User talk:Yulia Romero/Archive 4

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  • Happy New Year to you also, hope it is a good one for you. Cheers, --Russavia Dialogue 02:08, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

thanks : )[edit]

Thanks for referring me to Project Ukraine. BaomoVW (talk) 19:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

My pleasure :) And welcome! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 19:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Naftohaz[edit]

Hi,Mariah-Yulia. I think you may be interested that there is a discussion about the name of Naftohaz Ukrainy.Beagel (talk) 08:05, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me, I need some time to think about what I will vote... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 00:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

Happy New Year! Tomorrow starts the year of the Earth Ox and everything will be better. Maybe even Yulia and Viktor will be friends?! Närking (talk) 20:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


Thanks! I saw that Ukraine's zodiac sign is Ox too, didn't know country's had them :) I'm sure Yulia and Victor Yanukovych have a great change of becoming friends :), at least more then with Viktor Yuschenko... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 00:18, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know that countries could have zodiac signs either, but sounds good Ukraine is an Ox since it's supposed to be a good one! I'm born in the year of the Metal Dog though and I hope it's good too :) But yes, it does seem impossible that Yulia and Viktor Yu ever will be friends, but at least it's good it's only childish words flying around in Kyiv and not bullets like in central Moscow. By the way the latest journalist that was murdered just some blocks from the Kremlin was born and raised in Sevastopol [1]. Närking (talk) 18:21, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for drawing my attention to that. Ironic, isn't Sevastopol the most pro-Russian city of Ukraine? Hopefully her tragic dead will help show Sevastopolians that there better of being citizens of Ukraine! Did Vladdy (=Putin) and his sock puppets had any comments on the shooting? — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
No, as far as I know there hasn't been a word from Kremlin yet. And remember the murder happened during the day in central Moscow not far from the Kremlin and the murderer managed to get away in the metro. Everyone that has been in Moscow knows that there are militia everywhere and especially around the metro stations, so it's surely strange the murderer managed to get away so easily. Närking (talk) 12:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you have anu sources who could proff if she had a Ukrainian passport or a Russian one? I'm currently on the German wikipedia (god, my German has become so bad!) engaged in a small edit-war about it. Apparently some there think if you haven't got 100% ethnic Ukrainian parents you can not be a holder of a Ukrainian passport. I tried to explain that ethnicity and nationality are 2 different things. Sad that some Germans still can't see things like that, especially with there history they should know better then to mix up ethnicity and nationality. I must admit it really got me mad, Ukrainians even have to fight to have there dead citizens be called "Ukrainians". Some good sources to proof she was Ukrainian would help. Atleast the Ukrainian President was nice enough to send a condolence message on his website [2]! There is one in English too but that one doesn't say much. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:58, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I haven't seen it in print that she had a Ukrainian passport, but since she was born and raised there it would be strange if she didn't have it. And also it was the Ukrainian president that made a statement. And I guess she went to Moscow for her studies. So I'm pretty sure she was a Ukrainian citizen, although her name suggests she was of ethnic Russian family, but could as well be Jewish. But of course that has nothing to do if she was Ukrainian or not. Närking (talk) 20:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Well probably/could be her father (and/or) mother (or grandparents?) where born Russia and got Ukrainian passports in 1991 automatic cause the lived in the Ukrainian SSR. I'm glad that Ukraine did it this way and that the authorities didn't look at ethnicity! From what I heard people are kean to keep there Ukrainian passport cause without it live in Ukraine is more difficult (you can't buy land for instance). Would like to read more about it (why Ukrainians keep there passport). — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:24, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

thank you[edit]

Thank you for recommending it to me, but just which subjects did you want me to write about? Shotgun pete (talk) 21:19, 26 January 2009

Well your last articles where about historic events I saw, and there are still a lot of white spots on the "Ukrainian history wikipedia map"! But really anything goes of course! You can announce your new articles at Portal:Ukraine/New article announcements if you wish, so others can contribute to them. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

response[edit]

Over a month ago, you asked this. Sorry it took so long to respond, I forgot about it. I really have no idea. It does seem a little extravagant. And with regards to this, a late happy new year to you also :) Ostap 02:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your responce! My birthday was 2 days ago (28 January) and I didn't get anything from Yulia, very disappointing :) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 18:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Russian media freedom[edit]

The latest threat against Russian journalists happened last night to the editor of Echo of Moscow. [3] Närking (talk) 20:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Ax threats against a Gazprom owned company... strange... They are not that much government controlled then? — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, that radio station is still a rather open station that most Moscovites listen to instead of the TV propaganda. Yulia Latynina hosts a popular program there also. Närking (talk) 21:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

It's raining, I blame Putin for that![edit]

Well, I happen to think that Putin's the most powerful Mafioso in history, from the point of view of grabbing power and money for himself and his colleagues in government, at the expense of his own people. I also believe that his security apparatus was probably responsible for Litvinenko's poisoning (who else could be?), and repression of free speech seems to be a characteristic of his regime. But whether Putin was personally involved in any of this is impossible to determine, and somewhat irrelevant unless real information would come to light (unlikely).

I suppose that makes me “anti-Putin”. Good luck finding someone who has neutral feelings for the man.

I don't watch Fox or CNN, but I haven't seen the media here saying explicitly that Putin is responsible. Of course they do quote parties who say so, and characterize L. as a “Putin critic”.

I'll have a look at the article and talk, anyway. Cheers. Michael Z. 2009-02-11 23:11 z

I think Ostap R solved the problem with his last edits there. For some reason I found your post here funny (all be it bitter-sweet). It shows guessing people opinions is even harder in a virtual world ;) Happy editing! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:20, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


Barnstar[edit]

Thankyou for the barnstar, there are many many more articles on paralympians to come, both Ukrainian and for elsewhere. I have noticed a number of articles on Ukrainian sportspeople have Names in Cyrillic(?). Is this something you would be able to add to the articles I create or is it something that can get mixed up in translation. Waacstats (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll see what I can do, problem is that I'm not a native speaker so I might mess things up.... but hopefully that will get corrected by other users! I personally like to see the original names in the articles! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 19:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but it was a mistake[edit]

Thank you for alerting me about my blank article and the cake, but somebody beat me to it already! I searched Vepr SUV and Vepr Commander and no article came up, so I made a quick one. But it turns out one was already made under "VEPR" in all capitals. Darn, was hoping to have one-upped somebody. Thanks for looking at my articles though, I appreciate it :) I may need help with things, I'm new... --Лукас (Lukas) (talk) 23:20, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm sure you'll learn on the way! If you have any questions just let me know! Since the seems to be only 1 Cars of Ukraine article now there are plenty of chances to be the first at something ;) P.S. I made Vepr SUV a WP:redirect. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron[edit]

I notice some of your templates on your user page, and I would like you to consider joining the Article Rescue Squadron. Rescue Squadron members are focused on rescuing articles for deletion, that might otherwise be lost forever to Wikipedia, you may find our project matches your vision of Wikipedia.

