Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop/Archive/May 2011

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Stale[edit]

Emperor Pedro II of Brazil[edit]

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Article(s): Pedro II of Brazil

Request: Please remove noise on both paintings. Adjust color or brightness on the second one if deemed necessary. The last one (the third, from left to right) is a photograph which I uploaded a newer and improved version. First, if possible, I'd like to see both "columns" of lines that can be seen in the background (they're in fact text from the backpage). Second, upload a .png version of the photo over the image to the right (including with transparent background). Thank you, Lecen (talk) 12:07, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

There is no one willing to take this request? --Lecen (talk) 19:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

RAAF Sabres[edit]

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Article(s): Southeast Asia Treaty Organization and others

Request: Could one of the Pixie dust.png magicians in here please increase the clarity of this image? Thanks! Guoguo12--Talk--  21:49, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by King of Hearts.  Done

Dan Towler[edit]

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
  • NFCC image.svg

Article(s): Dan Towler

Request: Would someone please edit out the signature in this fair use image? Cross posted at Commons:Commons:Graphic_Lab/Photography_workshop#Old_football_picture_for_Dan_Towler. GrapedApe (talk) 02:20, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done: JBarta (talk) 13:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

  • Awesome work! Thanks!--GrapedApe (talk) 15:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

King Zog[edit]

Stale: DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Article(s): King Zog

Request:please fix background and colorise Vinie007 11:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

"Fix" background? Please explain. And why colorize an old B&W photo? Just for gits and shiggles?? Would we be sure to get all the colors right on his uniform? Seems like a whole lot of work for no particular reason. I think the photo is fine just the way it is. JBarta (talk) 14:26, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Resolved[edit]

Theodore Roosevelt shaking hands from a train[edit]

Resolved: Kintetsubuffalo (talk)

Article(s):

Request: This interesting photo seems to have sustained some damage, but wonder if it could be cleaned up a bit? Many thanks. MarmadukePercy (talk) 16:22, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Much improved, as always. MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:32, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: Restored file loaded. PawełMM (talk) 14:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Cloelia[edit]

Resolved: Kintetsubuffalo (talk)

Article(s): Cloelia

Request: cut to round, possibly pngify... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: Done as requested. PawełMM (talk) 06:56, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Want a 2π-unrolled version of our existing π-unrolled animation[edit]

Resolved: Resolved, unless of course if the illustration project sends me back here :-) Kingdon (talk)

Article(s): Radian, Turn (geometry), Perimeter and Circumference

Request: This is a great animation, and this is a request for a (relatively minor) variant of it. The current version shows a circle of diameter one whose circumference is π. In many contexts it would be nice to have a version where the circle has radius one instead (diameter two) and a circumference of 2π. I'd be glad to take this to Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop if desired, but I thought I'd start here since this is a raster image (and as far as I know, we don't have support yet for any form of animated SVG). The new image would not replace the existing one but would have a new name (Twopi-unrolled.gif, I suppose, unless someone has a better idea). Discussion of the mathematics is at File talk:Pi-unrolled-720.gif#Radians and WT:MATH has been consulted (on 23 April 2011). Kingdon (talk) 01:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

This is definitely an illustration request. – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 09:26, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Another simple crop request[edit]

Resolved: Nyttend (talk)

Article(s): Zimmerman Kame, although not in use there yet

Request: The bottom right corner of this image shows part of the wing of the aircraft in which I was flying when I took the photograph. Could you please crop enough of the right side of the photo to get rid of it? Moreover, could you crop out some of the top? The subject of the photo is the kame that's slightly off-center to the bottom left; I'd appreciate it if you could crop the image so that it shows only the area highlighted in the image note plus a buffer zone around the image note. Please upload it under the same filename. Nyttend (talk) 14:29, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done: JBarta (talk) 14:14, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Richard Bryan, Paul Laxalt and Bob Miller[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Richard Bryan, Paul Laxalt and Bob Miller (Nevada governor)

Request: Add missing colors. 75.47.157.75 (talk) 02:00, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Just trying to clarify, are you asking the workshop to colorize these images? The first one I can find on TinEye and appears to be black and white. All three images have sources that link directly to the black and white versions. I'm not sure if these precise images are available in color. – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 03:09, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Done #1 — This is a B&W image after it's been colorized. It's completely speculative; e.g., I don't know what color his hair really is. If this is what you're expecting, I can proceed with the other two. – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 07:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

 Hash-tag2 and #4 completed — working on #3 now. – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 08:28, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 Hash-tag3 done — I used this image as reference. I also found Richard Bryan wearing a similar blue shirt/red tie combo, so I may redo Richard Bryan's images in a moment. Otherwise, this is completed as requested. if you're happy, please place {{resolved}} at the top of this request section. If you need any other changes, just let me know, thanks! – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 09:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Kenny Guinn and Harry Reid[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Kenny Guinn and Harry Reid

