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July 28[edit]

Size of my talk page[edit]

Where can I see what the size of my talk page (in bytes) currently is? --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 04:34, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Just click on the "View history" button, the size of each revision is shown just after the name of user making each edit. Rwessel (talk) 04:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@A guy saved by Jesus: A tool I like to use is Prosesize. Installing the script at User:A guy saved by Jesus/common.js will add a link to the 'Tools' list. Clicking the link on any page will show you the page size, word count, and other interesting stats. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:40, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Formatting help? Anyone who knows about sports...[edit]

I'm making an article on a basketball tournament, and my table comes out like this:

Team Pld W L PF PA PD TB Qualification
 Cuba 5 5 0 449 209 +240 Championship Game
 Dominican Republic 5 3 2 358 368 -10 +6
 Mexico 5 3 2 297 273 24 +5 3rd place game
 Puerto Rico 5 3 2 325 363 -38 -11
 Bahamas 5 1 4 241 335 -94 Eliminated
 Guatemala 5 0 5 246 368 -122

How do I change it so that the ends don't pop out like that? I've never experienced this specific problem. Thanks! Charlie the Pig (talk) 04:53, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Remove the extra cells from the second row of the rowspan cells: —Cryptic 05:15, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Team Pld W L PF PA PD TB Qualification
 Cuba 5 5 0 449 209 +240 Championship Game
 Dominican Republic 5 3 2 358 368 -10 +6
 Mexico 5 3 2 297 273 24 +5 3rd place game
 Puerto Rico 5 3 2 325 363 -38 -11
 Bahamas 5 1 4 241 335 -94 Eliminated
 Guatemala 5 0 5 246 368 -122
Thank you! Charlie the Pig (talk) 13:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

blocked from loging on[edit]

My request for help is about my attempting to login and/or register where I'm greeted with 'you've been blocked' or words to that effect. I would love to know why, hopefully with some specific incident that caused this.

I use Wikipedia daily if not more often and have been doing so for years. Although my style of communicating is very uncensored and I hold strong views, I can't recall ever forcing anyone to agree with my views.

I also can't recall a time when I have submitted an entry or correction of an existing one, without serious credible evidence. Frankly, I'm very surprised to encounter this 'block' and although I can use Wiki without 'logging in', I would love to repair any violations that might have been attributed to me.

I'm presuming my request will be considered by those without social, political or religious biases. I highly value Wikipedia and would love to retain my respect for it; please help! Thankyou, James Preston Thomas (siccarii)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:646:c101:2ae7:11ef:ef4b:327a:465e (talk) 05:39, 28 July 2015‎ (UTC)

As stated in red lettering at the bottom of that message:
If the block notice is unclear, or it does not appear to relate to your actions, please ask for assistance as described at Help:I have been blocked.
We can't tell why you were blocked either unless you at least tell us who was blocked. It's almost the first thing in the message, and appears like "Editing from [somewhere] has been blocked (disabled)..."; we need to know exactly what's shown in place of "[somewhere]". —Cryptic 06:15, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I guess from the end of your post that you are User:James Preston Thomas, User:siccarii and User:siccarii the source but none of those accounts have been blocked and they have a single edit between them so maybe it's about a fourth account. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Also you should understand that if you respond with your username here in this discussion, you will be indirectly revealing the IP address currently associated with your username (and all that goes with it, i.e., geographic location, Internet provider, etc.), since the IP appears above. Some folks are sensitive about such things, and there is otherwise no way for editors (other than selected admins called checkusers) to know this association. I wouldn't describe it as something to fret over, and it may be necessary to do to answer your question, but in the interest of full disclosure you should be aware of it. General Ization Talk 18:51, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Unaccredited institutions[edit]

I was just looking through the List of unaccredited institutions of higher education mentioned above, and see that many of those institutions have Wikipedia articles. Some of those articles mention, quite rightly, that the institution is unaccredited, but many (Adams College, American National University, Anglo-American University just among the As) do not; indeed they have articles that make them look quite impressive. Should all these places be flagged as unaccredited within the lead paragraph? Or does it not matter that much?--Shantavira|feed me 09:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

