Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop/Archive/Aug 2010

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Remove the effect of joints in the pan

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:03, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): General Rafael Urdaneta Bridge

Request: Remove the effect of joints in the pan. Improving the fuzzy parts. You could work with this too Libertad0 ॐ (talk) 12:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Re-creating the panorama from scratch will be much easier than editing an existing one. Could you perhaps upload the ingredient images separately to Commons or any file hosting site? —Quibik (talk) 00:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
No, my computer and conection are very slow, I'm sorry . Sure, I find help :) --Wilfredor (talk) 15:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Panoramica del Puente sobre el Lago de Maracaibo 1.jpgPanoramica del Puente sobre el Lago de Maracaibo 2.jpgPanoramica del Puente sobre el Lago de Maracaibo 3.jpg

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilfredor (talkcontribs) 17:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Uhm... thanks, but aren't these just crops of the unmodified panorama image? What I meant by "ingredient images" would be the unedited original images directly from a camera. Don't you have access to these anymore? —Quibik (talk) 21:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I have only that -->

Puente Sobre el Lago de Maracaibo visto desde visita tu puente 00.jpgPuente Sobre el Lago de Maracaibo visto desde visita tu puente 05.jpgPuente Sobre el Lago de Maracaibo visto desde visita tu puente 07.jpgPuente Sobre el Lago de Maracaibo visto desde visita tu puente 06.jpg

And all images in commons:Category:Puente Sobre el Lago de Maracaibo --Wilfredor (talk) 12:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Pennsylvania Desert and Mily Balakirev

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): The Pennsylvania Desert image is used in two FAs: Leonard Harrison State Park and Quehanna Wild Area, and the Balakirev image is used in the FAs Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, and Tchaikovsky and The Five

Request: Could both be cleaned up, the moire pattern is especially bad in the Balakirev image - it looks like he fell asleep on a waffle iron. Thanks in advance for any help, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Partialy done: Moire removed from Bakirev face only. PawełMM (talk) 11:07, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning his face up - looks much better, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Cisalpine Gaul

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): Cisalpine Gaul

Request: flatten, fix shading, trim blank space... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Chicago Chinatown Gate

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): Chinatown, Chicago, Armour Square, Chicago, South Side (Chicago), Chinatown

Request: At Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Chicago Chinatown Gate, there was a comment that this image might be de-noise for chromatic fringing in the sky, TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done. Fixed yellow tone + noise and made the image smaller in size. --Shandristhe azylean 13:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Misc ESC artists

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): Anna Bergendahl Lena Meyer-Landrut Safura Alizadeh

Request: Correct the colors on these pictures. I think they are too red and green and perhaps too dark. Compare pictures taken at the same event here: and here: Thank you. Athyllis (talk) 15:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done The last two didn't require much editing. Hope its okay now. Finemann (talk) 15:43, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Nr one was good, however I'm doubtful about 2-4 because they don't seem to have natural colors. For example Safura's shirt got green when it's in fact gray and Lena got too much color in my opinion. It might look nice but is not good in an encyclopedia. Athyllis (talk) 14:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 Redone: Acording to Athyllis remark. PawełMM (talk) 15:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Corrections to 2,3,4 are okay, but i think 1 is too bright Finemann (talk) 16:13, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Mahuaa Khobor

Stale: Kintetsubuffalo
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Article(s): Mahuaa Khobor

Request: Remove the black portion and white portion and make it transparent.--Kkm010 | Talk with me 09:40, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):


Selous Scouts


Article(s): Selous Scouts

Request: trim away weird shading, perhaps pngify?... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: Shadows on backgroun cleared only. PawełMM (talk) 08:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

 Redone: PNGify. PawełMM (talk) 10:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Brilliant, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Julien Dubuque Bridge

Resolved: Nicely done. Thanks again! –Fredddie 16:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): U.S. Route 20

Request: Adjust colors and contrast. Thanks! –Fredddie 08:28, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Done: Color & contrast enhanced, bottom part cropped. PawełMM (talk) 10:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I tweaked Paweł's version a little further by reducing the slight blue colour cast and removed the darker fringing areas in the top corners of the image.  Fallschirmjäger    10:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Clone out a little bit of building


