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Welcome to Wikipedia, Worldbruce! Thank you for your contributions. I am Sminthopsis84 and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I see that you haven't done a lot of editing over the years, so a warm welcome seems appropriate at last. It's very gratifying to see you working on the Bangladesh upazila articles, which could use all the help they can get! I look forward to seeing you around. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:03, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

SM Sultan[edit]

It was done automatically by the software, rather than being a change that I intentionally applied. Looking over what happened, though, I believe the problem was that you were using the <ref name=german><!-- Gloss by itself --></ref> format in the article body. That doesn't work as intended, unfortunately — a gloss can't be split off from the reference content in that manner so that it's standing alone as the only content nested inside a particular invocation of the ref tags, but rather has to be directly next to the actual content of the reference it's glossing.

So in this particular case, if the gloss is necessary for one particular invocation of the reference but not applicable to others, it might be necessary to create a separate ref=german2 citation for the content that needs to be specifically glossed as "supports solo", citing the specific page number in the source that "supports solo" instead of the entire page range of ref=german, so that the gloss can be left in the references list alongside the content of that particular citation.

Hope that helps a bit. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Up for a challenge? Yes![edit]

Hi Worldbruce,

Yes, I'd be interested in improving the article about the luthier Brian Lisus. I do need help getting hold of the sources. I've already searched and there isn't much. Please send me what you have. I'm not sure how to use sources that you have to subscribe to read. I avoided them when I wrote the Schenkman article.

My husband used to work for a violin maker and I'll ask him if he has any ideas for this project.

RoseSong — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoseSong (talkcontribs) 03:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Bugwah, Bangladesh[edit]

This is an old post office location, found in P.D. Allen's list, at http://worldpostmarks.net/HTML Countries/IndiaandStates.htm

Rajshahi division may have been superceded; on maps it appears to be almost due east of Rangpur.

http://geographic.org/geographic_names/name.php?uni=-3770753&fid=548&c=bangladesh Latitude in decimal degrees : 25.716667 Longitude in decimal degrees : 89.716667

"The information regarding Bugwah in Bangladesh on this page is published from the data supplied by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, a member of the Intelligence community of the United States of America, and a Department of Defense (DoD) Combat Support Agency."

They then print this disclaimer: "No claims are made regarding the accuracy of Bugwah information contained here."Fconaway (talk) 02:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

@Fconaway: Thanks! With that additional information I found that the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency records "Bugwah" as a variant of "Bagua, Anantapur", which is a village in Hatia Union, Ulipur Upazila, Kurigram District, Rangpur Division, Bangladesh, very close to the coordinates in the article. Anantapur appears on the upazila maps, and appears on Google maps as Onantapur.
Bagua, Anantapur is quite small, so I'm not sure that it is the same as the early Indian post office using killer cancel 158. There are at least five other Baguas in what is now Bangladesh, some of which seem more likely candidates for a match. Our local philatelic library has a copy of Jal Cooper's Early Indian Cancellations, so I'll check that as soon as I get a chance. Worldbruce (talk) 18:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Good progress! Jal Cooper's Early Indian Cancellations may not have what you are looking for. The latest word on this is Denis R. Martin, Numbers in Early Indian Cancellations, 1855-1884. I would look it up, but my copy is in storage. I hope your library has it. Remember, it must be specifically the B/158 in the Bengal Octagon, or "Bengal spiderweb": that is Renouf's Type [7], which would also be Cooper's Type 7. Renouf, the pioneer, listed this as Bugwah.Fconaway (talk) 02:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Here is a scan of a letter cancelled B/158, dated 29 September 1869. It was back-stamped "Traveling P. O. Bengal"; it may have been carried by a river steamer. This appeared in a Feldman auction lot in Sept 2013.Fconaway (talk) 00:22, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
@Fconaway: Intriguing. I don't actually see a scan ... am I missing a link?

SICPA submission[edit]

Hi Worldbruce. First let me thank you for taking the time to read and comment on my SICPA article. I am very aware of the conflict of interest issues and extremely keen not to fall foul of the rules. I'd just like to ask two favours from you.

The first is just a bit of clarification. You say that links to organisations that SICPA has a relationship with are not so good but I thought that close connections with organisations like the World Bank and Interpol - given the industry that SICPA is in - would be relevant. The problem is finding independnet references that aren't directly from those organisation's websites. Is it still best to simply remove this?