Ikip (talk) 19:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation, but this isn't one of my priority's on wikipedia... I'll might rescue an article here and there but only if I found it important, not for the sake of rescuing. Still: lot's of luck to you and the other Article Rescue Squadron members! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Crimea[edit]

Доброго дня! Дякую, за юзербокс та проект "Крим" (PS: до Вас можна звертатися росiйською мовою?) -- А.Крымов (talk) 14:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Only with a translator website :) (Только с веб-узлом переводчика :)) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Merge discussion at Talk:Tom Tucker (Family Guy)[edit]

I've opened a merge discussion at the above-mentioned location. Please consider participating if you are interested. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Liberal Democratic Party of Russia and Liberal Democratic Party of Belarus[edit]

Hi, you're probably interested in Russian politics, as well. Please check this, there are some users trying to push through the POV that Zhirinovsky is a good 'social liberal' indeed. I don't have much to do against such obvious party propaganda, if I don't want to break 3RR myself ;-) --Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 22:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Well I have given up on Belarusian & Russian democracy altogether and I are therefore not so informed about it (I am mainly interested in Ukraine anyhow!). I did read some things about Zhirinovsky though, I'll see what I can contribute! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:40, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
I think the Russians must be sexually attracted to dictatorships or something, since they have never had a decent or just government. On the other hand, Belarus' suffers under "Old Farmer Sasha", the last dictator of the USSR, and therefore, unlike the Russians, they have not an opportunity to change their government. --Solkovskyj (talk) 15:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC) P.S. Adoption? You offering, tovaryšč?

Userboxes[edit]

Hey, can I borrow some of your user boxes? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I like that!!! You can find them on my userpage and on User:Mariah-Yulia/userboxes!!! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Flag of Zakarpattia Oblast[edit]

Oh! Thank you, Mariah-Yulia. This question was interesting for me. I looked throught the news and really this flag was adopted yesterday.Iurii.Fedyshyn (talk) 22:24, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

It is interesting to me too! Дякую! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

2008 South Ossetia war title vote[edit]

There is a vote up again at Talk:2008 South Ossetia war#Article name vote. Would be good if someone who hasn't been involved that much also could give a view here. Närking (talk) 22:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Дякую! I'll try to remember what the war is most called (as far as I heard it). — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:26, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Good! And by the way have you heard that Russia will be represented by Ukraine in the Eurovision Song Contest!!! (Anastasia Prikhodko) Närking (talk) 22:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I just saw, it looks really strange, but I guess it is not as weird as Céline Dion representing Switserland.... (she's from Quebec). — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I do get the feeling she only represents Russia for commercial reasons, unless the Russian pre-selections where more honest then the Ukrainian one (which I doubt....). What would Ivan Mazepa say about that :) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 02:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I take that back, this might be some bad divorce fight and she called herself a Ukrainian patriot :) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 00:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


Thank you[edit]

Dear Yulia, Thank you for your correction!--Ali nankali (talk) 08:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem :) Slava Kyiv! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 12:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Dear Yulia Thanks for your warm welcome! I'll make sure to be as accurate as possible!--GeoTe (talk) 13:01, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome :) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 13:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Putin et al.[edit]

The comment was actually aimed at both parties. However, best of luck with your temper in the future. Perhaps remembering that we are working to create the best encyclopedia in the world, not build a troll feeder, will help next time. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:02, March 30, 2009 (UTC)

If you edited a bit more about the "dark sides" of Russia that would help (also) to make this "the best encyclopedia in the world" instead of the tourist guide it looks like now (most of the time), why did I have to be the one who put in the information that the mayor of Kirovsk, Murmansk Oblast was shot dead? — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
In response, let me ask you two questions:

LOL, all this over some anonymous Ukrainophobic rant. Ostap 00:18, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Good point. Better, actually, than both of mine. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igel

s Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 02:56, March 31, 2009 (UTC) The "anonymous Ukrainophobic rant" comments where actually beneficial for the Ukraine–NATO relations article. I'm sorry I acted in a Roy Keane plying style yesterday. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 14:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

No need to apologize, I understand. I myself simply do not enjoy adding negative stuff, although I wouldn't hesitate to add it to any article, regardless of its national affiliation, if it happens to fall into my scope of interests. Overall, however, I believe that my limited Wikipedia time is best spent on editing subjects which hardly anyone else besides me can write/expand/organize—an area for which political bickering, obviously, does not qualify. It's not unlike what good ol' Adam Smith said—if there are several things you can do real well, you should be doing the one you are the best at and leave everything else to others, even if they don't do it as well as you might have :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:51, March 31, 2009 (UTC)

Reply[edit]

Thank you for support, but I would like to minimize personal discussions here, including debating myself of course. Please note that I did not create article Phone call to Putin but only voted to keep it.Biophys (talk) 20:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Ooops sorry about that. I had the feeling when I wrote it I was discussing your opponents and there lack of solidarity. I made a mistake discussing your behaviour in it as well, once again sorry. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

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A .PNG version of the same image is used now for Internet Party Ukraine, so I have no problem with deleting this version of the file. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 07:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Please read it[edit]

[4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by FcUkrBt (talkcontribs) 22:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

You where faster blocked then I could read your remarks :) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:45, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I did answer though... I'm so polite :)))))) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Good work with a more balanced picture over at Russians in Ukraine. Surprisingly I managed to do the same without any problems over at Swedish people! And I even managed to get 12 people in the picture! If I may say it myself it looks even better with 12 people than 8. I guess Ukrainians would be suitable for 12 also, but I fear it's not as easy doing it over there. Dutch people should be easier to change I guess :) Närking (talk) 20:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Дякую. But now I'm afraid Olena Teliha isn't ethnic Russian after all.... I also think 12 Ukrainians would be better then 8 but I think I caused enough tensions there (for now :))))... For some reason I find that picture at Dutch people really cute :)))) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Ya Heart Kiev[edit]

Since i am part Russian it was something i could actualy read. Yes, it's a great userbox, and i like it, but i also chose it because my grandma went on a geological expidition in Kiev and my (now late) grandfather, Kolya fell in love with her. his actual name was Nickolai Nickolaivich. He was the first to discover Uranium in Kazakhstan. I'm not sure if many people know of him over there... the only countries in Europe/Asia i've ever been to are Estonia, Kazakhstan, and Saint Petersburg. *Marie* (talk) 20:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is a great userbox, but all credits should go to Olexa Yur who made it on the Ukrainian wikipedia, I simply copied it to here :). I must say I never heard of Nickolai Nickolaivich... Kazakhstan is largely obscure here.... I have been to Kyiv and it is a lovely city, although it is big it doesn't feel big to me :) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I hear Russia isn't very popular right now. And i can understand that. Russia has probably made many mistakes. I wouldn't know. I live in Milpitas, California and don't listen to much polotics. I am neutral on all subjects except for a couple i take close to heart. I also like to say i am the line between good and evil.

