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June 28[edit]

Can't find use of the Official Website template in Lynette Woodard[edit]

The article Lynette Woodard is in Category:Official website not in Wikidata. I can't find where the Official Website template is being used though. If I edit the article, I see at the bottom that it's being called. Can someone explain this to me? Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 04:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@Dismas:, don't know if that is usefull fo to you, but on the {{Template:Infobox basketball biography}} there is a Blank template with parameters for retired players, maybe that would solve the problemn. Lotje (talk) 04:36, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Categories like this are included from a parent template that check a page's Wikidata entry and - upon finding the entry is missing this data - categorizes it as such. You should search for "Category:Official website not in Wikidata" in the source code of the templates transcluded on that page to figure out which one is including it. Scarce2 (talk) 04:43, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I found it. While going through the category, I kept running across basketball players. I finally ran into one that didn't have a lot of templates to dig through. It seems that Template:Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame has the official web site of the Basketball Hall of Fame in it. Is there a way to fix that? Dismas|(talk) 06:04, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Fixed in [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Wow! I was totally overthinking that. Thanks, PrimeHunter. Dismas|(talk) 04:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

My User Page[edit]

I want an experienced volunteer to make my name in my user page User:Silver Samurai look Silver .--Silver Samurai 10:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I've made an edit. The software allows DISPLAYTITLE to make only very minor changes to the actual title. "display:none" is not honoured, and, as you found, if you ask it to remove the space between "Silver" and "Samurai" the whole thing is ignored. There's more detail at Template:DISPLAYTITLE. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

question about possible sockpuppet[edit]

Ive had a couple of run ins with an IP on a talk page, (I had never had any conversation with one) now a user who has been to the same talk page seems to have a similar pattern, what should I do ( I felt harassment)?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Which page and user is this referring to? CorporateM (Talk) 19:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
CorporateM this ip [2] which this administrator said this [3].....then this user (administrators talk page discussion about the user) [4] and then this happened today (second to the last edit)[5] this had been posted at wikiproject med talk--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 19:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
It's too bad we don't have the feature (suggested by @Jimbo Wales: a while back) to simply block a specific user from your Talk page yourself. Regarding the Talk page posting, you do control your own Talk, but I agree with @EdJohnston:'s note from the edit-warring board; I don't see anywhere where you have actually asked the user to stop posting. Regarding the sockpuppeting accusation, that is a long discussion with a lot of users involved. It would help to know which user specifically you are accusing. A lot of times editors start accusing each other of socking or harassment, when it is essentially a content disagreement that has gotten distracted from focusing on the content. CorporateM (Talk) 15:36, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
it would be the last two links on my original answer...the first link shows an administrators answer in regards to the user...the second link was just yesterday(its the second edit from the top) the individual blanked what I and another editor had taken several hours to do on an article) I did not wish to confront the individual so I brought it here ( I had noticed similar edits by the IP and user on the talk page of Wikiproject med)...I felt harassment from this user, what should I do?( the ip [6] --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
You need to understand that constructive criticism of your editing is not an attack on your person. I undid some of your changes (only yours, not another editor's) because you added sources that did not support the claims in the article, as explained here. And no, the IP address is not me. KateWishing (talk) 16:23, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
So when you have multiple brand new accounts that edit a single article exclusively, that is usually a more clear case for socking. In this case, the user has a long editing history on a diverse range of topics. That doesn't mean they aren't socking, but it's less likely. What you would have to do to establish socking is identify editing patterns, such as use of similar language, timing of edits, etc. that strongly imply both accounts are likely operated by the same person and present your case to Sockpuppet investigations[7]. Here is an example. However, I should state again, that you should just focus on content and collaborate in good-faith, unless there is a compelling reason to believe there is socking going on. CorporateM (Talk) 05:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Transcluding things that are not templates.[edit]

I was wondering how transcluding things that are not templates could work. (I want to transclude some Special Pages of the Maintenance type on a subpage of mine.) Donkey Kong Fanatic (talk) 17:26, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

You can transclude, for instance, Special:RecentChanges by typing {{Special:RecentChanges}} Ruslik_Zero 17:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Question about user profile under preferences[edit]

I was curious about the "How do you prefer to be described?" item on the "user profile" section of the preferences page. Specifically I'm curious about the disclaimer at the bottom: "Setting this preference is optional. The software uses its value to address you and to mention you to others using the appropriate grammatical gender. This information will be public." What is the software that addresses me and mentions me to others? If the information is public then where can it be found? Or is it only "public" to those with more privileges than I have (e.g. admins/oversighters/checkusers/etc)? I couldn't find much about the topic in the archives or elsewhere online. Thanks in advance for any help understanding this. -Thibbs (talk) 18:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

The software is MediaWiki, the platform that Wikipedia and some other Wiki's are built on. The value set can be parsed using the {{GENDER}} variable in certain message constructs and API calls (not by basic wiki-text entry). TLDR version - it allows the software to use the correct language syntax/forms when addressing users, especially in language localisation. It is public because anyone who carries out an action on you that results in such a message will see a gender specific variant of that message. Nanonic (talk) 18:51, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the excellent answer, Nanonic! That's just the info I was looking for. -Thibbs (talk) 20:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Thibbs The info can be used via {{pronoun}}, {{he or she}} and several related templaes, generally on talk pages. DES (talk) 22:01, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, DES! -Thibbs (talk) 23:16, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Justice Wynn Underwood: to add an explanation why he was"disappointed" at not being appointed Chief Supreme Court Justice[edit]

Mr. Hemingway'ss article in the Burlington Free Press sating that Justice Underwood was "disappointed" in not being chosen to be Chief Spreme Court Justce by Governor Snelling is correct. As Justice Underwood's wife I can provide the reason for his disappointment.

