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This archive is for messages from 8/2/2005 until 10/31/2005 for User:Vaoverland.

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August 2005[edit]

UPDATE: After a 6 week absence, I have finished moving (sorta) and now have an Internet connection again. My new home is near Williamsburg, VA, where I will continue to help care for my Mom (87) and another disabled family member. Our new home is wheelchair accessible and much newer smaller and more manageable than our old one. Thanks to all who helped with my various projects while I was off line. Its a lonely feeling, folks, and certainly shows how much WP and the Internet have become an important part of my life. Mark in Virginia Vaoverland 05:34, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Times-Dispatch article[edit]

Mark,

My name is Jeff Kelley and I'm a reporter at the TD working on a story about Wikipedia. I've been doing my best to track down someone in Richmond thats into Wikipedia for the story.

I've found a few all over the state, but still need someone here in town. I'd really (really, really, really) like to interview you and possibly get a picture as well.

Please give me a call when you get this. You can reach me at jkelley@timesdispatch.com or 804-649-6348.

If you need any sort of validity you can check out the TD site on Wikipedia for my name or read today's story in the business section about Cavalier.

Best

Jeff Kelley Times-Dispatch 649-6348

Times-Dispatch article[edit]

Mark,

My name is Jeff Kelley and I'm a reporter at the TD working on a story about Wikipedia. I've been doing my best to track down someone in Richmond thats into Wikipedia for the story.

I've found a few all over the state, but still need someone here in town. I'd really (really, really, really) like to interview you and possibly get a picture as well.

Please give me a call when you get this. You can reach me at jkelley@timesdispatch.com or 804-649-6348.

If you need any sort of validity you can check out the TD site on Wikipedia for my name or read today's story in the business section about Cavalier.

Best

Jeff Kelley Times-Dispatch 649-6348

A pair of users have taken the liberty of moving List of California State Routes to list of California state routes. Please

    weigh in on that article's talk page on the issue.--18:06, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Zephyr at Chicago Union Station.jpg[edit]

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Image:S VGN System Map Dec 1954.png[edit]

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writing history on Wikipedia[edit]

Hello Mark,

I’m an historian working at the Center for History and New Media at George Mason University (http://chnm.gmu.edu/). We are researching peer-produced, digital works of history, such as articles in Wikipedia, as part of a larger project on the history of the free and open source software movement. We’d like to talk to people about their experiences working on Wikipedia, and another Wikipedian suggested that I contact you. Would you be willing to talk with us about your involvement with articles on the Civil War, either by phone, a/v chat, IM, or email? This could be as lengthy or brief a conversation as you wish.

Thanks for your consideration.

Olivia

oryan at gmu dot edu

William Thomas Mahone[edit]

You may want to contact the person who compiled that list to ask what was the source of his information on this middle name. According to that page, his email address is lestory at comcast dot net. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-08-27 22:54

VMI peer review[edit]

You've worked on the VMI article. I have posted the article Virginia Military Institute at Wikipedia:Peer review/Virginia Military Institute/archive1 and would appreciate your comments. Rillian 14:24, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

hello Mark[edit]

Yesterday I received my invitation to the Po'pay statue dedication in Washington DC, on September 22. I am now trying to figure out how to do the trip, and perhaps visit Richmond in the process. I am also trying to decide whether to spring for a book, "Richmond's Monument Avenue" (ISBN:0807826073) by Driggs, Sarah Shields; Wilson, Richard Guy; Winthrop, Robert and decided that you might have good insights into all these areas. Oh yes, as far as renaming Monument Avenue, "Traveller Avenue" I think that I learned that the Frenchman who did the Lee statue in Richmond refused to use Traveller as a model for the horse, thinking him to be not noble enough, or something, and opted for some Arabian instead. Which in this day and age appears a lot LESS patriotic. Life is supposed to be fun. Carptrash 18:39, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Well I can see that riding a rhinosaurus into battle could gain one all sorts of psychological advantages. Still . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .............. ? Carptrash 20:19, 7 September 2005 (UTC)


DYK[edit]

Two in 1 week!! Vaoverland 05:32, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

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Barnstar[edit]

Please accept this Barnstar of Diligence for tireless work on Wikipedia.