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Done! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 13:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

File:AnastasiaPrihodko.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

You're right, it's a drag with getting a photo of her. Her production team seems too greedy to release anything under a free licence. Perhaps you can try to contact them in Ukrainian (which I don't speak) and get them to agree to release a photo of our choice under a creative commons or GNU licence by explain the situation here. As you know, it's enough when they write to you in the words:"I give you Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 license to the photo" and that's it (in case you didn't know that already). --Jaan Pärn (talk) 20:57, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Well according to here it is rather more complicated... I don't want to spend a lot of time for a photo of a singer who's is either stupid or is using politics and court cases as a marketing tool... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 11:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I couldn't identify your point from the link. Here is the case I was referring to. Anyhow, if you don't want to waste time, it's fine. Here's what I think of her public image: as a rock star at the age of 22, you're allowed to create a mess of your life, as long the mess is genuine, not a publicity stunt. I'm fascinated about her as a Ukrainian version of Amy Winehouse, only in Prikhodko's case, the extreme nationalism and competition scandals occupy the place of drinking, drugs and rugged love life. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, probably Prikhodko won't be as big as Winehouse because of the limited audiences, but she's got what it takes to be in the world of Ukrainian folk pop what Amy Winehouse is in white soul music. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 22:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

About Ukrainian Internet[edit]

Actually, this information is sourced from a ukrainian website. I've added a link to the original source. DED BADUN —Preceding undated comment added 09:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC).

OK, thanks! This sort of info needs to be well sourced, I feel. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 09:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Racism in Ukraine - some good news[edit]

Hi! Some good news this morning: [5]

Ukraine is strengthening its efforts in the fight against racism and intolerance, Chair of the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) Eva Smith Asmussen said at a roundtable in Kyiv on Thursday, UKRINFORM reports. Speaking about clauses of the commission's third report on Ukraine, the participants in the roundtable pointed to positive results in the activities of the country's highest authorities in the field of interethnic relations. In particular, commission member Baldur Kristjansson paid attention to the ratification by Ukraine of Protocol No.12 to the European Convention on Human Rights, and the European Convention on Nationality.

I'll see if I can find the ECRI report on the web, it would make a good ref for an update to the rasism article. -- Timberframe (talk) 08:08, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Prikhodko Controversy[edit]

Got your point and hopefully made it right in the article. About the song: I'm impressed by the Ukrainian folk power it possesses. Perhaps a genuine Ukrainian would disagree but for a novice it's got the same amount of raw Ukrainian energy as "Wild Dances" (perhaps a genuine Ukrainian didn't like that one either). Only "Mamo" seems more adult-oriented. A decent folk rock ballad any way you look at it. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 22:08, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi, just found these 2 websites ([6][7]) that claim ms. Prikhodko was so disappointing with getting only 8 points from Ukraine she considers Russia her homeland now... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I've followed RIA Novosti. It goes without saying that she's sad about the overall result and specifically pissed at the "home" jury pulling the chair out from under her. Anybody would be in such a situation. I haven't read any of her reactions on her national feelins, though. Probably wiser for us and her not to react at the tabloids. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 00:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

(a bit strange she didn't explain why Ukraine only got 2 points from Russia). Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

What could she have to comment on it? Although a fascinating connection, it is a different situation, as the Russian jury and the Russian voters (this system can't be rigged) seem rather unanimous about the Ukrainian song (probably a maximum 4 points from either of them). --Jaan Pärn (talk) 00:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if she still feels so about this and the websites look like gossip sites. Do you know anything more about this?

By the way according Russia Today (I concedred it Kremlins propaganda machine) says Prikhodko got 12 points from the sms vote but none from the jury (weird also...) [8].Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Look at http://www.rian.ru/ev09_news/20090519/171607828.html . Svante Stockselius is directly quoted with confirming the 0 from the Ukrainian jury and the 12 p from the voters. What's so weird about it? The Ukrainian jury have confirmed, they gave a 0. Do the 12 points from the Ukrainian people look weird to you? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 00:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if this all is noticeable enough or if the sources are realaible enough and of course she might want to become Ukrainian again (?). What do you think?Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)v

To further clarify the situation in European terms, the Pershiy Kanal totally overreacted by pulling out its support to Prikhodko. I can give you two examples from the Estonian Eurovision past. Estonia has been represented by a Swedish girl in two competitions, first of them when the competition was held in Tallinn. Swedish people were simply glad and gave their maximum support. In 2005, a through-and-through Estonian girl band Vanilla Ninja represented Switzerland. Imagine the voting system of 2009 applied and the jury of Estonian Broadcasting Union giving the girls anything less than 12 p, it would have been a national outrage (probably a change of board at the Broadcasting Union). So Prikhodko has every right to be pissed, as it was clearly not a musical vote from the jury. I mean, Ukrainians not reacting to a Ukrainian folk-influenced tune got to be either deaf or making a point. These are the thoughts that Prikhodko is entitled to right now about the Pershiy Kanal. Now, what she isn't allowed to feel, would be something like: "I'm pissed at the state." I hope she feels only bad about the Pershiy Kanal and I haven't read her saying anything beyond that. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 00:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

All very interesting, but what a fuss about a song contest... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Obviously the Pershiy Kanal have made it something more (or less) than a song contest. I'd rather hope, Prikhodko has not reacted in a similarly unbefitting way, but I'm open to reliable sources stating the opposite. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 00:14, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Happy Victory Day![edit]

For your interest, we don't celebrate Victory Day in the Baltics because neither did we win anything, nor were we liberated. Don't let it spoil yours anyway! --Jaan Pärn (talk) 22:42, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I could have figured that out... Have a nice day too anyway! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!!!![edit]

For your congratulations notice:))

Yuriy Meshkov[edit]