In my personal view, it does matter, a lot. They should definitely be flagged as unaccredited in the lead. People are being conned into paying money to fake universities, after reading their Wikipedia entries and forming the impression that they are accredited. Maproom (talk) 10:58, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
While I want to agree with Maproom, it is no part of Wikipedia's purpose either to expose anyone, or to warn anyone. If the information is reliably sourced, then it can be added, as an important fact about the institution - but be very careful to make sure that it is properly sourced. --ColinFine (talk) 16:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. It looks like the ANU is properly accredited and I have removed it from the list. I might or might not get around to trawling through all the others.--Shantavira|feed me 07:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Mainspace editcount[edit]

How do I count my mainspace edits? Eat me, I'm a red bean (take a huge bite)i've made a huge mess 10:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Dear Eat me, I'm a red bean, you can use this counter. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 10:55, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Wanted - an editor fluent in Chinese[edit]

To verify the sourcing of a draft currently pending review at AFC - Draft:Huang Jian (sculptor). Please post comments on the draft's talk page if you do not wish or know how to do a full AFC review. Thanks. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Can't help you myself, despite the username, but posting at WT:CHINA would probably net you a response more quickly than here. Yunshui  12:53, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@Dodger67: I am perfectly fluent, and I can assure that if you're asking about the quote it is quite directly translated. I am also a reviewer so perhaps I could help, but what were you planning to do originally? The Average Wikipedian (talk) 12:56, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
By "reviewer" I meant AFC reviewer, sorry for any confusion caused. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 12:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
As for the sources, I may need some time to go through all of them. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 13:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I've declined it because the some sources are not independent. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 13:26, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Search function does not work[edit]

Search function in wikipedia english does not work — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:1812:d30:b900:a419:e44e:8225:6dd3 (talkcontribs)

It works as expected for me. Please describe the perceived problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Got a suspected spamming message[edit]


I have recently been added some links to my DVD and Blu-ray releases of films listed on Wikipedia, and received a warning that it was suspected as spam.

The posts are genuine and were entered manually.

I own Panamint Cinema

Russell Cowe— Preceding unsigned comment added by Panamint Cinema (talkcontribs)

You are very clearly spamming Wikipedia with links to your site. Your username also violates Wikiepdia's username policy. I have blocked your account, since it's clear that your only interest here is in using Wikipedia to promote your business. Yunshui  14:16, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Whoosh!--ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Removing my user page[edit]

Good afternoon,

It appeared to me that I was wrong creating my userpage when first registered on Spanish Wiki. I have recently realised that if I have a userpage on Meta, it is displayed everywhere. Is it possible to delete my userpage? If so, could you please tell me what to do for it.

Thank you in advance!

Takiq (talk) 16:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

@Takiq: Each Wikipedia language works separately and page deletion requires an administrator at the Spanish Wikipedia. It looks like you can request deletion by placing {{Destruir|U1}} on es:Usuario:Takiq. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:32, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter:: Thank you very much indeed for your help. I will do as you have told me.
Thank you! Takiq (talk) 17:46, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Apostrophe in italicized title[edit]

'47 (magazine) has an apostrophe at the beginning of the page title that isn't (visibly) being italicised by {{Italic title}}. Is there a known fix for this? Cheers —jameslucas (" " / +) 16:46, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

You could always try this apostrophe instead: . If that's not enough slant, try this: ׳ (made using wiki code <b><i><sup>׳</sup></i></b>). (Either would requiring renaming the article, by moving it.) StuRat (talk) 16:59, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I appreciate the inventiveness, but I'm leery of replacing a piece of punctuation as fundamental as the apostrophe with either a prime or a geresh. As an American architect I know (to my eternal disdain) that there are many issues rendering prime characters and I can only imagine that support for Hebrew is as bad or worse. If the solution were to be a substitution, I think a right single quotation mark ’ would be the only one I'd feel even semi-okay with. Having said that, I think fixing the rendering without changing the character is the ideal. —jameslucas (" " / +) 17:11, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
You are right that replacing the apostrophe would be bad. I have italicized it with DISPLAYTITLE.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 17:24, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much. Any idea if the lack of effect by {{Italic title}} on the apostrophe is a feature or a bug? —jameslucas (" " / +) 17:40, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Surely a bug/limitation caused by the italics syntax double '' fusing with the initial ' in the name to produce a triple ''' which has another meaning. I have posted to Template talk:Italic title#Doesn't italicize an initial apostrophe. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Edit flagged as promotional[edit]

Hi - I've made edits to the Dyn Wikipdea page Dyn (company). The page had been flagged as promotional. Removed all promotional lingo, cited with third-party references, etc. Now that these changes have been made, I'm wondering if the alert banner at the top can be removed.