Secondly, would you be happy to review my next draft? And, if so, what is the best process to go about this?

Again, many thanks for your help. IainIainplunkett (talk) 09:31, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

@Iainplunkett: Wikipedia doesn't prohibit the use of non-independent sources like the press releases from the World Bank and Interpol, but the bulk of any article has to come from independent sources. To get the draft into article space it must clear the hurdles of notability and neutrality. Press releases don't help because they can't prove notability and don't present an unbiased view. In practice, they can hurt; one reference a reviewer doesn't like can sour their view and result in a declined submission. I would keep such sources only if they support unique information vital to an understanding of the range of the company's operations.
The best references are books or journal articles written by academics and published by academic presses, for example [1]. Next best are journalistic sources from reputable newspapers or magazines, such as [2]. The latter is not an in-depth source, but contains some choice nuggets, like "The ink for more than 80 percent of the world's currency, including the dollar, comes from Sicpa S.A."
Take your time improving the draft. When it's as good as you can make it, resubmit it using the blue button in the big pink box on the draft. Odds are another volunteer will review it. They may give you different feedback, which can be frustrating, but they may have different strengths than I do. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:59, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Daisygrinders Page[edit]

Hi Worldbruce. I hope I am in the right forum to ask you a brief question. You reviewed my article on The Daisygrinders and advised that it did not meet the terms of notoriety. I amended that article and included web and text references as per the Wikipedia guidelines for citing notoriety. I thought that i had resubmitted the article for further consideration, but I am yet to receive any advice about whether it now meets the stringent requirements for inclusion in Wikipedia. Could you possibly spare me a moment to let me know whether I can resubmit my article based on the new information I have provided? Will it meet the criteria or is there something else I am missing to publish my article. Many thanks. Drew Drewzab (talk) 10:31, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

@Drewzab: I won't review Draft:The Daisygrinders now for a couple reasons. First, there's a six-week backlog of drafts awaiting review at Articles for Creation, and asking at a reviewer's talk page isn't a shortcut around that. The only way to know for sure whether your revisions are sufficient is to resubmit it using the blue button in the big pink box at the top of it, and wait for a reviewer to get to it. Second, when I've declined a draft, I don't review it again in AfC if it's resubmitted. This policy gives authors the benefit of a fresh look by a reviewer who may have different strengths.
At a glance, I can see that the draft doesn't cite sources that are obviously reliable. Obviously reliable sources would be things like a book from Oxford University Press, or features in The New York Times and Rolling Stone. There are also some red flags. Discogs is user-generated, so it is not a reliable source. Blogs are usually self-published, so are not reliable sources. YouTube is often problematic either because the material does not constitute a reliable source or because it's a copyright violation of a reliable source.
Reviewers also will be vexed by the draft's formatting problems. They aren't supposed to turn a draft down for that reason alone, but why risk it? Dalton and one other reference are more-or-less correctly formatted within ref tags. One, http://www.stanleyrecords.com.au/adam-young/, is a bare URL in the text. Eight more are partly formatted, and within ref tags, but instead of being placed immediately after the text they support, they're all down at the bottom of the editor. There are also bare Wikipedia URLs scattered throughout the text that need to be turned into internal links. The formatting of sections and of the discography list are incorrect.
What to do? I've left a belated welcome note on your talk page that contains many links you'll find useful if you want to edit Wikipedia. Some highly relevant to this specific draft are:
Anyone can edit Wikipedia, but it isn't necessarily easy. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:58, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
@Worldbruce: Many thanks for the advice. Obviously I have a bit more homework to do. I will review your suggestions and then resubmit. Thanks again.