You seemed surprised that Meshkov is a Russian politician. But how can you explain his behavior? He even by nationality is a foreigner and he was elected as the president of Crimea from the blok "Rossiya". I don't even know why such a political blok would be permitted in Ukraine. In Russia similiar blok would be stomped to the pulp, I meant reciprically. He is a dirty mark of an Ukrainian national politician, to avoid swearing. That guy has no national pride for the land where he was born. He probably sneezes at Shevchenko, Stefanyk, Teliha, and laughs at Stus and Sosiura. In my opinion such people need to be eradicated out of Ukraine. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the cool award. It was as a thunder out of the blue sky:) Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome! I consider Meshkov a Ukrainian politician because he held office in Ukraine. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Kyiv vs Kiev[edit]

I don't think this discussion is productive... I noticed that while a lot of people write Kyiv (and not Kiev) a lot of people also write [[Lugansk[[ (instead of the correct form of the city's name Luhansk), Dnepropetrovsk (in stead of Dnipropetrovsk) and Kharkov (in stead of Kharkiv), I think we can make better use of our time if we correct all the Ukrainian city names mistakes (not sure if there always mistakes or nationalist statments...) usings EV's format (Dnepropetrovsk → Dnipropetrovsk ((to reflect common English usage & for consistency with those articles)) instead of "fighting" about Kiev vs. Kyiv all the time... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. But the thing is that a small number of people familiar with the events that take place in Ukraine and I am simply trying to inform. That's all. At least maybe some other people will notice my arguement. The article on the name convention also mentions the use of the modern names. Why did everybody started to cling to the "common use"? No one calls Petersburg as Leningrad. Why? Because the official renaming of the city took place. The same goes for the Ukrainian geographic names.

The Kiev article simply states that the Ukrainian authorities promote the use of the name Kyiv. That is totally wrong. It is not just a promotion, it is a well researched, legitimized, and established fact. What does the following quote mean?


The proponents of Kyiv are using different ways to promote this spelling. In February 2008 Kyiv was competing for a spot in new Monopoly World Edition game board. The internet voting organized by Monopoly's producer, Hasbro has attracted attention of Ukrainian net users.


How can such a quote be the part of an encyclopedic information? There are no diffrent ways, but the official one which is Kyiv. The Commision of the Legal Terminology by Decision #9 clealy identified the official name of Kyiv and series of other official transliterations. People are simply following the established transliteration without any intention of the populism which is being implied in that quote.

I think this fact needs to be expressed and widely publicized. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia on the other hand prefers to diregard the Ukrainian legislation, basing their facts on googling. For me that is crazy. It was not as the government come up with this idea over a night. It was thoroughly dicussed and debated on diffrent levels and finally was accepted by the Ukrainian legislation. Wikipedia prefers the use of the name when the name was established while the Ukrainian forms of expression and self-identity were prohibited. When the official translation was established, this fact is being blindly denied refering to googling. Although Wikipedia does also imply that googling might be erroneous and should be carefully researched. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Sofia Rotaru[edit]

Hey, you might wanna take a look at Sofia Rotaru article and the articles linking to it, especially Template:Sofia_Rotaru and List_of_highest_paid_musicians_in_2008. The articles have multiple issues, pointed out in recent edit comments and on the talk pages. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 15:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, not that much interested in Ms. Rotaru let alone I know anything about her, the only East-European singers I am truly interested in are Tina Karol & Ruslana. — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 08:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. --09:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
It is a much more complicated issue. The editor who made the request, is a WP:FAN of Sofia Rotaru and reverts any attempts to remove his WP:OR, WP:SYN and WP:PEACOCK without adding matter-of-fact comments. There are currently zero editors besides me and him interested in the content, so I wondered if you could take just a little look at Sofia Rotaru and List_of_highest_paid_musicians_in_2008 and the talk pages and add an opinion. Because in its current form, the Rotaru-related content on Wikipedia is a disgrace to Ukrainian pop music. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 19:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Interesting interview[edit]

Perhaps that might be interesting for you [9], especially the part about Yuschenko.Biophys (talk) 00:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


Barnstar[edit]

Thanks a lot for the barnstar! Mibelz (talk) 14:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Endurence should be rewarded :) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 14:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I am a real Galician, so that the blood of four nations runs in my veins! Mibelz (talk) 14:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
No wonder your so active :) — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 14:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Thank you very much for the barnstar! / Большое спасибо за цю нагороду, яку я отримав від вас! :) DK4 (Contribs) 10:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Dear Mariah-Yulia,

Thank you for adding Arnold Azrikan's name in Ukrainian. I am thinking about his bio in Ukrainian Wiki though I have to struggle with the language but hopefully I will make it. Since his name is in many Ukrainian encyclopedias right now I think that it will be very appropriate to place his bio in Ukrainian wiki - what do you think? Then we can have a link, right? I also have his photos from Kyiv opera where he sang many roles in Ukrainian language. I have to think about it but I thank you again for your input. (129.105.19.129 (talk) 14:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC))

Barnstar[edit]

Thanks for recognizing my work with your Ukrainian barnstar! Hope I'll be able to help more in the future. LilHelpa (talk) 14:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello![edit]

Hello,

Good question about the Stetsko President/Prime Minister issue. From what I gather, the government was very complex (as were many governments at the time - probably to include as many factions/friends as possible), so I think that Stetsko would be the executor,ie the President, and the head of the Rada, Kost Levitskyy, would be the legislator/PM. What do you think? Horlo (talk) 09:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Brüno[edit]

The movie will be shown in Russia according to gzt.ru [10]. Närking (talk) 20:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:18, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Kozintsev and Trauberg[edit]

The name in Russian is provided only because it is the language of all their original works: films, books, etc. Compare to Dovzhenko or Parajanov where names in several languages are provided because the original works been done in several languages. Henry Merrivale (talk) 00:11, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Is that official Wiki policy? Cause to me it looks odd... For artists born in independent Ukraine (post 1991) this does not aply I presume? — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Sunday Adelaja[edit]

Hello Mariah-Yulia, please check my comment on Talk:Sunday_Adelaja. --Sasper (talk) 00:44, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Ternopil Oblast Council[edit]

Hi! Can You update page "Ternopil Oblast Council"? --Vasyl` Babych (talk) 09:12, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Can do :), but I'm not sure if this Council is still legal, wasn't BYuT still in court to challenge the last elections? If a judge says these where illegal the article has to change again... — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 10:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
No, The last decreet was on April, 23. See http://pravda.com.ua/news/2009/4/24/93785.htm
And this: http://www.umoloda.kiev.ua/number/1428/180/50272/ --Vasyl` Babych (talk) 15:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:Award[edit]

Hi. Thanks for the barnstar and for your keen interest. :)--KoberTalk 13:27, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Issue with File:Yanuatwork.jpg[edit]

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Thanks for Viktor Yanukovych pics[edit]

Thanks very much for Viktor Yanukovych pics.A.h. king • Talk to me!

