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December 2[edit]

False Trigger warning[edit]


While editing the page I was given a Trigger Warning - that my edit may pose possible conflict of interest or it is self promotion.

My edit merely stated the facts. I added in a paragraph that outlined a actual example of a Temporary Autonomous Zone with a link to an article explaining how the event was designed as a Temporary Autonomous Zone.

How is this any different to the other 'Implementations' example on the same page - regarding the Cacophony Society with a link to an article explaining how it was an example of a Temporary Autonomous Zone?

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Opoeian (talkcontribs) 01:19, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Opoeian, your edit to Temporary Autonomous Zone included a link to a page that had your Wikipedia username in the URL. My guess is that is what prompted the warning. I see that you submitted a similar change in September to that page and it was reverted by Graywalls. The primary issue here is that you might have a WP:COI with that source and adding that source to an article could be seen as WP:SELFPROMOTE. A secondary issue is that blog entries are not WP:RS. You have only three contribs thus far, two on the Temporary Autonomous Zone article and one here. You might want to make some other contributions elsewhere on Wikipedia to learn what are acceptable contributions. I realize that that Wikipedia has a fairly steep learning curve, and Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers is a part of the ethos, but I feel justified in at least nibbling at you here a bit. :-) Make some edits elsewhere, learn how things work, avoid conflicts of interest. Cxbrx (talk) 05:06, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Please do not falsely edit ANY Wikipedia pages as people may need them, and it is just wrong to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:13, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

November 30[edit]

Possible vandalism at Jefferson (proposed Pacific state) article and map[edit]

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Jefferson (proposed Pacific state)

Hello. Looking at Jefferson's page, the proposed state between Oregon and California, I found something weird. This "electoral" map in the article corresponds to the counties, in Oregon and California, listed in the article that should be interested to form this new state (see 20th and 21st century sections). And corresponds to the original 2016 version of the state map at the infobox. The southern Jeffersonian border with California encompasses the counties of Mendocino, Lake, Colusa, Sutter, Placer and El Dorado; just north of Sacramento. And this line is confirmed in the article. On June 7, 2020, a user uploaded a new version of the map and, after it, changed several parameters at the infobox. Just take a look to both version: original vs updated. Without any reason given for this update, Sutter County (the white recess in southern red border, next to Sacramento) is removed form Jefferson. And some Californian counties are added: Amador, Calaveras, Tuolumne, Mariposa and Stanislaus (see Cal county map).

Well, this addition, showing a sort of thumbs-up 👍 in the map, made me suspect vandalism. The expansion seems arbitrary: it is unexplained, unsourced and there is not a single word about, both in the article and in the discussion. Most of counties are rural and show similarities with Northern Californian counties but, apart from the strange shape that seems to stretch towards the Bay Area... In which way Stanislaus County (and its seat, Modesto) are related to Jefferston? And why, following the new shape, the rural counties of Mono and, above all, Alpine, that show more similarities to the others, have been excluded? To create a California Panhandle? Why, again, Sutter County was removed? With a couple of random edits (Commons for map, here for infobox), without any reason given and any source added, a user made this change that should be investigated. And if you try to flip upside-down the map you'll see, clearly, a "thumbs-up" gesture. Highlighted by the providential removal of Sutter County (without its shape the arm is highlighted), the addition of Stanislaus (the thumb), Mariposa (the rest of the fist) counties, and the exclusion of Alpine and Mono counties, that would have deformed the hand.

I didn't do any revert in the article because, assuming good faith, it should be a valid edit: this could be a real initiative of the Jefferson State Movement (I dunno the name of the organization, sorry) and can have a satirical significance, deliberately provocative, or factual: I read the meaning of the XX flag and a "thumbs-up" shaped state should match their style. But the removal of a county that could be interested and related (Sutter), the addition of a unrelated one (Stanislaus) just to form the thumb, and other oddities, leave me perplexed. Anyway: it could be the slowness of my PC, but the official Jeffersonian website (this) isn't working, so I can't control their official map. So, I report this weird fact here but I take no action, assuming the good faith of the user who updated the map and the infobox, including a thorough update of area, population etc (another thing that makes me think of good faith). If the Jefferson website works on your computers, you can check the map. In case of vandalism I recommend to ask to some Commons' user to rollback this file to the original version and to revert this edits.

