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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
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Scope[edit]
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions[edit]
Discussions awaiting closure[edit]
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 11 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 10 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 9 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 8 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 7 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 6 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 1 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 October 31 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 October 26 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 October 23 (1 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD[edit]
Nomination procedure[edit]
Twinkle[edit]
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Nominate for deletion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
Manual nominations[edit]
| I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
| II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types[edit]
| I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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| II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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| III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update TemplateName, ProposedName and Reason): For ==== Template:TemplateName ====
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lt|TemplateName}}
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Reason. ~~~~
For ==== Template:TemplateName ==== :* '''Propose renaming''' [[Template:TemplateName]] to [[Template:ProposedName]] :'''Nominator's rationale:''' Reason. ~~~~
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Notifying interested projects and editors[edit]
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd-notify|Category name|2018 November 19|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd-notify}} to inform the category's creator and {{Cfdnotice2}} for all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.
Closing procedure[edit]
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories[edit]
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}} to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criteria, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criteria applies
- Tag category with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} - List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criterias strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to continue the process, it may be requested regularly at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes[edit]
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices[edit]
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names[edit]
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name[edit]
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is unambiguous, and uncontroversial – either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). If the page names are controversial or ambiguous in any way, then this criterion does not apply, even if an article is the primary topic of its name.
- This criterion also does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or if there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result.
C2E: Author request[edit]
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
Admin instructions[edit]
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there are no oppositions to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing the opposition(s).
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed - follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is Delete, Merge, or Rename"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions[edit]
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
This will sign and datestamp an entry automatically.
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 01:18, 17 November 2018 (UTC). Currently, there are 125 open requests ().
| Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here! Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests[edit]
- Category:United Nations Under-Secretaries-General to Category:Under-Secretaries-General of the United Nations – per article Under-Secretary-General of the United Nations Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:13, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:United Nations Secretaries-General to Category:Secretaries-General of the United Nations – per article Secretary-General of the United Nations Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:11, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:United Nations Deputy Secretaries-General to Category:Deputy Secretaries-General of the United Nations – per article Deputy Secretary-General of the United Nations Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:09, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Sports organisations by year of disestablishment to Category:Sports organizations by year of disestablishment – C2C: Per parents Category:Sports organizations by date of disestablishment, Category:Organizations by year of disestablishment, Category:Defunct sport organizations. Oculi (talk) 21:42, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Sports organisations by century of disestablishment to Category:Sports organizations by century of disestablishment
- Category:Sports organisations by decade of disestablishment to Category:Sports organizations by decade of disestablishment
- Category:Sports organisations disestablished in 2018 to Category:Sports organizations disestablished in 2018
- Category:Sports organisations disestablished in the 2010s to Category:Sports organizations disestablished in the 2010s
- Category:Sports organisations disestablished in the 21st century to Category:Sports organizations disestablished in the 21st century
- Category:Labour relations to Category:Labor relations – C2D: Per article Labor relations (Labour relations has always been a redirect). Oculi (talk) 12:08, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Russian techno to Category:Russian techno musicians – C2C: See Category:Techno musicians by nationality. Flooded with them hundreds 08:52, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Agree (over redirect), as this appears to have been the result of an out-of-process move. After renaming, remove this category from Category:Russian styles of music. -- Black Falcon (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:People educated at St Jarlath's College, Tuam to Category:People educated at St Jarlath's College – C2D per St Jarlath's College. 2001:BB6:AA0:A458:91A4:18F4:C714:D746 (talk) 03:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:People educated at Coláiste Chríost Rí, Cork to Category:People educated at Coláiste Chríost Rí – C2D per Coláiste Chríost Rí. 2001:BB6:AA0:A458:91A4:18F4:C714:D746 (talk) 03:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Defunct transport organisations to Category:Defunct transport organizations – C2C: Per parents Category:Transport organizations and Category:Defunct organizations. Oculi (talk) 21:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Labour relations organisations to Category:Labor relations organizations – C2C: Per parent Category:Labor-related organizations. Oculi (talk) 21:34, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hmm... - It looks a bit odd to my eyes to see "labour" (BrEng spelling) and "organizations" (AmEng spelling) in the same title. