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February 12[edit]

New York Bridges[edit]

Hi! I have contacted you folks many times before and have made many important corrections on some pages. I have also been to a few NY Wikipedia meetings in NYC. I have been working on a Coffee table book on New York's bridges for the last 26 years. Can I use some of the information from Wikipedia even if I use some information word for word? I do have Engineer Friends who have made corrections but I will gladly give credit to Wikipedia in my book. Will this be okay? Thank you, Dave Frieder. PS. You folks have used some of my bridge photos in a few of your Bridge information sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grillage 2 (talkcontribs) 00:30, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

@Grillage 2:Yes, you may reuse the text if you provide the required attribution. See WP:REUSE. RudolfRed (talk) 00:40, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Bug in rater tool[edit]

How do I report a bug in the "rater" tool?--Dthomsen8 (talk) 03:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

I would try reporting it at User talk:Evad37/rater.js. --Gronk Oz (talk) 06:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Michael Greenhow[edit]

Ref I and 10 are from the same source - they should therefore be the same but with a quote for number 10. Can you help I can not do it at the college here. Thankyou in advance. Srbernadette (talk) 03:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Well, it's like this because you added the same source without proper attribution to the original citation. Please read WP:REFNAME and learn to do it yourself from hereon. Thanks, Lourdes 04:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

"Add this page to your watchlist?"[edit]

I have just added a few pages to my watchlist. I have done this for years, and usually I just get a pop-up saying that the page has been added. Today, for the first time in years, in some of the cases, I have been asked "Add this page to your watchlist?" and I have to click "OK". It seems to be random - sometimes I am asked, sometimes not.

BTW, this is a pretty crazy feature. I can understand when I am asked whether I am sure that I want to do an irreversible thing like delete a file. But an article put on a watchlist erroneously can easily be removed, and demanding an additional click (plus mouse movement) in this case is just bad user interface design. I got those questions a few years ago, but it was reproducible: the question came every time I wanted to add an article.

Any idea what is going on? Why the random question-or-not? --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:02, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

It seems to article-specific. Adding William C. Conway will bring forth the question. Adding Clive Culbertson will not. --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
@Hob Gadling: None of the two pages display any question to me, just a "Have been added"/"have been removed" message, both in Chrome 71.0 and in IE 11.523 on Win10. --CiaPan (talk) 06:48, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. I use Firefox 65.0. But now I don't get the question anymore either, with Firefox or Chrome. Weird. I reproduced it three times earlier. Forget I asked. --Hob Gadling (talk) 10:28, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
I figure it has something to do with JavaScript not loading. With JS turned off, if I recall correctly, you'll get it every time. Eman235/talk 22:42, 15 February 2019 (UTC)


Please delete my page .I want to leave Wikipedia. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Bongane Tebo (talkcontribs)

Your deletion request on your user page was malformatted, but I have corrected the syntax for you. Good-bye. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Image not loading[edit]

Hi! There seems to be a problem with File:Bob_Keeshan_1995.jpg, used in Bob Keeshan. It does not load for some people. Yesterday no pictures on Wikipedia would load for me, but the bug went away on its own after a few minutes. Now it loads for me, but not for some other users. Do you see it? What is the matter here? Surtsicna (talk) 12:21, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Users who can't see it should clear their browser's cache. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Archive box[edit]

How do I fix the archive box at Talk:2018–19 United States federal government shutdown so that it links to Talk:2018–19 United States federal government shutdown/Archives/2019/January? Please {{ping}} me when you reply. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: The parameter requires a full or relative page name. A relative name for a subpage can start with a slash. The link can be piped. I wrote [[/Archives/2019/January|2019/January]].[1] The archive template could also change to {{MonthlyArchive}} to automate the archive links for that naming format. This would work (after I updated the template to 2019 [2]): {{MonthlyArchive |root=Talk:2018–19 United States federal government shutdown/Archives |startyear=2019 |monthformat=name}}. However, the article is of a type where activity will quickly die down so monthly archives (not chosen by you) was a poor idea where future archives will often have a single section. Most months will have no sections but then the bot omits creating an archive. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
I have changed it to use numbered archives before we end up with a bunch of tiny fragmented archives. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:24, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


How do I unsubscribe this site? Not sure how it got on my fire tablet but comes up each time I use my duckduckg to get online. Would appreciate any help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

You are not subscribed to this site. The Fire browser and DucKDuckGo have algorithms that select the "most recently used" shortcuts that tey display to you. We ave no control over those algorithms. Use your search engine to look for how to modify the behaviour. -Arch dude (talk) 16:11, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Reliable source[edit]

