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DYK for Xing Shizhong[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 1 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Xing Shizhong, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Xing Shizhong was promoted for his performance in the Sino-Vietnamese War and later served as president of a university that trains China's top military officers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Xing Shizhong. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Xing Shizhong), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

"张雨"?[edit]

Hi Zanhe.
I've just deleted a draftspace article of this name:

"09:12, May 1, 2019 Shirt58 (talk | contribs | block) deleted page Draft:张雨 (There was a Chinese poet of this name (张雨 1277-1348) but that's not what this draft is about. Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria G1, G13. To retrieve this draft article, see WP:REFUND/G13)". I can see there has been no English language article Zhang Yu (poet).

There is a zh.wikipedia article about this person, but my Chinese is very limited and I can't find anything in English in reliable sources.
For people watching: there is a disambiguation page Zhang Yu - the "Yu" may be a number of hanzi, each with different tones in Mandarin aka Standard Chinese.
Your thoughts about this? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:56, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

@Shirt58: The zh-wiki article is about the Yuan dynasty poet. I googled the Chinese name "张雨" but couldn't find any notable figure with that name other than the poet. If the draft is about someone else, then he's probably not notable (although I cant be completely certain without seeing the draft). -Zanhe (talk) 18:52, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
I have emailed you the content of the deleted draft. Certainly wasn't about the poet. Before I got the admin buttons (spoiler alert: ain't any buttons, you just get extra drop-down menus) and was re-creating deleted articles there was a pop-up message that said "this page has previously been deleted, please contact the deleting administrator" or something along those lines. So yeah, go ahead and create the article Zhang Yu (poet) (traditional 張雨) (simplified 张雨). I would swoop on creating this article like the seagulls on St Kilda Beach eating the hot chips left behind by picnickers if I could find references in English. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:24, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
@Shirt58: Thanks for the email. The draft is just gibberish in Chinese, probably created by some bored kid with the same name. Unfortunately there aren't too many online Chinese sources about the poet either. His Baidu article cites a number of books and journal articles, but none of them are available online. -Zanhe (talk) 18:20, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Zhang Yiming[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 2 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Zhang Yiming, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that six years after Zhang Yiming founded ByteDance, it surpassed Uber to become the most valuable startup company in the world? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zhang Yiming. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Zhang Yiming), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Dongju Zhang[edit]

Hey, Zanhe! I saw that you'd added the Chinese name to this article, thank you! I am trying to figure out how to refer to her -- many of the articles I am reading refer to her as Zhang, is that correct? --valereee (talk) 11:30, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: Thanks for creating the article! Yes, her surname is Zhang, and the article should probably be named as Zhang Dongju using the native name order per WP:ZHNAME. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 18:08, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Zanhe, may not actually matter as it's been tagged for notability, but if it survives: so move to Zhang Dongju, with a redirect from Dongju Zhang...aieee, just the kind of thing that I'm liable to break, lol...thanks so much! --valereee (talk) 18:13, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Wow, you've done great work on this article, it looks so much better! Thanks for your interest in it. This is my favorite part of Wikipedia. --valereee (talk) 09:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
@Valereee: Archaeology and history are my favourite areas too, although I also spend a lot of time writing about other sciences and politics. Last time something so exciting happened was Shangchen from last year. Let's hope discoveries like these will keep coming! -Zanhe (talk) 09:25, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Zanhe, I love archeology and history, but the "part" of Wikipedia I meant was the collaboration. :D I love it when another editor helps with an article I started, or I find an article that interests me that I can help with! --valereee (talk) 10:23, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
@Valereee: Yeah, it's truly awesome to collaborate with someone like you who's both competent and pleasant to work with. Occasionally I run into people who're protective of "their" articles and resentful of even clear improvements. By the way, I'm working on an article for the other main researcher Chen Fahu, and plan to nominate them together for DYK. Just to keep you posted. -Zanhe (talk) 22:26, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm so glad! I was feeling kind of bad for poor Chen; he was her advisor, and she's getting all the coverage. :) Maybe he is being generous. --valereee (talk) 01:12, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
@Valereee: Lol, but he's got plenty of accolades already. I think she deserves the glory as she led the excavation and probably spent months in the dark cave while he was sitting in his plush office in Beijing :) -Zanhe (talk) 00:39, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

