User talk:Uuttyyrreess

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hello

Hi[edit]

Well, I live in Sofia, but was born in Gabrovo with my parents being from different parts of the country. I imagine you've left Bulgaria relatively young as you said you didn't speak Bulgarian well? --Laveol T 22:17, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

Please refrain from SHOUTING and RANTING in edit summaries, as you did here. Also please do not revert other people's work without explanation based on sources. For the issue at hand, do you have even one non-partisan (i.e. non-Macedonistic) source that challenges Alexander the Great's Greek origin? I seriously doubt it. Also, please be aware that there are hundreds of sources by accredited scholars who state he was Greek. NikoSilver 21:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Alexander as Greek[edit]

Dear friend, to don’t know history, is acceptable. In opposite, to don’t want to know history, is unacceptable. (For your own progress in life, I hope that you belong to the first.) Also: to deny the work of scholars it is your decision. However, what you - and of course any other, - should not deny is what this man (Alexander the Great) thought of himself. Here are only a few quotes by Alexander the Great on whether he thought or not himself as Greek, in the case you don't know history:


  • Holy shadows of the dead, I’m not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad, brothers, if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions.

Alexander addressing the dead Greeks of the Battle of Chaeronea, as quoted in Historiae Alexandri Magni by Quintus Curtius Rufus.


  • Youths of the Pellaians and of the Macedonians and of the Hellenic Amphictiony and of the Lakedaimonians and of the Corinthians… and of all the Hellenic peoples, join your fellow-soldiers and entrust yourselves to me, so that we can move against the barbarians and liberate ourselves from the Persian bondage, for as Greeks we should not be slaves to barbarians.

As quoted in the Historia Alexandri Magni of Pseudo-Kallisthenes, 1.15.1-4


  • Now you fear punishment and beg for your lives, so I will let you free, if not for any other reason so that you can see the difference between a Greek king and a barbarian tyrant, so do not expect to suffer any harm from me. A king does not kill messengers.

As quoted in the Historia Alexandri Magni of Pseudo-Kallisthenes, 1.37.9-13


  • Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you...

Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea, as quoted in Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian; translated as Anabasis of Alexander by P. A. Brunt, for the "Loeb Edition" Book II 14, 4


  • If it were not my purpose to combine barbarian things with things Hellenic, to traverse and civilize every continent, to search out the uttermost parts of land and sea, to push the bounds of Macedonia to the farthest Ocean, and to diseminate and shower the blessings of the Hellenic justice and peace over every nation, I should not be content to sit quietly in the luxury of idle power, but I should emulate the frugality of Diogenes. But as things are, forgive me Diogenes, that I imitate Herakles, and emulate Perseus, and follow in the footsteps of Dionysos, the divine author and progenitor of my family, and desire that victorius Hellenes should dance again in India and revive the memory of the Bacchic revels among the savage mountain tribes beyond the Kaukasos…

As quoted in "On the Fortune of Alexander" by Plutarch, 332 a-b


  • Our enemies are Medes and Persians, men who for centuries have lived soft and luxurious lives; we of Macedon for generations past have been trained in the hard school of danger and war. Above all, we are free men, and they are slaves. There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service — but how different is their cause from ours! They will be fighting for pay — and not much of at that; we, on the contrary, shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be in it. As for our foreign troops — Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians, Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers in Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia. And what, finally, of the two men in supreme command? You have Alexander, they — Darius!

Addressing his troops prior to the Battle of Issus, as quoted in Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian Book II, 7



Helladios 07:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC) (PS: If you are honest, you won’t blank this edit.)

Your edits to Alexander the Great[edit]

Hello. Please stop your disruptive editing on this article. If you seriously believe that there is controversy whether Alexander was Greek, please cite some scholarly sources that say so. Also, please refrain from inflammatory edit summaries such as this one. If you continue to edit in this manner, you may be blocked. --Akhilleus (talk) 20:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Once again, please stop editing in this manner. If you don't discuss your edits on the talk page, I will have to conclude that you're only here to cause trouble. --Akhilleus (talk) 21:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

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Steve Stavro[edit]

Hi Uuttyyrreess, thanks for finding some sources. However, only one of those directly supports the claim that he was an "ethnic Macedonian" and meets Wikipedia's guidelines for a reliable source, so I've taken the others out. The Globe and Mail article is a good source, but it's a shame that you're citing it from a mailing list--it reinforces my impression that your idea of research is doing a Google search and cherrypicking stuff from pro-Macedonian websites. If you stick to things like major newspapers, scholarly articles, books, etc., and find things that support your edits in high-quality sources, you will find that people are more receptive to your edits. --Akhilleus (talk) 04:07, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

That’s a great source Uuttyyrreess. Its good that finally the Wikipedia article is correct and the people that were disputing his ethnicity before no longer have any basis to dispute it. Alexander the great1 04:21, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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Macedonia[edit]

Alexandra the Great is macedonian btw.

Macedonian hip hop[edit]

Hi Uuttyyrreess, just want to know what you think about this article. I was hoping you could comment, User:Mr. Neutron keep reverting and moving the page to suit his nationalistic views on Macedonia even thought the article has nothing to do with the country rather than the Macedonian language. I reported him for violating the three-revert rule. Thanks. Frightner 19:20, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Changes[edit]

Regarding your changes to Music of Republic of Macedonia. First of all the article was originaly written not to cover the music of the ethnic group Macedonians but of the country in general. I do agree that the music of Ethnic Macedonians doesnt mean only the music in Republic of Macedonia, but also the music created by ethnic Macedonians living in the other Balkan countries (Greece, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia etc.) and worldwide (Australia, Canada and so on). Thats fine, BUT you do your country a bad favour by rejecting internationaly acclaimed artists such as Esma Redzepova for example, who is born in Skopje and belongs to Republic of Macedonia in a same way as Pece Atanasovski or Sarievski. The article must be changed from the current state. Ethnic Macedonians creating music outside of Republic of Macedonia can be mentioned too (like Kostas Novakis, a musician from Solun area who released CD's with ethnic macedonian music in Greece for instance).

ps. Also, you created a problem with broken links--Chajeshukarie 23:38, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Invitation to join wikiproject R. Macedonia[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_ROMacedonia Capricornis 04:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)