Drewzab (talk) 05:24, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Dead link on the VidAmerica page[edit]

Hi. This link on VidAmerica is dead for some reason. Can you re-upload it please? 110.34.81.71 (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

I can't re-upload it, because I no longer have access to newspaperarchive.com. It may, as the error message says, be a temporary condition. If not, you could get an account with them so that you could clip the article yourself. Or you could do nothing. It's only a convenience link to a resource that is also available on paper. It doesn't matter if the link is dead, there's no requirement that the source be available online. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
So, can you re-upload it on Scribd.com pr something? 1.227.241.243 (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
No. As I said, I don't have access to newspaperarchive.com. Even if I did, uploading material copied from it would be a violation of copyright and of their terms of service. If you want access to newspaperarchive.com, get your own access. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:03, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Dhaka[edit]

Hello, again. Thought I'd continue this on your page. After further research, I was able to find some maps showing the defined municipal limits of the north and south Dhaka city corporations:

Map 1

Map 2

These probably don't include the recent incorporation of more land and suburbs into the city corporations, but they at least show the thanas and upazilas. I guess my final question is how the Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area (seen in the second map) is defined? Are the building blocks for this upazilas/thanas or something else? If it's upazilas/thans, exactly which ones outside the city corporation are included in this statistical metropolitan area? It seems that the Greater Dhaka page includes this Dhaka Metropolitan Area and then many, many other upazilas/thanas and municipal corporations. I know see that the term "Dhaka City" actually refers to the "Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area" as opposed to the incorporated city, which is how we'd define "city" here in the United States. I'd like us to nail down the area and most recent census population numbers for: Dhaka City Corporation (north and south) and Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area, and then on the city's page to be clear throughout the article what we're talking about when we mention "Dhaka" or "city." I might even look into "Greater Dhaka," but that doesn't seem to be an officially defined area, and we'd have to figure out which upazilas (and which parts when the it's only part of them) are included. For that, we'd have to delve down into a level even below upazilas, which I guess are union parishads.

Thanks! --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:54, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

A noble quest, Criticalthinker. I have more than a gigabyte of 2011 census data from the Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. Give me a few days to poke through their reports and see what answers I can come up with. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:58, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for this. I have one additional question that I thought you might have the answer to. In the city and municipal corporations, are wards a subdivision of the upazilas/thanas whithin those corporations, or of the city corporations, themselves? I guess what I'm wondering is if, as optional divisions, if wards cross upazila/thana borders in cities, or if they are fully contained within their upazilas/thanas? This is just a personal curiosity, not much relating to my interest in redoing the civic administration on Dhaka's page, as I imagine it'd be hard enough to find a total list of thana/upazilas in Dhaka, let alone exactly how many wards it has. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:11, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Wards follow city/municipal corporation boundaries, but don't always align with thana boundaries. I'm not aware of any that cross three thana borders, but plenty include portions of two thanas. In contrast, union parishads, the administrative unit below upazilas, are always wholly contained within their upazila. Dhaka's councillors are elected by ward, so when there are municipal elections someone knows exactly how many wards there are, what their boundaries are, what their populations are, who ran for election, and who won. They don't necessarily share the details though, or keep any information that is publicly accessible up to date. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. This is what I figured and wanted to be sure of, and it's pretty similar to most other countries. Wards are an electoral division of cities/municipalities as opposed to being in the system of administrative divisions. Since I got that out of the way, this gives me another question: When cities or municipalities want to expand into surrounding areas and they don't annex entire upazilas/thanas, are they required to annex entire union parishads/municipalities/cities (administrative divisions) or can they simply annex specific wards (electoral divisons) of those union parishads/municipalities/cities. To put it more simply, do you know of any cities/municipalities which have jurisdiction over only parts of territory adjacent union parishads or other cities/municipalities? --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:59, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
@Criticalthinker: I've never before had occasion to dig into these questions in depth. What I found upends some of my assumptions. Read on. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

2011 Census[edit]

The key source for Dhaka census data is: "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. It gives the following historical background:

The Dhaka Municipality was established in 1864 ... The municipal committee was reconstituted as paurashava in 1972 ... In 1983 it was replaced as Dhaka Municipal Corporation and finally in 1991 it got the status of a city corporation.[1]

When the report refers to the city (usually as Dhaka City, but also Dhaka Metropotitan [sic] City or Dhaka Metropolitan Area) it means an area larger than that covered by Dhaka City Corporation (DCC). A third entity, Dhaka Mega City, larger than Dhaka City, is mentioned briefly.

