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May 3[edit]

How to get deleted images to be returned, or not deleted in the first place.[edit]

I have had several images deleted - even after I provided either more rational or requested assistance from those recommending deletion. One of my main concerns is why are images that I have stated have no known originator and/or were pre-1923 being deleted? I may not be knowledgeable on exact coding to make sure this is completely understood - but I am totally at a loss on why I never get a reply from those who are making deletion recommendations. It's like they are throwing a grenade in a room and walking away - never offering any assistance, and then the images are automatically deleted. At least when I do attempt to offer more information about the images I should get a reply stating that the copyright code is still wrong and provide some guidance for a work around. I don't know how to make the case to get the images out of that dark hole - especially if they were deleted after I provided more information. I am shooting in the dark here. HELP. I then thought if I reloaded them with more clear justification - again especially for pre-1923 images with no known originator/owner and no copyright, or an image I know has been in the public domain for decades - they would not be deleted again. But it is like fighting city hall - as it appears the rationale for deletion is irreversible, no matter what additional information about the image is provided. I simply can't unlock the key to getting images un-deleted because I don't fully comprehend the exact coding required - and those "editors" who are recommending deletion certainly seem to only want to hit the delete button and move on - letting the automatic "robot" process delete without my day in court to even try and stop the images from being deleted. SandHills (talk) 00:15, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Are you uploading the images to Wikipedia or to Commons? Have you read the policies WP:Images and WP:Uploading images? Have you discussed the images with the nominating editor and the deleting administrator? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
The only deleted contributions here, are for an image uploaded twice in 2007, see File:Dopeys.JPG. Assuming this isn't about an 8 year old deletion, it must be a problem with commons:. Monty845 01:18, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

How can a new user's edits to an article be "Automatically accepted"?[edit]

I have a question – a new editor, Bjcressy (talk · contribs) (who has only been registered for about 24 hours), has been making a series of unsourced additions to some BLP articles on UK soap opera actors. But that's not why I am here. Why I'm here is that I recently noticed that this new editor's edits were being "Automatically accepted" at the article Charley Webb, despite the fact that this editor only has 25 edits, and does not have "Pending changes reviewer" status (obviously!). So I am wondering what's going on here – is this some kind of weird technical error that is allowing this editor's edits to be "Automatically accepted"? Or is there something else going on here?... Thanks in advance! --IJBall (talk) 02:44, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Odd – and now, several minutes later, the "Automatically accepted" tags next to this editor's edits have disappeared.. Must be some kind of 'bug'. --IJBall (talk) 02:48, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
The Auto accepted disappearing was me un-accepting all 3 of his edits in the hope his next edits would go back to the normal pending stage, Not sure if that'd work but meh worth a go I guess, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 02:52, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
24 hours? I think you lost a year? --David Biddulph (talk) 10:52, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

How to fix a red link[edit]

I edited the article Home Rule Municipality (Pennsylvania) to fix what seemed like wrong caps (upper case letters), and this created a red link for List of Pennsylvania municipalities and counties with home rule charters, optional charters, or optional plans, which was a blue link before with lots of capitalized words. How do I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timmeredgar (talkcontribs) 03:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Your fix was correct per the Wikipedia manual of style, but to complete the fix you need to move the target article to the correct new title. --Jayron32 04:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
How do I move an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timmeredgar (talkcontribs) 04:14, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Go to the article you want to move. In the upper right corner is a little menu item that says "More" with a little downward pointing triangle. Click the triangle and select "move". Enter the new, correctly capitalized title. See also Help:Move for more details. --Jayron32 04:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I cannot find a little thing that says "More". Timmeredgar (talk) 05:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
@Timmeredgar: I'm afraid it's not there for you yet. Since your account is so new, you do not have autoconfirmed status and are not yet allowed to move pages. You will be in three days. In the mean time, I moved it so it works now.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  05:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Timmeredgar (talk) 05:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
There is also Wikipedia:Piped link which shows how to have a link that shows one text but links to another (including having a link that has different capitalization.) RJFJR (talk) 20:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Roger Ebert[edit]

Reference help requested. Reference to web page with article by Fristoe, the URL includes a pipe in it, and that makes an error in published page. My one idea was to make tinyurl, but those are disallowed on Wikipedia. I could not find a source for the sentence (and some prior editor marked that citation was needed) other than the one I put in. I put an entry on the talk page for Roger Ebert, and ask again here, how does one get around the problem and still use the reference? Thanks, --Prairieplant (talk) 05:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

@Prairieplant: The "Help" for the error linked to Help:CS1 errors#Text "????" ignored, where it suggests to use the percent-encoding of "%7c" to replace the pipe ("|"). I tried that and it seems to have worked.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  06:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Now I know how to handle this, should it ever happen again. And the article has just one citation needed as of this moment, big progress. --Prairieplant (talk) 13:09, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


I insert css code -webkit-linear-gradient(to right, #3296D8, #E41DE3); at ko:틀:언프리티 랩스타 (template:Unpretty Rapstar) [1] ,but it`s not worked. I want to apply css gradient.--Altostratus (talk) 06:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

