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The obverse of the Kennedy half dollar

The Kennedy half dollar is a fifty cent coin issued by the U.S. Mint. Intended as a memorial to the assassinated President John F. Kennedy, it was authorized by Congress just over a month after his death. Use of existing works by Mint sculptors Gilroy Roberts and Frank Gasparro allowed dies to be prepared quickly, and striking of the new coins began in January 1964. The coins vanished from circulation upon their release in March 1964 due to collectors, hoarders, and those interested in a memento of the late president. Although the Mint greatly increased production, they still failed to circulate. Starting with 1965-dated pieces, the percentage of fine silver was reduced from 90% to 40% (silver clad), but even this change failed to restore the coin to circulation. In 1971, silver was eliminated entirely. A special design for the reverse of the half dollar was issued for the United States Bicentennial and was struck in 1975 and 1976. Even though ample supplies of half dollars are now available, their circulation is extremely limited. Since 2002, Kennedy half dollars have only been struck to satisfy the demand from collectors, and are available at a premium through the Mint. (Full article...)

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Congratulations! — Cirt (talk) 23:31, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. This is actually happening as there are developments, the Mint is deciding what special versions of the half to issue to commemorate the 50th. Possibly in gold. I'd likely buy one, if they don't jack the price too high above melt.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
Heh, if ya watch Fox News you might be influenced to wish to buy lots of gold... — Cirt (talk) 02:00, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

April Fool TFA?

Last year you suggested Disco Demolition Night might work but it didn't clear FAC in time to be a contender. Do you want to put it forward for this year? One article has been suggested at TFAR but I think it would be good to have a choice between articles rather than a yes/no to one article. BencherliteTalk 10:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

From Here to Eternity (feels like it)

Also do you no anyone neutral who does GA's and likes musicals, still looking for someone to review From Here To Eternity. Also do you think including things from this about how original works in west end have lost interest. There are other articles covering same topic but am worried adds bias to one side a littleBlethering Scot 22:00, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Also we have the Category:Original musicals, this wouldn't apply to eternity as is based on a novel. However it does have an original score and I'm wondering if we have a cat like this, or if given in the urrent climate where a lot of musicals use prerecorded work would this be a useful catBlethering Scot 22:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
What about User:Eric Corbett? Not sure if he likes musicals but I'm sure he will have read the book or seen the movie, as I did (the movie_. Regarding Sir Tim's comment, I think inclusion would be OK. If he is right, and 2013 proves to be the end of the original score musical as we know it, more of a historical perspective might be called for as the article matures.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:45, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I doubt he would take it on, slight old history and I'm not sure he's active properly at the moment due to recent drama. He is a very good reviewer however and knows his stuff. Ill look out other sources as well and try and add something, just think it might add some perspective to the closure and future.Blethering Scot 23:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I hate musicals, and I'm only back to clear up some unfinished business with a few other articles. Eric Corbett 00:03, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks anyway Eric.Blethering Scot 00:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
You will probably have seen or will see my ping but your attention would be helpful at Talk:From Here to Eternity the Musical/GA1.Blethering Scot 19:08, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I would specifically appreciate you taking a look at the two I've not done in Production history and the one in references bolded.Blethering Scot 20:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Saw you commented, would you mind taking a look at the bolded reference comment from reviewer. Its ref 32 and I'm unsure how to fix it or if was intended.Blethering Scot 16:36, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Misclick?

Yo, Wehwalt, just want to double-check: was this reversion of Bushranger the rollback misclick it appears to be? Writ Keeper  20:12, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I got really tired of accidentally hitting that infernal rollback link, so I did this. 28bytes (talk) 20:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

I did something a bit fancier: this removes the rollback link from the watchlist on mobile devices, and this adds a confirmation dialog to the rollback link on the watchlist when it does appear. Writ Keeper  20:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes--Wehwalt (talk) 20:48, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For your patience, hard work and massive help in making From Here to Eternity the Musical a GA article. Your an amazing tireless contributor, who cannot be praised enough in my opinion. Blethering Scot 17:20, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I appreciate it very much. But you were the motivating force on the article, you made it happen.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Maybe, however without your help I would never of achieved that goal. I really appreciate it and do hope we can work together again in the future.Blethering Scot 20:59, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm sure we can manage something. Good working with you too.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

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Imogen Holst

I'm back from my break, and back with minor composers. I hope that you are fully recovered (I spy another coin in the pipeline, so it seems you are productive again). If you can give Imogen a quick once-over at the current PR, I'd be most grateful. Brianboulton (talk) 21:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

That one was written a few months ago but I am making slow progress on William H. Seward. I shall look in, I hope tomorrow. I trust the time away was enjoyable.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:31, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

WP:FOUR for Three-cent nickel

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Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Three-cent nickel. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:53, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

TFAR notification for Thaddeus Stevens

I nominated Thaddeus Stevens to WP:TFAR for the 222nd anniversary of his birthday.

I think it's most educational for our readers in light of recent films 12 Years a Slave (film) and of course Lincoln (2012 film).

Thank you for your high quality contributions to Wikipedia, especially this FA related to civil rights and human rights.

Cirt (talk) 22:35, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. It's as good a day as any I suppose.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:59, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Certainly! :) — Cirt (talk) 03:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Lafayette dollar

Wehwalt, I finished the GAR for Lafayette dollar. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns regarding this review. It was a pleasure reviewing this article--you've done a great deal of research and it certainly shows in your article's broad coverage of its subject. Thanks again! -- Caponer (talk) 02:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate it very much. I've looked at the review. I'm about to log out for the night so will deal with these sometime tomorrow, likely late in the day. You're welcome.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lafayette dollar

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Your GA nomination of Lafayette dollar (2

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Wehwalt, I hereby award you The Good Article Barnstar for all your hard work undertaken to improve Lafayette dollar to Good Article status! Congratulations on an extraordinary job well done. It was a pleasure working with you throughout the Good Article review process! -- Caponer (talk) 01:10, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, that is very nice of you. Is there a review with which I might assist you?--Wehwalt (talk) 01:51, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thaddeus Stevens

Thaddeus Stevens (1792–1868) was a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Pennsylvania and one of the leaders of the Radical Republican faction of the Republican Party during the 1860s. A fierce opponent of slavery and discrimination against African-Americans, Stevens sought to secure their rights during Reconstruction, in opposition to President Andrew Johnson. After serving in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, Stevens was elected to Congress in 1848 as a Whig. His activities in opposition to slavery cost him votes and he did not seek reelection in 1852. Stevens joined the newly formed Republican Party, and was elected to Congress again in 1858. Stevens argued that slavery should not survive the war; he was frustrated by the slowness of President Abraham Lincoln to support his position. As chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee during the American Civil War, he played a major part in the war's financing. After Lincoln's assassination in April 1865, Stevens came into conflict with the new president, Johnson. Stevens's last great battle was to secure articles of impeachment in the House against Johnson, though the Senate did not convict the President. (Full article...)

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And drama ensues...

Hello there,

It has been a while. I don't mean to reconnect over drama but unfortunately we're headed in that direction. To make an incredibly long story short, this user has been less than cooperative (with little repercussions in the past), refuses to acknowledge the concept of fair and balanced, and is quick to berate anyone who says otherwise. And this hasn't just solely happened to me, it's happened to other users (as far back as 2011).

I've reported this behavior in the past but there has been relative indifference. After an inactive period, they reappeared yesterday beating the drum of injustice that Bart Scott has apparently caused by playing football. Alarmingly, the edit summary included the phrase "...designed to paint scott in a favorable light."

I don't know what course of action should be taken here but edits like these need to stop. They're not presenting opposing viewpoints and I'm wary of speaking with this user given our past history. -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 02:28, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Good to see you back, I've faithfully kept up the History article. I'll look at it. I'm not the best peacemaker or disciplinarian, but I'll see if there's anything constructive I can do.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:27, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
OK, I've looked at it and what he is doing is not consistent with BLP. I've watchlisted the article and will await the next move.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:21, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Imogen Holst FAC

Just letting the faithful peer-reviewers know that I've nominated IH at FAC. Brianboulton (talk) 21:27, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Lupton/Mary

could you please check the refs. on the "Lupton family" page. And also the "Mary, Princess Royal, Countess of Harewood" page too thanks so much Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.230.101.52 (talk) 09:11, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Can you be more specific about what I should check for?--Wehwalt (talk) 09:44, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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Comiskey Park

Disco Demolition Night was an ill-fated baseball promotion that took place on July 12, 1979, at Comiskey Park (pictured) in Chicago, Illinois. In the late 1970s, dance-oriented disco music was highly popular in the United States, particularly after featuring in hit films such as Saturday Night Fever (1977). Despite its popularity, disco sparked a backlash from rock music fans. This opposition was prominent enough that the Chicago White Sox engaged shock jock and anti-disco campaigner Steve Dahl for a promotion at a twi-night doubleheader between the White Sox and the Detroit Tigers. Attendees were to bring a disco record with them, and between games, Dahl would destroy the collected vinyl albums in an explosion. Many of those in attendance had come to see the explosion rather than the games and rushed onto the field after the detonation, remaining there until dispersed by riot police. The second game was initially postponed due to damage caused by the rowdy fans, but was instead forfeited to the Tigers the next day. Disco Demolition Night remains well known as one of the most extreme promotions in major league history. (Full article...)

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DYK for Lewis and Clark Exposition dollar

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1865 two-cent piece

The two-cent piece was produced by the U.S. Mint for circulation from 1864 to 1872 and for collectors in 1873. It was designed by James B. Longacre. The economic turmoil of the American Civil War caused government-issued coins, even the non-silver Indian Head cent, to vanish from circulation, hoarded by the public. One means of filling this gap was private token issues, often made of bronze. The cent at that time was struck of a copper-nickel alloy. The piece was difficult for the Philadelphia Mint to strike, and Mint officials, as well as the annual Assay Commission, recommended the coin's replacement. Despite opposition from those wishing to keep the metal nickel in the coinage, Congress passed the Coinage Act of 1864, authorizing bronze cents and two-cent pieces. Although initially popular in the absence of other federal coinage, the two-cent piece's place in circulation was later usurped by the three-cent piece and the nickel. There were decreasing mintages each year, and it was abolished by the Mint Act of 1873. Large quantities were redeemed by the government and melted. Nevertheless, two-cent pieces remain inexpensive by the standards of 19th-century American coinage. (Full article...)

