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June 24[edit]

Source of information.[edit]

I read the wiki page on racism in Israel. How do you know that this is not just opinion? It is clearly bias, racist , anti Zionist article. What are your methods for clarification? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:1300:8B95:61E9:3E85:E243:BF2 (talk) 01:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The content on the article is based off of the citations that follow them. If you have concerns about the reliability of the sources, please discuss them at either WP:RSN or the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tang Xianhu[edit]

I created this page Tang Xianhu and it passes the review. But on Google, it still shows a draft and then redirects to the main page. Can you help to publish it as a main and not as a redirect? Oahid (talk) 02:42, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Oahid: New articles aren't indexed by search engines until 90 days have passed or a new pages patroller approves it, whichever comes first. It's already in mainspace. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
okay got it, thanks! Oahid (talk) 03:04, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to not mark rollbacks as minor[edit]

Somehow, when I rollback, it is marked as a minor edit. Is there a way to disable this (so that Huggle rollbacks won't be minor)? I can't find anything in the preferences that enables this. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 06:23, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so: see WP:MINOR. If you really don't think a rollback is minor just undo the last edit the old fashioned way and add an edit summary. Shantavira|feed me 08:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Logo picture sizes[edit]

Hello Dear Sir/Madam,

I hope you are having a great day/night, depending on your time zone.

Writting this letter in order to explain an issue i recognized earlier. I was reading through articles in wikipedia and i recognized that some logo pictures on numereous amount of pages are sized wrong: some of them are too big to fit in the frame, some of them are too small and lose quality. My question is - what should be a perfect size for picture to be fully optimized in frame of wikipedia, so there wont be any size issues and lose of quality?

Looking forward to your reply,

Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denzo9909 (talkcontribs) 07:19, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It would help if you could give some examples. The aspect ratio can affect how an image appears in the infobox. It is possible to adjust the size manually.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Denzo9909 - Logos are, almost always, copyright, so can only be used under a claim of fair use. As stated at WP:FILESIZE "If the image is copyrighted and used under fair use, the uploaded image must be as low-resolution as possible consistent with its fair-use rationale".
I can't find the guideline at the moment, but somewhere it states that, for free use, it should be not more than 300 px on one side. This means that very detailed logos will lose some of their detail. Conversely, if uploaded less than 200 px wide, it will not display in the infobox correctly, without using an image size parameter. This then magnifies a less detailed image, giving poor quality. - hope that helps - Arjayay (talk) 14:17, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
However, these days fair-use files are automatically shrunken by a bot after awhile, so uploading a whetever res logo works too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:43, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When will be my page publish?[edit]

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Draft:Zorawar Singh
I have created an account with the name of Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert). Cab you please help me out to resolve the issue if there is an issue. PLease review the page and try to update it soon either provide the sufficient information how many time it takes to update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert) (talkcontribs) 07:34, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert): You are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself and many of the sources you have used aren't appropriate as reliable sources. I suggest you use another website, as Wikipedia is not something to promote yourself. It is virtually guaranteed to be declined or rejected. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:55, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) @Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert): You created a draft article on your userpage. That is not allowed and the draft was liable for speedy deletion (under WP:U5, "blatant misuse of Wikipedia as a web host"). To avoid this, I moved it to Draft:Zorawar Singh.
If you are not Zorawar Singh, you will need to change your username (see WP:REALNAME for why, and go to WP:CHUS to request the change).
You will need to provide suitable references that show this person is "notable". See WP:GNG for the details, but 99% of the time (for living people), that means newspaper articles that were written without relying solely on what the subject says. Online newspapers that just link to or reproduce an Instagram video do not count. If you cannot find such sources, you should not spend any more time working on the draft, it will not be accepted no matter how polished it is.
If you are Zorawar Singh, you should avoid editing the draft yourself (see our advice about autobiographies). Similar advice applies if you are related to them (family member, friend, colleague...) - see WP:COI. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 13:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Zorawar Singh (Jump Rope Expert) - Please see Help:Your first article for lots of helpful information, and instructions on submitting your draft for review. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:09, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MfD question[edit]