Barnstar of Diligence.png

Take care, Molotov (talk) California state flag.png 20:21, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!! Vaoverland 21:01, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Buckingham Branch Railroad[edit]

Good to see you again! I took a quick breeze though the article, adding the templates and fixing up some grammar and links. I found the logo and added that too. Looks good so far, and getting an edit conflict earlier today shows me it's still getting some work. B-) slambo 18:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Is there a reason Image:Bbrr404-copy.jpg (full size), which clearly says Michael Derrick, is labeled as by Ken Moss? --SPUI (talk) 22:17, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

As usual, SPUI has the facts correct. Oops. My bad, the youngun's would say. Image Replaced by Vaoverland 22:49, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

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10 Great Trees[edit]

Hi there! I enjoyed reading your article on the Emancipation Oak. I was curious about the 10 Greatest Trees that you referenced. Perhaps this should be its own article? Where did you find this information and what are the other trees? Thanks!

Sources: [1]

DYK[edit]

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New Article Help?[edit]

Hi, I'm User:Ascan, and I grew up in SE Virginia (mostly VB). I was a Navy brat and I'm currently active duty, and I was wondering if you could help me start an article on the "Spokane Trophy"[2], as I am a very new Wikipedian. I have attempted to contact the Navy League of Spokane to request permission to use their photos and information, however my e-mail to the webmaster was returned stating "no such user". Would you be willing to help me start the article or at least guide me to someone who you think would be more interested? I am appreciate any help you could give me.

User:Ascan

Dear User: Ascan: First, I suggest that it would be good to go to your user page, and tell evryone a little bit about yourself, as you did above. This will help other users in identifying with you and encourage them to help you also. Tip: enter four tilde signs, (to the left of the 1 on my keyboard in the Caps positon, and your messages will automatically be signed and dated.) I am now typing four tildes (no spaces) and this is what it will sign: Vaoverland 10:03, 21 September 2005 (UTC)


OK, Let's give writing a new article on Spokane Trophy a try. The advice which follows is MY way of researching to come up with content, which may or may not be as much in compliance with Wikipedia Style guidelines as you will choose to be (no one is perfect, but we strive to comply).

1. Look at the article I collaborated with User:Slambo on called Autorack. Then look at the same article, which was specially marked up with tons of writing tips by User:Niteowlneils. The Annotated Article for Autorack can be found at Wikipedia:Annotated article. This is a very valuable way to see how to write an article in an attractive style and keep track of the information, etc.

2. I suggest you join Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships. On Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships, you should let them know that you are writing your first article on Spokane Trophy. The members will be knowledgeable about similar topics and will probably be glad to help you with good ship-related article.

OK, on to your new Spokane Trophy article.

3. First, you asked how I do it, I like to work on content (ie text first), and then seek images after story is more or less in first draft form.

Rather than ask for permission to copy stuff from a single source, we want to use multiple sources for Wikipedia articles, and then compile the factual information into an original article. A single source would probably require the kind of permission you requested (and didn't get). Therefore, in addition to learning what I can from the link you provided, the next thing I would do is determine some more information about the subject. To do that, I will do a Google search, a Yahoo search, and sometimes more searches (ie MSN, Altavista, Ask Jeeves, Lycos, etc.) depending upon the amount of hits and quality of web sites I can find. NOTE: I have now checked as described and there are multiple sites with the lost of text information you can use to create your content. ::NOTE: I found good data on Google and Yahoo searches on the words: Spokane Trophy! Follow up on multiple hits,a nd consider what seem to be the more credible sources.

4. By using multiple sources, you do not need their permission to obtain facts which you will use, so long as you are not copying en masse and verbatim (exactly worded) their text. You should keep track of where the items of specific information comes from, so you can cite your sources. However, unless you are using a single source to bets make a point, I find listing the sources at end of article is usually sufficient. If quoting an entire sentence or two, or if you feel that the source is particularly important, then a footnote for the source right after the information is presented can be done by putting the URL in single brackets.