Hi, would the Watchtower Online Library be considered a reliable source? An editor has added Adolf Hitler to the article Antichrist and cited - the Watchtower article says that the acts of Hitler "convinced many that he was the antichrist" without saying who the "many" were and no sources are cited. Is it safe to revert the edit for unreliable source? the Jehovah's Witnesses are an established religion and wasn't sure if this made their statement authoritative - Epinoia (talk) 15:48, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Since that article's anonymous and writes based on nothing but the Bible (which obviously doesn't speak to whether Hitler convinced people that he was the antichrist), that claim is entirely un-backed up. Your typical church-affiliated general interest periodical (as opposed to a church-affiliated journal of theology, a church-affiliated journal of church history, etc.) will often contain "side" bits that aren't reviewed and aren't intended to be reliable, and even if the periodical is reviewed for agreement with the theology of the parent church, such comments likely won't get comparable attention because that's not the primary focus. Since this is the main mouthpiece of the WTBTS of Pennsylvania, we can assume that any theological statements (e.g. "Today there are, not one, but many antichrists who form the antichrist class") will be in accordance with JW beliefs, but presumably JWs do not necessarily believe that Hitler convinced lots of people that he was the antichrist. Think of it this way: if someone went to the elders of his Kingdom Hall and said "I read that article in the Watchtower, but I don't think that Hitler convinced many people that he was the antichrist", would they impose on him some sort of church discipline merely for holding such a position? Unless the Society holds that their magazine is inerrant, or somehow they've taken a position on this precise question, we can't use this article as a source for anyone except the author(s) believing that people believed that Hitler was the antichrist. Nyttend (talk) 00:27, 13 February 2019 (UTC)



I fixed the Bonetti Kozerski page to the changes that had been asked to be made. I hit "publish changes" on Jan. 22, 2019. I logged back into today to see if the wikipage for Bonetti Kozerski Architecture has finally been approved and published or not. But I still see it under drafts. When will it be up for review so we can see if it will be public?

Thank you, Bonetti Kozerski — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sillaro Valley (talkcontribs) 15:58, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

In this edit when you removed the part labelled with "Do not remove this line!" you removed the resubmit button. I have reinstated it so that you can resubmit for review. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
I see that you have signed yourself as "Bonetti Kozerski" so you need to read about conflict of interest and make the mandatory declation of paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:08, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

how to change info about a living person without online publishing[edit]

How would someone update a page about a living person's marital status without online published documentation. The person in question is trying to change their reference to have this changed however in my experience not many people publish something when they get divorced so it is hard to show a reliable source. However the person is alive and would like to see this changed. Is there a way? Or do they just need to learn to live with it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maderaj (talkcontribs) 18:31, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Maderaj, You can get Physical proof, or just have said person release a small statement about it. Something like a court document or note on their blog or website. Their word is enough, but they need to write down their word so we know it is from them. WelpThatWorked (talk) 18:36, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure that WelpThatWorked's advice is correct, Maderaj: all information in Wikipedia articles (without exception) must come from published sources: court documents do not usually meet that description, and nor in most cases do blogs. I think the best thing is to point the person to AUTOPROB. --ColinFine (talk) 22:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Eh? I can't find it right now but I recall there being something that said that we could cite the subject's own web site or social media account if it's a mundane fact about the person such as where they were born and if they're married. Just not potentially controversial information. †dismas†|(talk) 22:48, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Yep, WP:BLPSPS would apply here. If the subject writes on their own blog or social media that they're divorced, then I would think that it falls under the non-controversial information that this guideline mentions. †dismas†|(talk) 23:28, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
The OP asked if an online source is needed. To that the answer is no; a published reliable source is needed, but it need not be online. —teb728 t c 01:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Sister project links[edit]

I would like to draw attention to this inquiry by Czar, since I was looking for the same thing with respect to the transclusion in that section. Additionally, I wanted to ask why exactly it says "Do not place this template in a section containing columns." here.--Hildeoc (talk) 20:25, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

How to help people get into Wikipedia[edit]

OK, let me start. I first joined Wikipedia nearly 15 years ago. Since then I've dabbled with helping Wikipedia, Wikimedia, Wikidata etc. During that time I've had more battles than successes. I started a page today and almost as soon as I finished it, the page was marked for deletion. This isn't the first time this has happened. I've had pages deleted, arguments about information which I know were correct as I know the person the article was about. I had a project linking wikidata with wikipedia and wikimedia dashed. I've have numerous changes undone as some decided that they didn't like the way I was categorizing images on Wikimedaia. I've even had Wikimedia photos deleted. And then the issues today has made me feel, why do I bother? I love wikipedia and support its aims but I seems to be taking two steps back to every step forward. I'm sure I'm not alone in this. So my question is, how can we help new people get into Wikipedia. Can we do something to encourage people and let them see that they can benefit Wikipedia. Make a contribution that is meaningful. Otherwise there will be people like me who wants to help, wants to contribute and wants to make Wikipedia/Wikimedia/Wikidata better lost to the Wiki community forever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkymasterUK (talkcontribs) 22:12, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