For technical questions like this, WP:VPT is the best place to ask. Having said that, this is the English Wikipedia, and ko: is a completely separate project. I also don't think it is a good idea to put browser-specific CSS into templates, because however you are making it appear, people using other browsers won't see. --ColinFine (talk) 09:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
We have {{linear-gradient}} for use on the English Wikipedia. -- Gadget850 talk 18:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Use of information[edit]

Are there limitations for extracting information from publications? (books/magazines) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruchith Singhabahu (talkcontribs) 07:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello Ruchith Singhabahu. I'm not sure quite what you mean. If you are talking about quoting text from a publication: you may do so, as long as it is properly attributed, and not too long. See WP:Quotations. If you mean referencing publications, you can certainly do that - see referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 09:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot ColinFine (Ruchith Singhabahu (talk) 14:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC))

WMF elections[edit]

I went to Meta to vote and I was redirected to Wikimedia Vote Wiki. I am told, however, that I do not have an account in that. What is the problem? I thought that my account was global.--The Theosophist (talk) 10:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

What does the merge accounts page on Meta say when you visit it? - X201 (talk) 10:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
It says that everything is fine. Anyway, it looks like my vote was indeed recorded, even though the site looks like I am logged out. Thank you.--The Theosophist (talk) 10:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
You've got a Meta account, Not sure what was causing the problem though. - X201 (talk) 10:29, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Can't Login[edit]

I've logged into Wikipedia many times before, but suddenly my password no longer works. I've been very careful with case sensitivity, etc. I don't understand why I can't contribute anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

What is your username? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


Nikkimaria keeps changing the page De Club van Sinterklaas for reasons i don't know. Am i missing something or is he/she vandalising the page? --FroggieFrog12 (talk) 14:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Since you know who has been reverting your changes, you must know how to use the page history. Since you have written a few edit summaries for your own edits, you obviously are familiar with the concept of edit summaries. Have you read the other editor's edit summaries for their reverts? Doing that often goes a long way toward answering the question, "Why?". If it does not, the correct action is to contact the editor on their talk page for clarification and discussion, and/or open a thread on the article talk page. Repeated re-reverting is edit warring, which can result in sanctions, and there is no need to come to the Help desk with such a question.
In this case, both of the other editor's edit summaries were rm non-RS. "rm" is a standard abbreviation for "remove". "RS" means "reliable sources". Therefore the editor is saying that the content you are adding is not referenced or the references are not reliable sources. No, they are not vandalizing the page. ―Mandruss  14:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
The contributions have references and still Nikkimaria keeps changing them. --FroggieFrog12 (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Then the other editor is saying that the references are not reliable sources (as I said). Discuss on their talk page or article talk, not here. If it comes to that and you feel strongly about it, you can pursue dispute resolution, but Help desk is not a part of that process. ―Mandruss  14:37, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
To be specific, Froggie, one of the references you used that was removed in the revert by Nikkimaria was to a Wikia page, which is written by random people using the Internet. It is user-generated content, as opposed to a source with editorial oversight and a reputation for fact checking and accuracy, such as books published by major publishing houses, newspapers, magazines, peer-reviewed scholarly journals and the like. The second is also to a wiki, the Dutch Wikipedia's article on the club, which is WP:CIRCULAR sourcing and also another user-generated source. Additionally, the link you used was not actually to the Dutch article, but a site that appears to be a blatant copyright violation of the Dutch Wikipedia article (though I am not intimating you knew this), which would be a type of link we forbid from use (see WP:ELNEVER). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Offensive userpage box content[edit]

I was wondering if there were any rules against the "This user likes/is/believes/etc" user page boxes containing offensive content, whether it comes from a created template or a customized one. I recall awhile ago that someone on the enforcement board was given some kind of punishment for putting a swastika on their user page, but I'm not sure if it goes beyond Godwin's law.

For a specific situation, if someone wrote This user rejects the so-called Armenian claims and believes that it's a big lie concocted by Armenian diaspora ! on a user box for their page, would they be forced to remove it and/or be given a sanction? --Steverci (talk) 16:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:User pages is the guideline for user and user talk pages. The section What may I not have in my user pages? includes the concept of WP:POLEMIC, stating that “very divisive or offensive material not related to encyclopedia editing” should be avoided.
You’ll note the wording indicates that the concept of what’s unacceptable is subject to interpretation. I think you have some choices:
  1. You could stop reading the user page in question - unwatch it, etc.
  2. You could leave a polite note indicating why you think this is distracting from the building of an encyclopedia, or add the tag {{subst:uw-userpage}} to that user’s user talk page.
  3. You could post a complaint at WP:ANI - if you do, please be sure to post {{subst:ANI-notice}} to that user’s user talk page, and be prepared to have your conduct with respect to that editor also examined (that’s how things work at ANI).;
Good luck! JoeSperrazza (talk) 16:48, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Specific to userboxes, Wikipedia:Userboxes#Content restrictions is the applicable guideline. ―Mandruss  16:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
User:JoeSperrazza Thanks. But would I be able to report this to enforcement and get the user sanctioned? If someone called the Holocaust a big lie made up by the Jews on their user page, I doubt they'd just simply be asked to remove it. --Steverci (talk) 00:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Blocks are preventative, not punitive. If the consensus was to remove it and the user refused or edit warred about it, then a block might follow, or other actions. Try reporting it and see. JoeSperrazza (talk) 00:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Mentioned in Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive148#Maurice07, where he received a topic ban (on greco-turkish relations), but I'm not sure if the topic ban covered that.Naraht (talk) 15:57, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The Mozilla Firefox Timeline template is about to run out of space soon[edit]