I noticed that an MfD showed up in the Article Alerts at WP:POD. So I commented at the discussion here, but as far as I can tell no one opened it and there was no rationale for deletion. Since I commented the Article Alert now says "MfDed was closed by TipsyElephant", however, I've never closed a deletion discussion before and don't even know how. What happened and why? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:18, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TipsyElephant: Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Assessment transcludes Wikipedia:Content assessment/A-Class criteria which was MfD'ed in [1]. The next edit added noinclude tags to avoid side effects on other pages. Is it OK if I delete Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Assessment? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter: yeah, go for it. Will it continue to show up in the Article Alerts? TipsyElephant (talk) 15:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@TipsyElephant: I have deleted it and removed it from Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Article alerts.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The bot has readded it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Article alerts. I don't know where the bot gets the data from now. Maybe it was saved offline earlier. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye[edit]

Hi, I need help for Abbey of Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye and Abbey church of Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye, specially about style, spelling and grammar. Both articles are translated from the French. We had a workshop last week-end, where we took more than 1000 pictures of the church and the village, so pictures will be added soon. I will add references when I find them (not easy). Thanks, Yann (talk) 16:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Yann: The church article is almost entirely unreferenced. Have you considered slimming it down somewhat and merging it into the Abbey's article, in a section entitled Church? TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jackie DeAngelis[edit]

In her Wikipedia Biography - you have two (2) mistakes:

1). On one (1) it is stated that Jackie is of SPANISH origin.

2). On another page it is stated in a

     that Jackie is Black.

Both wrongful mistakes are egregiously inaccurate. The SUR NAME “DEANGELIS” is of Italian Origin - not Spanish or Black. Please correct her Bio.

Thank You Jerry Coccoli Hudson Yards, NYC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:4B3E:318E:CCB1:50D8:FD80:3666 (talk) 17:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please direct these comments to the article talk page. Note that a black Spanish person with an Italian name is not an impossibility, especially for a woman. 331dot (talk) 18:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what content the IP editor is referring to. Do we have an biography on Jackie DeAngelis? That article was deleted in 2012 as copyright infringement. RoxySaunders 🏳️‍⚧️ (talk · contribs) 18:53, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
[Edit conflict] Hello, Jerry. English-language Wikipedia does not have an article titled Jackie DeAngelis (which is why that 'wikilink' is red). Can you clarify who you mean (for me, online search results for the name are dominated by a US journalist) and where you have seen this 'Wikipedia biography'? (A link would be helpful.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.201.73.76 (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No trace of her, after a sock-related deletion in January 2021. And the "another page" comment makes me think this isn't a Wikipedia issue. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:58, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

C-Class Articles[edit]

Hello! I have an article that I have created titled Igoeti that is currently graded as Start-Class. Recently, I have been editing this article thoroughly and feel that it may qualify as a C-Class article. Is there any way to have this checked? Thanks! 𝙷𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚘𝚑𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚝 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 22:07, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Helloheart: Perhaps ask at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Georgia_(country). -Arch dude (talk) 22:13, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Vega chart to article[edit]

Hi, I've made a stacked bar chart of electricity usage in Victoria using the Vega graphing tool to add to Energy in Victoria here User:Robert Merkel/GraphTest. Obviously, I could just cut and paste the markup into the article, but it might be nice to able to reuse the chart elsewhere, and I'd also like to add captions and sourcing. Can I add the chart to Wikimedia Commons, and then use it in the article, and if so how? --Robert Merkel (talk) 23:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert Merkel: What is the "Vega graphing tool"? if you are trying to replicate your work at User:Robert Merkel/GraphTest, then I do not think you can directly use the syntax of a English Wikipedia template in a Commons file. If I were trying to do this, I would use gnuplot on my home computer, emit an SVG file, and upload the SVG file to Commons. Converting your template into a gnuplot input file should be straightforward, gnuplot should allow you to create an output that is visually very similar to your template. You can document your work by adding the gnuplot input as part of the file description at Commons. -Arch dude (talk) 15:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Robert Merkel: Here is an example of documenting a file on Commons generated using Gnuplot: c:2012_meningitis_cases.svg. There are probably better ways to do it.-Arch dude (talk) 15:24, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 25[edit]