For instance (I am making this up), since the following is obviously an opinion for which we would want to know the source. If the content in your article made the statement which follows: TEXT: According to the local residents, the Spokane Trophy is more greatly valued by people from the south side of Spokane than anywhere else. END TEXT, Then I would immediately attribute that statement (again a fictitious source) by pasting the URL of the source in single brackets, which would end up like this: [3]

5. Remember that your personal opinion is not a source, although you may find sources with which you agree,a nd you can certainly present the independently sources information you agree with.

6. Only after doing the text content, would I consider images. That gets trickier, and you will also need to follow WP guidelines there, or let other users help spice up your story with images, if that is not your strong point. In this instance, US Navy images are generally public domain for WP purposes, and that may be a good source for you, so your task may be a bit easier on this article than some for other subjects. Personally, I have found it too hard to get permission for images not already in public domain or otherwise OK for use in WP without specifically getting permission, so if I can't find something it is OK to use without asking, I'd let someone else worry about images. If you write your initial article well with enough interesting content, other contributors will read it,a nd begin enhancing it with content and often pictures.

7. I use ieSpell (a free program) to help avoid putting content out with bad spelling, although others will surely come behind you and take a whack at poor grammar, spelling, etc., assuming your article is of interest. I've found that almost anything I write an article on for WP has someone else interested in it. That's part of the fun, because then i learn even more as I watch changes.

8. Add internal links for words in your content which have Wikipedia articles. This will help other writers find your article as well and add to the collaborative effort to refine your article.

9. As you probably know, click on the red link Spokane Trophy and begin the article, saving it with the edit summary "New Article" in the box at the bottom. Your first effort may not be outstanding, but others will help, and you'll get better as you go.

I now have some info on your subject, so one you start the article, I will try be among those to help spruce it up. If you get your feelings hurt easily, WP may not be for you, as others will surely edit your work and may chose to say somethings differently. However, I have found that most changes to articles I begin have been improvements, and what is best for the quality of Wikipedia is more important than my ego or personal preferences. Occasionally, I need to remind myself of that, and maybe you will too.

So, tell us about it, and Good luck!

Yours in Historic Triangle of Virginia, Mark. Vaoverland 10:03, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Un-sourced images[edit]

You have some images in the category Category:Images with unknown source. Images in this category can and are being deleted as we speak. You should provide sources for your images in there, if you still want Wikipedia to be able to use them. You can see the list of images you've uploaded here. JesseW, the juggling janitor 09:33, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

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To split or merge Cape Henry?[edit]

See my suggestion to merge current Cape Henry related articles at Talk:Cape Henry Memorial. — Eoghanacht talk 20:58, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

After second thought, I am generally in agreement with the multiple arcticles (I even entered a stub for First Landing State Park) -- except for Cape Henry Memorial which I think would be better to merge with and redirect to Colonial National Historical Park -- but I am not going to lose any sleep over it. By the way, while looking up info on the memorial, the NPS Website states that the lighthouse is NOT part of the Memorial nor Colonial NHP, although APVA administers the National Park "Passport" stamp for the memorial. I am going to make appropriate changes to the texts of those sites (including removing the lighthouse image from the memorial), but after today, I will probably move onto other interests. Cheers! — Eoghanacht talk 13:11, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

WP collaboration are both fun and productive? And informative. I never knew where "Berkley" came from. Is the music school in Back Bay Boston named after him too? Check out my totally worthless trivia at talk:Brices Cross Roads National Battlefield Site. By the way, you may want to change Green Spring to a disambig page. — Eoghanacht talk 21:10, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Back from DC & VA[edit]

Hi Mark: Well I just got home from a quite long roadtrip that included a visit to Richmond and Monument Avenue. I need to get all my pictures developed and sorted out, which might take some time, but I hope to be posting so Lees and Jacksons and Davises in the near future. life is good, Carptrash 17:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

PS -the Historic Triangle article desperately needs [opinion] a map.