Dhaka City[edit]

The report describes the city as follows:

[The city] consists of 42 thanas including Dhaka City Corporation with 92 wards, 2 restricted areas, and 837 mahallas and its adjoining 17 unions as other urban area. The thanas are Adabar, Badda, Bangshal, Bimanbandar, Cantonment, Chakbazar, Darusalam, Demra, Dakshin Khan, Dhanmondi, Gendaria, Ghulshan, Hazaribagh, Jatrabari, Kadamtali, Kafrul, Kalabagan, Kamrangir Char, Khilgaon, Khilkhet, Kotwali, Lalbagh, Mirpur, Mohammadpur, Motijheel, Newmarket, Palton, Pallabi, Ramna, Rampura, Sabujbagh, Shah Ali, Shahbagh, Sher-e-Bangla Nagar, Shyampur, Sutrapur, Tejgaon, Tejgaon Industrial area, Tongi, Uttara, Uttar Khan and Wari.[1]

Their phrasing is difficult to parse without studying their tables, and I hope you can come up with a clearer explanation. Breaking it down, Dhaka City consists of the 42 listed thanas. Another way to put it is that Dhaka City consists of DCC plus 2 restricted areas and 17 union parishads. Those 17 unions are parts of 12 of the thanas, specifically the portions of those thanas that extend outside DCC. (Four of those unions are split among thanas, something I didn't know could happen).

Union
Badda Beraid Bhatara Dakshingaon Dakshinkhan Demra Dhania Dumni Harirampur Manda Matuail Nasirabad Saralia Satarkul Shyampur Sultanganj Uttar Khan
Thana Badda
Biman Bandar part
Dakshinkhan part
Demra part
Jatrabari part part
Kadamtali part part
Kamrangirchar
Khilgaon part
Khilkhet part
Sabujbag part
Turag
Uttarkhan

The city is divided into 92 wards, but one doesn't need to know that to understand the census area and population. The number of mahallas is also a red herring.

According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, Dhaka City had an area of 315.98 sq km, and a population of 8,906,039.[2] According to the 2001 census, it had an area of 1371 sq km, and a population of 9,672,763.[3] There is a discussion, that I will leave to you to read, of how the census bureau abandoned the concept of Statistical Metropolitan Areas (SMAs) after the 2001 census and how that makes comparisons between the censuses difficult.[4]

DCC[edit]

Historical population
YearPop. (000)±%
1981 2,476—    
1991 3,613+45.9%
2001 5,327+47.4%
2011 6,970+30.8%
2011 population excludes the restricted areas of Biman Bandar and Cantonment
Source:
Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics[5]

According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, DCC had an area of 126.34 sq km, and a population of 6,970,105.[2] The 2011 census excluded from DCC the two restricted areas, Biman Bandar and Cantonment, which previously had been included in the DCC line item. I believe this accounts for the decrease in the area of DCC from 153.84 sq km in 2001. The exclusion of the restricted areas also decreased population somewhat, but that was more than offset by population growth.

Dhaka Mega City[edit]

The report doesn't say much about Dhaka Mega City, but it is evident that they define it as Dhaka City plus five paruashavas (municipal corporations), and six upazilas. The paruashavas are: Gazipur, Tongi, Savar, Narayanganj, and Kadam Rasul. The upazilas are: Keraniganj, Bandar, Narayanganj Sadar, Gazipur Sadar, and Savar Upazila. According to the 2011 Bangladesh census, Dhaka Mega City had a population of 14,171,567.[6]

Subsequent events[edit]

After the 2011 census, DCC was split into DNCC and DSCC.

In May 2016, DNCC was expanded from 82.63 sq km to 114.58 square kilometres (44.24 sq mi), and DSCC was expanded from 45 sq km to 64.17 square kilometres (24.78 sq mi).[7][8]

Basic arithmetic is not original research, so we should be able to compute the population, as of 2011, of the area now within the bounds of DNCC and DSCC. This post is getting long, so I'll leave that for another day. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 55. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
  2. ^ a b "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 58. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
  3. ^ "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 24. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
  4. ^ "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 9. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
  5. ^ "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 102. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
  6. ^ "Population & Housing Census 2011: National Report Volume-3: Urban Area Report" (PDF). Bangladesh Bureau of Statistics. p. 11. Retrieved 3 March 2017.
  7. ^ Partha Pratim Bhattacharjee; Mahbubur Rahman Khan (7 May 2016). "Govt to double size of Dhaka city area". The Daily Star.
  8. ^ "Dhaka City expands by more than double after inclusion of 16 union councils". bdnews24.com. 9 May 2016.

