User talk:Yakudza19

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Stop by at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Martial_arts to see other activities in martial arts in Wikipedia. jmcw (talk) 13:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case[edit]

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You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yakudza19 for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. DAJF (talk) 12:43, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

January 2010[edit]

Information.png Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit that you made to the page Takayuki Kubota has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Please use the sandbox for testing any edits; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing for further information. Thank you. Trusilver 00:00, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Information.svg Please do not add content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did to Takayuki Kubota. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. --DAJF (talk) 00:16, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I added source - can't you read it please first? Yakudza19 (talk) 00:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC). Gimme please 30 minutes to finish editing.

Stop hand nuvola.svg Your addition to Takayuki Kubota has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. DAJF (talk) 01:46, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

You could clean that up instead of deleting, as you always did. Yakudza19 (talk) 10:10, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but just altering a few words here and there in text copied from other sources is not acceptable. Please read the warning I posted above carefully, and take note of the bit where it says "Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing". Seriously, you will get yourself blocked if you keep doing this. --DAJF (talk) 11:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Then every fact will be copyvio because no matter how do you write about it - it will be the same. I'm not just altered few words, I wrote my own text, based on the source that I mentioned on the text.
No, that is not the case. As I said, just changing a few words here and there does not resolve copyright issues. If you keep readding copyright text from magazines rather than trying to fix the problems raised, I will report you. --DAJF (talk) 01:56, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
You still dindnt outline text that you think paraphrased and just deleted my own text. That's your right to report me - maybe admins will do that as third-party people. Yakudza19 (talk) 12:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Blocked[edit]

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for Repeated Vandalism and Disruptive Editing. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. FASTILY (TALK) 04:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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Request reason:

Proves?

Decline reason:

That doesn't remotely address your block. Or anything for that matter. Smashvilletalk 14:39, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

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Request reason:

As far as I see the main reason why I was blocked because of paraphrasing? But according to Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing anybody who accuses me should outline closely paraphrased sentences. As you can see here User:DAJF didn't oultine in discussion, but deleted not just what he thinks paraphrased, but also my own text, that at the current time had been left in the article as not paraphrased. Also according Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#When is close paraphrase permitted? there might be situations of fair-use of paraphrasing. I think that situation include these 2 parapgraphs about crashed plane and hogs hunting, because there is no other written material available online, but facts are true and they proved for example in video of short biography and by representatives of Soke himself. There was no discussion, no search proves - nothing except blocking. I agree to rewrite that text - I just was busy a couple of days, or it could be done by User:DAJF already instead of deleting. So what's my point - there should be a discussion, not blocking.

Decline reason:

There is a discussion, right here on this page, right above the block notice. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:48, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I admit that I might made a mistake. Main reason was that I hoped somebody with priveleges (admin or patroling guy) will say their word before blocking me. I'm actively working on different articles in different languages. In the article Takayuki Kubota I found sources, books, started actors roles and many other things. So I would like to continue editing and asking for trial period - I will be more carefull next time and will ask before doing something that can be treated bad here. Yakudza19 (talk) 22:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

This request for unblocking has been declined due to your history of vandalism and/or disruption to this encyclopedia. However, we are willing to give you another chance provided that you can earn back the trust of the Wikipedia community. To be unblocked you need to demonstrate that you are willing and able to contribute positively to Wikipedia. You can do this by:
  • Familiarizing yourself with our basic rules.
  • Read our guide to improving articles
  • Pick any pre-existing article you wish to improve.
  • Click edit this page on that article and scroll down past the message informing you of your block.
  • Copy the source of that article and paste it to the bottom of your talk page under a new top-level heading (like this: = [[Article title]] =) and save the page before you improve it.
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  • When you are done with your work, re-request unblocking and an administrator will review your proposed edits.
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If you need help while working with your proposed edits, you may add "{{helpme|your question here}}" to your talk page. Thank you. Cirt (talk) 10:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I admit that I might made a mistake. I shouldn't post the text, that was User:DAJF mentioned as paraphrased until and if it would be clear that it's not or it will be made in acceptable version. I mean I had should discuss that first and write text (if it will be ok) later. As prove of my good intentions I improved article Takayuki Kubota as you can see later on my talk page. I would like to continue to work on it and many others, so I'm asking for unblock.