Please let me know what I can do to remove. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Choedl (talkcontribs)

For starters, you could avoid removing other's posts on this board. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Corrected link: Dyn (company). It still seems promotional in that it only lists positive things. Hasn't anything negative ever happened there ? (Layoffs, a lawsuit, a discontinued product, a bad review, a quarterly loss ?) StuRat (talk) 17:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I have tagged it as POV, see my comments on the talk page. DES (talk) 17:19, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Ian.thomson I apologize. I'm new to editing and didn't realize I removed your post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choedl (talkcontribs) 18:32, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

how to get assistance in distributing results of 12 years research about what is wrong in american[edit]

I am a novice computer operator. I wish to talk, on secure phone. can you give me a number to call? Hugh Johnston — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 13:18, 28 July 2015‎.

No we can't. Wikipedia does not have any office staff to answer phones, secure or otherwise. This board is answered by volunteers, and open postings here are the only way it works. Responses are not made by telephone or email, as a rule. Nor is Wikipedia a suitable medium for distributijg your views or research about "what is wrong in american" or about anything else, see WP:OR. DES (talk) 17:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

edit count[edit]

When I go to my user contributions and I select Edit Count I see that that my edits are broken down according to type of namespace. (Talk, User space, ect.) The top category, which should be mainspace, or Articles, or something like that, displays these foreign (perhaps Korean) symbols: 일반 문서. What's wrong? -- Naytz (talk) 20:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

There are replies at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#edit count language where you also posted. Please only post in one place. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Offensive and false statements about his wife on Phil_Spencer_(Microsoft) English Article[edit]

Link here: Phil Spencer (Microsoft)

Spencer earned a bachelor's degree from the University of Washington. He lives in Bellevue, Washington, with his wife < obscenity removed > and two daughters.[1]

The Bolded part should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:29, 28 July 2015

Thanks for reporting this; I've removed the vandalism. However, you could have fixed this yourself. Wikipedia is "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit"; just press the "edit" button on a page and you can change its contents. Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 20:32, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
In the case of vandalism it's often better to examine the page history and revert the vandal like Bilorv actually did. Many vandals (not this one) also remove valid content or vandalize multiple parts of the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Just as an FYI, the page should probably moved to a title with a more general disambiguator - usually disambiguators are as general as possible so that if, in this case, he goes to work for another company, pages don't have to be moved again.--ukexpat (talk) 13:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Now moved to Phil Spencer (business executive).--ukexpat (talk) 17:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Editing a page through someone else[edit]

Hi- I'm looking to contact someone who is responsible for editing a page. Is there a way to do this? I do not want to edit the page myself, I would like this other party to make the edits. Is this possible? (talk) 20:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Here on Wikipedia, no one is "responsible" for editing a page. We are all volunteers, and any page may or may not be "adopted" by any editor as a project. If the article you are asking about has been or will be so adopted, you can communicate with those editors and/or make a suggestion for improving the article using the article's Talk page. General Ization Talk 20:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) It is easy to contact another user. For example, if you wanted to contact me, you could leave a message on my talk page. If you wanted to leave a message on Xyzpqr's talk page, you could click on that blue link to my talk page and then replace the "Maproom" by "Xyzpqr" to get to his. But it is not clear to me whether you have a particular user in mind, or just "whoever is responsible" for editing some page. That's not how Wikipedia works: anyone can edit (almost) any page, and people aren't responsible for pages. If you have a suggestion for editing an article, and you don't mind who does the edit, you should leave a message on the article's talk page, there's a "Talk" link right at the top of every article. Maproom (talk) 21:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Creating a wiki page for my company[edit]

I am trying to create a new Wiki page for my consulting firm and cant see how to do so. Please tell me how