Request: Crop. 75.47.135.39 (talk) 08:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Donewill crop Kenny to his own file. Uploaded to new file. Please place {{resolved}} if you're satisfied, thanks! – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 09:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Duke Kahanamoku and Mickey Riley[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Duke Kahanamoku and Mickey Riley

Request: Remove waterwork from the image. Please and thank you!--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done: JBarta (talk) 10:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Kalakaua[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Kalākaua

Request: Please remove scratches and improve quality. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by King of Hearts.  Done

It stills look a little fuzzy and blotchy. Can you edit from the original less cropped revision instead also because there were some part of his uniform and the background that I wanted to keep? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I took a shot at this. Grabbed the hi-res tiff from the Library of Congress and started with that. It's not perfect, but it's presentable. Smoothing out the mottled background seemed to help a lot. As you can see, the right side of his face is nice and clear, but everything else is somewhat blurry and/or faded. I have a feeling that's how the original photograph looked when it was taken. I tried a few different ways to get the rest of the image as clear and crisp as his face, but every attempt just made it worse. Hopefully you'll find it good enough for the article. JBarta (talk) 11:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I love it!--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Chushi Gangdruk[edit]

Resolved: Kintetsubuffalo (talk)

Article(s): Chushi Gangdruk

Request: trim away background and straighten... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done: JBarta (talk) 21:57, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Brilliant, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:46, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

George Charles Beckley[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): George Charles Beckley

Request: Cut away heavy oval border from the first image and remove green line in the second image. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done: JBarta (talk) 22:30, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Mary and Kalakaua[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Kalākaua and Mary Ann Kameehiwa Tressilyan Beckley

Request: Cut away heavy black oval border from the first image and scratches and damages in the second image. Remove green glare in third image.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Hoapili Kaauwai and Kiliwehi[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Hoapili Kaauwai and Kiliwehi

Request: Please remove frame without cropping and upload it over the image on File:Hoapili Kaauwai and Kiliwehi.jpg.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:45, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Looks like File:Hoapili_Kaauwai_and_Kiliwehi.jpg this already exists. – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 23:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes but it cropped and I don't like it. Could you 1. remove the frame from File:Hoapili Kaauwai and Kiliwehi (framed).jpg without cropping and 2. upload it over File:Hoapili Kaauwai and Kiliwehi.jpg.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done: You say "without cropping", but in order to remove the frame it must be cropped. That said, I cropped it minimally just to remove the frame sides. That left the four rounded corners still in the picture. I then filled in the corners and saved it over File:Hoapili Kaauwai and Kiliwehi.jpg. That result is about the best frame removal you're going to get. Hope it works for you. JBarta (talk) 22:49, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Can't it be remove without cropping as File:Theresa Laanui.jpg was?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't understand what you're looking for. Are you looking to make the photo an oval? JBarta (talk) 03:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
KAVEBEAR wants the photo to look like this one. --Lecen (talk) 21:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Ah, I understand now. But that begs the question... why?? It would be exactly the same as File:Hoapili Kaauwai and Kiliwehi.jpg, just with rounded off corners. JBarta (talk) 22:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Forget it. It doesn't look like what I though it would look like, Your version is good.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Paki sisters[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Bernice Pauahi Bishop and Liliuokalani

Request: Two images: one an oval with it's frame removed, upload to the name :File:Paki sisters (frameless).jpg on the commons, and another with it cropped as little as possible but still without the frame, upload to my poorly cropped version here File:Paki sisters.jpg. Tell me if you don't understand. Thanks--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Big ole watermark - maybe better to crop?[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Mona Plummer Aquatic Center

Request: Watermark needs to be removed. Should it just be cropped? Nolelover It's almost football season! 17:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):  Done: To answer your question, cropping is quick and easy and is often the best way to go. However, cropping removes a portion of the image. In this image, there was some detail at the front of the pool that would have been lost. So I took a little extra time and edited out the watermark. JBarta (talk) 19:43, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that was my thought as well. Thanks! Nolelover It's almost football season! 20:45, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Groat[edit]

Resolved: Kintetsubuffalo (talk)

Article(s): Groat

Request: cut away background... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

 Done: Background changed to black. The details are better visible. PawełMM (talk) 17:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

You're right, that is nicer, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:45, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi[edit]

Resolved: Kintetsubuffalo (talk)

File:Saif al-Islam television.jpg


Article(s): Saif al-Islam Gaddafi

Request: crop a second version of this, named File:Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.jpg, without the bottom tv banner, for his bio... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:11, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done: Also removed the green cast from image. I'll let you (or someone else) figure out the appropriate licensing/copyright/fair use/blah blah blah tags to the cropped image. JBarta (talk) 13:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Very shiny, very sparkly! :)--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Four images[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): Kamehameha IV, Queen Emma of Hawaii, Kalawao County, Hawaii

Request: The request are on top. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Image's request under progression Request taken by PawełMM.