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Is four TFAs in one month a personal and / or all-comers record?! Well done! BencherliteTalk 11:53, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Not sure, but I'll keep the coins away for a couple of months. Next year, I'm thinking about suggesting a back to back William H. Seward on April 14 (assassination attempt, as part of the Lincoln plot) (article still in progress) and Andrew Johnson on the 15th (accession to the presidency). Unless we get something better of course. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:00, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Congrats on still another TFA! :)

Book articles

Good afternoon. When writing an article about a book, should the "content" or "summary" section be sourced to the book itself, to other summaries published in secondary reliable sources or to both? Thanks. Mohamed CJ (talk) 10:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it needs to be sourced at all, absent a dispute as to accuracy. The book itself is the reference, but need not be footnoted.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:46, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks :) Mohamed CJ (talk) 22:37, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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WP:FOUR for Louisiana Purchase Exposition dollar

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Re: John Tyler

Yes, I'd definitely like to get that done. I regret never finishing it. I've been pretty busy lately but I can put a couple weekends into it. —Designate (talk) 05:37, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I can certainly help out. I got the books from the library.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:38, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

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Franklin Peale

Franklin Peale (1795–1870) was an employee and officer of the Philadelphia Mint from 1833 to 1854. He was the son of painter Charles Willson Peale, and was born in the museum of curiosities that his father ran in Philadelphia. For the most part, Franklin Peale's education was informal, though he took some classes at the University of Pennsylvania. He became adept in machine making. In 1820, he became an assistant to his father at the museum, and managed it after Charles Peale's death in 1827. In 1833, Peale was hired by the Mint of the United States ("Mint"), and was sent for two years to Europe to study and report back on coining techniques. He returned with plans for improvement, and designed the first steam-powered coinage press in the United States, installed in 1836. Peale was made Melter and Refiner of the Philadelphia Mint that year, and Chief Coiner three years later upon the retirement of the incumbent, Adam Eckfeldt, who continued in his work without pay. Eckfeldt's labor allowed Peale to run a medal business using Mint property. This sideline eventually caused Peale's downfall: conflicts with Engraver James B. Longacre and Melter and Refiner Richard Sears McCulloh led to Peale being accused of misconduct, and he was dismissed by President Franklin Pierce in 1854. In retirement, Peale continued his involvement in and leadership of many civic organizations; he died in 1870. (Full article...)

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Congrats on the latest TFA! :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 00:49, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Note

Didn't want to interrupt the discussion, so I will just drop a note here out of respect. I replied because I had previously been the one to advance the idea that Ukraine and Russia sources should be weighed carefully, not FPaS, in response to a question by the filing editor. As far as I could see, he had not said anything to that effect at all and that particular comment of mine was unrelated to the close, and was instead, general in nature. Added I would agree that finding better ways to close these discussions to keep them off ANI is a goal worth pursuing. As you pointed out, my last close in this area was far from successful. Avoiding controversy is not simple, and perhaps not possible at all. Dennis Brown |  | WER 20:33, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I agree with the latter part of what you said, and accept your views in good faith on the former. But Dennis, given your own experience, and how recent it was, I have no doubt that anyone with a scorecard just marked down "Dennis Brown wrote in four times to defend the admin who did just like he did." (imputed view to them, not me) I'm not saying you are wrong, I think highly of you. But perhaps the discretion being the better part of valor bit still has validity after four hundred years. It's not the answers that are bugging me, it's how it looks.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:41, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Well, I've spoken out against FPaS more than I have in support over the last two years. To be balanced, I think it is fair that I also be vocal when I think he is in the right, as I don't want to appear to have it out for him, I've just been the one to notice it. I am pretty quick to tell an admin when I think they are wrong, which doesn't win me any popularity contests with fellow admin. When I err, I try to eat my own crow gracefully. Not every note to an admin is done onwiki, however. I shouldn't expect most people would know that or keep score, and I sometimes forget we all have different perceptions of the same thing. In this case, I actually thought he did a pretty good job considering the difficulty of the task. Certainly better than my last. Being at an administrative board, all I could consider is abuse or mistake, and just try to help the filing editor understand why, to find a way forward. It is already at review [1], which I had already decided to not participate in for the reasons you are expressing your concerns. Any way, I respect your opinion, and will keep appearances in mind. Dennis Brown |  | WER 20:55, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Fair enough. Thank you for spending the time explaining your position.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:59, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

PR

Hi Wehwalt, hope this finds you well. I've put D. Djajakusuma up for PR at Wikipedia:Peer review/D. Djajakusuma/archive1, and I would be most obliged if you could take a look. Any more coin images to crop? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

OK, might be tomorrow as I have to finish Sturmvogel's FAC. I'll look on the images. Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:40, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I'm not in a big hurry, owing to the Easter holiday (Good Friday is a holiday in Indonesia too, somehow).  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:36, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
I was surprised how much of one it is in Canada, stores closed and whatnot.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:39, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
  • And two days off of school, which was always nice (Easter Monday, which nobody has heard of here). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:49, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm sure. Would not be surprised if within ten years, a lot of major stores are open for Christmas. Not that I care, but it's interesting to watch.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:40, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

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FA congratulations again again etc...

Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of Louisiana Purchase Exposition dollar to FA status recently. I know you know all about WP:TFAR and the "pending" list, so this is just a reminder to use them as and when suits you.
You (and your talk-page stalkers) may also be interested to hear that there have been some changes at the TFA requests page recently. Nominators no longer need to calculate how many "points" an article has, the instructions have been simplified, and there's a new nomination system using templates similar to those used for DYK suggestions. Please consider nominating an article, or commenting on an existing nomination, and leaving some feedback on your experience. Thank you. (I know you already know about this, of course - I'm just taking the opportunity to advertise the new TFAR system a bit more to your many readers!) BencherliteTalk 14:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm actually surprised to see there are 257 watchers, my experience is it usually hovers a lot lower than that except during major fracases! Possibly I have offended more people than I realise.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:22, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm at 158 - although I don't know whether that's good, bad or average for me. Some of them are bound to be users who have left (voluntarily or otherwise...) so my real figure is much lower, I'm sure. BencherliteTalk 14:43, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Sgt. Pepper peer review

Hi, Wehwalt. I've put Sgt. Pepper up at peer review and I would appreciate any comments and/or suggestions you have for improving the article in preparation for FAC. Cheers! GabeMc (talk|contribs) 16:44, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I always try to give back to the music world. Your comments on Babe Ruth, also at PR, would be very welcome.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! I was glad to see that you were working on Ruth and I would be happy to make some comments at the PR. Cheers! GabeMc (talk|contribs) 19:02, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Calling someone with a mop

Wehwalt, can you you or a talk page stalker with a mop keep an eye on John_Walsh_(U.S._politician)? See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Walsh_(U.S._politician)&action=history . A single purpose account, likely affiliated with Walsh's primary opponent, keeps posting a link to a youtube video interview where Walsh comments on Social Security, but they do so with their own analysis, not linked to a RS, it's an OR or SYNTH issue. But I'm tired of reverting. Montanabw(talk) 22:32, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

I've watchlisted it.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:36, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Benjamin edits

Have been interested in seeing all the additions to the Benjamin article - very informative! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:21, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Glad you like it.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:39, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Arctic thanks

Hi. I don't think I thanked you adequately for the newspaper sources you provided concerning the steamship disaster. I've been reading through them, and they are a splendid source. I hope to start serious work on the article soon, and will keep you posted. Meanwhile, if there's a review that needs attention, I'm yer man. Brianboulton (talk) 23:10, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. I am delighted to share with all these fruits and regret so few have taken up the offer. Five weeks until my own Arctic expedition! Could you take a peek at John Tyler, which I am doing with Designate, and is one of our more obscure presidents, but still, it's a president.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:26, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Almost all I know about Tyler is that Charles Dickens met him on his first American journey, and was rather impressed by him. Something about that here, but without citation details. I will certainly check out the article and report back. I have Thorpe affair at peer review at the moment - another sad & slightly squalid political story to go with my previous Driberg and Profumo - if you can spare a moment to look. Brianboulton (talk) 23:34, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

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What do you think of this? Is there a value in consistency among the articles? I don't feel strongly either way but will support whatever you do with this. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Same here, I didn't feel strongly enough to revert and was waiting to see if you would do anything. We've made changes along the way, or had them forced on us, so there's not a whole lot of consistency to violate. I'd let it go.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Scott

Seems the user is bent on mudslinging, apparently. They left a note for me on their TP. I will caution this user sounds very similar to another IP I dealt with recently. -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 23:20, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

It may be time to ask another admin to see what should be done.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:08, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Orel Hershiser's scoreless innings streak/archive1‎

I see that you have just made a WP:MLB nomination at WP:FAC. I hope that you might be interested in commenting at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Orel Hershiser's scoreless innings streak/archive1‎.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:21, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

I will but it may take me a few days because I am leaving on travel tomorrow and have another FAC review half completed.Wehwalt (talk) 13:40, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
I got your message. Right now the article awaits a image and source review. So you are not holding things up. After those have been done, if you still have not gotten back to the article I will drop a note on the FAC about your offer to suspend your review.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:56, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Can you drop by and close out your review.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

PR Request

Hi Wehwalt, hope all is well. I've got Union Films up at PR here and was wondering if you could be so kind as to review. I'll try and stop by Babe Ruth once I'm done giving We hope comments re: Red Skelton. You certainly don't shy away from major topics! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:58, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Doing my best. The coins will probably just be fill-ins over the next year, what with the GMU thing, and them expecting history. (maybe they like sports too). I'll most likely work on Union Films tomorrow.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:12, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Wehwalt and Wehwalt's tps-ers

Hey, just a heads up to various responsible collaborator-type people (and their talk page stalkers!) that I'd sure appreciate extra eyes watchlisting two racehorse articles from now through next weekend, both due to the upcoming 2014 Preakness Stakes to be run on May 17: California Chrome and Oxbow (horse). The first is the horse that won the Derby this year; the article is getting lots of traffic for a horse article and has major BLP concerns (owners, trainers getting an unusual amount of press due to heart-warming stories). The article had one particularly nasty vandal hit during the Derby (an idiot posting that the horse died, reverted quickly, but still..). The Oxbow article will be TFA on May 17 because it's about last year's Preakness winner, and I anticipate a certain amount of vandalism there too; both the usual stuff, but also some BLP concerns because two of the people connected to the horse have been targeted by PETA this year for their annual "let's hyperventilate and exaggerate something" story. :-P I'll be around, but am also giving some lectures that weekend at an equine expo, so may not be online the morning of the race when USA vandals most likely to start striking. Thanks. Montanabw(talk) 20:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm not certain I'm available in the morning that day, but I'll do my best to keep an eye on things. I really haven't followed these things this year.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:10, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Oxbow will go TFA in the evening US time, so that would be the time to start peeking at that one. The vandals started hitting California Chrome about an hour before post time (about the time when many people start tuning into the broadcast on NBC) Post time for the Preakness (when they actually run the race) will be about 6:20 pm Eastern time. Anything anyone can do will be appreciated, but no obligation, either, of course. Montanabw(talk) 18:05, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Just checking whether at FAC...

...you might consider taking a look at Warlugulong, a shortish article about a painting, and commenting at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Warlugulong/archive1? It is languishing near the bottom of the list and, while I've been doing my best at reviewing other articles, isn't getting much attention. Thanks for your work at FAC regardless! hamiltonstone (talk) 01:39, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. I will look at it but it may take me a few days, I am way behind. Thank you for your work, as well.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Marvellous, thank you, some good catches and queries there. I have responded to them all, I hope, in the article and on the talk page. hamiltonstone (talk) 13:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

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Thorpe affair

Just a courtesy note to inform peer reviewers that Thorpe affair has been nominated at FAC. Brianboulton (talk) 19:03, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank You!