William and Mary rankings, etc.[edit]

Hi Vaoverland,

Thank you for taking the time to clean up the W&M website. It is a little wordy, but the underlying accuracy is intact.

The #6 ranking you were curious about is indeed accurate (and has been for the last few years) as is the part about W&M being named the "hottest small public university" -- here are the verifying links.

US NEWS http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/natudoc_pub_brief.php

NEWSWEEK http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8939242/page/2/

Good luck.

PS -- I am a history buff and am not biased about W&M, it's pre-Revolutionary history is unique and very important in the history of university education in the US.

What I was challenging was the statements, In 2006, ... ranked (etc.). Since 2006 isn't even here yet, the statemenents seemed suspect. I was able to determine that both claims were regarding the 2005-2006 school year, so I adjusted the wording to reflect that. Perhaps in the collegiate community, a school year is referred to by only the ending year, much as Class of '06. Anyway, I think the facts themselves give W&M lots of bragging rights, and I hopesomeone will tone down the POV rhetoric such as "much-revered", etc., which tends to detract from the credibility of the article. Thanks. Vaoverland 20:00, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

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I object to separate "Adult ADD" article[edit]

I am an adult diagnosed with ADHD, who coaches adult ADHDers, is attempting to form an adult ADHD support group in my area, and participates actively in face-to-face and online ADHD groups.

I think it is a mistake to present "Adult ADD" as a separate entry. "ADD" is an obsolete term, that warrants no treatment different from other obsolete terms.

"Adult ADD" corresponds to no external official category and little external reality. ADHD is an officially recognized disorder that can occur in children and adults. The battles about whether adults can have ADHD (or its DSM predecessors, ADD and MBD) and the diagnostic criteria, though certainly worth mentioning, are officially over, though they may recur for DSM-V.

The many substantive controversies concerning ADHD, including those about whether ADHD is a single disorder, how much of it is genetic, how it should be diagnosed, whether it is over- or under-diagnosed or over- or under-medicated generally or in specific populations (including adults), which non-medication therapies are effective, which medications are effective, whether ADHD is a real disorder, and even whether ADHD might not be a good thing [Hartmann and others], need to be located in a single article that is located under a term that is generally accepted, where Wikipedia users would most likely expect to find it. ADHD is that term.

I would be happy to work with you to try to improve the "ADHD" article by merging "Adult ADD" into it.

dcduring@gmail.com

I do not necessarily disagree with your points, but, beside the size issue in the main ADHD article, another reason the adult article was started was that adult issues where frequently deleted or minimized in the overwhelming interest in ADHD in children. I have heard unconfirmed reports that ADHD in adults will be more specifically addressed in the next Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. I recently read in the news that adults who are taking meds for the condition have increased by 400% in past ten years. The children, children, children and hyperactivity emphasis ADHD gets publicly and in WP detracts from the adult aspect, which is much less well-known.
I personally feel the separate article increases public awareness and that of persons who may be undiagnosed and suffering. A lot of us have met that last criteria.
If you cannot live with the current separate article, what about a compromise? Perhaps we can revamp the adult article, removing a lot of the duplicate material and condense it into a much shorter one, referring readers to main article ADHD? Keep the external links which are to adult-related sites. And join the edit wars on the ADHD article on behalf of adults.
Also, I urge you to look into the Yahoo group for adults and get on the email list for messages. It is growing and there may be additional support for your efforts to be found there. The link is: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/aadd/
One final thought. Web search engines such as Google and Yahoo search are now getting lots of hits on the current adult article, which increases public awareness. Merging the article will largely destroy this value we have accomplished.
I would like to see input from other editors before we take such a drastic measure as a merge.


Vaoverland 21:31, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

West Virginia, Virginia, and History[edit]

I tired to use some logic breaking out the elements. It needs paired down a little more as well.

Highways[edit]

Since you primarily work on VA. You might be interested in this Virginia State Highways. I created that after I created the WV version based on the US Highway Template. When working on some of the WV highways that VA had shared numbers with it seem logical. Like VA 259 and WV 259, they are really the same highway. I need to create a MD Highway template.