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've changed it to 'labor' which also follows from the parent. Oculi (talk) 23:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- But now it's not aligned with Category:Labour relations... maybe that category should be renamed given the main article is Labor relations. -- Black Falcon (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- OK. The change from Category:Labor relations seems to have been an out-of-process redirection. Speedy nominated above. Oculi (talk) 12:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- But now it's not aligned with Category:Labour relations... maybe that category should be renamed given the main article is Labor relations. -- Black Falcon (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- I've changed it to 'labor' which also follows from the parent. Oculi (talk) 23:59, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hmm... - It looks a bit odd to my eyes to see "labour" (BrEng spelling) and "organizations" (AmEng spelling) in the same title. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Women's sports organisations to Category:Women's sports organizations – C2C: Per parents Category:Women's organizations and Category:Sports organizations, Oculi (talk) 20:21, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Transport in Caerphilly (town) to Category:Transport in Caerphilly – C2C per Category:Caerphilly/Caerphilly, there are no other uses of Caerphilly, other than the cheese and thing associated with the town. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:19, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Buildings and structures in Caerphilly County Borough – C2C per Caerphilly County Borough/Category:Caerphilly County Borough, related articles like Grade I listed buildings in Caerphilly County Borough and the Commons categories. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Castles in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Castles in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Listed buildings in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Listed buildings in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Grade I listed buildings in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Grade I listed buildings in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Grade II* listed buildings in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Grade II* listed buildings in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Grade II listed buildings in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Grade II listed buildings in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Museums in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Museums in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Schools in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Schools in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Primary schools in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Primary schools in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Secondary schools in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Secondary schools in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Education in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Education in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Communities in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Communities in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Towns in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Towns in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Villages in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Villages in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Sport in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Sport in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Tourist attractions in Caerphilly county borough to Category:Tourist attractions in Caerphilly County Borough
- Category:Dukes of Swedish Provinces to Category:Dukes of Swedish provinces – WP:C2D: provinces of Sweden (a noun). Chicbyaccident (talk) 15:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Chicbyaccident: This could only be C2D if the target was Category:Dukes of provinces of Sweden. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:52, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think Category:Dukes of provinces of Sweden is preferable, C2B per Category:Provinces of Sweden. -- Black Falcon (talk) 23:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Chicbyaccident: This could only be C2D if the target was Category:Dukes of provinces of Sweden. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:52, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Brescia Calcio Femminile players to Category:A.C.F. Brescia Calcio Femminile players – Merge per C2D: Consistency with main article's name Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 15:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Wenlock to Category:Wenlock (Silurian) – C2D per Wenlock (Silurian), Wenlock is ambiguous and there is also Category:Much Wenlock so it should become a {{Category ambiguous}}. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Council of State of Ireland to Category:Members of the Council of State (Ireland) – C2C and C2D per Council of State (Ireland) and Category:Council of State (Ireland). 2001:BB6:A9F:9D58:AC0E:53CF:3D57:E520 (talk) 03:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Logos of companies in Albania to Category:Albanian company logos – C2C: per convention of Category:Company logos by country. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Quartermaster Generals of New Jersey to Category:Quartermasters General of New Jersey – C2A, correct plural of Quartermaster General of New Jersey, cf. sibling Category:Quartermasters General of the United States Army. – Fayenatic London 22:50, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Chancellors General (Cossack Hetmanate) to Category:Chancellors General of the Cossack Hetmanate – C2B, standard naming, e.g. parent Category:Officials of the Cossack Hetmanate. – Fayenatic London 22:11, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Officials of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth to Category:Government officials of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth – C2C per the convention in Category:Government officials by nationality. – Fayenatic London 22:04, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:UNESCO Goodwill ambassadors to Category:UNESCO Goodwill Ambassadors – C2A per UNESCO Goodwill Ambassador Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:45, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Pro Challenge Series to Category:Challenge Tour (snooker) – C2D per Challenge Tour (snooker). Tagged by anon but not listed until now. – Fayenatic London 21:38, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose due to lack of reliable sources that say the two are the same thing. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:UNICEF ambassadors to Category:UNICEF Goodwill Ambassadors – per List of UNICEF Goodwill Ambassadors Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:IPC Swimming European Championships to Category:World Para Swimming European Championships – C2D per World Para Swimming European Championships. Tagged in October by an IP, but not listed until now. – Armbrust The Homunculus 19:25, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:American Cup editions to Category:American Cup (gymnastics) – C2D per American Cup (gymnastics). Tagged but not listed until now. – Fayenatic London 18:56, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:National teams navigational boxes to Category:National sports team navigational boxes – C2C: per Category:National sports teams. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:39, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: Suggest Category:National sports team navigational boxes, per the convention of Category:Sports team navigational boxes. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Black Falcon: thanks. Good suggestion. I have changed "teams" → "team". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:40, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: Suggest Category:National sports team navigational boxes, per the convention of Category:Sports team navigational boxes. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Emergency organisations to Category:Emergency organizations – C2C. Sub cat of Category:Humanitarian aid organizations Rathfelder (talk) 13:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- ALT - This may require a full CfD, but I think Category:Emergency management organizations or Category:Emergency services organizations would be a more apt title. -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:28, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- We already have Category:Emergency services, which is full of Emergency services organizations. This category is for a rather different sort of organisation - mostly non-governmental and mobile. Rathfelder (talk) 22:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- ALT - This may require a full CfD, but I think Category:Emergency management organizations or Category:Emergency services organizations would be a more apt title. -- Black Falcon (talk) 21:28, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Opposed requests[edit]
- Category:Beer organisations to Category:Beer organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:58, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Tropical medicine organisations to Category:Tropical medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Transplant organisations to Category:Transplant organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:54, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Toxicology organisations to Category:Toxicology organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:53, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Sports medicine organisations to Category:Sports medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:52, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Sleep medicine organisations to Category:Sleep medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:51, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Rheumatology organisations to Category:Rheumatology organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:51, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Rehabilitation medicine organisations to Category:Rehabilitation medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:50, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Otorhinolaryngology organisations to Category:Otorhinolaryngology organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:50, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Nuclear medicine organisations to Category:Nuclear medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:49, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Intensive care organisations to Category:Intensive care organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Infectious disease organisations to Category:Infectious disease organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Emergency medicine organisations to Category:Emergency medicine organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:47, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Gerontology organisations to Category:Gerontology organizations – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 18:45, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose all these organisations. @Rathfelder: C2C not applicable unless there is a clear convention somewhere, and you don't identify one. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Do I need to specify that they are (mostly) subcats of Category:Medical and health organizations by medical specialty? Rathfelder (talk) 20:01, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose all these organisations. @Rathfelder: C2C not applicable unless there is a clear convention somewhere, and you don't identify one. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:37, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:British television channels by genre to Category:British television channels by content – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 17:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There is no established category tree for the proposed name. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:35, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Drugs with unknown chemical structures to Category:Drugs with undisclosed chemical structures – Researchers/developers of these drugs know the chemical structures. They just haven't disclosed that information publicly. -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:22, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy because none of the criteria applies to this proposal. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:42, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:House music songs to Category:House songs – C2C. Flooded with them hundreds 19:06, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is House music, and it's also a subcategory of Category:House music. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:37, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- Armbrust "Songs" makes it clear the category is about music, in which there are no other "house" topics other than derivatives of the genre so keeping the word "music" is redundant. Flooded with them hundreds 15:20, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Flooded with them hundreds: Doesn't matter. Categories generally follow the main article and the top category (and in this case they both have music in the title). Armbrust The Homunculus 22:03, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Armbrust "Songs" makes it clear the category is about music, in which there are no other "house" topics other than derivatives of the genre so keeping the word "music" is redundant. Flooded with them hundreds 15:20, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is House music, and it's also a subcategory of Category:House music. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:37, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- Upmerge Category:2019 Pan American Games events to Category:Events at the 2019 Pan American Games and Category:Pan American Games events by year to Category:Events at the Pan American Games per C2C Hugo999 (talk) 03:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hugo999 Oppose dropping " by year" from the second category. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:06, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Will settle for the first category only Hugo999 (talk) 12:49, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hugo999 Or the second could be renamed to Category:Events at the Pan American Games by year. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:04, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Will settle for the first category only Hugo999 (talk) 12:49, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. The discussion shows that there isn't a clear convention to apply, so it's not a C2C speedy. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:11, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Hugo999 Oppose dropping " by year" from the second category. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:06, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Swaziland to Category:WikiProject Eswatini – C2D. Hddty. (talk) 01:28, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Swaziland articles to Category:WikiProject Eswatini articles – C2D. Hddty. (talk) 01:29, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. @Hddty.: There was a WP:RM discussion at Talk:Eswatini which agreed to rename the head article. However, I see no discussion on renaming the WikiProject. That seems to have been a WP:BOLD move by you. Please hold off further moves until there is a consensus to rename the WikiProject. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think this move is not controversial. This WikiProject is not active anyway. Hddty. (talk) 10:39, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Hddty.: No need to "think" whether this move is controversial. Just ask. So propose the move at the project page, giving say 7 days, and proceed if there are no sustained objections. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:09, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: It's important to think whether the move is controversial or not because, per WP:RM, if the move is uncontroversial, just move it and if the move is controversial, just add
{{subst:RMassist|...}}at the talk page; there's no option to add notice if the move is uncontroversial. This move is uncontroversial because it doesn't satisfy three criteria at WP:RM#CM. Hddty. (talk) 13:14, 8 November 2018 (UTC)- @Hddty.: Criterion #3 is "Someone could reasonably disagree with the move". That applies here. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: I don't think there is a reasonable argument against this move. While we're at it, just see whether other editors in this page support or oppose this move, rather than on the WikiProject talk page because it seems that the project is inactive. Hddty. (talk) 14:16, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Hddty.: If the project is inactive, then you will get no objections there. CFDS is not a place for consensus-forming: if there is a sustained objection, the speedy move doesn't happen ... and I won't lift my objection unless you give project members a chance to object. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:21, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: I don't think there is a reasonable argument against this move. While we're at it, just see whether other editors in this page support or oppose this move, rather than on the WikiProject talk page because it seems that the project is inactive. Hddty. (talk) 14:16, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Hddty.: Criterion #3 is "Someone could reasonably disagree with the move". That applies here. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: It's important to think whether the move is controversial or not because, per WP:RM, if the move is uncontroversial, just move it and if the move is controversial, just add
- @Hddty.: No need to "think" whether this move is controversial. Just ask. So propose the move at the project page, giving say 7 days, and proceed if there are no sustained objections. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:09, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think this move is not controversial. This WikiProject is not active anyway. Hddty. (talk) 10:39, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Medical and health organisations based in the United Arab Emirates to Category:Medical and health organizations based in the United Arab Emirates – C2C: In line with Category:Medical and health organizations by country Rathfelder (talk) 21:00, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Goes against the convention in Category:Organisations based in the United Arab Emirates. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:31, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Albanian revolutionary organizations to Category:Albanian revolutionary organisations – C2C: per Category:Organisations based in Albania. Oculi (talk) 10:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Albanian nationalist organizations to Category:Albanian nationalist organisations
- Category:Organizations of the Albanian National Awakening to Category:Organisations of the Albanian National Awakening
- Oppose Albanians dont speak English. They dont care how "organizations" is spelt. Rathfelder (talk) 20:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- By my count there are 18 in Category:Organisations based in Albania using 's' and these 3 using 'z'. Oculi (talk) 15:49, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Albanians dont speak English. They dont care how "organizations" is spelt. Rathfelder (talk) 20:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Women's organizations based in Andorra to Category:Women's organisations based in Andorra – C2C: per Category:Organisations based in Andorra. Oculi (talk) 10:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Organizations based in Andorra by subject to Category:Organisations based in Andorra by subject
- Oppose Andorras dont speak English. They dont care how "organizations" is spelt.Rathfelder (talk) 20:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think you need a policy-based reason to oppose. Oculi (talk) 21:47, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Organisations based in Andorra was decided at cfd so it has the backing of previous consensus. Category:Organizations based in Andorra by subject is just wrong as it is a subcat scheme for Category:Organisations based in Andorra. Oculi (talk) 17:33, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Andorras dont speak English. They dont care how "organizations" is spelt.Rathfelder (talk) 20:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Organizations based in Andorra by subject to Category:Organisations based in Andorra by subject
- Category:Transport organisations by country to Category:Transport organizations by country – C2C: Subcat scheme for Category:Transport organizations. Oculi (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Skeptic organisations to Category:Skeptic organizations – C2C: Per parent Category:Philosophy organizations. Oculi (talk) 18:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Skeptic organisation logos to Category:Skeptic organization logos
- Category:Skeptic organisations by country to Category:Skeptic organizations by country
- Category:Paranormal organisations to Category:Paranormal organizations – C2C: Per all ancestors, siblings and children. Oculi (talk) 11:06, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose all. @Oculi: These pointless shufflings between two acceptable variants merely displace inconsistencies rather than resolving them. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- I am merely gratifying the present enthusiasm of @Rathfelder: (who created nearly all these) for 'zee'. Oculi (talk) 12:43, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose all. @Oculi: These pointless shufflings between two acceptable variants merely displace inconsistencies rather than resolving them. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- Category:Nanking Massacre to Category:Nanjing Massacre – C2D: Per RM closure at Talk:Nanjing Massacre RGloucester — ☎ 14:23, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Nanking Massacre deniers to Category:Nanjing Massacre deniers
