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Merchant of Venice

Thanks for deleting the religious section. I didn't want to be too bold.

Eric144 (talk) 18:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


Please add and revise! I apologize if I sound defensive. Too many lunatics descend on the page and add unsourced nonsense. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 20:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

ROTL. You are doing it too. Shakespeare did not use the AV 'cause it didn't come out until 1611!!!! The Tempest came out in 1611...his last known play. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 20:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Hmmmmm. Maybe I'm misreading you. Shakespeare is most likely to have used the Geneva Bible, which is what you said, right? Anyway, any author before 1700 is unlikely to have used or been influenced by the AV. Apologies for my comprehension. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 20:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, okay, I get it now. Wrad (talk) 20:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Yup. I was confused by the syntax. I thought your parathentical comment was about the AV. Isn't texting wonderful. At least we didn't start blocking each other and and taking it to ArbCom. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 20:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Heads up

Ottava Rima has a long block log. And, he claims to read Spanish: see User:Ottava Rima. Hopefully, this will cool down. And, sorry for my stupidity above:-) Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 02:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

No prob. Wrad (talk) 02:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

To someone well-deserving

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For being the "father" of WikiProject Brigham Young University, supporting it alone for so long, and continuing to improve it still today. Cheers! Eustress (talk) 01:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


That's great to hear! Thanks.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 00:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:2007big12.GIF

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Updated DYK query On 22 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Three Witches, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bobet 01:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar of Murder!!

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On behalf of Murder, Madness, and Mayhem, this barnstar is to thank you for your hard work and patience in motivating, mentoring, and moulding the work of student editors, and helping them to achieve excellence in research and writing. As coordinator of the FA-Team's Mission 1, as well as an individual editor, you did a fantastic job. Thank you so much!
On behalf of the entire class of UBC's SPAN312. --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 00:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


Nope, not doing the review, just giving a hand. I saw what I thought are some significant issues and I don't have a lot of time to contribute to fixing them directly, so I wanted them identified so someone could start addressing them before the Review finished. That's all.
Jim Dunning | talk 23:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Transmission of Greek philosophical ideas in the Middle Ages

I left some comments on the talk page of that article. Don't take it too bad. Hinnibilis (talk) 18:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Wrad (talk) 18:22, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
In fact I've worked on it a little. Take a look sometime. Hinnibilis (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Done much more work on this, as you see. Thank you for reminding me of the need for references! Do you think this could make a featured article? Would you be able to help? I've never gone through this process before. Hinnibilis (talk) 19:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
We can certainly go for GA! After that we'll see how it looks. Wrad (talk) 19:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Note it needs another few weeks work. Also there are some things you say there that are somewhat confusing - you have given references which I do not have. Perhaps we could discuss later. I am signing off for tonight, it being Europe. Best wishes from the horse. Hinnibilis (talk) 19:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Sure. Wrad (talk) 19:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

WPBYU Collaboration for May

This month's WP BYU Collaboration of the Month is J. Reuben Clark Law School. I look forward to working with you to improve the article. Thank you! --Eustress (talk) 20:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

The line [which shall] stretch out until the crack of doom

Sure, I'll be happy to do the CE, and by all means, let's find out what someone else thinks. I'll copyedit it tomorrow. – Scartol • Tok 00:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Wrad, I just wanted to stop by and apologizing for not doing the CE yet. Some stuff came up, but I should get to it today or tomorrow. Apologies. – Scartol • Tok 11:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Sure. Wrad (talk) 11:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'm all done with the copyedit. A couple of comments:
  • The last part of "Source" feels out of place. Starting with "In any case, Shakespeare manages to separate Banquo from the King's murder...", these sentences seem more appropriate in the "Foil to Macbeth" section.
  • Sometimes King is capitalized and sometimes it's not; you should decide which way you want to go and standardize them. (Usually king is only capitalized when referring to a specific named king, as in King James I.)
  • The tenses sometimes move around. I've tried to align them all with the literary present (Banquo is merely setting aside his sword...), but you should take another look to be sure I didn't miss any.

Kudos for all your hard work so far, and good luck with this article! – Scartol • Tok 15:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Wrad (talk) 15:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Homeschooling May 2008 Newsletter

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WP BYU Weekly Collab

Hello. I've been picking the WPBYU Collaborations of the Week lately and was wondering if you would like to pick one for this month. I'm not the leader of the WP, just trying to keep the ball rolling. I'd, subsequently, be willing to send out a message to all on the WP to apprise them of your selection. If you're not interested just let me know. Thanks! --Eustress (talk) 04:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I never heard back from you, so I went ahead and chose. Thanks! --Eustress (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Poetry

Why on earth did you delete me from the list of participants?--Poetlister (talk) 12:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

We had a project roll call and whoever didn't answer was removed. Wrad (talk) 18:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

The FA-Team

Hi. There has been some discussion of how to improve the FA-Team's functioning. It's be grand if you could comment on the new suggested structure, and perhaps also look at our current proposals. Thanks. --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 18:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Arabic Wikipedia

Very Honorable Ward, I just want to ask if you can speak Arabic. Because, there is an account on Arabic wp (ar:مستخدم:ورادر) that tells that you have created it. Thank you very much. --DrFO.Jr.Tn (talk) 20:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Brigham Young University Collaboration for June 2008

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The current WPBYU collaboration for the period ending June 30, 2008 is:

BYU Jerusalem Center

Our July 2008 project is TBD. If you would like to nominate an article for a future project or see what articles we've already collaborated on, please visit the Collaboration talk page.