A Noob Doesn't like the Templates[edit]

He destroyed hours of work on the WV Template and the highways. Converted everything to a list that was harder to Navigate. Wikipedia:Templates for deletion WV is near the top, and VA is near the bottom. Not sure what these guys are thinking the Template is much easier to navigate. Could use some voting in favor of keeping it. Thanks

User:Caponer Can also be of help on the history entries. Contact him as well. --71Demon 03:04, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

VA Highways[edit]

I was working the Template to make it better. I had put in the existing entries, tighed in the connectors that shared numbers with WV. Then I was going to pair it down. I ended up off the WV and VA road stuff into some French and Indian War Forts and just hadn't gotten back to it. When I did I found all this stuff going on.

US-hist-stub[edit]

I posted the idea on the Wiki-stub section. Some sub categories might be a good idea.

  • US-precolonial-hist-stub
  • US-colonial-hist-stub
    • US-UK-colonial-hist-stub for the eastern US
    • US-FR-colonial-hist-stub for the Louisana purchase area
    • US-ES-colonial-hist-stub for the southwest/FL

I have been working on some French and Indian War British Forts in WV, such as Fort Ohio. They are relavent to UK and US history. We are not supposed to us two stubs, but to be accurate you need to, a US-UK-colonial-hist-stub would solve that problem, and these suggested stubs will define the era that the historical place or event belongs in. It will give it more context.

So much Wiki, so little time --71Demon 01:52, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk Box[edit]

I was looking at yours. Yes I would like one thanks. I also should have read, because I put an add on to the previous post on this page about the Template. If you can please read it. Thanks --71Demon 03:07, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories for deletion[edit]

    • Wikipedia:Categories for deletion I added the list for deletion since the table is easier to navigate. This really shows the problem of an open system. That is what is compeating against the template. The template shows up on each highway entry, the list makes them goto another page to continue. No sure why they don't understand few steps are better. --71Demon 14:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)


DYK[edit]

Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article James Blair (clergyman), which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

great!

James Blair[edit]

Hi. Congratulations on the DYK-featuring of James Blair (clergyman); it is certainly deserved. However, I have come across a number of copyright problems with the article, as noted on its talk page; and they seem to date back to your original version. I hope to fix the problems soon. You probably have that page on your watchlist; but in case you don't, I'm just dropping by to alert you to the situation. Doops | talk 04:22, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Highways[edit]

VA 895 was the interesting one in your list. I created this today Interstate Highways in West Virginia which I based off the CA one that I made when I split then Interstates and the US Highways out of the CA State Highways. I started modifing List of U.S. Highways in West Virginia to a similar look, but some sheilds are missing and I have to make them. I also put all the states info into this one Interstate 268(Proposed) I have a meeting with WVDOH coming up and will see if they are any further along. I also had to repair Corridor H (Appalachian Development Highway System), because a guy deleted the History because it came from the state, which is Public Domain. I wish some of these guys would use there heads once and a while. --71Demon 23:18, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

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No problem, your articles are always well done. --nixie 00:54, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Henry Hobson Richardson[edit]

Hello Mark: An odd thing seems to have just happened at the Henry Hobson Richardson article. The word GAY has appeared and it seems to have replaced the entire "References" section. I thought that your were someone who might know what to do and, . . . . . Richardson was not from VA, but he was a Southerner. Now back to the List of old buildings in Canada, or something Carptrash 03:38, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

By the time I got back to anything some nice person named EurekaLott had already reverted the article. Life is good. Carptrash 03:48, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

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VA Template[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion#Template:VA_Highways

I think we can make it work, we just need to work it with logic. Can we get some undelete support? Let's at least try to make it useful. --71Demon 23:47, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Skyline Drive image.[edit]

It's back. Thanks for letting me know. I probably forgot to give it a tag. -- Mwanner | Talk 12:42, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

FFV[edit]