It is an issue, SkymasterUK, and one that has been much talked about. I know that the Teahouse is intended as part of the answer. So, too is the AFC process and Draft: space (precisely to avoid the experience you had today). But I don't know that there is a general answer. --ColinFine (talk) 22:48, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
@ColinFine:. Thanks for the reply. I will be looking at Teahouse and AFC. What is Draft Space and how do I get to it.
@SkymasterUK: Regarding "arguments about information which I know were correct as I know the person the article was about". Wikipedia articles cannot be based on your personal information, the information must come from published reliable sources. See WP:RS for more on that. RudolfRed (talk) 23:12, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
@SkymasterUK: fixing ping. RudolfRed (talk) 23:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
@RudolfRed: Well there was the issue, the other person didn't have reliable source. They knew the persons mother had been married before just assumed that the first husband was the father of the child. In fact the child was born before the mother had met the her first husband and so had another person as their father.. Managed to solve it by using Birth records.
@SkymasterUK: Wikipedia has evolved into a much bigger and busier place, and some of our methods of collaboration have changed with also, for good or ill, with over a 100,000 active editors in any given 30-day period. It is now quite difficult to collaborate on new article in main space, so we no longer encourage that method of operation. Instead, build a new article in draft space and ask ask for a review there. In my opinion, the perceived drop in the level of civility is primarily a completely understandable subconscious reaction by some of our best high-volume editors, who are trying to maintain overall high quality in the face of a deluge of garbage. Sometimes a good but somewhat flawed contribution will be mistaken for more garbage. -Arch dude (talk) 03:16, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
@Arch dude: I do think that the level of civility has dropped in Wikipedia. People do forget that we all started somewhere and has to learn over time. So I'm glad you all replied to me and was able to have a conversation about Wikipedia rather than the robotic nature of some people.

February 13[edit]

Pho Keene Great[edit]

Pho Keene Great is a French & Vietnamese Bar & Restaurant, located in Keene, New Hampshire, United States. They garnered international attention when the Keene City Manger requested that they remove their temporary, internal, window sign citing that their business name was offensive name and that there were possible violation of city code.

The issue became viral when the owners of Pho Keene Great,posted an informal survey on their Facebook page asking whether their business name was offensive or not. They had approximately 97 percent of the respondents or 3400 people voting that it was not an offensive name and 117 people 3 percent, citing that it was offensive and that the sign with their business name not be allowed.

The owners of the business initiated a social media campaign and won the battle with strong support in the United States and from several countries abroad. Keene City Managers succumbed to the public pressure and admonishment.

More information pending research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhoKeeneGreat (talkcontribs) 03:35, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

The OP has been blocked for promotional username. —teb728 t c 09:36, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Upload image[edit]

Hello, I do not want to make an account. Could someone please upload the logo mentioned [3] here for me? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:39, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

The place for such requests is WP:Files for upload. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:50, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, I searched but i didn't know where to look. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:54, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Assistance from native English speakers[edit]

In the Robin Williams image in the Aladdin article, which caption is grammatically correct, "Initially, Robin Williams voiced Genie under the condition that his voice is not used for excessive marketing or merchandising." or "Initially, Robin Williams voiced Genie under the condition that his voice not be used for excessive marketing or merchandising."? Musicfan122 (talk) 09:02, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Musicfan122 the second. —teb728 t c 09:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Musicfan122 (talk) 09:14, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Musicfan122; if you want a little background reading on this, see subjunctive mood and English subjunctive. Sentence #1 uses the indicative mood where the subjunctive is needed; it's like saying "If he was going to do X", since "If he were going to do X" is the correct way to say it. Nyttend (talk) 23:33, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

wikipedia search and download[edit]

Sir hum Wikipedia pe jo bhi search karti hai usse hame print nikalne ke liye text ko copy karna padta hai aap se request hai text ko copy karne ki baje us tax ki PDF file download kar sake — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sushantpremee (talkcontribs) 13:10, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. Writing in English will give you more responses. Britmax (talk) 13:14, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) This is the help desk for the English language Wikipedia; questions should be asked in English. If you are looking for a Wikipedia in another language, they are listed at meta:List of Wikipedias. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


Hello, I recently got asked to comment on the topic of timelines after another user had one they'd created moved to the draft space on the argument that it was a fork, so I was wondering if there are any guidelines for creating timelines (such as this one? Are they regarded as forks, or do they compliment an existing article? When and where should they be created and when and where should they be avoided? Can anyone help? Cheers in advance, This is Paul (talk) 13:53, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

I'd say your best bet is WP:LISTN. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 15:16, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
ok cheers. This is Paul (talk) 15:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

I have a question to WP:SPLIT, but is this too soon?[edit]

When visiting a page/ article. One part was WP:SPLIT, but as you look at the total size. Is it too soon to split it? If the size was between 20 to 22? And it cuts about 5 on the main page to it's t.v. show's list? I don't know if it's too soon to do that yet? Or leave it be? Tainted-wingsz (talk) 14:48, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

20 or 22 kB rps is too small to split on size concerns alone per WP:SIZERULE. There may or may not be other reasons to split, but size isn't an issue. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 15:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Oh? O.k. At first, I thought not all episode summaries are written in. But if only one was, out of 13 episodes, etc. Then it splits away out to a different page/ article and it sticks out for a time. Then I started to think about it earlier ago. And soon the rest of the episode summaries are blank. Then do you put it back on the main page or wait and see if its written later on? Tainted-wingsz (talk) 16:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
@Tainted-wingsz: You could probably ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga. It's likely that they've had similar situations before. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 04:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

"Jewish-American" on calendar pages[edit]

I've been seeing "Jewish-American" on calendar pages. Is this new or have I just not noticed it before? --Stuartkau (talk) 15:33, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Stuartkau: Please give an example page of what you refer to. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:27, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

1881 – Eleanor Farjeon, Jewish-English author, poet, and playwright (d. 1965) on (talk) 02:08, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@Stuartkau: So you are referring to date pages where listed people are described as Jewish-American (or Jewish-English in your example). "Jewish-" was added to the example two years ago by Asarelah.[4] The search insource:/Jewish-/ incategory:"Days of the year" finds 26 date pages saying Jewish-something. I don't know whether it has become more common. WP:ETHNICITY says: "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability". I would also have applied this to a one-line listing which is much shorter than a lead. It could be discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:05, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
If it goes against rules and you want to remove it, I have no objection. I just thought it was useful for things like ethnic studies. Asarelah (talk) 13:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Just looked at February 15th page and there are 6 Jewish-something listings.Stuartkau (talk) 16:38, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Coming to America Edit Needed[edit]

An edit is needed on the semi-protected page of "Coming to America."