Regarding #2... didn't try to "improve quality". Attempts to smooth out the graininess would result in a blurry looking image with lost detail. What people often fail to realize is that the key to a good quality digital version of an old photo starts with a good quality high-resolution scan. Without that, opportunities for improving any old photo are limited. In this case, all we have to work with is a low resolution image from a PDF file that itself was scanned from an old book. All in all, the image as it is, is not all that bad and is perfectly presentable. JBarta (talk) 10:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The grain in that image was very easily removable using Fast Fourier Transform. If you are interested, you could take a look at Wikibooks:GIMP/Remove Coherent Noise and my small how-to. Patterned noise is a very common problem with scanned (halftone) images (Commons:Category:Images containing regular noise), so this is a very useful skill to have. Sadly, at the moment it seems that I am the only editor working on the mentioned category. —Quibik (talk) 14:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the tip. I thought the job you did on Queen Emma below was very good. My only concern about trying to even out some of these old grainy photos is that such attempts (even well done attempts) often introduces a certain amount of blurriness. I hate a blurry photo. At any rate, I have GIMP and I have the FFT plugin and I will play with them a little. I'll practice on Queen Emma ;-) JBarta (talk) 06:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

 Done: Done (files 1, 3 and 4) as requested> PawełMM (talk) 11:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

US 65 at Des Moines River[edit]

Resolved: Thanks again! –Fredddie

Article(s): U.S. Route 65

Request: I took six photos and stitched them together with Hugin. The background scenery seems to have blended well, but there are a couple of skips on the bridge which need to be fixed. I can provide the original photos if necessary, just wiki-email me. Thanks in advance. –Fredddie 14:43, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done: JBarta (talk) 10:28, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Book images[edit]

Resolved

Article(s): multiple

Request: Is there anyway to improve quality of the images, there are weird dots on some of the images. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: Hi, I replaced the File:Drawing of Kamamalu.jpg. What do you think? --Ophelia.summers (talk) 09:39, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

 Note: You can tag images like these with {{CleanFFT}}. They will be taken care of sooner or later. —Quibik (talk) 16:25, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 Done Cleaned up all images except File:Queen Makea of Rarotonga.jpg, which looks OK to me. By the way, please stop upscaling images, unless they are really small. This does not improve them in any way but at the same time makes the filesizes needlessly large. —Quibik (talk) 18:48, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a whole lot. You did an especially good job with Kapiolani's image. Okay, I guess but I believe some of the image needs to be a little bit larger, like File:Funeral Procession of Liliuokalani – Casket (PP-26-8-026).jpg which you have made too small. Can you crop away the signature on Alexander Liholiho's image?
 Done Cropped away the signature.
The Funeral Procession of Liliuokalani - Casket.jpg is one of the images that don't bother me too much when upscaled. But I still don't see much point in doing that as all browsers allow zooming and you can also set the image to an arbitrary size inside an article. Also, if you do upscale any images, I suggest that you at least use a better tool for that, like GIMP. —Quibik (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
How come some of images still look like the same without changes even though the history says they are changed? It looks fine like this but when you go to there file pages File:Drawing of Kamamalu.jpg still has words on background, File:George Tupou II of Tonga.jpg still has the dots, File:Liliuokalani, Beneath Hawaiian Palms and Stars (1900).jpg still looks green, and File:Funeral Procession of Liliuokalani – Casket (PP-26-8-026).jpg is still orange.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:42, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
The old images are stuck in a cache. Occasionally they are stuck in your web browser cache, but most often they are stuck in the Wikimedia server cache. There is supposed to be a remedy for that, but all too often even that doesn't work. I find the only remedy is time... eventually (sometimes taking days) the Wiki system catches up and unflucks itself and the proper images are shown. JBarta (talk) 07:09, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
There have indeed been some quite severe caching issues the last few days. It is somewhat covered in this discussion. In addition to JBarta's suggestions, what seems to work every single time for me is selecting the preview image's link and changing the image width (###px in the address) to something arbitrary (like this). It effectively forces the server to recreate the thumbnail and bypass the cache. —Quibik (talk) 07:53, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
The issue affects more than just the thumbnails, it often affects the actual image. In other words, while the thumbnails may or may not be updated, the actual full size image may not be updated in the server. To add to the confusion, logging in or out of your account sometimes has an effect as well. What image you are served occasionally may depend on whether you are logged in to your account or not. Of course, all of this is largely random and not reliably reproducible... sometimes things work as advertised and sometimes they don't. I've given up on worrying about it and find a wee bit of comfort in the fact that in every case it straightens itself out eventually. JBarta (talk) 08:41, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
One last request. Can there be any improvement on the faces of King Kamehameha IV and Queen Emma, they're a little blurry.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:21, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 Done: An improvement.... more or less. JBarta (talk) 14:13, 26 May 2011 (UTC)