You shouldn't write an article because you have a fundamental conflict of interest in doing so. Wikipedia is not a place for promotion. In any event, if the consulting firm has not been the subject of detailed publication in reliable, secondary sources, entirely independent of the consulting firm, then Wikipedia cannot have an article on it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Along with the items that Fuhghettaboutit has mentioned you need to see the policies and guidelines mentioned here WP:ORG. MarnetteD|Talk 23:16, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Article "El Toro High School" Incomplete[edit]

Hello! I do not have a Wikipedia account, but I like to spend time browsing through Wikipedia pages to learn about various topics. I noticed that the page on El Toro High School is missing a few details. First of all, the "Extracurricular Activites" section makes no mention of the regular, chamber, or symphony orchestras. It also makes no mention of the Early College Program (ECP) between ETHS and Irvine Valley College. Finally, the "Awards" section mentions 15 National Merit Finalists but does not indicate that there is a 2015 National Merit Scholar (I don't know if this distinction is important enough to include). I would like to make these changes, or maybe someone else (a registered user) could make these changes. Thank You!— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:08, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

El Toro High School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) here is the link for anyone who wants to look into this. I can say that reliable sourcing is needed for new info to be added. MarnetteD|Talk 23:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@ Hello! You don't need an account to edit (almost all) articles. You can edit the article and include the missing information. But, you should be aware of the Wikipedia's policy on WP:VERIFIABILITY. Every statement added to an article must be supported by a reliable independent source. So, if you want to improve the article, you should first try to find some reliable independent sources (see here to learn what are reliable sources: WP:RELIABLE). Or, you can request a specific edit and provide sources at article's talk page (Talk:El Toro High School) and wait for somebody else to make the edit. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
75.25, as said above you don't need a Wikipedia account to make any of these changes. However an account can be very helpful. It gives you a consistent talk page, lets you have a watchlist to monitor pages you are interested in, protects your IP address from public view, and helps people to recall you from one encounter to another. It is also free, and there are other benefits.
Vanjagenije, pings don't work when the recipient is not logged in. See WP:Notification Wikipedia:Notifications. DES (talk) 23:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
@DESiegel: Oh, thanks for pointing that! I've never thought about that. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
There's no such thing as a "complete" article on Wikipedia. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 23:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

July 29[edit]

Referencing errors on Kalecik, Ankara[edit]

Reference help requested.

Sorry, but I cannot detect the error. --CeeGee 05:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, CeeGee 05:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@CeeGee: You were using <ref name="foo"/> but the full reference was tucked away inside the reflist template. Dismas|(talk) 05:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
.*@Dismas: I do that way all the ttime. Pls have a look at Kırklareli Museum#References. I don't understand the difference. Is it the section header "Notes" and "References", which causes the error? --CeeGee 05:59, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah, I see now. Take a look at this version. You had the same reference both in the Notes section (within the reflist template) and then it was repeated in the References section as well. So the tag up in the text was probably confused as to which to use, the one in Notes or the one in References. Dismas|(talk) 07:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Adding content to an existing page[edit]

Hello I'm totally new here. I want to add a paragraph under a new heading on an existing page on here as vital content/history is missing and I have it to add. How do I go about this please without disturbing anything else written on there? Also, can I paste my content directly onto the page after having written it on WORD in my own time? Many thanks, Niki Mylonas — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:16, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Niki. You can add a new section by putting the title between paired equals signs ('=') on a line by itself - the more pairs of equals signs, the deeper level of nesting. You can paste the text from Word, but it will not necessarily preserve the formatting: in Wikipedia, most formatting is expressed by special characters you insert in and around the text. see Help:Cheatsheet for examples. Please also note that Wikipedia requires that all information be referenced to reliable published sources: you should find a published source to cite for what you are adding, and if you cannot find one, don't add the text. See referencing for beginners for how to cite sources. Alternatively, if you don't feel up to adding the sources, or if you think there must be sources but you haven't found them, you could post your text on the article's talk page, with a request for somebody to help you find sources and make the edit. --ColinFine (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Objectively speaking, the Gamergate controversy page has incorrect & biased info[edit]

Archiving - nothing constructive to be gained by discussing this ad nauseam.--ukexpat (talk) 17:17, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Gamergate controversy

Twitter's 3rd party feminist group known as WAM! (women, action, media) did an exhaustive analysis of #GamerGate and determined it was NOT about harassment.