A sequel title of "Coming 2 America" has been given and my source is IMDB. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by SugaCat (talkcontribs) 18:36, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

IMDb is not a reliable source in this situation, see Citing IMDb and WP:RS/IMDB. – Teratix 23:06, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

How to format a sortable Wiki table[edit]

I have a table. It looks like this:

Number Ceremony Year Name Film Category Status Notes Source ( ? )
1 3rd 19291930 Lawrence Tibbett The Rogue Song Best Actor Nominee
2 14th 1941 Orson Welles Citizen Kane Best Actor Nominee
3 21st 1948 Montgomery Clift The Search Best Actor Nominee
4 39th 1966 Alan Arkin The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming Best Actor Nominee

I wanted to add a "heading row". So, I looked at various other articles and examples.

When I edited the above table (to add the extra "heading row" at the top), I ended up with this:

Best Actor in a Leading Role
Number Ceremony Year Name Film Category Status Notes Source ( ? )
1 3rd 19291930 Lawrence Tibbett The Rogue Song Best Actor Nominee
2 14th 1941 Orson Welles Citizen Kane Best Actor Nominee
3 21st 1948 Montgomery Clift The Search Best Actor Nominee
4 39th 1966 Alan Arkin The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming Best Actor Nominee

So, two "unexpected" things happened for me. (1) The columns in the new table have all been reduced in their width. How and why did that happen? Can I fix that? And (2) -- more importantly -- the new table somehow lost the sorting ability, with the up/down arrows at the top. How and why did that happen? Can I fix that? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:22, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

A header row must start with ! and not |. Your example has no sorting arrows due to this so the columns may become more narrow depending on circumstances. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:22, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Thanks so much! That was exactly the problem! Perfect solution! Thank you! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

University School name has been legally changed - need to change article page[edit]


I am the digital communications manager for Washington University in St. Louis school of engineering.

I need to change the name of this article:

The new name needs to be "James McKelvey School of Engineering"

I tried to create a new blank page, then move the old page to the new blank page:

The new blank page was not approved however.

What do I need to do to simply change the title of this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Washuengineers (talkcontribs) 19:49, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

You first need to change your username, you have been given instructions on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 20:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 Done Lourdes 18:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)


Regarding my former inquiry here as for the above section, can anybody provide further assistance? It is still unclear to me what exactly is supposed to be referred to by "the old term". Hoping for support--Hildeoc (talk) 20:24, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

I would agree with the answer which you were given. The old term is the title of the redirect page. If A redirects to B, then a link which begins as a link to A will subsequently become effectively a link to B, so in that context A is the old term and B would be the new term. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:13, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
@David Biddulph: Thank you for commenting! Does that mean they want us to place not just category links, but also hatnotes on redirect pages as such? I tought hatnotes are supposed to be placed on target pages ...--Hildeoc (talk) 19:19, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
If you have a question regarding WP:R, the place to ask it is WT:R. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:25, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
@David Biddulph: I have now placed a corresponding cross-reference there.--Hildeoc (talk) 19:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
The phrasing at WP:R#PLA is not great, but is says adding a hatnote and a category link to the old term will make related pages easier to locate (emphasis added). The hatnote to the old term is added on the target article. From the context, it is really unclear what is meant by a category link to the old term. olderwiser 20:11, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
@David Biddulph and Bkonrad: I have now removed that passage with reference to this thread.--Hildeoc (talk) 21:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Why am I failing to get my friend's death listed in WIKIPEDIA!!! ???[edit]

Eliyahu1008 (talk) 23:21, 13 February 2019 (UTC)ש My friend is named John Welwood & he has a whole page in WIKIPEDIA.

But I cannot get Wikipedia to tell the world he is DEAD.

What must I do?

Below are two of his many obituaries!!!

He died on January 17th, 2019.

What is wrong with WIKIPEDIA in that this entire organization seems to be fighting me in refusing to mention that JOHN IS DEAD.

Are you at WIKIPEDIA opposed to death?

What to do???

This is from BOWDOIN COLLEGE where John graduated in 1964:

John Welwood ’64 died on January 17th, 2019, in California.

(The following appeared online at on January 20, 2019:)

John Welwood, a pioneer in the field of East–West psychology, has died at age 75. Welwood was the former director of the East–West Psychology program at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco and the associate editor of the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology. He is known for coining the term “spiritual bypassing” to describe the use of spiritual ideas and practices to avoid unresolved emotional and psychological challenges.

