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Hi, could you please add a license to your picture Image:Jerusalemsukkas.jpg? I'd like to use it in the Finnish Wikipedia and upload it to the Wikimedia Commons for that purpose. -Easlak 11:21, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Your Image:Porchsukka.jpg is also in Commons now. That picture is obviously from Jerusalem, too (at least it has the same date)? -Easlak 21:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Nathan of Nemirov

If there is no objection to the name change, then you should just move the article, which will create an automatic re-direct. Ideally you should also go and change the references in existing articles to the new name. Jayjg (talk) 18:35, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


Hi, could you please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Comparative military ranks of World War II. Thanks. Izehar 13:04, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

VfD: Jews and non-Jews

Hello Yoninah: Please see and VOTE at two important Vote/s for Deletion (VfD): at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Contemporary persecution of non-Jews by Jews and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ancient persecution of non-Jews by Jews. Best wishes and Shabbat Shalom! IZAK 06:49, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


Hi, somehow you're in my contributions page on my user page, which I get a bit touchy about, perhaps you have some bot like apparatus, but I would appreciate being able to look after my own user pages. Thanks :) !!SatuSuro 00:19, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Bible verses and chapters on Wikipedia

Hello Yoninah: Shavua Tov ! It is important that you see the following proposed Wikipedia policy pages and their discussion pages at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Verses of 1 Kings 4 and 5 AND Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Whole bible chapter text. Thanks for giving this matter your serious attention before discussion is closed and the "policy" is set. IZAK 09:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Two votes for you

Hi Yoninah: Please see votes at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Criticism of the Bible and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inconsistencies in the Bible. Best wishes, IZAK 12:52, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Yitzchak Kaduri

I'm sure that your changes were in good faith but wrong. --Shuki 23:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

CfD: Category:Wikipedian Chazanim

Gut Voch Yoninah: Can you believe this: Category:Wikipedian Chazanim ? I have thus nominated it for deletion, see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 February 5#Category:Wikipedian Chazanim. Thanks. IZAK 21:04, 5 February 2006 (UTC)


  • AfD is not a vote.
  • When votecounters try to impose their rigid definition of consensus on AfD, the minimum standard is 2/3rds or 66%. Johnleemk | Talk 15:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

New Template:Juddom

Hi Yoninah: Gutt Voch! Please see the newly-proposed Template:Juddom which strikes me as odd and redundent for now. Please add your views at Template talk:Juddom. Thanks. IZAK 14:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Category:Jewish States for deletion

Hi Yoninah: Please see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 February 14#Category:Jewish States. Thank you. IZAK 10:28, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Chabad link in Minyan Article

Hello, Yoninah, I would appreciate your comments/opinions in the debate I am having with Eliezer here: Talk:Minyan#External_Links. Thank you. -- Avi 17:06, 14 February 2006 (UTC)


Just out of interest, did an article of your hand recently feature in the English Hamodia magazine (about hunger & famine)? JFW | T@lk 19:34, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Well done. That was a very good article. Don't worry about your cover. I really wonder if any Wikipedian would be bothered by your being a journalist. JFW | T@lk 22:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Why should they? :) -- Avi 00:15, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Halacha

Hello Yoninah:Gut Voch. Please see and add your views to a very serious discussion at Template talk:Infobox Halacha#This infobox must carry a warning. Thank you. IZAK 05:11, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


Gut Voch Yoninah: Please see Wikipedia:Deletion review#Judeofascism. Thank you. P.S. When will you be activating your "E-mail this user" capability for your "toolbox" (lower left) ?:-} IZAK 06:20, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

List of Messianic Jewish Organizations

Hi Yoninah: Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Messianic Jewish Organizations. Thanks. IZAK 10:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Category:Midian et. al

Hello, Yoninah. I would like your opinion and feedback regarding a discussion I am having with Briangotts here about various categories including Category:Midian and Category:Edom. This issue is whether the categories themselves should be subcategories of Category:Torah people and Category:Torah places, or whether just the articles which actually are about Category:Torah people, such as the parent article Edom and Esau, should be tagged. Further explanation and a place to both voice your opinion and vote may be found on the talk page of Category:Midian. Thank you for your time and input. -- Avi 19:32, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Passover article attacked by mssionaries

Hi Yoninah, Gut Voch! Hope your you had a great Shabbes! Please read over the Passover article (it's important because Pesach is coming soon) as we have a gang of missionaries trying to pervert the article and a few others for their own POV missionary ends (rachmana litzlan). Your input would be greatly appreciated as soon as possible. Zai Gezunt. Thank you. IZAK 18:43, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


