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Stavesacre[edit]

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Result: Delisted per unresolved concerns. After one month, only one message has been written from the nominator in agreement of delisting. dannymusiceditor what'd I do now? 20:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As I was searching through WP Metal's GA list, I found this (I had never heard of the band). But it was promoted to GA nearly eight years ago by Burningclean, an editor which appears to have retired, and there are problems which exist now because of events that hadn't become part of their history yet. As I am at school, I cannot complete my list of concerns at the moment, but I'll be back on in about 3 hours to list them. dannymusiceditor what'd I do now? 11:18, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Right now, this is the condition I believe the article is in.

  • Well-written?
  • Prose quality: The prose looks alright in most places, but not all of them, especially when we're talking about their post-GA pass activity. Their tour in 2009 and their information about their last release could be condensed into a single paragraph. Does that go under "prose"? I don't know. First time reviewing something. '^^
  • Manual of Style: (Initially) Not sure. Probably okay. I don't know better about what a failing MOS would look like. (20 minutes later) Oh, wait. It's missing a style and influences section, which would be really nice for a band article. Other concerns: How to Live with a Curse and Friction have been redirected and thus should be delinked. Against the Silence should be italicized.
  • Verifiable?
  • Reference layout: More than half of the web references in this article are dead, according to checklinks. However, that's only six, so it's doable.
  • Reliable sources: Haven't checked this yet.
  • No original research: Several statements are missing citations. One of the biggest ones is the message from MySpace, which has a [citation needed] tag because it's not in the source before the quote. The Cornerstone Festival '09 announcement and Against the Silence EP should have citations. The entire reunion section is unsourced. (Neglect, surely?) Genres seem to have been put there arbitrarily, we'll need sources for this. I mean, seriously, alt metal, post-hardcore, post-punk, and art rock all in one? I doubt that highly. The current genre field has been largely modified from its original state when it passed GA (shown here [1]), and none of the new ones are sourced. There are several more statements that aren't even tagged that I'm also concerned about. The members section should be updated with info about their current lineup. Right now, it is written as if the group is still inactive. That leads to another question about the article's coverage.
  • Broad in coverage?
  • Major aspects: The part about their reunion needs expansion and elaboration. More details. It's too short, even for such and underground band as Stavesacre. It'd do great with a couple sentences more about Against the Silence and their Cornerstone appearance. Their lineup - is it the same as when they broke up? If not, who was changed? Add that in the reunion section. (Maybe it didn't change at all, and if that's the case then just change the section to reflect that the band is active.)
  • Focused: I guess.
  • Neutral?: I see no obvious bias from the encyclopedia's side. That being said, is there any negative criticism available for their albums? I think we could add one for a couple of their albums.
  • Stable?: Being that hardly anyone notices this band, nobody fights much.
  • Illustrated, if possible, by images? (Well, for one thing, it'd be nice to have one, but maybe it's still impossible. Why don't we take a recheck?)
  • Appropriate licensing:
  • Relevance and captioning:

I'm unable to work on this right now, as I'm inexperienced with the band, and I'm not the greatest prosewriter. I'd welcome anyone to help with this, but really I'm just trying to bring this to attention, because there are several issues with the article. If nobody opposes, I propose delisting. I look forward to comments...well, actually, that's not the right wording because we don't look forward to delisting, but you get the idea. dannymusiceditor what'd I do now? 15:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from Burningclean[edit]

I am indeed mostly retired. Shame that this band is so little known. My username comes from a lyric in one of their songs. Unfortunately there is simply not enough reliable info on the internet to try and update the page. The only sources I'd have are Facebook posts and messages between members of the band and I. Bummer. Burningclean [speak] 01:12, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Delisted

Unfortunately, it does not seem that there is any interest on this. I've given this a month and only received one comment from the original nominator that it appears unfixable. I am therefore delisting the article; I think it'd just end up having a fate similar to Byzantine's. I would not care to wait three months for this to pick up. I doubt there would be any controversy in me removing this from GA status. dannymusiceditor what'd I do now? 20:01, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]