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Translation from English to Esperanto[edit]

Formerly Help with translation
Formerly Help for translate

Hello. Can you help me translate 2 paragraphs from English to Esperanto? Xaris333 (talk) 00:44, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Please post the English version on a subpage of your userpage, and provide on this page a link to that subpage. If translating it is within my abilities and interests, I will post the Esperanto version below the English version.
Wavelength (talk) 00:55, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. eo:Uzanto:Xaris333/Salamina Xaris333 (talk) 01:00, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
I have posted my translation there. I am revising the heading of this section from Help for translate to Help with translation, in harmony with WP:TPOC, point 11 (Section headings). The new heading is in corrected English.
Wavelength (talk) 02:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
I have revised my translation. Also, I am revising the heading of this section again, this time from Help with translation to Translation from English to Esperanto. This new heading is clearer and more informative.
Wavelength (talk) 14:59, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks!! Xaris333 (talk) 00:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
This link is for my own convenience: eo:Nea Salamina Famagusta FC.
Wavelength (talk) 03:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

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Comma in 'As of' template[edit]

Hi Wavelength.
Just wanted to point out that the comma you put after 2015 in the {{As of}} template here, is not needed and actually put the page in a non-existent category, 'Articles containing potentially dated statements from 2015,'. The date was already in 'US' (MDY) style. Regards, 220 of Borg 02:24, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for answering two questions.     a —> x     y —> b     a —> b
  1. This edit causes what problem? (What problem does this edit cause?)
  2. What edit causes this problem?
Answer: This edit causes this problem.
When I saw the red link to a category with an extra comma, I tried to find it in the wikicode so that I could correct it. I was not aware that my edit had affected that link.
Wavelength (talk) 16:00, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
You're probably lucky as it was me that put the 'As of' template there in the first place, so I noticed it quickly. Finding it took a bit longer. Face-smile.svg 220 of Borg 20:01, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Directory edits reverted[edit]

Formerly Hi

I noticed that you reverted my edits on the wikiproject council page and on WP:WikiProject Directory. The first one you reverted was an accident on my part so im sorry about that but WP:Directory has a link to WP:WikiProject Directory so I wanted to add a link to that page as a sort of back button. I am working on cleaning up the multiple directories and making an easier user interface for them so please dont revert my edit on the latter page if I make it again. It is nice to meet you. Tortle (talk) 02:38, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Tortle, I have seen the record of your contributions, and every edit seems to be without an edit summary. For guidance on edit summaries, please see Help:Edit summary. Also, it seems that many of your edits are test edits with little or no benefit. For guidance on test edits, please see Wikipedia:Test edit and Wikipedia:Sandbox.
Wavelength (talk) 02:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi again, I always forget to add edit summaries and sometimes I am in a rush to make edits quickly as to provide less disruption due to the construction so I dont add them. I redid my help edit with a length edit summary explaining my changes. And I know to use my sandbox and they arent test edits. I am simply trying to organize the directories and provide a better look. I took on this project because I was having trouble navigating and I wanted to adjust things to be more user friendly. You might think that the edits have little benefit because they are formatting and not adding content but I feel the benefit. I know what I am doing, I was on Wikipedia with a different account some years back and I still have the hang of it. Thank you, Tortle (talk) 03:06, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
I am revising the heading of this section from Hi to Directory edits reverted, in harmony with WP:TPOC, point 11 (Section headings). Please see Microcontent: How to Write Headlines, Page Titles, and Subject Lines. The new heading facilitates recognition of the topic in links and watchlists and tables of contents.
Wavelength (talk) 05:32, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
My two posts to User talk:Tortle have been archived to User talk:Tortle/Archive 1#Construction problems.
Wavelength (talk) 19:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC) and 16:10, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Dictionary Stories[edit]

Hello Wavelength,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Dictionary Stories for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. BeowulfBrower (talk) 02:41, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this notification.—Wavelength (talk) 02:45, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Artificial cloud[edit]

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An article that you have been involved in editing—Artificial cloud —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Pierre cb (talk) 18:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this notification.—Wavelength (talk) 18:39, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Spelling of "led"[edit]

From 01:44, 21 September 2015 (UTC) to 00:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC), I corrected hundreds of misspellings of "led" (the past tense and the past participle of the verb "to lead"). I located those misspellings from the search results for the character string lead by. Here is a link to a record of 2,100 consecutive edits with the same edit summary.