Mark, Thanks for the heads up. I think I fixed what you were talking about. I think the trick was that you were using the pipe character (|) to try to create subcategories but that's not how to make subcategories. If you want Category:First Families of Virginia to be a subcategory of of Category:Virginia history you have to create both categories and then put the category label (Category:Virginia history) on the subcategory that you want to be a subcategory (Category:First Families of Virginia) ) ditto for the category DAR. Did this make sense? MPS 22:27, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

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Talk[edit]

Hi, I'd like to take you up on the talk box offer. I think you should consider working some of your articles up to featured status, James Blair from last week could probably make it through with an expanded lead section and some expansion of the text - featured articles don't need to be huge- just comprehensive. Once you get the hang of anticipating what people expect from a FA it can be pretty rewarding.--nixie 01:55, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Norwegian Lady[edit]

yikes - this is a tough one - to start out with. I have not found the sculptor during my first go-'round but all is not lost, yet. While driving through Tennessee two weeks ago or so I stoped at so book store in some now forgotten town and picked up a book on Scandinavian History that was mostly illustrated by art. Now i can't find it. As an art historian 1962 is a bit late for me, but I enjoy the thrill of the chase, so off I go. 72.16.51.242 15:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

whooops - somehow I got logged off? 72.16.51.242 15:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Southside (Richmond, Virginia)[edit]

Mark, My long awaited Southside (Richmond, Virginia) stub article is now ready. Since you are a RVA expert I think you could contribute a lot to this if you have time. Please help! 24.125.34.26 17:58, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Southside (Richmond, Virginia)[edit]

Mark, My long awaited Southside (Richmond, Virginia) stub article is now ready. Since you are a RVA expert I think you could contribute a lot to this if you have time. Please help! 24.125.34.26 17:59, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Southside (Richmond, Virginia)[edit]

Mark, My long awaited Southside (Richmond, Virginia) stub article is now ready. Since you are a RVA expert I think you could contribute a lot to this if you have time. Please help! 24.125.34.26 18:05, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

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Norwegian Lady Statues[edit]

It exciting that you heard back from the expert. On images, works of local and most state government employees in the US are not automatically in the public domain. You might get lucky on the Wikimedia commons, thats where I found a picture for your Govenors Palace article, or you could try flickr- anthing there with a creative commons licence that allows commerical use is fine for use on Wikipedia. Or if you can find an old photo, taken before 1923 (I think) it is probably in the public domain. Good luck with the search.--nixie 02:15, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations on the connection with author Foss. We'd have a better chance with sculptor Bast if he had not died in 1974. I did begin an article on him, just to get the red out. I found an okay picture of the Norwegian statue and will try and get the rights to it. Carptrash 04:22, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello Mark: Some progress. I emailed Norway and got back a very nice, "the guy you need to talk to is ......" , so i email him and am waiting for a reply.
I also just learned that Kodak Kodacrome is no longer developed except at two places in the universe. They have to to be sent there, so my pictures fron Richmond are mostly on hold. However I did get a few that should appear at Randolph Rogers and Thomas Crawford shortly. Life is good, Einar 05:52, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Hal Jespersen[edit]

A couple of things. First, I just saw your user-created image (Image:Jackson Valley Campaign Part1.jpg) and wanted to compliment you. What a nice piece of work~ Should you find the time, we could use a much simpler one in the Historic Triangle article, showing Jamestown, Williamsburg, and Yorktown, and the Colonial Parkway which links them. I also wanted you to know that we were able to determine from multiple sources that William Mahone's middle name was Thomas. He apparently, chose to not use it, and those writing of him have respected that. However son, his William T. Mahone Jr. used the middle initial and name, and it is fairly well documented through Mahone family sources. I completed my relocation this summer to a rural portion of James City County near Williamsburg. Although we will be unpacking for years, the slightly milder climate and the much more bucolic surroundings are a welcome improvement from our longtime home in busy Richmond. Lastly, if you like the "Talk Box" on my user and talk pages, I know how to make one quickly for you. It really helps when people leave messages. Try it, you'll like it. Just let me know.
       Mark in Historic Triangle Vaoverland 02:00, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't understand your request, though: I see no map in that article, so I can't consider improving it. If you have one you can point me to or fax me (send me a direct email to find the #; my address is at the top of my User page), I'll take a look.