I've been thinking. In nine days, Firefox 38 will arrive, and so will the new version of Firefox 31esr, but there's one problem: the height in the Mozilla Firefox Timeline template seems to be limited, and if the ESR version number goes down any further than Firefox 31.6.0esr, pretty soon the space will run out, and the template won't work. What should we do to remedy this? --Angeldeb82 (talk) 18:10, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Timeline Mozilla Firefox is a better place to discuss your question. I see you're already familiar with that page. ―Mandruss  18:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The UK Government's Knowledge Network Programme[edit]

Should The UK Government's Knowledge Network Programme be nominated for deletion? It is not notable. It was nominated for deletion in the past when it was current. Now it is very out of date and most of the references are dead links. Yann-an-Od (talk) 20:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Neither of your arguments seems very strong: if a subject is notable, it doesn't stop being notable just because it no longer exists, or the article needs updating. And in general, references do not have to be online, so the link being dead does not necessarily destroy the reference. Looking at that article, I see it has several issues at the top anyway, so it may be that a renomination would succeed. --ColinFine (talk) 21:55, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
We have lots of articles about things that no longer exist. That's what encyclopedias are for, to document knowledge about stuff for history. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Giovanni Battista Piranesi etchings - italics?[edit]

Would I be correct to italicise the names of the etchings listed in Giovanni Battista Piranesi#The Prisons (Carceri)? Or are they for whatever reason classed as minor works as opposed to major works? (talk) 21:36, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The appliable guideline appears to be Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Visual arts#Works of art. Since the article refers to these works as "untitled", I would lean toward no italics per that guideline. While there may be someone more knowledgeable in this area who reads this page, you should try the article's talk page first. It has very low activity, but it has 52 watchers and is worth a try. Another resource would be an applicable WikiProject; Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment is the closest I can find. ―Mandruss  21:51, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

May 4[edit]

Distances as time[edit]

Every so often, I come across an article which denotes the distance one place is from another in terms of driving time, rather than in miles or kilometers. (An example: "Keystone College is located 25 minutes from Scranton, and two hours and twenty minutes from New York City and Philadelphia".) To me, this seems awkward and inaccurate. Driving time can vary with any number of conditions, while distance is constant. When I see these in articles, should I change them?    → Michael J    01:42, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Very definitely; and thanks for caring. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Orange Mike. I have corrected it on that article, and I will do so on others that I find.    → Michael J    14:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no key[edit]

Done (i think) in 1111 Lincoln Road - the ref tag had no ending ">" character. Help:Referencing for beginners has some good basic information, if you are new in Wikipedia referencing. Regards. GermanJoe (talk) 01:51, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

phrase search tool[edit]

Is there a tool somewhere that would allow me to find all articles that contain a specific phrase or word? For instance, if I wanted to find all instances of the word "irregardless" in order to replace them with "regardless" or find all instances of a certain idiom so that I could rewrite it to exclude that idiom. Is there a tool out there that can do that?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sesamehoneytart (talkcontribs)

Frankly, when doing something like that I use an external search engine restricted to page results at --Orange Mike | Talk 02:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Sesamehoneytart: The "Search" box in the top right will find all uses of the word irregardless and by putting a phrase in double quote marks you can get all uses of a "specific phrase" using those words in that order. If you are looking to automate the change you suggest, there's AutoWikiBrowser. It requires registration before use because it has the potential to cause a lot of havoc. Using that you could quickly go through the whole encyclopedia changing irregardless to regardless, but you can't do that because sometimes the former is the intended word. Does that answer your question?  SchreiberBike | ⌨  03:38, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I was hoping there was something out there in the tools lab, but I think the double quotes could work for my purpose, which is to find uses of certain idioms and replace them with a more proper description. For instance, a search for "tip of the iceberg" brings up legitimate uses for the phrase, such as an explanation of the origin of the phrase in the Iceberg article and certain musical albums given that name, but it also brings up articles where the phrase is used as an idiom, such as Culture of Sarajevo article that states that certain pop rock bands are "arguably the greatest Yugoslav rock bands of all time but are only the tip of the iceberg."Sesamehoneytart 16:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Fixing clusters of problems[edit]

I took out some unneeded spaces at Zemitāni–Skulte Railway and a template that it uses (by similar name but with spaces around the dash). Then I noticed that in its category there are 6 or so other Railway articles that have unneeded spaces around dashes in their titles. Is there some good way to do a consistent bulk operation to fix all of these at once, including the templates and links connected to them? Also, I don't see why "Railway" is capitalized on these. These do not appear to be proper nouns (at least, I can't find them anywhere on the web other than wikipedia and its copies). How should I proceed to make these more consistent with how Wikipedia usually does things? Timmeredgar (talk) 02:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