Wavelength (talk) 16:45, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

However - but[edit]

You have made an important observation on "however" and "but", and you have edited the article on Aziz Sancar, but you have not noticed that at the introduction of the article there is a redundant "and". (However, ... :-) Take care. --141.196.217.174 (talk) 07:45, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.Wavelength (talk) 15:44, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Reading schedule[edit]

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Thank you for this notification.—Wavelength (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Big thanks for your COI help and many great improvements to the 10:10 page. Much appreciated. Simuove (talk) 21:22, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for this kudos.—Wavelength (talk) 21:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

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Allegra Versace[edit]

If you want to, you can take a look at the article about Allegra Versace. That article is this weeks TAFI.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this invitation.—Wavelength (talk) 22:17, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
You would be a great asset for the TAFI project if you wish to become a member :)--BabbaQ (talk) 23:17, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. At this time I am concentrating my editing in other areas.
Wavelength (talk) 00:55, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WPLEA[edit]

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Doppler radar and bird migration[edit]

Hi:

I have redirected this article to the proper article section Weather radar#Doppler radar and bird migration.

Pierre cb (talk) 14:58, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this notification.—Wavelength (talk) 16:27, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

TAFI: Marie Serneholt[edit]

If you want to, take a look at the article about Marie Serneholt which is this weeks TAFI article. Regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this invitation related to WP:TAFI. I am revising the heading of this section from TAFI to TAFI: Marie Serneholt, in harmony with WP:TPOC, point 12 (Section headings). Please see Microcontent: How to Write Headlines, Page Titles, and Subject Lines. The new heading facilitates recognition of the topic in links and watchlists and tables of contents.
Wavelength (talk) 20:29, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this invitation.—Wavelength (talk) 16:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Happy Holiday/New Year![edit]

Pine cone on pine tree.jpg Happy holidays.
Best wishes for joy and happiness. Wavelength, may you have a great holidayOzzie10aaaa (talk) 13:07, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
A beautiful future is offered to you and me.
  • I heard a loud voice out of heaven saying, "Behold, God's dwelling is with people, and he will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away from them every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more. The first things have passed away."—Apocalypse 21:3, 4, World English Bible
  • The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears, let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires, let him take the water of life freely.—Apocalypse 22:17, World English Bible
Let us look hopefully to the future.
Wavelength (talk) 21:23, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Formal mediation has been requested[edit]

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Thank you for this notification.—Wavelength (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings[edit]

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To You and Yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 10:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Jesus Christ taught his disciples.
  • "For the Son of Man also came not to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many."—Mark 10: 45, World English Bible
  • "Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends, if you do whatever I command you."—John 15: 13, 14, World English Bible
Additional teachings are in the Bible.
Wavelength (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Request for mediation rejected[edit]

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Happy New Year, Wavelength![edit]

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year 2016}} to send this message
A new world on this planet is promised in the Bible.
May you qualify to live in this new world.
Wavelength (talk) 03:31, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject[edit]

Formerly Wikipedia:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject

Hello there, are you the one who created or manage Wikipedia:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject? Pakistan is missing from there so is there any chance a list of popular Pakistan-related topics could be created. --Saqib (talk) 10:21, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

I started that page and I have made most of the revisions to it. Here is a link to its history. I do not manage the lists themselves. If you want there to be "Wikipedia:WikiProject Pakistan/Popular pages", then please visit User talk:Mr.Z-man.
[I am revising the heading of this section from Wikipedia:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject to Wikipedia:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject, in harmony with WP:TPOC (Section headings).]
Wavelength (talk) 02:48, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Register[edit]

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Thank you for this notification.—Wavelength (talk) 23:25, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
This link is for my own reference.—Wavelength (talk) 21:44, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping[edit]

It's my understanding that the only things I'm allowed to say on this matter right now are "Thanks" and "Good luck," so I'm saying both. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

You are welcome.Wavelength (talk) 22:36, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Manual of Style/External support[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Manual of Style/External support has been nominated for deletion. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Manual of Style/External support.
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Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors![edit]

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In 2015 you were one of the top 300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs, and we would love to collaborate further.

Thanks again :) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 03:59, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for this kudos.—Wavelength (talk) 16:31, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks much[edit]

Thanks for your help with the new article I've created about the satirical parody film about fictional disease, Climate Change Denial Disorder.