Article(s): Greenville Carnegie Library

Request: Please clone out the little bit of the adjacent building visible on the right edge of the photo; I couldn't get the entire Memorial Hall in the photo without getting a little bit of the adjacent building as well. Please upload on top of the original image; no need to upload under a different name. Nyttend (talk) 20:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

  • Image's request under progression Request taken by Ukexpat. – ukexpat (talk) 20:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
  •  Done  – ukexpat (talk) 21:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Looks great; thanks! Nyttend (talk) 22:49, 28 July 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Chicago

Request: remove border per WPMOS... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 22:46, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Golden Party Badge


Article(s): Golden Party Badge

Request: remove background, fix perspective. If you make it a png, please rename it File:Golden Party Badge.png, thank you. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:26, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.:

 Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 16:08, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Fantastic, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Arinori Mori


Article(s): Arinori Mori

Request: trim to oval... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:02, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 22:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:46, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Portraits from a group photo


Article(s): Qiangba Puncog, Padma Choling

Request: Create two separate images centered on each man but excluding the other as File:Qiangba Puncong.jpg and File:Padma Choling.jpg. Splittist (talk) 00:30, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

  • While this is possible, the source image is at a low resolution, which would result in an even lower resolution image as the output. mono 02:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done: Done sa requested. I think, that resolution for biographical entries is enough. PawełMM (talk) 09:42, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

You're correct on the resolution; I've seen worse on biographies. Well done, thank you! Splittist (talk) 15:22, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Ontario Highway 401


Looks great! The third wire doesn't obscure the view much, I won't ask you to spend several hours on it. Thank you! - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 12:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): Ontario Highway 401

Request: Try to remove all 3 wires. I imagine the lowest wire will be impossible to remove without faking the details beneath, but even removing the top two would really clear the picture up. Thank you, ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 15:49, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Hi, the first two came off easily. The third one as expected would take some time (~ 2-3 hours). So if you want it really removed post a message on my Discussions page. Finemann (talk) 17:26, 30 July 2010 (UTC) Done

Salt and pepper shakers


Article(s): Deep focus

Request: I would like a few things done:

  • Remove the picture frame at the top of the image
  • Remove the junk at the end of the table in the far right of the image
  • Change the wall color to a light blue or light gray or something in order to provide more contrast.

Feel free to upload the modified version over the original. Thanks! SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:28, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done Removed picture frame and junk as requested. Well, blue or gray doesn't seem to fit well, so i ended up with green. Hope you liked it, feel free to revert Finemann (talk) 05:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks good! Thanks. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

William Hepworth Dixon


Article(s): William Hepworth Dixon

Request: I think, but I'm not sure, that the colour and brightness looks more correct in the small version. Can the high resolution file be cleaned to look more like the low resolution one? Cheers. P. S. Burton (talk) 18:47, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: White balanced & borders cropped of large file. PawełMM (talk) 20:42, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. But do you think you could do a version were the borders are not cropped as well. The caption is a part of the cartoon. P. S. Burton (talk) 21:33, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 Redone: Borders restored. PawełMM (talk) 07:56, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Once again, thank you very much. P. S. Burton (talk) 08:25, 1 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Christine O'Donnell

Request: Please, edit photo so it can be used as the main photo of O'Donnell. Wwuww (talk) 1:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 07:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Beau Biden


Article(s): Beau Biden

Request: Please, edit photo to focus on Beau Biden. Wwuww (talk) 1:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 08:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Dorothy Hodgkin


Thank you, that's much better. Cassandra 73 (talk) 11:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): Dorothy Hodgkin

Request: cropping so that only the original photo is visible and removing or reducing the red reflection. Cassandra 73 (talk) 21:12, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done This photograph possibly is of a another framed photograph. The reflection of the photographer is visible in red (his t-shirt i guess!). And since it was taken in a room were other photographs were also displayed that reflection is also visible. A complete restoration and removal of the reflection will be very difficult because of this. I have done what I can.Finemann (talk) 05:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC) Also, I assumed that the background of the actual photo is dark because reflection is maximum when the color is blackFinemann (talk) 05:14, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Jan Ting


Article(s): Jan C. Ting

Request: Please, edit photo so it can be used as a head shot photo of Ting. Wwuww (talk) 11:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 07:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