You've got mail[edit]

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Hey[edit]

Not to distract WT:PROF, which is already too busy, but the original versions of Donna Strickland were deleted because they were plagiarized and copyright violations.[1] WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:03, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

@WhatamIdoing: Yes, the 2014 version was deleted for copyvio, but the March 2018 draft was rejected for lacking independent sources, even though multiple sources from affiliated academic institutions were included. And this is what I'm arguing against at WT:PROF, the inane policy of rejecting highly reputable academic sources on the grounds of professional affiliation. -Zanhe (talk) 21:45, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Have you read User:Bradv/Strickland incident? WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:31, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Just read it, and I think it's ridiculous to consider her OSA bio an unreliable source for her notability as an OSA fellow and former president. The OSA is a highly prestigious academic organization with 20,000 scientist members from all over the world. It they published false credentials about a former president, it would immediately become a huge scandal. This goes back to my original point about relaxing the independence requirement for academic sources, at least for basic facts such as academic appointments. -Zanhe (talk) 23:03, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
...but not everyone knows that OSA is "highly prestigious" (or even agrees with your opinion – some people might reserve that for even more rarefied societies), and furthermore, the notability concern isn't that we're concerned that they might tell lies, but rather that their attention might not constitute "attention from the world at large" (which is the idea of naming the thing 'notability': the world at large took notice, and not just people in your company/industry/group/religion/whatever). Nobody said that they thought the source was unreliable; they said that they didn't see evidence of notability. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
OSA presidents and fellows are considered notable per WP:NACADEMIC (#3 and #6), and her OSA bio clearly confirmed both. So the only logic behind the rejection was that the source was not independent or reliable. "Not everyone knows that OSA is highly prestigious" - an OSA recognition is considered a great honor even for a Nobel Prize winner, see NASA news. The problem is that most Wikipedians are focused on pop culture/sports/politics, which get constant coverage from commercial media trying to gain eyeballs, and have so little knowledge about academia and learned societies. Oftentimes it feels like arguing with a tree. -Zanhe (talk) 04:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
NACADEMIC doesn't actually say "For example, this includes OSA." To say that it's logical that it was declined for non-independent sources, we would have to assume that this editor, unlike >99% of people on Earth, somehow already knew that OSA is considered prestigious, according to whatever standard is used for that criterion. I don't think that it's logical to assume that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
NACADEMIC does not mention Nobel Prize either, and I don't think a person who does not know what OSA is should be in the position to decide the OSA president is not notable, just as a person who's never heard of NHL should not deny the notability of a pro hockey player. Scientists have far less public visibility than athletes and entertainers, but Wikipedia recognizes that they have long-term significance to humanity, which is why we have NACADEMIC in the first place. Honestly, I don't see the point of continuing this conversation on my talk page. There is an RFC at WT:PROF, and the consensus is overwhelming. -Zanhe (talk) 04:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Wu Yili[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 6 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wu Yili, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that pianist Wu Yili made her public debut in her teens, released her first album in her 70s, and went viral in her 80s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wu Yili. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Wu Yili), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

List of restaurants in China[edit]

Would you be able to look at the April 3rd & March 31 contributions by Special:Contributions/108.35.217.152 to the above article? This IP has been adding huge numbers of items to lists. Today they added many fine-dining restaurants to List of casual dining restaurant chains so I took a look at their contributions history and discovered they have added a ton of stuff to various lists. I saw one of the lists was restaurants in China and thought maybe you could do a reality check to see if their additions appear helpful or not? I don't want to report for vandalism if they're just overenthusiastic, but the restaurants added to the casual dining list are definitely unhelpful. --valereee (talk) 00:51, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: The IP's edits at List of restaurants in China are mostly ok, although it was ridiculous to call the list complete. This is just one of the thousands of crappy lists we have on Wikipedia, and the IP's edits at least didn't make it even worse. -Zanhe (talk) 04:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
hahaha thanks, so probably well-intentioned. I'll just query on their talk, see if maybe there was some method to the madness. --valereee (talk) 10:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the article 'Anissa Chan'[edit]