@Timmeredgar: Wikipedia has its own rules for writing style, but if you are confident that you understand our Manual of Style in general and MOS:DASH in particular, be bold and make corrections. You may be interested in copy editing and that's great because there are a lot (understatement) of writing errors in Wikipedia. There are tools like AutoWikiBrowser which assist with making changes in bulk, but their use is restricted to experienced editors.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  03:50, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I am not that confident yet, but so far what I am doing seems to be meeting with approval, or at least acceptance. Are there editors who know how to use AWB who would be interested in hearing about problem clusters to work on? Timmeredgar (talk) 04:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Timmeredgar: If there are many of them, then it might be worth figuring out how to do it with automation, but if there are fewer, it might be easier to do manually. I don't know how hard it would be to automate, but if you can define the problem pretty well, the place to ask would be Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks. Keep up the good work.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  04:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Timmeredgar: it can be useful to raise questions at the talk page of the relevant WikiProjects, in this case WT:TWP. Mjroots (talk) 20:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Snake River (Massachusetts)[edit]

This is a report of sophomoric vandalism event: Names of people (perhaps real) in off-topic &/or fabricated activities (eg: shitting in river causes fish die-off) have been added to this page: Snake River (Massachusetts) Tickerhead (talk) 03:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

18 April edit reverted. Thank you. You can do this yourself, btw. ―Mandruss  03:16, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Misuse of Wikipedia as a web host[edit]

my name is vincy stephen.i got a message showing that

"This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

  • 14:29, 2 May 2015 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Vincy stephen (U5: Blatant misuse of Wikipedia as a web host)"

what should i do to upload my content — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincy stephen (talkcontribs)

See your own talk page for an explanation. Maproom (talk) 06:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
A better explanation is that U5 is typically cited when a user uses their user page to create an autobiography. Please see Wikipedia:User pages for acceptable use of user pages.
I see that you have now created a sandbox draft at User:Vincy stephen/sandbox. Please see Wikipedia:Your first article for guidelines on creating articles. Although writing about yourself is not absolutely forbidden, it is a frustrating experience. —teb728 t c 08:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Why isn't Media Viewer working?[edit]

I've tried to use Media viewer on some images in different pages, but all it shows is a black screen and I have to reload the page. Can you please help? IllogicMink (talk) 07:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

It's OK, it's fine now. IllogicMink (talk) 07:56, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

How do I remove the word Sandbox after my site address?[edit]

Can anyone please suggest me How to remove the word Sandbox after the site address...? eg : xxxyyyzzz/sandbox - is displayed if I type xxxyyyzzz in google Thanks in Advance.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello, It's a bit hard to tell what's going on because you haven't given us the real name, so we can't look at it, so I'll have to answer in general terms. "Sandbox" is not "after the site address", it is part of the name of the page, and it is probably a user sandbox - a page that a user has created to develop an article in. So for example, I could have a user sandbox and it would be User:ColinFine/sandbox (I haven't got one, which is why that is in red). When a draft article in a sandbox is ready to go into the main encyclopaedia, the page needs to be moved; or, better, submitted for review. If that's your situation, please come back here and ask for more help with the specific page identified.
However, your question seems to imply that you are expecting the bit before the /sandbox - what you've referred to as xxxyyyzzz - to be the target name for the article. It isn't. It is (almost certainly) the name of the Wikipedia account that created the sandbox. If it is a draft article about the writer, please read autobiography for why it is very strongly discouraged to write about yourself. --ColinFine (talk) 11:01, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Repeated links to a given page[edit]

If for example an author is mentioned several times in different paragraphs, how many time can we link to the author's page, once per page, once per paragraph ? Is there policy about it ?--lxndr (talk) 10:17, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Generally it's once per article (see WP:OVERLINK). However, there may be a link in the infobox and a link in the article, and if it is a long article, more than one link might be warranted. As a rule of thumb, never two links to the same page in a paragraph, or in paragraphs that are close together. Johnuniq (talk) 10:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


Why did I have to go through a captcha in order for to work? (talk) 13:03, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Probably because a GND identifier in a Wikidata edit [2] had not propagated to the Authority control template at the bottom of the article where it causes an external link. The whole article is rerendered when it's edited and the software compares all external links after the edit to the last time the article was rendered. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:42, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
To put it another way: It wasn't anything you did in that edit. It was just a weird side effect of the complexity of Wikipedia. Yaris678 (talk) 17:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Mechanical work[edit]

Hello! When filling images of stamps on the Commons there is a need for a set of cross references. Perhaps, they can be divided into 3 groups: 1) galleries of versions; 2) templates of series; 3) archives and miniatures. It is purely mechanical work. With pleasure I will look after the volunteer, temporary or constant. --Matsievsky (talk) 13:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello @Matsievsky:, I am not entirely sure what you are suggesting. But if your idea is about stamp images hosted on Commons, you should post your suggestion, or requests for help, at Commons:Commons:Help desk. Commons and English Wikipedia (and all other Wiki projects as well) are separate projects with separate rules and forums. GermanJoe (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Archiving Talk:Data comparison[edit]