My 2 cents: if this new map turns out to be a fake, the user who updated it should have visited (in good faith) an unofficial/satirical/fake Jefferson-related website. Thank you for the interest and sorry if my report was wrong. In that case, the new counties should be added in the article. Good bye and good work. -- (talk) 01:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

You're better off discussing this at that article's talk page. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 02:17, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

How Do I Make see newly created page (ANTLIVE)[edit]

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Draft:Antlive

How do I make Antlive wiki page available for public. I created a page but can not see it?

it saids its a draft or does not exist a=but I see where its created , I want to make Antlive page Live for public — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antlive1970 (talkcontribs) 06:12, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Antlive 1970: You have created an item in the draft space which has not yet been submitted for review. However, if you were to do so it would almost certainly be declined. The most important issue is that it is not properly sourced. Biographical articles cannot be accepted into the encyclopedia without proper sourcing. It is also doubtful that the subject passes the notability guidelines. Please see WP:REFB for the guidelines on how to correctly add citations. Further, autobiographical articles are not encouraged and may not always be a good idea. There is a lot of boldtext in the draft which should be removed other than bolding of the subject name at the first mention. Please also review WP:COI for more information about manging a conflict of interest. Some links will be left at your talk page; please study them carefully before proceeding further. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 07:09, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
@Antlive1970:(edit conflict) I have added a submit button to your draft. Howewer, if it were to be submitted right now, it would probbably be rejected quickly, as the "Biography" section is unsourced in its entirity. Wikipedia is not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. This appears to be an autobiography, if so, please be advised that a Wikipedia article may not nessesarely be desireable. What I have noticed apart from that:
  • The current draft makes excessive use of bolface. Please reduce it to what is nessesary under MOS:BOLD.
  • You can create internal links, in its simplest form, by putting the name in square brackets: [[Example]] creates Example.
  • The "Biography" section currently uses double line breaks in source to force a certain line length. Please don't do that, let the browser handle that automatically. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 07:12, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
@Antlive1970: In addition to the useful information above, the tone is also inappropriate for an encyclopedia. It needs to be more neutral, and written less like a fan article. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 02:15, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

User Contributions[edit]

Hello, I am reasonably new to Wikipedia and went into my User Contributions where I saw one of my changes had a +72 next to it. I do not know what this means nor do I know what it does, how does green positive numbers help me on Wiki? Secondly, is there a way to see your total amount of green positive points? I am not sure and would love some info, regards anon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommiemac (talkcontribs) 10:32, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Tommiemac That number is not a points system; it simply reflects the number of bytes added with that particular edit, or if the number is red, the number of bytes removed. The number of bytes is roughly analogous with the number of characters the edit added, but not exactly. 331dot (talk) 10:35, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
331dot Thanks, I am curious however, is there a point system? or a way to see how your edits are doing, if they are popular?
Tommiemac Note: pings do not work unless you sign your talk page posts with four tildes like this: ~~~~ To answer you, I'm not sure what you mean by "how your edits are doing". If you make an edit and it remains in the article, then it remains in the article. Particular edits are not measured for popularity. There are tools to measure the traffic to a particular article(though I don't know what those are off the top of my head) but not particular edits, unless users make talk page comments about particular edits. 331dot (talk) 10:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Tommiemac, not really. You can see the number of pageviews (View history > pageviews) for a specific page or article, but not on edit-level. If someone reverts one of your edits, you get a notification, probably meaning that at least someone didn't like your edit. You can see a list of your edits at [1]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Tommiemac, and welcome to the Teahouse and Wikipedia. Our focus here is on the encyclopaedia, not on editors. There are various ways that editors can acknowledge other editors, such as Thanks and Barnstars, but they are mostly unofficial. What matters is whether, according to consensus of editors, your edits improve Wikipedia or not: if they do, you will earn respect (though it will not necessarily get shown explicitly); if they don't, they will get removed, and you will probably get frustrated. --ColinFine ([[User

talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 10:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks everyone, my question is now closed.

Fair use audio file rejected[edit]

User talk:The Supermind#Fair use

User uploaded File:S.M.I.L.A by Alexander Ozolin .mp3, used (as far as I can tell) {{Music sample info}} as instructed on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples#Guidelines, added it to an article and got instantly reverted by JJMC89's bot.