No, really[edit]

Dear Mariah-Yulia, I did not start to edit on July 20, as in the diff cited in your edit. Clearly, you must have misidentified something. Best, PasswordUsername (talk) 05:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Juri Gilsher[edit]

Hi, you edited the page I created recently on flying ace Juri Gilsher, I used the old-fashioned names as he was technically born in the Russian Empire; for example at Nelson Mandela it states that he was born in the "Union of South Africa" without mentioning that this was the predecessor to the Republic of South Africa; similarly with Mikhail Gorbachev it states his place of birth as "Stavropol, Russian SFSR, Soviet Union". Therefore I believe that listing Gilsher's place of birth in the infobox as the Russian Empire is correct, however I will adapt the article to mention that he is buried in present-day Ukraine. Thanks LGF1992UK (talk) 19:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Never know what the correct rules for this kind of things are... But our last edits makes things clear, as one would have a hard time finding his grave in current Russia. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 23:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Uploading images to Commons[edit]

Can I upload images to Wikipedia Commons from a website of the Government of Ukraine? They are photos (1 colour, 3 b&w) of protests in Kyiv from July 1990 - August 1991. They are posted on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website. Jwkozak91 (talk) 03:22, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Click on pic to see a example of President of Russia permission pic
I'm afraid you need permission from the Government of Ukraine to do that, just like the President of the Russian Federation gave permission to use pictures of Krimlin.ru. You can ry to upload a picture on English wikipedia using a "Non-free media use rationale", see here for a example of such a pic. Better not upload a "Non-free media use rationale" on Wikipedia Commons since there much stricter there. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 12:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: VISIT TO LVIV[edit]

Hi, sorry I'm currently on vacation in Turkey. You will find Lviv as a spectacular city, and you will find many new friends, because the people of Lviv are so friendly and generous. Hope I was in Lviv, I could have taken to you to visit many historical sites. Have fun! A.h. king • Talk to me! 17:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

VISIT TO LVIV :D[edit]

Hello, so how are your preparations for your visit to Lviv. You will really like it, Lviv is an awesome city. If you have any questions, really, I'm available on my talk page. A.h. king • Talk to me! 20:09, August 16 2009 (UTC)

TB[edit]

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Image of the Order of King Yaroslav the Wise (Yaroslav Mudriy)[edit]

I added an image of a medal awarded by the Government of Ukraine to a recipient of the medal. Do you think the Government of Ukraine might have a problem with this re: copywright issue? Thanks. Jwkozak91 (talk) 16:27, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it should be OK (no commercial issues I presume)! I think it is more a problem that fellow wikipedians have a problem with uncopyrighted pictures then the owners of the copyright on pictures. A bit unusual to have a picture of the medal on a wikipage of the recipient of the medal, but don't be afraid to be WP:BOLD! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 13:03, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
The reason I put the image of the medal on Ken Krawetz's page is that there is no Wikipedia article on the Order of Kinaz Yaroslav Mudriy, not even a list of recipients - just the man himself. I thought it would be better to show the medal than have a broken Wikilink. Anyway, I thought it was OK to include the medal because the local paper (the Wadena News) had that image on its front page when the MLA recieved it - I was just double-checking with you.

Thank you for your help and encouragement! Jwkozak91 (talk) 22:16, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:FISCHER 42CR.jpg[edit]

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Check out Chodaczkow Wielki massacre Bandurist (talk) 21:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, my knowledge of Ukrainian history is a to limited for me to feel comfortable to contribute to this kind of detailed articles. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 23:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

LGBT in Ukraine[edit]

I never said it was a worldwide consensus, but the wiki page itself said that certain rights activists said that and gave links.

Personally, I'd like to check the authoritativeness of those links, as I seriously don't buy it. But, I thought I'd make do with just publishing the link to the poll and info. I don't consider a country that views homosexuality as far worse than tax evasion, deception, adultery or ratting out a friend as "tolerant", dunno about you... --Yalens (talk) 21:15, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I see, I'll have a good look at those links then. Homosexually is a subject that never comes up in conversation when I talk to Ukrainian friends... from the one times it did I got the idea that as long as you don't act like a Queen of the Desert you won't get bothered. this is WP:OR of course. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I am part Chechen, and I have cousins that are full-blooded Chechens and fluent in the Chechen language and have connections "back home". And generally, the subject gets dodged, because apparently its controversial among Chechens, but feh. Of course, homosexuality is far more complex in Chechen history than in Ukrainian history. On one hand, there is an element of machismo in the culture, but on the other hand, there's a militant worship of freedom and equality, and indeed, a very weak government, that isn't really so idealized among other Europeans. Chechens really don't like it when a dominant gov't tries to impose values on people, and of the ones that I have talked to and didn't dodge the subject (people on line, my cousins dodge usually), for that reason they'd support rights for gays. On the third hand, there's Islam, but among the diaspora, that's more or less completely insignificant, dunno about the "vaimokh". But I don't really think that necessarily translates into tolerance, though.
Though, I'd like to note, with a lot of Eastern European countries, people have a tendency to say that its socially acceptable to be homosexual there, as long as you aren't standing out too much (because, you know, in the rather conformist societies of the post-Soviet world, seeing two males/females of the same gender together doesn't stand out [/sarcasm]). I don't think that says anything: a Dixie (American from the Deep South, known for its extreme, militant conservatism) would say the same about their homes, but it doesn't say a thing about tolerance, as anyone who is homosexual, or worse, transgendered (male homosexuals seem to have much more of a negative reaction than females for some reason), will immediately get identified wiht said stereotypes, and outcast. I doubt Ukrainians are much like Serbs, as the latter would probably silently approve (for the most part, large amounts of exceptions of course, but still...) going around lynching homosexuals (I exaggerate), whereas the former wouldn't, but it doesn't change the fact that they are ridiculed and shunned by society, I think... OR, of course... --Yalens (talk) 15:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Bridges in Kiev[edit]

Answer, please correct the article if there're any mistakes. Thanks.--//Microcell// 13:39, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Политическая проституция[edit]

Если ты социал-демократ, то почему поддерживаешь правых?

Что, зассал отвечать, оппортунист?