So the entire first paragraph about Gamergate is factually wrong and misleading and should be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:15, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

One source of undetermined reliability is not enough to change the lead. Maybe it's something that can be mentioned with appropriate weight elsewhere...--ukexpat (talk) 14:19, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee did an exhaustive analysis of #GamerGate and determined that it WAS about harassment. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
There have been numerous campaigns of off-wiki coordination to change the GamerGate article to state that it is not about harassment but about journalistic ethics. As long as these off-wiki coordination campaigns continue, the article is not likely to be changed, and the editors who complain about it have no one to blame but themselves. As long as there are off-wiki campaigns, changes by new editors will continue to be seen as coordinated attacks. My suggestion is that ALL off-wiki coordinated campaigns to change the article should be suspended for TWELVE MONTHS. This won't happen. The editors who want to rewrite the article will continue to try to coordinate off-wiki, and will continue to be seen coordinating off-wiki, and they have no one to blame but themselves. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Help Page About Infobox Images[edit]

I am trying to mediate a discussion about images to display for an article. Can someone please provide me with information about how to provide a link to an image (in particular, in an infobox)? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:00, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I am afraid it depends on the infobox - some require the full wikilink syntax (with [[]], size parameters etc) others require just the file name, with image size and caption as separate ibox parameters. Which aspect of image use is under mediation?--ukexpat (talk) 16:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
There's Help:Infobox picture, but that's only about displaying an image, not linking to an image. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:35, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
If I'm understanding the question correctly, links to images usually just have a colon before them (like links to categories), so [[:File:Example.svg]] produces File:Example.svg. In an infobox, you might have to omit the [[]], or you might not need to. Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 16:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
But why would you want to display just the link and not the image in an infobox? I can understand why you would on a page like the Help Desk, but not in an article...--ukexpat (talk) 17:15, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Actually, what I want to do is to display two or three images on an article talk page in an RFC on which of the images to use in the article infobox. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:02, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
In that case, either add them as thumbnails (just as you would in an article) or if you have several, maybe use the <gallery> tags (see User:Yunshui/Images for beginners if you don't already know how to do this). Yunshui  11:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Or {{Multiple image}}.--ukexpat (talk) 14:18, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Locating a Book[edit]

I just created a book in Wikipedia. I saved it with my id/Book/user. Now I can't figure out how to get back to it so I can continue to create my travel log. Any suggestions on how to find again? Or do I have to start all over?GLipsig (talk) 15:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)gl15:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)15:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)~~

Hi @GLipsig: You can always view your contributions at Special:Contributions/GLipsig (which includes books you've created). Looks like your book is at User:GLipsig/Books/Paris to Normandy. You can access your contributions in the future by clicking the "Contributions" link at the very upper-right of each page. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 15:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Other opinions needed[edit]

The long list at Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990#External links looks rather like an overgrown linkfarm to me, but I'm hesitant to just start weeding it by myself, so I'd appreciate some opinions about which of the links can sensibly be deleted. I've listed my proposed removals on the article talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text[edit]

On the Gerald Mohr page, I have attempted to put the IMDb reference to "Wild West Story" in the relevant place in the text as there had been a request to do so, but have been unable to add it successfully. "Wild West Story"'s IMDb page ref. is Addition of reference to "Wild West Story" in Gerald Mohr page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wood200 (talkcontribs) 18:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I added reference. Ruslik_Zero 19:49, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Finding the Book I started recently[edit]

I thought I had started a book per the directions I read not too long ago (within a couple weeks I believe). I would like to know how to find those pages I thought were saved in some area as a long term effort to create a personal book. My apologies if I have overlooked the answer or if it is very easy to accomplish what my question asks without help. I am very new to this and have not had any experience less reading some articles in the past. Sincerely Mike Chopins11thfinger (talk) 19:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@Chopins11thfinger: Your account was created seven days ago and has not saved any books. When using the book creator tool there is a link at top of pages saying "Show book". That leads to a page which includes a "Save book" button. The button may be greyed out until you choose a storage location for your book. If a book isn't saved then it's likely to be lost between sessions. If you have saved a book then you can find it by clicking "Contributions" at the top right of any page when you are logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:10, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

printing omission problem 42nd Canadian federal election from Wiki Re Green Party Ontario Wellington/Halton Hills candidate[edit]