With your help, the WINC (AM) was just promoted to Featured Article status. Together, we took a C-Class article, edited, added and made it a Good Article. We didn't stop there, we made it better and now it is a Featured Article. Whether you made one edit or twenty, you still helped and I thank you. :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 10:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

You are very welcome. Pleased to have helped.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:26, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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Congrats on getting Babe Ruth to FA. I know that Secret and I were supposed to help you with it, but I got busy with things in real life. It's a really great article and thank you for contributing significantly to make it better. Newyorkadam (talk) 02:09, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
We will do another one. I am taking a break at present, but look me up later on.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:00, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

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No idea, sorry.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:00, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Alt text on Babe Ruth

Can you add alt text to all of the images on Babe Ruth? Thanks. -Newyorkadam (talk) 19:12, 31 May 2014 (UTC)Newyorkadam

I'm about to leave on a trip and do not have time, I'm afraid. Besides, I suck at alt text. I really prefer to leave that for the people who are more motivated on the subject than me.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:16, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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Checkers speech Harvard errors

I imagine you have a fair number of pages on your watchlist, so I'm not surprised you missed my comment about there being a few Harvard errors in the Checkers speech article. Since it's a featured article, do you think you could remove those in the next couple of days or so? It shouldn't take too long, I hope. :) AmericanLemming (talk) 01:11, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I've fixed them now. I haven't looked at that article in at least a year. I'll have to see if my GMU affiliateship can turn up some useful sources. Thank you for drawing my attention to it.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:49, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your support

Wehwalt, I would like to take this moment and thank you for the trust you had placed in me and for your support in my RfA that happened a while ago. Although it didn't turn out as I had planned, I certainly appreciated all the comments and suggestions given by you and other people. I will learn from all of them and will hopefully run again someday when I'm fully ready. Thank you. TheGeneralUser (talk) 13:04, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

When you do I'm sure that you'll get more support than mine I'm glad to have you as a colleague on Wikipedia.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:27, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson

The Stone Mountain Memorial half dollar was an American fifty-cent piece struck in 1925. Its main purpose was to raise money for the Stone Mountain Memorial – a large sculpture in memory of Confederate general Robert E. Lee on a huge rock outcropping near Atlanta, Georgia. The obverse of the coin (pictured) features Lee and Stonewall Jackson; the reverse has the caption "Memorial to the Valor of the Soldier of the South". Stone Mountain and the coin were designed by sculptor Gutzon Borglum. To appease Northerners, Congress also intended the coin to honor the recently deceased president, Warren G. Harding, but all reference to him was removed from the design by order of his successor, Calvin Coolidge. Extensive sales efforts for the coin took place throughout the South, though these were hurt by the firing of Borglum in 1925, which alienated many of his supporters. A 1928 audit of the fundraising showed excessive expenses and misuse of money, and construction ground to a halt the same year—a scaled-down sculpture was eventually completed in 1970. Due to the large quantities issued, the Stone Mountain Memorial half dollar remains inexpensive compared with other U.S. commemoratives. (Full article...)

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SS Arctic disaster

Maybe this is not the time... but the PR has started. A few eyes have already checked out the AmEng aspects, but I would welcome your input here, and on any other aspects, of course. In your own time. Brianboulton (talk) 20:08, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Freedom from Want (painting)‎

Are you going to list this at Wikipedia:Good articles/Art and architecture?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:57, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, you did not update the talk page tags with class=GA.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:59, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
I finished these up myself.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about that. Congrats on the GA.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:17, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

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John Tyler

Almost there... Is there supposed to be a bibliography entry for Rives? I think you added those footnotes. —Designate (talk) 02:23, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you mean ... yes, I think unless things go badly wrong it will be promoted soon.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:27, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Footnotes 56 and 59 link to "Rives, pp. ..." but there's no book title or article title. If those weren't added by you I'll find another source. —Designate (talk) 02:34, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm not certain. If I did, I screwed up one way or the other. If you can sub in another source, that would be great.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:53, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
Nevermind, I can't figure out where those came from. Regardless: Great work on the article, and thanks for getting it through FAC! I'm pretty excited it passed. —Designate (talk) 00:22, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Mostly your work, of course. As i said in the FAC, my work was mostly filling in and technical. I'll still fix those when I get a chance, but it may have to wait until I get home next month. Any interest in doing another one? The 1840 election could be fun.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:56, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, we can keep going. I'm about 2/3 done with Franklin Pierce, such a depressing fellow. —Designate (talk) 10:45, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Suits me. How about you complete it, then I'll go in with journal articles, and whatever I can find in GMU's library, and fill anything I think is missing or underdone, and get the technical stuff in order. I'm in Europe for the next month anyway.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:40, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good! Designate (talk)

Congrats on the latest FA. Hope your excursion is going well. BencherliteTalk 23:36, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Quite well.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:07, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Wehwalt; would you mind giving this a second look. Ceoil (talk) 00:48, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Will do.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:32, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Value and memorial again

Stone Mountain Memorial half dollar is precious again, - I feel I want to say that once a week ;) - Did you know that I thought of your "What I stand for" when I created the latest top of my user page, to be succeeded by "Ich gehe nicht schnell", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Excellent thank you very much it is very nice of you to say that. Although the people involved change certain things remain true.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:26, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Scripts

I have a script for closing MFDs, a script for checking page size for DYK purposes and no doubt various other scripts that I've forgotten about. All of these tasks I do infrequently. What I actually need is a "FA congratulations" script, except it would complain of overwork whenever it saw your name in the list. Well done for Liberty Head double eagle and I'll try and have a look at the Benjamin FAC later this week. Yours, BencherliteTalk 18:27, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you indeed I'm not an expert on scripts but I am sure that somebody could work up something for you if you asked around.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:15, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Coins

Hi Wehwalt-

Per our earlier discussion - I'm trying to plan a few trips to the Smithsonian for this summer and I want to feel them out regarding coin images. Unlike paper currency (which I can scan inside the vault) coins typically go to their photo department, which requires scheduling, security, and headaches. My photography experience is mainly landscapes and architecture, a bit different. I'm willing to try taking some photographs which I assume would require much less red tape (provided they agree), but I will need to consult with someone (or a few people) regarding optimal lighting setups and lens selection. My first trip down will likely be the second to last or last week of June. If you have time, see what you can do about your list of interest. I'm pinging Crisco 1492 to see if he has any suggestions on who knows the ins and outs of macro photography.--Godot13 (talk) 06:25, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

  • Well, I am unfamiliar with really good coin photographers on-wiki. Personally I've used my camera, my macro lens, a tripod, and fairly long exposures (not having the lighting necessary). The results are decent, though my coins were dirty. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:28, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for anything you can do in that department. Although I've used cameras in the past, I was not satisfied with my efforts, as I am simply not a good photographer, and prefer these days to, when possible, leave it to those better at it than I (I'll still take a shot with my iPhone at that coin inside the display case!). You may want to get in touch with Matt Dinger with Lost Dutchman Rare Coins in Indianapolis, if you send me an email I will reply with his (or you may be able to find it online) as he has been kind enough to give us standing permission to use the images of coins he posts online (on Cointalk.com, or on eBay) and he may be willing to give you some pointers on photography.
From my one contact with the Smithsonian, which sort of fizzled out, I gather they are not willing to pull too many coins at once, perhaps ten would be a fair figure. I fairly desperately need a Type II (they should know what that means) three-cent silver. We have Type I and Type III, but I won't rewrite that article without images in hand. All of the known patterns of the Barber coinage are in their collection, we were forced to a pre-1923 book of poor quality and I'd like to replace that. If they have the two (one round, one multi-sided) $50 Panama-Pacific gold coins of 1915, we need those images for me to write that article. Any pattern coins, say of the Walking Liberty half dollar, the Mercury dime, or anything else 20th-century in patterns (those generally didn't make it outside the Mint) would be good, especially the "checker" size (smaller and thicker than the issued coin) of the Saint-Gaudens double eagle. Beyond that, (or failing that, as I have given you "wish list" items, and I really am not aware of a listing of their collection online), any of the different types of large cents or half cents would be good as I am going to get to those sooner or later, and the earliest (1790s) ones are rare and expensive in condition good enough to illustrate. The 1849 Liberty Head double eagle may be on public display, unless they have pulled it to send it to the ANA convention in Chicago in early August, if it is, and you think you can photograph it, grab it. Thanks again for being willing to go to the effort. I actually collect exonumia more than coins, and I don't have the interest or money to compete with the well-heeled collectors of top-grade US coins.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:26, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
      • Seems like a good place to start. My initial inquiry about me doing the photography seems to have been well-received. This means in the next two weeks I need to make sure I have the right gear and attempt something I've never done before. As coin-related questions arise I'll get in touch...-Godot13 (talk) 16:45, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
I had to postpone this trip, I hope to get down there in July/August. Will not forget (to try and photograph) the coins...--Godot13 (talk) 17:49, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, no hurry am traveling myself--Wehwalt (talk) 04:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you indeed for that--Wehwalt (talk) 01:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Franklin Pierce

Hey, I've completed a pretty good first draft with Franklin Pierce; I'd love some help getting it to FA, if you're still interested. —Designate (talk) 02:06, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I am but I'm still away with limited Internet access I'll look it over and start getting together materials though but the real work may have to wait about three weeks. Looks like only one of the decent biographies is available in Kindle which is how I've been getting books on John Hay while I'm away-Wehwalt (talk) 02:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

IPNA

Do you think coins like Indian Head cent should have the WP:IPNA tag on the talk page?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

It's difficult to say. You might want to ask there. The cent doesn't really have that much to do with Native Americans other than the name and possibly some elements of the design. Obviously coins such as the golden dollar issued recently that have more of a connection. I'm happy either way.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:51, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Why don't you come up with a list of coins and inquire at their talk page. I see Sacagawea dollar, Indian Head eagle and Indian Head gold pieces as possiilities and you seem to have mentioned one that would be less intuitive based on name alone. I know at WP:CHICAGO, we just came across Isabella quarter during a bot tagging run and are quite pleased to have found it (Wikipedia_talk:CHICAGO#Tagging_request_notice).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:15, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Alright I'll work on it. It's surprising how many of my articles touch on Chicago when I was born in New York! You do have Columbian half dollar, right? I admit that Wikiprojects and categories are not my strong suit when creating an article. Give me a few days on the Native American coins I'm on one of my trips right now--Wehwalt (talk) 14:11, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't see it as necessary, but if someone added it, I probably wouldn't edit war to remove it either. Native people in white man's art is not a priority for the project, given the state of the articles on actual culture that need work. JMO. Montanabw(talk) 02:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Horatio Bottomley

Still at sea, I imagine (literally, not figuratively ). If time and inclination allow, you may like to cast a reviewer's eye over Mr Bottomley, now at peer review (lots of legal stuff – he was rarely out of a courtroom). Brianboulton (talk) 18:30, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, though things are starting to wind down. I will happily review it.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:37, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Question about your comment on ToU