Welwood was inspired at a young age by the works of D.T. Suzuki and Alan Watts. In an interview with Buddhist Geeks, Welwood said that when he read Watts’ Psychotherapy East and West, “it blew my mind completely, and I saw my destiny right there. I felt this intersection was the most important thing I could imagine.” Welwood spent the rest of his life pondering the relationship between Buddhist awakening and growth in psychotherapy.

After years of reading about Buddhism, Welwood encountered the famous Tibetan Buddhist teacher Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche. “His consciousness was like nothing else I’d ever encountered,” Welwood said in an interview with Richard Young. Welwood became a student of Trungpa Rinpoche, and, following his instruction, began practicing meditation.

Welwood received a PhD in clinical psychology from the University of Chicago in 1974. He authored eight books, including groundbreaking works like Perfect Love, Imperfect Relationships, and Toward a Psychology of Awakening. His main specializations focused on the psychology of awakening, relationships as contemplative practice, and embodied presence.

Welwood is survived by his wife, Jennifer, and his son, Bogar Nagaraj, both of whom also teach integrated psychospiritual work.

Another obituary from OMEGA -- where John taught workshops.

We are saddened by the loss of John Welwood, a special teacher and longtime friend to Omega, who passed away on January 17th, 2019.

John Welwood, PhD, was a clinical psychologist in San Francisco and associate editor of Transpersonal Psychology.

A leading figure in transpersonal psychology and in the field of integrating Western psychology and Eastern wisdom, Welwood wrote numerous books, including Perfect Love, Imperfect Relationships: Healing the Wound of the Heart; Toward a Psychology of Awakening: Buddhism, Psychotherapy, and the Path of Personal and Spiritual Transformation; Journey of the Heart: The Path of Conscious Love; Love and Awakening: Discovering the Sacred Path of Intimate Relationship; and Ordinary Magic: Everyday Life as Spiritual Path.

Welwood’s innovative work in transpersonal psychology also emphasized integrating psychological and spiritual work, focusing on intimate relationship as a spiritual path. His book Perfect Love, Imperfect Relationships was the 2007 winner of the prestigious Books for a Better Life Award, which since its inception has honored more than 300 titles and their authors, including Jimmy Carter, Deepak Chopra, the Dalai Lama, Stephen Levine, and Thomas Moore.

A Message from Elizabeth Lesser, cofounder of Omega Over Omega’s 42 years of offering retreats and workshops, I have had the honor and pleasure of meeting and working with many of the world’s pioneering voices in psychology, science, creativity, and spirituality. But rarely did I come across someone who combined all of the above into one brilliant body of work. John Welwood—who began teaching at Omega in the 1980s—was such a person.

The author of many groundbreaking books, John taught one of Omega’s most popular and long-standing trainings for psychotherapists. John died a few days ago at the age of 75 after an illness that might have stopped someone else, but he continued to teach at Omega as recently as last fall.

Besides being an author and therapist, John was the former director of the East–West Psychology program at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco and the associate editor of the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology.

He will be missed greatly by those of us at Omega—staff and students—who knew and loved him. We offer our condolences to his wife Jennifer and his family and his global community of students, friends, and colleagues. If there’s a place where the true teachers go—those who offer wisdom with grace and humility and passion—that’s where John is!

@Eliyahu1008: Your edit history has no edits to John Welwood. Once you know how to cite the obituaries (see WP:CITE) you are welcome to add the information. 331dot (talk) 23:27, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 Done Hello @Eliyahu1008: please accept our condolences of the death of your friend. I am sorry if the Wikipedia process is not as quick as you would like: it is not a news source, so material here often lags behind. This is because the material here should be based on what has already been published in reliable, independent sources. We certainly are not opposed to listing his death, and we don't dispute it, but only when it is based on a reliable source. I found a couple of obituaries that I think should be adequate, and I have updated the article accordingly. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.--Gronk Oz (talk) 02:05, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Typos in edit summaries[edit]

Hi, if you (or I) make a spelling mistake in an edit summary and don't notice it until after the edit is published, is there a way to correct the typo in the edit summary? Or must one go down in Wikipedia history as a poor speller? - cheers - Epinoia (talk) 23:53, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

There's no way to fix edits AFAIK, so your infamy would last forever (and a day). Clarityfiend (talk) 23:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
@Epinoia: Edit summaries cannot be changed. You can make a new dummy edit to give an edit summary concerning a former edit but this should not be done for spelling corrections. Edit summaries can be hidden with revision deletion but this is for serious issues and not spelling. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thnaks!

February 14[edit]

Creating a Wikipedia Page for my father who was an artist in Latin America[edit]

Good evening,

I would like to know where should I start my father's Wikipedia Page. My father was a well know musician whose music still very much popular during Christmas Season.

I will start by using the Talk page, but if there is another page that I should use, please let me know.