5th World Scout Jamboree


Article(s): 5th World Scout Jamboree

Request: see above... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 12:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Great, much better, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Yap

Request: Fix perspective and trim... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done The boundary at the top-left corner was added. Hope its fine Finemann (talk) 10:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Fantastic, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): safari

Request: fix warp at top, remove border... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:53, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by Orionist.. I don't know if we should remove the border, though, since this is an old map. -- Orionisttalk 13:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

At least can you fix the warp?--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 Done: Warp fixed. PawełMM (talk) 07:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
I was sure I saw this map somewhere on the web. So I searched for it and found a higher resolution version, but it had the same distortion. So I uploaded the original (in case someone needs it for any reason), then fixed the warp, removed the seam in the middle, and uploaded the new version. I just want to apologize to PawelMM, he knocks these requests really fast! Regards, -- Orionisttalk 19:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Habana

Request: transparent background... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Its pretty difficult to do this, the text in the map is unreadableFinemann 07:39, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done: Despite everything I did this. PawełMM (talk) 07:51, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Great, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Cataluña

Request: Remove border per WPMOS. I know this is a map, but stuff gets done here fastest. Thanks. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by Orionist.

Well, at first I thought this was a simple request, but then I realized that now I have to do the same to all the other related maps! Thank God there aren't many of them! -- Orionisttalk 19:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your hard work, wow! お疲れさまです! (same in Japanese)--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 Done. You're always welcome! Je vous en prie! (same in French, I think, my French is a bit rusty!) Regards, -- Orionisttalk 08:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Muchas gracias! (I don't know Catalan)--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:38, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Scouting in Saint Martin

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Article(s): Scouting in Saint Martin

Request: crop edge to sharper round... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done as requested. You may ask in the Illustration Lab for a vectorized version of this image.Finemann (talk) 07:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, and for the suggestion! I may just do that!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Rex Stout

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Article(s): Rex Stout

Request: fix contrast, several different monitors, he seems to bleed into the background... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 21:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Better, but it's now left a cloudy look on the right side, what caused that?--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I corrected a bit contrast of the right side. I think it looks better now. PawełMM (talk) 08:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Better, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:28, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Premier Dexter


Article(s): Darrell Dexter

Please, crop the photo to make a head shot. Wwuww (talk) 15:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done. --Shandristhe azylean 22:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Sierra Leone Scouts Association

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Article(s): Sierra Leone Scouts Association

Request: remove stray edging... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done as requested. Finemann (talk) 14:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much, you do really nice work!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Centennial (novel)

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Article(s): Centennial (novel)

Request: fix perspective and crop... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:36, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done as requested Finemann (talk) 09:39, 8 August 2010 (UTC).

Fantastic, much better than I had hoped!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Census Bureau


Article(s): Census Bureau

Request: crop away top caption per WPMOS... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:39, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done: Sreejith K (talk) 14:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:12, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

O'Donnell again


Article(s): Christine O'Donnell

Is it possible to crop the photo to make a head shot and try to even out brightness, without making a new upload. Wwuww (talk) 12:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:

  • If that's done it will look even worse IMHO, as it is such low res image, and her face is actually out of focus. Do you have a higher res version we can work with as the original file at File:Return Day 1.jpg is not much better? – ukexpat (talk) 19:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I do not can you crop it a little more, after trying to fix the brightness. Wwuww (talk) 1:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 Done. --Shandristhe azylean 22:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Tom Bradley


Article(s): Tom Bradley

Please, crop the photo to focus on Mayor Bradley and try to even out the contrast. Wwuww (talk) 9:40, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:  Done as requested. New file at File:Tom Bradley Cropped.jpgFinemann (talk) 08:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Pinky

Request: trim away excess blank space... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:09, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done -  Fallschirmjäger    15:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Passport

Request: perspective and trim... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done -  Fallschirmjäger    18:30, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, sorry I missed this, I was sure I had acted on it!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Flora Japonica


Article(s): Flora Japonica

Request: fix perspective... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done as requested. Fιηεmαηη [talk] 06:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC).