Justice Underwood had spent considerable professional time recently attending sessions at Canadian Supreme Court in Vancouver, He was impressed with various aspects of the Court . He found ideas he thought would be good to introduce into the Vermont Supreme Court. When he was not given the opportunity to make changes, he was admittedly "disappointed" and retired to other pursuits.

I think it is valuable to know this.

Sincerely yours,

Sharry Underwood........... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:22, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your interest in Wikipedia! However, Wikipedia article content is based upon what reliably published sources with editorial oversight present about the subject of the article, not what individual editors may personally know. If you have a reliable source that relates the information, you can place it on the article talk page and someone can help format the citation and get it into the article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:02, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Unable to verify my email address[edit]

I have received two different emails asking me to confirm my email address, however when I copied each URL and then pasted in my browser, each time it showed me

"Sorry, there are no Web results for this search!"

I am at a loss. I also made sure to change my settings by unchecking the Family filter.

Please help so that I can get a solution to this.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 916brownie (talkcontribs) 23:22, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@916brownie: The message sounds like you are copying the url to a search field instead of the address bar in your browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:38, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

What is even the point of having redirects?[edit]

I was going down the list of pages that redirected to WWE wrestler Luke Harper's previous ring name of Brodie Lee. Next I get 11 notices at once that many of those have been changed back. That's just one example. Shouldn't we want it so that when we click on a word/name/title/etc. it goes to the correct page rather than, "Redirected from [X]"? Doesn't it make pages look better that way?JIK1975 (talk) 23:25, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Redirects serve several useful purposes.
  • They allow the Wikipedia search engine to find plausible alternate terms for and spellings of a suject.
  • They allow links to moved pages to continuwe to work withotu needign mass chanes.
  • They allow alaises for templates.
  • They allow people to link to plausible forms of a name or term without needing to check the correct current form.
  • When an alternate term has the potential to be made into its own article, redirets offer a pre-specified set of links to the new article, when and if it is created.
  • Compared to a piped link, they are more transparent as the "redirected from" note helps the reader understand how and why s/he got to the ultimate target page. This doesn't happen with piped links, and that can be confusing, particualrly when the piped text is very differen from the actual name.
Do please read the pages tha were linked in the messages you recieved on your talk page, JIK1975 and see if they don't make things a bit clearer. DES (talk) 23:43, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Your post is unclear about what you did but I examined your contributions and saw you changed [[Brodie Lee]] to [[Luke Harper|Brodie Lee]] many times, for example in [8]. Brodie Lee is currently a redirect to Luke Harper but the change to a piped link is bad for several reasons. Some of them are listed above and in the links you already received at User talk:JIK1975#WP:NOTBROKEN. Some reasons specific to this change:
  • Brodie Lee and Luke Harper are both stage names for a man actually named Jon Huber. Maybe his article wil be moved to his real name or a third stage name in the future. The redirect at Brodie Lee will be simple to update but it will be rather confusing if articles about his activities under his first stage name pipe the link to a later stage name which then redirects to a third name.
  • Readers clicking "Brodie Lee" may be confused by arriving at the completely different name "Luke Harper", and wonder whether they clicked the wrong link. "Redirected from Brodie Lee" tells them they didn't.
  • Editors seeing [[Luke Harper|Brodie Lee]] may wonder whether the completely different names is an error and waste time checking the link.
  • The piped link was the only change in the edits so you added an unnecessary edit to the page histories, wasting time for people examining it.
Please respect our guidelines even if you disagree with them. After being pointed directly to the relevant guidelines at User talk:JIK1975#WP:NOTBROKEN you still made unwanted mass changes. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

June 29[edit]

Why wikipedia doesn't allow multi link edits to articles ?[edit]

I tried to add the pictures in articles . Wikipedia said you're not able to use upload wizard . That's why i edited the articles and submitted the links of picture with the link of their address . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 918hv918 (talkcontribs) 02:04, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

There is no facility in the software used for Wikipedia which permits directly adding images from an external URL. Images have to be uploaded to either Wikipedia itself, or to Wikimedia:Commons. See Wikipedia:Uploading images for futher details. And note that you must not upload images unless you comply with the licensing terms - almost all images found on the internet are copyright, and cannot be used without express written permission of the copyright holder. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Note that 918hv918 is not autoconfirmed, and so cannot use the upload feature, yet. One must have at least 10 edits and have had an accout for more than 4 days. DES (talk) 03:51, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
It was my understanding that uploading to Commons does not require auto-confirmation. Can someone who is more familiar with Commons answer whether auto-confirmation is required to upload to Commons? Robert McClenon (talk) 06:36, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
You are right, autoconfirmation is not required at Commons. commons:Special:ListGroupRights lists upload under "Users" at the bottom. Special:ListGroupRights does not. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input[edit]