A new editor is making rather bold claims about Judaism's view of Jesus, and also insisting he knows Jesus' Hebrew name. Could you possibly take a look at Talk:Jesus#Hebrew_name_of_Yehoshua_or_Yeshua and Talk:Judaism's view of Jesus? I'd appreciate it. Jayjg (talk) 17:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Nacham Chazan

Excellent work on the clean up and adding context. Thank you! Maustrauser 00:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


I'm trying to go through what changes you did with your 2006-03-15 21:36:48 revision. It seems like in addition to any textual changes, you juggled several sections around, making the side-by-side diff a bit useless. As you are more experienced with wikipedia than I am, perhaps you have some suggestions of how to more easily make sense of complicated changes? Thanks! (and Motzei Purim Sameach! ;) -- Nmagedman 20:12, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Plagues of Egypt

Hi Yoninah: Could you review the Plagues of Egypt article and perhaps imrove upon it? Wishing you and yours a Chag Kasher VeSameach. Thanks. IZAK 06:39, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Target Audience

Dear Yoninah, Thank you for your encouraging comments on my userpage. I have some questions that I plan to eventually take to the Judaism WikiProject page, once I read through all the intro help-pages. But I'll ask the first question here: Who is our target audience (for the Judaism pages)?

-- Nmagedman 22:48, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Seudah/Seudat mitzvah

Ok, as the consensus seemed to be to merge, I went ahead and did so, making quite a few changes along the way. Please comment, or make corrections, additions, improvements. : ) --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 07:22, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:Kabbalah practitioners

Hi Yoninah: Please see Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 March 20#Category:Kabbalah practitioners. Thank you. IZAK 09:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit war over Carlebach "allegations"

Hi Yoninah: I am not making much headway with User:Ckessler at Talk:Shlomo Carlebach#Allegations, yet again. I have placed this message on her page, and she is going for mediation, but I have yet to see where.

Hi Ckessler: You are on the borderline of breaking the Wikipedia:Three-revert rule in the Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach article, see [1] I do not wish to revert you a third time today. Twice is enough for me, I have no choice but to wait another 24 hours to do so. You are treating hearsay and gossip as if they were the legal equivalants of allegations in a duly constituted court of law. A number of admins who know something about this subject will be contacted, to advise how we should proceed. Your refusal to discuss to resolve this matter on the article's talk page is disappointing.

Your input into this matter would be highly appreciated. Thanks. IZAK 09:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-03-23 Shlomo Carlebach

Also add your comments at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-03-23 Shlomo Carlebach. Thank you. IZAK 10:31, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:Former Lubavitchers

Gut Voch Yoninah, I see that your addiction to Wikipedia is getting the better of all that Pesach cleaning that needs to be done not to mention all the putting away of the Chametz things...cute! At any rate, I thought that you would like to know about Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 March 24#Category:Former Lubavitchers. Thanks and Zai Gezunt ! IZAK 11:42, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


See latest attempts at putting dubious "Yeshua" in intro again... --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 09:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Passover Article (dates and timing)


Leviticus 23:5 The Passover to the Lord comes in the first month, at twilight on the fourteenth day of the month. 6 The Festival of Unleavened Bread to the Lord is on the fifteenth day of the same month. For seven days you must eat unleavened bread. 7 On the first day you are to hold a sacred assembly; you are not to do any daily work. 8 You are to present a fire offering to the Lord for seven days. On the seventh day there will be a sacred assembly; you must not do any daily work."

There arer some confusing statements in the Passover Article if you compare Leviticus 23:5-8 with the article.

The article in places states that the Passover is 7 and/or 8 days long. Leviticus 23:5-8 text indicates clearly that the Passover is one (1) day, and that the Feast of Unleavened Bread is seven (7) days.

The article seems to call the days of Unleavened Bread the "Passover".

This confusion leads to other confusing statements in the Passover article.

The article states that the matzo is the primary symbol or the Passover.

It seems to me that the primary symbol of the passover is the Lamb and lambs blood while the matzo is the primary symbol of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

In any case, my edits attempted to clarify the Passover article in light of the text of Leviticus 23:5-8.

