User talk:Zainaldin

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why did you undo the macon page? Wasn't aware that I did


Macondude. Sorry about removing the external links. That's an error on my part.

Spam links[edit]

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Vsmith 01:52, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Please don't use Wikipedia to promote your favorite website. The links to the New Georgia Encyclopedia are simply spam links as they appear to be your only additions to Wikipedia pages. I have removed a number of the links. Please add content rather than promoting your site. Thank you, Vsmith 02:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


I think you will find that the New Georgia Encyclopedia is not a spam link, but an appropriate attribution to guide readers to fact checked, authenticated, verified information on a subject. White I appreciate Wikipedia's contribution, any policy that ELIMINATES fact-checked information that is on-point for the subject matter of an article is, in my opinion, a DISSERVICE to the credibility of your site and its readers. I will welcome a reply. PS. Not sure how to send messages on this site yet, and would appreciate a reply if you have received this. Thank you,

Jamil Zainaldin

Please read the policy pages linked to above. Your only contributions seem to be adding external links to one website to a variety of Wikipedia pages. That qualifies as spam. It also suggests that you are connected to that website, which brings up the problem of site promotion and conflict of interest. The link you added to kaolin was the one that got my attention, as it was totally irrelevant to the article. Perhaps you added the link in error, but it was to Joel Chandler Harris. So I investigated your other edits and found them all to be promoting one site - and that triggered the spam note and removing a number of those added links. Because I felt you were adding the links in good faith and the site appears quite good, I didn't continue. However, again please add content rather than just external links - further additions of external links will be considered spam. I am adding a canned welcome message below, which contains other links you may find useful should you wish to contribute to the Wikipedia effort. Thanks, Vsmith 01:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


Hello, Zainaldin, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!  Vsmith 01:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. That was helpful and I read the information about links. Please consider this: when you read an article on Wikipedia (such as, for instance, Atlanta) and compare that article with the article in the New Georgia Encyclopedia (also "Atlanta"), you will see that the difference is not merely one of inserting factual information. The difference is one of interpretation, nuance, presentation, etc. The article in the NGE uses some of the same information that multiple authors are using in Wikipedia, but interprets and presents this information in a different way. I think it is superior, in fact. For that reason, it is a plus to the Wikipedia article to have the link to the NGE article. The only other option is to REPLACE the Wikipedia article with the NGE article. Obviously that's not appropriate, because the NGE article is copyrighted and besides, I have no wish to "invade" Wikipedia's space.

The link, in that case, seems appropriate.

Ditto Kaolin, a Georgia industry. How Joel Chandler Harris got there is, well, a booboo. The NGE is non-proprietary and authoritative. You will find few other STATE ENCYCLOPEDIA online sites like it (TX and WA). Because kids use Wikipedia, and because information contained in NGE is fact-checked and authoritative, it seems to me a PLUS for people in Georgia, Wikipedia and the NGE to have links.

I have added links to a Wikipedia article only when the article can benefit from an authoritative additional source. I am NOT promoting the NGE, but promoting good information available on the Web and have seen adding links as a way of strengthening Wikipedia, and not as a way of promoting our traffic (NGE is widely in use in GA's public schools).

Anyway, that is my reasoning. I respect Wikipedia policy and ask that the special consideration about my state, which I've laid out above, be respected. I have no reason to abuse citations on the Wikipedia site. I feel I have been reasonable, consistently. I will respect your concerns and ask, also, that you respect my well-intended motives and exercise of personal judgment. I do not willy-nilly do this, because I don't have the time to do that, frankly.

Thanks again,

Jamil Zainaldin,