User talk:Zntrip/Archive 1

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Welcome

Hi and welcome to wikipedia. I noticed you had a blank talk page, so I decided to welcome you. I hope you like it and decide to stay. Here are some handy links for newcomers.

Also you can sign your name on talk pages and vote pages with three tildes like this ~~~, and your name with a time stamp with four like this ~~~~. Howabout1 23:29, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Basque Country

Please don't replace Basque Country with Basque, these two are not the same. The autonomous region of Spain, País Vasco, is known in English as Basque Country. -- Naive cynic 22:55, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

List of official languages by country

I'm not sure if you have any idea about what the Chinese languages is like.. The spoken and written languages are two different things. There are many mutually not intelligible spoken languages, but sharing the same writing standard. Mandarin is the official spoken language used nationalwide. In the case of Hong Kong and Macau Chinese is official according to laws, whereas Cantonese and Mandarin are both de facto official spoken languages. — Instantnood 07:25, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Let's not talk about writing system. Chinese is many spoken languages but one written language. There are plenty of well-written articles on Wikipedia on this topic. — Instantnood 08:28, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
For the list of official languages, I assume we are not only talking about spoken languages, but written languages as well. For the PRC, Chinese is the official written language, and Standard Mandarin is the official spoken language. Listing only Mandarin is not presenting the whole side of the fact. — Instantnood 06:39, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
I am not going to further argue on writing systems, for I agree that is a list of languages. The trouble with Chinese is that it is many spoken languages, but one written language. The written language is of course official. Among the many spoken languages, only standard Mandarin is having official status. — Instantnood 06:48, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

State or Country

You appear to misunderstand the difference between the word state and the word country. Please do your homework before blanket deletions of other peoples work. It would not do you any harm at all to read up more about the (very odd) constitutional situation in the UK: United Kingdom, Constituent Countries, Home Nations, British Isles (terminology).--Mais oui! 10:45, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Languages in RoM

You can check the Republic of Macedonia article - the languages that are co-official are Albanian, Turkish, Serbian, and Romany. These are official only in those municipalities where the ethnic group who speaks the relevant language constitute a significant minority (that is, at least 20% of the inhabitants of that municipality). Because Albanian is spoken by more than 20% of the citizens of the Republic of Macedonia, it is spoken in the parliament, but the Chairman cannot run the session in Albanian. Hope this is the information you needed? --FlavrSavr 14:53, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

I really don't know which municipalities have co-official languages. I googled for info, but all I found out was the number of municipalities that have co-official (and the names of the municipalities where Turkish, Romany, and Serbian is in co-official use). Namely:

  • Macedonian - The Macedonian language is official statewide regardless of the number of ethnic Macedonians in a certain municipality.
  • Albanian - it is co-official in 29 of the 84 municipalities, located in the western and northwestern parts of the country. It is also spoken in the Parliament.
  • Turkish - it is co-official in 4 of the 84 municipalities, located in the western part of the country
  • Romany - it is co-official in one municipality, this is the Suto Orizari municipality, located north of Skopje.
  • Serbian - it is co-official in one municipality, this is the Cucer-Sandevo municipality, located north of Skopje, as well.

The last two municipalities (Suto Orizari, and Cucer Sandevo) are actually trilingual, because, alongside Macedonian, Albanian is also co-official there.

The Bosnian and the Aromanian language are sometimes used in NGO pamphlets, but they, at the moment have no official status in none of these municipalities (these ethnic minorities are small, and dispersed throughout the country).

I'm not sure how to put this info onto the list. Regards. --FlavrSavr 00:28, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

It was a pleasure :-). --FlavrSavr 03:10, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Mormonism and Christianity

Z, I agree with your statement that the majority of Christian churches do not view Mormonism as Christian. But it is a fascinating to study why they believe it is not Christian. Much boils down to the Mormonism's rejection of the concept of the Trinity as initally defined at the Council of Nicea in 325. How does a church determine that regardless of one's belief in Christ, which is the Bible's description of a believer or Christian evolve into "you must believe as I do or you are not Christian". Though I find it fascinating, I also find it very sad. How many times to we persecute other religions before we learn that as we persecute we depart from the Spirit of Christ.

