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May 22[edit]

Email or Contact Information[edit]

How would I get an email or contact information for Tina Knowles Lawson? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:D145:9400:4857:D50F:BD60:F50D (talk) 05:29, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

This Help Desk is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Try asking at the Reference Desk. Rojomoke (talk) 10:59, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Seth RIch -[edit]


Heads up here - the post you have published is politically motivated. Do not publish it. There is a lot more to this story. Seth very probably leaked the DNC info to Wikileaks. We know the leaks did not come from Russia. How do we know? Assange said so. He is a man of integrity. Evidence points to Seth RIch as the source. Do not tarnish your site by printing a cover-up as truth. You have your reputation to protect. Additional info and sources:

Seth Richs reddit posts are now being deleted. The story about what happened to him when he arrived in the hospital - a eyewitness report by a resident doctor has been deleted -

014 the fake Russian narrative was in the works focused around events in Ukraine..

I'm sure even before that in some ways, but I don't remember the stories..

2009, Russia and China, along with Iran and some other nations started serious discussions about finding an alternative to the US Dollar as the Global Reserve Currency.. basically cutting out the American banking oligarchy's ability to "skim off the top" over international trade between nations..

2012, another round of talks between Russia and China, with a few more interested nations exploring the idea..

Following those meetings, over the next couple years, Russia and China work out agreements and begin trading with each other in their own currencies.. Russia starts selling natural gas to various European countries and allowing them to pay in Rubles.. US banksters highly pissed. Media smear campaign begins to scale up over events in Ukraine.. ridiculous amounts of skullduggery and unfounded accusations engaged in by Political and Media talking heads.. all while Hillary is selling 20% of US Uranium stocks to Russian business consortiums in exchange for a $700,000 bribe..

This whole thing has been engineered for consumption to re-ignite the Cold War, preparing the ground work for a potential third world war as the corrupt Western banking elites face the first real threat to their global hegemony since Kennedy attempted to put partial control of US currency back in the hands of Treasury instead of the private Federal Reserve."

2014 the fake Russian narrative was in the works focused around events in Ukraine..

I'm sure even before that in some ways, but I don't remember the stories..

2009, Russia and China, along with Iran and some other nations started serious discussions about finding an alternative to the US Dollar as the Global Reserve Currency.. basically cutting out the American banking oligarchy's ability to "skim off the top" over international trade between nations..

2012, another round of talks between Russia and China, with a few more interested nations exploring the idea..

Following those meetings, over the next couple years, Russia and China work out agreements and begin trading with each other in their own currencies.. Russia starts selling natural gas to various European countries and allowing them to pay in Rubles.. US banksters highly pissed. Media smear campaign begins to scale up over events in Ukraine.. ridiculous amounts of skullduggery and unfounded accusations engaged in by Political and Media talking heads.. all while Hillary is selling 20% of US Uranium stocks to Russian business consortiums in exchange for a $700,000 bribe..

This whole thing has been engineered for consumption to re-ignite the Cold War, preparing the ground work for a potential third world war as the corrupt Western banking elites face the first real threat to their global hegemony since Kennedy attempted to put partial control of US currency back in the hands of Treasury instead of the private Federal Reserve." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polstorm (talkcontribs) 05:46, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Polstorm. If you have concerns about the accuracy of an article, the article's talk page is the place to bring it up. But note that Wikipedia articles summarise what reliable published sources say about a subject. If the sources are in disagreement, the article should reflect that. But there is no place in Wikipedia for advocacy or argumentation. --ColinFine (talk) 11:37, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Spencer Matthews[edit]

Refs 1 and 6 are no good. (talk) 07:14, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

I have improved the citation of ref 6, and restored the named ref whose absence was causing the error message associated with ref 2 (not 1). But I wouldn't regard either as a reliable source. Maproom (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
I see that the article has two references numbered 1 (and did have before my edits). I have no idea how this is achieved. Maproom (talk) 08:16, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
@Maproom: It is achieved by grouping: the second <ref> in a lead section has an attribute group="Autobiography", so it has a separate number 1 in its own group of references. --CiaPan (talk) 08:23, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
I've added a subsection to References to make things more clear. --CiaPan (talk) 08:25, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation. I see that the single reference in the "autobiography" section is the same as ref 2 in the main section. That accounts for the disappearance of the "named reference". I've now redone all other refs to this work, to explicitly refer to the autobiography. (I'm not confident I've done all this in the best way. If anyone has a better idea, I shan't complain.) Maproom (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Archive a web source[edit]

