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1890s Depression[edit]

One thing I keep noticing as we roll out the NSW Heritage Register project is that we've never had a proper article on the 1890s Depression, even though it's really quite important in that part of Australian history. Australian banking crisis of 1893 covers only a specific, limited part of it, and that's really all we have. Would anyone be interested in taking a crack at creating an article? The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:09, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

ANU Library flood appeal[edit]

The Australian National University Library is currently running an appeal for book donations to replace works destroyed when the bottom floor of its main library building was flooded earlier this year. This wiped out much of the ANU's humanities collections, including its large Australian history and political science sections. If you're interested in donating books to replace the losses, the ANU has set up a website here which lists the works they're looking to replace and provides a way to register your willingness to offer them. Nick-D (talk) 11:40, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Gah, I hadn't heard about this. Such a shame - I spent a lot of time working on Wikipedia down there. The Drover's Wife (talk) 11:50, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Coordinate template help[edit]

Can someone please help me with these? I've never been able to use this aspect of Template:Infobox Australian place because the template balks at the input of coordinates in any format that's actually used in Australian gazetted sources. I'd really love to know how I can actually convert the official sources into whatever the heck Wikipedia does with it. The Drover's Wife (talk) 04:21, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

CessnockNew South Wales
Millfield is located in New South Wales
Coordinates 32°52′54″S 151°16′04″E / 32.88167°S 151.26778°E / -32.88167; 151.26778Coordinates: 32°52′54″S 151°16′04″E / 32.88167°S 151.26778°E / -32.88167; 151.26778
It used to be a lot easier when the bare coordinates could simply be plugged into the right fields in the infobox and the infobox worked out the rest but it's not really that difficult. There are a few variations of the format now. All are basically the same:
  • |coordinates={{coord|latitude|S|longitude|E|display=inline,title}}
The actual format depends on the input and precision:
  • |coordinates={{coord|dd|mm|ss|S|ddd|mm|ss|E|display=inline,title}}
  • |coordinates={{coord|dd|mm|ss.s|S|ddd|mm|ss.s|E|display=inline,title}}
  • |coordinates={{coord|dd.dddd|S|ddd.dddd|E|display=inline,title}}
For example, from the Geographical Names Register of NSW we get that the coordinates of Millfield, New South Wales are -32 52 54 latitude (the minus indicates south) and 151 16 04 longitude (no sign indicates east).[1] The format used for the coordinates field is therefore:
  • |coordinates={{coord|32|52|54|S|151|16|04|E|display=inline,title}} --AussieLegend () 05:54, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, thank you! I was so stuck and getting frustrated. The Drover's Wife (talk) 06:25, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Flag of Australia[edit]

Flag of Australia is becoming an image farm with far too many "At ... an Australian flag was flown ..... on ...." entries, rather than actual encyclopaedic content about the flag being added. Since 10 June the article has increased increased significantly in size but most of is it examples of how the flag has been flown. Some extra eyes on this article would be appreciated. --AussieLegend () 10:03, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

The editor involved has only been registered since March. His contributions history show somewhat of an obsession with the flag. I have tried to communicate with him about his approach, to no avail. Just today I thought one option was to wait a bit until he had a break, then tackle the article as a whole, with a big pruning tool. I also suggested to him that he get involved in other topics so he could see more about how Wikipedia works. That didn't work either. HiLo48 (talk) 10:21, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
NOTE: This editor has a new major target (along with all his other flag related articles) - Australian Red Ensign. Around 30 edits since yesterday. He has massive knowledge in this area, but very little idea about what constitutes a good Wikipedia article. HiLo48 (talk) 23:02, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
which in itself can be very disruptive, and WP:SPA accounts require care for third or fourth opnions - or uninvokved admins to keep very close watch.JarrahTree 00:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Its a little pointy and very militaristic, such edits appear to potentially be for some external agenda. I think it would be best to start pruning the number of images to those which only compliment knowledge within the article removing any that are merely decorative. Gnangarra 02:58, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Per Gnangarra's suggestion, I removed a number of images and there were edits by 4 other editors today, but some of the images have been restored.[2] The one of HMCS Protector has a really tiny flag flying off the stern. It serves no real purpose but it was one that was restored. Even an image gallery came back,[3] despite a note on the editor's talk page. --AussieLegend () 08:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Righto, for a fascinating insight into what we're dealing with here, do have a look at Talk:Australian Flag Society#There' are big holes in this article, particularly the final post. It's remarkable. HiLo48 (talk) 11:17, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Those articles have got so bad now, that its time to walk away the WP:SPA now owns all Australian flag articles. I honestly hate logging in too see how much more damage has been done and nobody seams to care, if it ever goes to an RFC or ANI ping me Gnangarra 11:29, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

He just doesn't seem to get that it's an article about the flag of Australia, not every flag. RV to last stable version seems a good edit summary. --AussieLegend () 13:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
By "stable version" do you mean before that editor turned up? HiLo48 (talk) 22:05, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Maybe not that far but close to it. Much of what has been added is almost fancruft. --AussieLegend () 08:45, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
That said, having had a look at the other articles he is editing, as well as the non-free files he is now uploading to commons. I'm tempted to be VERY agressive in changes to the articles. He just seems to be attempting to add as many flags as he can to every flag article that he can. Flags of the Australian Defence Force, for example, even has royal flags in it now. --AussieLegend () 11:11, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
I wasn't being entirely facetious when I suggested reverting all the articles to the state they were in before he turned up. Have a look at his Talk page. This guy is motivated by a desire to increase the loyalty of Australians in preparation for the coming World War III, and the relationship of this with the (also coming) End Days. I have found it impossible to have rational conversations with him on article Talk pages or on his own Talk page. I'm not sure if this canned be termed a form of incompetence to edit here, but he is not here to build a great encyclopaedia. HiLo48 (talk) 11:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

And now he's suggesting that we move Flags of the Australian Defence Force to Flags of the Anzac tradition instead of fixing the mess that is the current article. ---AussieLegend () 07:27, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Melbourne July meetup[edit]

Reminder note: The next Melbourne meetup is on 8th of July (Sunday) in Fed Square. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 11:58, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

File:Flag of the Torres Strait Islanders.svg[edit]

An editor has questioned whether or not File:Flag of the Torres Strait Islanders.svg is non-free. Please participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 July 12#File:Flag of the Torres Strait Islanders.svg. There is also a related discussion at c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Torres Strait Islander.png. --AussieLegend () 22:52, 12 July 2018 (UTC)