West derby (Romania)
![]() ![]() Poli fans (top) and UTA fans (bottom). | |
Other names | Poli vs. UTA |
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Location | ![]() |
Teams | FC Politehnica Timișoara / SS Politehnica Timișoara and UTA Arad |
First meeting | ITA Arad 2–0 CSU Timișoara 1948–49 Divizia A (29 August 1948) |
Latest meeting | UTA Arad 1–1 SS Politehnica Timișoara 2016–17 Liga II (13 November 2016) |
Next meeting | 2017 |
Statistics | |
Meetings total | 73 |
Most wins | UTA Arad (29) |
The West Derby (Romanian: Derby-ul Vestului) is a match between the fierce rivals SS Politehnica Timișoara and UTA Arad, the biggest and most popular football clubs in the western of Romania.
History and context
At first glance, the reasons for rivalry between Timișoara and Arad are multiple. At first sight, it's the rivalry between the cities, both with a rich economic and cultural activity. Then it would be the postwar period, when, in administratively terms, Arad destiny was decided by Timișoara. In football, the two cities dispute the status of pioneer in the Romanian football. All these aspects have contributed to today's enmity, between Poli and UTA. A decisive episode, however, was consumed in 1964.
The flame that lit irreversible the rivalry between Poli and UTA was the match from 16 May 1964 in Timișoara. Both teams were hungry for points and the pressure was greater on the shoulders of Timișoara players, who were in a tough situation, the bottom of the table. Over 25,000 spectators stormed the new stadium on May 16, a stadium that was not completely built.
On UTA's bench was Coloman Braun-Bogdan aka "Csibi", coach that a year before finished in 3rd place with Timișoara. After a quarrel with Remus Lazăr and Nelu Igna, it has been removed from the team and took over UTA. So it's understandable that the famous coach have to pay some "debts".
"Csibi not come alone, but with the referee Lulu Mihăilescu. They have scored a goal from offside, led us, and when we equalized at 3-3, Lereter scored, but the referee canceled the goal. When people saw that, they triggered the scandal", remember, many years ago, Cicerone Manolache, one of the protagonists of that match. Then followed a bombing rocks on the lockers. The police intervened, but viewers could not be calmed so easy. Witnesses said that one of the police cars was overthrown by Druckers (Poli fans). The whole incident was left with arrests and expulsions for students who actively participated in the scandal.
Timișoara stadium was suspended, they disputed their last home matches in exile, at Reșița. At the end of that edition of the championship, Știința Timișoara relegated.[1]
In the last 20 years, both teams faced financial problems, so the meetings between them becoming rarer, but perhaps more explosive. Firstly FC Politehnica Timișoara, it was the one who had financial problems in the early 2000s. Then Timișoara recovered and returns in the first league through an alliance with AEK București, they became for a short period Politehnica AEK Timișoara. But 2000s did not have to be gentle with their great rival, UTA Arad, as well. They played mostly in the second league except the moment when promoted instead of Liberty Salonta, which promoted on the pitch, but sold it's place. Then in the early 2010s, both teams arrived in the second league. Then in 2012 FC Politehnica Timișoara went bankrupt and it was followed by her biggest rival UTA Arad, two years later, in 2014.[2][3] If at Arad the team started from Liga IV, being supported by everyone and holding the old team record and logo, at Timișoara things had to be more complicated. After the dissolution of FC Politehnica Timișoara in 2012, appeared 2 teams. ACS Poli Timișoara, former ACS Recaș which was moved from Recaș to Timișoara and inheriting the old team record, a team that is supported by local authorities. The second one is SS Politehnica Timișoara, a team supported by the fans of Poli (Druckeria), who started its road from Liga V. UTA fans consider SS Politehnica Timișoara as their real rival because it is supported by FC Politehnica Timișoara fans.
