User talk:WeijiBaikeBianji

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A thoughtful researcher I admire

Thanks to all of you for the interesting conversations that occur here. We are here to build an encyclopedia, so let's discuss how to improve as many of the 5,016,711 articles on Wikipedia as we can. Tips from Wikipedians on how to edit better, and on where to find resources for sourcing better edits, are always appreciated. I see other user talk pages have announcements about where each editor will reply to posts. Usually I will reply to your comments to me, posted here, right here on this page. I'll do my best to learn to follow to where you want me to read your posts, and where to reply to them, if you have a differing preference.

Please see my how I edit page for a detailed discussion of my approach to editing Wikipedia. Note that I am rigid and inflexible in respecting the core Wikipedia content guideline of respecting reliable secondary sources, so I read actual books and review articles rather than blogs or fringe websites when searching for information for updating Wikipedia articles. Experience has taught me that it is pointless to prefer the world of blogs for information in an era when academic libraries are woefully neglected. Professional academic librarians (who are severely underpaid, in my opinion) are well qualified to advise you on what sources are reliable and what sources are laughable in the opinion of thorough, thoughtful scholars. Ask a professional reference librarian at an academic library for advice on what sources are reliable and mainstream. The librarian will be glad to help. (And, yes, anyone who answers questions like this should be paid more to answer the questions than is usually the case.)

Please note. Somehow some editor has been disregarding the immediately preceding paragraph here, so let me be especially clear. I happen to work on pages that are subject to active arbitration remedies, and the related ArbCom case included site bans for some editors who have returned to Wikipedia as puppets. I cannot always be sure that comments posted to this page are posted by someone who had nothing to do with the case that triggered those remedies. Therefore I will make full use of my right to remove comments from my own user pages. "The removal of material from a user page is normally taken to mean that the user has read and is aware of its contents. There is no need to keep them on display and usually users should not be forced to do so." I have the right to clean up my own user talk page and will do so. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, we may as well remember that it's always hunting season for that kind of duck.

RE: Victor Klemperer[edit]

Heya, thanks for coming to my talk page. I appreciate the references, but I'm perfectly aware of what tyranny means as well as that it's commonly used in books by historians like Kershaw, Evans etc. However, as the wiki article about the word says in the lede, it generally carries extreme negativity when used which is why I removed as a violation of WP:NPOV policy. Best, Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 16:24, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

I didn't have any role in writing the neutral point of view policy here, but I would be most surprised to hear anyone say that by policy we cannot describe the Nazi regime as tyrannical. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 16:46, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
You misunderstand me; Nazi Germany was tyrannical, but this specific word carries extreme negative connotation. Therefore, using it on Wikipedia, which strives to maintain absolute neutrality, would be counterproductive. Why not use a common synonym that doesn't carry extreme negative connotation? Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 20:09, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
It seems that the other editors all understand the matter differently, and I know at least one of those editors does very careful editorial work here. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 20:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Consensus is consensus. I'm just saying. Jonas Vinther • (Click here to collect your price!) 20:20, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration Enforcement request notice[edit]

I've filed a report to AE concerning the dispute over at Race and Genetics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wajajad (talkcontribs) 00:16, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

You really should learn how to sign user talk page comments with your user signature before escalating content disputes to ArbCom enforcement. Why not rather engage on the article talk pages with discussion of sources that shows that you have actually read the sources? -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 03:28, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
All's well that ends well.12 August 2015 diff -- WeijiBaikeBianji (Watch my talk, How I edit) 23:04, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank so much![edit]