I assume you'll update Mahone's page. You're quite a detective. And thanks for the Talk Box tip. I copied it from your site. Hal Jespersen 14:22, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

DYK[edit]

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Historic Triangle map[edit]

I actually draw the maps by hand, sometimes with the aid of tracings from history books. Are you asking for a map that shows modern roads and things like Navy yards or just the terrain and those cities? (The latter is relatively simple if something like http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/mgg/topo/state2.pl?region=va.jpg is used as a base.) I'd like to accommodate you, but this may be a lot more work than you think. I've considered doing a Peninsula map, but for 1862. Hal Jespersen 14:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

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Re: Brakeman[edit]

I think it's just a case of nobody getting around to writing it. Railroad engineer was created only this past Tuesday. slambo 13:13, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Road stubs[edit]

All of the following made their way to WP:SFD:

--Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:57, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Re: Robert Meeropol[edit]

Constructive criticism always appreciated! In this case it seems as if an anon editor already took care of it; I may touch it up a little more. Best, --Dvyost 05:02, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

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Busette[edit]

Given that it was made by a company for advertising, it is likely copyrighted. Thus any use of it will be fair use. That shouldn't be a problem, as it's clearly fair use when talking about the Busette. --SPUI (talk) 22:06, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue the details - in fact I don't know what happens to intellectual "property" on liquidation - but your use of {{PD-self}} is just incorrect, as it implies that you made the image. Any copyright would lie with the company that made the ad. --SPUI (talk) 23:31, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Should be fine just keeping it as {{fairuse}}. Or maybe {{Non-free fair use in|Busette}}? --SPUI (talk) 23:48, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Trademark of the buses of the Wiki Wiki shuttle line[edit]

Hi, Vaoverland.

Do you know the trademark or the name of the manufacturer of the shuttle buses of the Wiki Wiki shuttle line used between terminals of Honolulu International Airport?

The bus line is operated by Airport Group International, and the buses are owned by the State of Hawaii. Photos are available here:

2004-12-29T22:45Z 03:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

They look familar to me. I will refer to some other bus enthusiats and try to get back with a definitive answers asap. Mark Vaoverland 12:26, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I thought so as well, and another bus enthusiast has confirmed. It is a Chance (model RT-52). The RT-52 was an early product. Chance Coach Inc., was later manufacturer of the American Heritage Streetcar trolley-replica bus and the low floor OPUS small and mid-size transit bus. Changed its name to Optima Bus Corp. The headquarters are in Wichita, Kansas. link: http://www.optimabus.com/ Hope this helps. Mark. Vaoverland 13:36, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

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James River Plantations "Template"[edit]

There aren't that many James River Plantations, so I woulds recommend a template Template:James River Plantations using the following code


Modernism
Premodernity | Modernism | Postmodernism

Feel free to edit the template however you want. Let me know if you still want a category.

. That would be cool if you hooked me up with a talk button. MPS 20:42, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the vote[edit]

Thanks for your vote on my RfA. If the vote succeeds, I will do my best to be a considerate and cool-headed admin. Best, --Alabamaboy 12:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

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Categories[edit]

Mark: Categories are really easy to make. You just add it to the page and then it activates itself when you first visit it. Category:test category MPS 14:06, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

requested categories[edit]

You requested these categoryes to hbe made. Juest click on each one and type something like This category lists articles relating to the independent city of ______, Virginia

Once you put in content and 'submit' it will add it as a real category and not be red linked anymore. MPS 19:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Trans in RVA[edit]

Looks good! I think the vote will be keep. If I had anything to add, it would be maps of streets and rail, a GRTC logo, words about the chesterfield link bus, and maybe somehting about bicycle trails (isn't there some movement to put bike lanes in or something?). Great job! MPS 21:17, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

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