What's that got to do with the...?

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"What's that got to do with the – ?" is an expression denoting an irrelevance or non sequitur in the current discussion.

A common form "what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?", is a retort to an irrelevant suggestion.[1] This facetious usage implies that the topic under discussion might as well be the price of tea in China for all the relevance the speaker's suggestion bears on it. It has been said[by whom?] that this expression has stemmed from economists, who describe everything economic as affecting everything else, trying to find an expression which denotes the farthest logical connection from their current economic focus, in a sort of butterfly effect.[2] In this way, the price of tea in China was used to denote the farthest possibility. It can also be used to denote an irrelevant topic.

Another explanation of the phrase's origin is that in the 19th century the price for tea in England was the highest when the first ship with the newly harvested tea from the tightly controlled Chinese markets came in.[citation needed] So for the ship owners it was important to be as fast as possible back to England with the load, otherwise the cost of the passage might not be recovered from the sale of the tea. Thus there were real races (the tea clipper races) where the sail ships managed to travel the whole distance from China to England in about 80 to 90 days.

The difference in prices from the first load to the later ones was so high that the original price which was paid for the tea in China was quite unimportant. So the "price of tea in China" was something that really didn't matter for the ship owners. They had to have the tea in England as fast as possible.

A related expression in Hebrew can be found in a commentary on the Biblical commandment of the septennial sabbatical year. Leviticus 25:1 states that God spoke to Moses specifically on Mount Sinai, a rarity in the text. Accordingly, the commentary begins with the question "What is the connection between Shmita and Mount Sinai?" (?מה עניין שמיטה אצל הר סיני)[3] The question has since taken on a general meaning equivalent to that of the "price of tea in China" expression.

In popular culture[edit]

  • In Isaac Asimov's 1955 short story "Franchise", where the "election" process consists of Multivac questioning a single person to calculate the overall public opinion, it is mentioned that the only question the "voter" remembered from a three-hour-long interview was "what do you think of the price of eggs?"
  • "What has that got to do with the price of rice, right?" was used in the 1976 film, Network.
  • "What has that got to do with the price of butter?" Is commonly used in The Kingkiller Chronicle by Patrick Rothfuss.
  • "What's that got to do with the price of coffee?" was said by Derek Faye, an outrageously camp Catherine Tate Show character in a rant denying his homosexuality.
  • "What's that got to do with the price of meat in Muncie?" was said by Lori-Anne Schmidt in the show "Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt" to defend herself from people assuming her daughter was kidnapped because she wore a tube top.

References[edit]

  1. ^ Rees, Nigel (2001). Oops, Pardon, Mrs Arden!: An Embarrassment of Domestic Catch Phrases. Robson. pp. 214–5. ISBN 1-86105-440-8. 
  2. ^ "II. The Softening of the Hard Sciences". thewellspring.com. 
  3. ^ David Seidenberg. "Shmita: the purpose of Sinai" (PDF). neohasid.org. 

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