Dear WeijiBaikeBianji

Thank so much for your kind words! Much appreciated! 谢谢! You’re really made my day. It is so nice to hear some kind words around here. I’ll just about finished with writing Houston Stewart Chamberlain article. Everybody says I too much detail into articles I work on, so I really going to stop now. That article was a bit hard to write given that what HSC had to say was so repulsive and ludicrous (who knew that Chinese civilization was founded by Jews?)-it is hard to be neutral about somebody like that. I’ll saw the 2008 film The Red Baron, which I really liked, and I was moved by the death of one of the characters, the Jewish airman Frederich Sternburg. The character of Sternburg is actually a composite character, so none of that was based on fact, but it got me thinking about just where exactly do people like HSC and company get off saying that German Jews didn’t fight and die for the Fatherland? Beyond that, I am doing quite bit of work on the Yellow Peril article, where a number of people are disputing the fairly well established fact that the Kaiser was a racist. Anybody who can embrace the ideas of HSC like Wilhelm II did is a definitely an extreme racist. Beyond that, I am aware of my limitations, and I don’t mean to disparage the work of others because I know that most of the people around here mean well and do their best, but I thought that the HSC article need to show him as the best known völkisch thinker in early 20th century and a prototype National Socialist. It is true that finished product looked somewhat different from the prototype, but one clearly see in Chamberlain’s ideas the main strands of National Socialism emerging. I am bit worried about that article in the sense I tried to give a summary of Chamberlain’s ideas, and there is so much that he got wrong or he’ll distorted that I could write an entire book rebutting what he had to say. But according to the rules around here, that does not really belong in an article. What worries me is that somebody might see this article about this writer who was so acclaimed in the first years of the 20th century, and think there is something to his theories. Perhaps I am just being paranoid, but the last thing I want is to be (unwilling) promoting hate against Jews and other groups. Leaving aside my fears, thank so much again for all your kindness. It is great to know that there are wonderful people like you there.--A.S. Brown (talk) 22:21, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Outline feedback desired[edit]

I noticed you joined the WikiProject Outlines. Welcome!

By the way, I have some questions for you...

What do you think about outlines?

What do you like about them?
What do you not like about them?

What's missing?

How else can they be improved?

I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely, The Transhumanist 00:43, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

RE: Kevin B. MacDonald[edit]

@WeijiBaikeBianji: so let's discuss as per your suggestion. Quis separabit? 19:32, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

The editor who first made the edit makes a reasonable case for including it. I'll check some other sources over the next several days. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (Watch my talk, How I edit) 22:39, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Richard Feynman[edit]

How is this going? Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:55, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I've been mostly reading for a while. I should corral some weekend time and show you some typed output on this, as I'm sure you'll know what to do with a draft I prepare. I watchlist your user talk page, so I see you've been busy meanwhile. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (Watch my talk, How I edit) 00:09, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Five minutes to help make WikiProjects better[edit]


First, on behalf of WikiProject X, thank you for trying out the WikiProject X pilot projects. I would like to get some anonymous feedback from you on your experience using the new WikiProject layout and tools. This way, we will know what we did right, and if we did something horribly wrong, we can try to fix it. This feedback won't be associated with your username, so please be completely honest. We are determined to improve the experience of Wikipedians, and your feedback helps us with that. (You are also welcome to leave non-anonymous feedback at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject X.)

Please complete the survey here. The survey has two parts: the first part asks for your username, while the second part contains the survey questions. These two parts are stored separately, so your username will not be associated with your feedback. There are only nine questions and it should not take very long to complete. Once you complete the survey I will leave a handwritten note on your talk page as a token of my appreciation.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, Harej (talk) 17:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello! Just sending a reminder to complete the survey linked above. (This is the only reminder I'll send, I promise.) Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions. Thank you!!! Harej (talk) 22:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The current events context for some edit wars I observe on Wikipedia[edit]

The Washington Post reports on 4 September 2015, "A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again — to welcome refugees", showing that fascist ideology is still a topic of discussion in Europe (and, indeed, around the world) today. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (Watch my talk, How I edit) 15:44, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

A German-language report on the same issue (linked to from the Washington Post report): "Schrei nach Liebe" wieder in den Charts.
"Fascist Ideology" being the opposition to the genocide of your people through mass-immigration. The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you. (talk) 14:40, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 13[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 13, August-September 2015
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs), Nikkimaria (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - EBSCO, IMF, more newspaper archives, and Arabic resources
  • Expansion into new languages, including Viet and Catalan
  • Spotlight: Elsevier partnership garners controversy, dialogue
  • Conferences: PKP, IFLA, upcoming events

Read the full newsletter

The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:30, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

The Million Award for IQ classification ![edit]

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For your contributions to bring IQ classification (estimated annual readership: 1,000,000) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Million Award. Congratulations on this rare accomplishment, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! — Cirt (talk) 18:32, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Great job, thanks for your quality improvement efforts! — Cirt (talk) 18:32, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Invite to the Minneapolis Institute of Art[edit]