<!-- This request was passed from a Cite error help page --> <!-- Add your request for help here and include the name of the article in question. --> <!-- By default the Subject/headline above will be that of the help page. Please change the default to something descriptive. --> — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBarnes77 (talkcontribs) 23:48, 28 June 2015‎

This seems to relate to Draft:Brett A. Jones. Is that correct, JBarnes77? I have fixed the citation error, but the draft needs lots of improvement in formatting. But more important than that, it is currently cited only to a press release, and so has no evidence of notability at all. I suspect sources are out there, but they need to be added to the draft. Please read this summary of our basic article requirements, JBarnes77 DES (talk) 04:09, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


In Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright, in the table titled "License Compatibility with Wikipedia", the entry for CC BY-SA 4.0 has the following note:

"According to the WMF legal team, CC BY-SA 4.0 is not backwards compatible with CC BY-SA 3.0. Therefore, mixing text licences under 3.0 and 4.0 would be problematic, however files uploaded under this licence are fine."

I would like to add a citation to the place where the WMF legal team said that, but I cannot find it. Does anyone have any idea where they posted that opinion? --Guy Macon (talk) 05:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Go to meta:Legal and ask them. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:55, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
The page history shows it was added in [9]. Other contributions of the user at the same time shows User talk:Moonriddengirl/Archive 56#CC-BY 4.0. Note that Moonriddengirl and Maggie Dennis (WMF) is the same person. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

posting a photo[edit]

I have updated the Wikipedia entry for Eugene M. Locke and am trying to upload a photo to go with the article. The photo is from 1967, when he was deputy ambassador to South Vietnam. I am fairly certain it is a photo taken by State Department personnel to be used for distribution to the press. There is no identification on the photo except that on the back it says in pencil: U.S. Ambassador to Vietnam Eugene Locke. Wikipedia says that federal government photos are public domain and so I believe this should easily qualify to go on the site. Let me know, and thanks for the help. Tom Locke I am trying to post a picture on an entry that I recently updated. It is The picture I have was with our family archives (my father, Eugene M. Locke, died in 1972) and I believe it was taken by the State Department as a photo for the press. The writing on the back of the photo states "U.S. Deputy Ambassador to Vietnam Eugene Locke" and there is no other identifying material. There should be a "South" in front of Vietnam and an M. as a middle initial, but otherwise that should work. I'm having trouble uploading it because of Wikipedia copyright concerns, but from reading Wikipedia rules, federal government photos (which I am sure this is) are in the public domain. Let me know what you think and how I might be able to upload this. Thanks. 06:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)06:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)071185ben (talk)

You cannot presume it is copyright free. You must assume it is under some copyright unless specific evidence demonstrating that it is not.
However, since Locke is dead, we can use it on wikipedia under the WP:FAIR criteria until evidence of its copyright is established and then move it to Commons if appropriate.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:13, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. How do I go about posting it using the WP:Fair criteria? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 071185ben (talkcontribs) 16:15, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

@071185ben: The Wikipedia:Uploading images should help you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:34, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Boldface numbers for edits in View history and Contributions[edit]

Edits appearing on a page's View history and a user's Contributions have a number in parentheses, colored green for addition and red for subtraction - evidently the numerical balance of characters changed in the edit. What is the significance of these parenthetical numbers being in boldface type or not? And where could I have read about this without asking here? -- Thanks, Deborahjay (talk) 10:55, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Bold = over 500 bytes. See WP:AORC or the "How to read a watchlist" section of WP:WATCHLIST. Also have a look at Help:User contributions - X201 (talk) 10:58, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
@Deborahjay: If you haven't changed the interface language from the default en - English at Special:Preferences then many interface pages have a help link near the top. Page histories have Help:Page history, user contributions have Help:User contributions, watchlists have watchlist. They all mention the red and green numbers and link to Wikipedia:Added or removed characters for more information. Only the watchlist help currently explains the bolding on the page itself. You can also try to search help on something by entering it after wp: in the search box. For example, wp:bold red and green numbers has Wikipedia:Added or removed characters as the first result. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:03, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Expert needed on the Cosmic distance ladder, specifically the Classical Cepheids section[edit]

I have a question / potential-problem with the articles Cosmic distance ladder and Cepheid variable. Although this section gives the equations for the relationship of period vs. luminosity (I think), it does not explain to a layman how those equations work to fill in a part of the Cosmic distance ladder. Once we have that explanation, I think a summary should be included in the lead of the Cepheid variable article.