This doesn't make sense to me. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: One possibility is that the rationale template {{Music sample info}} is very old and hasn't been modified to be recognized by the bot. Another possibility is that the bot recognizes that the rationale does not name the article--thus failing WP:NFCC#10c. —teb728 t c 13:26, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
@Pokechu22 and Ojorojo: You made the last major edits to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples. @Esprit15d: You added {{Music sample info}}. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: Looking closer, I see that the problem is that The Supermind entered the wrong header on their non-free use rationale. They wrote:
Rationale of fair use for "S.M.I.L.A" audio sample
It should have been
Rationale of fair use for "Kiev Day and Night" sample
with the title of the article where the sample is used. I don't know whether it makes a difference, but they also used an h2 header, whereas the template would have generated an h3. —teb728 t c 18:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Per WP:NFCC#10c the rationale must contain a link to or the title of the article. At the time of removal, as teb728 points out, it did not. As it stands, the current use fails WP:NFCC#8 anyway. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:28, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
JJMC89 identifies the problem: "Does not satisfy WP:NFCC#8. The song is trivially mentioned, not the subject of sourced critical commentary." However in contrast with his bot, it details the violation with WP:NFCC, without specific problem of the file.The Supermind (talk) 09:48, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Deployment evaluation tools[edit]

Number of IPv6 prefixes and AS on the Internet since 2003
Monthly IPv6 allocations per RIR

Google publishes statistics on IPv6 adoption among Google users. A graph of IPv6 adoption since 2008 and a map of IPv6 deployment by country are available.[1]

Exposition whose purpose here is unclear
Number of IPv6 prefixes and AS on the Internet since 2003
Monthly IPv6 allocations per RIR

Google publishes statistics on IPv6 adoption among Google users. A graph of IPv6 adoption since 2008 and a map of IPv6 deployment by country are available.[2][3]

Akamai publishes by-country and by-network statistics on IPv6 adoption for traffic it sees on its global Content Distribution Network (CDN). This set of data also shows graphs for each country and network over time.[4]

A global view into the history of the growing IPv6 routing tables can be obtained with the SixXS Ghost Route Hunter.[5] This tool provided a list of all allocated IPv6 prefixes until 2014 and marks with colors the ones that were actually being announced into the Internet BGP tables. When a prefix was announced, it means that the ISP at least can receive IPv6 packets for their prefix.

The integration of IPv6 on existing network infrastructure may be monitored from other sources, for example:

IPv6 testing, evaluation, and certification[edit]

A few organizations are involved with international IPv6 test and evaluation, ranging from the United States Department of Defense to the University of New Hampshire.

--— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 2020-11-30T12:41:06 (UTC)

What is your question regarding editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 12:59, 30 November 2020 (UTC)


  1. ^ {{cite web |url= |title=IPv6 adoption |date= |accessdate=2014-01-21 |archive-url=htt
  2. ^ "IPv6 adoption". Archived from the original on 2014-01-11. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
  3. ^ "Per-country IPv6 adoption". Archived from the original on 2014-01-11. Retrieved 2014-01-21.
  4. ^ "IPv6 adoption visualization". Akamai. Archived from the original on 2016-11-22. Retrieved 2016-11-21.
  5. ^ "SixXS Ghost Route Hunter". Archived from the original on 2003-02-12. Retrieved 2012-01-20.
  6. ^ "IPv6 Enabled Networks". Archived from the original on 2014-08-26. Retrieved 2014-08-25.
  7. ^ "IPv6 transit". Archived from the original on 2011-12-23. Retrieved 2012-01-20.
  8. ^ "IPv6 services in Japan". Archived from the original on 2012-01-21. Retrieved 2012-01-20.
  9. ^ "IPv6 Ready Logo Site - Home". Archived from the original on 2008-07-21. Retrieved 2020-07-17.

Get stimulus[edit]

Good morning I am a retired senior citizen and I am on SSI I am trying to get the $2400 stimulus from the city I’m sure I qualify by being on SSI I am in dire need of utility food and home repair my garage has fell in on my vehicle can I please please get some help or can someone contact me and tell me which department do I contact for the stimulus this out there thank you so much and may God bless you and please stay safe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesse0334 (talkcontribs) 13:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Jesse0334. I'm sorry for your problems, but I'm afraid you have come to the wrong place: this is the help desk for people editing Wikipedia - nothing else - and probably nobody here can help you. I suggest you go to your city's website, or contact a local charity. --ColinFine (talk) 13:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

How to use good judgement? Any general rules?[edit]

