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The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 13:15, 4 December 2014 (UTC) [1].

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Trey Burke

Nominator(s): TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

This article is about a professional basketball player who was recently in the national spotlight as the 2013 National player of the year. The article covers the subject well.TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:39, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

I have notified Moisejp, the GA reviewer.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:07, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I have notified WP:MICHIGAN, WP:NBA, WP:CBBALL, WP:WPBIO and WP:BBALL as well as Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Sports and games.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:20, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I have also notified the discussants of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2012–13 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team/archive1 (Giants2008, Toa Nidhiki05, MarshalN20, Skotywa, Yellow Evan, and Elcid.ruderico)--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:30, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

I have notified Utah Jazz editor Charlesaaronthompson as well as 2013–14 Utah Jazz season editors Sirex98, AmazingGamer 91, and Thebrainthinker--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:39, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment

• The 3rd graph of the lead, which covers his collegiate year needs quite a bit of trimming. We do not need to list every award here, especially 2nd team awards. The reader should get the feel he was well regarded as a player, but not so much they stop reading this paragraph and move on to the next.Two kinds of pork^Makin'_Bacon 03:12, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Two_kinds_of_pork, I have chopped its length a great deal. Let me know if you think it is still excessive.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:34, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Comments –

• The abbreviations NCAA and NABC should be spelled out somewhere in the lead.
  • Neither the first use of NCAA or NABC refers to the full name (National Collegiate Athletic Association or National Associtaion of Basketball Coaches). Both refer to articles that use the abbreviation 2013 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament, 2012 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans, 2013 NCAA Men's Basketball All-Americans and NABC Player of the Year, making the syntax of declaring abbreviations on first use awkward snd WP:EASTEREGG-like. I have forced NCAA into the text as naturally as possible, but I don't really see a way to do so for NABC.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:36, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Note that I also attempted to force an abbreviation declaration in for the Associated Press.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• "the" is needed before Associated Press.
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• High school career: No need for two Ohio State Buckeyes men's basketball links here. Same goes for AAU links.
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:42, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• College career: Comma after Darius Morris?
  • Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:49, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• Freshman year: "His 9 assists against Duke would hold as a season high." Since no specific player has been mentioned so far in this section, this should probably start with "Burke's", to avoid confusing the readers.
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:51, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• "On March 1, Michigan defeated Illinois to win on the road against Illinois for the first time since 1995." Would be much tighter writing as "On March 1, Michian won at Illinois for the first time since 1995."
  • O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:27, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• Watchlist and honors: It feels like the first two sentences of this section should be reversed in order, to be chronological.
  • Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:29, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• Post season: Try to avoid having "30 points" repeat from one sentence to the next.
  • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:30, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
• Sophomore year: Typo in "preaseason" in the first paragraph. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:37, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:32, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

• Giants2008, please re-evaluate your concerns. It would be most helpful if you would strike resolved issues.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:33, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Is there anything else available on what the "violation of team standards" actually was?
    • That is a pretty standard phrase for Michigan athletes. It is rarely expounded upon.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:40, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
  • The "Although Burke admits that the team he leads" sentence is outdated, seemingly dating back to when the tournament was taking place. I'd just remove it; the sentence doesn't add much at this point, and this is already a long paragraph.
    • Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:43, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
  • I see 1,231 and 1218 late in this section. You should decide whether or not to include the comma in general and go with one consistent style.
    • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:45, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Watchlists and Awards and honors: Both of these sections contain a large amount of proseline writing. The "On [date]" style of sentence is seen time and time again, making for a less-than-optimal read. Try to vary the prose a little more if possible.
  • The photo by Awards and honors needs the first word of its caption capitalized.
    • Done.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:51, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
  • 2013 NBA Draft: Another outdated sentence is "Even if he does not get selected first, he is likely to be the first point guard taken, especially since Marcus Smart opted out of the draft."
    • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:55, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Utah Jazz: The em dashes at the start should be unspaced per the MoS.
    • Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:58, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
  • A smaller en dash is needed for the date range 8-12.
    • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:08, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Don't think "Rookie" should be capitalized in "Burke was the first Rookie to post...".
    • correct.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:01, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Personal life: Remove "his" from "Three former Northland teammates are current or former his Big Ten competitors".
    • Done.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:10, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Ref 31 is a dead link.
    • Swapped out.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:18, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Ref 259 has some ugly red text; it looks like there's one too many numbers in one of the dates. Giants2008 (Talk) 19:25, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
    • Fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:20, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Closing comment -- I'm afraid this one has well and truly stalled so I'll be archiving it shortly. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:14, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

• Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 13:15, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

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