I normally would post my concerns to the Cosmic distance ladder talk page. However, the last posting to that page seems to have been in 2010. I really need an expert on astronomy or cepheid variables before 2020. I tried the Wikiproject Astronomy page but that page didn't explain how you would ask new questions. Should I just insert my question/problem -- that I need an astronomy expert -- in Wikiproject Astronomy's talk page? Or is there someplace else I should go for experts? --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 14:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you can post a question on the talk page of a Wikiproject to request assistance from an expert. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

rectifying site on Mark Angelo so as to remove issues statement[edit]

Dear Wiki editors, I'm Mark Angelo and I'm writing as the subject of this site. I first came across this page several years ago, and while I don’t know who wrote the initial post, I was pleased that it was a largely accurate account of my river conservation work. Today, I opened up the page again and saw for the first time that you were asking for additional verification through an “issues statement” at the top of the posting. Consequently, in an effort to address your request, I have attached close to 20 references verifying all the various points that contributors have mentioned. In addition, there are many, many more references (ie. academic papers, newspapers articles, and TV stories) that could be accessed. My hope is that this might enable you to remove the issues statement you’ve attached (and, as you can appreciate, the strongly worded third bullet would be irksome to any living person who was the subject of such a site). I appreciate that, by adding such issue statements, you aim to complete or improve a site. But to keep such statements for a period when they’re unwarranted can also reflect on well intentioned contributors and well as the subjects they write about. I hope this helpful. Thanks for your efforts. Mark Angelo

Guichon creek (talk) 16:00, 29 June 2015 (UTC)Mark Angelo

There was already a thread about this at WP:COIN, so I added a link with the sources there. I also replied at User talk:Guichon creek regarding COI. But the sources look good at a glance. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:15, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
For reference: Mark Angelo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) DES (talk) 16:29, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Ibrahim Diallo[edit]

He currently plays for Mangotsfield United and not Clevedon Town. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Which article are you referring to? He isn't mentioned in Clevedon Town F.C., but is listed in Mangotsfield United F.C.. --ColinFine (talk) 23:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
I guess it's about Ibrahima Diallo (Paralympic footballer) which says "currently playing for Clevedon Town AFC". [10] says he changed to Mangotsfield United in March 2014. That's why terms like currently should usually be avoided. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I have updated the article per the above, but the paragraph about the 2012 Paralympics is still outdated. I don't have time right now to look for relevant sources. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Bad line break after double quotes[edit]

Please see the article on Celia Sasic. As I see it on an iPad Air 2, there's a line break after the quotes in <<roughly means "(daughter) of Mbabi>> -- but when I edited to fix it, there's nothing to fix -- no space after the quotes. Any ideas? -- Thanks -- Jo3sampl (talk) 22:03, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I see no space there. It was the same on 21 June, so it's not as if you were served a recent version in which it was wrong. Is it possible to attempt a cache-purge, or do iPads even have caching? Nyttend (talk) 22:12, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
I'll go read up on that. Thanks. In the meantime -- as I saw it just now, the line break immediately after quote happened .h.e.r.e., too. Interesting. -- Jo3sampl (talk) 22:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
You can clear saved web data and history, but it made no diff. in this case. Maybe it's an iPad Air 2 fluke. No worries. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:146:200:D2C:8CE1:B67F:C20E:B0B8 (talk) 00:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
On the iPad you can go to Settings > Safari > Clear History and Website Data. Dismas|(talk) 01:39, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

June 30[edit]

How to edit a link[edit]

In the entry laúd, I would like to change the Spanish link



es:Laúd español

Thanks. --Opus88888 (talk) 01:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

@Opus88888: interwiki links are handled through WP:WIKIDATA. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I could not edit. --Opus88888 (talk) 05:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I have sorted it in Wikidata: the problem was that the Spanish entry es:Laúd español was attached to a different Wikidata entry (d:Q5972024) from the one (d:Q1809626) that the English, German, and Italian entries were attached to. I have merged these in Wikidata, so d:Q1809626 is now pointing to the four articles.
For reasons I don't understand, Laúd has not updated its language links - I imagine it's some sort of purging issue, but I've tried purging the page. I hope it will soon catch up. --ColinFine (talk) 08:46, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I have removed [[es:Laúd]] from the article so it doesn't override Wikidata.[11] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:50, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Lieutenant colonel Carl Fries, air force[edit]

I couldn't believe I didn't see my grandfathers ace pilot profile. He flew b-17s, p51s and the f86 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merdock26001 (talkcontribs) 02:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

@Merdock26001: Were you expecting a biography or a mention on some page? Wikipedia:Notability (people) should be satisfied to get a biography. If you refer to a mention on a page then please name the page and a give a reliable published source showing he belongs on the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:25, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
@Merdock26001: If by 'profile' you mean that he doesn't have an 'article', then there are two reasons why he may not have one.
  1. He is not notable enough for an article. To have an article, a person must by notable according to Wikipedia's definition of that term. You can see how a person can be notable at WP:BIO.
  2. He is notable but nobody has written an article about him yet. Wikipedia volunteers write articles on subjects that interest them. It's completely voluntary. So, unless someone has found out about your grandfather and taken the time to write an article (after verifying that he's notable), then there wouldn't be an article.
I hope this explanation has helped you. Dismas|(talk) 03:28, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

How to really create a Wikipedia page for our Company? (Fasoo)[edit]

Hello, I assume that you here this question a lot, but I will ask it again. How do you correctly make a Wikipedia page for a company?

Our company, Fasoo, was originally up on Wikipedia, and then as I work for the marketing team here, when I first looked at it, I found that some of the information was outdated and some were now did not make sense, so I corrected it.

Now when I look at the deletion log, people have claimed that it is "blatant advertising" which if it is the case, I would really like to figure out how to correctly get a Wikipedia page for our company back up, and correctly under Wikipedia standards.