Decline reason:

I'm now satisfied that your unblock request got a full hearing. There has been a lengthy discussion at the bottom of this page. As an admin, I'm not willing to take on the burden of a full check of all your contributions to hunt for copyright problems. I was hoping you might give us a blanket assurance that might give us confidence in your future behavior. Your statements don't persuade me that you take all our policies seriously, especially copyright, so I'm declining the unblock. EdJohnston (talk) 22:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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Proposed edit[edit]

There will be links to sections in my talk-page of articles that I'm editing

title=Takayuki_Kubota&action=historysubmit&diff=337364573&oldid=337360793 that] state)

You must copy the entire article, then edit it, so that reviewing admins can see what you changed. You can't just edit it in parts without saving it as it was first, then the reviewing admins will not be able to see what you changed.— dαlus Contribs 11:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I thought it would be more clear to edit the sections, since I'm not planing to rearrange them in article, but I'll do as you say. So I will I copy existing article and move my changes to it on my talk page. Yakudza19 (talk) 13:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

{{helpme}} Is my contribution enough to start new {{unblock}} request? Asking just because if I'll make too many edits in article on my talk page it would be more difficult to sync them with original article. But I can make more ofcourse. Yakudza19 (talk) 14:52, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Yakudza19 worked a lot on this article (and several other linked: International Karate Association, Gosoku Ryu...). He added references, listed ranks, started to list film roles and added books. He added some facts of biography with references on sources. This is important work. The work on this article is continuing (Yakudza19, me and several other people) not only on en-Wiki (ru-Wiki, pl-Wiki, etc). Now a person, who knows the materials well (I mean Yakudza19, I know he read a lot of sources) cannot write an article. He should be unblocked =) Dragon24 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:21, 18 January 2010 (UTC). There are some more facts (to unblock): 1)sometimes I have to use the same IP (proxy), so I cannot edit on en-Wiki too (and according to the rules should be unblocked if there is shared IP with other editors). 2) There was no any explanation of blocking (It should be).--Dragon24 (talk) 18:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there was an explanation for the block, and it was clear. The editor was blocked for continued copyright violations and disruptive editing, in the manner of: violating copyright, then telling others to fix it, instead of doing so himself. That is not how wikipedia works.— dαlus Contribs 12:25, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. As you can see in history of article Takayuki Kubota, I where fixing problem step by step (for example here). And even User:DAJF agreed with it, because he whasn't deleting what I had fixed. And even now that text in article. Paraphrasing is not that easy question to just say that it's here. If you read Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing carefully, and especialy Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#When is close paraphrase permitted? you will understand what I mean. And because of that it's can't be considered as repetetive - I were trying to fix it, not just post the same text over and over. Also even User:DAJF returned fixed text to a copyvio state (here - is it vandalism or disruptive editing, or maybe just a mistake?. So I had to again undo his edit to return to it's normal state. Do you have an example, how should I say about fact, that "Takayuki Kubota where feeding Americans pilots from crashed plane in his father factory, who was a civilian adviser to local police due to his martial arts skill and agreed to hold prisoners, though local people wanted to torture or kill them, because they where angered by bombing of Kumamoto" and it will not be considered as paraphrasing? Or maybe it should be discussed by admin (since we don't have consensus with User:DAJF, who even not a patroling guy, so I don't have to trust him 100% on such difficult question) before blocking indefinitly? Yakudza19 (talk) 13:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Bad idea. As far as I see of the situation, you were warned continuously against adding copyright. You were given a final warning, then you went a head and did it again. Until you can recognize how this is a problem, I am not comfortable with your unblock.— dαlus Contribs 10:05, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Something, that was accused for paraphrasing should be proved - there were no proves for that. In Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#When is close paraphrase permitted? it says