Does anyone know why the archiving at Talk:Data comparison isn't working? I think I must've configured it wrong, but I can't see the mistake. Yaris678 (talk) 17:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello @Yaris678:, it looks like an algo of 1,600d (days) is defined. That value should be a lot lower to get the archive going (something between 1 month or 2-3 months is common). GermanJoe (talk) 17:04, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Yaris678: Potentially the 1600d value in a parameter. Reduce it to within living memory, perhaps Fiddle Faddle 17:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion, guys. The talk page is infrequently used. Any idea what the maximum age I can specify is? Yaris678 (talk) 17:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Yaris678: Look at it differently. What is the age after which you want to archive the page? And remember that the bot runs when it runs. This is not instant gratification. Fiddle Faddle 17:16, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I think you can work out the answer to that question: it's 1600 days. I'm not expecting anything instant, but I'm pretty sure the bot is ignoring the page as it's done lots of other archiving since I set up archiving on this one. If no one knows the maximum age, I'm going to try 999 days. It could be a character limit. Yaris678 (talk) 17:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
In general there is a requirement/tacit agreement for a consensus to be reached on the archiving of article talk pages. Usually the process is applied to busy pages where there is a genuine need to declutter and archive old conversations. Looking this talk page it seems to me that there is no obvious rationale for archival. So, gosh, yes, I can see that you want 1600 days. I am not entirely stupid. It was easy to work out. I suppose you have done the arithmetic. But I do not see a reason to archive the talk page of that article. Fiddle Faddle 17:32, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Michael Deacon (Journalist)[edit]

I have received a message alleging interference with an entry about Michael Deacon (Journalist). This was not done by me, nor do I share my computer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:05, 4 May 2015‎

It seems you allowed access to your machine, in that case, or have a variable IP address. The contributions record from your IP address is likely to be correct. Fiddle Faddle 17:09, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
The unregistered editor almost certainly has a dynamic IP address; most IP addresses are dynamic. The edit was almost certainly made from that IP address. What many unregistered editors and some registered editors do not know is that most IP addresses are dynamic. (To be sure, many unregistered editors are certain that their IP addresses are static, but most of them are mistaken. In particular, IPv4 addresses are usually dynamic, because IPv4 addresses have been exhausted.) The edit in question to Michael Deacon (journalist) was made a month ago, and most ISPs reassign IP addresses after an interval of time. I have some advice for the Original Poster / IP. First, register an account. It has several advantages, and many of the reasons why unregistered editors choose not to register are based on misconceptions. Second, if, after being advised to register an account, you choose not to do so, but to edit from an IP address, understand that your IP address may change, and, for that reason, you may either get template messages for edits you did not make, or even be blocked due to vandalism from an IP address that has been reassigned to you. You state that you did not make the edit and do not share the computer. However, you are, possibly without your knowledge, sharing the IP address, because it doesn't belong to you or your computer, but to your ISP. If you have problems due to being an unregistered editor, they are due to being an unregistered editor, and can, in general, be avoided by registration. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:23, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


Hi, how can I get rid of the capthca? It is really annoying that I have to type it after every single edit I do... --Vince (talk) 19:29, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Make one more edit. You have made nine edits. You will be auto-confirmed after making ten edits. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:04, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
However, if a new registered user has to pass captcha, why can unregistered users avoid captcha? Is it only certain edits where this new user is having to do captcha? Robert McClenon (talk) 20:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm guessing Vince hasn't had to do CAPTCHA for all edits. For example, this edit has no external link in it and so won't attract CAPTCHA, unlike this edit.
I think newly registered and unregistered users are treated the same in that they both are asked to do CAPTCHA if their edit adds an external link.
Yaris678 (talk) 06:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I've registered about 9 years ago on the Hungarian Wikipedia. It is just SUL that makes me a newby here :) (it took a little time to complete) --Vince (talk) 10:33, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Estas Tonne on Wiki[edit]

Dear Wikipedia Editing team, This is a representative of Estas Tonne (musician) writing. An article about Estas was set up in Wiki in Portuguese by one of his fans - (Title: "Estas Tonne").

Estas is not approving of the text and the picture used. Could you please suspend the article until we publish a proper one (with the content agreed with Estas Tonne himself) in English - then to be translated in Portuguese?

If not possible, could you at least change the picture used in the article since it is very outdated. New photo:

Lithuania, 2013. Photo by Gary Dagys

File:Estas Tonne photo for the article
Lithuania, 2013. Photo by Gary Dagys

Thank you very much, kind regards, Naya ETMusic— Preceding unsigned comment added by EstasTonne (talkcontribs)

We're not the Portuguese Wikipedia. We have no control over them. If we did, the article would probably be deleted for not having adequately supported with independent and professional journalistic or academic sources. We would also ask you to avoid editing the article due to your conflict of interest. Also, the photo would need to be donated by the copyright holder of the photo (which is probably Gary Dagys), or otherwise released for all kinds of public uses. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Also, if you are not Estas Tonne, your user name is a violation of the user name policy which prohibits the use of the name of a real person unless you are that person.--ukexpat (talk) 21:05, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

May 5[edit]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input[edit]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Your edit caused an error message to display because the <ref>...</ref> tags were misplaced. The help page Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input describes this error and how to fix it. There are no error messages currently being shown at the Heart transplantation article. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:25, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Asegúrese de que los datos de pasaporte español[edit]

Tengo una tarjeta de pasaporte español y la definición de la llamada E D Comprobé en el que no quiero caer bajo pena de ley y Sarvq mi pregunta con todas las tarjetas y los datos de pasaport — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

¿Tiene alguna pregunta sobre cómo utilizar la Wikipedia? Ian.thomson (talk) 00:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Changing our username[edit]