Paolo Banchero Wikipedia page[edit]

Someone keeps removing Paolo's nationality on the info box. Before it had: Nationality: American / Italian. Listing him as only 'American' is not right. Paolo is a dual American & Italian citizen and on NBA draft night he said he'll be representing Italy. Hence, he's an Italian basketball player. It's a tricky one because he's born in the U.S., holds dual American & Italian citizenship, and will represent Italy at international tournaments. Just having Paolo as an American basketball player is not right, especially when he's registered for Italy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allan.waterhouse (talkcontribs) 05:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Allan.waterhouse: "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability." It's getting removed because until he actually plays for an international squad his nationality isn't particularly relevant to his career as far as Wikipedia is concerned. It's mentioned further down the page, and for now that is all that is necessary. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 06:00, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But FIBA have him registered for Italy. He's switched allegiance and he will be representing Italy at international tournaments and at the Olympics. I don't know what the correct term is, but being referred to as an American basketball player when he's registered to play for Italy is wrong. How can he be called an American basketball player when he plays for Italy? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Again, unless and until he actually plays for Italy it doesn't matter, as his entire career up to this point has been in America. Once he plays for the Italian squad, then it'll change. Not before. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 06:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with that. But why was his Nationality removed in the info box? Other athletes who hold dual citizenship have it listed, why was Paolo's removed? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why is Hanley Ramírez referred to as: Dominican and American former professional baseball shortstop? in the first paragraph? He was born in the Dominican Rep., he has never represented the U.S., and received American citizenship 3 years ago. Why is he referred to in the first sentence as 'Dominican and American' when you can't do the same for Paolo Banchero? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:27, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Visualization issues[edit]

Buckethead and Top Gun: Maverick

Hello I recently came across a problem while viewing wikipedia pages on my ipad. Some are fine (e.g. the Buckethead page I am attaching here) while others are much larger than they used to be (e.g. the Top Gun: Maverick I am attaching also). Any advice as to how to make everything look like the Buckethead page? That’s how it used to be and it makes everything much easier to read. Thank you!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberto.bentivegna (talkcontribs) 13:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an expert on iPads but this may be caused by the zoom settings in the browser. See here for details.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:10, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maxwell Dane[edit]

Mr. Dane’s first wife, Belle Dane, was the mother of his only son and grandmother of his grandchildren. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:184:4980:DA6D:5D08:E6C0:823:517 (talk) 14:46, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you have concerns about an article, please direct them to the associated talk page (e.g., Talk:Maxwell Dane). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:52, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can a person edit a other person’s sandbox?[edit]

Can a person edit a other person’s sandbox? 2604:B000:C218:128F:F9C3:66B:FF8:D35D (talk) 17:23, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is not forbidden (no page is owned by anybody); but it is not customary to edit non-talk pages in a user's space without being invited to. ColinFine (talk) 17:36, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

about the covid new york deaths[edit]

Hi wikipedia, What are u guys doing with the New york Deaths for covid-19? u guys have the SAME EXACT numbers for 22 days in a row :( (71,670) someone Messed Up there :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.20.39.215 (talk) 19:40, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a volunteer project. Maybe the volunteer who has been updating those numbers is on vacation. You can just fix it yourself. Cullen328 (talk) 19:50, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Or you could try reading what it says and compare to sources. COVID-19 pandemic in New York (state)#Timeline says 71,670 deaths and "CDC cumulative death data paused from June 6, 2022 to June 21, 2022 due to CDC system upgrades." https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/fatalities-0 currently says "Total Fatalities reported to and compiled by CDC: 71,670". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:34, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 26[edit]

COP[edit]

I want to donate but you are asking me to pay in Colombia pesos. I can only donate in USA dollars. So how do I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.133.130.47 (talk) 00:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't ask for donations; the Wikimedia Foundation does. It might be where you're located, but this page has more information. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My content is being removed i need reason[edit]

I have been adding content and linking it to the proper source but still, my content is removed every time I need to know the reason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghav247 (talkcontribs) 05:27, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Website homepages are absolutely worthless as sources. You need to link to specific pages on that domain if they're to be considered as sources, otherwise you're only making more work for us. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 05:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver Onions[edit]

Hi, This edit is technically beyond me, so I'd like to ask someone else to do it.