It is also permitted when there are only a limited number of ways to say the same thing. In general, sentences like "Dr. John Smith earned his medical degree at State University" can be rephrased "John Smith earned his M.D. at State University" without copyright problems. Note, however, that closely paraphrasing extensively from a non-free source may be a copyright problem, even if it is difficult to find different means of expression. In Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service, the United States Supreme Court noted that factual compilations of information may be protected with respect to "selection and arrangement, so long as they are made independently by the compiler and entail a minimal degree of creativity," as "[t]he compilation author typically chooses which facts to include, in what order to place them, and how to arrange the collected data so that they may be used effectively by readers"; the Court also indicated that "originality is not a stringent standard; it does not require that facts be presented in an innovative or surprising way" and that "[t]he vast majority of works make the grade quite easily, as they possess some creative spark, 'no matter how crude, humble or obvious' it might be."[1]

When using a close paraphrase legitimately, citing a source is highly recommended, and in some cases, required.

I appeal to "It is also permitted when there are only a limited number of ways to say the same thing". Sourses were cited and text wasn't copied, but written by me. Did you read that part of rules? Because according of what are you saying I would say rather no, than yes. Yakudza19 (talk) 11:22, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I will say even more. According to rules, User:DAJF should "On the talk page, cite specific passages alongside the corresponding passage from the source to highlight their similarity; this will provide objective evidence of close paraphrasing." and he didn't it even now. Also User:DAJF was the reason to block first authors (User:Shihan 883, User:Sensei 0208, User:Sensei 2105). I know that this family uses 1 computer - but that's not the reason to block them. Even User:Dragon24 where under attack, but thanks god she has her personal computer. Because of all that I had reasons to believe, that his evidence was subjective, rather then objective.

I can agree on 1 point, that I could ask admins myself about paraphrasing here when User:DAJF told me that he will report me.

P.S. Since you read that till end - thank you =) Yakudza19 (talk) 13:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Could I suggest that you use a user sub-page for your proposed edit changes? If you click on User:Yakudza19/Takayuki Kubota, you will be given an option to create a page. Then you could move the source from this talk page to the new sub-page. This sub-page would look exactly like the main article and your talk page would be easier to read. This is a common technique to develop an article without on-going criticism. If you need any help, just ask! jmcw (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

{{helpme}}Did I understand right (see below)?

Ok, I will do that. Just to be sure, I should do:
  1. Create new page User:Yakudza19/Takayuki Kubota
  2. Copy old version of the article here
  3. Replace it with my proposed edit - so admins will see diffs.
Yes, that's it! Give it a try. By the way, I often take a complete copy of a page source and store it on my computer in a text file. My text editor lets me make a complete comparison/merge between two text files. jmcw (talk) 15:42, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Tried. Since I am blocked - I couldn't create this page =/. Also which text editor do you use?
I created it - I hope you can edit it. I use Notepad++ [2] - it is for Windows, it is free and it supports 50 languages. Make sure you install the Unicode version. jmcw (talk) 16:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your effors, but I can't edit anything except my talk page (I checked that page). I hope soon I will be unblocked - so there will be no such problem at all =). Yakudza19 (talk) 16:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

{{helpme}}If my proposal edits will be accepted, how they will be applied to original articles?

It will be up to the admin's decision. That's all there is. --FAIL!Talk 14:37, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

{{helpme}}Is it possible to allow me to create and edit my subpages, for example like User:Yakudza19/Takayuki Kubota? I'm asking because it would be more easy to make my proposal edits on separate pages.