Back to the issue, should it be included; Yes, it should. BUT, it should not be in the introductory paragraphs. It should follow later in the article where other conflicting information is introduced in order to be balanced.

If I seemed abrupt, please forgive me. I have been on the receiving end of persecution too often by "Christians". I need to be more humble. Regardless, I hope to see your continued edits. Storm Rider 06:36, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Bhutan

Well I'm not sure why the Nepali language entry was there for so long, but anyways the references are for the entire article are quoted in the Bhutan article itself under ==References== section. The specific source for the official languages are : Bhutan Portal =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:16, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Jimbo Wales to Attend San Diego Meetup on October 18 2005

Hello, Jimbo Wales will be in San Diego to attend OOPSLA and has agreed to come by and visit with the San Diego wikipedians. If you are interested, you will find more info on my talk page. Johntex\talk 00:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the reply. I was in major copy/paste mode inviting everyone in the "Category:Wikipedians in Southern California" I didn't take time to see who is up in LA vs Orange county vs SD... Of course, there is always Interstate 5 or Amtrak if you really want to come down. :-) Johntex\talk 22:56, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm willing to drive there, and willing to carpool... --AllyUnion (talk) 12:37, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
No problem. --AllyUnion (talk) 20:20, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Terrorism

Just to let you know before you revert--I removed two attacks you added to the List of terrorist incidents page: the militant attacks in Thailand and the truck bombing in Iraq. Not because I don't think they aren't terrorism, but because I don't think they are significant enough to be listed. There have been many more attacks in southern Thailand that have killed more people than the ones you listed, and there have been dozens of car bombings in Iraq with more deaths than the one you put on. Since they happen so frequently in those countries, we should only list very significant attacks or ones with very high number of casualties (such as the Hillah bombings, the Mussayib one, the Palestine Hotel, etc.). PBP 20:47, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Airliner page

I put this on the "Accidents and Incidents on airliners" talk page, but I'll repeat it here since you seem to be adding most of the crashes in question: I propose that we "clean up" the Accidents/Incidents page and remove most of the relatively minor crashes from 2005. I'm not saying they're not "important" with respect to those who died, but I'm saying that in the general scheme of things (history), they're not notable. Other events, such as the Air France or the JetBlue incidents, are somewhat notable (see they're pages as to why). PBP 01:59, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

List of state leaders

And I still approve time that it you write false, inconsistent and not the exact information. Roitr 22:37, 11 December 2005

I am sorry, but I think,that it you not listening to logic and imposes your personal opinion.--Tt1 18:46, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Numismatics

Welcome to WikiProject Numismatics. I see you've already put the member template on your user page. Feel free to participate in our ongoing arguments. (I mean "discussions".) I look forward to working with you in the future. --TantalumTelluride 05:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Re:Taiwan vs. ROC

Nope, there's no policy that I know of that states whether Taiwan/ROC should be under 'C' or 'T'. That's probably why we have a group of users edit-warring over the matter. The closest thing we have is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese), which prescibes the use of "Republic of China", but does not say where in the alphabet it belongs. I personally think it should go under 'T' since the "Republic of China" is most commonly referred to as "Taiwan" and that's where people would be looking, but I don't quite feel strongly about this enough to do anything. I think a poll somewhere is needed. --Jiang 03:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I am aware of that discussion page and constantly monitor it, but I don't see any discussion on what Alanmak is doing, i.e., alphabetizing Taiwan under "c" for "China, Republic of". There really isnt any policy or consensus on this. Personally, I don't think anyone in their sane mind would want to go to "c" looking for Taiwan.--Jiang 06:27, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I've made a proposal at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Chinese)#Naming_conventions_for_lists. Feel free to comment, agree, disagree, etc --Jiang 12:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I implemented the proposed policy since it has not received any objections. But Alanmak refuses to discuss this and keeps reverting me at List of indoor arenas and list of stadiums...--Jiang 21:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