Much appreciated,

Cirt (talk) 03:41, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

You are welcome.—Wavelength (talk) 03:59, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Categorisation[edit]

Appreciate your help with the uncategorised categories, it's one of those boring jobs that just has to be done, and the more people doing it the easier it becomes. One request though - 90% of category names are in two parts, and you can usually generalise both halves to form a parent category. So for instance, Category:Women cardiologists can go into Category:Cardiologists and Category:Women physicians. Also, you can often clone categories from similar ones - so I was able to clone the categories for Category:Wind farms in Uganda from Category:Wind farms in Kenya. Anyway, keep up the good work. Le Deluge (talk) 14:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

You are welcome.—Wavelength (talk) 18:29, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Le Deluge, your comments prompted me to start the page Wikipedia:Category combinatorics, which I have had in mind for a long time. I placed Category:Women cardiologists in only one larger category to save time, although I was aware that it was not the only larger category. I hope to comply with your request in the future.
Wavelength (talk) 01:13, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Half hour[edit]

When used as a noun, half hour should not be hyphenated. See this, this and this. Can you please fix Wiktionary to clarify that the hyphenated form is for use as an adjective. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:27, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

According to many dictionaries listed at http://www.onelook.com/?w=half-hour, the hyphenated form can be a noun.
Wavelength (talk) 20:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
This is a bothersome 30 minutes. Trains depart on the half hour. Give me a half hour to finish this. There is but one half hour between 11 and 11.30. Neither 29 nor 31 minutes a half hour make. For all but the first of these, make it half an hour, smooth as silk and escape the conundrum entirely. sirlanz 07:10, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestion. I prefer to avoid "half an hour", which is reduced from "a half of an hour".
Wavelength (talk) 23:09, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

BLUES[edit]

Thank you for your review, but as you can see from the measurements there is no connection with "climate change", the meteorological data (wind direction etc.) are only used to calculate air pollution. --Fmrauch (talk) 07:00, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Please see Air Pollution and Climate Change - Windows to the Universe.
Wavelength (talk) 15:34, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

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Nomination of List of multilingual websites for deletion[edit]

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Deletion discussion[edit]

Wavelength – This is offered as a bit of collegial advice. I hope you will take it in that spirit; you are also free to ignore it.

You are clearly passionate about the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of multilingual websites. That's good. I am a professor of linguistics, so you don't have to work very hard to convince me that multilingualism is an important aspect of life and society.

At the same time, though, you've made a lot of comments, many of them quite lengthy. Doing so might not have the effect you are hoping for. As the essay Wikipedia:Wall of text suggests, "the longer it [a discussion] is, the less of it people will read." You've made some good points, and may have more to make, but I would caution you against repeating yourself or giving the impression that you are trying to control the discussion.

That is not to say that you cannot make multiple comments, and I certainly don't want to dissuade you from making every relevant argument. It is, as I say, offered as advice about tone and tactics. And I hope my own tone doesn't come across as condescending. Best wishes and happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 02:55, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern. I have endeavored to refute every objection, because otherwise an objection might be thought to be irrefutable. Even just one objection thought to be irrefutable might be sufficient for deletion if the closing editor is not aware that it can be refuted. If no other commenter refutes it, then I am somewhat in a dilemma.
Wavelength (talk) 03:23, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey[edit]

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Thank you, The Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Steering Committee via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

This approach of "writing the job description" as "[o]ne of the first tasks" appears to be in agreement with Arnold B. Kanter, The Essential Book of Interviewing (ISBN 0-8129-2281-6), pages 5 and 6.

Perhaps, instead of asking supervisors to list the characteristics they are looking for, we should ask them to define what the job requires. This is a way of checking whether the characteristics they believe are necessary to perform the job are in fact necessary. Ask them to answer the question "What does a person have to DO in this job?"

Once we have identified the actual tasks a person must perform in the position, it becomes easier to assess the specific characteristics a candidate must have in order to perform those tasks.

Wavelength (talk) 14:47, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Deleted articles[edit]

I'd venture a guess that more than half the articles deleted from here are deleted before they get anywhere near as far as being categorized: adverts, tests, nonsense, vandalism, hoaxes, etc. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:28, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment, apparently in response to this.
Wavelength (talk) 22:39, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Be kind to those blind[edit]

At Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style #Be kind to those blind, you removed my comment. I expect it was an edit-conflict that you didn't notice? Please restore it. --RexxS (talk) 23:56, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

The comment has been restored. Otherwise I would have done so. Being familiar with Wavelength's style, I can assure you Wavelength hadn't noticed it. ---Sluzzelin talk 00:28, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the confirmation. Without knowing why it happened, I didn't want to give the impression I was edit-warring over a comment. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 00:39, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
RexxS, the removal was unintentional and I was not aware of it until I saw your message. I thank John Cline for restoring it.
Wavelength (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Every now and again editors will save a comment on the same page at nearly the same moment and the software will glitch. Looking at the time stamps makes it clear that this is what happened. I have no doubt that an edit conflict was not triggered in this example, nor that the removal was an unintentional act. I thank everyone affected by it for the kind manner they held when discussion ensued here. Best regards.--John Cline (talk) 01:14, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006[edit]

Formerly Hello. Help, please

I saw you recently edited on Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006 (AB 32), and you have been contributing here for over ten years. Thank you.

