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Gourmand Cookbook Award

I came across this award reviewing a draft and it appears to be a notable award mentioned in several articles. Thought you might be interested in creating an article. See also es:Gourmand World Cookbook Awards. S0091 (talk) 16:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Hm, it has an entry in 8 language wikis. Definitely seems worth investigating, thanks! Valereee (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:56, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Re:Aftyn Behn

Dear Valereee,

I do not believe that the section regarding the "I hate this city" quote should be included on the Aftyn Behn page. I agree with you that it constitutes undue weight and that the majority of sources provided are of particular bias. I further believe that the section violates Wikipedia's policy of remaining neutral in current events, as the display of the quote is not of any particular notability to the section or the article in general, and was furthermore used out of context per the entire conversation where it was taken from (Spotify). I understand that Wikipedia is not the news and should not be wielded by editors of any side to pursue a particular message, and I believe that the quote in question violates that key principle of neutrality.

If I am wrong, please let me know. I only hope to improve Wikipedia and keep the neutrality in place.

-LS EvenOvenlord17 (talk) 23:05, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Hey, @EvenOvenlord17. Once something is covered in multiple RS that aren't politically biased in the other direction, IMO we should cover it. IMO it's only undue weight if only media that are biased in one direction are covering it. Valereee (talk) 00:52, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Nice work, thank you!

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:47, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

I like this radical empathy thing you got going on. It won't always work but it is (almost) always worth trying. Note that Simple has a one-strike rule for importing stuff. Polygnotus (talk) 12:25, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Oh, interesting, @Polygnotus, I didn't know that, but it makes perfect sense. I've often wondered what editors at Simple make of the fact we often recommend people who seem generally well-intentioned go there to prove they can learn. Do editors there find it disruptive or frustrating, I mean. It sounds like they've got a good system for handling it: basically, this is your last chance on an English-speaking wiki, so start listening NOW. Thanks for the brownie and the kind words. I know I'm often wasting my time, but every once in a while we do manage to get through. That editor seems to have a lot of energy for the project, and I do think if they'd just start listening to experienced editors, they could become a net positive. Valereee (talk) 12:47, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't want you to not try in the future just because it didn't have the desired effect this time, because the next may be different. And yes, Simple is sometimes the end of the line, and they don't want to have to deal with people importing external problems so they just block them and move on. But people who can behave can use Simple to prove it. They appear to speak a language other than English so there is another option. Polygnotus (talk) 12:55, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

My understanding was that the English Wikipedia community stopped asking people to go to Simple Wikipedia to prove themselves, based on feedback from the Simple English Wikipedia community asking us to stop doing that. isaacl (talk) 04:42, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

@Isaacl, another thing I didn't know. Can you point me at that? If that's what they prefer, I would totally get it. Valereee (talk) 12:43, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Sorry; I didn't take note of where this has been stated. I just remember it being said on English Wikipedia. isaacl (talk) 17:20, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

No worries, if you see it again and remember, ping me! :) Valereee (talk) 17:22, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 17:43, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Can i have more words?

since you are proposing two weeks ban, i like to say something

My previous 1RR violation was filed by BilledMammal who is now blocked. They have weaponized reporting systems against perceived ideological enemies See decision. Now the same thing is happening again. An editor - who is not involved in the dispute has targeted me, who has filed 2 cases against two different editors at the same time, who has made statements that shows they are targeting editors who they see as pro-Palestinian. QuicoleJR has said Nehushtani's conduct has also been subpar in this topic area See here

This 1RR violation is an accidental one because i thought my first revert was an edit. I asked in admin dashboard was waiting to get feedback before the OP filed case against me. Now i'm being penalized for it

I would ask the reviewing admin to take this context into account, as I believe the circumstances show a good-faith mistake rather than any intentional edit-warring. It is important that enforcement be applied proportionately and in a way that does not inadvertently encourage bad reporting behavior that escalates disputes rather than resolving them. Cinaroot (talk) 18:07, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Hey, Cinaroot. You said I also do not think my first edit qualifies as a revert. Instead of trying to argue an edit can't be counted as a reversion, just don't revert when someone reverts you. Go talk instead. Valereee (talk) 18:36, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

I never reverted anyone who reverted me. No one reverted my first or second edit in question. When it was brought to my attention that i violated 1RR, i argued i didnt think my first edit was a revert and asked at admin dashboard to get some neutral feedback. Nehushtani is retaliating against me because i participated in another AE they filed. Its all explained in my statement.

I know these are very complicated issues that requires lots of time to understand. I appreciate all admins working on it. But its equally important not to penalize editors because of misunderstanding. Cinaroot (talk) 18:50, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Cinaroot, I empathize. This area is a quagmire, and admins working here are up against it. Just don't revert. Talk instead. Valereee (talk) 18:56, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

I was responding to your statement just don't revert when someone reverts you This is inaccurate. Cinaroot (talk) 19:13, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Okay, @Cinaroot, happy to talk. Without going back to check my understanding, is it correct that you made an edit, someone reverted you, and you reverted them? Valereee (talk) 19:24, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Its not correct. I made an first edit (no one reverted it), then i made another unrelated revert (a picture change ) because i didn't think my first edit was seen as a revert. No one reverted second revert either. In my first edit - i removed 3 sentences which was added 12 days ago. I didn't know when it was added. The articles gets 100's of edits per week. Newslinger has classified my first edit was a partial revert after Nehushtani disclosed when it was added. This information was not shared with me prior.

In terms of unrelated third revert ( about 20 hours later )- Newslinger has clarified - I'm no longer obligated to self revert and Nehushtani has engaged in WP:TITFORTAT

I was very clear - i was willing to self revert in my talk. Yet Nehushtani filed a case against me after i participated in another AE case which Nehushtani filled, which they think i made statement against them. Quoting their words They wrote a statement against me on a complaint I had filed in AE against another user Cinaroot (talk) 20:27, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

I think your characterization of what Newslinger said is a bit selective, but even if it weren't, theirs is one opinion in an incredibly difficult place. Here's mine: This area is a quagmire, and you need to avoid reverting anyone anywhere anytime. Just talk instead. Talk FIRST. Definitely talk if you're reverting anyone. Definitely talk if someone reverts you. If anyone objects at any time to an edit you make, revert before they ask you to -- which you wouldn't even have to do if you'd just talked first. Just revert. Ask for page protection if to force discussion if necessary. There is no need for WP to be "correct" on any time schedule. Don't contribute to the problems there. Valereee (talk) 21:02, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

I agree that I should be more careful when removing or reverting edits. A informal or logged warning would suffice. My first 1RR violation occurred in August 2023, and I have had no issues of this kind since then. That block was narrowly limited to a single article. A proposed two-week ban now feels punitive. WP:BLOCKNOTPUNITIVE No need to consider first block in your judgement against me please.

Since the recent comments from Wikipedia’s founder encouraging editors to be bold— and encouraged to go against consensus to make changes to article they wanted, there has been increased disruption. Reverting is an essential tool in an article where there is so much conflicts and bad edits. Discussion is helpful, but it is not always effective or necessary. Cinaroot (talk) 22:22, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

@Cinaroot, are you saying you will not revert anyone who has reverted you in a CT but will instead immediately take it to talk? Valereee (talk) 23:06, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

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