If I want to archive a web-based source so it will always be available in future, what can I do? Siuenti (씨유엔티) 11:05, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Siuenti, you could read the instructions given at Wikipedia:Link rot. Thanks. Lourdes 14:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Spam classification[edit]

Hi, I wrote an article about a record producer and it was knocked back as Spam when I submitted it. At first, I had some YouTube links as references which it did not like, so I took them out but it still categorized the article as spam.The producer I was writing about has worked with important artists and is continuing to work with international artists and he has independent articles written about him in Billboard magazine. Is it possible to have this reviewed? Thank you.

Linda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindagleeson9 (talkcontribs) 11:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Your contribution record shows no edits apart from this question. Perhaps you could provide a wikilink to the article in question? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:51, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Linda. Wikipedia articles should be based almost entirely on what independent published sources say about the subject: Wikipedia has very little interest in what the subject says, or even in what they have produced, except insofar as independent sources discuss it. If there are indeed indepedent sources in Billboard (truly independent, not based on interviews or press releases) then an article can be written based only on what those independent commentators have said. Please read your first article, and I suggest using the articles for creation process, to work on a draft and then submit it for review. --ColinFine (talk) 13:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I can't seem to find the original article, I will have to start again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindagleeson9 (talkcontribs) 12:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

The account User:Lindagleeson9 has not saved it but if you give the name as well as you remember it then we can search for pages saved without logging in. Or do you have another account? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:06, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

need help with IP[edit]

2605:6000:EF43:8500:8D1D:42A:EA65:9EF5[1] has been warned by:

  • GiantSnowman
  • Hayman30
  • I have left

_the IP has not answered any post on his talk page [7](he reverted a warning by another editor(administrator)[8])

_ and ip has reverted me two times at Democratic Republic of the Congo Ebola outbreak 2017[9]

_what do I do? thanks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:55, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:33, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Both username and password lost[edit]

Hi. How can I recover my forgotten username, in order to get help with recovering my password, which is also lost (!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

If the account has stored an email address then enter it at Special:PasswordReset. It it hasn't then you cannot access the account even if you recover the username. You can just create a new account. If you forgot the username then keeping the name doesn't sound important. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:45, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
If you forgot your username, you can check the histories of articles that you edited if any. Ruslik_Zero 14:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


I SAW A MIDI PORT IN THIS MIXER HOW DO I CONNECT TO THE COMPUTER AND IS IT COMPATIBLE WITH CUBASE — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:41, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

@ Hello, this is the desk for help in editing Wikipedia. Wikipedia's reference desk may have some information or enter your query into Google where a search may reveal an online help site with more information. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 13:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict)P computing.svg This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 13:49, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Database query error[edit]

Getting the following error when trying to edit an article: A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.[WSL4FwpAAEQAABNCodgAAADR] 2017-05-22 14:39:36: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError" prokaryotes (talk) 14:40, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Worked now after waiting a couple minutes. prokaryotes (talk) 14:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

List of Historically Black Colleges and Universities -- Correction needed for Delaware State University founding name[edit]

This pertains to Wikipedia's List of historically black colleges and universities.

Concerning the HBCU entry for Delaware State University:

Under the column for "Comment" (which list the original name or affiliation of the school), it lists Delaware State University's founding name as the State College for Colored Student. Some recent research in the enabling state legislation that established the college reveals that, although long thought to be the 1891 original name, that is not correct. According to the enacted state legislation (see Laws of Delaware, Chapter 119, page 249), the title of the law gives the correct name -- An Act to establish the Delaware College for Colored Students (adopted May 15, 1891). That is the only full institutional name given in the legislation; subsequent second references in the proceeding sections of legislation are "the College." Because there was already a white Delaware College, it was decided after the legislation was enacted that having two Delaware Colleges -- one for whites and one for blacks -- could be confusing. (The white school was located in Newark, Del., and is now known as the University of Delaware; the black school was located just outside of the state capital of Dover). To address that concern, new legislation was passed and enacted early 1893 (The Laws of Delaware, Chapter 635, page 743) that changed the name of the black school to the "State College for Colored Students." Some recent research on the original legislation revealed the correct founding name. Prior to that, no University officials or alumni appears to have been aware of the original name given in the founding legislation.