Спасибо)[edit]

Спасибо за то, что Вы, в отличие от многих редакторов в английской WP, вполне себе адекватны)) Знаю, что комплимент звучит не очень, но Вы же понимаете, что я хочу сказать))FeelSunny (talk) 15:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Ukrayina Bez Lenina!![edit]

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Dyakuyu! Jwkozak91 (talk) 08:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

NowCommons: File:Yulia.jpg[edit]

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DYK nomination of Savik Shuster[edit]

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DYK for Savik Shuster[edit]

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Russian "elections"[edit]

Unfortunately it is like Garry Kasparov said on Swedish TV the other week: "In Russia we don't fight to win elections, we fight to have elections." Närking (talk) 21:17, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I saw your message was removed per Wikipedia:NOTFORUM witch a thought was a bit over-the -top. I do not like editing Russian articles everything can be explained in different way's so I'm thinking he probable said something about more open democracy but did not mention United Russia, unless he has passed beyond shame. Something should be written in wikipedia about autographs from Russian opposition candidates being refused not sure where. A 2009 Russian local elections?? But I'm not really keen on writing it since I do not like editing Russian articles. I do not believe in a Russian Cabal but just like there are to many Orange editors on Ukrainian related topics there seem to be not enough Kasparovians on Russian related topics to keep a right balance. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:34, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Garry Kasparov is worried about democracy in Russia about as much as Boris Berezovsky. Russia certainly needs political competition, but Kasparov is not the right man for the job. All he's done is further soil the "liberal" label in Russia by going on American and Western Europe TV, badmouthing his own country and fitting all the negative stereotypes of so called "agents of the west" by consistently siding with the west against his own country, and against his own people if you go by public opinion. He's just making it that much harder for a real liberal opposition party to rise up and gain a foothold in public opinion. Sometimes I think he might be a secret agent working for Putin, reverse psychology ;) LokiiT (talk) 03:59, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Interesting that you directly attack the person Kasparov instead of the problem he is pointing at. I didn't praise Kasparov, but he surely had a good point here. I don't think it's a good idea teaming up with people like Eduard Limonov for example. I don't support any of them, but they both should be able to say what they think without being arrested. That is the real problem in Russia, not that Kasparov is talking to Western media. Närking (talk) 20:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I agree, they should be able to say whatever they think without being arrested. And they do. Kasparov and Limonov are free men as far as I know. In that sense, I don't know what problem you're talking about. But wait, they've been detained for short periods of time in the past for organizing/participating in illegal protests! So, is that the problem they're pointing at? That you can't break the law in Russia without getting arrested? Think about it. They knew they were breaking the law. Kasparov is a smart man, and smart men don't break the law in front of the authorities without expecting to get arrested. But neither do they expect to get arrested in "authoritarian Russian" without gaining sympathy from the west and damaging their leadership's international reputation. My point is, he's a schemer. He doesn't care about democracy in Russia. If he did he would be trying to win over the people in Russia, not the people in America and Sweden. LokiiT (talk) 23:27, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Once again you are attacking Kasparov and blaming the west. And you haven't thought about why it's only pro-Kremlin groups that are allowed to demonstrate according to the Russian law? And we all know what happened to Anna Politkovskaya who was writing openly what she was thinking about the problems in Russia of today. Närking (talk) 19:39, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not blaming Kasparov for anything except perhaps making it harder to be a liberal in Russia. All I'm saying is that his "cause" is dubious and you should question what he says and why he's saying it. And what were those peaceful protests last winter over Putin's handling of the auto-industry where people were chanting for his resignation? Pro-Kremlin agents? Smaller protests go on all the time in Russia. Don't get me wrong, Russia is no Canada as far as freedom to protest goes, but it's no Soviet Union either, despite the efforts of people like Kasparov to make it seem so. LokiiT (talk) 21:13, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
No, it's not Soviet union. Some may say that it's even worse than the last years of the Soviet union. I have followed Soviet/Russian politics for the latest 25 years and I surely can't see that Russia has been on its way towards a more open and free society during the latest ten years during the reign of Putin. I remember hopes were high when I was in Moscow when Putin first appeared on the TV screens as president of Russia. But the hope faded fast, and now very few even care to go and vote since they don't see any point anymore. Närking (talk) 21:33, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Yet if you ask the average Russian, and according to polls, life now for the average Russian is much better than the last days of communism or the Yeltsin years, and most feel the country is moving in the right direction[11]. So perhaps, as someone who doesn't live in Russia, your perceptions are being skewed by people like Kasparov and agenda driven media. " Seventy-two percent said Russia was moving in the right direction."[12]LokiiT (talk) 00:12, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I don't live in Russia but I do follow what's happening there closely. And I do know people who live there also. And it's just to read Russian news to find out more about the recent "elections" [13]. Do you seriously believe United Russia could get 98% of the votes in some Moscow districts or that Sergey Mitrokhin didn't even vote for himself? Närking (talk) 19:32, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
No, but I seriously don't believe election results matter when there's only one party that can win in the first place. Nor do I think full fledged western-approved democracy is more important than stability. Case in point: Ukraine[14]. I just don't understand how people outside Russia can care so much about about democracy while completely ignoring what Russians themselves want. It's a complete contradiction, and hence it's nothing more than ideological imperialism with a painted face. No different than when the USSR would prop up communist movements in other countries simply because communism was their religion. It didn't matter that the workers didn't want "liberation" from their "bourgeoisie masters". But I guess since democracy is the "good" ideology it's okay? LokiiT (talk) 23:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not trying to force anything upon the Russians. They have to decide themselves of course, which they nowadays can do in Ukraine for example. The problem is that Russians haven't been able to do that yet. And I'm not so sure Russia is as stable country as you depict it. When the strong hand in Moscow will loose its grip around its feudal lords we will very soon see a different Russia. Närking (talk) 07:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Deciding for themselves is exactly what they're doing right now by rejecting certain values being pushed on them and continuing to support Putin's policies. Regarding your prediction, this is simply wishful thinking that's been repeated over and over again since the day Putin became President. Remember when the most common argument against his popularity was that it was only a result of high oil prices, and he'd lose it in an instant if prices ever fell or if the economy faltered? Better luck next financial crisis. [15]LokiiT (talk) 08:37, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
How can they decide for themselves since they only can vote for one party as you said yourself above? Närking (talk) 09:00, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I didn't say they can only vote for one party. I said only one party can win, and that's because A: they choose to support it, and B: There's no serious competition. If you remove A from the equation, B is irrelevant because people will vote for anyone (like the communist party for example).LokiiT (talk) 09:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, if they were free to work there might be serious competition also. We don't know since there is only one view available for the Russians to support. Närking (talk) 09:35, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Natalia Korolevska[edit]