Although I have I have reverted and reported a lot of bad edits, I also have made a lot of inappropriate decisions, especially with sockpuppet investigations, reports, and reverts for less-obvious cases. How to know what to do? Especially in reporting users for being vandalism-only and promotion-only. How to know if content has been blanked for no reason or has been blanked for good reason? How to know is it is unsourced or restated or obvious II? See my talk page. I need help. 4thfile4thrank (talk) 16:41, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@4thfile4thrank: Welcome to Wikipedia. WP:AGF is the general rule, and judgement comes from experience. If something has been blanked with no edit summary, then you may revert it and then ask the user for their reasons by starting a discussions on the article's talk page. I suggest holding off on reporting users as vandalism only or promotion only until you have more experience with Wikipedia in general. Perhaps ask for a mentor at WP:CVUA if fighting vandalism is something you are interested in. RudolfRed (talk) 19:26, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
@4thfile4thrank:, another good method can also be just talking to the individual. Sure, the more-discrete socks will be able to talk to you without you picking any more of an indication, but vandals, bad-faith editors, undisclosed paid editors and less intelligent socks can be picked out from a conversation with them, while helping you filter those who just need a helping hand (or those who disagree firmly, in good faith, who can often be nudged to the light side) Nosebagbear (talk) 19:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Is is okay to report those who have only introduced spam links, or have solely inserted bad words multiple times, as vandalism-only accounts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4thfile4thrank (talkcontribs) 19:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
@4thfile4thrank: The top-level rule is "be bold" (WP:BOLD). Use your best judgement, knowing that if others disagree they will revert you, which will lead to a discussion (WP:BRD). For reversions of bad edits, you might temper this a little for marginal cases by starting the discussion yourself on the talk page or user's talk page at the time you make the reversion. We have about 100,000 active editors in any 30-day period, and each of us does what we enjoy and what we want to do. I do not like controversy much, so I don't do a lot of bad-edit reversion. You may get better advice somewhere else, like at Wikipedia talk:Spam or Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol. -Arch dude (talk) 18:55, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Photo Copyright or not?[edit]

I would enjoy offering my time to this project. I would like to add images of artworks (most created before 1965) for students to have high quality images of particular artists. The majority of these images come from already published photographs of the artworks from various auction houses (I have collected these images for years). I have read various article here but honestly I am lost on if these can be used due to any copyright issue. These pictures are already published/public but perhaps I still need permission (artist estate, auction house, both?). If this is of any importance, I usually download the image to my desktop, crop out the frame around the artwork and then screenshot the result. I state this because I would think the only metadata would be from that and I do not know if that may be a "no-no" also. Thank you for your time, I really would like to do this but want to do it correctly!


1. Can I use freely available (non charge) images of artworks created before 1965? The images of the artwork were generally produce by various auction houses and have been freely distributed since.

2. If so, can I use a screen shot to remove any frame work from the picture?

3. If so do I need to state where the photographs came from and if so how?

Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NightBird1029 (talkcontribs) 22:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@NightBird1029: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for asking about copyright. If you don't get an answer here, I suggest you ask at WP:MCQ, where the copyright experts hang out. RudolfRed (talk) 01:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
NightBird1029 Here is some advise but perhaps others will also chip in. If you don't comply, then the images will most likely be deleted which wastes your time and that of editors who have to deal with them.
  • 1. Not necessarily and remember that freely distributed does not means freely licensed.
  • 2. It is preferable not to use a screenshot but just to crop the frame with an image editing program so you start with the best quality. However, non-free images will be reduced to a low resolution if they are considered too big.
  • 3. Absolutely you MUST state the original source so it can be reviewed by more experienced editors but it sounds like that may be difficult for older images you have saved especially if the sources are offline.
For you to use any of these images, each one must comply with all 10 non-free copyright criteria in the article you want to use them in. Generally you may be allowed to use one copyright image in articles to illustrate the artist's style but you will have to provide some sourced critical commentary about the image itself, which can often be described in prose. This is required to comply with criteria #8 of WP:NFCC#8. ww2censor (talk) 20:25, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

December 1[edit]

Is there a way to remove auto-saved edit summaries from the VisualEditor?[edit]

I posted this question in the Teahouse.

