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  • Violations of other restrictions, like WP:1RR violations, may also be brought here. Your report should include two reverts that occurred within a 24-hour period, and a link to where the 1RR restriction was imposed.

Definition of edit warring
Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different than a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of the this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

User:El cid, el campeador reported by User:Vice regent (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Page: 2017 Manchester Arena bombing (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: El cid, el campeador (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)


The user El cid, el campeador (ECEC) has made 4 reverts in 3 hours involving 2 different sets of material.

First set of 2 reverts:

ECEC removes the following: 'Political columnist Katie Hopkins was accused of calling for ethnic cleansing of the UK's Muslim population in a tweet after the explosion, asking for a "final solution".'

1. [1]
2. [2]

Discussion on the topic on the talk page: [3]

Second set of 2 reverts:

ECEC removes the following: 'The Muslim Council of Britain strongly condemned the attack.'

3. [4] This revert was accompanied by an inflammatory summary.
4. [5]

Discussion on the topic: [6]

A 5th revert:

5. [7]

The above is a revert of another users edit:[8]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [9]

Comments:
Note the 3RR warning was made after all 5 of the above reverts. I'm not completely sure if ECEC was aware of the 3RR rule. Nevertheless ECEC's response is somewhat uncooperative. I'd take back this report if ECEC apologizes and commits to not violate wp:3RR again. VR talk 15:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC) The final revert was reverting vandalism. I don't think it makes sense to punish people for that. But I didn't realize this was a rule. There was no bad faith, I was just reaffirming edits I made and other people reverted. It was a current event and edits were moving very fast. I'll apologize for not understanding/following the rules.El cid, el campeador (talk) 17:24, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

User:ViperSnake151 reported by User:Charlesaaronthompson (Result: No violation)[edit]

Page: Vegas Golden Knights (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: ViperSnake151 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)


Previous version reverted to: diff


Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. diff
  2. diff
  3. diff
  4. diff


Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]


Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Comments:

I would close for no valid reason. — JJBers 16:56, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Synchronist reported by User:Alsee (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Page: KIC 8462852 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Synchronist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)


Previous version reverted to: [10]


Relevant Diffs, including content reverts:

  1. 20:44, 22 May 2017‎: [11] Synchronist adds their own fringe theory of aliens building a "communication beacon". They cite themselves as the source, citing an email they acknowledge as their own.[12]
  2. 21:23, 22 May 2017‎: [13] Synchronist adds it a second time.
  3. 23:50, 22 May 2017: [14] Synchronist adds it a third time.
  4. 00:55, 23 May 2017 - 04:54, 23 May 2017: [15] Synchronist is warned that that using Wikipedia for self-promotion, which includes ones own theories, is something that is very much frowned upon. As well as Wikipedia policy only allows 3 reverts per user per article per 24 hours. I have expended all three of mine in that article, so if the content reappears, I won't be able to do anything else about it. Synchronist will later interpret this as "permission to re-post".[16]
  5. 05:10, 23 May 2017: [17] Synchronist adds it a fourth time.
  6. 06:16, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on KIC 8462852. (TW)"
  7. 13:50, 23 May 2017: [18] Synchronist is aware of, and responds to, the Talk page discussion. Synchronist is now explicitly aware that five people on the talk page are unanimously opposed to the edit. It is explained why the edit is unacceptable, and they are explicitly warning yet again Editing against consensus is disruptive and may lead to being blocked from editing. They are strongly advised to seek support on the talk page before trying to add it again.
  8. 17:03, 23 May 2017: [19] Synchronist proceeds to add their own fringe theory of aliens building a "communication beacon" a fifth time, still citing themself as the source.


Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: As cited above, they received multiple notice about edit warring.


Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Cited above.

Comments:
This page relates to significant breaking news. It has spiked to 13k pageviews per day.

In talk page comments, Synchronist has asserted that "speculation is not at all out of place in this article". They have made it clear that they believe they are entitled to bend "traditional rules governing [this] encyclopedias" because their aliens theory is of such importance and because they are an "expert (if such can be considered to exist in this field) when it comes to the strategies which an alien civilization would employ".

A block is needed to prevent their zeal from resulting in further disruption to an extremely high profile article. Hopefully a clue-block will help them return with an understanding that this encyclopedia is edited in a collaborative manner. Alsee (talk) 18:31, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Notified: [20]. VQuakr (talk) 18:48, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Blocked – 48 hours. If the user continues to add their own theory to the article (against the advice of the other editors) a longer block should be considered. EdJohnston (talk) 21:29, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Esnertofidel reported by User:MrX (Result: Blocked)[edit]