Thanks. This is a lot to take in but it answer basically all of my questions. To sum everything up:

- Like in most places I've studied, municipal and administrative divisions are two different layers. As an example, we've learned that city/municipal/union councils can exist in multiple thanas/upazilas. These municipalities are overlaid atop the administrative divisions.

- Apparently, when Dhaka's two city corporations annex land from surrounding municipalities, they annex entire council areas and not just parts of the council areas.

- Dhaka City Corporation (now split between DNCC and DSCC) is what we'd call a "city proper" and this is what the page should be centered around as it relates to the population and area listed in the infobox and throughout. So, at the most recent census (2011) we had a city proper with a population of 6,970,105 at 127.63 sq km in size. While we won't have an official population until the next census (though, there are certainly estimates), what we do know is that the city proper with the addition of 16 union councils has now added an additional 178.75 sq km to the existing 127.63 square miles for a total area of 306.38 sq km.

- Dhaka "City" is a statistical area/definition that adds in close-by suburbs. To better differentiate it from the city proper, I'd most likely almost always refer to it by it's official name to avoid confusion: Dhaka Statistical Metropolitan Area. What I'm far less clear of is the whole 42 thanas thing, so it'd need to be specified which of these thanas are totally within the two city corporations, which whole thanas exist outside of the two city corporations, and then finally which parts (union councils) of the remaining thanas are included. I'm not sure if the 42 number is just the thanas in the city corporations or if the 42 number is whole thanas and parts of others.

Anyway, thanks, again. If you ever need me for any advice if you ever try to clarify the page, always feel free to ask. --Criticalthinker (talk) 12:37, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Actually, the more I think about this the more I want a list so we know which complete thanas/upazilas and which parts of others (the unions) make up the two municipal corporations. I want to be able to clearly define this. Also, do you happen to know the translation of the texts on this map in the map's key? Because that might help with this. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to bug you Worldbruce, but were you ever able to compile a list of all of the thanas completely under the jurisdiction of the two Dhaka city corporations, and then those union councils under the city coporations in the adjacent thanas/upazilas?
Hello? --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:22, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi Criticalthinker. Your question is not forgotten. I was on the road, and consequently not editing, for a couple months earlier this year, and have never caught up from that. As near as I recall, all the necessary information is in the above references, it's just a matter of digging it out. Anyone can do that, you don't have to wait for me. I don't think the map on the Dhaka District page contains enough detail to be useful for your purpose. The legend reads, from top to bottom: District borders, Thana, Union, Thana headquarters, and District headquarters. What it calls thanas have, since 1984, been called upazilas, it doesn't show any subdivisions within the city, and it doesn't show all the unions. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:12, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
I only ask you, because I have tried researching this myself. You've layed out many of the problems I find: the maps don't show the thana/upazilas, or the ones that do don't show the unions. It becomes even more difficult given that I don't speak or read the language. Curiously, there seems to be many maps showing the wards, but those aren't administrative divisions of the state. We've nailed down that the two municipal corporations includes both thanas in their entirety (though, we still don't have a comprehensive list of even these), but also that they include only parts of thanas (unions), too, but nailing down which of those unions belong to the two city corporations has proven very difficult. --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:44, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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thanks for the feedback re COI[edit]

Hello, how do I report a COI exactly? Can you help me find a fair editor for my AfC request? The first four were biased and could not read, quote, or interpret wiki policy in proper detail!! :x Skinduptruk (talk) 12:30, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

@Skinduptruk: There isn't exactly one way to declare a COI. I recommend starting by placing on User:Skinduptruk a statement such as:

I am Kurt Pudniks.

I have a conflict of interest with regard to the autobiography Draft:Kurt Pudniks. I am aware of the applicable policies and guidelines, and will abide by them. I submitted the draft through articles for creation in accordance with WP:COIEDIT. I understand that I do not own it and it may be edited mercilessly. If it is published, I will propose any changes via its talk page rather than editing it directly.