If you have more troubles with anon IPs deleting good sourced information, please don't hesitate to contact me; depending on the evidence - which seems pretty clear - I can block them. Cheers from Novaya Zealandia.. On another topic, what do you think is going to happen in 2017 with the Black Sea Fleet? Buckshot06(prof) 20:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! This IP is costing me a lot off time I rather spend somewhere/on something else... BS Fleet in 2017? I do not think it depends on who wins the Ukrainian presidential election, 2010, my guess is that the BS fleet will leave Ukraine in 2017 rather quietly. Based on my friendship with a few people from Crimea I get the idea Crimea is getting less pro-Russian by the year (the younger generation is more pro-Ukrainian I have been told); so I do not believe in a "Crimea war II" either. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Need your opinion on some photographs[edit]

Hi. Can you provide you opinion on this matter? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 01:34, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Black Sea Fleet edits[edit]

I did not view my edits as "suggestive". I'll grant many press sources validity but what they say when they fail to quote sources should be appropriately noted as a statement "according to - name the press source". If UNIAN had quoted a source by name I would not have made my reference. Another relevant fact was that Georgia no longer has a Navy since it has consolidated all maritime forces under its Coast Guard.Федоров (talk) 02:04, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Responding to your request for citations. My insert sentence was derived from the information immediately preceding it. If you read the details of what occurred after the letter to the Rada that had ceased to exist by the time the letter got there you will see that while the narrative speaks to actions by a naval staff there are really no ships effectively under their command. When they tried to move to Novorossiysk they flew the Russian naval ensign and when they returned they surrendered the fleet to the Germans. I was merely summing up the presented facts in my sentence.Moryak (talk) 00:14, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry a bit of laziness from my side, I assumed the Georgian navy still had ships and was unaware of the merge between the Georgian navy and the Georgian coast guard. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 18:51, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

List of Canadian place names of Ukrainian origin[edit]

I've decided to do this project. I think I might be finished in a month - I'll let you know when I think it will be ready to be a DYK featured article. Also, could you please post feedback/questions on the talk page?

Thanks Jwkozak91 (talk) 23:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

OK, I'll keep a lookout! Thanks too! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 18:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Please read up on POV[edit]

I recommend you acquaint yourself with WP:POV and WP:MOSBIO. Far too often, you are drived by your nationalism rather than by Wikipedia policies. Your personal feelings about things like Kurylenko's nationality are, to be frank, of no importance. Wikipedia is about verifiable facts.Jeppiz (talk) 00:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Once again, please stop removing sourced information and information in line with Wikipedia policies. If you disagree, use the talk page to discuss the matter instead of random insults in edit summaries.Jeppiz (talk) 18:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Ukrainian presidential election on Russian TV[edit]

A sensentional documentary will be aired on Russian TV (TV Center) this week about How to kill the Russian inside yourself and about how Ukraine and the Ukrainian language was invented [16]. Maybe could be mentioned in the article about Anti-Ukrainian sentiment. Närking (talk) 19:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Maybe rather stop campaigning? MY was the one to get the "Матюки делают з тоби москаля" Ukrainian political poster out of the article on Russophobia. I did not mind, as this was quite a minor political party in Ukraine. This one is too quite a minor TV channel in Russia, with one of the lowest ratings in the country. So no need to get exited.FeelSunny (talk) 08:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
This TV channel is controlled by the city of Moscow and not by an obscure Russian nationalist party. And besides that it wouldn't surprise me there will be more such programs also on other TV channels, just like during the previous Ukrainian elections. Närking (talk) 20:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Well if this channel "TV Center" has only a audience share of 3% it could be a fringe in the Russian society. This summer I bought a book in Lviv in which the authors claimed that Russians are not Slavic but Asian, while polls show that 96% of Ukrainians are positive about Russia (hence I did not put info about this book in Russophobia since even if a lot of Ukrainian think Russians are Asians they do still seem to like them...). I'm having the same problem with this documentary, does the fact that there is a Ukrainophob documentary proofs it's viewers agree with it's contend? And for all we know the broadcast itself might not be so controversial as it's preview promises (in an attempt to get more viewers). Probable better to discuss this at Talk:Anti-Ukrainian sentiment.

Documentary looks more humoristic then dangerous to me. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:11, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately the documentary is not a humorous one. And the interesting part here is that it's a state controlled TV that broadcast such documentaries. And as I said earlier this is not the first time it happens. Närking (talk) 21:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Narking, both Mariah-Yulia and me say: do not heat it up. Please. There's no need. If you need real content, you can check here: [17]. This is about Polish national Ukrainofobia - 50% negative, 38 neutral t/w Ukraine, like it or notб that would better fit the article. And, of course, Poland should come first in the list.FeelSunny (talk) 00:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Lithuanian–Polish–Ukrainian Brigade[edit]

I also nominated the article at T:TDYK. By all means, please feel free to expand the article more and propose alternative hooks. I think that the Lithuanian–Polish–Ukrainian Brigade is a better name, per other similar articles on such subjects (ex. Polish–Ukrainian Peace Force Battalion). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:23, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

2 good ideas, thanks for mentioning me also at the T:TDYK nomination! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 19:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
Hey Mariah-Yulia (and Piotrus, saw you got involved too) - this is a great Ukr/Pol/Lith initiative and thankyou for writing up the article too. Good work!! Buckshot06 (talk) 03:59, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Yushchenko[edit]

Thanks for your removal of vandalism on Yushchenko's page. such actions do not serve Wikipedia well, sadly Wikipedia is open to bias editorial and corrupt administration. Yushchenko deserves criticism but not that sort of abuse on what should be a serious publication of facts Ukr-Trident (talk) 23:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

What also irritates me is that some editors start articles and then leave out a lot of the subjects history... According to the current state of the Socialist Party of Ukraine-article the party did not participate in the Ukrainian parliamentary election, 1998 while it did (as the Socialist Party of Ukraine/Peasants' Party of Ukraine bloc it did even won seats). I'll fix this later... but the should have been added in 9 January 2004 when the article was created by Morwen! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 19:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for .укр[edit]

Updated DYK query On November 21, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article .укр, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 13:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Lithuanian–Polish–Ukrainian Brigade[edit]

Updated DYK query On November 23, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lithuanian–Polish–Ukrainian Brigade, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Did I forget to give coauthor credit? If so, my apologies! I added you as co-author in my nom ([18]) but I think the DYK system is plagued by various errors :( You certainly deserve the credit; I am copying the DYK award template to your userpage. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:34, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for added me as co-author in the nom; I remembered that ;); and this template :) — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 21:39, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Please help[edit]