Much better, thank you! You do great work!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): shah

Request: rotate to straight... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done - Here you are :)  Fallschirmjäger    19:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:48, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Portrait of William Jarvis


Article(s): William Jarvis (merchant)

Request: Wonder if you might be able to remove the unsightly crimping? Thank you! MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Much improved. Many thanks! MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:46, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Done - uploaded over original file. Cheers, Connormah 22:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Theodore Dwight Woolsey and Arthur Twining Hadley


Article(s): Theodore Dwight Woolsey, Arthur Twining Hadley


Woolsey: rmv watermark
Hadley: Cleanup, rmv watermark.
Thanks. Connormahtalk 22:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): I did the second one. I dont think one can do much on the first one. Finemann (talk) 08:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Scrabble

Request: Create second file, cropped to just board and fixed for perspective, entitled File:Scrabble game in final stages.jpg Thanks.. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done as requested. Really sorry for the delay, I was a lil' busy! New file:File:Scrabble game in final stages.jpg Fιηεmαηη [talk] 03:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem, thank you so much, it's great!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Also probably a copyright violation, see [1] and commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Scrabble board in play.jpg. — raekyT 05:57, 13 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Buster Keaton

Request: Current FP that's not really up to today's standards- we've got used to seeing historical images like this restored or at least cleaned. It seems to me that it's best it gets cleaned rather than delisted- the cleaner would also have every right to claim a FP credit, if they were that way inclined. J Milburn (talk) 09:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by Fallschirmjäger. 16:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done -  Fallschirmjäger    22:51, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, as this is a current FP, I have reverted your upload of the edit. Could you possibly upload it separately, then I can start a formal delist/replace request? Thanks. J Milburn (talk) 10:32, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, no problem. The new version has now been uploaded under a seperate filename, cheers.  Fallschirmjäger    11:33, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Rudolf Carl von Slatin


Article(s): Rudolf Carl von Slatin

Request: trim top blank space to focus on subject... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Done by Mono.  ono  06:31, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Anabell López


Article(s): Anabell López

Request: hurts... must... look... away... can't... stand... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:46, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Cleaned it up as much as I could. (That has to be the worst image I've seen on Wikipedia...) Might still need some color correction, though. —Quibik (talk) 21:33, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, that's much more... uh... much less... uh... thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:16, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

About it: The problem was this photo was maded in a dark cafeconcert room and using the full zoom of one not very good digital camera.I know she looks more better in reality than here but I maded my contribution despite all.I'm Sorry.In the future I will try to make better photos using the experience of the last intent.Thank you.

Vicond2 (talk) 13:52, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Don't be let down by the harsh comments from me and Kintetsubuffalo. The way the image looks is perfectly understandable considering the conditions and there's nothing wrong with that. It just needed some cleaning up. These images are certainly better than having no images at all! So, please don't let these comments stop you from uploading any other images to Wikipedia! —Quibik (talk) 14:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, by the way I fixed some errors on my note:the word zoom instead of soon and the word than instead of that.Thank you for your backing, work and time. Vicond2 (talk) 21:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Free Territory of Trieste


Article(s): Free Territory of Trieste

Request: pngify and remove border... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:07, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done  Begoontalk 12:33, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you sir!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:37, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Pandora's Box (film)

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Article(s): Pandora's Box (film)

Request: clean up artifacting... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done - found a clearer image, and cleaned it up instead...  Begoontalk 02:11, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

That is fantastic, really stunning, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:05, 18 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Rongorongo

Request: the color of the gif is actually useful to bring out detail, can it be replaced in the png?... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:42, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by Fallschirmjäger. 18:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done -  Fallschirmjäger    19:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Persia

Request: close crop... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done edge perspective and crop.  Begoontalk 07:36, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you as always!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:07, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Pedro II of Brazil


Article(s): Pedro II of Brazil

Request: Hi, everyone, good night! I was wondering if any of you could help me out with this one. There is a picture of Emperor Pedro II of Brazil that've I tried to color it (See [2]). However, my skills are close to... none and I was unable to make his beard and hair blond. And I also believe his skin color is not close to how it truly was (See [3] or [4] or [5]). I'd like to warn you all that it is in fact a photomontage of a photograph of Pedro II (his head) and a painting of his (the body and background), both done in 1851. If you could also make that photomontage look better, that is, more real, it would be great. I am going to nominate the article for featured status so wanted everything to look perfect. Thank you all very much! Lecen (talk) 00:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done Guess its okay now. Feel free to revert or ask for further improvements. Finemann (talk) 08:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Finemann! There is one problem left to deal with, however: his heair and beard color. As can be ssen in these paintings (See [6] or [7] or [8]) it had a yellowish tone. Is someone capable of fixing that? Regards, --Lecen (talk) 12:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done I hope you find it satisfactory. The picture was also very reddish and dark so I made some enhancements to go with the blond hair. Regards, -- Orionisttalk 19:19, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I believe its fine, now. Thank you very much! --Lecen (talk) 11:20, 18 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Smoking in Japan

