Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Metal Gear media/archive1

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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 00:35, 30 May 2009 [1].

List of Metal Gear media[edit]

Nominator(s): ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs}

Featured list candidates/List of Metal Gear media/archive1

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the featured list criteria. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 19:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: Just a few comments on the games section:

Is it nesseccary to list the country after the system release. Per style of the other featured lists this isnt done
Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are duplicate listings for platforms under system release, eg. For Metal Gear PlayStation 2 is listed twice on the system release.
Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldnt the MSX2 and NES entries for metal gear be merged because they are essensially the same game

The above being said it seems it would be more practical to merge the MSX2 and NES sections together.

Your missing the year and endash on many of the system release entries for games. Salavat (talk) 06:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 18:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1) I guess not, the original creator of the article based it on List of Castlevania media, which does have some country specifications.

2) This is for showing the different country releases, again based on List of Castlevania media which has a few multiple systems entries.

3/4) I know it seems weird, but the current listing is a compromise between the editors of the list. We couldn't agree to list the games by system/canon/type/etc. until we eventually settled on this. Series creator Hideo Kojima has been vocal about the NES version (which was changed significantly) and doesn't consider it to be a Metal Gear game, so we agreed that having them separated works well. Also, Snakes Revenge was developed after the NES version, while MG2: Solid Snake was developed following the MSX2 version. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 18:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Im still not a fan of the countries after the system release. The information like that would be served better in the notes or the main article for the game, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, gets first released once for the playstation 2 in 2005. I dont think the system release is meant to be overly detailed. Salavat (talk) 01:55, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I removed the 'adjacent' year releases, but left up some of the further apart years (Metal Gear mobile phone 2004 and 2008), Family Computer/NES release countries, and releases only in one region. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kool much less excessive, my comments seem to have been ressolved however i wont support until someone else ways in with a review on the rest of the article. Salavat (talk) 14:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Alright after Dambomb's review and sticking to my word i believe i can confidently give my support to this article. Salavat (talk) 15:00, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

* Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 02:46, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK, but please do not strike others' comments per FLC instructions. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - My mistake sorry. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:08, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

"one of Konami's best-selling franchises " Comma after here.
- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 20:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:DASH, spaced en dashes should be used in the lists instead of unspaced em dashes. See List of Metroid media.
- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 20:54, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: The em dashes in the left side of the printed media boxes are coded into the template. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 20:57, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"numerous ~~different~~ video game consoles"
- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 20:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Related novels, comics, and other dramatizations have been released as well."-->Related novels, comics, and other dramatizations have also been released. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 20:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The lead needs to be expanded more, to at least two paragraphs. Could you explain the difference between the original series, the solid series and the acid series? A little more summarization of the list could be provided; e.g., what is the most recently released game? Dabomb87 (talk) 17:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, though it may need a look over for minor grammar mistakes. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 16:55, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"The first game was followed by a heavily modified port for the Family Computer/Nintendo Entertainment System, done without Kojima's involvement" By "done", do you mean "developed"?
- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"However, this game was popular enough" Remove "However". Dabomb87 (talk) 23:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

What makes http://www.en.game-ost.ru/info.php?id=164 reliable?
- It seems to be what was used on the individual soundtrack articles. But, Game-OST is used in List of StarCraft media, which is a Featured List. If it's still an issue however, I should be able to replace most, if not all, of the refs with what can be found here: http://www.squareenixmusic.com/series/metalgear/discography.shtml ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 04:32, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - OK (replace them). Dabomb87 (talk) 12:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 16:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 27, spell out "SCEE".
- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 47, http://spong.com/detail/assetView.asp?viewid=9170&type=3&srcId=11023730&b2=list, needs a publisher. Also, what makes this a reliable source?
- Fixed. Replaced with an already used GameSpot source. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:52, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Web titles should not be in all caps; convert them to title case (refs 11, 71).
- Ref 11 fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Question: Refs 70 (formerly 71), 84, 85, and 86 are all from Japanese sites which I believe only use capital English characters. Should these still all be changed to lower case? ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 16:05, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 2, "Computer and Video Games", should be italicized because it is a publication.
- Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 03:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Make all dates in the references the same format (I suggest "Month DD, YYYY"). Dabomb87 (talk) 23:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Should be fixed now. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 04:01, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Truco

Review by Truco (talk · contribs)

Lead

'The games take place in a semi-fictional universe and the stories involve a special forces agent (Solid Snake in most games)' --> The games take place in a semi-fictional universe with stories that involve a special forces agent (Solid Snake in most games)

Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 22:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'This game was popular enough to garner a sequel, again without Kojima's involvement, released outside of Japan.' --> This game earned enough popularity to garner a sequel, again without Kojima's involvement, released outside of Japan.

Fixed. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 22:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Music albums

I find it unnecessary to use the same source more than once to verify information about the same topic, I think just listing the source under the title will suffice or adding a row called Ref would help.

Fixed. Column called "Source" added. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 22:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

Per WP:ACCESS and {{reflist}}, it is recommended that only 2 columns be used because most browsers and pc's can't handle 3.

It's currently set to "colwidth=30em", should this still be changed to "2"? ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 22:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's fine as is. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All right, I'll leave it be then. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 23:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is an inconsistency with the linking of publishers, either link all of them, link it on just the first occurrence, or don't link them at all.--Tru co 22:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The only one's left unlinked are those without Wikipedia articles. ^TH1RT3EN _{talk ♦ contribs} 22:52, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- Previous issues resolved; article now meets WP:WIAFL.--Tru co 20:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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