User talk:Wingman4l7

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Hi, I had to create an account here because I got a warning from you. What did I do? Phlipsidemom (talk) 04:56, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

What was the IP address you were editing from before you created an account? What was the warning that I gave you? Wingman4l7 (talk) 05:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
This is your last warning; the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at V838 Monocerotis, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Wingman4l7 - This is what I got. My IP is, however, I wasn't editing a page. Plus, it is not a static IP. I'm on here to do work-related research and according to my supervisor I may have unknowingly edited a page, but I'm not sure about that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phlipsidemom (talkcontribs) 17:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I put a warning on that IP because someone using it had recently vandalised said page. Since it had been warned before, one of the moderators must have put a registration restriction of some kind on it. Are you at a school/university? This problem happens sometimes when an IP address is registered to an educational institution and is shared by multiple users. Unfortunately, the only solution at this time is to temporarily block the IP from editing or to require an editor to create an account. If you are at a school, I will put this template on that IP's talk page so other people know about it. Wingman4l7 (talk) 21:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm actually accessing the Internet from home, I just have no idea how public/shared IPs work. Well I hope I won't encounter such warning again, you think getting a static IP would help? Thanks.Phlipsidemom (talk) 00:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Getting a static IP would prevent you getting an IP previously assigned to a vandal, but it's probably unnecessary. Using an account to log in to Wikipedia should prevent this issue from reoccurring. If you ever get accidentally blocked, you can always contact a Wikipedia administrator to sort things out. Best of luck with your research! Wingman4l7 (talk) 02:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
I see. Well thanks for the info, appreciate it.Phlipsidemom (talk) 00:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

A Belated Welcome![edit]

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Looks like you've never been welcomed and thanks for fixing Pontyclun.

Half a year is nnever too late. Simply south...... 13:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses (discussion archive)[edit]

I don't want to get into an edit war with you, and I sure as hell am not a Nazi sympathizer. However, the Jewish boycott of German goods article appears to imply that the Nazi boycott was a counter-boycott that was afterwards and in response to the Jewish boycott of German goods (although there is only one source to back this up). I'm sure that a Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses was inevitable, and they probably were only using the Jewish boycott as a convenient excuse, but nonetheless, this seems to me to be important context that should not be removed entirely from the article. I'll let your edit stand; what do you think? Wingman4l7 (talk) 00:48, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay in responding, I try to avoid wikipedia for periods as I find it addictive.
I wrote the text into which this was inserted and it broke up the sentence destroying its meaning.
You need a present-day source for this point. The Daily Mail had a pro-fascist phase in the thirties - the use of the term Judea for Jews is a clue: the motto fo the British fascist party was "Perish Judea". See Nordic League and also
The Nazis no doubt gave justifications for their boycott, they also gave justifications for exterminating the Jews. That doesn't mean that they were the cause of their actions. They were not just responding to a Jewish boycott, as the text makes clear. Telaviv1 on June 20, 2011
Thanks for your response to this on my talk page; that article from The Independent definitely puts The Daily Mail's article into a proper historical perspective. Sorry for causing the ensuing mini-edit war! Wingman4l7 (talk) 01:17, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

John Nevard (interlanguage links)[edit]

Regarding your query at User_talk:John_Nevard#Nazi_book_burnings about interlanguage links, there is no policy against their use so long as they are provided simply as links for the convenience of the user (usually because there isn't an article in the user's language wikipedia and isn't likely to be) and not as a source verifying content. Nevard took out all the interlanguage links I and other editors provided at Tristane Banon and I have asked him to restore them and warned him that there will be real trouble if he persists. I suggest you do the same. Let me know if he continues to be troublesome. He's probably some high-school geek after an adminship and he needs to be swatted. Thank you. FightingMac (talk) 18:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the input on this re: the Nazi book burning article. I'm real reluctant to get into edit wars -- I've read too many anecdotes of people quitting work on WP after getting sick and tired of the politics spoiling their contribution experience. I was just going to let it stand because it wasn't a deal breaker in terms of the article, but after what you've said, I'll re-revert John Nevard's changes. Thanks! Wingman4l7 (talk)

FYI: eSATAp merge[edit]

I saw that you have on your todo-list (on your userpage) the merge of eSATAp with eSATA/USB. I already finished my "quick 'n dirty" work. I will check if I can find some more useful references. Feel free to help ;) mabdul 17:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I'll help if I can! I've clearly bitten off more than I can chew at the moment re: my todo page. I should stop adding things to it and start making changes! =) Wingman4l7 (talk) 21:34, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


As far as I know, the image does show an authentic ring. Expatkiwi 13:10, 3 October 2011 (CDT)


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Possible deletion of [[Cross generation ship]][edit]

Hi Wingman417:

You put a link to the [[Cross generation ship]] article on your user page, so here is a notice of AfD in case you are interested:

Nomination of Cross generation ship for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cross generation ship is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cross generation ship until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.