--Tribera 22:15, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

The artcile says that chametz needs to be burned before passover, what about the kosher for passocer stuff. If there is too much bought, must the excess be burnt? or may it be used after passoever? John wesley 17:27, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Passover and Wolf Spider pages

I've semi-protected them for now. The IP editor will probably disappear in a couple of days. Jayjg (talk) 03:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Passover and Christianity

Hi Yoninah, I hope you had a great Pesach!: Please see the new discussions, and add your views, at Talk:Passover#Passover in the Christian tradition, again. Thank you. IZAK 04:02, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Glad to see you around a bit

Hi Yoninah: Since I do not have any other way to contact you I will write this here as best as I can: I am so glad to see that you could not resist the urge to come back to Wikipedia (because I saw that you recently added some things to articles on my "watchlist"). I have been thinking about your last message to me, about your frustrations and stopping your edits, and I wanted to let you know that what you felt was normal for a such a high caliber contributer and I have heard similar complaints before, but that you should not give up entirely, rather keep a tiny window to Wikipedia open, especially since I sense that you do not need convincing about Wikipedia's significance on the Internet and beyond. My advice would be, log in whenever you feel relaxed enough to do so and when it won't impinge on your time or your parnosah, try to contribute in a very focused way in just a few specific pre-chosen areas and articles of your liking and expertise, perhaps choosing articles that relate to upcoming Jewish holidays and related topics that readers all over the world will be looking at and reading, and where your contributions can make a huge difference. Try to avoid massive debates and frustration by sticking to very brief comments and responses and only when absolutely warranted, and expect that even though your edits may be subject to changes, yet your contributions DO make a difference on this Website, whereas your access to other world-wide sites is very limited and limiting. So that there really is a great advantage to being here, even if for brief spurts of time. I also believe that on some level, there is the element of kol she'oskim betzorchei tzibbur... (on the Internet) involved here with the potential of impacting many people globally in a positive way. Be well and Hatzlachah Rabbah with EVERYTHING that you undertake. I know that your heart is in the right place! Zai Gezunt! Your friend, IZAK 09:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Orthodox Rabbinical Biography Collaboration of the Week

Hi Yoninah, I've created an Orthodox Rabbinical Biography Collaboration of the Week. I'd love to see your comments, improvements, amendations and nominations, preferably all on the discussion or the actual page there. Many thanks, Nesher 13:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi, since it is notable in that he had more that one birth year

SFriendly.gif, I have re-linked them. In general dates are only linked when the links are useful WP:MOSNUM (the exception being if month and day of month are included when they respond to user preferences, e.g. 3 May). Historically every date was linked, which means there are many unnecessary links (the "sea of blue"), and, more importantly, new editors are copying this style. On a tangential point, a huge battle blew up several months ago when an editor proposed using a bot to de-link dates - so let me be clear this is not a bot. I have a bot account User:SmackBot ehich does useful clean up tasks. Rich Farmbrough 08:04 15 May 2006 (UTC).

P.S. 1. Most people seem to think that it's OK to link birth and death years, despite the policy, certainly more so if they are in the ancient past. 2. Do you have accurate birth and death dates for him? RF
You said "Especially on his birth years?" - I was making a little joke. Yes, I would personally suggest not linking birth and death years if no day and month is available. But I would not go much stronger than that. Ask yourself if the link is useful. Regards, Rich Farmbrough 10:40 16 May 2006 (UTC).

Orthodox rabbis categories for deletion

Shalom Yoninah: Good to see that you are "chipping away" at VERY IMPORTANT ARTICLES (e.g. at Shavuot) on Wikipedia! Keep on going, and follow the maxim of pachot pachot mitzarfin ! : If you have a minute or two, please see and vote at

  1. Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 23#Category:Haredi rabbis
  2. Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 23#Category:Religious Zionist Orthodox rabbis
  3. Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 23#Category:Contemporary Orthodox rabbis
  4. Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 24#Category:Modern Orthodox rabbis

Thank you and Shabbat Shalom! IZAK 12:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Rabbi Poupko

Wow! Thanks for the enlightenment and taking the time to investigate the matter. It is virtually assured that Rav Poupko wasn't a son of the Chofetz Chaim - we would have known about it by now. However, the notion that they were related in some way, albeit distantly, can't be entirely discounted. This is because, even though you haven't found a Mekor for the Chofetz Chaim's name being Poupko, check here. Second line of "Biography". Many thanks, Nesher 18:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

A Gutten Voch! Many thanks for clearing that up, Nesher 22:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank You

For your unfailing courtesy in the short dealings I've had with you - going out of your way to research certain genealogies :), I present you with this small token of my appreciation. Nesher 20:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Vfd and Vfm

Hi Yoninah, please see

Many thanks, Nesher 21:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Jerusalem Central Bus Station

Thanks for the huge improvements you made to this article. Great job! --Daniel575 23:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Rabbi Wein's teachers

I do not know if Reb Mendel Kaplan and Rabbi Mordechai Rogow are worthy of wiki entries. Rabbi-m

Proposed Deletions/Renamings

Hi Yoninah: Please see:

Many thanks, Nesher 12:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

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