Hi. I just set up an account but our username does not have spaces. Our user name needs to be changed. How can I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sotheycan (talkcontribs) 01:56, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

With or without spaces, your username is unacceptable because it represents the non-profit organization So They Can. And your userpage promotes the organization, which is also unacceptable. If you as an individual wish to edit Wikipedia for some purpose other than promoting your organization, you can create a new account with a username the represents you as an individual. —teb728 t c 05:31, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
And, as well as what TEB728 said, Sotheycan, sharing accounts is not permitted, so if several of you are intending to edit, you should each have an individual account. (You don't need to use your real name, but the name mustn't suggest that you are editing on behalf of an organisation). Finally, if you are intending to edit articles about So They can, you need to read the guidelines on editing with a conflict of interest first. --ColinFine (talk) 10:33, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Note: They are now indef blocked as promotion-only account. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:54, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

how to put a note in an existing page[edit]

I want to put a note in the 'Empire Sandy' page. In the registration (of the Empire Sandy) descriptions they list Port Arthur for some dates and then Thunder Bay for the last one. I would like to put a note saying that Port Arthur (and Fort William) were amalgamated in Jan 1st 1970 to form 'Thunder Bay' How do I put that note in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cruious2 (talkcontribs) 15:26, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Done. You do it by using <ref>...</ref> tags, but instead of a reference, you just put a footnote between them. Please change what I have put there if you can improve it. Maproom (talk) 22:10, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Maintenance category[edit]

Is it possible to create a (temporary) maintenance category that list all tennis articles which have a link in their 'References' or 'External links' sections to the url '' (example)? This is an outdated link that creates a 404-error. The url to the ATP website was changed several years ago to '' and many tennis articles have since been updated but articles with the outdated link still keep popping up. A maintenance category would allow a more structured approach to updating the remaining articles. Thanks.--Wolbo (talk) 15:38, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

A bot could do it but a category is a poor way to handle it. A bot-made list would be better but you can just use Special:LinkSearch/ PrimeHunter (talk) 15:57, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Given that there are more than 2000 in the list, a bot would be helpful, but the question is whether there is a consistent convention of the URL from the old form to new.Naraht (talk) 16:36, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Also, given the unlikelihood of many of these updating, it might be appropriate to use .Naraht (talk) 16:38, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick replies. The link search is very useful but the outcome of almost 3,000 outdated links is a lot worse than I expected. Will have a look to see if there are any consistent update conventions to the current url so that the migration can be automated but from what I remember this is not straightforward.--Wolbo (talk) 17:06, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
If you know a date that everything worked, you may be able to have a bot created an archiveurl for a given time. I *think* that , if given a datetime it doesn't have something from will slide back to the most recent prior. *not* an easy task. But you may want to look at WP:BOTREQ . Even if the people there don't think it is appropriate to do as a bot, it might be able to be done with a a semi-botlike program like AutoWikiBrowser. They would know.Naraht (talk) 19:27, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Why do my posts keep disappearing?[edit]

I keep posting about my dog on the 'oldest dogs' page but my posts keep disappearing. I get no notification or explanation...they just vanish. I have included reference to the woman that handled my dog's paperwork...150 pages plus photos at Guinness, etc...but my posts keep disappearing. What gives?

Rtotoj (talk) 15:53, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

For the reason given at User talk:Rtotoj#Recent edits to List of oldest dogs. There are 3 wikilinks in that message, telling you how to provide a citation to a reliable source. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:59, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Donna Summer[edit]

I don't want to create an account. But the Donna Summer page has an incorrect link to the "Mistaken Identity" tour. It is linked to Kim Carnes' tour and not Donna's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Fixed I changed the link so it links to her "Mistaken Identity" album, not Kim Carnes' "Mistaken Identity". Joseph2302 (talk) 19:19, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Princess Cruises New Tagline[edit]

Hi, the new tagline for Princess is come back new. Escape completely was retired over a year ago. You may find the new logo on our company website ( Thank you!!

Hello, anonymous person. If you want to suggest an improvement to a Wikipedia article, the best place to do so is on the article's talk page; and it's helpful if you provide a published reference for the information you want changed. --ColinFine (talk) 23:09, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Things vanishing from my watchlist[edit]

For several days now I've noticed articles are vanishing from my watchlist. I re-add them, but within a few hours they disappear. Is this a bug or am I being hacked by nefarious cyberthugs? Popcornduff (talk) 19:38, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

That's rather odd behavior both for software and thugs. Are you saying that you'll put something on your watchlist and then later, when you go back to the article, the blue star at the top is no longer blue? If that's so, then someone at WP:VP/T may have a better answer than someone here. VP/T is more for technical issues such as a bug.
That's exactly it. For example, I've repeatedly re-added Thom Yorke to my watchlist (having worked on it a lot in recent days), but checking it today, it's gone. This has happened across different machines. Popcornduff (talk) 10:11, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
If you mean that something will be on your watchlist view and then later isn't, that may be because you have 'Hide bot edits' chosen and a bot was the last editor to edit the article. Therefore it would drop off the view of your watchlist. Dismas|(talk) 06:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

I've noticed this happening over the last couple of days as well, and I don't believe it's to do with hiding bot edits. I've actually had to re-add an article to my watchlist several times now. I will keep an eye out, but I had wondered whether it was some kind of bug. Cheers, —Noswall59 (talk) 10:47, 6 May 2015 (UTC).