That wouldn't be possible without unblocking you, so no, unless your most recent request for unblock goes through. SpitfireTally-ho! 21:30, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Sample article work submitted by Yakudza19[edit]

Continuation of unblock review[edit]

This case has been sitting in CAT:RFU for several days. Admins and others, please comment here on the wisdom of lifting the block. I've notified Daedalus969 and Cirt, since they commented earlier. The main concern appears to be copyright violation, in particular WP:Close paraphrasing. It's hard for me to tell if the new article material proposed by Yakudza19 is free of copyright problems. The only gimmick I know for checking copyright is googling one sentence at a time. Using this, I did find that the following complete sentence matches one in the article in Black Belt magazine: "Norris was apparently so impressed that he later trained under Kubota." (See this search). Other examples may exist, I was not very thorough. At a minimum, this sentence should be fixed. EdJohnston (talk) 05:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I have been involved with this user and warned him several times earlier this month about adding chunks of text lifted verbatim or with only very minor rephrasing from magazine articles to the Takayuki Kubota article. His repeated re-adding of the material and refusal to understand that this was not acceptable under Wikipedia rules is presumably what led to him being blocked. I am not an admin, so am not fully familiar with the exact criteria for blocking or unblocking, but the fact that this editor is asking for a second chance while at the same time proposing new text that has been lifted from magazine articles makes me wonder whether he really understands why he was blocked in the first place. --DAJF (talk) 08:13, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry - but in proposal edit you have to look at proposal edit, not the whole article. The sentence that you mentioned was in the article before I started my proposal edit, so I don't take responsibility in my proposal edit for it, because it was left here after several edits from different users after my block. Though thank you for mentioning it (User:DAJF - please take a note how it should be done) - it will be one more proposal edit for me to make =). Summary of my proposed edits are: made filmography and text about Soke's work in hollywod, made videography, finished ranks, added short facts in bio (like in 19xx he did that), corrected some information (according information that I recieved from IKA representatives), uploaded on wikimedia free-licensed photo of Soke and posted it here, added new sources of information, wikification (links). Also in my talk page you can see explanation why I didn't react for the first warnings of User:DAJF. Yakudza19 (talk) 11:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
You clearly reacted to DAJ's warnings, by telling him to fix your copyright violations.— dαlus Contribs 12:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Nope, I mean't that he COULD did that or at least follow the rules and outline it. But I did starting fixing it myself the same time (as you can see here).Btw - I already mentioned it but you ignored. Also you are ignoring my appealing to Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#When is close paraphrase permitted? that I explained above. Also I did mentioned, that I will not reintroduce such material again until there will be consensus, so admins should check diffs, not just the whole article. I started to add material not to the whole article but rather by sections (as you can see here) but User:Daedalus969 told me to to copy entire article (as you can see [3]). And now I'm accused of reintroducing CV material? Yakudza19 (talk) 13:14, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

The discussion is growin up exponentially, admins and other users, please read the posts of Yakudza19.