Hello, There was a printing omission problem on the site: 42nd Canadian federal election from Wiki Re Green Party Ontario Wellington/Halton Hills candidate page (my computer shows pg 11-12 on legal sized paper)- that being that the candidate name does not appear in the print outs however does clearly show up on the live screen. Lost between pg 11 and 12? This person does not show up so I was able to notice when I double checked the paper copies.

Please correct the glitch.

Thank you. H. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, H. It would help if you would clearly indicate which Wikipedia article you are talking about: I can't tell where the name of the article begins and ends in your question. In fact, if you put the exact name of the article (including any punctuation and capital letters) between double square brackets, it not only makes it clear which article you are talking about, but also automatically gives us a link to that article. For example [[Green Party]] displays as Green Party. (No, I realise that's not the page you're talking about: I just gave it as an example). --ColinFine (talk) 22:24, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
There is no mention of Halton Hills in 42nd Canadian federal election. Do you mean Results by riding of the Canadian federal election, 2015 where Wellington—Halton Hills is at the end of Results by riding of the Canadian federal election, 2015#Midwestern Ontario? Where it appears in a print will depend on printer, paper and settings. It's not like a PDF where pages are defined in the document. If one or a few lines is missing between pages then check that your printer settings match your paper size, and the margin settings aren't smaller than the printer can handle. Your browser probably also has a print preview option before printing. If something is missing in print preview then it will probably also be missing in the actual print. If it's near a margin in print preview then it might disappear in a print in some situations. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
If you just want a full print of that one table then you can print Template:Canadian federal election, 2015/on-mw. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:44, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Infobox picture is huge[edit]

I have updated the page for my company SABIA, Inc. I updated the company logo in the infobox area, but despite the fact that the jpeg is 693 X 693, the infobox is giant. I am very new at this, so if you could give me details about how to fix this, I would be very grateful.

Thank you.

SABIA, Inc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabia inc (talkcontribs) 20:25, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

It appears that the image has been updated. However, there is a problem with your user ID, which is the same as the company. You should probably request a change in user ID so that it is not blocked as a promotional account. Also, although your edit was all right, in general you should not be editing the article as such, due to conflict of interest. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Zeeshan haider[edit]

I've created a page with name Zeeshan haider and its deleted can you please tell me how can i recover that Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shani302 (talkcontribs) 21:45, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@Shani302: Zeeshan haider was deleted for not indicating why the person is important; why they should have an article. If you ask NawlinWiki, the admin who deleted it, then maybe he/she will restore it in draft space at Draft:Zeeshan Haider so that you can continue to work on it. In order for it to be acceptable you must make sure you tell why Zeeshan Haider is important and back it up with reliable published sources. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:53, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

July 30[edit] Wikipedia Page[edit]

To Whom It May Concern,

The person who originally generated the Wikipedia page is no longer with our company. Our company would like to revamp the entire content on the Wikipedia page. I have created the new content with references but am unable to upload it. Is it possible for me to send you the new content and you upload it for us?

Kind Regards, Anita Tejwani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nityalaxmi (talkcontribs) 09:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Title link fixed - X201 (talk) 09:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Nityalaxmi: If you are thinking that you can't do so because of your conflict of interest, then you could suggest adding the content on the article's talk page. However, please provide references to support your modifications. Additionally, it is not for the company to decide what the volunteers on Wikipedia do to the page, since the company itself does not own any relevant content. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 10:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
@Nityalaxmi: Also, please do not submit a draft since there is an existing article under the same name of the same subject. Thank you. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 10:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Ines van den Born[edit]

Hello, Will you please be so kind to remove this information? it is about me and I dont want to be in Wikipedia. Ines van den Born Thanks. InesInes Gloves (talk) 09:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Ines van den Born seems to have been quickly deleted for containing inappropriate promotional content. However, please note that subject of a Wikipedia page does not own it and the subject's consent is not required for a notable page to exist. Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 11:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