Request: fix perspective, trim... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Done two of them so far...  Fallschirmjäger    21:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

3 more done.  Fallschirmjäger    17:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 Done - All of them are done now. The last one was hard to work on but I've managed to sort out most of its distortion. Hope they are ok!  Fallschirmjäger    21:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
御疲れ様です! Thank you so much for your hard work! That last one must have been a bear!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Are these photographs of signs in Japan? If so then they're probably all derivative works and will need deleted. — raekyT 05:48, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Based on what? These are all fair-use images hosted on the English Wikipedia.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
The artwork on them would pass the threshold of originality to grant it copyright protection to the creator... Thus the photos of the signs are derivative works and we would require OTRS of the original creator of the signs artwork to allow their use here. — raekyT 06:31, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
They are still under the same rules as movie posters and PSAs-only a reason for non-overuse, not a call to mass-delete.--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:42, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Are you trying to say your claiming WP:NFC? They wouldn't pass WP:NFCC, you'd have to choose ONE of them, and even then the way it's used in the article does not justify a non-free media claim. Secondly they're not even labeled as such, so I tagged them all as no-evidence-for-permission, since they're copyrighted works of Japan Tobacco International (JTI), they was advertisements. And finally, if they are non-free media they CAN'T be displayed here! — raekyT 07:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Actually because of those claims I re-tagged them as missing fair-use rationale, but be warned, none of these will pass WP:NFCC and all will be deleted under that most likely. In hindsight I think it was silly of me to assume that the flickr user was an official agent of JTI and that there was no realistic expectation of the possibly of getting evidence of permission. — raekyT 07:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, even if these signs are permanently in a public place, Japanese law doesn't seem to be on our side here. I can see them potentially being used under our non-free content criteria, but, almost certainly, as Raeky says, only one of them. In what article did you intend to use them? J Milburn (talk) 19:30, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

I believe Smoking in Japan, it does discuss these ads in one paragraph in the "Japanese smoking culture" section, but I'm skeptical that it needs an illustration of it under fair-use. I don't think the wording of the article would justify WP:NFCC#8. — raekyt 02:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, there's a brief, unsourced mention. If there were a couple of sources in the paragraph, and the style of the image was discussed (as it is now) I don't think I'd have too much objection to one of them being used. J Milburn (talk) 09:21, 16 August 2010 (UTC)


NFCC image.svg

Article(s): Bandolero

Request: crop edging down past tape stains... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done cropped and cleaned up a little - but very low res, so there are limits...  Begoontalk 08:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

It's much better than it was, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:12, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Again, you HAVE to use {{GLNF}} when linking fair-use images here! This time a warning. — raekyt 10:30, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh gosh, a warning! Whatever shall I do?--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Clapham Junction


Article(s): Clapham Junction

Request: crop down excess border and black line at bottom... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:17, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done: tweak angle, min retouch, crop  Begoontalk 08:58, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

That's what I wanted, thank you sir!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 09:13, 18 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Steve Cooley

Please, crop the photo to focus on Steve Cooley and try to make a head shot photo. Wwuww (talk) 12:40, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Image's request under progression Request taken by Mono.  ono  23:54, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

1st World Scout Jamboree

NFCC image.svg

Article(s): 1st World Scout Jamboree

Request: trim border left side... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done - cropped.  Begoontalk 07:53, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you as always!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Petroglyph

Request: weird miscoloration line top third... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:16, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done as requested. Fιηεmαηη (talk) 12:17, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:28, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Bundaberg Rum


Article(s): Bundaberg Rum

Request: trim down to focus on bottle... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done as requested. Fιηεmαηη (talk) 12:18, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:28, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Help converting a video on Flickr to ogv format