Thank you and I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely, David Kwag — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:57, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is here to build an encyclopedia and not be a marketing platform for companies or individuals. That said, it is very hard for people who have a clear conflict of interest (see WP:COI), such as yourself, to write an unbiased article about the company that they work for. In order for companies to have an article here, they must be notable enough per WP:CORP. I can't say right now whether or not Fasoo is notable enough. While editing by someone with a COI is not strictly forbidden, it is advised against. If you would like to attempt to write an unbiased and non-promotional article, try WP:AFC to write a draft of the article. Dismas|(talk) 06:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not have a "page for a company". Not one. What it does have is articles about companies (and other subjects). These are based entirely on published sources, and almost entirely on sources unconnected with the subject. They report what independent sources have written about the subject, good and bad. The subject has no control whatever over the content of the article. --ColinFine (talk) 08:50, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Some hints: Never use the word "robust", never use the word "liberate", never use the word "constraints" , never use the word "exceptional", never use the word "value" , never use the word "recognized" , never use the word "leader" , never use the phrase "high quality" , never use the word "competitive" to describe your products or prices, never use the word "solutions", never claim the the business or its clients "succeed" , never claim that you beat "limitations" , never use the word "growth", never use the word "largest" or any word ending in "-est" , never use the phrase "number one". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
My hero...sigh!--ukexpat (talk) 12:37, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

problem of uploading a copyright photo[edit]

Is that possible for us to upload some to a new page with allowance from the original creator and how can i prove i HAVE THAT ALLOWANCE? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fylee891234 (talkcontribs) 03:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but only if the copyright holder (who may or may not be the creator) explicitly releases the image under a suitable licence such as CC-BY-SA, which will allow anybody to use the image for any purpose, commercial or not. (Permission to use on Wikipedia only is not enough). If the copyright holder is willing to do this, please ask them to follow the procedure at donating copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk) 08:53, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Christian Jolly footballer[edit]

Has just signed for Margate FC — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:45, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I believe you mean Christian Jolley. I see that there are some sources to confirm this. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 10:13, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Fixed Found a source and updated the page. In future, please supply reliable sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:12, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

incorrect info "uncle tupelo"[edit]

this page on the band uncle tupelo Uncle Tupelo has an false statement. "The Newsboys (later Sammy and the Snowmonkeys)" the newsboys broke up in 1989 and never became sammy and the smowmonkeys. the fact that this was included or edited was a prank by a local band. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C485:60D0:203:93FF:FEBC:C798 (talk) 12:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Since nobody else has answered this, I'll have a go: if you think an article can be improved, you are welcome to do so. We require a reliable published source for information, so if you wanted to add something, we would ask for a citation to a source. If the information you are challenging appeared to be cited to a reliable source, you would need to discuss the matter on the article's talk page. But if, as here, you want to remove some information which is not referenced, please feel free to do it. (Make sure you leave an error summary explaining why, so that nobody will mistake your edit for vandalism). I have not removed it myself because I know nothing whatever about the band in question. --ColinFine (talk) 10:30, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


I put a bunch of pipe-links at a sortable wikitable but when I press “sort ascending” it sorts them by the first letter of the destination page, not that of the hyperlinked word. What can I do?--The Theosophist (talk) 13:49, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

It would help if you linked to the article and table in question so that we can quickly view your wiki-code instead of guessing. Is this it: List of Nobel laureates in Literature?--Aspro (talk) 14:21, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
@Aspro:Yes, it is this.--The Theosophist (talk) 16:09, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
See Help:Sorting#Specifying a sort key for a cell. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Thank you! I have fixed it.--The Theosophist (talk) 16:38, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Tallahassee Regional Airport Name Change[edit]

Tallahassee Regional Airport became Tallahassee International Airport yesterday.

Please change the name title.

Needs a Move Page redirect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MikeMcDaniel86 (talkcontribs) 14:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source, such as a newspaper article, reporting the name change? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
The City of Tallahassee web site has a press release, and also calls it that. Rwessel (talk) 17:35, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and moved Tallahassee Regional Airport to Tallahassee International Airport. Rwessel (talk) 20:28, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Requesting an edit for the China Medical Board page[edit]

I made some suggestions and included some proposed text in the China Medical Board talk page: talk:China_Medical_Board. I also mentioned my proposed edits in the Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_China page and requested an edit formally because I have a conflict of interest. I would really appreciate help in this matter. Thanks very much!

Yearoftheox36 (talk) 14:28, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Your petitioning of changes on the article's talk page is the right way to go, so now you just have to wait for any willing editors to review your requests. If you don't receive any feedback, nudge us again (I'll see if I can spare a few moments myself). Thanks! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 20:25, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Retrieve CSD deleted draft[edit]

Hi, I would like to retrieve the draft of article titled Draft:Exilant Technologies that was deleted during review so that I can work on it in my sandbox area.

Is that possible, and kindly drop pointers on who can assist me or how I can do so , if by myself.