WTO

Hi there; thanks for your note. Though generally a unified state, Serbia and Montenegro are listed as separate WTO observers, hence the split on the relevant maps. I hope this helps. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 06:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Re:Liechtenstein frank

My edition is the one with euro coins on the cover. It does have a few coins listed after 1970. Regarding legal tender status. Actually I am not sure. --Chochopk 13:46, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:Global_spread_of_H5N1_map.PNG

Slovakia and Bosnia should be in red since wild bird cases are confirmed in these two countries —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkkc (talkcontribs) 14:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Note that you should not include countries in your image if the cases are not confirmed by official reports by OIE (animal cases) or WHO. Please don't hurry just because you hear journalist reports. Many informations are not confirmed, just suspected: avian flu actually exists since many centuries, and have caused outbreaks throughout the history, including in the USA (Pennsylvania, New Yord State, California, Maryland...), many of them being of H2 and H7 genotypic types, many being highly pathogenic in birds, but not being of type H5N1. Even so, H5N1 is not deminstrated to be dangerous for humans, unlike the seasonnal flu which is often of type H2 or H7. The various flu reservoirs exists throughout the world.
So consult the OIE and WHO official reports: between a suspected outbreak and confirmation we need at least 2weeksfor the first test (at that time a first suspcisionreport will be published by OIE), and 2 other weeks for the confirmation. For human cases, a death is not a proof by itself. There are tens of thousands of humans dying every day in the world for various reasons. Thanks. Verdy P 22:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Subst'ing

It is my understanding that the inclusion of a template on a page puts a tiny extra bit of strain on the Wikipedia servers (see WP:SUBST#Reasons to substitute) - generally not much to complain of, but this particular template is used on over 6,000 pages, so that load seems unnecessary. BD2412 T 13:41, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

In response to your message

Well, please first stop pushing your own point of view. Whether Cantonese, Mandarin, Taiwanese, Shanghainese, Hunanese are separate languages, or dialects of the same language is controversial, and still does not have a conclusion accepted by all people. This is discussed in the article Identification of the varieties of Chinese. The phrases "Cantonese Chinese" and "Mandarin Chinese" do exist. In the section for the People's Republic of China in the article List of official languages by state, you can see that there are a whole bunch of minority languages that are official and are not Chinese language(s). The word "Chinese" is used to distinguish those languages/dialects that are actually Chinese. Also, a lot of people who have no background in this topic at all would intuitively think that the official language of China is, of course, Chinese. But it is surprising that they can't find "Chinese" under the section for the People's Republic of China in that article. The word "Chinese" in "Mandarin Chinese" and "Cantonese Chinese" has certain importance in this particular article.

For the issue about Taiwan, whether "Taiwan" is the short name of the Republic of China is also under disputed in the talk pages of some other articles. "Greece" can be undisputably used as a short name for "Hellenic Republic" in Wikipedia, because even the Olympic Games use the name "Greece" to the national team of Greece, but "Taiwan" is not called "Taiwan" in the Olympic Games. The case of "Taiwan" has more politics behind. The fact that "Taiwan" is not referred to as "Taiwan" in Olympic Games and the Soccer World Cup, and the fact that the United Nations have to refer to the Taiwan Area as "Taiwan, Province of China" show that it is pretty disputable to use "Taiwan" as the name of a nation. Besides that, the Government of the Republic of China is recognized as the government of "China", instead of the government of "Taiwan", by the Holy See. It is, therefore, not precise to call it "Taiwan". Furthermore, putting "Taiwan" as a nation is somehow offensive to the supporters of the pan-blue coalition in Taiwan, and the supporters of Chinese reunification. I have suggested, in the talk page of another article, that the short names "China, P.R." and "China, R.O." would be more neutral, as they are just the initials of the official names. This is consistent with the short names "Korea, R.O." and "Korea, D.P.R.". The case for Taiwan is, to a certain extent, analogous to the case of Korea. The division of both China and Korea are results of civil wars during the Cold War era (See Chinese Civil War). "Taiwan" is the name of a province before (and actually after, see Taiwan Province) the division of China. It doesn't make sense to refer to North Korea as "Korea", and then refer to South Korea as "Jeju", right? - Alanmak 10:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Official status