Hi Wehwalt. Your comment at ANI here about the ToU, namely that "it was imposed above our heads and is another's hobbyhorse. I personally, as an admin, will take no part in enforcing it." was remarked by Tparis over at Talk:COI in this comment. I am unaware of an admin being unwilling to enforce a WP policy (my experience is not vast so this might happen all the time, for all I know!) but I found your broad statement striking, and am interested to hear your thoughts, if you care to say more. (a little context for you: i work at a university and think about COI all the time and have been unhappy that WP has only a guideline, and that our tools for handling/managing COI are so weak and widely misunderstood. As for me I am very happy that the WMF made disclosure mandatory -- this is the minimum COI policy that any organization should have. I am working on strengthening the language in our guideline about what to do when you suspect COI -- see here. Fixing that is important to me for WP's general benefit and to help avoid ANI threads like the one in which you commented, but I also have been through a period when I was hounded across the project with accusations of COI; nobody should have to endure that. ok, will shut up now). Jytdog (talk) 18:12, 10 July 2014 (UTC) (fix broken ping to TParis Jytdog (talk) 18:13, 10 July 2014 (UTC))

No admin is forced to do anything; we are all volunteers. I haven't blocked an autoconfirmed editor in at least three years, for example. I don't choose to enforce the policy you speak of. Let the board do it. I'm sorry for your difficulty, but I don't approve of Jimbo taking an end run around the community, which did not vote for such a measure, and had the opportunity to. Let him enforce it. Since I never block (my time is mostly occupied with other things the community doesn't seem to object to), my stand is fairly weak tea in a way. But yes, I won't use my tools to enforce that part of the ToU, but then I'm not much of an enforcer. It would take too long to explain and I've got to gear up for a major TFA starting in a few hours, but I don't find the "university" case analogous. Your employer is entitled to your loyalty because you are paid. We are not paid, nor do we have any formal relationship with Wikipedia or the foundation, and the idea of a "conflict of interest" is thus, as far as I see it, not on point.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
thanks for taking a minute to reply; happy to continue if you have more time later and want to, but i am not making any demands. Jytdog (talk) 20:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Chrome

Nominated Chrome for FAC today, FYI: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/California Chrome/archive1. Grab your popcorn and watch the show. Montanabw(talk) 22:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom from Want (painting)/archive1

Please comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom from Want (painting)/archive1.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:14, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll be over there as soon as I can.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:19, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Bazy

Going to put Bazy Tankersley up for Peer Review; I'm sort of in a quandary as to what needs to actually be improved for FAC versus what would be cool to add, but not critical. Your comments welcomed! Montanabw(talk) 19:43, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

okay will do sorry it's fallen by the wayside a bit.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
No worries, I know you were thinking that we should add some material on the Congressional hearings and I was debating if more should go in on her charitable endeavors, particularly in education, but my mind sort of fried on everything... Montanabw(talk) 21:04, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: Babe Ruth

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Babe Ruth

Babe Ruth (1895–1948) was an American baseball outfielder and pitcher who played 22 seasons in Major League Baseball (MLB) from 1914 to 1935. Born in Baltimore, Ruth was sent at age seven to St. Mary's, a reformatory where he learned baseball skills. In 1914, Ruth was signed to play minor-league baseball for the Baltimore Orioles. He began his MLB career as a stellar left-handed pitcher for the Boston Red Sox, but achieved his greatest fame as a slugging outfielder for the New York Yankees. Ruth established many MLB batting (and some pitching) records, including 714 career home runs. In his fifteen years with the Yankees, Ruth helped them win seven American League pennants and four World Series championships. His big swing led to escalating home run totals that boosted baseball's popularity and made home runs a major factor in the sport. Ruth's unprecedented power and carousing lifestyle made him a larger-than-life figure in the "Roaring Twenties". One of the first five inductees into the National Baseball Hall of Fame, Ruth is regarded as one of the greatest sports heroes in American culture, and is considered by many to be the greatest baseball player of all time. (Full article...)

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"This article is about... Babe Ruth. That's about it, really." - another precious achievement, with a great line of a nomination, really ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
thank you very much sorry I overlooked your comment earlier.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Congrats on yet another FA! :) As always, great work! :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 07:10, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much and I hope you're doing well--Wehwalt (talk) 07:16, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
My congrats as well; another well-deserved recognition. Connormah (talk) 20:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you--Wehwalt (talk) 12:30, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Comments on Indefatigable FAC

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WP:ANI

You are being quoted at ANI [2] and thought you should know. You may or may not be interested in the topic, but the extent of the quoting justified notifying you. Dennis Brown |  | WER 21:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for that. I won't sully my hands with it. Auburnpilot wrote well.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:50, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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Mahan-class dstroyer review

An unfortunate event put me in the hospital for the last five days, so I have not been active in responding to your review. But I expect to resume soon. Thank you! - Pendright (talk) 21:22, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

No hurry, thank you for your service.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Disco Demolition Night:Wikilinks

Hi Wehwalt,

My removal of those Wikilinks from "Disco Demolition Night" was not meant to be taken as a personal criticism of you as an editor. In fact, I had no idea that you were the one who had added them. I was just being bold and making what I felt was a good faith attempt to improve the article. Moreover, I don't think there was anything particular in my edit sum that made it seem like I was complaining; I just explained what I did and cited the Wiki-guideline I was basing my edit on. Now, I still don't think it's really necessary to link those items twice and it seems like a bit of overkill to me, but differences in opinion among editors are nothing new on Wikipedia. Since you've reverted me once, I'd be more happy to continue this discussion (per WP:BRD) further on the article's talk page. That way others can offer their opinion as well if they so choose. Again nothing personal was meant by my edit. - Marchjuly (talk) 11:38, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I understand but it is far from an uncommon style. Perhaps complaining was not the best word.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
No worries. I learn something new each and everyday. Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da. Face-smile.svg - Marchjuly (talk) 12:04, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

The Music Man

If you have a moment, can you take a look at the most recent postings to The Music Man by user:KennethNewell? Perhaps you have a diplomatic and encouraging way to explain to him that, with respect to very popular musicals, we can't list every production, and that it is indeed our job and responsibility, as editors, to differentiate between those that should be described and those that should not. BTW, how's the wing? Back to all your old tricks? My leg is probably 90% now, and that's about where it will stay, but it does not interfere with any of my usual activities. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. The arm seems okay and I will see the orthopedist in a couple of weeks and hopefully he will give me a clean bill of health. I will look at the music man I'm familiar with the movie though I never saw the play.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:49, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

PR Request

Hi Wehwalt, I was wondering if you would be able to provide feedback on the article about Departures at its peer review. Mind, don't think one would want to book tickets for these departures' only destination... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:10, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay will get to it as soon as I can--Wehwalt (talk) 08:51, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Bottomley

Horatio Bottomley, Britain's version of Franklin Peale and Spiro Agnew combined, is awaiting his fate at FAC. Comments welcome. Brianboulton (talk) 20:52, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Hay

I see the axe has been busy; let me know when the bloodlust is abated, and I will begin my review. Many thanks for the Bizet photograph – may he and Benjamin rest in peace together. Brianboulton (talk) 07:28, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Weird goings on

Some strange things have happened in the last hour or so. Some links and functions have disappeared from my pages, and I think that my talkpage has ceased to receive messages - a test message from my wife's computer did not register. Can you, when you have a moment, send me a brief message, content important, so that I can check if my talk is working. (Add a note here when you send). I'll investigate the other problems. Thanks Brianboulton (talk) 23:09, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to trouble you again, but can you check my talk and tell me whether the archive box in the top right shows closed on your display? On mine I can't close anything. Brianboulton (talk) 19:09, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I see it as a little box saying "Archives show". When clicked it duly shows. Sorry I neglected to leave a note here when posting to your talk. It sounds very odd.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm glad to say that I have managed to reactivate almost all my missing features, including collapsing, missing links etc – what caused it all I don't know, but normal service now resumed. Thanks for your help. Brianboulton (talk) 10:01, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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Turned out nice again!

Evening Wehwalt, I come with begging bowl once again, for another SchroCat & Cassianto special. This time it's the PR for George Formby for which I'm hoping to gather comments, complaints and constructive suggestions. If you're able to visit I'd be extremely grateful—there's no rush on this at all. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 22:26, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I shall give it my usual scrutiny.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:29, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congrats on the Virginia-based TFA! As always, great work! :) - NeutralhomerTalk • 15:11, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Hope you're doing well.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

That WT:AN discussion

Hi Wehwalt, I'm a bit unhappy about your close here. I realise that things had meandered but Carolmooredc had made an extraordinary unsubstantiated claim of systemic bias and said that she had examples, which various other people (including me, Ryulong and Dennis Brown) were asking to see. Given that she seems to have a penchant for making sweeping statements (see the recent ArbCom case re: Austrian Economics) and then referring back to those in later discussions as if they were substantiated, is there any way that we can enable her to provide those diffs? - Sitush (talk) 06:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps ask her on her talk and when they are forthcoming begin a more focused discussion.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:26, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I understand what Sitush is saying, but I would have and have done similar. Timing was right. Carol's issues are larger than that one discussion and I'm confident she will find another venue to drag her tired ideas and unsubstantiated claims to. Dennis Brown |  | WER 12:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I know part of the idea was to pin down Carol but it's very hard to pin down somebody across a discussion as big as that. So it wasn't going to work.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:50, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, I disagree and my past experience of her is that she "gets away with murder", repeatedly, so I'm not as confident as Dennis. But I'll live with your opinion: sooner or later, she is going to be gone from here. I just wish it were sooner because she is a bloody nuisance. - Sitush (talk) 16:05, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot to add that apparently I am banned from her talk page. She went through a spell (probably still does, but I don't keep track) of banning everyone who disagreed with her, even those who were also disagreeing with those with whom she disagreed, if you see what I mean. I was neutral, seeing fault in both camps, but that didn't wash with her. I'd forgotten about the ban until I got to work today. - Sitush (talk) 16:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Sitush, I had plenty more to say as well, but trust me as I've been on the outside looking in before: Wehwalt did us a favor by shutting it down before it got honest. At that point, nothing said by you, her or I would have changed anyone's mind about anything. It was kind of funny for me as I'm usually the one doing the closing instead of being one of the finger pointers in the crowd. Dennis Brown |  | WER 16:51, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you. What a mess that thread had become. I think that thread has done tremendous damage to the gender gap and blame falls on both genders in the discussion. You put a tourniquet on it rather late, but that was way better than letting the patient bleed out.--v/r - TP 20:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks to all for your words. I find that waiting for exhaustion is a good way of making sure a close sticks. Not that I do it very often. But it tends to stick when I do.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:22, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Peer review

Hello Wehwalt! I'll be glad if you're available to give your feedback on Wikipedia:Peer review/Shahid Nadeem/archive1, thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 19:29, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

It will be several days, at minimum. I am very backlogged and also working on three different projects. If you don't mind waiting.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
No no, there's no rush. Just do it whenever you're free. Ping me then, thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 19:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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Absolutely on the mark

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For your comment: "We are here to build an encyclopedia, not sing Kumbaya, and this is a shop floor." — Exactly right. Exactly. I'm stealing that!!! Carrite (talk) 21:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. That being said, I wish Eric would tone it down. But I don't think blocking him does anything positive.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:00, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Bread Winners PR