  • several times there was mentioned fact that paraphrasing is difficult question and violating copyright was not shown in discussion and only EdJohnston fixed the only sentence. It was corrected in Yakudza19's page. That is how Wikipedia should work.
  • Yakudza19 was told to copy the whole article and edit it in his talk page. So look at the diffs he made. (Hollywood,Instructional and documentary video, Ranks,photo). Not the whole article but diffs! This should be sync'd to the main article, so he and others can continue writing the article without loosing facts.
  • see the edits of User:DAJF in Takayuki Kubota. He deleted the facts that could be transformed without CV and loosing information. He deleted even that fact that Takayuki Kubota was born 20 september 1934. Also this one. How can you say about Kubota Denjiro sons in other way, that one son is kendo master, other is jujitsu master, another one is Olympic volleyball coach? No one can write about it in other way also User:DAJF - and the only thing he did - he deleted the facts again. You can review the history - these are not only examples.--Dragon24 (talk) 15:08, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Please consider as an alternative to copyright infringement: the article could simple link to the copyrighted material rather than duplicate the material in the wiki article. The wiki article does not have to replicate the internet: this is not the goal of an encyclopedia. jmcw (talk) 16:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
And the issues about the quality of these sources has yet to be addressed. How much of this material is based on reliable third-party sources? And please, stop using titles (Soke, Master). This stubbornness in ignoring our Manual of Style was the basis for the edit warring charges. jmcw (talk) 16:35, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that fact, that Soke was born September 20, 1934 is copyrighted material, still we have fact, that User:DAJF deleted it as one. If you look closely to sources and text, you will see that we made a lot of research here. For example dates for the same facts in different sources are different. For example in "Sensei's Story" article it says, that Kanken Toyama was a teacher of Soke. Though he wasn't, they just trained together. So we even contacted IKA representatives to get information from them. We even got free picture of Soke (though he is not demonstrate Kubotan as did User:DAJF mentioned in the Takayuki Kubota article). If I would like to duplicate materials in the article I would write why did Police find so usefull Soke's weapons, about his seminars and etc. Though I'm writing facts with corrected and corfimed information (it sometimes incorrect in the sources). About sources - I would gladly discuss them with you if you have any questions on separate topic - because this one become too large. About usage of titles - It's politeness and etiquette in the martial arts. As did Soke Kubota said "without politeness and etiquette martial art is just a sport or street fighting". I don't revert changes in the article itself, though could write a new material with them - since it's common practice in the sources about martial arts and I got used to it. Though it's too far away from indefinite block. Yakudza19 (talk)

We do not have enough people to check all your work for copyright violations. We need to be confident that you are able and willing to do that for yourself. Your above comments suggest that you consider copyright checking to be someone else's problem. And the 'politeness' argument suggests you are refusing to follow the WP:Manual of style. EdJohnston (talk) 21:49, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Nope, I didn't suggest that it's someone else's problem. I suggested that if he telling that there is a problem with paraphrasing - he should prove that and admin should check it before indefinite block. Also I did agreed not to reintroduce such material until there will be consensus - and I didn't. My politenes argument didn't suggest that I'm refusing to follow the WP:Manual of style. I just told, that I can live it in a new material by mistake (probably I did it once or twice). Though most of the time I wasn't. But I suggest that admins should check not only comments, but article's history before blocking/unblocking, especialy for indefinite time - that's admin's work for sure. As you can see nobody where improving the article (except for minor corrections) since I'm blocked. And I did add significant material - such as actor roles. Yakudza19 (talk) 22:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you did. "You could clean that up instead of deleting, as you always did." .. Your exact words, clean it up instead of deleting it. You are telling him that it is his problem to clean up your mess. Unacceptable. If you are unwilling to admit this plain fact, like I said earlier, I am uncomfortable with your unblock.
That said, there are some other problems I have noticed. Take for instance, that you say above I did not insert that line into the article, I cannot take responsibility for it. Either you don't remember your own edits, or that is an absolute fabrication, as you did exactly that. You then put it back in after DAJ rightly reverted you.
The following screenshot from wikiblame clearly shows that the line was never in the article before you put it there in the first listed diff:
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Nothing more needs to be said. You are clearly the one who added in that line. You clearly told DAJ it was his problem and not yours. You clearly need to take responsibility for your actions, and I will never be comfortable with you unblock until you stand up and face the music.— dαlus Contribs 02:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to Daedalus969 and others who added notes here based on their own knowledge of the issues that preceded the block. I've declined the unblock, and will be leaving the discussion now so the next admin can take a shot at the problem, if Yakudza19 wants further review. See also User talk:Fastily#Yakudza19 still requesting unblock for the opinion of the blocking admin. EdJohnston (talk) 02:24, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

About responsibility:

The sentence that you mentioned was in the article before I started my proposal edit, so I don't take responsibility in my proposal edit for it, because it was left here after several edits from different users after my block

User:Yakudza19, User talk:Yakudza19#Continuation of unblock review

Though I never told that I don't take responsibility for adding it to the article Takayuki Kubota.

You are clearly the one who added in that line.