Re: [1] - ROC's terminolgy for what is called Standard Mandarin on Wikipedia is Kuo-yü, which literal meaning is "state speech", i.e. "national language". Some laws regarding application of language requires using Chung-wen for text, and Kuo-yü for verbal information, e.g. the Television Broadcasting Act. — Instantnood 17:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome. :-) — Instantnood 19:57, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Question from France about H5N1/map

Hello, a french wikipedist (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:C%C3%A9dricGravelle) asked me to wright to you to ask you if you agree him to put your H5N1 red map on the French wikipedia, on the page : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1 (he don’t speak English).
Do you agree ? If yes, I will tell him you are OK. or if you prefer you can tell him directly with simple words (or in french if you're able).
Sorry my English is not very good too. Thanks and thank you for your good work F Lamiot --Lamiot 19:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Currency

Hello,

I woke up this morning, and I found 50 more currencies now have infoboxes! Thank you! I thought nobody was gonna help me. By the way, have you read the instruction? There are many optional properties you can specify when appropriate. And you don't have to put "http://" for websites, as it is automatically added when the infobox renders. Cheers. --Chochopk 23:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI, I fixed Scandinavian and 2nd half of Africa yesterday. --Chochopk 23:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. I appreciate your effort of adding currency infoboxes, which is what I always want to do too. I would like to ask you the following simple things, just to ensure the consistency.

  1. It is ok to put coins of subunits and coins of main unit on the same line. You might as well save some space if they fit in one line
  2. If the infobox has a wiki link or external link to the central bank, remove duplicate entry in the article's "See also" and "External link section"
  3. Bypass redirect, like [[Dollar sign|$]]
  4. Sometime CIA's inflation figures are not 2005 estimate
  5. Use rarely_used_* only if you're very sure. Normally only the people who have lived there (including tourism) would know.

Of course, I am open to suggestions. Thanks for making things better! =)

--Chochopk 04:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I started a vote about style on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics --Chochopk 08:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

If the CIA World Fact Book says "est." on the inflation, please also put that like "CIA World Fact Book, 2005 est.". Also, is there a reason you changed it to "The World Factbook"? --Chochopk 00:39, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be more clear if we include "CIA" somehow, like "The World Factbook, CIA, 2005 est." ? --Chochopk 01:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Numismatics

Just something to keep ya busy!  :)

Here are some Numismatics related tasks you can do

 Joe  I 21:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:Georgian lari

Hi. Regarding your question about the currency sign of GEL, there's no special symbol designed. Instead, ლარი in Georgian script is generally used. I added it to the List of circulating currencies. Hope this helps. All the best! --Kober 19:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Recent moves

Your recent moves are not in accordance with the normal disambiguation policy of the Wikiproject on tropical cyclones, as a heads up I'll be reverting them. – Chacor 04:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


Appologies on removing the AfD tag

Sorry about that - the tag looks different from the last time I looked at it (it now looks very similar at a glance to the prod tag) - combined with your edit summary - I assumed your were re-prodding the articles.

My mistake.

Sorry.

Megapixie 03:50, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

code of Zimbabwean dollar

User talk:Pgcohen disagrees. But I'm not sure. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 08:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Response to Air Crash feedback

Thanks for the feedback on the articles I have created. More imprtantly and to the point, many thanks for informing me about the formats to use for article titles and for additions to the list of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft - I was aware that there apeared to be some sort of unofiacial concensus on how to go about such things, but being rather new here, I had no idea what it was. Finally, thanks for your tireless correction of all the little fidly errors I seem to unwitingly make in my edits - it is very much apreciated! - Blood red sandman 19:57, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

native name of Kyrgyzstani som

Isn't "сом" masculine in Russian (because it ends in a consonant) and "Кыргызская" feminine (because it ends with ая)? Are you sure it's grammatically correct? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 07:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Turkish Airlines Flight 1476