To further substantiate, the names of DSU by years:

1891-1893: the Delaware College for Colored Students 1893-1947: the State College for Colored Students 1947-1993: Delaware State College 1993-Present: Delaware State University

In summary, the correct founding name of Delaware State University should be the "Delaware College for Colored Students."

Thanks in advance for your attention to this error.

Carlos Holmes, director of News Services and University historian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:34, 22 May 2017‎ (UTC)

Mr. Holmes. Thank you for communicating this way. The page List of historically black colleges and universities page reflects what is on the Delaware State University page, (down in the history section which references page which does not exist and should almost certainly change to referencing ). *That* page at DSU doesn't show the change in 1893. However the references to the Laws of Delaware should be enough. However the discussion on this should be on Talk:Delaware State University and I'll copy it there, OK?Naraht (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Copied to Talk:Delaware State University.Naraht (talk) 17:54, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

comment about the Amos Larkins deletes[edit]

To whom it may concern My Father Amos Larkins is well know for his contribution to the genre of Hip hop and miami Bass it seems as though no matter what he doesn't your admins discredit him by saying his post are propaganda or this is not dont right or that is not done right and no matter what we do to try to do it right and work with Wikipedia some admin comes up with a different reason to delete his article this is so sad that a man who created and pioneers a music genre (literally ) has more trouble to get on wikipeada than some lesser important articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redrabbitiam (talkcontribs) 18:42, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

@Redrabbitiam: According to the note at Amos Larkins it was deleted because the was only one autor and that editor requested it be deleted However, that does not match the note on your talk page. @Anthony Appleyard:, can you please clarify what happened to this article? RudolfRed (talk) 19:01, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Amos Larkin's[edit]

Why was this removed. Please re add — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Amos Larkins II Wrongful Deletion "PLEASE REINSTATE!"[edit]

This page is being wrongly attacked by someone for obviously malicious reasons. Amos Larkins II is a musical legend and a pioneer in the bass music industry of South Florida. He is a real person with a proven and researchable track record. His discography is recorded, factual and verifiable. His page is not promotion it simply defines who he is and his accomplishments. However someone is maliciouslyb stalking his page and submitting entirely unwarranted, random request for requests for deletion.

Please verify and reinstate this page and please notify the abuser to cease and desist. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicprogirl1 (talkcontribs) 19:08, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

People Maliciously and/or Randomly Deleting Profiles[edit]

There should be guidelines to prevent "real" pages from being randomly deleted. Too many people create fake profiles just to cause havok to others.

Musicprogirl1 (talk) 19:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Musicprogirl1, there are policies that keep articles from being deleted. It all starts with WP:DELETION. No one has maliciously attacked the page. If you think a page has been deleted that shouldnt have been you can ask for the deletion to be reviewed at WP:Deletion review. ~ GB fan 19:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
There have been articles at two different names, Amos Larkins and Amos Larkins II. Amos Larkins was initially created in 2005 and sat until 2010 when it was deleted for being unreferenced. There was also a comment that the subject was offended by maintenance tags. It was created again yesterday and the last note left by the editor who created the article, Redrabbitiam, said; "Please delete this article for i have no idea what i did wrong everything i wrote about my father is true and can be proven as fact so i think it is totally unfair for 75% of facts be deleted. please except my apologies for any wrong doing but i have no idea whats going on here thank you for the Wikipedia service i don't understand thank you" After that it was deleted at their request. Amos Larkins II was also initially created in 2005. It was deleted initally as a copy of Amos Larkins. Today it has been created and deleted twice. The first time it was created by Redrabbitiam and was written in a highly promotional manner. As an example the last line was "Nevertheless, Amos Larkins, is without a doubt, the undeniable godfather of Miami bass." The next time you started it and never said what was significant about Mr Larkins. I do not see that anything malicious has happened here. ~ GB fan 19:47, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
There was also a third title Amos LarkinsII, and a deletion discussion for two of the titles at WP:Articles for deletion/Amos Larkins II. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:52, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
  • @Redrabbitiam, RudolfRed, David Biddulph, and Musicprogirl1: History of the page Amos Larkins:-
    • Started at 20:46, 17 June 2005 by User:Wathiik
    • Then nearly 40 edits.
    • At 21:37, 29 October 2010 deleted by User:JzG : "Unreferenced WP:BLP, subject offended by maintenance tags."
    • Starting at 14:42, 21 May 2017, 14 edits:
      • 1 by User:Redrabbitiam
      • then 5 by User:I dream of horses
      • then 6 by User:Redrabbitiam, including at 14:52, 21 May 2017 adding a tag {{db-repost|1=Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AMOS LARKINS II|help=off}}.
      • then 1 by User:Dorintosh
      • then 1 by User:Redrabbitiam.
    • At 04:34, 22 May 2017 it still had the db-repost tag, so I deleted it.
    • Page Amos Larkins II has been deleted 5 times, but never by me, and see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amos Larkins II.
    • Page Amos LarkinsII had 13 edits in May and June 2005. It was deleted twice, but not by me.
    • Do you want me to undelete any or all of Amos Larkins, Amos Larkins II, Amos LarkinsII, so that non-admins can read them including their old edits? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:10, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Note User:Amos Larkins and User:Redrabbitiam have now been blocked for sock puppetry. Eagleash (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