User:Dthomsen8 page help[edit]

I redid the beginning of my User:Dthomsen8 page, but the information about me begins way down the page, instead of the beginning. How do I fix this annoying problem?--DThomsen8 (talk) 12:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

If you were asking why your user boxes didn't appear at the top of the page, does this small edit make it look better? - David Biddulph (talk) 12:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you, David.--DThomsen8 (talk) 12:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Changing a title to an article[edit]


I recently started creating my first article. I selected a title name and begun working on the article. I've since decided to change the title of the article. However, I don't seem to be able to do so.

Is there a way of changing the title?? Or must I start a completely new article?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSRed2015 (talkcontribs) 13:13, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

The process is to move the article, but you won't be able to do it yourself because your account is not yet autoconfirmed, but if you ask, someone else can move it for you. You should take note of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies). I'm glad to see that you've changed your user name, but you also need to read about conflict of interest. Much of the content of Draft:Red Recruit Ltd is inappropriate for an encyclopedia, and what does remain needs to be supported by references to published reliable sources independent of the organisation. If the organisation hasn't received significant mention in such independent reliable sources, it isn't a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I will look into all of this. A number of areas have already been removed. - JSRed2015 — Preceding undated comment added 15:50, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

oral history, recorded by Imperial War Museum - source selection.[edit]

I am beginning to think that some of the oral history that was recorded by the Imperial War Museum would be a useful source for articles such as The March (1945). These are available on-line through the museum's website. Clearly, though, these recordings are primary sources - and it is clear to me that their quality varies (there is one made by Archibald Bentley Beauman who has written a very readable book called "Then a Soldier" which is cited by other historians in their recent works - but, sadly, it seems that when the IWM made its recordings, age had caught up with this old soldier and he had to answer "I don't remember" to many questions.) Using some judgement, especially where several recordings confirm one fact, I would be comfortable with using as a reference.

Two questions:

Is my attitude to these primary sources OK?

How should one cite one of these oral history references?ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 13:16, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

{{Cite interview}}?--ukexpat (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Mercury (element) revision history wierdness[edit]

I went to look at the revision history for Mercury (element) and clicked on the earliest revision which is . However when I bring up that revision, and click on the previous diff, it brings up which has the *older* revision in 2010 and the *newer* one in 2001! What's broken?Naraht (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I see the same thing, so it's not just your account. StuRat (talk) 17:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Is it something to do with the history merge? DuncanHill (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
The same thing happens with our Iron article. I suspect that it may be due to the fact that these are some of our earliest articles, and at the time they were created, the system didn't keep proper histories. In both articles, the 'first' article in the history is indicated as being a deletion of characters, rather than an addition. Clearly not possible. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
I've seen this happen for many articles which are very very old. I also don't know why that happens. Supdiop (Talk🔹Contribs) 17:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
This problem occurs when early edits are imported from places like the Nostalgia Wikipedia (see User:Graham87/Import). Basically every edit has a revision ID number, which is the number at the end of the URL for a permalink (e.g. 342432610 in the mercury example above). When an edit gets imported, it gets a new revision ID number that is higher than any other edit in the database. The problem is that the previous/next revision links (as well as the system that determines the byte differences in the page history) order the edits by revision ID, not date; this is filed as T4930 in Phabricator, MediaWiki's bug-tracking system. Graham87 01:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC)


Please tell me how I can help edit Wiki pages by searching topics I am familiar with. For Example - I travel to Bangladesh often. I have expertise I can lend to pages about Bangladesh, it's people, culture and food. How can I easily find those pages that I might be able to contribute my editing expertise to by topic? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlessingBasket (talkcontribs) 17:48, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Bangladesh and the articles referenced there.

Re: I do not know how to add to a page correctly[edit]

I would like to update the "oldest dog" page. There is a list of the 18 oldest dogs according to Guinness...but it needs to be updated with the information about my dog.

My Rat Terrier...Jake...just passed away last Monday at age 21 years 6 days. This would put him at 12th on the list. He lived from July 21, 1994 until July 27, 2015. We are from Davenport, Iowa, USA.