Thanks for your message regarding Turkish Airlines Flight 1476. Your right, a lot of work is needed. Since it only occured in the last few days, there is a possibility of it apearing in "in the news". I will give the article a few days, in which it may or may not apear there, and then I will get to work on it. Blood red sandman 06:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I want to apologise for not being able to work on the article yet. I found it relatively easy to find a spare half-hour or so to perform other, more minor tasks on diferent areas of the site, but I am having dificulty in finding enough time to work on this article. I'll try to get to it soon, in the meantime, just bear with me. - Blood red sandman 06:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Zntrip, you've already splitted sections. It was on my to-do list. While splitting sections you've broke some refs, i fix them. There are a few more new info on Turkish news, i'll add them soon to the article. Cheers --Ugur Basak 09:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft - tense reversion

Hi Zntrip, FWIW I support your last reversion. As I mentioned a while back on the Talk page, I think we need consistency in tenses (and other style issues). My own personal preference for this type of chronological list is to use present tense as it sounds more dynamic, flowing and interesting. But in any case one can't just change one year to a given style. Thanks, Crum375 22:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I proposed this in July, and should have followed up and didn't, since I saw no responses, yea nay, whatsoever. A short time later I added this combined suggestion, which also fizzled out for lack of sufficient response. And of course there is the ongoing inclusion debate, which is another issue. But getting back to standardized style, I agree that we should try to get a clear consensus, then add the style guide at the top of the article (or whatever convention is used by WP for List styles). I certainly don't want to go and edit the whole article one way and then have someone revert all that work, so we must have clear consensus. If you want to move forward on this, count me in. (Or I can lead, your choice). Crum375 00:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'll research other lists to see how style is enforced. Once I'm ready I'll start the process. Thanks, Crum375 00:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

If you haven't yet, please see my draft proposal. Thanks, Crum375 16:25, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect talk page

I have copied your comments from Talk talk:List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft/Guideline for inclusion criteria and format to Talk:List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft, as the former is an incorrect talk page, which I will nominate for deletion shortly. — Tivedshambo (talk) 17:07, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I moved them again to Wikipedia talk:List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft/Guideline for inclusion criteria and format. —Wknight94 (talk) 18:14, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Entries without article links

Hi Zntrip, please note that I incorporated changes due to your comment in 2 sections of the proposal, under 'inclusion' and 'enforcement', reflecting my suggestion that we encourage people with entries that are potentially includable except they lack an article, to temporarily insert the entry into the main Talk page until we can whip up an article for them. Your comments are welcome (about this and the rest). Tahnks, Crum375 18:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Audiofrog

It's not nonsense

its describing a great place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audiofrog (talkcontribs) 23:36, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

its spelled sense

if you could read, you'd realize that it makes perfect sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audiofrog (talkcontribs) 23:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Audiofrog (talkcontribs) 23:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Deletion

Want to talk about it rather then putting it up for deletion instantly? ~Rangeley (talk) 03:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Well? ~Rangeley (talk) 03:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion protocol / vandalism

Thanks for the heads up. I just skimmed through the speedy deletion article and just used the first tag I came across instead of the ones specifically for speedy deletion. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Glennchan (talkcontribs) 07:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Election results

Hello. Would you share with me your source for election results in Delaware. My sources give a slighly different number, and I'm wondering which is correct. Thanks. stilltim 01:48, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Symbol for florins

I believe that ƒ is the symbol for both. But I must point out that xe, while I trust more than other average sites, made a mistake on Chinese renminbi, Hong Kong dollar, and New Taiwan dollar. 元 and 圓 are both "yuan" and therefore the full name of the unit in Chinese. They are not symbols. I am a Chinese so I know that for a fact. I have reverted many attempts to place 元 and 圓 as symbols, on the list of circulating, or on the individual articles themselves. By the same token, I also place some doubts on the other non-Latin currencies, especially the Arabic speaking ones. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Marshall Islands Dollar

Hi, Zntrip,

The latest Marshall Islands dollar issue that I know of is from 1996 -

If this is not recent enough to be considered "circulating", then feel free to take it down.