Hello. I've just created a template Kiev-city-geo-stub, intended specially for stubs on Kiev. Previously there was used Template:Kiev-geo-stub, that was wrong at least since Kiev doesn't belong to the Oblast officially. Now it would be great to replace the old template with the new one in all the articles about Kiev itself (most of them are here), but there are too many of them to do it manually. What would you advise? Thanks in advance, --Microcell (talk) 16:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Maybe this task could be done by a one of the Bots on wikipedia, or you can make a new one. Better ask a Bot-owner on advice about Bots, cause I'm not good enough with computers to operate/create one myself... Otherwise I have no idea then to change manually. Thanks for your efforts to improve wikipedia! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:41, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, there turned out not very many pages to do it, the matter is that in most of them stub-templates are absent at all. Well, I'll try to sort this out...--Microcell (talk) 16:12, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Lucía Topolansky[edit]

Senator Topolansky is the spouse of the President-elect of Uruguay, and I was wondering what her national origin is. Do you know anyone who could read Spanish well enough to find out? Thanks. -Jwkozak91 (talk) 18:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Well no... I noticed that Fadesga contributed to the article and he speaks Spanish and seems to be interested in politics, maybe you can ask him or otherwise a WikiProject Uruguay member. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 18:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Marko Vovchok[edit]

Hello again. How do you think, is the fact that she became one of the most famous Ukrainian writers while she wasn't a native speaker of Ukrainian and learnt it only at the age of 25, worth being represented at DYK? Regards, --Microcell (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes/Tak! Although the folks at Template talk:Did you know might consider the article (in it's current form) too short... I had to expand .укр to it's (almost) current length to get a DYK. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 15:59, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Now it's lacking nearly 150 characters... OK, I'll try to add something interesting.--Microcell (talk) 16:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Good luck! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 16:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you:-). Is it OK now with the number of characters?--Microcell (talk) 16:14, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I would say yes, on the eye it looks about as long as current DYK James Jones (baseball), can always add a "Works" and/or "Legacy" chapter/section in it to make it longer. — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 16:46, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Your inquiry[edit]

Hi, Mariah-Yulia! Apologies for a belated response, but I don't often log in on weekends and holidays.

Regarding the situation at hand, approaching the user(s) is absolutely the very first thing you need to do. If your inquiry is ignored or if you get a runaround, then your best bet it WP:AN/I. Folks there won't be able to help you with the content disputes (which an "article naming dispute" is kind of a subset of), but you should get help there if the page moves related to this dispute are indeed massive (and especially with the discussion still ongoing). Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:27, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Olga[edit]

The Kurylenko article at the moment currently suggests she speaks six languages. That's quite an extroardinary claim, to put it mildly. If it's going to be made it needs strong citations. I do not speak Russian so I used Google translator for quick verification of the source for Ukrainian and there's no mention of it. Presumably the interview was conducted in Russian since it's a Russian-language newspaper, but that's only a presumption. Anyway, since you speak Ukrainian and Russian I think the best thing for you would be to translate exactly what she says, then add the quote function (quote=) in the citation template and add the Russian original so others who speak the language can quickly verify. At the moment the Wikipedia article does not clarify whether she can speak two words of a language or fluently, or understand a language but not speak it. Google's translation "I am good at English and French, and I can communicate in Spanish, and understand Italian." --98.232.98.144 (talk) 19:48, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Not sure how her Spanish and Italian are but almost all Ukrainians can speak both Ukrainian and Russian (although I must admit Russian is more used, according to polls about 55%), but copycatting you was a bit of a joke, I'm sorry if it offended you; my apologise. Anyhow I find a source in Ukrainian (I started to to look for one right after your edit) that she dubbed the Ukrainian version of the movie herself (not The Times but info I found to be correct on there on this sort of facts). In the chat she claims to speak Spanish and can understand Italian; Ill change the wording there to make it less factual (I know a Ukrainian woman who speaks 5 languages though). — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 20:13, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
It was just the claim regarding her lingual abilities that stood out to me and that's why I checked the reference and added the tag. But it seems the issue is resolved now -- the wording you added, particularly "she claims", is much better. Thanks for adding the source and happy holidays my friend.--98.232.98.144 (talk) 21:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Question[edit]

First Merry Christmas!!! second under what license can I put an image of an airplane I found on the net A.h. king • Talk to me! 08:28, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Nankali Post-system[edit]

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Best Wishes for 2010[edit]

Best wishes for 2010.

By the way do you like Пара Нормальньіх? If you click on the link you have to wait a minute before the music starts :)--Toddy1 (talk) 20:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, the same for you! Not sure I like the music of Пара Нормальньіх (yet), sounds promising but got the idea there is something missing for me... I still find it strange (if not absurd) that a lot of Ukrainian artist have there official websites only in Russian... including Tina Karol who once claimed she loved the Ukrainian language most... If Doe Maar would have his whole website only in English I would also find that absurd by the way... (even if the would sing only in English). — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 17:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

People who want to sell records who claim to love the Ukrainian language may not be entirely sincere. Maybe they feel that saying it is necessary.

They want to make money, and everyone in Ukraine speaks Russian. People from Central, Eastern and Southern Ukraine all speak Russian as a first tongue. The state insists on Ukrainian spelling of place names on road signs. And of course you need the Ukrainian language if you want to be a state bureaucrat. I know it is not like that in the parts of Ukraine that were part of Poland until September 1939 - but they are so far away that you have to fly there or spend about 12 hours travelling there.

One of the big political problems in Ukraine is this split between the Ukrainian-speaking West, and the Russian-speaking east, south and centre. Some politicians such as Bogoslovska and Yanukovic propose a bi-lingual Ukraine - this is probably the best solution.

You are from the Netherlands. Next to your country is Belgium, where half the country speaks Flemish, and the other half French. In that country too, place names are different in different languages (e.g. Anvers/Antwerpen). Forcing everyone to speak French does not seem like the right answer.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

overdue[edit]

Ukraine Barnstar.png How do you have time to always update the new Ukraine articles? You deserve an award. Ostap 05:42, 31 December 2009 (UTC)





Thank you! I cut time by not doing other things ;) — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 16:49, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!!![edit]

Happy New Year, hope all your wishes come true in 2010 A.h. king • Talk to me! 08:20, 31 December 2009 (UTC

Thanks the same to you! — Mariah-Yulia • Talk to me! 17:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year and a well deserved award![edit]

Order of Golden Star Ukraine.jpg I hereby award you the Golden Star Hero of Ukraine Award for keeping WikiProject Ukraine alive by constantly following Ukrainian news and updating all kinds of Ukrainian articles. Närking (talk) 21:20, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy new year and here is also a well deserved award! Närking (talk) 21:20, 31 December 2009 (UTC)