In the first introductory paragraph of the entry for writer Oliver Onions, the first sentence ends with "over 40 novels" and cites Kunitz and Haycraft. Two things: 1. I have this book, and this quantity of works is not mentioned there, so the reference is incorrect. 2. All the research I've done suggests that Onions did not write this number of novels, so it's also incorrect factually.

I could edit out the sentence to simply read "and novels" and remove the reference at that point. But that would mess up the numbering of the references, which I don't know how to fix.

Hoping someone who has better skills can sort this one out.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Mike Walmer Spikenard65 (talk) 07:56, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spikenard65, I have changed "over 40 novels" to "novels" and moved the reference as it is used later in the article. TSventon (talk) 09:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Spikenard65 (talk) 05:45, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TRAPPIST-1 citation error[edit]

TRAPPIST-1 insists that the Vallenari 2022 ref has no target, even though it has. And the reference even links to it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jo-Jo Eumerus I don't see an error in the article. Did you fix it? GoingBatty (talk) 04:32, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jo-Jo Eumerus and GoingBatty: After poking around a bit with Special:ExpandTemplates, I saw how the error category was being added and looked up the way to suppress it: Template:Sfn#Link works but displays a no target error. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Copying and translating content of another page in a different language[edit]

I would like to copy this page from German Wikipedia to the English Wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_von_Graffen

At one point it existed in english but someone deleted all the information. I would like to reinstate it - with all the links. I am completely new to editing Wiki pages so I have no idea how to do this. Many thanks AngieLCL (talk) 11:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We already have an article: Karl von Graffen. As for translating from the German Wikipedia article, this might be problematic, as their article doesn't seem to cite much in the way of sources (or at least, to make clear where the content is sourced to), which we would require. Any translated content would have to be attributed: see Help:Translation. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:54, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Claim of Conflict of Interest & Copyright[edit]

Hi, I am the Website Officer for Phoenix Reading Hockey Club and have full control of the content on prhockeyclub.co.uk. I have recently began to create a Wiki page for our club - this information is unbias, strictly factual, and as per everything I write from a neutral perspective.

The information I supplied was initially claimed to be Copyrighted material. As the Website Officer for the club, I give assurances that it is not Copyright material, and is simply a background on how the club was formed.

The second dispute was a Conflict of Interest. I am an un-paid employee for the club. The only paid employees are external coaches or specialists.

My question: how do I upload any neutral and unbias information about our club without the constant disputes? As the Website Officer, I am one of the most qualified people to supply history and information on the club.

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeJones1993 (talkcontribs) 16:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GeJones1993 Please read about conflict of interest. If you are compensated for your position and/or work, the Terms of Use require you to make a formal disclosure, please see WP:PAID for instructions. Please understand Wikipedia has articles, not "wiki pages". Articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the topic. Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization says about itself or what it considers to be its own history; a Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. In short, Wikipedia is interested in what others say the history of your club is, not what it says it is. 331dot (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@GeJones1993: By law, Any material that is published anywhere is copyrighted automatically. This includes the material you your web site. Unless the copyright holder explicitly, in writing, licenses the material or releases to the public domain, we cannot allow it on Wikipedia. Your best move here is to add a copyright notice on your web site that explicitly licenses the material under a license that is acceptable to Wikipedia. CC-BY-SA is the usual license. -Arch dude (talk) 17:12, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But while Arch dude's suggestion would deal with the copyright issue, it would not address the (ir)relevance of the content of your club's website to a Wikipedia article about the club. While an article may source a small amount of uncontroversial factual information from non-independent sources, it is unlikely that material published by the club will be suitable in tone or point of view. ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@GeJones1993: When I look at prhockeyclub.co.uk I see that the bottom of the page states "©Pitch Hero Ltd 2008-2022". The Terms of Service also state in two places that the material is protected by copyright. GoingBatty (talk) 04:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Eunice Shade[edit]