Aim for simplicity, clarity, and transparency. Your goal with the declaration is to acknowledge that you have a COI, briefly explain its nature, convince people that you know what you're getting into, and reassure everyone that you will always put the encyclopedia's interests above your own. It might help to also say something about why you're here, such as "I am Kurt Pudniks. My primary interests are physics, Tokelau, and Medieval legal history." That's up to you.
I have added {{connected contributor}} to the talk page of the draft, and will update it to point to your declaration when you've made it.
In any thread in which you talk about your autobiograhy, disclose your COI (which may be done by linking to your user page declaration). --Worldbruce (talk) 15:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
At last a reply that makes sense! Sounds good, will do as you suggest. Thanks for the link to connected contributor. btw what do you think about the first two editor's draft rejections and the comments by Newyorkactuary? Skinduptruk (talk) 08:53, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
I haven't looked at the draft closely, but will do so when I have time, perhaps on Monday or Tuesday if another volunteer doesn't get to it first. It will be evaluated on its own merits. Reviewing other reviews would not be productive. Huon, Primefac, and NewYorkActuary have extensive experience in article creation and deletion. Any editor can make a mistake, but if they've offered you advice about the draft, then odds are it's sound advice. --Worldbruce (talk) 22:13, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
I get the feeling they are experienced. But they would just launch into obscure assertions & assumptions eg. show us 3x "non-political" news items. Or that Mr. Pyne is biased "because he endorsed you". I'm like well he said that based off his opinion. Then Huon said "Trump fact checks are news". Bizzare stuff I'm afraid :/ Your replies are infinity times more sensible and coherent so I look forward to your review against wiki policy (WP:POLOUTCOMES from memory)... did you get a chance to look? ;) Skinduptruk (talk) 06:27, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

You helped me once about article thank you! But it wasn't enough can you please help me again[edit]

Hello Worldbruce I want to thank you by helping me trying to put active article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Saint_Joanikije_Devi%C4%8Dki). But sadly the men who should approve it did not again, said that sources you sent me was not reliable. I do not understand what source he wants now? I have putted every single source you sent me as an answer and plus we have you further reading and still isn't enough. Can you help somehow to fix that, and change mind of this stubborn man about my article ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semantron (talkcontribs) 08:52, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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أبو هشام السوعان (talk · contribs) أبو هشام السوعان's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Society and Arts, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2017-6-25 84 Newcomer invite survey
Siliconred (talk · contribs) Siliconred's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Arts and People, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2017-10-3 82 Newcomer invite survey
Aster 72000 (talk · contribs) Aster 72000 made 15 out of their most recent 500 edits to articles within the scope of your project. 2008-9-17 183 Experienced Editor invite survey
Ayomoy (talk · contribs) Ayomoy made 309 out of their most recent 500 edits to articles within the scope of your project. 2016-9-7 916 Experienced Editor invite survey
Phonet (talk · contribs) Phonet's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Arts and People, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2018-1-3 469 Experienced Editor invite survey
FredTC (talk · contribs) FredTC's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Society and Arts, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2008-11-21 171 Experienced Editor invite survey
EmperorNapoléonI (talk · contribs) EmperorNapoléonI edited articles similar to articles your project members edited. For example, EmperorNapoléonI and your project member WorldTraveller101 (talk · contribs) edited 5 of the same articles in their most recent 500 edits. 2014-7-24 245 Experienced Editor invite survey
Correctinfo2000 (talk · contribs) Correctinfo2000 edited articles similar to articles your project members edited. For example, Correctinfo2000 and your project member Dwaipayanc (talk · contribs) edited 3 of the same articles in their most recent 500 edits. 2017-12-15 108 Experienced Editor invite survey

Please let me know below if you have any general feedback about our recommendations. Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 05:19, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Worldbruce, Just wonder if you had any chance to look at the recommendations I sent? Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 22:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi Worldbruce, I update the recommendation list sent to you earlier. I fixed some bugs in the previous version (as you might have seen that some editors on the previous list were not quite active). Very sorry about it, but now, everything should be good! Please take a look, and let me know what you think! Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 16:55, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi Worldbruce, please take a look at those recommendations if you have a chance, and let me know what do you think. Thank you! I would also help invite some new members, but they are not the ones on this list. Bobo.03 (talk) 20:16, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Recommending new editors to WikiProject Bangladesh[edit]

Hi Worldbruce,

I am continuing to send you recommendations for WikiProject Bangladesh. Please take a look when you get a chance. Thank you!