Time Lapse: Baughman's Rock Overlook (on Flickr)

Article(s): For use in Ohiopyle State Park

Request: I realize this is a video file on Flickr (but you could look at is as a series of photos ;-) ). Would it be possible for someone to please convert it to Theora ogv format and upload it to Commons? We hope to eventually get the park's article to FA. Thanks in advance for any help, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by Imzadi1979.: working on it.  Done: Uploaded at File:Baughman's Rock Overlook.ogv Imzadi 1979  16:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Dincher (talk) 16:37, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, thanks very much! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 16:45, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Lord Hawke


Article(s): Yorkshire captaincy affair of 1927 etc.

Request: Please remove watermark from the image to the right, and adjust colours to match the centre image and crop. The image on the left is my own attempt. P. S. Burton (talk) 15:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): I removed the watermark again from scratch - colour adjusted - not precise match to example but original is different. See what you think...  Begoontalk 12:59, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, it looks very good, but do you think it would be possible to make the orange stripes more red. P. S. Burton (talk) 19:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I tried for a while to do that without affecting the rest of the colour - I couldn't get it right - maybe someone better at colour balancing will have a go. I think the problem is there is less red in those stripes in the high res image to start with than in your example image - but I'm not certain - someone more skilled with colour filters than I am may have more luck. It may be a case of adding red to just the stripes and the bat handle to achieve it. I just uploaded one with red boosted overall - the face is too red in that one.  Begoontalk 20:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I got rid of some of the redness in the face by filtering it out in just that area - but it's still not as red as you want it in the stripes.  Begoontalk 20:29, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
I had a go with it as well. I further tweaked Begoon's version to increase the red in the stripes and some other colour adjustment, also cropped the left side to even up the amount of border around the image.  Fallschirmjäger    11:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
That's much better - I could only get that much red in it by forcing everything to ridiculous unnatural levels when I tried - yours is excellent and well balanced.  Begoontalk 12:53, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
That's great, big thanks to both of you. P. S. Burton (talk) 14:49, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Edith Rogers/Charles Mitchell


Article(s): Edith Rogers

Request: Remove watermark. Thanks. Connormahtalk 18:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done -Sreejith K (talk) 03:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Hynes


Article(s): Daniel Hynes

Please, crop the photo to focus on Daniel Hynes' picture on the left hand corner of the screen and try to make a head shot photo from it. Wwuww (talk) 3:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion:  Done - heavily retouched because it was quite pixellated when pulled out of that big pic. Face was ok - suit/background retouched...  Begoontalk 09:58, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

The version by Begoon seems to lack perspective correction, so I created a new version with that taken care of. I was a bit less aggressive in noise reduction as well. —Quibik (talk) 12:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes I didn't even look at that - my effort was horribly distorted - too busy looking at the pixels to step back and look at the picture... I hang my head in shame, and I've done a new version. I don't think it's ever going to make a particularly good shot, though, because of that peculiar "in the middle of a word" expression you often get when snapping someone speaking rather than posed, and the noise in the shot. It's better than no free image at all, though - and Quibik's is still better than mine for colour in the tie etc...  Begoontalk 16:09, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Archduke Franz Ferdinand


Article(s): Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria

Request: Create a decent black and white version. Thanks. Connormah 22:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done - File:Franz ferdinand bw.jpg -  Begoontalk 08:35, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Herbert Greenfield


Article(s): Herbert Greenfield

Request: Remove watermark - thanks. Connormah 00:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done --Sreejith K (talk) 18:10, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I think that the image has changed quite a lot. The person in the new image looks different. Fιηεmαηη (talk) 19:28, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, the result Sreejith K got was a bit like I first got when I tried it - I had to spend quite a bit of time getting something better, it was quite a tricky mark because it was very close to the underlying image in many places. See what you think of the latest version.  Begoontalk 02:31, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Good Job! Fιηεmαηη (talk) 07:08, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Herbert Charles Wilson


