Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/log/October 2013

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List of Black Lagoon episodes

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I believe it no longer meets FL criteria due to lack of sourcing, weak episode summaries, and current structure. Airdates are sourced with cal.syoboi.jp which I doubt is reliable. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 01:50, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

• Took me a while, and I'm still not perfectly happy with everything about this list, but I think that demotion is no longer necessary at this time. Goodraise 07:17, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I'll check the sourcing and stuff later. I also want to bring up that the DVD cover may not justify WP:NFCC. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 07:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

• Source 4 only has the starting date?
• Same with source 5
• Is there a source that the episode numbering is a continuation from the past seasons? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:37, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

• Sources 4 and 5 provide a starting date and they let us know that the respective season aired every week on the same day.
• The CDJapan sources provide episode numbers presumably taken from the respective DVD or Blu-ray Discs. Goodraise 09:07, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
• About the cover, yes, technically it and many like it are in violation of WP:NFCC. However, this particular violation is so widespread and so widely tolerated that one little FLC/FLRC is not the place to resolve this inconsistency between guidelines and practice. Holding a discussion, aiming to remove them all or to change NFCC accordingly, at a more central venue, WP:MCQ perhaps, or WP:VPP, would be a far more effective use of the community's time. Goodraise 14:51, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh I see, it was a burning question since I had to remove a DVD cover from a previous FL. Well my current issues are still the source for airdates, which I have no intention of pushing. Something I will push is that the media table structure would be more accessible if divided by volumes instead of episodes; plus the fact there is an empty blu-ray slot in Australisa which looks odd in the table. I'll see if I can get more views from the anime/manga wikiproject. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 02:35, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Both, whether this manner of use of non-free media should be permissible, as well as whether every single air date needs a source even in situations like this, are questions I'd like to see answered by more than a handful of random FLC/FLRC participants. As for the table, the empty column could easily be removed if need be, but I don't see what advantage a by-volume organization would bring. Goodraise 10:47, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Comment nominated in JUNE, last comment in JULY, it's now OCTOBER, this clearly has no consensus for delisting. Suggest this is closed. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, ok. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 20:50, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Delisted

List of Last Exile episodes

Notified: WikiProject Anime and manga

No longer meets FL criteria. Weak summaries, incomplete table since the introduction of the second series, and lacks sourcing in multiple locations. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:30, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

If you could throw a couple of {{cn}}s into the article, that would help illustrate the problem. Goodraise 18:11, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Delist - Numerous places needing references (helpfully illustrated by DragonZero's CN tags). Also, the summaries for the second series are much longer than those for the first, and I feel like they are a lot longer than episode summaries generally are in this type of list. Dana boomer (talk) 19:21, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Delist, per above comments. Goodraise 12:49, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Delist, per above.-Godot13 (talk) 03:35, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

• Delist in case it's been missed. This list, with it's maintenance tags, should have been delisted some time ago. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:32, 3 October 2013 (UTC)