Please note though, that the most recent Nauruan dollar (which is still listed on the page) that I've ever seen is from 1994. --MosheA 03:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

2006 Tonga riots

I'm disturbed by some of the changes you made to this article. You removed references to Sione Langi's pictures (youths in "gangsta" attire, "Warlords" spraypainted on looted shop) and replaced them with generalizations. Since the evidence for what I wrote is right there in the pictures, I don't see why you would remove the detail. I also do not understand why you claim that the crowd was attacking the royal palace. None of the news sources I've read say anything at all about that. They attacked the Prime Minister's office, but that's NOT the palace.

I'll also post this on the article discussion page. Do let us know your reasoning. Zora 02:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

WPMCR

Wikipedia:WikiProject My Chemical Romance/Inviteicelandic hurricane #12 (talk) 22:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

My Chemical Romance's chart positions

Welcome to the Black Parade is currently at #9 on both Hot 100 and Pop 100, true. But #9 is also their PEAK. Just check it on Billboard's site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Axiemeister (talkcontribs) 14:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

Award

Minor Barnstar.png I, Joe I,award this barnstar for all the updates you've done for WikiProject Numismatics. Joe I 22:33, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

United Nations Mission in Nepal

Just wanted to make sure you new about the new UN peacekeeping mission, United Nations Mission in Nepal (UNMIN) so you could add it to all the peacekeeping lists. I can never keep track of them. :P – Zntrip 00:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but I created the article, so I ought to know about it. ;) Still, it's only a political mission and not a peacekeeping one, actually, so it doesn't need to be added. I should clarify that in the article. —Nightstallion (?) 06:25, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Symbol for Romanian leu

There is actually no such symbol - instead, the word lei (or leu, for singular) is used (it is short enough). And sometimes, the ISO code (RON).- Andrei 08:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Rock Festival 2006 cover.gif)

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Euro sign/punctuation

You removed the punctuation infobox from the Euro sign article, claiming the Euro sign is not punctuation. The Euro sign is, however, in the infobox itself, as well as the dollar, pound, yen etc. signs. For consistency and common sense, this means that either the infobox should be in the Euro sign article or that all currency signs should be removed from the infobox and related articles.

If you feel that currency signs are not punctuation, please be so kind to address the issue more thoroughly, preferably in the punctuation article or infobox talk pages, instead of removing parts of a greater entity at a whim. SergioGeorgini 13:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction and good luck with future editing. SergioGeorgini 23:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Arabic and Hebrew on Template: Infobox Currency

Just a reminder. – Zntrip 02:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem found. This is a work-around. I will start a discussion on Template talk:Languageicon soon. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Timezone

From this edit, I can tell that you still set your Wikipedia time zone preference at UTC-8, yes? Just a kind reminder that it's DST now =). --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

2007 Transaviaexport Cargo Airline Ilyushin Il-76 airplane crash

Hi Zntrip,

Good to 'see' you again after so long! Thanks for the note about the plane crash, the news hadn't reached me (and may never have done). I'll get straight to work; maybe I can have it on ITN before the night's out. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Nice start to those other articles (except, obviously, Air West, which is a pre-existing stub). I may also look at them if I get time - in particular, the arms depot explosion looks interesting - but I have commitments piling up now, and two week's holiday in Italy start in just a week's time for me, too. If I can, though, I will. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 09:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
By the way, would you be interested in joining the disaster management WikiProject (whose scope is as much individual disasters as management, despite the name)? As it would apear to me that the project might quite suit you! Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 10:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:WorldCurrencies

Can I ask why you reverted my edits? I don't think templates belong in main namespace categories (that is, categories which are designed for readers rather than editors). I posted about this Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics#categories and the one response agreed. Ingrid 00:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. My point is that the template should not be in the categories. It is not a circulating currency, or a currency of wherever. It is a Category:Numismatics utility templates. Or did you understand that part, and I'm just not understanding you? Ingrid 03:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!


