User talk:Wobble

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Need you to point me in the right direction[edit]

I'd need a professional body statement (such as the APA, AAA or AAPA statements on race) from biologists and/or geneticists on what they think about the subject of "race"... This is of course for the R&I article. Please let me know if anything comes to mind. Thanks in advance.--Ramdrake (talk) 15:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Mea culpa[edit]

I'd like to personally apologize for failing to re-check the source of that passage when you suggested it. I should have, but didn't, relying upon my earlier notation instead. I posted the full citation of the passage on the talkpage. Thanks, --Aryaman (talk) 14:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Appreciate it. Alun (talk) 15:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Shagrat-Pink Jackets Required.png[edit]

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Thanks[edit]

I never thanked for your condolence note last year, but I appreciate it more than I can possibly express. All the best, in friendship. Guettarda (talk) 16:25, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Race and intelligence mediation[edit]

Wobble,

I've responded to you here at the mediation. slrubenstein has made some suggestions about revising the statements to adress your concerns, and I'm waiting on your approval before I do so. sorry for any confusion about my purpose on the page. --Ludwigs2 17:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

R&I mediation[edit]

there 's a draft of an outline at Wikipedia_talk:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2009-11-12/Race_and_Intelligence#Proposed_outline. You have not yet commented on it, and I am preparing to give the outline to David.Kane (per current agreement in mediation) to enter a draft of the article in mainspace. There will be a review/revision period after the draft is entered in which any issues can be addressed, so if you have no immediate comment, or can't get to the mediation page to make a comment, you can participate in the review and we can address any concerns you still have there.

sorry for the bulk message. Face-smile.svg --Ludwigs2 11:02, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Race and intelligence, new draft[edit]

A new draft of the race and intelligence article is being edited into mainspace, based on discussion in mediation. It should be completed sometime on 4/1/2010. I am posting this notice to mediation participants in the hopes that those who have not contributed recently to the mediation will come back to review and comment on the draft, and help discuss any revisions that need to be made. You may make any reviews or comments at the mediation page, and we will discuss any revisions that need to be made.

I'd also ask you to leave a note for David.Kane (talk · contribs) on his talk page. Whatever your opinion of the draft itself, I think he deserves thanks for putting a lot of time and effort into making the revisions. --Ludwigs2 18:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Race[edit]

you might want to keep an eye on this discussion. Slrubenstein | Talk 14:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

2 boys image[edit]

Hi Wobble,
coming over from Commons where your image File:Twobrothers.jpg has been tagged for deletion. While the presented rationale isn't that convincing, I see a problem with personality rights as this is an indoor shot of fully identifiable non-notable people. Honestly, do you have the informed consent of the parents for broad publication of this image under a free license? --Túrelio (talk) 07:21, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Ummm, I am their parent. Alun (talk) 15:38, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Huxley races[edit]

Hi Wobble. Your map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Huxley_races.png lists Bushmen under number 1. Because you say "map of the distribution of human races by Thomas Huxley", I am not sure whether the terms used by Huxley must stay as is. What I am getting at, is whether Bushmen should not be replaced by Bushmen (or San) and Khoikhoi. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 17:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I see your point. I don't know. I used the term bushmen because that is what Huxley used. I simply don't know if the people he meant correspond to the same group as what we might call San today. In general I think there would be no problem with the change though. Alun (talk) 09:59, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

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Human genetic variation article review[edit]

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Moving Burma to Myanmar - ongoing poll[edit]

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Help with article[edit]

I saw on the genetics projects page that you were interested in genetics, but not any particular genetics-speciality. Would you perhaps like to help with the genetics collaboration of the month, the genome-wide association study article? That's a fairly broad article, since it does not focus on one specific disease and I thought you perhaps could come with some input. Best. --LasseFolkersen (talk) 11:45, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Finn2003.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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Rosalind Franklin[edit]

You must be so looking forward to the new biography by her sister "Wobble"?

2.27.113.92 (talk) 18:50, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Bought/read it. Only thing missed out is the invitation card for the 'D.N.A. Helix' funeral... 2.30.208.50 (talk) 19:51, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Moving Burma to Myanmar - ongoing poll[edit]

This is to let you know that an ongoing poll is taking place to move Burma to Myanmar. I know this happened just recently but no administrator would close these frequent rm's down, so here we go again. This note is going out to wikipedia members who have participated in Burma/Myanmar name changing polls in the past. It does not include banned members nor those with only ip addresses. Thank you. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:26, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Moving Burma to Myanmar - new 2015 poll[edit]

You participated in a Burma RM in the past so I'm informing you of another RM. I hope I didn't miss anyone. New move attempt of Burma>Myanmar Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:12, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Problematic Phylogeny Diagram from 2007[edit]

Hi Wobble, I see that you are the author of this diagram, from 2007: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Molecular_lineage.png My impression is that it was intended to illustrate some basic concept about phylogeny in a generic way. However, unfortunately, with the letters A and B on it, it is being taken quite literally by some readers who have written to me. They are supposing that there is some unnamed, "Ancestral Haplogroup" ancestral to human Y-DNA haplogroups A and B, and which still survives to the present. They have been barraging me with questions as to whether it is A00, or what it would be. I participated as a volunteer project admin in the discovery of A00, and was a co-author of the paper about it in the AJHG. I'm continuing research on A00, so people are looking to me for the scoop. I keep telling them that there is no "third branch" as they are thinking. Do you think we could come up with a diagram that will illustrate phylogenetics in a way that is not going to give them the wrong idea? Thanks! Iris-J2 (talk) 18:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

The image is clearly a schematic of how mutations arise, and not meant to be representative of the actual Y chromosome phylogeny. After all, that itself is under constant review as new mutations are discovered, and the mutations aren't labelled as Y chromosome mutations would be, after all, haplogroup B is defined by B-M60, and I don't label that mutation as B-M60. Also there must have been an an ancestral Y chromosome to haplogroup A, that fact it is no longer extant doesn't mean it never existed. I don't mean to seem rude, but what I'm hearing from you is "some people are just too stupid to understand a simple schematic". This is an encyclopedia, it doesn't contain original research, it should contain explanations and illustrations that aid understanding of concepts. I made this image a very long time ago, and I haven't been involved in Wikipedia seriously for six years or more, I got very burned out with the constant wikilawyering and politicking. Personally I think the image is clearly illustrative of a concept, and obviously not meant to be taken literally. It's not a great image, I am sure that many people could produce something far more aesthetically pleasing, I don't pretend to be very good at drawing, I only wanted to help people understand why Y chromosome mutations are sequential and define haplogroups. I really don't care what you do, put it up for deletion, whatever. I'm done giving my time to help people who only ever attack and criticise you for it. I don't particularly feel responsible for the fact that some people are too stupid to grasp the basic concept of a schematic. Alun (talk) 04:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Race and Genetics NHGC[edit]

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