Username Why we recommend this editor First Edit Date Total Edits in ENWP Editor Status Invite Survey
Khadijashafiq (talk · contribs) Khadijashafiq's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Arts and Society, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2018-1-4 25 Newcomer invite survey
Nicoleedalat (talk · contribs) Nicoleedalat's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Arts and Geography, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2017-12-25 15 Newcomer invite survey
Microsoftguru (talk · contribs) Microsoftguru made 41 out of their most recent 28 edits to articles within the scope of your project. 2014-10-3 28 Newcomer invite survey
NJ Husein (talk · contribs) NJ Husein made 14 out of their most recent 20 edits to articles within the scope of your project. 2017-7-23 20 Newcomer invite survey
Aadhira68 (talk · contribs) Aadhira68 edited articles similar to articles your project members edited. For example, Aadhira68 and your project member Robiaid (talk · contribs) edited 5 of the same articles in their most recent 69 edits. 2017-12-1 69 Newcomer invite survey
Correctified (talk · contribs) Correctified edited articles similar to articles your project members edited. For example, Correctified and your project member Twofortnights (talk · contribs) edited 158 of the same articles in their most recent 67 edits. 2018-2-13 67 Newcomer invite survey
Electric Ant more like Elctric Can! (talk · contribs) Electric Ant more like Elctric Can!'s editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Society and History, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2016-1-12 130 Experienced Editor invite survey
Llewee (talk · contribs) Llewee's editing history suggests a strong match with your project. Most articles they have edited fall under the Category Arts and Society, and most of your project's articles also fall under these categories. Studies have found that editors with a stronger topic match with a project tend to edit more and stay longer in the project! 2016-12-10 124 Experienced Editor invite survey
Bang Bang50 (talk · contribs) Bang Bang50 edited articles similar to articles your project members edited. For example, Bang Bang50 and your project member Titodutta (talk · contribs) edited 4 of the same articles in their most recent 117 edits. 2018-1-4 117 Experienced Editor invite survey
Correctified (talk · contribs) Correctified edited articles similar to articles your project members edited. For example, Correctified and your project member Twofortnights (talk · contribs) edited 158 of the same articles in their most recent 264 edits. 2018-2-13 264 Experienced Editor invite survey
Hamza Ali Shah (talk · contribs) Hamza Ali Shah made 11 out of their most recent 168 edits to articles within the scope of your project. 2018-2-23 168 Experienced Editor invite survey
Golok17che060 (talk · contribs) Golok17che060 made 106 out of their most recent 122 edits to articles within the scope of your project. 2018-2-19 122 Experienced Editor invite survey

Bobo.03 (talk) 04:53, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Fareast International University[edit]

FIU Logo.png Fareast International University
Hi Worldbruce, I'm from the information & publication wing of Fareast International University, Banani, Dhaka, Bangladesh. Thanks for your appreciation. Our Hon'ble Chairman, BoT, Mr. Sheikh Kabir Hossain do not want to display this information "It was founded by Sheikh Kabir Hossain, relative of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina." It was inserted in Wiki by someone else not from FIU. So that's why it has been removed. Thanks again for your understanding. Mshm24 (talk) 09:37, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

traded_as issue[edit]

Dear Worldbruce, you gave me a task about adding traded_as perameter in infobox. I have looked at this list and added the perameter in some articles from the list. Most of the companies, in that list, are not notable. So, I found only 12 articles in wikipedia. However, let me know about my progress and give me suggestion if I do any wrong. If you have any tast/project/cleaning up work like this, please give me a chance to do the work. I will be very happy to do that.- Rafi (talk) 16:46, 10 May 2018 (UTC)


Humayun Azad's writings[edit]

@WB, Humayun Azad was an atheist writer from Bangladesh (a poor and conservative Muslim-majority country), Azad had tried to remove all kind of conservatism (including sexual taboos) from the country writing books like Aloukik Ishtimar, Kobi Othoba Dondito Aupurush and Ekti Khuner Swapna, please don't try to delete the pages, I want to publicize his writings (article about the books have already been written in Bengali Wikipedia). Fayaz Rahman (talk) 07:53, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

WB, the articles will be deleted, I want to have them delete, I was the main author (failing to add enough source and also the books are not popular). Fayaz Rahman (talk) 08:05, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Spicy Onion part deux[edit]