Thanks to all those who helped out with May's collaborative project (J. Reuben Clark Law School) and other BYU-related articles. I look forward to working with you on this month's article. Go Cougars! --Eustress (talk) 16:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

BYU Jerusalem Center

Hello. I noticed you just added some text saying that the JC was dedicated by Howard W. Hunter; however, the source in the Lead section says it was dedicated by Ezra Taft Benson. I'm pretty sure it was Benson but wanted to see if you would like to look into it first. Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 17:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I investigated a little more and found another reputable source...turns out that Hunter (then-President of the Q12) dedicated the Center while Benson was Pres. of the LDS Church. Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 18:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello again. You're doing great work on the article, and I just wanted to submit a friendly reminder that if we use WP:Cite web formatting as we go, it will save us a lot of time when we nominate the article for GA status. Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 20:49, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I usually just write a quick rough draft and then add the template in later. Wrad (talk) 20:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

You know... If we wrote to BYU I bet they'd let us use some nice pictures of theirs for these articles. Wrad (talk) 22:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

lol...I was just looking at and thinking the same thing :) --Eustress (talk) 23:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Mormon leaders calling BYU the flagship

I think it's neutral, informative, and necessary to indicate that BYU has been described as the flagship. The Bateman talk I link to is great. Check it out. A BYU outsider, someone from Korea, for example, should be able to know from Wikipedia that BYU is the de facto flagship in Mormonism. The church avoids formally stating this probably to avoid insulting people to go to BYU-Idaho, Hawaii, and LDSBC. But that doesn't change the fact that it's true. P. S. don't revert my change more than 3 times in one day... JackWilliams (talk) 01:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

This introduces nothing new and your addition "Mormon leaders" is much too simplistic to cause anything but unbalanced confusion on the flagship issue. Wrad (talk) 01:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Confusion is not knowing that BYU-Provo is a much better Mormon school than all the others. Outsiders need to know this. Let's make this article useful.JackWilliams (talk) 01:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Get your thick head out of your prideful rear end and try to get it wrapped around the idea that BYU isn't the best school in the system. It isn't. Wrad (talk) 01:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, it has nothing to do with pride. Yes, I went to BYU-Provo. But I didn't go to Harvard. I have no problem saying that Harvard is a better school than BYU-Provo. If I had gone to BYU-Idaho, I would like to think that I would be neutral enough to admit that BYU-Provo is better than BYU-Idaho. Wikipedia should be neutral and informative. Saying that BYU-Provo is the flagship of Mormon schools is both. I even link to a talk by Mormon leaders who say that BYU is the flagship!JackWilliams (talk) 01:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
That is just blatant POV and untrue. Each school has its strength. And it's funny how you say Mormon leaders when only one or two people have ever said such a thing! And that was 20-30 years ago! It's just plain false! Wrad (talk) 01:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Bateman, Kimball, Romney, Oaks, and Maeser. Bateman said it not too long ago. (I think in 2001). And what proof do you have that "it's just plain false" ? JackWilliams (talk) 01:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

All I see in your citation is Kimball. One person. I see no citations for your list here. You're going to have to do better than that. Wrad (talk) 01:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

La Fábula de Polifemo y Galatea

Hello Wrad, apologies for imposing, but I'm trying to bypass the diffusion of responsibility at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poetry#La Fábula de Polifemo y Galatea. How would you like to adopt this article/user? I found them by chance on Newpages and I'll feel better if I know that someone experienced in the field is looking after them. Melchoir (talk) 07:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


Based on your number of edits, you can update your contribution badge to one of these. Just thought you might want to know. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD help

Hi Wrad, this is fairly out of the blue but I was wondering if you might be able to lend some language expertise over at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Faik Zaghloul. I went looking for an experienced editor who was active and had some knowledge of Arabic and you seemed to fit the bill (this page partially led me here). The article on Ali Faik Zaghloul claims that he was one of the more important Egyptian radio presenters. English-language Google searches are not turning up much of anything, and no one with knowledge of Arabic has commented at the AfD yet so efforts to search for the name in Arabic scripts have not yielded much either. You'll note that there's a version of this article on the Arabic language Wiki as well but we don't know if it's sourced or what it says. If we can't get more information on Zaghloul the article will probably be deleted since the information is not verifiable at this point, which would be a shame if he is who the article claims to be and therefore does warrant an article (he seems notable enough if the article is accurate). If you have some time I'm wondering if you might have a look at the Arab language version of the article and/or Google around in Arabic sources to see if anything turns up. Alternatively if you're busy and/or if there's someone else with good knowledge of Arabic whom you could recommend that would be much appreciated. Not a big deal no matter what (I just happened to be the admin considering whether to close the AfD as delete or not), but we were kind of in the dark with respect to that article which is why I re-listed it for discussion, but so far no one has been able to shed any light on the situation. Thanks!--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 05:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Reflist question

I saw that you changed {{reflist}} to {{reflist|2}} at the Greensburg article. Obviously, there's some benefit to it, or (1) it wouldn't be a template feature, and (2) you wouldn't have done it :-) However, I can't see any differences; can you explain what they are? Nyttend (talk) 02:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

When I looked at the page, it was one column, even after you made the change. Is there perhaps something that I've disabled with my settings? Nyttend (talk) 03:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

FA-Team Mission 4

Mission 4, a series of articles on the Everglades, could do with help from the FA-Team! Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 13:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

BYU Jerusalem Center

I've added a few comments to the GA review. I apologize for not placing the article on hold. Farside6 (talk) 03:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I've passed the article. Good work. Farside6 (talk) 08:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad it all worked out in the end. Farside6 (talk) 20:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating geo lists

Hi I've made an intital suggestion at the GEOBOT talk page in that it would be an excellent idea to generate a full lists of places in a tabled list. Once this is accomplished we can work through what articles could be started in their own right if there is enough info avilabale. I see it as a solid comprehensive base to build geo content on if we have a full world list organized like this. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography/Bot#Creating lists. Please offer your thoughts thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 14:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

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