User talk:Xania

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From time to time older comments on this page will be deleted. I don't archive anything but as this is a Wiki everything can be found by checking the history

Some baklava for you![edit]

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG Thanks for defusing the situation! Wehwalt (talk) 22:18, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Manchester Metrolink[edit]

Xania; please note the following discussion from the Metrolink talk page. If you have suggestions as to how best to deal with the obsolete map, they will be most welcome. My own view is that it is now redundant, but I will not proceed to removing it without consensus agreement. TomHennell (talk) 15:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

User:Xania has added a sentence into the text noting the non-appearance of the airport line on a 'nearby' map. In my view, if such a note is needed, then it should be applied to the map itself (although even better to update the map). May I suggest removing the sentence? TomHennell (talk) 11:08, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

The map in question is this one - it doesn't yet have the airport line. Instead of inserting awkward editorial commentary into the article, it might be more productive for someone to drop a friendly note to the creator of this map, User:Jza84, and ask him/her to update it. I'm sure they'll be happy to help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cnbrb (talkcontribs) 12:37, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I tried removing it, but I was reverted again, and Xania (talk · contribs) sent me this message. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I propose removing it, and informing Xania that notes as to updating the maps are best discussed here; not intruded in the main text. TomHennell (talk) 15:17, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Done. I now suggeest removing the accompanying map altogether, at least until (like the big map) it can be updated? TomHennell (talk) 15:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Excuse me @TomHennell? Stop being so patronising. My addition was necessary and not merely a comment or note. Until the map is updated what I wrote is perfectly fine (don't remove the map). I hope I was only treated in such a patronising way because I am an old-time editor. I really, really hope you would never treat a newbie in such a way. The response to my simple, minor edits is a perfect example as to why most new editors never return and why fewer people contribute to the project these days. The level of debate over a simple edit is quite pathetic.--XANIA - ЗAНИAWikipedia talk | Wikibooks talk 18:53, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Making a clickable imagemap[edit]

Imagemaps are one of the oldest and most promising advanced display systems available on Wikipedia, and are not in of themselves a complicated tool; however most users are either unaware of their existence or of the existence of tools meant to assist with making them.

There are a few ways to approach making interactive images on Wikimedia software:

  • Create an image or graphic incorporating labels embedded within the graphic itself, which are then brought out via an ImageMap. This is what I did in {{Volcanic Eruption Map}}, and if you have some experience with making vector graphics it's the most widely applicable option. However, I confess that I'm surprised that you find this particular example so appealing! The image itself is suboptimal, and was eventually removed from the page it was intended for: a little bit of interactivity doesn't save the fact that it's a crowded, uninformative graphic. If you want to make good imagemaps you need two things: some vector editing skills, or someone with them at the image workshops, or a compelling image you've found "in the wild"; and this script.
  • However, generally speaking it's better to instead create or instantiate an image and then lay blue-links over it, as, for instance, here or here. This is prettier, jives with Wikimedia formatting better, more clearly informs your audience of the interactivity of the graphic, does not cover up the link to the image underneath, and doesn't force you to qualify your image as a "clickable imagemap" in the caption. This requires the use of {{Location map}} or {{Image label}}. However there are no tools that I am aware of to assist with actually positioning the text: I've always had to do it manually, through trial and error.

I hope you find this helpful; I've had the intention to create some sort of a tutorial describing the process for a long, long time, but those interests died away with my general level of involvement in the project (almost nill, nowadays) a while ago. ResMar 22:10, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your reply (and the message over at Wikibooks). I saw your message but I have a tendency to forget to reply if I don't reply immediately. What youve said will prove very useful and I'll give it a go when I have some free time. Thanks for your help.--XANIA - ЗAНИAWikipedia talk | Wikibooks talk 16:52, 22 February 2015 (UTC)