I will get to it. At present I'm up to my ears with Formby, and I've promised Ian I'll help with the backlog of sources reviews at FAC (and I'll do Hay's at the same time). So it may be a couple of days before I can review Hay's masterpiece. One suggestion for the first line: I'd describe it as a "novel" first, then as a "book" – you currently have it the other way round. Brianboulton (talk) 15:07, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. There is no hurry. I am grateful for whatever time you can spare.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:12, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Indian Head cent

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Thank you for your patience.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:21, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

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Since you commented at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom of Worship (painting)/archive1, I thought you might want to comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Freedom from Want (painting)/archive1 since the latter is a far more notable painting and the FAC has no comments after over 3 weeks.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

I will. I saw it on the list and had been meaning to get to it but am still catching up with stuff. I'll get to it next few days. Thanks for the heads up.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:32, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

More perils of the deep

Now that you are safe on dry land, I feel it's OK to ask you to comment on another tale of watery peril, although with a happier ending this time: Noye's Fludde awaits at peer review. Brianboulton (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Of course. He had the ultimate cruise trip, no?--Wehwalt (talk) 15:16, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Wish I had such ideas ;) - instead of looking at the cruise, I started an article which wasn't even linked but a red link in my very first article, - my user turned 5 now! (My infobox told me, I confess I had forgotten.) Noye: same old question, replace the redundant side navebox with something about the piece in question? There are examples for Britten's compositions, for example Mont Juic and Missa Brevis. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps the article talk page might attract more eyes to the discussion.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:01, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Exactly, also the PR, - trying to avoid that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

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A London memento

File:Wehwalt the centurion.jpg A memento from London, June 2014. If you want to delete this, I won't be at all offended! Brianboulton (talk) 16:31, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

It's not me at my best, as those bags under my eyes are fortunately gone, and I suspect by then I had taken some good red wine on board. I think I'll let it stand. Thank you very much.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:36, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment for ye

I know you've been doing commemoratives recently, but I must say 1933 double eagle looks like a fascinating subject. 7.6 million dollars for a coin that is otherwise illegal for anyone but the US government to own? Wow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:31, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

There's some coverage of it in Saint-Gaudens double eagle. I know there's at least one book, and the court case was recent enough that it should be available in online stuff. And I'll look at the literature tables when I go to the ANA convention this week. Might be something I can do without a lot of paper, while I'm traveling for example.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:16, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Now that's an article. Well, if you're interested in it (and we've certainly got the pictures Face-wink.svg) I'll be happy to PR and review at FAC. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:10, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I'll put it on the list.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:17, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
  • There's a book on it I saw at one of the booths at the ANA convention, which I am at. However, it was much cheaper secondhand on Amazon so I ordered it that way. I've bought one coin, three medals, and six books. So it goes.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
  • And taken several images as well? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:47, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Yup. I will start the work of uploading tonight. I just wished I had the nerve to ask the auction house to turn over a couple of the expensive coins (Panama Pacific $50)!--Wehwalt (talk) 00:00, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Now that's a pretty coin. Octagonal... I didn't even know the US used such designs. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:26, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • They never circulated, except for in the days of the California Gold Rush. The octagonal commemorative was a shout out to that. Got some pictures of the early ones, at least one side of them.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:29, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Indeed, a very beautiful coin. Still haven't had much luck getting good-quality coins to photograph myself. These are already very scratched. Of course, they aren't really made of the proper materials. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:42, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • These are worth in the high five to low six figures. Accordingly, I'm leery of making any requests of the auction company which is displaying them.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:48, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I did buy a 1936 Oregon Trail Memorial half dollar. With all the writing I've done about that coin, I figured I should own one. Also a cheap three-cent nickel, ditto. The rest was mostly numismatic reference materials. The dealers are hiring locals to line up all night to buy the new gold Kennedy half dollar and from what I hear people are doubling their money. The only thing is, you can also buy it on the Mint's website, and the only difference is that it will be authenticated by the grading services as being one of the 2,500 sold at the show. I'm figuring that market will crash fairly quickly. The whole thing is mad, in my view. People were even lining up for the base-metal set for $8.95. As both are unlimited mintage, I don't see much money in it over the long term. It's at a huge suburban convention center with tons of hotels around and there's at least two other conventions going on simultaneously.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:17, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Isn't part of the draw the fact that the fifty-cent piece isn't quite as widely circulated as other denominations? Same reason the Canadian fifty-cent piece dries up quickly: people horde it thinking it's rare. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:00, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Yeah, but the Kennedy has always had a mystique about it. I took a couple of photos of the line, check my commons contributions.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For your work on the excellent John Hay which has now passed FA. Congratulations! Cassiantotalk 04:43, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you indeed.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:36, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Noye business (like shoye business)

I wonder, could you spare a moment to revisit the PR and give your opinion on an issue raised by the redoubtable SchroCat?

(I am working on The Bread-winners) Brianboulton (talk) 09:32, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

This is to advise you and other peer reviewers that Noye's Fludde has been nominated at FAC, and that any further comments should be raised there. Brianboulton (talk) 17:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you be my mentor please

Please. I have done so many violations on it that I need help fixing my mistakes. People are kinda worried because I'm not suppose to create categories. Maybe you could speak on my behalf. I'm wondering if you what categories are suitable to create and not suitable to create. I'm not banned yet you see; I just can't create categories I do have some mental health issues. Please? Venustar84 (talk) 04:06, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

I would like to help but don't do much with categories. Please feel free to drop in for friendly advice, though.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:16, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
Please call me by my first name Kristine. Here is a category I'm not sure if I should have created in the first place: Category:People_from_Lake_Laberge Venustar84 (talk) 04:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't deal with categories so I really can't help you there. I add one or two to articles and leave the rest for other people.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

The Bread-Winners has been nominated for Did You Know

Pierce

Great job so far. I wish I had some colorful input, but all I have to say is "Yep. Yep. Exactly." —Designate (talk) 03:08, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. It is going more slowly than I would like, but I'm distracted by a lot of things. I have to go to Chicago today and can only bring my iPad, with the Holt book on it, but I'll be back late Friday.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:11, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
That Boulard source seems to be from a vanity press (iUniverse). —Designate (talk) 15:23, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
I guess the question then becomes if Boulard's credentials are good enough. It's very footnoted. He's got an article, Garry Boulard.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi there, Wehwalt asked me to weigh in. I see that the book has been cited twice (link) according to Google Scholar, though for some reason that page does not include this journal article. Don't see any reviews of the book in Jstor, or citations. As mentioned in the article on Boulard, the book is listed as a "selected biography" by the LOC (the other sites mentioned in Boulard's article should, obviously, not be taken into consideration). Personally, I'm tentatively thinking it may be enough of an RS to include, at the very least for non-controversial information and Boulard's own opinions. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:22, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

John Hay

I have two images planned for Hay, but since you just featured the article, I'd best run them past you.


First off, I'd like to switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lincoln_and_his_secretaries.tiff for a somewhat cleaned up version of http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.19421/ - there's a lot more detail in the Library of Congress copy.

Secondly, what do you think of http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3f06265/ as a replacement lead image? The current one is rather low resolution.

Cheers, Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:08, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

First is fine. Second, I'm not so sure of because of the deep shadow that seems to obscure Hay on the left side of his face.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:41, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
I think the image was scanned a bit dark; I think the shadow will lift a fair bit with a little adjustment. Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
I've put it into the article, though I don't mind if you undo and put it further down. When I see an FA in the Signpost, I tend to check if there's any high-quality images either in the article or available. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Getting in the way of Lord S's runway slot

Jules Massenet, the second greatest composer born in 1842, is now at FAC. If you have time and disposition to look in, it will be esteemed a favour. Tim riley talk 21:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you! (2)

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For your featured list candidate. I thought about doing a scathing parody of More popular than Jesus, where Jesus is Jimbo, John Lennon is Eric, Maureen Cleave is someone like Drmies ... but I'll probably never get round to it Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:32, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Thankee, thankee. I broke open a bottle of good Argentinian red wine last night, and that was the upshot. In vino veritas.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Veritas: I recommended a stroll in our wine region. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Wise words indeed.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:57, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
found inspiration for a signature at Iridescent: --incredibly toxic personality --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:47, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Aren't we all. And if that is the criteria for a ban, I suppose the question is, are God-Kings exempted from that?--Wehwalt (talk) 11:52, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Can you create a category? Blue, because, as Bish said, red is silly, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
As noted above, I don't do much with categories.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:19, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Fritz Duquesne

You helped me a while back on the Frederick Russell Burnham article, so I wondered if you still assess articles? I've been updating Fritz Joubert Duquesne and I think it's ready for GA review. Thanks. Ctatkinson (talk) 00:00, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but due to travel it could be a few days.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:50, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
No rush. Thanks for your help.Ctatkinson (talk) 15:38, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. I'm going to get started on addressing the issues. Ctatkinson (talk) 15:56, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Your comments were very helpful. I've made the changes you recommended, and tightened both the prose and sourcing. Let me know if there is anything else.Ctatkinson (talk) 20:40, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Any further thoughts/changes, or is it ready for GA?Ctatkinson (talk) 04:35, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
A helpful hint for future reference: Downloading the TIFF of the lead image from the Library of Congress will cause a massive increase in resolution. You will likely need to then convert it to JPEG. Don't worry about it this time, though; I'm going to do a restoration. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:14, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Adam. That image was last uploaded and improved a few years ago. Any other changes? Ctatkinson (talk) 12:35, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
I really didn't have anything at this stage.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Indian Head cent

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Another one for the review queue

Following your very valuable and appreciated comments on George Formby, we have now taken the article to FAC. Should you have a little time, any further comments would be nmuch appreciated. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:59, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you be my mentor please

Please. I have done so many violations on it that I need help fixing my mistakes. People are kinda worried because I'm not suppose to create categories. Maybe you could speak on my behalf. I'm wondering if you what categories are suitable to create and not suitable to create. I'm not banned yet you see; I just can't create categories I do have some mental health issues. Please Venustar84 (talk) 13:55, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I answered your question about that above.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:12, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

An an-noye-ing request

Could you possibly revist the Noye FAC and provide an image review? Should be a straightforward matter. Brianboulton (talk) 22:23, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Smithsonian

Hi Wehwalt- I'm in DC this week and have passed on your wishlist. They seem to be much more possessive over their coins than they are over paper currency. I'll keep you posted...-Godot13 (talk) 21:42, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you much. Appreciate it.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Okay, good news and bad news: I was able to get Smithsonian-made images of about half (maybe more) of your wishlist. Bad news is that average file size is 1000x1000. Looks like I am going to have to take up coin photography to be able to get the really detailed shots. They didn't have any images of a Type II Three-cent silver, so I sandwiched one in mylar and scanned it... I've never dealt with coin images, should I upload each side as a separate image?--Godot13 (talk) 22:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Many thanks for your help. Yes, coin photography is tricky. They had setups at the ANA convention for sale, but I don't often take photographs of my own pieces so it didn't seem worth the money (lowest was $185) Very happy for whatever you got. Looking forward to seeing them. Envy you having the opportunity to see their stuff up close.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:41, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Even as a coin neophyte, I was able to appreciate some of the objects I got to hold... I'll work on some of their images over the weekend and, worst case, will simply upload the raw images (each side individually per Crisco above)-Godot13 (talk) 00:07, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
  • What an opportunity indeed... :) Wish the Indonesian government were as willing to work towards a free compendium of knowledge. Satriamandala Museum's photographic collection would be a godsend. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:18, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