Page
2017 Manchester Arena bombing (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
Esnertofidel (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 20:29, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "The consensus reached is readily available for examination on the talk page under the header "Katie Hopkins". Re-open the discussion before arbitrarily overturning it."
  2. 20:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "Reverted arbitrary deletion of content established as relevant by consensus."
  3. 20:08, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "This has been discussed. Consensus was it stays due to direct relevancy to article subject, and ample sourcing by secondary source material."
  4. 19:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "Revert per consensus on talk page."
  5. 14:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "Revert. See consensus on the talk page."
  6. 14:21, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "This is being reported on by several mainstream media outlets, who link it explicitly to the incident."
  7. 12:36, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "journalist owen jones explicitly referred to it as such - entry is directly relevant and well-sourced"
  8. 12:30, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "added huffington post citation: incident is directly relevant to article subject and actively being reported on by numerous mainstream media outlets"
  9. 12:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "-rv - neither BLP nor OR, directly relevant to article subject, cited by multiple secondary source materials."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
  1. 12:38, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
  1. 12:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "/* Katie Hopkins */ comment"
Comments:

This is ridiculous. I warned this user about 3RR and edit warring at 12:38, when s/he had already reverted removals of this material once, twice, three times. Consensus at Talk:2017_Manchester_Arena_bombing#Katie_Hopkins is against this material being in, yet Esnertofidel has sailed way, way over 3RR in trying to keep it in. (edit: Mr X has now added these first 3 reverts to the list of 9 - 9!! - reverts above. By the way, the first three reverts had no source for the allegation of Hopkins desiring "ethnic cleansing", which was why I twice removed the claim per BLP but Esnertofidel still reverted me.) BencherliteTalk 21:01, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Blocked – 48 hours. EdJohnston (talk) 21:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Charles lindberg reported by User:Moxy (Result: No violation)[edit]

Page
Bloc Québécois (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
Charles lindberg (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 00:25, 24 May 2017 (UTC) "Ugh, removed the words Quebec seats since there are not 338 Quebec seats in the House of Commons"
  2. 23:37, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "rv removal of the words "Quebec seats" to highlight that the 24 seats shown on the graph are those from Quebec, not all of Canada."
  3. Consecutive edits made from 15:03, 23 May 2017 (UTC) to 15:04, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
    1. 15:03, 23 May 2017 (UTC) "Undid revision 780933548 by GoodDay (talk) That's not a rule, and it's misleading. See Scottish National Party."
    2. 15:04, 23 May 2017 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
As seen on users talk page many waringa about edit waring and lack of willingness to talk.
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
Editor is talking at WP:Canada...but just keeps implementing their preferd version.
Comments:

In general we have been having a problem with this editor and reverting all over. ALSO NOTE editor has already been block for this type of problem.....time for a longer block. ...get the point across. Moxy (talk) 02:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

The edits to the Bloc Quebecois was a misunderstanding with User:GoodDay, if you go to his talk page you can see he didn't actually realize I was simply reverting back to his own version. The problem has since been resolved. This can easily be seen by going through the edit history of the Bloc article and seeing what content I was actually reverting, I was not in an edit war even though at first it appeared that way, just a misunderstanding. Charles lindberg (talk) 05:58, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting x.svg No violation. You need four reverts to violate 3RR. That said, please stop edit warring and take it to the article talk page. El_C 06:08, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Ryubyss reported by User:Geogene (Result: 24 hours)[edit]

Page: Murder of Seth Rich (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ryubyss (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)


Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]


Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [21]
  2. [22]
  3. [diff]
  4. [diff]


Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]


Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [23] [24] [25] Reporting a 1RR violation. See the banner on the talk page.

  • Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Blocked – for a period of 24 hours. El_C 06:11, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

User:YSSYguy reported by User:Marc Lacoste (Result: Both blocked)[edit]

Page: Cessna 208 Caravan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: YSSYguy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)


Previous version reverted to: [26]


Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [27]
  2. [28]
  3. [29]
  4. [30]


Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [31]


Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [32]

  • Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Both editors blocked – for a period of 24 hours.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:02, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

User:194.135.162.163 reported by User:Wesley Wolf (Result: No violation)[edit]

Page
Armenia–Azerbaijan relations in the Eurovision Song Contest (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
194.135.162.163 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. Consecutive edits made from 00:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC) to 00:46, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
    1. 00:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "/* Postcard controversy and aftermath */"
    2. 00:41, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "/* Censorship, interrogation of voters */"
    3. 00:42, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "/* Censorship, interrogation of voters */"
    4. 00:45, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "/* 2012 contest */"
    5. 00:46, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "/* 2012 contest */"
  2. Consecutive edits made from 00:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC) to 00:30, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
    1. 00:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC) ""
    2. 00:30, 25 May 2017 (UTC) ""
  3. 00:25, 25 May 2017 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
  1. 00:30, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "General note: Unconstructive editing on Armenia–Azerbaijan relations in the Eurovision Song Contest. (TW)"
  2. 00:59, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Armenia–Azerbaijan relations in the Eurovision Song Contest. (TW)"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


Comments:

IP has added and removed content, to cause controversial issues relating to the two countries. Possible WP:ARBAA related vandalism. Wes Wolf Talk 01:01, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting x.svg No violation. You need four reverts to violate 3RR—let me know if edit warring persists, though. El_C 04:50, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Amberwaves reported by User:Gamesmasterg9 (Result: 24 hours, both)[edit]

