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Shalom Yoav! You forgot to sign! Always try to remember. About the ICCF national member federations article there is no reason it should be deleted unless its a repetition of existing material, but there are allot of redlinks! So I put the under contstruction tag on it so as to give you more time to...

  1. Locate the articles and link them appropriately
  2. Create some of the red linked articles.

Keep up the great work! By the way, perhaps you want to join wikiproject:Judaism? We need more people! frummer 07:35, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Good, you signed! Anyways where in Israel are you from? That pretty random that I welcomed another Jew. I welcome allot of people! About those two chess articles, there is no need to delete them just because there are no sources on the web, just read WP:CITE. All you need to do is cite a source so long it is verifiable, see WP:V. Also, if you can't contribute to Judaism, we also have a wikiproject:Israel, there are quite a few members, but we're always looking for more! frummer 08:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
    • So you're big into Chess. Very good. My father was a champ of some sort in Germany too. I'm not sure if you'de win him! But thats for another time. I like touring Israel too, but all aspects of living in Israel are difficult, socialy, economicly etc. Ramat Hasharon is a nice place, I've been, but the article is very short, perhaps you could expand it? frummer 08:24, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Anything here on Wikipedia is the right thing so long it is in good faith. About writing each other, the best thing to do is to reply to my message here on your own talk page. Thus if I right you, then you reply where I wrote you (i.e. your talk page), if you write me, then I would reply on my own talk page. Yes, I know its weird, we dont have actualy message boxes. It would be great if you could expand that article, and perhaps to translate some Hebrew ones. So if you contact me say tomorow, its better to right on my talk page in case i've forgotten. Also, there is no need for a title for each reply, you can simply indent the line by inserting a * at the begining of the line. frummer 08:48, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
        • By the way, I just sent you an invite on Webshots too! so that 2 welcomes! frummer 08:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
      • I don't have any pictures up on webshots yet, I only payed for the account to get pictures, I'm a graphicai. ;>) frummer 11:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Boker tov, to answer your question, look at the source here [1], when you past text, it does not always apear in the same format. If you are going to past something in a source, you must make sure you copied it from a source. Hevanta? frummer 07:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Toda! I did not know that you know some words in Hebrew! I will try to understand how to do it properly. --YoavD 07:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Nari li she'ani lo tzodek, you're actualy not allowed to have commas inside the brackets if you want it to be hyperlinked. I'm going to find you a partner who is invovled with Wikipedia:WikiProject Chess since your articles need to be wikified! frummer 07:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I see that your Hebrew is even better than I thought! But I do not think that the problem is the commas as in the earlier articles they appeared as well (I just checked that it's true...) Any way - I erased every thing and started anew and the same happened. I will try now to erase the whole article and create it again.... Ulai ze mekushaf (maybe its charmed?)--YoavD 07:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

  • zeh beseder achshav, tireh. frummer 07:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Only the first four lines are o.k. I see that you added the "*" sign but in the other examples the "*" was not added... I still do not understand where I did go wrong... --YoavD 07:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

  • There are few things to say about these chess articles.
  1. There must be a good lead paragraph for every article entered explaining a little what is going on! See also WP:LEAD.
  2. Wikipedia doesnt realy like "lists". Lists are usealy reordered in categories. But since in this case I think you will be given time to write up some stubs about these people.
  3. It is better to word the titles instead of providing abbreviations. I know a GM is a Grand Master but i dont know what the others are unless i searched them!

07:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC) Thank you for your help! I added the whole titles and also copied the way that you created the index to the titled players. --YoavD 08:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: ICCF national member federations[edit]

I've nominated the article ICCF national member federations for deletion under the Articles for deletion process. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that ICCF national member federations satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. I have explained why in the nomination space (see What Wikipedia is not and Deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ICCF national member federations. Don't forget to add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of each of your comments to sign them. You are free to edit the content of ICCF national member federations during the discussion, but please do not remove the "Articles for Deletion" template (the box at the top). Doing so will not end the discussion. I've also nominated the associated sublists that have already been created. I would suggest holding off on creating any new sublists until the AfD discussion is concluded. Regards, Accurizer 17:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion all you have to do is to improve the articles so they apear as articles. You should write a lead paragraph etc. frummer 05:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I added a lead paragraph (maybe too long...). Now I will wait to get the decision about deleting the articles yes/no/ --YoavD 09:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

ICCF Austria[edit]

--YoavD 10:37, 30 December 2006 (UTC)Hello!

I did an effort to demostrate what I planned , so please take a look in the ICCF Austria to see what was my intention. Of course I cannot do it all alone , but this was the idea. If you think that the wikipedia is not the proper place for such articles , then I will still thank you for what I learned from you about editing , and specially that I invested only a small amount of time , compared to the total project...

Thank you for your time!

AS I am new to wikipedia , I just hope that this message will reach you...