Devopam (talk) 16:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

You should contact the deleting admin, Jimfbleak. The draft was deleted as unambiguous advertising. -- GB fan 16:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Devopam I moved it to User:Devopam/Exilant Technologies --S Philbrick(Talk) 20:42, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you S Philbrick for retrieving it. I intend to work on the feedback and make this a good article in due course.Devopam (talk) 03:15, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you S Philbrick. Devopam, if you want more detail on why it was deleted or what you need to do, contact me on my talk page. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:57, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

creighton university ....Heider College of Business[edit]

This college has changed it's name and we can't figure out how to edit the title of the page

Eugene C. Eppley College of Business Administration

We have been able to edit the rest of the page. Please advise.

Thank you,

Kari Watts Director of Web Strategy Creighton University [e-mail redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:02, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I need to move a page (change the header) of this current page :Eugene C. Eppley College of Business Administration The new name needs to read [Heider College of Business]. The college was renamed in 2013 and needs to be reflected in the wiki page. Thank you. Llemke24 (talk) 16:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - has been resolved by another editor. GermanJoe (talk) 17:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Copyediting images: How do misspellings get fixed?[edit]

I have found several misspellings of scientific words within an image. What can I do to correct these kinds of mistakes?

Here is the URL to the page where the image is located: Sanger sequencing

Here is the image: file:Sanger-sequencing.svg

Best way would be to contact the uploader on their Commons talk page: Commons:User talk:Estevezj.

How to prevent a article from deletion[edit]

I have created a article named Satish Kumar Agarwal and there is a notification asking for atleast one reference to a reliable source to prevent from deletion.Please help. And the link is Satish Kumar Agarwal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Satish Kumar Agarwal (talkcontribs) 18:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Writing your own autobiography as a Wikipedia article is discouraged, because you have a conflict of interest. However, if you intend to work on articles about other topics, some of that information might be better suited to your userpage. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:28, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
You should probably read Wikipedia:Autobiography for a start. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:27, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

speedy deletion! help me...![edit]

what I've to write in my page as an article? i just copy paste one paragraph from holy bible, which meant to be my topic, "The Chosen One". And i need to make further modifications too. And now my page meet the criteria for speedy deletion! what i've to do now, please help me somebody, thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rijo Jose Kudiyirippil (talkcontribs) 18:14, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. It consists of articles on notable encyclopaedic topics, based on published sources. It is not a web-hosting service for random 'topics' created by contributors. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
@Rijo Jose Kudiyirippil: What are you trying to do with that page? Are you trying to let other editors know about yourself? Since the page has the same name as your username, if it is about yourself you may want to put it at User:Rijo Jose Kudiyirippil. Is it going to be some sort of essay where you discuss the meaning of that Biblical passage? If so it probably doesn't belong in Wikipedia at all. Please elaborate on your goals and objectives.~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:25, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
@Rijo Jose Kudiyirippil: We also do not allow copyright violations but cutting and pasting content from other sources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Need to change company page[edit]


Could you tell me how I can update my company's page name. It is currently listed as the Sporting Good Manufacturers Association and must read as The Sports & Fitness Industry Association.

Online it said I just needed to wait till my account was autoconfirmed but it has been a while and I am still not able to edit the title.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacobsca946 (talkcontribs) 19:53, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

To be autoconfirmed, which is require in order to be able to do moves, requires that your account is four days old and has performed ten edits. Anyway, this seems pretty uncontroversial, I've gone ahead and done the move. Rwessel (talk) 20:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

would like to have a second sandbox page[edit]

I am working on 2 different articles at the same time. It would help if I could have 2 different sandbox pages for the two different topics. Is that possible? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smithriedel (talkcontribs) 22:17, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Pull up the sandbox, but do not open the editor. Put a 2 at the end of the address. It won't appear in the toolbar between your talk page and preferences like the regular sandbox, so you'll want to bookmark it in addition to adding it to your watchlist. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:25, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Also, you can generally use the talk page of sandboxes as an additional sandbox, so long as you don't put anything in the sandbox that could get it nominated for deletion or otherwise prompt discussion that couldn't just go to your user talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:32, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
You can make as many sandboxes as you want. Just pick a page name starting with User:Smithriedel/ and save something, or click one of these: Special:MyPage/sandbox2, Special:MyPage/sandbox3, Special:MyPage/sandbox4, Special:MyPage/sandbox5. One of the ways to find the pages later is to click "Contributions" at the top right, and if you don't see the wanted page right away then click "Subpages" at the bottom. I don't recommend using a talk page as a sandbox. Talk pages are not meant for that and it can cause confusion. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:38, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Smithriedel, It is posible to add the menu a link to a page listing all the pages in your userspace, that is, all the pages whose names start with "User:Smithriedel/" That would be at Special:PrefixIndex/User:Smithriedel/. I have quite a few, so such a munu link helps me. If you want one, say so and I will describe how to do it. DES (talk) 02:53, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I see you use my User:PrimeHunter/My subpages.js so let me just copy the instructions. Add the following line to Special:MyPage/common.js:
importScript('User:PrimeHunter/My_subpages.js'); // Linkback: [[User:PrimeHunter/My subpages.js]]
PrimeHunter (talk) 03:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
However, as noted below, there are disadvantages to creating draft articles in the sandbox. Please create draft articles either in draft space, or in user subpages (where they can be moved into draft space later). Some editors refer to user subpages as sandboxes, but they are not the same, and the usage causes confusion. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