- Category:Nanking Massacre perpetrators to Category:Nanjing Massacre perpetrators
- Category:Witnesses of the Nanking Massacre to Category:Witnesses of the Nanjing Massacre
- Category:Nanking Massacre films to Category:Nanjing Massacre films
- Category:Nanking Massacre books to Category:Nanjing Massacre books
- Category:Works about Nanking Massacre to Category:Works about Nanjing Massacre
- Category:People assisting Chinese during the Nanking Massacre to Category:People assisting Chinese during the Nanjing Massacre
- Category:Rescue of Chinese in the Nanking Massacre to Category:Rescue of Chinese in the Nanjing Massacre
- Category:People of the Nanking Massacre to Category:People of the Nanjing Massacre
- I will place these nominations on hold as the RM discussion was placed up for review. Armbrust The Homunculus 05:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Automobile museums to Category:Car museums – C2C: Parent category moved to Category:Cars by CFD RGloucester — ☎ 15:16, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Automobile museums in Wales to Category:Car museums in Wales
- Category:Automobile museums in Scotland to Category:Car museums in Scotland
- Category:Automobile museums in England to Category:Car museums in England
- Category:Automobile museums in the United Kingdom to Category:Car museums in the United Kingdom
- Category:Automobile museums in Ontario to Category:Car museums in Ontario
- Category:Automobile museums in Alberta to Category:Car museums in Alberta
- Category:Automobile museums in Canada to Category:Car museums in Canada
- Category:Automobile museums in Sweden to Category:Car museums in Sweden
- Category:Automobile museums in Spain to Category:Car museums in Spain
- Category:Automobile museums in New Zealand to Category:Car museums in New Zealand
- Category:Automobile museums in the Netherlands to Category:Car museums in the Netherlands
- Category:Automobile museums in Japan to Category:Car museums in Japan
- Category:Automobile museums in France to Category:Car museums in France
- Category:Automobile museums in China to Category:Car museums in China
- Category:Automobile museums in Italy to Category:Car museums in Italy
- Category:Automobile museums in the Republic of Ireland to Category:Car museums in the Republic of Ireland
- Category:Automobile museums in Greece to Category:Car museums in Greece
- Category:Automobile museums in Germany to Category:Car museums in Germany
- Category:Automobile museums in Austria to Category:Car museums in Austria
- Category:Automobile museums in Australia to Category:Car museums in Australia
- Category:Automobile museums by country to Category:Car museums by country
- Oppose all automobile museums categories. The main article is List of automobile museums. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Armburst, why are you standing in the way of every logical change? When the main article was moved to car four years ago, many obscure subpages were not moved for obvious reasons. I'm trying to tidy this up now...the article may be at 'List of automobile museums', but that can be changed directly, and should've been done right after the move. RGloucester — ☎ 15:33, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Apparently, Category:Cars was nominated for discussion (without anybody mentioning this st this page); it does not make sense to move subcats until that one has been decided.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:44, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose all automobile museums categories. The main article is List of automobile museums. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional automobiles to Category:Fictional cars – C2C: Parent category moved to Category:Cars by CFD RGloucester — ☎ 15:14, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is List of fictional automobiles. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:24, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Now moved to List of fictional cars. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- I've done that of my own accord. Apparently, the article actually started at that title and was later moved and split into pieces at some point. Anyway, I won't make any more moves, as there seems to be an issue. As I said above, some obscure subpages were left behind when car was moved, but that should not interfere with cleaning this mess up. But, if Mr Armburst doesn't agree, I'll stop...and let someone else sort all these messes up. RGloucester — ☎ 16:39, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Now moved to List of fictional cars. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is List of fictional automobiles. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:24, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Neurosurgery organisations to Category:Neurosurgery organizations – C2C: Global convention above and sideways per parent Category:Surgical organizations. Oculi (talk) 10:06, 8 November 2018 (UTC) - now at cfd
- Category:Carers organisations to Category:Carers organizations – C2C: Per convention within and above Category:Medical and health organizations. Oculi (talk) 00:21, 8 November 2018 (UTC) - now at cfd
- Category:Physiotherapy organisations to Category:Physiotherapy organizations - now at cfd
- Category:Occupational therapy organisations to Category:Occupational therapy organizations- now at cfd
- Category:Health informatics organisations to Category:Health informatics organizations - now at cfd
- Oppose all. @Oculi: These pointless shufflings between two acceptable variants merely displace inconsistencies rather than resolving them. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- I am merely gratifying the present enthusiasm of @Rathfelder: (who created nearly all these) for 'zee'. Oculi (talk) 12:43, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose all. @Oculi: These pointless shufflings between two acceptable variants merely displace inconsistencies rather than resolving them. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:State Emergency Service of Ukraine to Category:Emergency services in Ukraine – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 15:47, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article of the category is State Emergency Service of Ukraine. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:32, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Nominator moved this to full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:48, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Uniform Resource Locator to Category:URL – C2D per URL Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose @Good Olfactory: "URL" is ambiguous, so this does not meet C2D. See URL (disambiguation). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Moved to a full discussion here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose @Good Olfactory: "URL" is ambiguous, so this does not meet C2D. See URL (disambiguation). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
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