Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Juggling on the Berlin Wall

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Juggling on the Berlin Wall[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 2 Sep 2010 at 19:40:29 (UTC)

Original - Juggling on the Berlin Wall on November 16, 1989.
Reason
very unusual performance during a historical event
Articles in which this image appears
Berlin Wall
FP category for this image
History/Others
Creator
Yann (talk)
  • Support as nominator --Yann (talk) 19:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is my first nomination here, so please bear with me. ;o) Yann (talk) 19:54, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment IMO, to have sufficient encyclopedic value (EV), the article should do more than just have this image in it with a caption; the article’s body text should mention this incident and explain how it was a significant event that contributed to the fall of the wall (or whatever is the true case). Doing a word search, I see only one mention of “juggling” (which is this caption) and zero mentions of “juggle.” As there appears to be no mention of this event in the body text, it leads me to suspect it was insignificant in the history of the wall—a minor side note. If that is truly the case, then this picture has insufficient EV to merit Featured Picture status. Greg L (talk) 21:27, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Completely agree with Greg. The mere fact that something happened does not mean that an image of it has strong encyclopedic value, no matter how unusual it was. J Milburn (talk) 22:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Why wasn't he shot, anyway? That was before the Wall fell. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Perestroika, which started a few years earlier. It allowed the guards to feel comfortable that they wouldn’t be upside-down in chains in some gulag in Siberia if they failed to shoot him. Military justice is no joke—even in the U.S. If a military airplane mechanic screws up through negligence and causes the death of an airplane crew, there is hell to pay in the form of stockade time and being marched around to court hearings with two guards flanking the (ex)-mechanic. Greg L (talk) 17:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Not convinced about the EV. Sasata (talk) 18:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as above. J Milburn (talk) 18:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support If you can link this to something that suggests this image is of great importance to it. It's an interesting old picture, but I want to see if it's historical some way, not just old, like, who is the juggler (biography on WP?) and under what circumstances did they get to do this? --I'ḏOne 18:57, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]