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File:Phoneme-allophone-determination-chart.svg[edit]

I think this diagram is adequate for its intended uses (though obviously not based on the latest developments in optimality theory or whatever). Your main objection to it would appear to be terminological quibbling. AnonMoos (talk) 19:41, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't think it's "quibbling" to note that in a diagram which purports to show how to identify allophones, one out of the four end cases is wrongly marked as to whether it represents allophones or not. Given that the diagram as a whole is hopelessly oversimplified, I think it better simply to remove it. But if you insist, we can put it back and try to explain everything away in the caption, pending someone's creating a better diagram. W. P. Uzer (talk) 21:29, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
That's nice -- it's obviously based on classical phonemics (not the latest theories), and no one has ever claimed otherwise. Classical phonemics still has a lot of relevance to issues such as setting up practical orthographies of formerly-unwritten languages. I suppose I could change "allophones" to "contextual allophones" at bottom left (if there was room for an additional word in the caption), but I don't see a strict necessity for this, and your exclusive focus on terminological issues, and lack of any constructive useful suggestions, still strikes me as basically quibbling... AnonMoos (talk) 07:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Do you think that sounds that are in free variation are not allophones? Maybe that's one possible view, but it seems to contradict what the article says. W. P. Uzer (talk) 08:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Prop-word[edit]

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Jr. comma RfC[edit]

You're invited to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#RfC:_Guidance_on_commas_before_Jr._and_Sr. Dohn joe (talk) 01:55, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Bully article[edit]

I won't edit the article anymore, given the way you have been treating me, (basically you're being a bully) but you should take a look at this article on Wikipedia. It states guidelines to editing Wikipedia and also states that nobody owns an article, which is what you are acting like.

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Table of Japanese Kanji radicals listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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RfC: Guidance on commas after Jr. and Sr.[edit]

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Template:Ruby-zh-p[edit]

Ruby text is currently .literally. unreadable in Firefox, so some sort of further change needs to be made. I noticed that you reverted the previous simplifying edits made to the template, restoring many explicit style instructions, even to the extent of specifying particular Windows fonts. Could you describe the problems you had viewing Ruby text with the simplified version of the template? 0x69494411 08:47, 29 May 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sixtyninefourtyninefourtyfoureleven (talkcontribs)

Chinese Grammar Article[edit]

Locative Phrases[edit]

Locative Phrases is currently a subtopic of the "Adverbs and Adverbials" section of the Chinese Grammar article. From the language in the body text, it seems that this is likely a typographical error, and that 'Locative Phrases' should be a section in it's own right, but perhaps there is some logic to the arrangement that I don't understand. For that reason, I'm kicking it over to you rather than making the edit. 0x69494411 11:04, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't have any strong preference, but it seems to me that such locative phrases (at least from a Western perspective) would be regarded as a type of adverbial phrase (corresponding to adverbs of location). Also their position in the Chinese sentence is as described in the main "Adverbs" section. W. P. Uzer (talk) 11:49, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Unexplained deletion in English phonology[edit]

I noticed this recent edit, you made at English phonology that included the deletion of a note that seemed accurate to me. Was that an oversight or is there another issue? — Ƶ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 15:19, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

You mean the note about /aɪ/ being raised before voiceless consonants? I didn't so much delete it, as move it and expand on it, according to what Wells says on the matter. I don't have the other source that was given, but I don't believe (I may be wrong) that this is any more than a localized phenomenon (Canada and a few places in the US). W. P. Uzer (talk) 15:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
I mean the note about /æ/. If you'd like to add more nuance to it, I don't have a problem. Do you mean you took the claim out without checking the source because you doubt the claim? — Ƶ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 04:48, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not seeing the note you mean. In the edit you linked to, I added a note about /æ/. Did you mean to link to a different edit? W. P. Uzer (talk) 06:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
My days traveling have confused my perceptions. I saw a deletion where there was an addition. My apologies for the mistake. — Ƶ§œš¹ [lɛts b̥iː pʰəˈlaɪˀt] 03:42, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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English verbs Edit[edit]