ICCF Belarus[edit]

I added text to this article. I would like to get some opinion if it is interesting. --YoavD 05:15, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Translation Requests[edit]

Shalom Yoav. Please can you translate a few Moshavim articles when you have the time. See the list on the Hebrew Wiki here, and the list on the enlish one. Category:Moshavim We need a good few more! Thanks. frummer 12:36, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Shalom! I will gladly translate some of them. I began with expanding Nahalal. Please help me to add the photos from the Hebrew site... I have no idea how to do it.. --YoavD 05:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC) Also enlarged Zarit --YoavD 06:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

At the moment there is a problem with interwikying images from one language wiki to another. The pictures there where uploaded on the Hebrew wiki site when they should have been uploaded to wiki commons so that all language wikis can share the images. If you ever upload images, do so to WikiCommons. It will soon be compulsory. Thanks for expanding those articles. Perhaps you can create articles on Moshavim that have no articles at all yet here. In your own time. Toda. frummer 19:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I also thought about that. Is there an easy way to get a list of all the Hebrew articles that do not have an equivalent in English? --YoavD 04:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

look here and see which have an english wiki article and which dont. you can see different language wiki articles at the bottom right of the article there. toda frummer 16:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Just shows me that I am even more stupid than I thought. I will take both Moshavim lists , and the difference will be all those that do not appear on the English list. But my question was more general: how can I find , in all the 51000 or so Hebrew articles, only those that do not have an English link so that I can choose the interesting one to translate? Not that I do not want to translate about Moshavim , but there are many other interesting topics...

--YoavD 18:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I think you would have to ask someone on the Hebrew wiki that question. Yes there are allot of interesting articles on the Hebrew wikis that could be translated into English here and also vis a virsa. Check out Amala and Kamala for example, its not in Hebrew... Ryu Ota, Norihiro Yasue and Fugu Plan... just some random stuff iv had a mind to translate into Heb. frummer 19:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
great stuff, toda raba!!! frummer


Thanks for the link. After the F.E. article was deleted, I stopped watching it and the deletion page.

On your website, you say that 500+ or 700+ endgames with R+B vs. R, they failed to hold the draw. I sent you email asking how many wins there were, to put that figure in perspective. I didn't get a reply to the email. How many wins were there? Bubba73 (talk), 05:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for not looking at the E-mail ... I was busy writing a long article on the 3-4 round of the German league. Will look at your question this evening. Of course the numbers I mention are wins only , you probably are asking about the total number or the number of draws. --YoavD 05:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually the % of wins or draws. Bubba73 (talk), 06:06, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Here are the results: in my database I have 1340 endgames that reached R+B vs. R out of them 686 ended in draw --YoavD 20:10, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Just about half, that is interesting. One of the major endgame books (I don't remember which right now) thinks that the reason R+B vs. R comes up more often than you might expect is that the the defender heads towards it knowing that it is a theoretical draw, and the attacker knows that it is quite hard to defend. Bubba73 (talk), 20:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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IDF Chief Military Rabbis[edit]

Hi Yoav: In looking at the IDF's Military Rabbinate article, only Chief Military Rabbi Shlomo Goren has an article. Articles are still needed for rabbis:

Happy Chanukah! Thanks, IZAK (talk) 14:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I am very busy woking of the Hebrew chess portal (you are invited to see my work). Now I am updating the timetable of chess and frankly - no offense - it is much more interesting for me...

Happy Chanukah! --YoavD (talk) 14:18, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Shonot[edit]

Thanks for the kind message. I can read Hebrew, and I understood what you wrote. However, it is easier for me to write in English.

Right now I am active in translating Hebrew articles into English, especially for articles about Israeli communities and Regional Councils. Unfortunately, the templates in the Hebrew articles do not carry over into the English Wikipedia, so I usually don't bother with them. If you could help me to create the map on top, the navigation box on the bottom, etc. that would improve the quality of these articles. I have a few more articles to translate in Gilboa Regional Council, and you can see the navbox in the Hebrew version.

I can help with translations of English to Hebrew of chess masters. If you give me a list of three prominent chess masters, I'll try to write articles on those people, and then I can tell you if I want to continue. Shalom (HelloPeace) 23:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


There is no need to translate from English to Hebrew about chess masters - I am doing it slowly and carefully.... see he:פורטל:שחמט/שחמט על ציר הזמן

About the navigation box I really have no idea how to do it but I will ask someone who does.

--YoavD (talk) 05:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I asked - please try to explain more details at our expert page : [2] You will see towards the end of the page my question with your partial text and his question. Yours, --YoavD (talk) 14:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Eugene Richards[edit]

Thank you for your note at Talk:Eugene Richards. It took a terribly long time, but he now has a little article in English Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 15:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I am also happy that he has now an article. Most of the articles in Hebrew that do not have an article in English are about places in Israel, or people that have a local importance but may not be well known elsewhere. If you take into account the number of foreign languages speakers that also know English you understand that a few months work will translate all those articles also to English... --YoavD (talk) 04:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I can't read Hebrew at all but I can see that the Hebrew article is very short. Meanwhile, the articles in French and German have information that the English one lacks and I could easily translate from the former. However, I know enough about Wikipedia not to depend on Wikipedia!

I hope and expect that the English article will gradually grow. Certainly there's a fair amount to add. -- Hoary (talk) 06:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

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