Minneapolis Institute of Art edit-a-thon
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  • Date: Saturday, October 24, 2015, 12pm–4pm
  • Location: Minneapolis Institute of Art Friends Community Room, 2400 Third Avenue South, Minneapolis
  • Sponsor: Minneapolis Institute of Art
You are invited to attend an Art+Feminism edit-a-thon at Minneapolis Institute of Art which will be held on Saturday, October 24, 2015. This editing event is dedicated to improving and increasing the presence of cultural, historic, and artistic information on Wikipedia pertaining to women artists.
--gobonobo + c 20:24, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Article upgrade assistance request (Pre-translation stage)[edit]

Seasons Greetings,

This is in reference to a relatively new umbrella article on en-wikipedia named Ceremonial pole. Ceremonial pole is a human tradition since ancient times; either existed in past at some point of time, or still exists in some cultures across global continents from north to south & from east to west. Ceremonial poles are used to symbolize a variety of concepts in several different world cultures.

Through article Ceremonial pole we intend to take encyclopedic note of cultural aspects and festive celebrations around Ceremonial pole as an umbrella article and want to have historical, mythological, anthropological aspects, reverence or worships wherever concerned as a small part.

While Ceremonial poles have a long past and strong presence but usually less discussed subject. Even before we seek translation of this article in global languages, we need to have more encyclopedic information/input about Ceremonial poles from all global cultures and languages. And we seek your assistance in the same.

Since other contributors to the article are insisting for reliable sources and Standard native english; If your contributions get deleted (for some reason like linguistics or may be your information is reliable but unfortunately dosent match expectations of other editors) , please do list the same on Talk:Ceremonial pole page so that other wikipedians may help improve by interlanguage collaborations, and/or some other language wikipedias may be interested in giving more importance to reliablity of information over other factors on their respective wikipedia.

This particular request is being made to you since your user name is listed in Wikipedia:Translators available list.

Thanking you with warm regards Mahitgar (talk) 05:19, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 5[edit]

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Newsletter • October 2015

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

We did it!

In July, we launched five pilot WikiProjects: WikiProjects Cannabis, Evolutionary Biology, Ghana, Hampshire, and Women's Health. We also use the new design, named "WPX UI," on WikiProject Women in Technology, Women in Red, WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health. We are currently looking for projects for the next round of testing. If you are interested, please sign up on the Pilots page.

Shortly after our launch we presented at Wikimania 2015. Our slides are on Wikimedia Commons.

Then after all that work, we went through the process of figuring out whether we accomplished our goal. We reached out to participants on the redesigned WikiProjects, and we asked them to complete a survey. (If you filled out your survey—thank you!) While there are still some issues with the WikiProject tools and the new design, there appears to be general satisfaction (at least among those who responded). The results of the survey and more are documented in our grant report filed with the Wikimedia Foundation.

The work continues!

There is more work that needs to be done, so we have applied for a renewal of our grant. Comments on the proposal are welcome. We would like to improve what we have already started on the English Wikipedia and to also expand to Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. Why those? Because they are multilingual projects and because there needs to be better coordination across Wikimedia projects. More details are available in the renewal proposal.

How can the Wikimedia Foundation support WikiProjects?

The Wikimedia Developer Summit will be held in San Francisco in January 2016. The recently established Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is interested in investigating what technical support they can provide for WikiProjects, i.e., support beyond just templates and bots. I have plenty of opinions myself, but I want to hear what you think. The session is being planned on Phabricator, the Wikimedia bug tracker. If you are not familiar with Phabricator, you can log in with your Wikipedia username and password through the "Login or Register: MediaWiki" button on the login page. Your feedback can help make editing Wikipedia a better experience.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 09:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

JSTOR cleanup drive[edit]

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Hello TWL users! We hope JSTOR has been a useful resource for your work. We're organizing a cleanup drive to correct dead links to JSTOR articles – these require JSTOR access and cannot easily be corrected by bot. We'd love for you to jump in and help out!

See the list

Sent of behalf of Nikkimaria for The Wikipedia Library's JSTOR using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:18, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

I saw you heavily edited the William Shockley page.[edit]

You eliminated an extensive quantity of material to which I added many sources.

You left out completely the videos of Skockley speaking directly about his eugenics theory.

I am not sure why you fee these are biased or "interpretation" as they are in Shockley's own words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mparrishxx (talkcontribs) 19:20, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

You must be mistaken. Anyway, please learn to sign your comments to other editors' talk pages, and check the Wikipedia practices about editing biographical articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (Watch my talk, How I edit) 11:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:23, 24 November 2015 (UTC)