As you can see, one person told me that what I'm seeing is browser-side, and I replied with two fairly concrete reasons why that isn't the case. Since then, I've heard nothing more, and I'm concerned that my question will get archived before someone has a chance to answer it properly. So I thought I would try posting here, especially since I'm not clear on the difference between this Help Desk and the Teahouse.

Is there a place that is more appropriate to ask questions specific to VisualEditor?


--1980fast (talk) 00:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

1980fast The Teahouse is geared towards new and/or inexperienced users; the Help Desk is for anyone. 331dot (talk) 00:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
@331dot: Thanks for clarifying that for me! This was definitely where I should have posted from the start, then. I hope the link I made doesn't break if my Teahouse question does get archived. :) 1980fast (talk) 00:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with you posting here, BTW. 331dot (talk) 01:16, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
@1980fast: If you don't get an answer here, you can try posting at [[2]]. There is also Visual Editor documentation at WP:VE you can look at to see if it has what you're looking for. RudolfRed (talk) 01:51, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

How to add/subtract numbers by column in the table?[edit]

It was seen here that I will edit something with addition with multiple columns in one row. There were 50 states plus DC, and its 5 territories of the U.S., but how does it work to equal the number in the totals? (Note that it also takes >8 seconds to load this template page and also errors/problems while loading the table's visual editor, since it was repeated and doesn't work).

Also, how to subtract three columns, to equal something in one row (for example,in the same page table, it was total confirmed cases - deaths - recoveries = active cases)?Evan0512 (talk) 03:20, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Somebody maliciously edits my Dad's Page;[edit]

thank you!


I have and had a great posting on my Dad, irv was extensive and true and compiled by a professor friend Brad Verter, PhD and me...somebody does not like the site and has dismantled much of it. I repost it, they dismantle there anything that can be done about malicious editing? thank you Paul Docktor MD 303 523 8700 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:280:4:1213:CCC:C5B2:1B4D:C375 (talk) 03:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Please start a discussion on the article's talk page to get consensus on what material should or should not be included in the article. RudolfRed (talk) 05:11, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
I see no reason to assume malice. Long lists of a subject's works are generally not appropriate in Wikipedia articles. Maproom (talk) 21:50, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible glitch?[edit]

I added a space on the Leipzig War Crimes Trials page, as seen [here], but for some reason, it doesn't seem to register that as an additive edit, even though I didn't make any subtraction to cancel it out as far as I can tell. Is this a glitch, or is there a reason it's treated as a "zero" edit? Maximajorian Viridio (talk) 07:09, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@Maximajorian Viridio: You aparently also removed a space from the end of that paragraph, resulting in the size change to be zero. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:14, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft to mainspace[edit]

FYI – Heading added by Tenryuu.

I was wondering if someone could help me with changing the name of the page titled "Draft:Montana Jacobowitz" to just "Montana Jacobowitz." Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamlillyk (talkcontribs) 08:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@Iamlillyk: I have added a AFC draft template to the top of the page. Click the Submit the draft for review! button when you feel you are ready. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 08:30, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref 2[edit]

the company is now leading in South Africajj, jami is instant message — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

This appears to relate to Jami (software), but the problem has since been fixed. However, there does seem to be some edit-warring going on, with some IPs on 41.144.85 repeatedly inserting unsourced information about the developers. If that is you, anonymous poster, please discuss this on the article's talk page before inserting it again. Wikipedia needs reliable sources for information. (I have removed the sample image gallery above, as it seemed to have been inserted by mistake). --ColinFine (talk) 14:51, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Template html formatting question[edit]

Hi! I have a template question for Template:Ars nova and Template:Ars subtilior. I can't get the "Also music theorist*" and "Category" both centered in the middle properly – this is due to my use of navigational arrows to other topics at the bottom, but surely there must be a way to keep the arrows but center the other two items properly? Best - Aza24 (talk) 08:29, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Request to Move a Page ([edit]

Hello, Our museum has legally changed its name, but I am new to Wikipedia and have been unable to Move the page myself. Please advise how we can make this name change to our page, so that our Wikipedia page has up to date information on it.

The pages is currently: We have changed our name from "Arthur Child Heritage Museum" to "1000 Islands History Museum"

Thank you, Samantha, Museum Coordinator IslandsMuseum (talk) 16:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi @IslandsMuseum: please see Wikipedia:Requested moves. And also: Help:How to move a page, may be of interest to you. Seagull123 Φ 17:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 Done Article is now moved to 1000 Islands History Museum. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

screen size[edit]

How do I reduce the screen size? Too large, accidentally.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 18:22, 1 December 2020 (UTC)y.