Thank you,

Carolina Oropeza — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caribana10 (talkcontribs) 01:33, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@Caribana10: Start your article as a "draft" (i.e., an article whose title starts with the letters "Draft:". But first, carefully read WP:YFA. But even before that, make sure that you are convinced that you can show that your father is notable by our definition. See WP:N. Any notable subject deserves an article. Any non-notable subject should not have an article and if an article sneaks in somehow, it will be deleted, leaving you frustrated and leaving us with cleanup work to do. Since you have an unavoidable COI (WP:COI) you will need to be careful, as it is very hard to write an unbiased article. However, since your article will be in draft space, the reviewers will help you with this. Good luck! Don't get discouraged. -Arch dude (talk) 02:33, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Caribana10. Please note that your user page and your talk page are not the correct places for starting articles. I see that you have previously abandoned Draft:Oswaldo Oropeza in the past, so you could use a sandbox (User:Caribana10/Oswaldo Oropeza) to develop your article about your father. Drafts can be deleted if they are abandoned for six months. It will never be a page "for" your father or "your page", and others will edit it. Also you have a WP:Conflict of interest, so the best approach would be to find the independently published sources first, and just summarise what these say, rather than write what you know. Dbfirs 08:39, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

How to officially publish a page[edit]

Hi! I'm very incompetent and can't seem to figure out how to actually publish my page. I click publish changes, but when I go onto a different device and try to look it up, it doesn't come up, and I feel like I'm missing a step. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brooksies123 (talkcontribs) 03:56, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

You haven't yet submitted your draft for AFC review. But don't do that yet, as you don't have inline citations; please read WP:Referencing for beginners, & also read the advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:18, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
To clarify, the terminology is a bit confusing: the "Publish" button just saves your changes. Gronk Oz (talk) 04:33, 14 February 2019 (UTC)


Is there are pages listing all the templates, like NPOV, COI etc, that are available?--Jack Upland (talk) 08:54, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

You may find Category:Article message templates a useful starting point. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:03, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
@Jack Upland:, Wikipedia:Template messages is pretty comprehensive, and Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace has all user talk page templates on it. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:35, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Reversion of unconstructive edit[edit]

Hello, I'm very upset with the fact that I tried to edit a Wikipedia page and shocked that it does not come up on my peers web pages. What is going on. Please let me know right now.

Kind regards, le-Mags — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:35, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

The edit you made to Web 2.0 was clearly not an improvement to Wikipedia, and was reverted immediately. Wikipedia is an encyclopdia, not a chat room. Maproom (talk) 09:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Weird[edit] and have MfD tags but no template or MfD page Abote2 (talk) 10:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:User html5 was nominated for deletion in a wrong way which affected pages transcluding it. I have fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:30, 14 February 2019 (UTC)


I Tired to Upload the Logo but Nothing Showed up. (talk) 14:43, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Adelekan ...police chief information about him....[edit]

Why is there no info on police chief Adelekan .... You can’t know anything about him just jumps to crime nothing about him or how he got to be where he is — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:25, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

If he is WP:Notable in the sense that he has been written about in WP:Reliable sources, then you can request an article at WP:Requested articles, or even start a draft article yourself. Dbfirs 15:38, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Rowspan help[edit]

Hi all, I'm not very good with table formatting. Can someone please look at List of highest-grossing Indian films#Tamil. There are two films ranked #6. I'd like to rowspan the "6", but only want the green band, which connotes "currently in theatres" to be on the film Sarkar. I'd appreciate a hand with this, because the style stuff is making my brain hurt. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:30, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Is my attempt good enough? I don't know how to get a combined "6" cell with two background colours. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:43, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
@John of Reading: That's exactly what I wanted. I assumed though there was some shortcut method of saying "make everything after this parameter green" so that we didn't have to do the line-by-line formatting. Now I'm tempted to take the green out of all the rank columns... Anyhow, thanks for the help on this! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:50, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

PCI DSS article verification...[edit]

I would love to verify the articles and submit all kinds of data, documents and software configurations remotely set to verify. WLAN and COE data etc. needs expert help. If possible please reach out and help me with a walk through and play by play assistance. My data and privacy was lost, I am not worried about sharing my number... call me to help and gather data galore.

Kristen [Personal info removed -- Ian.thomson (talk)] — Preceding unsigned comment added by MissKris10 (talkcontribs) 16:09, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@MissKris10: Don't post your phone number, it comes across as spam.
See User:Ian.thomson/Guide for a walk through on a variety of topics. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:12, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Mediator fluent in French needed for COI situation[edit]

I've been trying to work with Fbeguin99 (talk · contribs), but there's clearly a language problem interfering. I'm guessing someone fluent in French would be able to help judging by Fbeguin99's contributions to the French-language Wikipedia. --Ronz (talk) 16:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

I might be of use, at least in the linguistic department. Feel free to go to my talk page or ping me on the talk page of the article concerned. --Cornellier (talk) 23:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

my project[edit]

lawyer-admini have to get in contact with michael

about copyrigt info — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conotate (talkcontribs) 18:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

What page do you need help with? WelpThatWorked (talk) 19:13, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • See WP:COPYRIGHT for information on the copyright status of Wikipedia itself, WP:COPYVIO for information on how Wikipedia deals with copyright violations in its articles, and the article copyright for general information on copyrights. Nobody monitoring this page is a lawyer or authorized to speak for the Wikimedia Foundation in an official capacity, contact information for copyright and/or legal issues can be found here. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

I am interested in what pages (redirects) I created have since been deleted[edit]