Need help uploading new graphic[edit]

The company logo at the top of the page Aruba Networks is sorely out of date, and I'd like to upload a newer version. I have the graphics I need from the Aruba Networks marketing department, but I'm not sure how to upload since I just created a new account, and won't be make changes to any article besides just this one graphic swap.

Suggestions on how to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lrpiccolo (talkcontribs) 20:32, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

You can't upload to Wikipedia until your account is autoconfirmed (4 days old and 10 edits) so your only option is to request upload at WP:FFU.--ukexpat (talk) 20:51, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

May 6[edit]

Referencing errors on John Hughlings Jackson[edit]

Reference help requested.

What is wrong with this reference? It keeps getting a check URL scheme notice.


Thanks, (talk) 00:37, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

See Template:Cite journal. It appears you are misusing both |laysummary= and |laysource=. The former is supposed to be a URL but isn't; hence the error. Your current value of |laysummary= looks like it could be |quote= instead. ―Mandruss  01:00, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I will make repairs. (talk) 01:36, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Can you tell me how I should use |laysource=.'Italic text50.159.6.134 (talk) 02:07, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

The doc says, "Name of the source of the laysummary." As I read it, that would be something like "PubMed", if you use it at all. I say this with no experience with {{Cite journal}} or your subject area. Also note that you still have one |laysource= with a URL as the value. ―Mandruss  02:17, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
@ Those most knowledgeable about the usage of a template are usually found at its associated talk page, in this case Help talk:Citation Style 1. ―Mandruss  02:33, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


  1. ^ Eadie, MJ (1990). "The evolution of J. Hughlings Jackson's thought on epilepsy". Clinical and Experimental Neurology 27: 29–41. [By 1870, and within 5 or 6 years of his beginning to analyse the clinical phenomena of epilepsy and to correlate them with autopsy data, the 35-year-old John Hughlings Jackson had come to a view of the nature of epilepsy that was radically different from that of his contemporaries Lay summary] Check |url= scheme (help) 

Recently submitted changes, would like to see tags removed, if possible[edit]


I have familiarity with American School in Taichung, and have been revising the article on it to make citations third-party and consistent style, and I have added one where it seemed necessary (the AP course listing). I've been learning Wikipedia styles on my own, and would appreciate a review of the article and removal of the self-published, citation style, and refimprove tags if possible.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timkat2 (talkcontribs) 02:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey Timkat2. All the citations are naked links, which is a very poor style because readers should be able to see what the source is and other information about it, which a URL does not provide. Please see, for example, Przevalski's nuthatch and take a look at the references to get an idea of what a fully attributed citation looks like. See also Help:Referencing for beginners. For that reason I think the citation style tag very much still belongs. Second, most of the article remains entirely unsourced. The entire history section, for example, has no citations, and of the only three citations in the article, two are meager, directory type citations, verifying a factoid but not the major detail of the text. The only citation of any real substance is the Taipei Times news article, and even it only verifies one sentence's fact. So the refimprove tag definitely needs to remain. I would agree though that the self-published tag is no longer applicable.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:20, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Fuhghettaboutit, I fixed two of the naked link issues. Probably while you were typing up your reply here. (I don't know why I didn't get an edit conflict when I saved my comments below.) Dismas|(talk) 04:23, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
It's a line skipping issue.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:32, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
@Timkat2: Normally those tags are removed by the person who fixes the problem that the tag is intended to point out. So, if you feel that the issue is fixed, then you would be the one to remove the tag. That said, anyone may disagree with you and put the tag back. In this case, I disagree that all the issues have been fixed. The entire history section of the article is still unreferenced, so the refimprove tag still applies. This is just one example after a quick skim of the article. Dismas|(talk) 04:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Error bug due to 'mobile frontend'?[edit]

I have been accidentally accept its 'mobile frontend' for mobile version. I saw it and it says "This page has been added to your "albums" collection" just quickly drop the bar. Where the '"albums" collection' section on Wikipedia mobile? How to cancel 'mobile frontend' and how to back to normal in Wikipedia mobile? TheSkinsAdded (talk) 03:35, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Your question is very confusing. But what I think you're asking is how to switch between the mobile and standard views of Wikipedia on a mobile device. At the bottom of any page, there should be links labeled 'Mobile' and 'Desktop'. That should let you switch between the two views. Dismas|(talk) 04:16, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. :)TheSkinsAdded (talk) 05:03, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

major bug on all site[edit]

I'm probably not at the right place to report this but they is definitely a problem with the site. When using my iPad 2 with chrome browser, I'm getting a blank page with my geo location on top. It is a big problem because I'm getting that error for ALL the pages in ALL languages. I have tried in both English and French.

Sorry to report the problem here, this is the only place I could find a place to write to you by using my phone instead...