First installment... 1804

1804 Class I (obv) 1804 Class I (rev)

1804 Class II (obv) 1804 Class II (rev)

1804 Class III (obv) 1804 Class III (rev)

ping--Godot13 (talk) 01:31, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

P.S. I got the image for the unique Brasher half-doubloon. It's about the same quality as the 1804 images. Could that form the impetus for an article?--Godot13 (talk) 01:39, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

I need to consult my references and see what they have on it. Those should be a help, thanks. I took pictures of the doubloon at the ANA convention, but I haven't uploaded that one yet, and of course it is with an iPhone through glass, so it won't be as good!--Wehwalt (talk) 02:23, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Okay. I should have the "Half-Union" 1877 $50 gold and the 1849 $20 gold image up by early this weekend.--Godot13 (talk) 03:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Excellent, thanks. I've got company this weekend but I should find time to review the sources soon. Breen must talk about the half doubloon.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
  • I just looked at Breen. He talks enough about it for a stub. I do not have many references on colonial coins, but I can make a stub and do more research next time I go to the ANA library in Colorado Springs, which might late this fall, once the stoners clear out of Colorado! I'll leaf though the tons of articles I got from the library in Jan 2013, I vaguely remember getting something on the doubloon, that might mention it. That won't be until next week though. The half union will be very helpful too. I'll put images of the 1804 in appropriate articles as well. I'll insert the 1849 once it is up in Liberty Head double eagle, which is already FA. We can use it as the main page photo when it runs TFA, I'll look for an excuse to put it up soon. Crisco, I got a book in on the 1933 double eagle.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:35, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Might be worth upgrading the article on the 1804 dollar too. In the meantime, I added the Type I obverse to Draped Bust dollar, a FA, one of RHM22's.--Wehwalt (talk) 08:51, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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Second installment... 1877

Hi Wehwalt-

Half-union (obv) Half-union (rev)


I'll let you do the honors of adding these to the article.-Godot13 (talk) 08:01, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. That article could stand some improving too.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:00, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
My attempt at using a scanner to image the Type II 3-cent silver just isn't going to cut it. I have a call out to a friend/coin dealer who is going to try and obtain a high res image (as I know this was one of your priority coins for writing the article)... A few day perhaps.-Godot13 (talk) 13:19, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
There's no hurry. I was thinking about bringing (at least digitally) my references on a trip next month if I have the images in hand. Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:59, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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You are welcome. A little unusual to have an FA run as a DYK.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:15, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for California Diamond Jubilee half dollar

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Third installment... 1849

1849 $20 (obv) 1849 $20 (rev) If the descriptions need tweaking (which I'm sure they do) have at it...-Godot13 (talk) 04:21, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

No, they look fine. Thank you! I have added the obverse to the article (which I think came out very well). Now, I notice that the image seems to be the same as that listed here. I had been aware of these, and consulted with Crisco 1492 as to whether we can assume these are government taken, and so PD. He suggested I hold off on using them. I think now we can. So I think you've been greatly helpful in more ways than one, and so thanks again.--Wehwalt (talk) 07:41, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
I've already added a couple to Indian Head eagle, that were formerly scans of paper illustrations.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:31, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Glad to be of help! I recall that initial exchange and sent them an email about the web images prior to my last trip. They never responded, and I didn't explicitly follow up. May I suggest using the same exact wording and linking for the permission (attribution) section of the image file (i.e., National Numismatic Collection, National Museum of American History, with both of these linked), they felt strongly on that...-Godot13 (talk) 02:17, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
P.S. - One image they gave me is of a 1793 half cent. The obverse is good, the reverse is not totally sharp, but the file size is 1800x1800... Don't know if a bad reverse trashes the obverse use...-Godot13 (talk) 02:27, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll copy from your uploads before Indian Head Eagle goes main page in a couple of days. Sure, why not? I am not sure when I am going to get to the half cents, I don't own the specialized references on that, but having the images makes it possible, even if one side is poor. Thanks again.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:38, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Also

It seems you're also a numismatics guy... I see mention of scrip used by the North American Phalanx but was unable to find anything on the internets. Any idea whether any of this still exists and where I might be able to locate an image if it does? Carrite (talk) 00:51, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Probably one of the more specialized scripology societies. I'm hopeful that I will go to the American Numismatic Association Library either in November or December, if so, I will look into it, but it's not quite their sort of thing. Also you might want to look for an appropriate thread on cointalk.com, which is the biggest coin discussion site. Or start one there.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Greeley

Greeley definitely needs to be done. I think I need to do Charles Fourier instead, since that would tie in to the pile of books I've got sitting next to my chair at the moment. Just found a 1872 campaign pamphlet on the LoC site and uploaded that to Archive.org (and put up a link). I had no idea he was the MAIN opponent of Grant in 1872; the Southern-oriented Ds hated Grant's guts so much that they backed the more radical Greeley over him in that election. Whacky! I've never really collaboratively written anything with anybody. Probably best if you just slam away at it and I will chip in a little when you're through. Greeley is a very interesting person, but I don't really have the sources on hand nor sufficient expertise to do much beyond get in your way. Best, —Tim /// Carrite (talk) 00:48, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Plus I'd like it if you would look for images (political cartoons are always good), clean up after me, so to speak, and generally look over things as I do them. I probably won't get started until the middle of September. I'm off on a trip and am taking three books on Greeley plus two more on my iPad mini. But I will have limited internet. We'll discuss ways and means closer to the time.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

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and in case you don't otherwise spot it, poor ol' William McKinley will again come under attack, of a different sort, on September 6 - if you had a better date in mind for this article, do let me know. Best wishes, BencherliteTalk 21:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

It's as good as any, I suppose. Hope you are doing well, and I have fond memories of our time together. I told quite a few people on the ship about it.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:58, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. That time seems long ago already... Lots of people away from work during August but I'm battling on after a lovely 2 weeks exploring the Rhineland, only realizing after my return that perhaps I should have asked Gerda Arendt for tips of what to see in the area! BencherliteTalk 12:08, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
In addition, it may interest you to know that Mr Benjamin gets a prominent mention in the display inside the (UK) Supreme Court about the history of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council; and today I got an invitation to purchase the 9th edition of "Benjamin on Goods" for the mere price of £665.60 (combined print and e-book versions). No thanks... BencherliteTalk 13:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Quite understandable. I visited his grave in Paris. He was certainly an amazing man. I'm thinking of TFA for his birthday next August, which is about the 150th anniversary of his UK arrival.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:50, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Do you want to add it to WP:TFARP, lest we forget? Any other TFARP dates in mind for other things? Congratulations on another FA, by the way - it seems a bit unnecessary giving you a {{FA congrats}} when you've been at TFAR longer than I have! I know I owe you my thoughts and I'll try and get you something tomorrow, or later this week. The school summer holidays are almost over and life might then go back to normal! BencherliteTalk 13:59, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. There is no hurry as I am roaming again (the last time this year, it appears). I'll add it to the template. I've got William H. Seward at PR, and on the assumption it pushes through, I'm going to be proposing it for April 14, 2015, the 150th anniversary of the assassination plot that wounded Seward and killed Lincoln (unless someone gets a major Lincoln article through, of course). I'm going to propose it as a back to back with Andrew Johnson (April 15, 150th anniversary of accession as President). If you, or someone thinks that is too much Wehwalt, well, I shan't greatly complain.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:07, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Pierce article

Wehwalt- I added an image two days ago and was unaware that the article was mid-FA review. I would have bounced it off you first. If the image is not helpful please remove it.--Godot13 (talk) 16:16, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

It's fine, thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Margaret Bondfield

It's all politics at the moment: Margaret Bondfield now at peer review. No particular hurry, as I shall be away for a week from Saturday, but please take and look and comment if you can. Brianboulton (talk) 17:01, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Will do.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:18, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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Some help

Hey Wehwalt. Do you have some spare time these days to provide input at Thirteen's peer review? A friend of mine is trying to get WP:FOUR on that article, and your expertise would be more than welcomed.--Retrohead (talk) 09:44, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll look at it, but due to travel and also promised other reviews, it could be several days.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:54, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Request

Will do.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:51, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you right kindly. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:48, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Margaret Bondfield

Just thank you for your PR help and let you know that I have nominated Miss B. at WP:FAC. Brianboulton (talk) 19:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

You were involved previously, so ping

Talk:John_Walsh_(U.S._politician)#Plagiarism_allegations_redux. Montanabw(talk) 03:25, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Pierce

Great work on another successful collaboration. I added him and John Tyler to WP:TFARP on their respective birthdays. —Designate (talk) 15:10, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

well done indeed what are your views on Van Buren he was quite a man in his time.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:08, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
He seems more consequential than the others I've worked on. I'm up for it. —Designate (talk) 02:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Well go ahead if you like and will do our standard routine--Wehwalt (talk) 02:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

On a related subject, Wehwalt and Designate, Ostend Manifesto is coming up as TFA in October for its 160th anniversary and as its FAC nominator is inactive, I wondered whether either or both of you might be able to give it a quick check. Any assistance appreciated. Thanks, BencherliteTalk 23:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I am traveling again and don't have my Pierce sources with me. I'll look it over and perhaps pull a JSTOR article or two if I can find something useful. It might take me a few days, I am back at sea.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:48, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm not objecting but "With slaves counting as three-fifths of a person, the population would have been considered 844,734 for determining Congressional apportionment." seems like OR or original synthesis to me. —Designate (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
If it is basically arithmetic, I don't consider it OR--Wehwalt (talk) 07:21, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for United States Sesquicentennial coinage

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Scalia

Thanks for the coding fix. Gonna create a personal life section as there are bits about this everywhere and it just needs its own section.--Aichik (talk) 17:32, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

I guess ... I cut off the bio section when he became justice as I do for many officeholders. I'll wait to see what you come up with. Don't say where he lives beyond "Northern Virginia".--Wehwalt (talk) 22:16, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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Seward

I had this scanned so I cleaned it up...--Godot13 (talk) 00:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks, will add it in the next few.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:21, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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Weird stuff

Some weird fight is occurring on the Historicity of Jesus. To be honest, I don't have time to dig into this issue, but I trust you as an editor to be fair on controversial articles and to help sort things out. People are now going to reddit to enlist help with this article [3], which I am afraid will lead to more craziness. Anyway, I thought you may have ideas on how best to resolve this. Remember (talk) 13:39, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't have time right now but when I can I will look in.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:14, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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Help with sources

I was wondering if you knew how I might get access to a journal article that's been eluding me. I have limited JSTOR access, but this one's not among the journals included:

  • Thomas B. Colbert, "Disgruntled 'Chronic Office Seeker' or Man of Political Integrity: James Baird Weaver and the Republican Party in Iowa, 1857-1877," Annals of Iowa, vol. 49 (1988), pp. 187–207.

Worse comes to worse, I can buy a back issue from the publisher, but if rather not spend the money if it could be avoided.