Article(s): Herbert Charles Wilson

Request: Remove watermark. Connormah 19:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Done as requested. Fιηεmαηη (talk) 19:41, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank a bunch - much appreciated. Connormah 19:45, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Any chance anyone can cleanup the photo, as well? I tried, but my web browser's rendering is going out of whack - it always renders the images 2x bigger - 2 specific things though, if possible - trim the white space on top, and remove the white dot in the right side. Thanks a bunch. Connormah 00:44, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Sure will do. Fιηεmαηη (talk) 07:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)  Done

Puerto Rico Highway 139

Resolved: Thanks! –Fredddie 23:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Article(s): Puerto Rico Highway 139

Request: The haze over the city is, well, too hazy. –Fredddie 21:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): I first straightened the image because the horizon wasn't level, I also corrected the colouring and reduced the haze a bit but to be honest there is always going to be pale colour the further you go in distance, its a natural occurance. Making the horizon colour too vibrant won't look natural but if anyone thinks they can improve it further please by all means give it a shot ;)  Fallschirmjäger    22:12, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Siti Nurhaliza performing


Article(s): List of awards received by Siti Nurhaliza

Request: Can anyone remove the watermark please? XD Syfuel (talk) 18:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by Fallschirmjäger. 20:09, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done -  Fallschirmjäger    20:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks a lot!! XDSyfuel (talk) 03:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Watermark Removals


Article(s): Josiah Quincy III, Jared Sparks, James Walker (Harvard)

Request: Remove watermarks. Thanks. Connormahtalk 23:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

  • Comment - tried these, but even with Photoshop's wonderful new Content Aware Fill on the Spot Healing Brush I can't get an acceptable result. Spot healing and clone stamping leave too many traces - the watermarks obscure too much important detail that would need to be redrawn, and then it's not enhancement/restoration, it's pretty much WP:OR - sorry, maybe someone else has more skill at this...  Begoontalk 17:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
A method I have effectively used before (on File:Chester A. Arthur portrait c1882.jpg, for example) is using the upscaled thumbnail image available on the archive's image description page (i.e. this) to replace the watermark: the watermark is placed in different positions on the thumbnail and the full-scale images. Some additional cloning can then be used to make the upscaled and blurry areas seem more natural. It won't look perfect, but the watermarks are certainly removable. —Quibik (talk) 18:52, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Did the first one. I don't think I'll have time to do the others, though. (As a tip to anyone else interested in working with the others: simply adding noise (extracted from the background, for example) to the blurry areas works surprisingly well. Also, the thumbnail images need gamma correction by ~0.67.) —Quibik (talk) 20:28, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
That's clever, and superb - I'll try and find time to try one of the others with your method later today.  Begoontalk 23:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
I had a go at the second one using the technique you described.  Begoontalk 04:44, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
You did a great job with the image! I also did some more general cleaning up and uploaded it as a new file. —Quibik (talk) 12:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Awesome job, guys - can you possibly look at my request above for Woolsey, also? I'll add in the gallery. Thanks again. Connormah 22:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
He was trickier, because there was a lot more noise in this one - in the colour, and there were eyeballs, wisps of hair and other fun stuff behind the watermark which weren't very distinct even in the thumbnail - so I've done the best I can in greyscale...  Begoontalk 05:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
I had another look at this and tried to fix up that pretty awful greyscale attempt. It's still pretty poor, but when I get time I think I may do better from scratch. One for a rainy day.  Begoontalk 17:30, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Volga Oblast


Article(s): Volga Oblast

Request: flatten crease up middle... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:43, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Because this had been here a while now, I had a go. There was a lot of damage around that crease, so it's far from perfect.  Begoontalk 09:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, that's great! Instead of two images, can you overwrite the new one over the old?--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Done  Begoontalk 12:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

First highway centerline


Article(s): Road surface marking, Timeline of United States inventions (1890–1991), Michigan Highway System, M-15 (Michigan highway), sandboxed article on County Road 492.