According to this, two of my pages are deleted. I would like to know which ones are they, but the companion "Pages" tool does not work for redirects, so I guess my deleted pages are redirects? Can any user (one of Administrators, Oversighters, Researchers, or Checkusers) satisfy my curiosity? Notrium (talk) 22:59, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

@Notrium: Your two deleted edits are both related to the page move of Catholic clergy involvement with the Ustaše to Catholic clergy involvement with the Ustaše and Axis occupiers of Yugoslavia. When you did that, you automatically created redirects from the old title to the new title. Due to the weird way the software handles page moves, when someone reverted your move of the article the next day, it automatically deleted those redirects prior to the move. One deleted edit is the article redirect, and one is the talk page redirect. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:09, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Floquenbeam, thank you for the explanation, you are very kind. :)
Just FYI, one way to do deep analysis of your edits without admin tools is to use {{rfplinks}}. It provides links to all sorts of edit analysis tools. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:32, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

February 15[edit]

Mark Dice[edit]

Bold text

Mark's page needs to be updated --- so would you please update it ? He has over a million subscribers.....but that's not even in

there .......also   he   has  funny  ...  and  truthful  videos   that  are  very  cool.   He   is a great guy and has also written  more books than  just  the 1. 

Thank you, Laura ' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:983:280:62C2:F13B:53C7:AD7A:F069 (talk) 00:04, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Please post your suggestions on the article's talk page, along with citations to reliable sources. RudolfRed (talk) 01:46, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
You should not be posting this because Mr Dice told you to come here. Read WP:MEAT Legacypac (talk) 01:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

North Korea[edit]

SOmeone as erroneously written that North Korea is 1.200.000 square km in area in the infobox of the article for North Korea. It is obviosly wrong. Should I correct it outright? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soccererer (talkcontribs) 01:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. A user had vandalized the page, and I have now restored it to the last good version. L293D ( • ) 01:37, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref[edit]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpho Snail (talkcontribs) 12:51, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Mpho Snail: With this edit you removed a reference but left the opening ref tag in place, thus causing the error message. Please provide a link to a page where you are encountering difficulty. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

The Image I want to use for a page[edit]

So the image I want to upload is of RAF Pilot Tadeusz Kotz but I'm not entirely sure if the image can be used it is from . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jediaj02 (talkcontribs) 13:43, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Interview as reference[edit]

Hey all, for those of you who have stellar familiarity with BLP editing, please see Talk:Karan_Aujla#Youtube interview. The issue is this: There is an interview on YouTube from which some editors wish to derive information. However, that YouTube interview is not on a verified channel, so there is a risk that it is a copyright violation. What do you typically do in this case? Let's say the article subject says in the video "I was born on DD/MM/YYYY." Do you update the article with the information and omit the source (probably not), or ignore the content until you can find a more stable source? Seems like if the content is verifiable, it can be included, but I'm never a fan of not including a reference. If you are so inclined to leave some advice at the discussion, I would appreciate it. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:41, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Need help figuring out whether I am talking to an imposter[edit]

Resolved ~ Amory (utc) 17:17, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

See User talk:Larry Sanger#Globally blocked. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Help with Draft:Mohammad Bahiraei[edit]

Hello I had created this draft page:

How can I public this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veronika m666 (talkcontribs) 17:00, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse Veronika m666. If your draft is ready for review, click the "Submit your draft for review" button. —teb728 t c 21:51, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Notices on page[edit]

Hi all editors,

I published and corrected duly by one of the editor. Now there are still 2 notices which now seems not right for the page. How should I remove the notice? I wrote to the contributor who flagged it with notice but he's not replying. Kindly please enlighten. I am a learner. Shwetamits (talk) 17:03, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

No questions, just a thank you[edit]

I wasn't sure where to put it so it'll go here. I just wanted to thank the editors of Wikipedia, for allowing me a teachable moment with my students. I have been following the Mark Dice issue for a while now and really enjoyed showing my students just why they can't believe everything that has been added/edited on this site. It was interesting to watch their shock that someone could arbitrarily change or omit information about someone else based on whatever their thoughts/feeling about that person/subject. It was a win for me because I now have less of a worry about them trying to use the site for their research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DerOmen (talkcontribs) 17:20, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

No problem! Happy to help! I'd recommend this for your students: Using Wikipedia: Crash Course Navigating Digital Information #5. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:23, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Domenico Morgante's Treaths[edit]

It's normal? He's trying to improve his voice but I've been threatened ("Presto ci vedremo in Tribunale"). Driante70 (talk) 17:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

We would like to be included in Wikipedia[edit]

Hello, We would like to be included in Wikipedia and come up in Wikipedia when someone does a search for services/products that we offer. How do we go about it? I appreciate your help.