Page: Greg Gianforte (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Amberwaves (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)


Previous version reverted to: [33]


Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. [34]
  2. [35]
  3. [36]
  4. [37]
  5. [38]
  6. [39]
  7. [40]


Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]


Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Comments:

For what it's worth, I think each of those edits are reasonable on their own. There is a discussion on the talk page regarding the language for most of those and Amberwaves is right in demanding RS for the particular wording that other users keep adding. Amberwaves definitely violates 3RR but that could just be because the user is unaware of the rule. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 02:27, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Note that current edit-warring over the last couple of hours on the Greg Gianforte article has been fueled by three editors: Gamesmasterg9 (13 edits), PerfectlyIrrational (29 edits) and Amberwaves (32 edits). Suggest a cool-down block for all three. — JFG talk 03:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
As an editor involved, I'll state my case. User:Amberwaves asked me and other editors to go on the talk page to reach a consensus on the matter, and the vast majority agreed that the incident should be included in the header. He proceeded to ignore the findings, and begun to revert multiple sentences with extensive citations of it. Whatever the case, we've reached a compromise proposal and are not planning on continuing the conflict. If you want to know more about the incident and what occurred, asked me. That being said, I think that he was showing good faith and personally asked for his behavior not to be punished. PerfectlyIrrational (talk) 03:08, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Both editors blocked – for a period of 24 hours. El_C 04:46, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Amberwaves reported by User:Mk17b (Result: 24 hours, above)[edit]

Page: Greg Gianforte (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Amberwaves (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)


Previous version reverted to: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greg_Gianforte&diff=782116039&oldid=782115941


Diffs of the user's reverts:

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greg_Gianforte&diff=prev&oldid=782125886
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greg_Gianforte&diff=prev&oldid=782125648
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greg_Gianforte&diff=prev&oldid=782125541


Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Greg_Gianforte&diff=782126025&oldid=782124284

Comments:
Continuously trying to discuss on talk page. Continuously preemptively removes mention of audio recording even after well sourced including by the NY Times as the editor insisted. | MK17b | (talk) 02:21, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

You haven't provided any sources that actually say the audio supports Jacobs. Is this the biography of a living person? Or do we get to make stuff up?Amberwaves (talk) 02:24, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
I provided a NYT ref that clearly states that the campaign statement is "at odds with Mr. Jacobs’s recording". | MK17b | (talk) 02:29, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Stop x nuvola with clock.svg Blocked – for a period of 24 hours. See above. El_C 04:48, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

User:71.246.96.210 reported by User:Daniel0wellby (Result: No violation)[edit]

Page
User talk:71.246.96.210 (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported
71.246.96.210 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to
Diffs of the user's reverts
  1. 17:07, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "stop harassing my talk page, like a psychotic meat-puppet......thanks"
  2. 17:05, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "removing meat-puppet nonsense from my talk page......"
  3. 16:30, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "please stop putting junk on my talk page...and stop suppressing sourced, in-the-news, and sky-blue information because you "don't like"...and stop the neurotic edit-warring...."
  4. 16:26, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "Blanked the page"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
  1. 17:06, 25 May 2017 (UTC) "Undid revision 782226064 by 71.246.96.210 (talk)"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


Comments:
This editor Daniel keeps harassing my talk page, and pasting the same thing on it that I keep removing. He's being a meat-puppet for the other editor MrX. So the blunt words in this context are arguably warranted. He's WAY out of line, and a clear trouble-maker and edit-warrior and a clear liar. MrX said I "plastered the article with ISIL" stuff, when I never said the word "ISIL" anywhere in the article, nor did I even actually edit the article much at all, in general. I simply restored his suppressive removal of "Islamic terrorism in Europe" link from the info box. He seems to think that this thing in Manchester is not proven to be "Islamic terrorism" or something, and is "not sourced", even though it's very sourced, in all of the press, left, right, and center. And then this Danielowellby person (not sure if he's a sock puppet or meat puppet for MrX, but he's definitely out of order and is some kind of tag-team editor-warrior, and harassing my talk page nonstop, with rude nonsense), keeps doing this too. Daniel says I was doing an "unconstructive edit" but never explained just how. So what exactly was an "unconstructive edit"? My restoring an unwarranted and unreasonable removal of sourced and sky-blue information, that the other editor kept doing? Please don't put impertinent meat-puppet junk on my talk page. This editor, MrX, is clearly violating Wikipedia policy against "I don't like" by suppressing copiously sourced and well-known and well-established (and sky-blue) information. With edit-warring, and also harassing my Talk page. Also, I never said "ISIL" anywhere, so that's a lie or sloppy misrepresentation...but simply restored his removal of the "Islamic terrorism in Europe" link in the info box. 71.246.96.210 (talk) 17:11, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting x.svg No violation. The IP is entitled to remove warnings from their Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:17, 25 May 2017 (UTC)