Request: Ok, let's start over here. I requested, and received, a scanned copy of the photo above. I've also rescanned the photo from the book, Making Michigan Move, which is where I discovered this photo. MDOT's scan from their archives was done at 72dpi, which resulted in 795 × 465 pixels, 175 KB. The scan I just did from the book came out at 3,294 × 1,916 pixels, 16.1 MB. The problem though is that the book was printed in in a weird sepia for the photos and blue for the text. As well, the scanned version from the book has a noticeable moiré pattern. Is there anything that can be done to salvage this photo? The first version has been nominated at WP:FPC, but it's just too low of resolution and garnering opposition left and right. Imzadi 1979  14:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Opinion: You won't really get anywhere with that scan from the book, I don't think. All you have there is a high resolution scan of a low resolution image so all you've done is perfectly captured the halftone screen used by the printer, resulting in "dots the size of golfballs" - hence the moire. Open it in an editor, and zoom in on, say, the power pole in the trees just right of centre until you can see the halftone dots. The dots are 20-25% of the width of the pole. Now do the same with your b/w image and you'll see that even though it isn't very good there is far more detail even in that, without the giant halftone dots. That's because they scanned an original photo. The only way to get more detail is to get a scan done from the photo at higher than 72 dpi - which I think you indicated you can't do. It doesn't matter how well you scan the book, the intermediate step of the printer applying his halftone screen has removed the detail.  Begoontalk 01:40, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Begoon here. The halftoned image is definitely a lower resolution. See, for example my attempt at removing the halftoning (speckle removal + gaussian blur + size reduction). Despite that, your book scan should probably be JPEG compression at a setting of 95, rather than 100. 100 doesn't mean lossless, in most cases it just needlessly increases the file size. gringer (talk) 05:19, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I cleaned up the half-tone that was causing the moiré patterns (and desaturated). I uploaded that version without any additional adjustments in consideration of anyone else interested in improving that image. I also uploaded another version with some quick additional contrast adjustments. Compared to the other scan this image is indeed higher-resolution, but unfortunately absolutely lacks in shadow detail.
For other editors: feel free improve upon the first image. Additional noise reduction and level adjustments will probably be useful. You can overwrite my second image. —Quibik (talk) 13:54, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok - you gave me an idea. I took the original low res image, resized and cropped it to exactly match the cleaned up book scan, then blended the book scan on top of the low res to give it resolution and detail. It's uploaded above. I haven't done any other clean up except for a tiny blur to the book scan to get rid of the last traces of halftone dots. See what you think. It can certainly still be cleaned up a bit, and levels/contrast adjusted. This was more a "proof of concept" before getting into that.  Begoontalk 15:47, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
So is it too late to tell you guys that MDOT got me a 300 dpi TIFF scan off the archived photo? It's been covnerted to PNG and uploaded at File:M-15 centerline 1917-2.png Trust me, when I saw that last version though, I was pleasantly blown away this morning. Imzadi 1979  16:14, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Henry Clay by Mathew Brady


Article(s): Henry Clay

Request: Can one of you wizards bring out the details in this dark daguerreotype by Mathew Brady, while respecting the photographer's original? Many thanks, as always MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! I agree with your decision to leave the scratches in. MarmadukePercy (talk) 10:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done, unless you wanted the scratches removed too; I didn't want to interfere to much with the original work. EWikistTalk 22:32, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Jim Petersen


Article(s): Minnesota Mr. Basketball

Request: Could someone crop Jim Petersen, the guy at the right, from this? ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 22:59, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Here's a crop - what you end up with is quite indistinct, though, and very low res.  Begoontalk 04:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)



Article(s): Armenian

Request: trim off bottom dead space... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done - straightened and cropped  Begoontalk 10:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you again kind sir!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Nicola magazine


Article(s): Nicola magazine

Request: it's not a cricket on her face, it's a scan or upload error. and please remove border. 御疲れ様です. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:02, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done  Begoontalk 13:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Much better, thank you!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Table Tennis


Article(s): Table Tennis

Request: Can somebody fix the spelling of "length"? If you have time, could you also vectorize the image? Thanks so much for your help. Guoguo12--Talk--  16:17, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

How about the existing vector above ?  Begoontalk 16:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Very good, thanks! Could you also change the commas to periods? Sorry, I didn't notice them before. Thank you. Guoguo12--Talk--  17:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Changed - and a blue version in case you prefer that.  Begoontalk 17:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Perfect. Thank you so much; people have been complaining about that picture for years. Guoguo12--Talk--  18:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
No problem. I increased the captions slightly so they are legible at the size you use in the article. (I also fixed the spelling on the old jpg just in case anyone uses it - but it probably should be deleted now)  Begoontalk 06:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)