2017 Army Black Knights football schedule[edit]

What no article Come on move it to the main article There's a reference I put it in and it needs to be moved now and stop being lazy. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:D1CA:2E30:6683:E8F7 (talk) 19:38, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Are you asking about Draft:2017 Army Black Knights team? ~ GB fan 19:49, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
The schedule is in the article here: Army_Black_Knights_football#2017. If that is not what you are looking for, please clarify. RudolfRed (talk) 20:19, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
I am finding it increasingly difficult to remain CIVIL when some random person keeps on repeatdedly coming here and demanding I do something to some article I've never heard of about some foreign game that I have no knowledge and less interest in, and calling me names when I don't instantly jump to do whatever it is the poster can't be bothered to learn how to do for themselves. --ColinFine (talk) 22:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Colin, ignore it. I've advised the editor. Lourdes 01:22, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
There have been many requests from this same editor on similar topics. A number have been similarly uncivil, such as Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2017 April 3#2017-18 NHL and NBA templates and Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2016 December 6#2017 College Football conference templates. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Maybe we should tell them to create an account and stop depending on others to do his work for him... --Jayron32 15:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

May 23[edit]

Courtesy titles in the United Kingdom[edit]

Please help - reference number 4 is wrong and I tried to get it right. I am getting rusty (and old). Sorry Srbernadette (talk) 01:02, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, the url field had the publisher details, and the publisher field had the url details. I have corrected them. Thanks. Lourdes 01:13, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

James Matthews (racing driver)[edit]

Ref number 13 is actually from the Daily Mail (UK) - but it was published in the New Zealand Herald - which is what I have recorded. Please check that I have formatted it all correctly. ThanksSrbernadette (talk) 02:27, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

You probably meant reference #14 and not #13. No issues in the formatting. Incidentally, the Daily Mail is not considered a reliable source, least so for BLPs, in which the usage of such a source is prohibited (Daily Mail Rfc). You should consider changing the reference, if the contents were originally sourced from the Daily Mail. Thanks. Lourdes 14:42, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

How do you create a page on an author?[edit]

How do you create a new page on an author? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Creating a new article is one of the more difficult tasks in editing Wikipedia, but for how to go about it, please read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 08:13, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Spencer Matthews[edit]

Opening lines of this page are AGAIN subject to vandalism. I cannot change it. Please monitor this page. Thankyou203.39.128.90 (talk) 06:20, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Although some vandalism had already been corrected I have restored an earlier version. Eagleash (talk) 06:34, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Additionally, I've added temporary pending changes protection to the page. Edits by new and unregistered users will be reviewed before going live. clpo13(talk) 06:38, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

How to get a version hidden of a certain article[edit]

I've reverted <link removed> because it contains cyberbullying. Where do I ask for hiding it? I'm from the Netherlands and on the Dutch Wikipedia I do this all the time but here I don't have any idea where to go to... Oxygene7-13 (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Any Admin. can do that for you (assuming they agree it's necessary). Try Oshwah or Mz7; both usually 'about' and helpful. Eagleash (talk) 16:11, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
On the dutch Wikipedia every name that is not relevant for the encyclopedia will be removed, that's why I asked. And yes, Wikipedia:Revision_deletion#How_to_request_Revision_Deletion is the page I was looking for. THNX! Oxygene7-13 (talk) 16:20, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
I've asked Mz7 to take a look at it so it should get solved. Oxygene7-13 (talk) 16:32, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 Revision deleted. Speaking personally and not for other administrators, I tend to apply revision deletion fairly liberally for WP:BLP issues when full names are used by accounts with few or no other edits, as was the case here. The English Wikipedia policy is not to revision-delete "ordinary" incivility because these may have to be reviewed by the community later for possible community/administrative sanctions. However, in this case, I see little need to retain the information for administrative purposes; it is more beneficial, in my view, to help protect whomever this may have been targeted towards. Mz7 (talk) 00:59, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Creating a Wiki Page for a Organization[edit]