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Take care, Ruhrfisch 17:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
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  • You are too kind, Ruhrfisch 20:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Discographies

Seeing as a discography is a list of albumns and singles produced by band or artiste, I would say yes, these are lists, and thus potentially Featured Lists. Tompw (talk)

Template:Currencies of Oceania

[2] May I ask why? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed Template:Currencies of Oceania from Category:Circulating currencies beacuse of Ingrid’s concern voiced here. She was advocating removing templates from main namespace categories. Template:WorldCurrencies is the only currency template in the category because it contains templates that automatically link in to the category page (i.e. all pages with Temp:Currencies of Africa link to Cat:Circulating currencies). – Zntrip 03:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Nerver mind, I didn't see the removed line was in noinclude. I'm sorry about taking your time. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Covers

There is a precedent set by articles such as Knockin' On Heaven's Door to put it all on one page. I personally think it's ridiculous to have an article for every single cover version of a song (see List of songs covered by Pearl Jam - having a page for each of those would be silly!). Some users do have issues with this (see the Hellraiser (song) page for a merge discussion currently taking place), but I would merge the articles.

Hope that helps. :) --Jamdav86 07:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Playboy rich

Zntrip-

I've blocked Playboy rich; do me a favor and read over the warning I left him on his talk page, and keep your eye on him to see if he starts playing nice. If he does and he's still blocked, drop me a line and I'll unblock him ASAP. Thanks, A Traintalk 05:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

2006 People's Liberation Army Air Force KJ-200 crash

I have placed the article on my to-do list; I will do some serious work to it soon. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Jadarite

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My Chemical Newsletter

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WikiProject My Chemical Romance Newsletter
Issue 001 – May 2007

My Chemical News
  • Congratulations to Mikey and Alicia Way who got married backstage at the Las Vegas show in March!!
  • MCR has started the 3rd leg of their Black Parade tour. Their supporting act for this leg is Muse. The tour is currently scheduled to end in mid-May.
  • MCR's 4th single off The Black Parade, Teenagers, was pushed back. It will now be released May 1st.
  • Mikey will be taking time off the tour for a honeymoon. His replacement will be Matt Cortez. Cortez will play bass for the rest of the US and Canada shows.
  • It was recently confirmed by guitarist Ray Toro that MCR will headline the Projekt Revolution tour, along with Linkin Park, HIM, Saosin, and other yet to be announced bands.
Project News
  • Teenagers was recently confirmed to be the 4th single off The Black Parade.
  • Orfen proposed a major revamping of the project which was carried out by multiple members of the project. For further news and information please visit the project talk page.
Member News
  • Moralis was recently nominated for adminship.
  • Cianjg joined the project.


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2006 Slovak Air Force Antonov An-24 crash

Thanks for contacting me re the above article. You're right, I'm interested, I'll see what I can do (as a proirity if I can, then we can see the article up on DYK). Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 06:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

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2007 Paramount Airlines helicopter crash

I'll be very busy over the next week, but I've kept meaning to do a chopper crash, so I'll try and make time for this one since this one's current. Failing that, I should be able to spend more time online starting next week, which means all my delayed projects can go ahead. Thanks for getting the ball rolling. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 06:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Edits to My Chemical Romance singles

Parentheses? I don't remember anything about using a ( ... whatever. I'd like to know why you argue that the edits by me from my IP address were not credible considering the fact that you distinguish "CD single" from "CD" (quite obviously, you prefer the latter and I prefer the former) yet you continue to leave "7" vinyl" intact. That's contradictory considering 7" vinyl is distinguishing the type of gramophone record, which I see you've linked to, and thus, to remain consistent, you'd have to re-type that as "Vinyl record" like you did with CD single and CD. 210.50.189.37 09:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Please don't think I'm making or forcing you to do it, and please don't consider it a threat; I'd be happy to do it... And by parentheses I think you meant quotation marks (your ”'s are hardly used - I may be wrong - so I replace them with "). 210.50.189.37 09:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

P.P.S. If you want to reply, please write back on my talk page. User:Ss112 09:41, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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Mark Levine

Vitalmove has not provided a single source establishing that Mark Levine is in anyway associated with Press TV. Levine's "nationally syndicated" talkshow and radio show are both made through public access. Oddly enough, I know him personally. He is not notable at all. He has never mentioned working for Press TV. Perspicacite 07:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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Bolding links in List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft

