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SPEEDY DELETION; I expected the speedy deletion, but it served it's purpose, as I was able to connect three important moments in boxing history , and save the story. the major problem with Wikipedia is folks are able to use the content of stories without any recognition of the real author. that has been done, time and time again, W. zelley (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2013 (UTC) There are many stubs that have not been deleted which should be as they do not serve any real purpose. But, flexible rules will always create unfairness for some and a free pass for others. W. zelley (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Brian Zelley[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Brian Zelley requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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It appears that you have deleted the story without addressing any of the issues raised, now if that piece is deleted, then all those other boxing stub pieces should also get deleted. Some of them have been sitting has stubs for years. So when will they be deleted, or are there flexible rules.W. zelley (talk)

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Proposed deletion of Brian W. Zelley[edit]

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The article Brian W. Zelley has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Cindy(talk) 05:14, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Brian W. Zelley[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Brian W. Zelley requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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It seems when a person adds an article, before they have a chance to finish it, these deletion messages are appearing.W. zelley (talk) 08:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Brian W. Zelley has been reverted.
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Nomination of Brian W. Zelley for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Brian W. Zelley is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian W. Zelley until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Cindy(talk) 07:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

beyond the jungle of the deletion story[edit]

this whole issue of deletion, deletion discussion and the like, did not result in the story vanishing. However, it does appear that the deletion crew did a quick rush to delete on the basis of certain one-sided arguments that are not based on sound logic or proper investigation. To claim certain facts cannot be verified with reliable sources is not true.

For instance, there are three key issues that were being developed: 1. One: The 1984 Canadian junior nationals and Olympic box-off bouts which finalized the 1984 Canadian olympic team which resulted in three medals and a historical moment. ALL THESE THINGS CAN BE VERIFIED BY A MULTITUDE OF RELIABLE SOURCES. 2. The events leading up to the 1994 Victoria Commonwealth Games boxing competition where numerous medals were won by Canadian boxers.

  • once again there are many reliable sources including the book by sport editor

and journalist Cleve Dheensaw of the "Times-Colonist" called the "ISLAND OF CHAMPIONS" 3. The BRITISH COLUMBIA AMATEUR BOXING HALL OF FAME

  • There are many sources, but four reliable sources would be

newspaper in Comox, BC in 2011, Prince George in 2012, Quesnel in 2013 and Gibson in 2013.

If these three areas combined in one important story is not good enough for Wikipedia, that is okay, But some of the details are scattered about in Wikipedia articles in various locations. so, why is the scattered information not deleted when the combined data is??? that should make for some fancy dancing in the good old Wikipedia "deletion dance". W. zelley (talk) 00:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)