Maybe you can help me, or send me in the right direction. I added an exacting internally referenced citation about the continuation of AB32-related legislation (SB 32, which the California Assembly and Senate passed last week; and the AB 197 companion bill), see inline reference from above mentioned citation.

From some inexplicable reason the addition was reverted with a perplexing edit summary of "contributes nothing and appears to be WP:FRINGE". There are no theories mentioned, let alone fringe ones.

Even though we had a quasi-productive interaction previously; maybe User:Zackmann08 was thrown-off by the title of the citation without even looking at the content?

Maybe my word-smithing was lacking at the AB32 article? Could you use your experience to help? 69.58.42.90 (talk) 17:17, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

[I am revising the heading of this section from Hello. Help, please to Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006, in harmony with WP:TPOC (Section headings). Please see Microcontent: How to Write Headlines, Page Titles, and Subject Lines. The new heading facilitates recognition of the topic in links and watchlists and tables of contents.
Wavelength (talk) 23:39, 31 August 2016 (UTC)]
To err is human. (q:An Essay on Criticism) Perhaps User:Zackmann08 can explain how the added material "contributes nothing and appears to be WP:FRINGE".
Wavelength (talk) 23:39, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
I misinterpreted the addition to be implying that climate change did not exist. Re-reading the addition now, I'm not really sure how I thought that. My only explanation is that it was late at night... No excuse but there it is. My apologies. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:48, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your explanation and your apologies.
Wavelength (talk) 23:57, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for the discussion. I have reverted Zackmann08's revert (as he appears to have forgotten to self-revert). 69.58.42.90 (talk) 21:25, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

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ExxonMobil climate change controversy, help?[edit]

Maybe you could help clear-up some confusion again, this time at ExxonMobil climate change controversy?

An editor deleted what seems to be a well-sourced sentence about global warming and just left a comment "not about climate change"?

Reference examples:

  • titled "A New Debate Over Pricing the Risks of Climate Change"
  • titled "SEC Probes Exxon Over Accounting for Climate Change"
  • an excerpt from another reference "Environmentalists cheered the S.E.C. inquiry in hopes that regulators were escalating their enforcement on the oil and gas industry to include more rigorous reporting to investors on the potential risks of climate change to their businesses."
  • and another reference excerpt "An added twist is that the SEC is also reportedly interested in how Exxon factors potential carbon regulations into how it values its reserves, dovetailing neatly with several state investigations into whether the oil major covered up knowledge about the impact of climate change."

While I understand my wording choice is open to modification, I don't understand how it is "not about climate change". The editor didn't leave anything on Talk:ExxonMobil climate change controversy. I left them a message on their talk page, without a response. And left a message at another "involved editor", but he appears to be offline.

Am I missing something? 69.58.42.90 (talk) 18:10, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

You added the following text: "In September 2016, the Securities and Exchange Commission requested information from ExxonMobil on the company’s longstanding policy of not writing down the value of oil reserves, as other energy companies have done in the recent past." Four references immediately follow that text. The text itself does not mention climate change, although the references do so. I advise you to mention climate change in the text (preferably with some unique information from each of the four references), before adding it again.
Wavelength (talk) 19:30, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for the pointer. I will work on improving the wording. Note: User:Beagel is back online.
Do you want to help at Talk:ExxonMobil climate change controversy? 69.58.42.90 (talk) 20:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
At this time, I prefer to refrain from participating at that talk page.
Wavelength (talk) 20:28, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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Spelling of Difibulators[edit]

Thank you for your help in spelling the word. I have seen both spellings of the word "difibulators". Here is how it is used on this page. http://www.defibulators.org This is for the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Günther_Johannes_Paetsch

Yours truly, Swanstone (talk) 16:11, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

The word "defibulation" is used in the last paragraph of "Female genital mutilation#Type III" (version of 20:18, 8 November 2016).
Wavelength (talk) 20:39, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
Definitions of the word "defibrillator" can be found via http://www.onelook.com/?w=defibrillator. There is a discussion of "defibulator" at https://quote.ucsd.edu/phonoloblog/2006/03/24/defibulator/.
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Merry, merry![edit]

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:41, 26 December 2016 (UTC) Lights ablaze.JPG

Original research[edit]

When I started this section at 23:47, 28 December 2016 (UTC), I used the noun research with the meaning "results of exploration", and when I revised it at 16:52, 29 December 2016 (UTC), I used the noun research with the meaning "act or process of exploration". After that, I found the first usage in the last paragraph of the article at http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017011. Definitions of research are available via http://www.onelook.com/?w=research.
Wavelength (talk) 20:43, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I have been preparing the results of some of my own original research, with publication in mind, and I have been considering various options. No option has all the advantages.