@Good afternoon: Secondary school principals are not generally considered notable. Is she known for anything else? -Zanhe (talk) 19:14, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
@Good afternoon: I did a bit more research and found that she received the Lui Che Woo Prize [2]. It appears that she is a well known educator. If you can add this and preferably other information about her contributions to the draft and I think it will be ready for publishing. -Zanhe (talk) 19:31, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the information. --Good afternoon (talk) 02:13, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
@Good afternoon: Sorry, just realized I was mistaken. Her page on the Lui Che Woo Prize website actually describes her as a member of the prize selection panel, not as a recipient, see here. She does seem like a prominent educator, but I'm not sure if she's notable enough for Wikipedia. Can you add more substantial media coverage of her career and contributions? -Zanhe (talk) 05:23, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
I will see what I can find. There has been news coverage on her recent post in the government about changes to the education curriculum. Does that suffice? --Good afternoon (talk) 08:52, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
She is the chairperson of the Task Force on Review of School Curriculum in Hong Kong, and she is quite vocal in these kind of matters. SCMP article --Good afternoon (talk) 09:01, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
@Good afternoon: The positions she's held do not by themselves meet WP:GNG. So you need to find in-depth coverage from mainstream media about her career, influence, and contributions, and add the details to the article. A stub merely listing her positions is unlikely to be sufficient. -Zanhe (talk) 19:43, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
I added some details, would you mind checking? Thanks a lot. --Good afternoon (talk) 03:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Good afternoon: I've expanded the draft a bit and accepted it for mainspace. This is a borderline case but I think it has a decent chance of surviving AFD if someone nominates it for deletion. Happy editing! -Zanhe (talk) 06:32, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Happy editing to you too. --Good afternoon (talk) 00:49, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Draft page Zao[edit]

Text submitted by me is a translation (in part) of French Wikipedia article on Zao. Added better reference (https://musique.rfi.fr/artiste/musiques-monde/zao)

Kind regards, E-go-go E-go-go (talk) 19:46, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

@E-go-go: He's probably notable, but the draft has only one source and no inline references. Please improve the sourcing per WP:BLPSOURCES and resubmit. Cheers, -Zanhe (talk) 19:53, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Leetsch C. Hsu[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 7 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Leetsch C. Hsu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chinese mathematician Leetsch C. Hsu and his American colleague Henry W. Gould began collaborating years before formal relations were established between their countries? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Leetsch C. Hsu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Leetsch C. Hsu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yong Mei[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Yong Mei at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:55, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Yuan Baohua[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 10 May 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Yuan Baohua, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Stephen 02:16, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Rong Baisheng[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 14 May 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Rong Baisheng, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:41, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Hu Jinqing[edit]

Ambox current red.svgOn 15 May 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hu Jinqing, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Stephen 00:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Adding an empty infobox[edit]

I just couldn't think of any more detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.102.161.185 (talkcontribs)

Well, then don't add an infobox. An infobox without any info is just a space-wasting, useless box. -Zanhe (talk) 04:21, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Xiao Yang (judge)[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 16 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Xiao Yang (judge), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after Chief Justice Xiao Yang implemented reforms requiring all capital punishment cases to be reviewed by the Supreme Court, death sentences in China dropped by 30% in a year? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Xiao Yang (judge). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Xiao Yang (judge)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

feminist (talk) 02:06, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Chen Tiemei[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Chen Tiemei at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:25, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Xiong Zhaoren[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 17 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Xiong Zhaoren, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Xiong Zhaoren, whose battle experience was adapted into two films, lived to 107, the longest among China's founding generals? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Xiong Zhaoren. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Xiong Zhaoren), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Ukrainian scientist[edit]

Hello. Could you be so kind to review one more time this draft -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yevgeniy_Zadorin

Source was added.

Dr Yevgeniy Zadorin - is ukrainian scientist and well known medical doctor Thank you.

DYK for Yong Mei[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 20 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Yong Mei, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mongolian-Chinese actress Yong Mei won the Silver Bear at the 2019 Berlin International Film Festival for her portrayal of a mother who lost her only son? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Yong Mei. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Yong Mei), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Guo Kun[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 21 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Guo Kun, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that explorer Guo Kun led the construction of China's first Antarctic research base, parts of which have been declared Historic Sites and Monuments in Antarctica? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Guo Kun. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Guo Kun), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Dai Anlan[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Dai Anlan at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)