Hi. I am Eunice Shade. This page in wikipedia is about me: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunice_Shade I would like to erase the page but I do not know why some users of wikipedia do not allow me. Please help me to erase the page, the page is about my life and I do not want my life there, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eunicelopezsanchez (talkcontribs) 18:49, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but this is the help page for the English-language Wikipedia. We have no control over content on the Spanish-language Wikipedia and you will have to resolve the matter there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:04, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Eunicelopezsanchez Try asking here: [3] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism help request from {{subst:Flyabynyt}}[edit]

I have noticed some vandalism at Stavros Halkias. Namely, Stavros recently left his position as one of the hosts of the podcast Cum Town. A Wikipedia user added a "controversies" section to his Wikipedia page which contains poorly sourced information which is not notable or relevant. I believe this was motivated by a personal dislike of the subject, and don't believe the section belongs on the article. Other users have attempted to remove the most egregious parts of this section, but users keep reverting the changes. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Flyabynyt (talk) 19:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please help with AfD listing Secular clergy page[edit]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bodding (talkcontribs)

Courtesy link Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secular clergy

See also Lay ministry.   Maproom (talk) 22:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, exactly my point. Well said. see Lay ecclesial ministry. But they are not clergy. The title does not confer membership into the clergy. Only Ordination can do that, and that includes the Greek Orthodox and Anglican churches. Lay and secular do not equal clergy. But I can understand it seeming so. Altar servers are not clergy, yet they serve right along side priests at the altar. Bodding (talk) 23:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to cite the same book (Google Print vs Google Ebook)[edit]

I'm working on a draft with a friend and I've come across an issue where I have a book that has two different Google Books pages and also two different ISBN numbers, despite being the same book. The only difference between them I can discern is that one is a print edition and the other is an Ebook edition, despite both being accessible and viewable in Google Books now. You can even see a link in the upper left of the former stating "View Ebook" that links to the latter page. What's the best way to cite these in a reference list? Should they be separate references entirely? SilverserenC 22:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sivlerseren. A citation of a book is to the book - possibly to a particular edition of the book, but not to any particular format. The citation should contain useful bibliographic information such as title, author, publisher, date, page number (in the edition of that date). For convenience of the reader it is helpful to include things like ISBN, and link to Google Books, but these are not an essential part of the citation. If you find two different formats have different ISBNs you should ideally give the ISBN of the copy you consulted (it sometimes used to be the case that hardback and paperback versions of a book had different ISBNs - I don't know whether this still happens). Some Ebook formats do not have fixed pagination (it depends on the user's formatting choices), so it seems undesirable to cite that format if it can be avoided. I guess that if you find the passage in a Google Books snippet and can verify it has the same information, you can then cite that edition, as you have consulted it.
This is a bit of a rambling answer: does it help? ColinFine (talk) 23:21, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A bit, @ColinFine:. The main issue here is that when searching the draft subject's name in the preview options for both Google Books pages, you actually get different results. One shows two pages discussing the subject and the other shows 5 different pages, including the Appendix, discussing the person. Herein lies the dilemma and is probably why my fellow editor included them as separate references. SilverserenC 23:24, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 27[edit]

Determining Consensus[edit]

Hello,

I am interested in helping out with moving pages, but I am worried that I will misjudge consensus at WP:RM. Is there anything that I should look out for when determining consensus at that page? And another question : Would one editor supporting a move until the time elapses be considered a consensus? I am trying to learn how to properly determine the conditions for this policy. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 03:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One Mega Group[edit]

Why was my edit of an article removed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Mega_Group — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themissmargaux (talkcontribs) 07:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This edit had a promotional tone and used very unencyclopedic language. There may also be a conflict of interest if you are linked to this company.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, a great deal of unsourced content was added, the sources that were used were mostly primary, and a bunch of inappropriate inline external links were inserted in the lede. @Themissmargaux, there are a great many policies you should spend some time getting up to speed on before making such huge changes (especially WP:COI, as mentioned above). 174.21.23.32 (talk) 07:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, the draft you just submitted will not be accepted, for all of the same reasons. 174.21.23.32 (talk) 07:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why this doesn't change to collapsible?[edit]

I tried to copy Template:Montgomery County, Maryland to my user subpage as User:40bus/County templates with minor changes. But it doesn't change to collapsible. Which is wrong? --40bus (talk) 07:47, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]