July 1[edit]

Writing Article in other language[edit]

Hi, I would like to know if I can write an article in other language such as Burmese or Shan language? Thank you in advance --momo 09:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mokawn (talkcontribs)

Sure you can (provided you know those languages). There is a working Burmese edition of Wikipedia. There is also a test Shan version in the Wikipedia Incubator. --CiaPan (talk) 09:35, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
@Mokawn: Articles here at the English Wikipedia should be in English. Dismas|(talk) 10:53, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
see also Wikipedia:Translation and Wikipedia:Translate us. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:15, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge[edit]

Hi there Could you please check the section PARENTS on the page "Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge" I cannot do the "nee" with the accent over it. It is required for Olive Middleton, nee Lupton (1881-1936) Also, there is an "access" problem with the date in one of my citations in this PARENTS section Thanks so much Ted — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:08, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done
For future reference: if you don't know how to get accented letters from the keyboard in your operating system, beneath the editing window in Wikipedia there is a panel where you can bring up lots of different sets of characters (Latin, Greek, IPA etc) and pick one from there. And the system was objecting to "July 1 2015" - changing it to "1 July 2015" fixed it. --ColinFine (talk) 10:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text[edit]

How to add references on my article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chacharaliraza (talkcontribs) 11:09, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Chacharaliraza. Put simply, every single statement in the article Ali Raza Jaffari must be individually cited to a reliable published source which is not from Jaffari, his family, his friends, his associates, his employees, or any interviews or press releases from him, but written by somebody unconnected with him. This is detailed in Your first article and Referencing for beginners.
I notice that your username suggests that you might be Jaffari or somebody related to him. If you are, please be aware that you have a conflict of interest and so are strongly discouraged from writing about him. Autobiography in particular is not a good idea on Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 11:58, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Logging a successful GA nomination[edit]

How do I "log" my first Good Article on my User page? I have seen "icons" on other User pages that indicate their GA successes. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:52, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@Dodger67: They're called top icons, and the one you're looking for is {{GA user topicon}} Sam Walton (talk) 12:54, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Justice Scalia[edit]

Recent edits to Justice Scalia's biography are inappropriate and in very poor taste. Please correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:03, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

The article Antonin Scalia has been semi-protected due to vandalism and the vandalism has been reverted. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:41, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Misattribution of article caused by sandbox reuse[edit]

Dear editors: Regrettably, new users are often directed to create draft articles in their sandboxes instead of using user subpages or draft space. Since the user sandboxes were only designed for experimenting, this causes mixups in the page histories. For example, Atacama B-Mode Search is attributed to me as its creator, when in fact all I did was move an existing draft out of the sandbox to the review area. Then the sandbox was reused for a totally different topic, which I not only didn't originate, but never edited. The problem is, if the real creator of this page is supposed to be notified about something (for example, an AfD) he or she will not get the notification, and also the statistics tools do not give the editor credit for having created the article.

I am an admin, so I can make my edit disappear, leaving the true page creator with the first edit. The easiest way would be WP:REVDEL, or I could delete the whole page and restore all but the first edit. (Note: I am not asking anyone to do this for me.}

My question is, would deleting my edit fix the problem? Would the various notification templates and "X's Tools" then pick up the correct page creator data? I would prefer to use REVDEL if it would work, because it's easier and less disruptive. There are many of these articles attributed to me, some for which I particularly don't want credit, and I'd like them off my list.—Anne Delong (talk) 14:22, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Not an answer to the question, but I don't understand why we now suggest new people create articles anywhere at all other than draft space. --ColinFine (talk) 14:51, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Some of these were created before there was a draft space. Also, some users may begin a user page to collect references and random facts, and then this may evolve into a draft article later. However, user pages usually have unique names and don't cause problems, while sandboxes in particular (IMO) shouldn't be used to create articles because they are often reused. I plan to bring this up at WP:WPI.—Anne Delong (talk) 15:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I haven't ever seen editors advised to create draft articles in sandboxes. I have only seen editors advised to use draft space. The alternative is to create draft articles in user space. I agree that creating draft articles in sandboxes can cause history problems. If there is a policy, guideline, or essay that states that sandboxes can be used for draft articles, it should be revised. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I see discussion above of using multiple sandboxes to create articles, and have commented. Some editors refer to user subpages as sandboxes. This usage causes confusion, because they are not really the same. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
The message when I try to create a non-existent article is:
  • Before creating an article, please read Wikipedia:Your first article.
  • You can also search for an existing article to which you can redirect this title.
  • To experiment, please use the sandbox. To use a wizard to create an article, see the Article wizard.
  • When creating an article, provide references to reliable published sources. An article without references, especially a biography of a living person, may be deleted.
  • You can also start your new article at Special:Mypage/Fffffffffg. There, you can develop the article with less risk of deletion, ask other editors to help work on it, and move it into "article space" when it is ready.
Not a single mention of draft space, though it does point at the Article Wizard after mentioning the sandbox (not a user sandbox). I think this needs overhaul. --ColinFine (talk) 17:53, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Robert McClenon, ColinFine, I have started a discussion about this at WP:VPI where it's more appropriate; I'd appreciate it if you (and anyone else interested) would comment there. In the meantime, does anyone have the answer to my question about what would happen if I just used WP:REVDEL on the first edit of the problem articles, including the example I gave above? I don't want to experiment with someone else's article in case I make things worse.—Anne Delong (talk) 18:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

AJOP Association for Jewish Outreach Professionals[edit]

I have been the director since 1999 and nothing has been updated since them. I have no idea of who put up the information. Please let me know how to gain access and update the posting.