Best wishes, Mariza CEMTEK KVB-Enertec — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Wikipedia is not a trade directory or a publicity medium, but if your company has been written about at length in independent WP:Reliable sources, then you could request an entry at Wikipedia:Requested articles. The content should be a summary of what the sources say, and might be good or bad. The article will not be under the control of your company. Dbfirs 18:07, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as an encyclopedia Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources state about article subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability; for companies, that is written at WP:ORG. Wikipedia has no interest in your company's internet presence, search results related to your company, or what it wants to say about itself. Note that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable(click those words to read more); anything good or bad can be in a Wikipedia article as long as it appears in an independent source. 331dot (talk) 19:22, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Harry Robertson[edit]

I created a wiki article for Harry Robertson, painter. When I google "Harry Robertson, painter wikipedia" it shows a link to "Template:Harry Robertson (painter) - Wikipedia" and it still says "draft" in the link. But when I go to the page within Wikipedia and ask to move it, it is already an article. What did I do wrong and how do I get the "Template" and "draft" verbage removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clquinn (talkcontribs) 19:01, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Clquinn: The page Harry Robertson (painter) is now in the main space. Search engines like Google do not index Wikipedia articles until they are formally reviewed, which someone following the New pages feed will eventually do. Once that occurs, it typically takes some time for Google to then index it. 331dot (talk) 19:26, 15 February 2019 (UTC)


I don't want notification please tell me how to off notification — Preceding unsigned comment added by 956hasan (talkcontribs) 19:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

956hasan Under your Preferences (in the top right corner if you are using a computer), there is a Notifications tab, where various options are given to you. 331dot (talk) 19:23, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Remove double boldface in transclusion[edit]

Hello verybody! How can I fix the typography in Portal:Peru, section "In the news", by making the link 2019 Abancay landslide included within the current transclusion be displayed, if at all, then in regular instead of double boldface, as is presently the case? Is boldface actually appropriate here? Grateful for any support,--Hildeoc (talk) 19:46, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Updating my Boss's Wikipedia Page[edit]


I work as an assistant to filmmaker Mathew Cullen, and I've been trying to update his personal Wikipedia page with information that he's created and asked me to implement - all of it factual and of a personal nature regarding his career and his feature film, London Fields.

I spent considerable time and effort yesterday trying to make these additions, only to have someone remove them - why is this happening? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MovieMan2019 (talkcontribs) 20:19, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

MovieMan2019, Per WP:COI We do not allow edits that come from a biased source. The things you added were also excessive and unsourced, leading to their deletion. Try starting a discussion on the Talk Page to determine what should be added, and to get someone uninvolved to add them. Good luck! WelpThatWorked (talk) 20:26, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Credible Sourcing[edit]

Hello! I wanted to know if a company founder's LinkedIn profile can be used as a credible source (i.e for education)? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZoeShanks (talkcontribs) 20:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@ZoeShanks: See WP:ABOUTSELF. A LinkedIn profile is just what that person says about themselves so it's not necessarily verified. It can never be used to establish notability (which is required for all new articles). Ian.thomson (talk) 21:14, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

IP ban please[edit]

I am a student at a school in Idaho, which the other students have discovered that they can edit any page and have done vandalism as of late. I want to propose an edit ban for our IP so that they stop interfering with our important site. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:52, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

We don't proactively block like that. If you have some examples of vandalism you can show then it be looked at. RudolfRed (talk) 21:00, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
-Alright, If that's the case I'll try to ignore the edits. Thank you for letting me know. One kid today has been editing multiple pages today and it kind of upset me to see them bothering the site, the people on this site are amazing and I hate the disrespect they are showing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)
Again, could you point to some examples of vandalism that we might look at? For example, giving us the title of an article they're vandalizing, or even providing a WP:DIFF? Just saying it's happening doesn't really help, there's always vandalism happening somewhere. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:12, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
I clicked on the IP's contributions and saw a couple of items that have already been reverted. [[5]] [[6]] [[7]] Probably worth a warning but that won't likely change anything as long as the students are goofing around. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:18, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
I reported the IP, but an admin said that the IP didn't vandalize enough for being blocked. At least I tried.--SirEdimon (talk) 23:17, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

First post[edit]

Hi, I'm posting my first Wiki page/article. How do I get this to be visible on public Wikipedia? See — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emlec (talkcontribs) 21:03, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Emlec: The two main problems I'm seeing are:
I've left more detailed instructions on how to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted on your user talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:20, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Lara Trump's maiden name[edit]

Her bio says born Burgess. But it also says née Yunaska. Seems like a mistake, but I'm not an editor. If it's correct, just ignore this and sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8804:4902:3A20:E8E4:6C73:3164:5737 (talk) 21:44, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Burgess was added in vandalism 5 days ago. Thanks for pointing it out. —teb728 t c 22:09, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

MIsh Mash of Two Celebrities[edit]

I am trying to figure out how to fix the Wikipedia that shows up for Wendy Barlow. There is a tennis player from Canada named Wendy Barlow, but the pictures and much of the information is about a different public figure who is WWE wrestler's wife Wendy Barlow. Magazines, which is embarrassing, use Wikipedia to cite her age and say that Ric Flair's new wife is a Wimbledon tennis player. I am their publicist and trying to change this. Obviously, I don't want to take away the other woman's wiki but how to do i delete the stuff about her being married to Flair and the pictures that come up immediately. How do I create an entirely new profile for her as well? Thanks!

Here is the incorrect profile. That is however, my client Wendy at the top. But unlike credible media sources have been saying she does not play tennis etc.

Would be grateful for any direction or assistance. Thanks! Elisa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantapeach (talkcontribs) 02:06, 16 February 2019 (UTC)