Hi W, just to follow up on the Spicy Onion query at WP:ICTF, your evaluations were correct--no obvious editorial standard, no presumption of fact-checking or accuracy, etc. Many of these sorts of references are no-brainers and you can basically tell by looking at them that they all follow the same general cookie-cutter blog shape. A rough list of sites that are/are not considered reliable can be found at WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources, and a more detailed list can be found at WP:ICTFFAQ. However the human eyes are sometimes the best gauge: if it looks like a blog, kill it with fire. Many of these sorts of sites simply scrape information from other sources. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:54, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Hello, Worldbruce. I'd like to thank you again for your recent assistance with a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. It's much appreciated. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 22:25, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Objection to redirect of The North Jefferson News[edit]

I have been away from Wikipedia and did not see the deletion request for The North Jefferson News. If I had, I would have certainly objected. The nominator merely said it fails WP:GNG but gave no supporting evidence whatsoever. The NJN is a weekly newspaper that is part of the CNHI chain, and other weeklies within that chain have articles. This newspaper has been in business for nearly half a century, and the article about it has been around for nine years with only a quickly-removed PROD that was not acted upon further.

If there is away to object to this redirect after the deadline, I wish to do so now. I see no way in which this newspaper fails GNG. (By the way, I retired two years ago, though I still do freelance work, and I no longer have any association with this newspaper.) Realkyhick (talk) 04:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Realkyhick. You're an old hand, so I don't need to tell you that swaying consensus takes arguments based on policies and guidelines. I don't mean to come across as teaching grandmother to suck eggs, but I don't know how active you've been at AfD recently, so:
There are ways to object to a redirection as a result of a deletion discussion, they are outlined in Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted? The best way to change an outcome, however, is to come up with really strong sources that demonstrate notability. The article has only been redirected, so you are welcome to spin it out again if you identify such sources. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:33, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm an old hand, but not nearly as active as an editor as I used to be. I think the fact that The North Jefferson News has served its community for nearly 50 years is probably enough on its own to prove notability, even more so since The Birmingham News, once the dominant metro newspaper, has cut back its coverage in that area significantly. I did a quick Google search on Wikipedia itself and found at least a dozen times when The North Jefferson News was cited as a source, probably more (I stopped after a dozen). Full disclosure: I wrote many of the stories cited, since I was the primary reporter there since the time the NJN went online until I retired two years ago. So my question now is, how do I restore the article after it has gone through an AfD, though that AfD was only commented on by you and the original nominator? Realkyhick (talk) 21:40, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Humayun Azad's photo[edit]

@WB, please see the profile picture of Humayun Azad article, should the previous versions of this picture be deleted?. Fayaz Rahman (talk) 04:22, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

I've uploaded a photo of that man in wikimedia commons, will that be deleted or not?. Fayaz Rahman (talk) 04:36, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
The image is copyrighted, and you aren't the photographer, so it will be deleted from commons. I think a bot will take care of any previous versions on Wikipedia, and you don't need to do anything about them. The current image, shot from a low angle, with high contrast, and something in the background at the upper left, is unflattering. Some crop or other version of [3] would be better. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:16, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Frank Leslie's on Gale[edit]

Hello, I was wondering how did you get access to the pages here? Can you send me the link? I just got access to Gale. KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:20, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

At the time, I was at a library that provided access, so there isn't a link I can send you. Gale, like all the large players, is divided into many subscription packages, so there's no guarantee that the Gale you have access to will include Frank Leslie's Illustrated Newspaper, but it's a starting point for searchers. My best guess is that it was in their "19th Century U.S. Newspapers" collection. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:13, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Done with wiki editing.[edit]

Wanna block me? Go ahead. As if I cared. People like you make the wiki stupid. Get a life!

Declaration issue: User: Sharath RK Teja[edit]

Hi Bruce, Thanks for calling out the problem. I work for the company that owns grptalk app, which I forgot to mention only because I'm new to Wikipedia edits thing. It wasn't intentional. I wish to rectify the mistake and need your help in doing so. Thanks, Sharath — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharath RK Teja (talkcontribs) 06:54, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

@Sharath RK Teja: The place to declare you connection is User:Sharath RK Teja. Complete details are in or linked to from User talk:Sharath RK Teja#Declare any connection. --Worldbruce (talk) 07:00, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hello, Worldbruce. Thank you again for your help at WP:REREQ. It's much appreciated. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 23:36, 3 October 2018 (UTC)