User:Daedalus969, User talk:Yakudza19#Continuation of unblock review

To the original article yes, to the proposal edit techichnicaly yes, but User:Daedalus969 directly told me to do that as you can see my ignored explanation in the next quote. Also I already told, that I where fixing it myself and just told User:DAJF that he COULD did it, insteand of deleting facts:

Nope, I mean't that he COULD did that or at least follow the rules and outline it. But I did starting fixing it myself the same time (as you can see here).Btw - I already mentioned it but you ignored. Also you are ignoring my appealing to Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#When is close paraphrase permitted? that I explained above. Also I did mentioned, that I will not reintroduce such material again until there will be consensus, so admins should check diffs, not just the whole article. I started to add material not to the whole article but rather by sections (as you can see here) but User:Daedalus969 told me to to copy entire article (as you can see [4]). And now I'm accused of reintroducing CV material?

Yakudza19, User talk:Yakudza19#Continuation of unblock review

About screenshot. It doesn't address my proposal edit anyhow, since I was blocked on January 12, 2010. My proposal edit began January 15, 2010. Last date on screenshot is January 5, 2010. Also it doesn't shows anything, since there are no names and links in it. Though I did added that sentence in the orgignal article and never told I wasn't. Yakudza19 (talk) 10:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I am user Daedalus969. Not 696. 696 is a sockpuppet of a banned user whose only purpose was to harass me.— dαlus Contribs 22:55, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Ssory, misspeling. Thanks for noticing. Though you should consider of using my words - because you misused them as I explained above and that become reason for declining of {{unblock}} request. Also you should consider checking whole history of the article and diffs for proposal edit.Yakudza19 (talk) 23:00, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't think so. You were blocked for copyright violations. You violated copyright. An editor reverted you and you put it back in anyway. It was likely not removed as he didn't notice it immediately. That is never a reason to allow it to remain. You know that you added it. You knew it was a copyright violation, and you let it remain anyway in your proposed edit. Your proposed edit was a test, a test to see if you could write an article without infringing copyright. This includes past edits made by you in light of your proposed change. You chose to let that edit remain. You have shown you cannot write an article without infringing copyright. I see no reason to unblock you.— dαlus Contribs 23:14, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
As far as I understood from proposing to make edits, my edits will be synced to original article. So I didn't touched that part because User:DAJF already deleted that part from original article.I thougt if my proposal edit would be accepted admin will take diffs from my edit and apply them to the original article. If I would touch that part it could make a mess with synchronizing - isn't it (I mentioned it long ago). That's was the reason why at first I started to edit separate sections, rather then whole article? That's why it called proposed edits, not proposed article? Isn't that what was User:Jmcw37 (in the section above) and User:Dragon24 (in that section) where talking about? Also you fabricated that fact about putting text back before blocking. I were trying to fix the text and rewrote it. Please consider using diffs between original and and new text. Yakudza19 (talk) 10:29, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Though maybe I misunderstood how these changes will be synchronized - I asked question in the above section. Yakudza19 (talk) 10:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Note: Category:Pages translated from Russian Wikipedia should not be on this user talk page (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Continuation of Continuation of unblock review[edit]

Sigh: the problem here is not how to get your edits synced. The problem is that you are blocked for disruptive editing and you must convince some un-blocked editor to work with you (Build Consensus). I am discouraged that despite many corrections about the simplest MOS issues (Titles), you continue to add titles [5] [6]. I understand the issues of politeness in martial arts quite well (I have Japanese sensei and I have trained in Japan). You do not show respect for Wikkipedians (you do not follow our rules). How would you be treated in your dojo if you (kohai) did not follow the rules of sempai? jmcw (talk) 12:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

If you would like me to work with you, I will set us some goals for an acceptable article:

The article will be smaller but much better quality. jmcw (talk) 13:22, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I really apreciate that you wrote that to me, because I am novice here and most of my mistakes because of that. I'm looking to work with you. Especialy thanks for clear stating what should be done with links to rules nearby. Yakudza19 (talk) 20:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Good. I wait to see what you remove<g>. Remember, Copyright and BLP issues are important because they can cause legal problems for Wikki - that is why you were so quickly blocked. jmcw (talk) 22:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
It will take some time, so I will tell when I'l finish. Yakudza19 (talk) 22:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
For your information, admin will take diffs from my edit and apply them to the original article: this is not admin work, this is what normal editors do. Theoretically, admins just do a little bit of the dirty work here<g> WP:MOP:
The symbol of a Wikipedia Administrator combines the site's logo with a mop, as sysops are colloquially likened to janitors for rhetorical reasons.
You and I (and any other interested editor) will make order in this article. jmcw (talk) 23:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again. I didn't know that and it was cruicial in my previuos unblock request. Yakudza19 (talk) 01:28, 23 January 2010 (UTC) Atm I'm finishig ru-version of Takayuki Kubota so don't have time to edit here. But soon I'll synchronize it with en-version (with required adjustments) and I think it would be good proposal edit =). Yakudza19 (talk) 18:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Your block[edit]

I think you should be unblocked too, but only on a last chance basis.Accdude92 (talk to me!) 17:16, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you too. Please explain more what should be done and your opinion. Yakudza19 (talk) 20:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Admins[edit]

I'm sorry if it wasn't obvious, but I am not an admin. I am simply a seasoned editor.— dαlus Contribs 00:31, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Paraphrasing[edit]

Here I will post parts of text in my proposal edit that might be considered as paraphrased. Please make sure that you also read Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#When is close paraphrase permitted. {{adminhelp}} {{help}} Please discuss if these parts of text are acceptable in such state in the article or maybe how to rewrite them so they will be acceptable (if it's possible):

# Text Source
1 Later one became a kendo (sword) master, one a master of jujitsu, one the Japanese Olympic volleyball coach. Kubotas where descendants of samurai clan which, 300 years earlier, han conquered Okinawa and banned the martial arts. Mather, Jim (June 1990). "A Sensei's Story Karate's Takayuki Kubota". Black Belt (in English) (Active Interest Media) 28 (6): 41. ISSN 0277-3066. Retrieved January 4, 2010. 
2 Kubota began his demonstration with beating his own hands and feet with a sledgehammer. At the end 5 foot 5 inch Japanesee sparred with three taller American finalists of that year's black belt division: first individually, and then all three at once. Later Norris trained under Kubota's guidance. Mather, Jim (June 1990). "A Sensei's Story Karate's Takayuki Kubota". Black Belt (in English) (Active Interest Media) 28 (6): 41. ISSN 0277-3066. Retrieved January 4, 2010. 

Thank you. Yakudza19 (talk) 23:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

This is not really what the template is used for, if you wish to be unblocked use the unblock template or IRC.  fetchcomms 23:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I didn't used template {{adminhelp}}, I used {{help}} (see diff). My {{help}} request was changed to {{adminhelp}} by another user (see diff). Also I didn't asked for unblock with it. I need consultation about those parts of text. I need to make good proposal edit and (I told it many times before) will not include text, that might be accused for copyright issues.
We usually don't make edits for blocked users. If someone has volunteered to do this for you, you need to contact them, not use the helpme templates. Gigs (talk) 13:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Omg, I asked to consider is it paraphrased, not to post it. But I understood that it should be on the talk page of article, on which I can't write atm. I will remove it from my proposed edit. Yakudza19 (talk) 20:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Non Free Images in your User Space[edit]

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User:Daedalus969 added that image to my talk page (see link to dif) that you removed (see link to dif). Yakudza19 (talk) 13:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Don't worry, there is no penalty to this. The 'bot' just checks all photos to see if they have the proper legal information. When a photo does not, the bot tries to inform anyone who could supply the information. This is not your problem (unless you want to rescue the photo). jmcw (talk) 14:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


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