Hello! I am wanting to get information neccessary on getting a wiki page up for our organization, simply because its a global startup.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

If it is a global 'start-up' then it is not notable just yet. Should it later become notable, then you need not worry, as an editor will create a page. Aspro (talk) 20:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
I suggest you read the article on "Up-and-coming next big things". --Orange Mike | Talk 01:26, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, Wikipedia does not keep pages for any organizations, societies or people. Instead it keeps articles about them. That means we're not interested in what organizations and others want to publish about themselves, but rather we base on what others, (i.e. independent, reliable sources) say about them. Additionally, if you say 'our organizations' I really doubt if you should write about it. Please read the Wikipedia policy at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. --CiaPan (talk) 20:56, 23 May 2017 (UTC)


It is a wrong information there was any 1971 INDIA-PAKISTAN war. Actual war name was Bangladesh liberation war. please correct the article.

Page website — Preceding unsigned comment added by Araquib84260 (talkcontribs) 22:05, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

The opening sentence of Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 links to Bangladesh Liberation War. Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 is a common name for the 13-day war between India and Pakistan during the 8-month Bangladesh Liberation War. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

questions regarding $wgAllowExternalImages[edit]

Hello. I'm a frustrated newbie. There are a huge number of great open source cell biology images that have NC licenses and thus cannot be uploaded to the commons. But, from what I can see from it is possible to display (I think the exact term is "render") external images in a sister project's pages if $wgAllowExternalImages is "enabled". Is that enabled on wp? If not, why the heck not? If yes, how do I then use it? Can it be enabled for individual wp articles? I also read on$wgAllowExternalImages about an "external image whitelist". Does wp have such a list? It would seem appropriate at the least to whitelist images fom author manuscripts at the NIH website. I hope I've written coherently enough for my questions to be understood and that this isn't a dead end. @Boghog: Thank you. JeanOhm (talk) 22:39, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

No, to both questions, I'm afraid. MediaWiki software is used by a number of other companies, and includes elements which aren't appropriate for Wikipedia itself, and the ability to display externally hosted images is one of them. (To be more accurate, we have the ability, in that theoretically we can add things to MediaWiki:External image whitelist, but for legal reasons there are no circumstances in which we would ever do so.) Because Wikipedia content is re-usable by anyone for any purpose including commercial re-use, Wikipedia pages can't include images with any kind of restriction on use. (There are some very limited circumstances in which Wikipedia will host fair-use images, but in those circumstances the file should be uploaded to Wikipedia itself at low resolution.) ‑ Iridescent 22:49, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
@Iridescent: Thanks for the reply. Would it be acceptable to put a degraded, low resolution, version of an open NC licensed image onto wp and into the "Gallery" section of an aticle, with a caption indicating that the high resolution image is available at httpWhatEver? JeanOhm (talk) 01:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
@JeanOhm: No for a few reasons. One, all NC licensed images would have to be here under fair use. Fair use here is highly restricted per our policy on the matter. Two, fair use images in galleries is generally unacceptable per WP:NFG. And finally, our policy on external links would place the link to the other site on shaky ground at best.

The best option would be to try to contact the copyright holder of that image and ask them to release it under a non-NC license. Other than that I don't see how you can use it. Sorry. --Majora (talk) 01:28, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

May 24[edit]

Wikilobby page[edit]