Thanks, --Coemgenus (talk) 12:24, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't see it on JSTOR and I checked the other likely databases I have access through ... sorry. Looks like an interesting fellow though. You don't happen to have a JSTOR number or similar?--Wehwalt (talk) 16:06, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
I don't. Perhaps it doesn't have one? Well, I may be able to get at it if I can get alumni access my old college library. We'll see. Thanks anyway. And good luck with Seward, I'll come by and comment if it hasn't passed before I get the chance. --Coemgenus (talk) 22:54, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

a man who had an incredible career

"This article is about... John Hay, a man who had an incredible career." Thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:52, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. Quite a man.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:34, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Congratulations. Designate (talk) 13:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:25, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Ol' Bill.

If you don't know who this is, no caption will help you. Or, if you aren't the person who raised this to FA (Hi, talk page stalkers!), it's William H. Seward.

You'll be happy to note the first restoration is (finally!) done. It was... moderately fiendish. Lots and lots of little dust specks. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

He looks like a human, at least. Thank you for doing that. I am totally unskilled at all things photographic, whether taking them beyond point and click or doing stuff with it.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
I like to do try and get featured pictures for an interesting featured article. It gets it another go on the mainpage. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:51, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Iva Withers

Withers died on October 7. I've expanded the article using a couple of obituaries and some other references, but the timeline for her from 1940 to 1945 is a little confusing. Right now, I've got: She moved to New York in 1940 to study singing "so she could improve her voice when she performed in church". She spent 7 months in 1942 in wartime England searching for her brother and boyfriend, both of whom turned out to have been killed.[2][3] She returned to New York to audition for roles on Broadway, shortening her name to Iva Withers. About 1943, she was hired by Rodgers and Hammerstein in the ensemble and soon understudied the leading soprano roles in Oklahoma! and Carousel. So, it would be great if we could add more clarity about the following:

  • What did she do between 1940 and 1942?
  • Did she have any roles before R&H hired her?
  • When, exactly, did they hire her, and what was her first role? IBDB indicates that she was in the opening night cast of Carousel in April 1945 in the chorus; but it appears that she already been in the chorus of Oklahoma!"?
  • Then, when did she move up to understudy and finally move into her first starring role as a replacement?

When you have a chance, see if you can shed any more light on this. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:11, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving it here, won't forget. Traveling at present but will be home Sunday.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:55, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
OK, you solved the last question, and thanks for sending info on the children, etc. No rush. Looking forward to what you can dig up next week on the period from 1940 to 1945. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:59, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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In case you hadn't heard, this is now a featured picture. I'm thinking James Tyler when I'm ready for my next challenge, or possibly that Nicolay-Lincoln-Hay image. Both will be much nicer images when done, but, eh... daguerreotypes are often somewhat horrible, and Pierce is at the low end of that. Probably because it's so damn early. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:47, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Oh, damn my eyes! I just realised a way to improve it massively. Time for a delist and replace! Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:58, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Gough Whitlam at TFAR

Hello again - as you'll probably spot from a "ping", I've started the ball rolling at WT:TFAR and I've left pointers on some randomly chosen user talk pages (plus talk:GW and WT:FAC) in an attempt to drag people in. BencherliteTalk 08:55, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Hoping to beat the rush

I am glad to have seen this edit on my watchlist, thrilled at your accomplishment, and honored to congratulate you directly. By the way, amongst your email is one from me. I suspect you'll have many more, but none more eager to review your reply. With esteem.—John Cline (talk) 00:55, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you indeed. I will send you a copy (Google Drive) as soon as it arrives.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:58, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Oy! Watch it!

I'm sure this was unintentional. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 07:12, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I shall watch assiduously.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:37, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-10-29/Featured_content

Could you skim over the writeup of Seward and make sure I didn't get anything wrong? Feel free to rewrite or trim - I think it's actually more detailed than Seward's writeup for FA, but then, I don't do FAs most of the time. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:59, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Grant

Hi, in case you weren't aware, Ulysses S. Grant is at MilHist A-Class Review and would I'm sure benefit from your comments if you have a chance. I'll probably stop by too at some stage but I expect your subject knowledge is far superior to mine so it will work better if you go first... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:55, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Certainly, once I've caught up with other work. Should be some time during the coming week.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:04, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Review stuff

I trust that chez Wehwalt is safe from the elements. To your lengthening list of review requests, may I respectfully add Wikipedia:Peer review/Ellen Wilkinson/archive1? She was certainly a feisty lady – gave poor Neville a hard time, for sure. Any comments most welcome. Brianboulton (talk) 23:03, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Well, thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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"Someone's written an article on The Split", and today's featured article

Hi, Wehwalt.
That would have been me.
I like to think I write good little stubs like that one that fill in the gaps between the good major articles.

My heart is in the coffin there with Caesar,
And I must pause till it comes back to me.

Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:04, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

It needed writing. Well done.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

PR request

Hi Wehwalt, I was wondering if you could take the time to review September Morn, which is up for review at Wikipedia:Peer review/September Morn/archive1. As this article has been controversial in the past, I'd understand if you didn't feel up to it. Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:49, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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  • Well done Wehwalt. Thanks for contributing great content. Drmies (talk) 16:51, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Support! Nice to meet Meeker again ;) - Drmies, nothing in Dutch yet? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
thanks to both of you.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:25, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Whitlam

Would you like to have first go at knocking together a blurb for 5th November? No need to create a TFAR nom for it. Sorry for the brevity of this note but it is long past bedtime! BencherliteTalk 00:48, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Certainly, I'll put something together once my own head clears!--Wehwalt (talk) 11:07, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I've tried something at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 5, 2014 which you are welcome to play around with, although it's at 1,170 characters so there's very little room to add anything without taking something else away. I thought the bust picture might be more representative of him than the lead image of him in the 1950s - what do you think? BencherliteTalk 14:12, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
I agree. Good quality freebie images of Whitlam in his PM years or thereabout are hard to find. I went through what the Nixon library had and every single one of them was really focused on Nixon, with Whitlam usually turning profile or similar. He also visited under Ford, but I don't think those images were available then. I'm sure the blurb is fine but may tweak it.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:59, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
And on the subject of Nixon, I've just added his nomination to Wikipedia:Today's featured article oddities#The one with the most points - one record that will now never be broken! BencherliteTalk 15:38, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
I was planning to break it with John A. Macdonald, which would have been 12 (bicent of birth next January, vital article, 2 year FA). Didn't that guy who used to be ChrisO tie Nixon with one of his? Thank you for running Mr. Whitlam. I think he deserves it. I don't truly "get" Australian politics but he lived almost forty years after being the only Aussie PM to be fired by the GG, and never backed down an inch (2.54cm). And he changed an Australia in need of changing (it is still evolving, I've been there five times between 1988 and 2011, and it has changed a great deal). But thanks again. I see this as an exceptional case, like the other exceptions you've allowed, and not as precedent. I saw the comment on "delayed" and so forth and I don't think the words have any different implication, so no objection.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:10, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
<nods in agreement> Can you think what the article was? If so I'll have a hunt through the history to find it. BencherliteTalk 01:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Don't remember offhand, will search myself when I get a chance. Might have been a canal or railway.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:42, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm going through the history anyway and retrospectively creating nomination archives for everything since I started (and am into April/May 2013 at present), and on the way I've found Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Richard Wagner with 11 points as well. I'm severely disappointed that Macdonald is also called "Richard" to keep the pattern going... BencherliteTalk 23:49, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Well, given he was Scottish by birth, "Richard" always seems a name more common a little further south of there.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:55, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Theatre help

I know your a very busy person, but I'm looking for your help again. Specifically with writing critical reception sections for Made in Dagenham (musical) & Sunny Afternoon (musical). I asked for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Theatre#Made_in_Dagenham_Musical but no one has replied. I enjoyed collaborating with you on From Here to Eternity the Musical and was wondering if you would help again. I am beyond poor at writing these and feel they need a critical reception section to round them off, before I look at expanding further.Blethering Scot 21:12, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I will help but I'm a bit behind right now.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:53, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. I honestly will appreciate any help you can give, when you get some time. Thanks again. Blethering Scot 12:41, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

A Handful of Dust

I hope all is well in the realms of Wehwalt. Next Thursday we will be drinking your health in the Kings Cross bar that we have renamed in your honour – wish you could join us. In the meantime, if you have the time and energy to look at the above article, I've opened a peer review, here. Any comment would be appreciated. Brianboulton (talk) 23:34, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Regretfully no though I will be there in spirits. I'm not planning London until next September, though that may change. I will look it over the next couple of days.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:26, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Oliver Bosbyshell and / or John A. Macdonald

Hi Wehwalt, just to remind you that you added these articles to WP:TFARP a while ago and they're now within the open date range at WP:TFAR if you still want to nominate them. Best wishes, BencherliteTalk 12:25, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Dizzy front page

What ho! You'll have been pung by Bencherlite. I'm completely biddable on the matter, and I happily appoint you Lord High Decider. Tim riley talk 11:32, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

I've replied on his talk.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:43, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

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Re: Oregon Trail Memorial half dollar

What a wonderful article! Thank you for your work on this entry, and congrats on the Main Page appearance! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:19, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

And looking forward to when WP:Numismatrics takes on Capped Bust and Flowing Hair! :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:21, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
That's when the specialized reference books that are going to be needed and that I don't own come into play ... also we are short on images. But thanks. Oregon Trail's something of my baby, since I wrote two of the references.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:08, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
  • A second journal article? Way to go! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:00, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Cover story in this month's Numismatist.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:52, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
  • *whistle* That deserves a beer! (Sending Canadian beer telepathically) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:56, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you. I got the check, which is nice.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:21, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Greeley

Nice to see you taking him up - that's an article that's needed help for a while. If you're looking for a lede image, I raised the issue with Adam Cuerden a while back: [4] Connormah (talk) 22:59, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I've left a note for him here.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:33, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Ah, and if I may, my (much) belated congrats on the Seward FA. Another fine article. Connormah (talk) 00:11, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. I seem to have moved on to the Civil War from the Gilded Age.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:20, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Any other future prospects? Connormah (talk) 20:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Not sure yet. I was at GMU library and didn't see anyone who particularly took my fancy, but when I return the Greeley books (hopefully next week) I will look again.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:30, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

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Horace Greeley

Hi. I have been following your rewrite of the Horace Greeley article, and while most of the edits appear very beneficial, I rather disapprove of your removal of the 'Legacy and cultural references' section. Although many Wikipedia editors may feel that such a section appears unprofessional in a Wikipedia article, especially biographical articles, I strongly believe that such sections are important and interesting to readers. That opinion stems from my personal interest in the influences and legacies of such people. As well, this content removal is technically unjustified as it is removal of encyclopedic content, and I don't believe there are any guidelines or policies against the inclusion of 'legacy and influences' sections.

The information can be slimmed down to only mention important or significant influences, or instead it can be integrated into the rest of the text with a legacy section omitted. That section also included other useful pieces of information; e.g. the section on Greeley's death mentions the location, but the legacy section elaborates on the site, the building, and its current use.