Thanks for re-proposing bolding the links to the various articles on the list page. I had actually started on it back in March and had completed about 2/3 of the bolding before it was reverted by another editor (I guess because I was an unfamiliar face on the page). Out of frustration, I hadn't bothered to visit the page again until recently and was pleasantly surprised to see the bold links again. In any event, I think it makes the list much more useful. Kudos! ++Arx Fortis 07:28, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

PRESS TV

A short while back you commented on the reliability of PRESS TV. The same user, Vitalmove, is again trying to add in the same nonsense about it being independent and reliable. See [3]. Perspicacite 19:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

sorry

I am one day behind thank for letting me know that it happened one day head--S172142230149 01:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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Standard Catalog of World Coins and Standard Catalog of World Paper Money

Having the catalogue numbers in numismatic articles is very useful, as there are some people who cannot afford to buy the books themselves. Here's a typical example of an article based on one of these books; Banknotes of the Swakopmund Bookshop (South West Africa). When new banknotes and coins are issued, the articles are easy to update to take this into account. - (Numismaticman 13:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC))

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Sock puppett

Someone has already block User:Noway419 again, this time for 48 hours. I just blocked User:Thistime19 for 48 hours. This is a very unique type of vandalism. They're almost assuredly socks of each other. You should report it to: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. Rlevse 01:12, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Quotes

Why do you keep reverting the quotation marks used on My Chemical Romance discography? They are not wrong... I know why I change them to ", because those quotes are more commonly used then the other, more slanty ones. I know you said you copy and paste them from the archived version (I don't know if you did on this page, or not), but it's hardly "copy and pasting from the archived version" if you consistently change it back... and you even said before you didn't care about how they looked; so, if you don't care, leave them? I don't want this to turn into an edit war... User:Ss112 09:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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List of circulating currencies

I am disturbed by your edits to list of circulating currencies, specifically the removal of the entry of “Palestine”. If you bothered to look at the source, which you claimed did not mention the Palestinian territories, you would have found that the “Gaza Strip” and “West Bank” are both listed as using the Israeli new sheqel and the latter as also using the Jordanian dinar. If you have any objections to the content of the page, I suggest you leave a comment on its talk page. In addition, claiming that information is not sourced does not warrant its removal, especially if it is in fact true. – Zntrip 03:02, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I did look at the source. It clearly states "Gaza strip"/"West Bank" and not Palestine. There's a huge difference. Radical-Dreamer 17:54, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Mama (My Chemical Romance song)

Hi Zntrip. I was just wondering why you removed the wikidate formatting from the "Mama" article? When a full date is used, hcard formatting of the wikidate should always be used. I also wonder why you removed the label the album's being released under? The sources provided (under the references) only indicate WEA/Warner as the record company, not reprise (though I haven't removed reprise as it's likely it's going to have double-billing). --lincalinca 06:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

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American Music Awards of 2007

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What the hell are you talking about? Did you even read the article? None of it was plagiarized and the link you gave is the source of the information! I expect you to stop this at once. – Zntrip 23:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
The article was a straight cut & paste from its source. That's why it was tagged. Only an admin should have removed the tag. But since you've raised it, I will report it at WP:ANI. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 23:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Random personal things

Wow, Zntrip, it looks like a lot of people dislike you on Wikipedia. Anyway, I thought you'd be pleased to hear that I just averted a near-disaster in the "Now You Know" section. You know what I mean. Ushanka 20:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:List of notable accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft/Guideline for inclusion criteria and format

Hi Zntrip, you may be interested in chiming on this MfD. Thanks, Crum375 20:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Karibu Airways

Hi Zntrip. Feel free to create distinct accident articles if you think its beneficial. Right now its rolled into the Airline article only because sound source material on these things is pretty scarce and pretty transient in the DRC. I'm trying to capture the news coverage and archival versions as it arises. Help would be more than welcome.LeadSongDog 06:40, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the heads-up. I will read the MOS before making moves from now on. STORMTRACKER 94 20:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)