Fartherred (talk) 01:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Well, it appears that that note to yourself on your user page about Cross Linking Needed for [[Cross generation ship]] is no longer needed. It is a good thing that you left the note there until now or I would have completely forgotten that I told you about the AfD for [[Cross generation ship]] because your user page linked to the article. Then I would have been mystified by your note of thanks. - Fartherred (talk) 09:33, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Cite doi[edit]

Hi there Wingman4l7. Sorry, but I just declined your speedy deletion nomination of Template:Cite doi/10.1016.2Fj.actaastro.2007.01.052. It looks like that individual template might meet speedy deletion criterion T3, but there are a lot of subpages of Template:Cite doi that aren't being used, so we should probably discuss them all together, to save time and to make sure any deletions are supported by consensus. Maybe you could start by making a new thread at Template talk:Cite doi, and if that doesn't get a good response, you could make a batch nomination at templates for discussion. Does this sound like an acceptable way of doing things? Best — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 12:11, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

NOTE TO SELF: See this:

Animated 3D-molecules[edit]

Hi Wingman4l7 :-) I just wanted to stop by and point out something to you that you might find useful, as you have asked ProxyChemist about his animated 3D-molecules. I think QuteMol in combination with either PDB and/or Avogadro is the tool you've asked for ;-) Bikedoc (talk) 18:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Dead link[edit]

In the future, when you find a dead link, please mark it as such with the {{dead link}} template instead of just commenting out the reference, as you did here. If it's hidden, no one can fix it! Even better, check if there is an archived copy at, and then you can use the {{Wayback}} template or the|archiveurl and |archivedate parameters in a citation template. Also, if you suspect the page has just been moved and you're reluctant to use an archival copy, you can search for an exact string from the archived copy --sometimes you can find where it's been moved that way. I've fixed that one. You did the edit 2 years ago, so if you were just a new editor then and now you know all this stuff, never mind! =) Wingman4l7 (talk) 03:53, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I was fairly new two years ago, but have been almost inactive since due to some medical problems, so I've probably forgotten more than I've learned since. Anyhow, I will try to remember about the deadlink template next time I see one, and maybe have the wits to use it correctly. Cheers, Wwheaton (talk) 20:23, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
No problem; glad I could be helpful. Take care! Wingman4l7 (talk) 01:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC)


Okay, but I most definitely saw that a heavy portion was copied based on the source that I provided. If you translated it, you would have seen how significantly copied it was. It has changed since then however, so it isn't as significant. 3er40 (talk) 11:26, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Wow, how stupid am I? After reading through your comment again, I noticed you said it was a mirror. Wow. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Thanks for clearing that up. 3er40 (talk) 19:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Hantavirus Risk in Yosemite[edit]

Hi, I noticed you recently contributed to the Hantavirus article. I've been having trouble adding mention of the 2012 Hantarvirus Outbreak to the main Yosemite_National_Park Page.

I have written a new one-sentence draft of this edit in one of my subpages: User:Airelor/Yosemite_National_Park.

Please take a look and suggest any other edits or make any changes as you see fit before I try to add it to the main Yosemite_National_Park page. If you know of any administrators or WikiUsers you can refer this draft (or me) specifically to for advice about this matter, that would be very appreciated too. Thank you. Airelor (talk) 22:01, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


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us wingmen need to stick together! lol! Wingman1 03:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


Please see the edit summary I've left on pages such as Template:Cite doi/10.1037.2F0096-3445.112.3.413 — I don't understand you really, so I've declined several speedy deletions and am asking you to re-tag them in a different way. Nyttend (talk) 07:30, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Editing by anomalocaris[edit]

No, I have never used Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser. I often go looking for specific things, but once I open an article for editing, I usually give it the full treatment and don't just fix the one thing I was looking for. Recently, I've been stomping out missing chemical subscripts. In the last batch, I searched for FeCl3 so I could change it to FeCl3, but most of the articles had a lot more issues than just subscripts, especially

I assume that AWB would be very effective if all I wanted to do was change FeCl3 to FeCl3, but if this is only a minor part of the editing I would do in an affected article, I assume that AWB wouldn't be much help. —Anomalocaris (talk) 07:58, 25 February 2013 (UTC)


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Army ant[edit]

Greetings Wingman417 and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Thanks for your work on Army ant. I apologize for removing the access templates on some references without discussion. It was based on two things 1) The title of a reference should only be linked if the link leads to the full text or at the very least the abstract/preview at the link should support the fact in the WP article - thus if the title is linked the open access template is redundant. 2) PMC is open access full text - thus if there is a PMC given the open access template is redundant. I am not fervent about this position and am more than willing to yield to the existing consensus on an article, especially one up for GA. The other aspect of your edit was to add the month parameter [back] (again my bad, editing boldly) to journal articles. Journals that have volume, issue and page parameters don't usually get month just year. This is different for magazine articles sometimes. Again not a position I unwilling you consider discussion on or yield to existing consensus. Just dropping in with my 2 cents and apologizing for making changes without discussion. It is a good article and getting better. I will be able to provide a link or two to full text versions of a couple of refs when I am at a computer that allows me to open PDF's (another excuse for my half assed editing, I would normally have gotten all refs uniform). If you wish feel free to move this post to the talk page of the article. Best wishes. - - MrBill3 (talk) 06:58, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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