Wavelength (talk) 23:47, 28 December 2016 (UTC) and 16:51, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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The perils of automation ..[edit]

I'm not sure this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Babughat&diff=prev&oldid=774518729 was an improvement. Philip Trueman (talk) 01:06, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

I have revised that article again.—Wavelength (talk) 01:10, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Log in to[edit]

Back in 2013 you admitted that:

"Google reported 25,700,000 results for "log into", and 4,130,000,000 results for "log in to", the ratio being about 1 to 160, but I consider the latter version to be contrary to logic".

What? It matters not a whit what you consider logical - this is after all English we're discussing - but what standard common usage by fluent speakers is. And that seem clear. Very annoying to see that you're still doing these edits years later. Snori (talk) 02:03, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I resumed after I discovered https://www.usingenglish.com/reference/phrasal-verbs/log+into.html. (The expression "log in to" can be followed by an infinitive.) Similar pages for other phrasal verbs are listed at User:Wavelength/About English/Expressions "into" and "in to"#Phrasal verbs.
Wavelength (talk) 04:59, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Quack websites[edit]

WOuld you mind awfully not including quack websites on your link list? I review links to mercola, Natural News and others periodically and it takes far longer than it should because I have to scan large numbers of non-mainspace links in the lists. One day they might restore the namespace selector in special:linksearch but until then the proliferation of links to these charlatans and scammers makes life harder. Guy (Help!) 23:24, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Firstly, different editors may differ as to what they consider to be quack websites. Secondly, where is there a policy forbidding links to quack websites? Thirdly, after undoing your changes to three subpages in my user namespace, I decided to remove the affected entries altogether, for the sake of peace.
Fourthly, I noticed in the history of your contributions that you even edited some archive pages of User talk:Jimbo Wales, although editors are instructed not to edit archive pages. Fifthly, because I do not know your criteria for identifying a "quack website", I can not be certain that there is not a link to another one in my userspace. Sixthly, is it difficult to skip over non-mainspace links in the link search?
Wavelength (talk) 23:42, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Editors may differ, but there is robust consensus that these are not reliable sources.
To your specific point, incredibly, yes it is. For a while we had the ability to filter linksearch by namespace, but it was removed from the interface. It's still in the API, it exists in AWB, but the only way to police them right now is to plough through the whole list. And for some of these sites that list has been a thousand or more links long at some points in the past. Also note I did not remove them, I unlinked them and left a small template indicating why the link is not useful. No information loss.
I can now see all the outbound links on a single pages of Special:Linksearch. That means I can review and remove new ones in minutes rather than taking half an hour or more. I actually have no problem with you or anyone maintaining lists of sources, as long as they don't include links to sites that fail WP:RS and which require constant monitoring to remove new references - Natural News, Mercola, Foodbabe, the Townsend Letter, Infowars and many others. Guy (Help!) 07:00, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
I have never used Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser or any other Wikipedia tool (Category:Wikipedia tools), but I am able to make human decisions about which search results to skip. (Please see #Spelling of "led".) According to Google, my performance in doing repetitive tasks seems to resemble that of an automated program. (Please see the last six lines of commentary at User talk:Wavelength/Archive 5#Verbs followed by "into".) It seems to me that almost any editor of average intelligence can develop a similar performance. Are you unable to skip over non-mainspace links in the link search list, or is WP:AWB like a fast-moving train that is difficult or impossible to stop for exceptions?
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Two-shortcut rule[edit]

Hello, Wavelength. Earlier today, you reverted my addition of a third shortcut to a section of WP:Manual of Style. I wasn't aware of the two-shortcut rule and I appreciate being told about it. But I noticed that the same page contains many shortcut boxes that appear to violate the rule, with some of them containing as many as five or six shortcuts. Can you point me to some guidance or discussions that address the scope of the two-shortcut rule (i.e., when it must be followed and when not)? Thanks again for your assistance. NewYorkActuary (talk) 01:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Help request for Hansjörg Wyss[edit]

Hello Wavelength! I'm working on the Hansjörg Wyss article again to make a few minor updates (essentially adding information that's been published over the last few years). Any interest in taking a look? Your help is always appreciated.

  • New material is in draft form here
  • Differences from current article highlighted here
  • Talk page note with a bit more explanation is here

Thanks so much for your consideration! Heatherer (talk) 14:01, 11 May 2017 (UTC)