I'm a great fan of your site and actually pretty amazed to see such a problem from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:57, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

The same issue has been posted to WP:VPT which is a better place for technical problems such as this one. Watch for responses there. Dismas|(talk) 11:39, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Ghostly, incorrect category assignation[edit]

On top of article Togoland, there is the ghostly, senseless line:

[[Category:Former protectorates|Togoland, Germany]]

I don't know where it comes from, it's not part of the source code. Maybe it is somehow produced by faulty parameters inserted in Template:Infobox former country, still I don't understand how? --KnightMove (talk) 11:15, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

@KnightMove: I think the template expects the "empire" parameter to be plain text, not a wikilink. I suggest you post at Template talk:Infobox former country for expert advice. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:36, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Anyway your hint helped, thank you. --KnightMove (talk) 11:50, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia not available 6th may[edit]

Cannot access Wikipedia in Chrome but can in Safari. Chrome just returns a geographical location. Any info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:34, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

The same issue has been posted to WP:VPT which is a better place for technical problems such as this one. Watch for responses there. Dismas|(talk) 11:39, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Change title of an article[edit]


We have created a page article called "Una Hotels & Resorts" some years ago, now I change the old username to a new one with the same settings, but I want to be sure that the article we published is still of our property and responsibility. And also I would like to know hot to change the title of this article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unapamela (talkcontribs) 14:23, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Added wikilink - X201 (talk) 14:30, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
The article Una hotels & resorts is not your property, nor your responsibility, and never was. It is Wikipedia's property, and should not be edited by anyone associated with Una. If you say what you would like the article's name changed to, preferably giving a reference to some published source about the name change, I can change it for you. Maproom (talk) 14:34, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict)No it isn't your property or responsibility- once an article is published, everyone is allowed and encouraged to contribute changes to it, see WP:OWN. As you have a WP:COI, you are strongly discouraged from directly making changes. Also, the article is currently up for deletion, as it fails WP:GNG and appears to be an advert, discussion here- you're allowed to contribute to the discussion, but not to remove the AfD tags from the article itself. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:37, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Unapamela (talk) 15:07, 6 May 2015 (UTC)Unapamela the exact name is "UNA Hotels & Resorts" and the source is - so the article will be deleted?Unapamela (talk) 15:07, 6 May 2015 (UTC)Unapamela

There is a discussion about whether the company is notable enough for Wikipedia, the main policies being WP:GNG and WP:CORP. Basically anyone can contribute to the discussion, and it continues until there's a clear consensus. If consensus is to delete, the article is deleted, if consensus is to keep, the article is kept (and hopefully improved). Joseph2302 (talk) 15:10, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
  • FYI Unapamela I moved the article so it has the correct name now. (It's really the same name, it just was not properly capitalized.) МандичкаYO 😜 16:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Flag in Panama Canal Zone article?[edit]

The Flag on the Panama Canal Zone site is the Colombian flag, shouldn't the flag be the U S or Panamanian flag?-- (talk) 14:55, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello, As I read it, when the US was negotiating for the lease it was Colombia it was negotiating with, as Panama seceded from Colombia afterwards; so there is certainly a case for the Colombian flag. I suggest you discuss this on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 15:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Redirect to section[edit]

I tried to make a redirect to a section (I used "#"), but I got a red message saying I can't. Pickuptha'Musket (talk) 15:11, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Pickuptha'Musket. It's always hard to help with a problem when the reporter doesn't tell you what exactly happened (what was the red message? At what point did you get it? Was it on a page, on a pop-up, in the edit box,, or where?), or where they were working when it happened. But I see you've redirected BBC idents - was that the page you had problems with? --ColinFine (talk) 15:37, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
I was creating redirects to Cathy Henkel#Trial of Rolf Harris. The message was: You can't make a redirect here, because this page already exists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pickuptha'Musket (talkcontribs) 16:56, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
You didn't say what you were trying to redirect to that section. If you were trying to redirect "XYZ", the message is telling you that a page XYZ already exists. For example, Rolf Harris already exists. ―Mandruss  17:00, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
My redirects were Cathy Henkel#Trial of Rolf Haris, Cathy Henkel#Trial of Rolph Harris and Cathy Henkel#Trial of Rolph Haris. Hope this helps. Pickuptha'Musket (talk) 17:07, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

On a sidenote, I noticed that you redirected several categories. Per WP:R#CATEGORY that's probably not a good approach to solve the spelling problem. Please check that guideline - maybe someone more experienced with categorization can give you additional advice. GermanJoe (talk) 17:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Peter May Mystery Writer[edit]

When I type Peter May into Google, one of my choices is Peter May's Wikipedia page which is what a want. When I go to Wikipedia and type in Peter May, my ONLY choice=a direct link is to Peter May, cricketer. This is very frustrating. I like to go to Wikipedia directly. Can you fix this state of affairs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:52, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

If you type in Peter May in Wikipedia, and go to the page for the cricket player, you will notice an entry at the top of the page that says that for other people with that name, see Peter May (disambiguation). That provides you with a list. One of the people in the list is Peter May (writer), who is the writer that you want. So you can get to him directly. However, a good argument can be made, based on the Google search that you describe, that Peter May either should go to the writer or at least that the disambiguation page should be primary. A Google search turns up much more information about the writer than about the cricket player. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:03, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
I decided to be bold, and have renamed the article on the cricket player to Peter May (cricketer) and have made the disambiguation page primary, so that Peter May now goes to a list of people. One could further argue that the author should be primary, but I won't do that. If the OP wants that, he or she can create an account and discuss that on either Talk: Peter May (writer) or Talk: Peter May (disambiguation). Robert McClenon (talk) 17:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)