On 13 November 2016, UTA and Poli met again, for the first time in this new format. The match end drew but UTA Arad had possession and occasions.[clarification needed] Even though UTA controlled the match from the beginning to end, Poli managed to score the opening goal. Later, UTA scored and the match ended 1-1.[4]
Statistics
- As of 14 November 2016
Competition | Played | Politehnica wins | Draws | UTA wins | Politehnica goals | UTA goals |
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Divizia A / Liga I | 52 | 15 | 16 | 21 | 65 | 78 |
Divizia B / Liga II | 19 | 8 | 5 | 6 | 26 | 24 |
Cupa României | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 5 |
Total | 73 | 23 | 21 | 29 | 93 | 107 |
Meetings
All-known meetings:
Date | Venue | Score | Competition |
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29 August 1948 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–0 | Divizia A |
20 March 1949 | Știința | 0–0 | |
4 June 1950 | Francisc von Neumann | 4–0 | |
29 October 1950 | Știința | 2–1 | |
25 March 1951 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–2 | |
26 August 1951 | Știința | 0–3 | |
19 April 1953 | Știința | 0–0 | |
4 October 1953 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–0 | |
21 October 1953 | Știința | 1–4 | Cupa României |
16 June 1954 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–1 | Divizia A |
27 October 1954 | Știința | 4–0 | |
20 March 1955 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–0 | |
28 August 1955 | Știința | 1–4 | |
1 July 1956 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–2 | |
11 November 1956 | Știința | 3–2 | |
8 September 1957 | Francisc von Neumann | 3–3 | |
20 April 1958 | Știința | 2–2 | |
21 September 1958 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–1 | |
29 March 1959 | Știința | 1–2 | |
13 October 1960 | Știința | 2–3 | |
23 April 1961 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–1 | |
3 September 1961 | Știința | 1–0 | |
1 April 1962 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–1 | |
28 November 1962 | Francisc von Neumann | 3–2 | |
21 April 1963 | Știința | 1–1 | |
20 October 1963 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–1 | |
16 May 1964 | 1 Mai | 3–3 | |
5 September 1965 | Francisc von Neumann | 0–0 | |
10 April 1966 | 1 Mai | 1–0 | |
9 November 1966 | Francisc von Neumann | 5–2 | |
28 May 1967 | 1 Mai | 4–2 | |
9 December 1973 | Francisc von Neumann | 3–0 | |
19 June 1974 | 1 Mai | 1–3 | |
10 November 1974 | 1 Mai | 0–0 | |
18 May 1975 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–0 | |
23 November 1975 | 1 Mai | 3–0 | |
9 June 1976 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–1 | |
10 October 1976 | 1 Mai | 2–1 | |
15 May 1977 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–1 | |
12 October 1977 | 1 Mai | 1–1 | |
23 April 1978 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–1 | |
28 October 1978 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–0 | |
25 April 1979 | 1 Mai | 1–0 | |
14 October 1981 | 1 Mai | 0–0 | |
17 April 1982 | Francisc von Neumann | 0–0 | |
18 September 1983 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–2 | Divizia B |
1 April 1984 | 1 Mai | 3–0 | |
16 November 1986 | 1 Mai | 4–2 | |
7 June 1987 | Francisc von Neumann | 0–2 | |
11 December 1988 | 1 Mai | 3–1 | |
12 March 1989 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–3 | |
11 September 1993 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–0 | Divizia A |
27 February 1994 | 1 Mai | 1–0 | |
6 September 1997 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–3 | Divizia B |
28 March 1998 | Dan Păltinișanu | 1–1 | |
5 September 1998 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–1 | |
7 April 1999 | Dan Păltinișanu | 1–2 | |
27 October 1999 | Francisc von Neumann | 1–0 | |
3 May 2000 | Dan Păltinișanu | 1–0 | |
18 October 2000 | Dan Păltinișanu | 0–1 | |
12 May 2001 | Francisc von Neumann | 0–0 | |
13 October 2001 | Dan Păltinișanu | 1–2 | |
11 May 2002 | Francisc von Neumann | 7–0 | |
5 October 2002 | Dan Păltinișanu | 3–4 | Divizia A |
16 April 2003 | Francisc von Neumann | 0–1 | |
18 November 2006 | Dan Păltinișanu | 2–0 | Liga I |
18 May 2007 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–1 | |
1 September 2007 | Francisc von Neumann | 2–3 | |
15 March 2008 | Dan Păltinișanu | 2–0 | |
23 August 2011 | Dan Păltinișanu | 1–1 (pen.) | Cupa României |
30 September 2011 | Francisc von Neumann | 0–0 | Liga II |
20 April 2012 | Dan Păltinișanu | 0–1 | |
13 November 2016 | Motorul | 1–1 |
References
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- ^ "UTA Bătrâna Doamnă se transformă în FC UTA Arad! - Special Arad". specialarad.ro. Retrieved 14 November 2016.
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