Let me know what you think.--ɱ (talk · vbm) 20:02, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

What I often do in such cases is restore the text in its own article, thus Tributes to Horace Greeley and then prominently link it, say at the top of the Appraisal section (which is sort of like legacy). And perhaps a paragraph about the tributes to him in the main article, again in Appraisal, mentioning the two NYC statues, Greeley Square, that sort of thing. Having a lengthy section, I find, tends to attract unsourced trivia.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Well, as long as that text is present in the Horace Greeley article or a sub-article like Tributes to Horace Greeley, then I'm happy. And lengthy sections aren't always bad, but including less-notable things makes other editors think it's okay to add very unnotable instances. As well, I've often found that as long as the information is written in substantial paragraphs using formal prose, citations, and photographs, people won't be tempted to mess that up as much. Anyway, I still suggest adding some of the Pace University information into the section on his death.--ɱ (talk · vbm) 20:26, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, will do on all counts. Right now I'm proofreading.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:45, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

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Lafayette

Hi Wehwalt, I know its a busy season, but the FAC for Lafayette has quite a few comments. Since I noticed you've been active recently, I was wondering if you had just missed the comments. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:25, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I plan to catch up by the weekend. I've been busy with other things, I'm afraid.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:31, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Alrighty. Hoping that it's a third article in The Numismatist Face-wink.svg — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Can't find the source material, or haven't looked yet. No, doing reading on my next project, plus the usual end of year rush.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

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Jena Six

Just noticing this, but Jena Six#Members.27 subsequent activities seems to be excessively detailed and veering deeply into WP:DIRT territory. Given the length of time which has past, do you think the great detail is really relevant to the Jena Six matter? This section almost seems like it could be given in a paragraph for each at best. Doesn't seem to meet NPOV to me, but I am not too familiar with the case. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I agree, since we don't know (and don't greatly care) what they are doing today, the section you speak of could be shrunk.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:08, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Does the presence of the suggestion remain relevant to the Jena Six case? I would argue that it does not. When reading, it stood out and I actually wondered how recent the FA was because of it. At the time of 2008, it certainly was recent likely pertinent. Though six years later, the Jena Six issue is resolved and the right to fade back into private life seems largely complete. It could pose a BLP concern, but I don't want to go removing it all because the schooling and graduation seem at best relevant and basic. None of these little run-ins with the law add to the article and instead serve to detract from their images even though the events are unrelated to the famous case. Where do you stand on it? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 00:22, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
I think the details could be cut somewhat but at least some of the violations of law, especially the violent ones, should stay due to the relationship with the subject matter of the article.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:29, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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I had to squeeze the text down to about 1200 characters; was there anything I left out you'd like to see put back in? - Dank (push to talk) 21:49, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I tweaked it thanks--Wehwalt (talk) 22:04, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I'll see your tweak, and raise. - Dank (push to talk) 00:57, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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You too, of course. Hoping to get to Oklahoma! once my one-year term at GMU on history articles expires in April.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Firstly, AFD is not actually required to weigh in before an article that isn't properly compliant with our policies can be redirected to a related topic; that can be done on sight by anybody who chooses to do so without needing any special permission. AFD can decide to redirect, but it's not required to take an article to AFD before any article can ever be redirected. I opted to take it to AFD first as a courtesy, because one of the other band members was already up for discussion at the same time — but Wikipedia policy does not require me to have done so if all I was proposing was a redirect rather than outright deletion.

Secondly, a no-consensus/WP:NPASR close on an AFD is not a "failure" of the nomination — especially when that lack of consensus wasn't because any disagreement was actually expressed in the discussion, but because not a single person even participated at all after two successive relists. So it's not necessary to take it to DRV for "overturning", either. Rather, the options would be (a) to relist it yet again, or (b) since policy doesn't actually require it to have been nominated for redirection in the first place, to just go ahead and redirect it. And since the one band member whose nomination did generate actual discussion also ended with a redirection for exactly the same reasons that were applicable to Rousseau, there was simply no need to opt for A instead of B.

You're still welcome to try to improve the article to make a better case that he gets over WP:NMUSIC in his own right, but I did not act improperly. Bearcat (talk) 16:30, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't question your good faith but I think you need to build consensus for this someplace or other. I think Rousseau has had far more life outside the band than Told, so the question is not the same. And while primary sources are used in part, they are reliable because they are matters in which we take the word of the individual, i.e. regarding himself, without puffing. There are several reliable sources, not all of which deal with the Silverstein matter.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:17, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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LO at PR

Following a recent overhaul by Tim riley and me, we now have Laurence Olivier up for comments and suggestions at PR. Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 20:33, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

That will be a pleasure. I doubt I will beat the rush for seats, but I'll be there soon enough.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

List of productions in infoboxes

We don't add a production to an infobox (even if it is a major-market production) until it at least begins previews, but we do describe it down in the Productions section once the theatre has been rented and casting is announced. So, the planned production of The King and I is already described in the Productions section, but I took it out of the infobox until previews begin. As you probably know, lots of planned B'way and West End shows get cancelled or significantly postponed, even after rehearsals begin! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:11, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I saw. I'll start looking for textual material though, and stay with it through the reviews. If it comes off, it's worth covering on the same level as other post-Brynner productions.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:20, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Your work on the Main page

The new year is only 11 says old and has seen 2 of your articled as TFA, - precious! May it continue in happiness, liberty and peace! - When is your next coin article planned to appear? I am asking because of Seated Liberty dollar, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

March 3 is the 150th anniversary of the three-cent nickel but that dollar must have some 175th too. Many thanks.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:52, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Would you please find a relevant date, - I was not successful, would have nominated for the next available "any date", and better after the other --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:03, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
I see we don't use any specific dates in 1840 in the article, and I don't own that book, RHM22 wrote that and I don't think he has his references available right now. Let me see if I can check my own resources.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:11, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, I don't see anything in my major numismatic references. I don't have all the books on silver dollars, though. I have a large number of images that are really not well organized, from articles I copied last time I was at the major coin library. I'll keep looking.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Gerda and Wehwalt. I just noticed this conversation. I don't have access to the most of the references that I used for this article at the moment (most of my books are in storage), but I don't believe that many precise dates are given; I usually like to include those when possible. William Kneass died on August 27, 1840, but that's not really important to the article. Actually, I think that one of the reference books I used has now been 'digitized' online, so I'll see if it happens to have the date when the dollar was first struck.-RHM22 (talk) 03:04, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I took a look, and I can't find any specific dates. Bowers generally uses phrases like "early in 1840..." or "in July 1840." However, I don't have access to Taxay or Lange, so I can't check those at the moment.-RHM22 (talk) 03:47, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I looked at Taxay. He discusses the Gobrecht a lot but barely mentions the 1840 issue. Disappointing. And I checked Breen as well, who is usually good on dates of delivery from the Chief Coiner and so forth but in this case is uncharacteristically vague (though I do not want to get into Breen's character for obvious reasons). Lange gives no specific dates. If you have Bowers' encyclopedia, well, if it's not there, then I suspect the papers went to the flames in the Hackel Debacle. I thought of the Kneass death. What about Gobrecht's date of appointment as Engraver? I could probably find that out without too much trouble.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:57, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
This one is actually a bit of a mess. The references with a specific date I can find say December 21, 1840 which is the date he was confirmed by the Senate. But my research indicates that President Van Buren had given Gobrecht a recess appointment meaning that he took office pending confirmation. Van Buren's message to the Senate nominating Gobrecht for permanent appointment does not mention when he was commissioned.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:14, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I think you might be right about those records having been destroyed, which accounts for the vagueness. The first striking of a coin was usually a big deal back then (when the general public actually cared), so there's almost always some specific information, as you know. There might not be anything substantive to add unless one of us stumbles upon something.-RHM22 (talk) 15:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

1804 dollar

I ordered some reference material for the 1804 silver dollar, so I'll be starting work there soon. The first thing to do will be to clear that tangled mess of images, which appear to be copyvios. The good thing about the 1804 dollar is that it will be very easy to find an image, since it's been widely covered for over a century. By the way, do you think that 1804 dollar would be a more appropriate title?-RHM22 (talk) 03:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree, the word "silver" is unneeded as the gold dollar wasn't coined yet. I can send you images of the pages of the articles on the 1804 dollar in the refs I have. I think I uploaded one or two good ones. Please keep in mind that images from the National Numismatic Collection were taken by the Smithsonian, and we've confirmed that through Godot13, who is a maven on paper money, so the Smithsonian web site is fair game on this one. Check the archives of this page for discussion between me, him, and Crisco1492 on the subject, which says how the Smithsonian wants the credit line to appear. I thought I uploaded one or two I had taken at ANA in 2011 (my last until last year) or in Colorado Springs, but they may have been obverse only.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:46, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
I took a look at the images, and it seems like the Smithsonian one is probably the only salvageable image. I don't think an image of every 1804 dollar is necessary anyway. I'd have liked to use a photo of the King of Siam or Sultan of Muscat example, but they're all mostly identical for purposes of illustration. Thank you in advance for that information. I ordered the Whitman book on the 1804 dollar, which is a reprint of the one from the 1960s. I believe that to be the best single reference on the subject, but I'm sure it won't have everything.-RHM22 (talk) 15:36, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Just to be clear, we can use any coin images from the Smithsonian? I know there's a PD-Smithsonian tag, and that seems to be the one used on other images from them.-RHM22 (talk) 19:46, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
RHM22-Let me know if this image would suit your needs. I'm fairly sure I can get the proper OTRS permission to use the image (and possibly get access to the raw tif file). My understanding from the Smithsonian is that if it is on their website it can be used, provided proper credit is given. I will be there next week and will verify this again with them.--Godot13 (talk) 20:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Godot13 for the response. That image would be great! If you can get approval, then it would make a fantastic addition to the article. I also found this on the Smithsonian website: 1804 dollar. Do you think that would be included in the permission which allows us to use their images? The coin in your link is a type III dollar, and the Smithsonian example is a type I. The Smithsonian website also has a few other images, including the type II, of which they hold the only extant specimen. See here: 1804 dollar search. I will be very interested in the result of your discussion with the Smithsonian officials. (I will also try my best to avoid making a terrible 'Waiting for Godot' joke.)-RHM22 (talk) 20:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Actually RHM22, you would be surprised how few jokes have been made. Interestingly, the images on their website are slightly higher resolution than those they had in the drive I looked through. I will verify with them the ability to use the images. I will pursue permission to use the Heritage image. It may take a bit of time...--Godot13 (talk) 21:42, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Godot13, thank you again! As you know, images are usually the hardest part of rare coin articles. There is absolutely no need to rush these photos, because I just ordered my necessary reference material last night, and it's being shipped to me via USPS Media Mail, which I believe is delivered on muleback.-RHM22 (talk) 21:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
No, they take it off the mule when it gets to the post office and put it in a postal truck, for the sake of appearance.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:59, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Peer review request

I've brought Girl Pat (1935 trawler) to WP:PR – it's a merry little tale of minor nautical skulduggery that (in my view) was overblown by the press into a saga of maritime derring-do. If you can comment I'd be most grateful, but there's no hurry as I shall be in warmer climes until 26th. Brianboulton (talk) 22:10, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I'll have it done by then, and I should have my next article ready by then. Don't expect pleasant reading.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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