How come when I type "Wikipedia noticeboard incidents" into Google it shows me that Wikilobby page instead of the actual incidents page - something should be done about that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Hooves (talkcontribs) 00:40, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@Mr. Hooves: Wikipedia and Google are two completely separate entities and we have zero control over Google's content. If you want something changed on Google you will have to contact them. There is nothing we can do about it. --Majora (talk) 01:11, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents has personal discussions we don't want external search engines to index so we deliberately add noindex to the page. In addition it is also covered by entries in
Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard
Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard
Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard
Disallow: /wiki/Wikipedia_talk%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard
There are multiple entries because the exact url can vary and robots.txt does not allow wildcards or similar. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Wikilobby campaign does currently not have noindex. In theory it should be covered by the above robots.txt entries but somewhere Google found a url with a fifth form and indexed that. Specifically, they found a link saying %2527 instead of %27, where %25 is percent-encoding for % itself. We could add noindex to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Wikilobby campaign to avoid indexing no matter which url a search engine finds. See also Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:12, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
PrimeHunter, if WT:AN is on robots.txt as disallow then that file is broken. Since it comes up on Google as the first search result when I type "Wikipedia admin noticeboard" --Majora (talk) 01:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
The issue is again that Google found a url saying %2527 instead of %27. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard has noindex but Wikipedia talk:Administrators' noticeboard does not. Maybe we should more systematically use {{NOINDEX}} to add noindex to pages instead of relying on url forms in robots.txt. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:52, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Automatic categorization of articles on a template[edit]

Is there a way all articles on template can be placed into category? Best Regards Sulaimandaud (talk) 06:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@Sulaimandaud: Yes, but please don't do it, see WP:TEMPLATECAT. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:05, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Ok got the point. now i have to place 200 articles manually in the category Sulaimandaud (talk) 07:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
@Sulaimandaud:Not necessarily manual. If you have a list of the articles involved and a consensus (or its an obvious required edit) to add the them to that category, you could get it done via a bot or AWB. see WP:BOTREQ or WP:AWB/Tasks - X201 (talk) 08:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Yoon jik-yeon[edit]

This isn't the place for a draft article

About the daughter of South Korean Actor Bae Soo-bin, real name is Yoon Tae-wook.Biological father of Khristine.

Khristine Yoon

Yoon ji-kyeon(2002)

Khristine Grace Manabat Abian(2005)
(2002-02-19) February 19, 2002 (age 15)
Manila, Philippines
Years active 2002—present
  • Bae Soo-bin or Yoon tae-wook Biological Father (s. 2001) John alexander Abian(s. 2005-2017) Step Father. (father)
  • She Anne Manabat (mother)
Korean name
Hangul 윤지문켠
Revised Romanization Yoon ji-kyun
McCune–Reischauer Yun gi-kyun
Birth name
Hangul 윤지켠
Revised Romanization Khristine Manabat Abian
McCune–Reischauer Khristine Grace

"Yoon ji-kyun" (Born Khristine Grace Manabat Abian February 19, 2002) She is the daughter of South Korean Actor Bae soo-bin Or Yoon tae-wook. And She Ann Manabat and John Lio Alexander Lorenzo Abian the step father of Khristine.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:23, 24 May 2017‎ (UTC)

This isn't the place for a draft article. Please read the advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:32, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

New article for politician[edit]


next month there will be general elections in France, and I see that only 1 candidate (former government member) has a wiki article. Is it possible to add a page for the other candidates in my district?

Thank you Best EtienneEtienneSoumoy (talk) 10:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@EtienneSoumoy: It depends on the candidates. WP:POLITICIAN says:
Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article".
PrimeHunter (talk) 10:27, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter:: the candidates are cited in trustworthy newspapers, although there are quite recent candidates, and the quotes were all made when candidates were given the authorization to apply to be an MP by their own party 2 weeks ago. Does it mean a page can be created to report what is known about these candidates?

Thank you EtienneSoumoy (talk) 10:39, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@EtienneSoumoy: The specific candidates and sources would have to be evaluated. I don't know French. WP:POLITICIAN links to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes#Politicians. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:45, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Citing the same source multiple times throughout the Wikipedia page[edit]

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia and I am having trouble citing sources within the document. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmurray06 (talkcontribs) 14:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Looking at the draft you're working on, you're almost there. You first define a source like this: (using your example)
<ref name="Fire Insurance Company">{{cite web|title=An Outstanding Fire Insurance Company|url=|website=migenweb|publisher=The Lowell Ledger|accessdate=23 May 2017}}</ref>
Then, later in the page, when you want to cite again:
<ref name="Fire Insurance Company" /> Xenon54 (talk) 14:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Help editing[edit]