Guinness has all of Jake's vet records, boarding records, affidavits, photos, etc currently on file as I had submitted him for the "oldest dog-living" record (a new record Guinness was starting)when he was 20. While they were processing the paperwork the experts decided to change the record to age 21. Guinness held all of the materials I had sent to London and I had just updated everything on Jake's 21st birthday. My contact person at Guinness is Victoria Tweedy. She can verify all of this.

Please add my Jake to the list...he deserves to be on it and it would be a lasting tribute to my dear little dog who was my whole world.

Ron "Toto "Johnson — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:40, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello. He might deserve to be on a list published by a secondary reliable source, but only then could Wikipedia include it on one of its list. We are an encyclopedia, which by its very nature (a tertiary source) is never the place to announce new things; we always follow behind other types of sources because of what we are. We include what is already public knowledge out in the world. In sum, this should not and will not be added now, but in the event a reliable source like Guinness publishes material on this, it might be appropriate to add it then, citing to an outside source to verify its addition.Fuhghettaboutit (talk) --23:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Has Guinness finished reviewing and added him to their records? Once it is published and verifiable on their website or books, it can be added. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 22:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Map Image Use[edit]

Hi, We are publishing a book about adventures around the Pacific Ocean and would like to use a map in the book which is on your page under 'Polynesia' . Are we allowed to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:43, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Short answer: Yes, so long as you follow certain rules, which are spelled out at this page about reusing Wikipedia content. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 23:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
If you're referring to either of the two maps at the very top of the article, then they are both released into the public domain which means that anyone can use them for any purpose without having to get permission from anyone. Dismas|(talk) 23:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

July 31[edit]

Image size question[edit]

I have posted a Request for Comments as to which of two image montages to use for the city of Melbourne, Australia. I tried to have the images both display in the same way. However, at Talk: Melbourne, one of the images displays as full-width, completely across the talk page, and the other displays as half-width. The first question is whether I have done something wrong, and, if so, what. The second question, which would take care of the first, is if someone can fix the image size on the talk page. You are of course also welcome to !vote on the image question. I am neutral because I was the dispute resolution noticeboard moderator. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:32, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I made them look same by adding 590 px to the code. You can change the size by increasing and decreasing the number. Supdiop (Talk🔹Contribs) 05:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:41, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Mundane #1: Donations[edit]

Is there a record of my donations? If so, how/where do I find it? How do I know there's an answer to my questions posted, and how do I find the post?


PS: Thanks for the help and sorry about the depth and width of my ignorance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metalsmyth (talkcontribs) 05:00, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Do you mean cash donations to the Wikimedia Foundation, which operates Wikipedia; or do you mean contributions to the contents of this and other Wikipedias? --Orange Mike | Talk 14:59, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

How about holding the authority control data by wikidata and remove the Authority control templates[edit]

Hi. I am now running a robot trying to add {{Authority control}} to every zhwiki page that has the authority control data. I think it is better display it as interwiki language links instead of adding a template, but I am not sure if the idea is reasonable. How about showing the authority control data like the language links displayed in the left block, and remove all authority control templates?

If we should add the Authority control template; in my case, there're too many pages to check. I can only get 50 pages once time. (See zh:User:cewbot/log/20150109.) It will take one month to check and add all the pages. Are there any other ideas to improve the situation, or help me to resolve the problem? Thank you all. --Kanashimi (talk) 07:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm too ignorant of such things to even be sure that I understand the problem, but I know that KasparBot has recently been working to integrate authority control on en.wp and Wikidata. If you contact the bot's operator, T.seppelt, perhaps he can have the bot help you out on zh.wp. Deor (talk) 13:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Wording: age versus aged[edit]

Not sure where to post this, so I ended up here. In many (all?) of those age/date templates, it will result in a statement such as "aged 25" or "aged 99". That wording seems unnatural and affected. Shouldn't the better wording be "age 25" or "age 99"? Where is the best place to deal with this issue of semantics? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:32, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

It should only say aged for deceased people. Have you seen aged with living people? {{Death date and age}} has 166000 transclusions so the place to discuss would be Template talk:Death date and age. Note it has been suggested several times in the archives. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:07, 31 July 2015 (UTC)