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MV Boka Star[edit]

There is an AfD discussion re the Boka Star article. This ship was found to be arms running in 2002, so could fall under the remit of this project. Mjroots (talk) 07:51, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Turns out she was a Yugoslav Navy auxiliary ship. Mjroots (talk) 22:29, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

US Military uniform cuff stars?[edit]

I was doing some reading and came across something about US military uniform accoutrements I've never heard of.

Wyllie, Col. Robert E. (1921). Orders, Decorations and Insignia: Military and Civil. New York and London: G.P. Putnam's Sons, the Knickerbocker Press. 

in chapter XI- Decoration of the Colours, page 208-9 Now for our American system, which has been entirely changed since the close of the World War. ... In addition we have followed the Belgian custom by embroidering on the [regimental] colour the names of battles in which the regiment so distinguished itself as to merit citation in War Department orders. ... In addition each officer and man in an organization which is cited in War Department orders wears a silver star on the cuff, a second star is added for a second citation. For a third citation the two silver stars are replaced by a gold star, etc., a gold star being used for every three citations, and a silver star for each intermediate one. This is purely a regimental decoration, and not in any sense personal, it is a part of the uniform of the organization and must be removed when the individual is transferred elsewhere..

Is this some sort of predeccessor to both the Silver Citation Star and unit awards? Anyone know anything more about this?

Gecko G (talk) 01:56, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Having disambiguation for GIGN article[edit]

Going to raise the point that Djibouti has a GIGN unit. Not sure on which jurisdiction it falls under. But I know that it likely falls under its gendarmerie branch, closely based on the French. There's not much English articles on this, so I'm using Marine Corp articles on it as a basis for its existence. Ominae (talk) 03:25, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

For the moment I would suggest expanding the Djiboutian National Gendarmerie article with a note. Once there's more data, the GIGN article could be modified to note that following the French example, GIGNs have been formed elsewhere. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Battle of the Bell islands[edit]

Can someone take a look at this page? Only has an infobox. Was there a battle of this name? Gbawden (talk) 09:12, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

I'd imagine that it relates to what's at Bell Island (Newfoundland and Labrador)#World War II in some way (though the mention of a Japanese officer who found in the Aleutians is confusing). But without any content the article should be deleted. Nick-D (talk) 10:05, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Even with the content from that page (I considered copy-pasting), IMO it fails notability. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 23:45, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
PROD it. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 05:26, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

PL-15 please[edit]

Can we get a PL-15 article please? Carlisle says outmatching the Chinese PL-15 air-to-air missile in particular is an “exceedingly high priority”.

Hcobb (talk) 00:04, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Operation Rah-e-Nijat[edit]

Operation Rah-e-Nijat is in need of updating. References 2, 3 and 4 are dead links (yahoo2, yahoo3, yahoo4). New references needed.--DThomsen8 (talk) 00:50, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

So what's stopping you?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:09, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Aircraft lists again[edit]

More discussion on the finer points of tabulated lists of aircraft for military operators here. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 04:46, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

RfC about the Duke of Windsor (Edward VIII) article[edit]

There arose a dispute about the proper extent of the Duke of Windsor's wartime activities in regards the German Nazi regime. An editor feels that the pro-Nazi sympathies and activities, including one act of treason, is not reflected with the appropriate due weight in the article, and believes that the insertion of an extract of a German embassy cable should be added, as a footnote. Another editor feels that quoting the entire text of the cable is overkill, and that overall the article is consistent with the views that are presented in scholarly discourse and presents them with due weight and cites them to reliable sources. The question is now being put forth to Wikipedia editors whether to Support the addition of the contested material in a footnote or Oppose it. Anyone interested to participate in the relevant RfC is welcome. -The Gnome (talk) 14:08, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Titanic (1943 film)[edit]

This article, about the flop propaganda "blockbuster" commissioned by Nazi Germany's Josef Goebbels, has just been through a pretty nasty patch of edit warring, which included personal attacks and the use of sock IPs. The editor responsible has been blocked fo 2 weeks, but it might be a good idea if folks were to add it to their watchlists to make sure things don't start up again when the block is over. BMK (talk) 23:19, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

AfC submission - 26/11/15[edit]

See Draft:Maxwell K. Goldstein. Thank you, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 02:37, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Harper Encyclopedia of Military Biography[edit]

I couldn't figure out if there was a place at the open tasks sections but an editor created User:MadMax/list to have a list of biographies missing from Trevor N. Dupuy's The Harper Encyclopedia of Military Biography. Is there an interest in have this list and/or moving it? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

G'day, potentially some of the requests could be added here, maybe: Template:WPMILHIST Announcements/Military biography. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 00:21, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
At a quick glance, many of the red links in MadMax's list do have corresponding WP articles, but not under those exact names, e.g. "Sir Douglas Robert Steuart Bader" => Douglas Bader which I just corrected along with four or five other B's. Stanning (talk) 08:49, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Well the initial question is, would there be any objection to moving it and the subpages to say Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Harper or something? From there, would the project be interested in keeping it going (even if it's just copying to the lists with a note that Harper has it)? I'd just prefer someone's eyes on it so that the details aren't lost. If not, I'll review and incorporate the listings here when I get a chance. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
If we're going to move it, I'd suggest placing it under the military biography task force (so e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Military/Harper). Kirill Lokshin (talk) 13:00, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

WP:BOTREQ#Pinging when a "task" section is edited[edit]

This bot request may be of interest to anyone who regularly checks one small section of a busy page. Volunteer coders who are interested get my undying gratitude ... actually, a lot of Wikipedians will probably love you for this. - Dank (push to talk) 16:04, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Request ID help for armored vehicle[edit]

Us ord museum 008.JPG

Can anyone identify the vehicle shown in this photo? Ran across it while moving unused photos over to Commons and I haven't been able to figure out what it is. Kelly hi! 08:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

M42 Duster regards Mztourist (talk) 08:39, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Citations outside brackets[edit]

Does anyone have a link for the style guide for this practice please? Thanks Keith-264 (talk) 21:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

There's this, but that's pretty short and simply lists it as an acceptable method (and links to the template to use to do it). What exactly are you looking for? Parsecboy (talk) 21:28, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
HMS Ben-my-Chree I moved the cite on line 1 outside the bracket but someone objected. I decided to check my facts and couldn't find them....Keith-264 (talk) 21:32, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Ahh, I misunderstood. This is what you're looking for, and actually, the cite should be inside the bracket. Parsecboy (talk) 21:40, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
Oh bugger! It looks horrible. Keith-264 (talk) 21:53, 30 November 2015 (UTC)