How can I edit a company page correctly without having the information/changes removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaralynDuke (talkcontribs) 14:50, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@CaralynDuke: In general, make sure any changes you make are supported by reliable sources and add citations (see WP:REFB for help on that). If you can please say which page you are trying to edit, then we can provide more specific advice. RudolfRed (talk) 16:29, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Template help[edit]

bsd. I need help adding a logo parameter to this template. Thanks --Ben Stone 15:42, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Can photographs taken illegally be used on Wikipedia?[edit]

The PATH system bans photography within stations without express permission from the transit agency, although as the discussion on this point within in the article indicates, it's questionable whether that's a ban that would hold up to scrutiny in court. At any rate, a user just removed all photographs taken within the system from the article, with the edit summary "Per the restrictions on photography, all images of the PATH system must be able to demonstrate that official permission was granted, else these images were illegally obtained." This strikes me as extremely overzealous: the only restriction on using photos on Wikipedia to my knowledge is that they must be properly licensed, and the legality of the circumstances of how they photos were acquired is irrelevant to that. Am I correct or is the user who removed the photos? --Jfruh (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

May want to take this to Wikipedia talk:Image use policy instead? Seems like a better-targeted venue. That said, I see nothing there clearly indicating, to me, that these pictures would be inappropriate. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 16:46, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Or c:COM:VPC over on Wikipedia Commons. clpo13(talk) 17:34, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Courtesy ping Morphenniel -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:03, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Restricted materials is probably the most relevant information page. You could also try emailing for their position on this. clpo13(talk) 17:34, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
I note that the over-zealous removal of images including this image clearly taken from outside PATH property (note the security fence between the photographer and the train) and this photograph taken from the opposite side of a road, neither of which would be in breach of PATH's restrictions (even if they had force here, which I cannot see that they do). I see that Murph9000 has just reverted the removal, a decision with which I agree. BencherliteTalk 17:54, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Adding pictures to an article[edit]

Can you please explain how I upload pictures into an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmurray06 (talkcontribs) 18:01, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Here's one from my past. Just change the relevant info
[[File:Map of Davenport, Iowa Neighborhoods.png|right|thumb|alt=Description of the image]]
Not sure where there is a better explanation. CTF83! 18:19, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Uploading images DonIago (talk) 19:17, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
To clarify a bit – there is no way to "upload pictures into an article". The normal procedure is to upload pictures to Wikimedia Commons, and then use them in an article. Maproom (talk) 21:15, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Need help[edit]

Note This post copied from the talk page. Eagleash (talk) 19:48, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I've been searching for help on how to upload a page and it tells me to do research but I don't know how to upload one. Can someone help me? And I'm on my mobile device (phone) so is that a problem? Dinah Kirkland (talk) 19:41, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

What page are you trying to upload? If you're talking about actual text, to me it sounds like a potential copyright violation. DonIago (talk) 20:28, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Download as PDF[edit]

This doesn't work right for "List of cognitive biases". The engine doesn't render the big table of biases at all.

I have also tried to get pdf's of articles with equations in them. The equations don't always render right either. To cite a couple of specific examples:

In "Zero-sum game" the constraints (section 2.2) don't display right (probably the latex is not rendering right).

Some bits of latex in "Macroscopic quantum phenomena" didn't render either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

How do I contact a Volunteer/contributor[edit]

I have a specific username from various articles and I have some information I need to pass on. this is all very new and complicated to me. I have the username and my information relates to background on a question he/she posted some time ago. Any help appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Medwar57 (talkcontribs) 20:54, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

In the search box type: User talk:The users name to find their talk page. - X201 (talk) 20:58, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
@Medwar57: You can also click "talk" next to the username in a page history. See more at Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:00, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

New article[edit]

how do you create a new article — Preceding unsigned comment added by KWan1569 (talkcontribs) 21:17, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Symbol move vote.svg To create an article, follow these steps:
  1. Read Your first article carefully.
  2. If you don't have an account, consider creating one (it's not essential, but it makes some things easier, especially communicating with other editors) and logging in.
  3. Learn the basics of editing with the Wikipedia:Tutorial
  4. Make sure the subject is notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article
  5. Gather reliable sources to cite in the article
  6. Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box and clicking 'Search'
  7. Use the Article Wizard to create a draft.
  8. Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines. Base the article on what the references say, rather than on what you know.
  9. Once you believe that your draft meets Wikipedia's requirements, submit it for review by picking the "Submit your draft for review" button in the draft.
  10. Be aware that many drafts are not accepted the first time, or even the second time they are submitted for review, for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are particularly likely not to be accepted, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones. Pppery 22:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Crystal Clear app fonts.svg Please use a descriptive title in future questions.. Also, please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: Button sig.png, but do not sign in articles. Pppery 22:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