Why do you keep changing my edits, they are for grammatical correctness! Wizymon (talk) 23:11, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

It was the same edit, twice, and I explained in the edit summary the first time. W. P. Uzer (talk) 07:05, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

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Space (disambiguation)[edit]

Hello W. P. Uzer, you reverted my alphabetical sorting in above. Please can you define, who and when roughly in order of significance determined in every individual case per article and abbreviation? I think, the best system is the alphabetical and therefore finding faster, because each one has an alternative viewpoint...Thanks and regards -- Sweepy (talk) 08:56, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I definitely disagree - common sense and experience tell us that certain meanings of ambiguous terms are far more common, and thus likely to be being sought, than others. It helps readers to list these first. Also, alphabetical listing isn't particularly helpful anyway, since a reader very likely won't know the precise term under which their sought meaning is going to be listed. W. P. Uzer (talk) 09:07, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
O.k., but one reader is more interested in sport, the other in botanic, the next in biologie and so on. Everybody from them prefers there his word at top, or not? Therefore I mean, the better/best way is my sorting. You can find faster by alphabetical sorting as the current writing and your justification or meaning. Whatever I try my portrayed as carefully as possible. The few corrections or revertings I'm accepting. But the most are positiv sighted. Thanks for your above information and regards. -- Sweepy (talk) 10:08, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes I don't mind alphabetical sorting in the majority of cases (although it doesn't really help very much, since as I said, readers won't know the precise character string to look for in the alphabetical list), but in some cases there are certain meanings that are just obviously more important to readers in general, and it seems rather silly to mix these in with a lot of more specialized or marginal meanings, making them harder to find and identify. W. P. Uzer (talk) 10:49, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm glad to read your answer, it is so, that my almost sortings ar right, because a great many last dates are from 2014 and years older. Therefore I'm posting up alphabeticly. The most are very short abbreviations. Now an example, you can look for the old listing and my correction. Here is my sorting real the best solution, or? Therefore, as above written, the most of all my sortings are o.k. and the rest can be deleted, if anybody has a different opinion. I hope, we two agree. Sorry, but I'm stressed out, when someone see here an edit warring! Please look at User talk:Sweepy. Thanks and all the best for you furthermore for the benefit of en-WP. The same is my enorm engagement (see my Preverences) in this short time.

I'm happy to spend a lot of time for your WP, but stressless, because my working is costless. Regards -- 217.224.223.162 (talk) 21:05, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

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Th-alveolarization[edit]

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Jimmy Savile[edit]

Actually, WP:MOSBIO does really say. "It is not always necessary to spell out why the article title and lead paragraph give a different name." Neither does it mandate the ridiculous and amateurish insertion of nicknames within full names; it quite clearly shows that if necessary they should be inserted after the dates. Unfortunately you are right that it's becoming very common. That doesn't make it right or necessary. We are supposed to be writing Wikipedia for people with sense, not complete idiots who can't work out why someone whose name is James might be called Jimmy in the article title (or even more blatantly obvious nicknames, like John "Johnny" Smith or Charles "Charlie" Jones, well duh!). Frankly, I and other editors who want Wikipedia to be a proper encyclopaedia are tired of pointing this out and tired of having our attempts to get rid of this creeping infantilisation reverted. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:25, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

"Not always necessary" does not mean "never do it". I don't really have a strong opinion about this, though it is possible that some people will be reading the article text without paying particular attention to the article title, so will not realize that the name given at the start is not the name by which the person is generally called. In any case, continuously spewing insults in the direction of readers who don't happen to have a particular piece of knowledge, or to editors who take a slightly different view of a matter than you do, is not really helpful to the cooperative process. W. P. Uzer (talk) 14:46, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I wasn't aware I was insulting anyone. I was in fact attempting to stop us insulting readers' intelligence. We are an encyclopaedia and that's how we should write. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:03, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

"Common folk of Hertfordshire"[edit]

C'mon, the whole phrase is obviously someone out for a laugh (even if it's been there more than a year)... Maybe it should be removed entirely? 86.170.7.13 (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2016 (UTC)