Thank You

Rabbi Yitzchok Lowenbraun — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:09, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Please post your comments or suggested edits at Talk:Association for Jewish Outreach Programs. Since you are employed by the organization, you have a conflict of interest and are discouraged from editing the article yourself, but your suggestions for improving the article are welcome. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
and note that suggestions backed up by references to reliable published sources - especially sources unconnected with AJOP - are much more likely to be acted on. --ColinFine (talk) 17:56, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Attracting attention of people who know a certain language.[edit]

Ok, I know if an article is in another language Wikipedia and you want it translated to English, it can be tagged with an Expand by language template. Also, there are templates for requesting translation if an article or section of an article that isn't in English appears in the English Wikipedia. Likewise if there is a source cited in an article and you want that source translated, there's a template for that.

But what if there is an unreferenced English article, and you can find sources online but they aren't in English? Is there a template to attract editors who know that language to come and work on the article? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 19:39, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, ONUnicorn. Have a look at Category:Wikipedians by language. That classifies people by the language userboxes they have put on their user pages. (It's a bit confusing at first: "User bg", for example, is a subcategory of everybody who has put one of the bg-n (Bulgarian) userboxes on their user page.) --ColinFine (talk) 20:19, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Eh. I was hoping for a tag I could put on the article, rather than canvassing editors who have identified as knowing the language on their talk pages. Oh well, thanks. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
This again may not be what you are looking for, but, if you want to request help on an article from someone who knows another language, you could either post a request to the talk page of the Wikiproject that the article belongs to, or post a request to the talk page of the Wikiproject about the country where the language is spoken (since that project is likely to have native-speakers of its language). Robert McClenon (talk) 20:42, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
That's a good idea. I'll try that. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


Header added by ColinFine (talk) 20:15, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Wikipedia team,

I am writing from the non-profit organization the Workmen’s Circle. We recently re-designed our logo and would like to update our picture on our Wikipedia page with this new logo. However, it looks like we don't have permission to do so. Can you please walk us through that process? I may be reached on email as well: [redacted]

Thanks so much,

Sara Koenig — Preceding unsigned comment added by WorkmensCircle (talkcontribs) 20:12, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

See WP:Logos for guidelines on the use of logos as non-free content. However, your user name is the name of your organization, and organization names as user names are not permitted. I suggest that you request a change in your user name. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
See WP:Username policy for an explanation of the user name policy and how to request a change. However, as it says, since you have made only a few edits, it might be easier to abandon your current account and create a new account. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:48, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

5 years after sock block[edit]

Hello. I am inquiring about an earlier statement of 5 years after sock. Would TZLNCTV (me) be reblocked?-- (talk) 20:16, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

See the WP:STANDARDOFFER. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Right but I just turned 12 and I really, well, don't think I'd be unblocked anyway because when I put the legit alt tag on Wronglyth (looks like Pronglyb since uses old English letters), it claimed I read the sock policy when in fact I only read it the day after I was blocked. And I lied because I didn't really know what to do, or how my parents would react. I tried t cover it up so they wouldn't get mad or anything, and the whole issue was an honest mistake on my part for even creating an alt. I am covering another issue here; the DEL discussion of the Frankin County OH road list. If someone looked closely, they'd see on the newer, lowercase street signs, under the road name is the township or county route number. I found the Delaware county roads from the official Delaware County map. I live in Columbus, and I have drawn and studied maps for years. Recently, I got some old 1930s-1970s maps of Ohio, Florida, Ontario, etc. I used the maps to figure out how roads went and maybe edit based on it. I also use these skills to build on the video game Roblox (However my account there was hacked and was permanently banned in May). I write on Wikipedia because I know the knowledge it can bring not just to normal readers but to travelers as well, which is why I edited Wkivoyage. I don't want to waste your time with more but that's my editing and reasoning for editing about roads in a nutshell.-- (talk) 21:00, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I am not getting a very coherent message from you; but, if you don't think you will be able to abide by the STANDARDOFFER, then yes, returning to edit under other conditions would leave you subject to being blocked again and the next time the STANDARDOFFER would take in your repeat offenses making it more unlikely to be accepted. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:17, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
  • facepalm* Well, at least it is answered. Thank you. -- (talk) 21:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

"The Objective Correlative"[edit]

As shown in the Clint Eastwood movie, Jersey Boys, songwriter Bob Gaudio of The 4 Seasons  is asked who the girl is in his song "Cry For Me".  He makes reference to the T.S. Elliot topic, "the Objective Correlative", as being every girl, or any girl.  In adherence to this reference, the author is allowed the literary license to step outside the scope of his personal experience, and to conjecture about the emotions and responses inherent with the situation, and utilize the third party perspective in the first party presentation.

Peter Styles — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:30, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

What is your question? RudolfRed (talk) 22:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)