User talk:Yzak Jule

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:39, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010[edit]

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for repeated abuse of editing privileges. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Fences&Windows 19:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
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Yzak Jule (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribs deleted contribscreation log change block settingsunblockfilter log)


Request reason:

Apparently this was the name of someone who changed their name and got banned? I'm not them or claiming to be them so this isn't block evasion or impersonation like Fences&Windows said at the Administrators noticeboard. Can I just change my name or something if I'm not allowed to use this one? Wikipedia shouldn't let people register names that aren't allowed to be used if that's the case too.--Yzak Jule (talk) 21:46, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

It's entirely doubtful that a new user would immediately edit the same topic area as their previous owner, know how to remove redirects, know how to sign things, and is NOT a sock. tedder (talk) 21:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

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Yzak Jule (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribs deleted contribscreation log change block settingsunblockfilter log)


Request reason:

I'm interested in the Gundam series, which is why I registered using the name of a Gundam character to edit a Gundam article. I don't know what that has to do with anything? I removed the redirect stuff by just deleting everything because it wasn't stuff I put there, that doesn't really require any technical knowledge. As for signatures, there's a button right on the editing thing and the welcome pages and a lot of talk pages say to sign your posts. I'm not sure why everyone is being so harsh with me?--Yzak Jule (talk) 21:55, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Lying in an unblock request is generally not a good idea. Checkuser evidence confirms you are User:Zengar Zombolt. Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

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Comment: The character in question is Yzak Joule; note the difference in spelling of the last name. It seems a strange coincidence that a completely new user would make the same spelling change, if the intent were as stated above. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:06, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tryptofish. The American dub of Gundam SEED spells his last name Joule, but most Japanese sources and the fansubs of Gundam SEED, which is how I watched the series, used the spelling Jule. I just went with what I'm used to.--Yzak Jule (talk) 22:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC) And if you do a google for both, "Yzak Jule" gets almost twice as many hits as "Yzak Joule", so this doesn't seem too uncommon of a preference. --Yzak Jule (talk) 22:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I guess the admin looking at this may need to decide between WP:DUCK and WP:CHECKUSER. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
I just did the Google search myself. A search for Yzak Jule actually returns "Did you mean to search for Yzak Joule?" --Tryptofish (talk) 22:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, again, that's his official name here in America, but as shown by the amount of Google hits, a lot of fans got used to and prefer Jule, which is how it's spelled in Japan. http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig05/10059984.jpg is an example of that spelling being used on official merchandise.--Yzak Jule (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I understand why you're all suspicious of me, given the other guy's history. But since I'm already being watched pretty closely, going by all of this happening a whole 20 minutes after I registered, wouldn't it be a little more fair to me to let me edit and keep a close eye on me in case I am that guy? Then if I were, I'd probably go back to the same type of behavior and you could block me then. Outright indefinite blocking is a little extreme, I think. But I don't know if Wikipedia allows for conditional editing like that.--Yzak Jule (talk) 22:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

This is getting deeper into the subject that I ever imagined myself getting, but I went and looked critically at the first edit by this user, the one to the page about the anime. Looking at our page about the character, it actually does look as though the user moved the listing of the character from an incorrect place to its correct place, which is consistent with what the user says here and inconsistent with the behavior of the blocked individual. I don't see any recent activity at the Something Awful website that would suggest an imitator. I'm beginning to be inclined to WP:AGF. Maybe the admin should unblock and see what happens. Yzak, if you really are not the previous person who created so much mayhem here, then please accept my apologies for accusing you. You need to understand that you assumed the user name of someone who created a huge amount of trouble. If, on the other hand, you are playing us, you will be found out soon enough. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, Tryptofish. Like I said above, I read that Zengar guy's talk page and so I can see why you would be worried. Yeah, Mineva was in the wrong place, I think because she's not revealed to be with Neo-Zeon until towards the end of the first episode. Anyways, that guide to appealing blocks says to demonstrate how you could improve Wikipedia, so I was taking a look at another Gundam page, the one for Strike Gundam, and most of the citation needed tags are for things they show or say in the episodes themselves. So if I were unblocked I would put in citations for those, and since it looks like on the whole Wikipedia's Gundam coverage is kind of a mess, I'd focus my efforts on trying to improve the quality of those pages.--Yzak Jule (talk) 22:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I support unblocking. Again, my apologies. Best wishes for happy editing. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:56, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, I'm glad for Checkuser, and I still believe in AGF. But the display of dishonesty here is simply appalling. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:28, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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Yzak Jule (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribs deleted contribscreation log change block settingsunblockfilter log)


Request reason:

The 2 week block given by tedder has been up for a while now, but due to Fences' spiteful and uncalled for indefinite block, I'm unable to use that account and so forced to make new ones instead. I think it's clear I've demonstrated intent to constructively contribute and that the block is no longer needed to prevent disruption to Wikipedia.--Yzak Jule (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Unblock requests that attack others are declined. Besides, nobody forces you to make new accounts. Talk page access removed.  Sandstein  23:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

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Um, which 2 week block given by Tedder? --jpgordon::==( o ) 22:16, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zengar_Zombolt&oldid=343633063

"Spiteful and uncalled for", eh? Your final edit with Zengar Zombolt when you "retired" told us to "come the fuck on", and that "The sperglords have won." I judged that any editor making those kinds of statements is incapable of meeting Wikipedia's requirements for civility. You might want to read WP:NOTTHEM. Block evasion is also not a way to get yourself unblocked. Fences&Windows 22:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Editing in anger is not worthy of an indefinite block, even though it is pretty stupid. And if there were any other way to get myself unblocked I'd use that, but I can't even edit my own talkpage.--Yzak Jule (talk) 23:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, editing in anger and also lying about your identity suffice. --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)