May 25[edit]

Infobox books[edit]

I just had a look at Human, All Too Human and wondered whether it wouldn't be better to place the infobox headline at least on the same level as the introduction line – like in other infoboxes, too. otherwise you have this big spacing... What do you think?--Erdic (talk) 02:22, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello Erdic, yes, it sounds a good suggestion and can be done technically. But my view would be that while the opening lines in the article (and in many other similarly designed articles like Orange (fruit)) are about other disambiguated articles, the infobox is specifically about the particular article. Therefore perhaps we should let it remain the way it is, so the infobox details are correlated with the specific article rather than with other articles. This becomes a bit more important in mobile views (for examples, here are the mobile views of Orange and of Human, All Too Human). Thanks. Lourdes 02:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, in this respect you're absolutely right, of course. But what I would suggest is simply including the title in the box – as with probably the most other infoboxes. The aspect you mentioned has something to do with the position of the box as whole, but that would not be affected by my proposal, would it?--Erdic (talk) 02:53, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

AFD record[edit]

Where do I find a user's AFD nomination and !vote record? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Roger, it is normally found at The site appears to be down right now. ~ GB fan 13:25, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks GB fan, yes I've noticed that wmflabs has been very flaky over the last few days. It also makes some mopping jobs difficult/impossible when the tools are unavailable. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

2019 NBA All–Star Game article[edit]

Can you move the 2019 NBA All–Star Game article from the draft to the main article please cause it was announced yesterday. 2600:8803:7A00:976A:A098:D298:72D6:26DD (talk) 13:23, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Advice has been given previously to this editor, see #2017 Army Black Knights football schedule above (but glad to see a more polite request this time). --David Biddulph (talk) 14:51, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

What's A More Polite Request 2600:8803:7A00:976A:A098:D298:72D6:26DD (talk) 17:10, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

This statement "What no article Come on move it to the main article There's a reference I put it in and it needs to be moved now and stop being lazy." Is less then polite. Of course, you could create an account an then you could perform your own page moves. Until then remember that everyone here is a volunteer and no one is required to move anything. MarnetteD|Talk 17:21, 25 May 2017 (UTC)


There is an essay that I would like to propose moving from wikispace to userspace. If it I wanted to delete it, I would use prod or MfD, but is there some sort of template or procedure specifically for proposing the userfication of an essay in wikispace? --Guy Macon (talk) 15:13, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: See WP:USERFY. It has a list of steps to do when moving something from any namespace into userspace. RudolfRed (talk) 18:16, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Cory Stillman[edit]

In attempting to update the page of Cory Stillman, I seem to have created an issue where the summary shows up ahead of the infobox in the mobile version. Any help in correcting the issue would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:03, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

This is intentional and not caused by you. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Infobox placement in mobile view. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Thanks! I didn't realize this was the norm now. I'm just so used to seeing the infobox ahead of the summary in articles regarding hockey players that when it changed following my edit, I thought there was a problem. (talk) 19:14, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Syntax error introduced by AnomieBOT[edit]

User:AnomieBOT introduced a syntax error into reference [1] of HighScope on 2011-02-25T00:16:49‎: Before that edit, [1] was there without a syntax error noted. Since that edit, that note has ended with, “Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "Epstein.2C_A._S." defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).”

The problem is that two different named references use the same name, <ref name="Epstein, A. S.">, referring to two different documents. As a result, the document indicated by <ref name="Epstein, A. S."/> is unclear.

Unless I misunderstand the history file, this syntax error has been there for over six years, and no one has taken the time to fix it.

I don't understand now AnomieBOT could have introduced such, but it looks to me like it did. DavidMCEddy (talk) 20:43, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

"(see the help page)" has a link but these errors can be difficult. The software feature producing the error message was introduced in 2015. The error existed long before that and caused one of the "Epstein, A. S." definitions to be ignored without giving an error message. AnomieBOT fixed another error in [10], unquoted reference names with spaces. This caused the other existing error to activate. I have fixed it with [11] which gives another name to one of the two references. I had to figure out which of the two was intended when "Epstein, A. S." was later invoked without a definition. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 25 May 2017 (UTC)