@Dthomsen8: Do you mean the page zoom? Probbably Ctrl+0, but that is essentially browser-dependent. Most browsers also have some Menu UI to change that value. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
In Windows, use CTRL and minus sign, pressed simultaneously.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:12, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Fair use rationale[edit]

Hi there, I’m hoping for some help with making sure I have included all the necessary details for fair use images. For example, File:Priscilla Jana.jpeg has the fair use information I entered when I uploaded it, all listed under “Media data and Non-free use rationale”, but there’s also an instruction to append a fair use rationale. Should I do it a second time/is there something still missing that I’m overlooking? I want to be clear the image is only being used in one entry. I note there’s also an instruction to patrollers to tick off the “has rationale” box, so maybe it just hasn’t been patrolled? Thanks to anyone who can straighten me out! Innisfree987 (talk) 19:22, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

How to handle copyrighted pictures of notable figures[edit]

What is the most common method for finding images of famous people that are free of copyright? I assume you can't just rip a picture from their instagram because they're assumed to be copyrighted.

Also, for example, would it be enough to get the person to post a picture on social media, then explicitly state that the picture is free for anyone to use? Or is there a larger legal process required?

I checked the copyright FAQ before posting this. --MaferPues (talk) 19:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

I’m not sure about the process for their releasing the image but to find already freely licensed images, one place to try is this search engine: Be sure to tick the boxes that all modifications and commercial use. Also note you will need to verify the license (eg sometimes Flickr users will upload and license a pic they obviously did not make themselves and therefore cannot license). But it’s a good place to start. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
@MaferPues: This is a constant problem. The only certain way to get an image is to use a camera and take a picture of the figure yourself. When this is not feasible, next-best way is to positively identify the photographer and get the photographer to explicitly license the image under a compatible license. You may be able to get the subject's agent to do this for you. This mess is caused by the fact that we adhere to copyright law, and copyright law is a horrible mess. Pictures are not "assumed to be copyrighted": they ARE copyrighted (unless they are old enough for their copyright to have expired). The holder of a copyright may may release it into the public domain or or may license it, but either of these requires an explicit written action. -Arch dude (talk) 19:57, 1 December 2020 (UTC)


Does Wikipedia add a processing fee to donation gifts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:08, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. You donate to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF), not to "Wikipedia". None of the money you donate goes to the millions of volunteer "editors" who actually create the content of the hundreds of Wikipedias (one for each language) and other Wikimedia projects. Instead, WMF spends the money on the computers and internet connectivity needed to support all those projects and the paid employees (IT staff, etc.) that support it, plus other paid staff, outreach programs, and other expenses. WMF is a non-profit (formally a 501(c)(3) organization) so its annual budget is a matter of public record. There is no "processing fee", but if you pay by credit card or Paypal, the credit card company and Paypal will grab some of the money. -Arch dude (talk) 23:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

When should an actor/actress or a musician get a separate filmography or discography page?[edit]

I noticed some individuals have a separate page whereas other individuals with a longer history of work don't. What consitutes as getting a separate page? Is it just the willingness to create one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redroseriver (talkcontribs) 22:45, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Nope - it's the number of sources available. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 23:11, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, but I'm still a bit confused. Can you please elaborate? What is the difference between Colin Farrell and Michael Fassbender for example? Colin has the longer career, and all of his works have its own Wikipedia article so obviously there are sources to verify them. Why does one have a separate page and the other doesn't? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redroseriver (talkcontribs) 00:12, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't think "number of sources" can explain it, since almost all A-list actors have sufficient coverage, a standalone article could be made for most. As far as I have been able to see, pages are split when: 1) The section on the main article has become too long, and 2) Someone is in the mood to split them. So, it's arbitrary. While Wikipedia does have a few short standalone filmography pages, I view them as being unnecessary. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I agree, the answer to the question as to why some actors have a separate filmography page is, "because somebody has decided to create one." There is nothing stopping you doing the same for any actor with a substantial career who does not have one. Turner Street (talk) 13:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

TYPO in the number of COVID-19 deaths in the United States[edit]

The number of COVID-19 deaths listed on the portal page for the United States is much higher than the number for the entire world including the United States. Since this is impossible, it would seem to be either a typo or vandalism. The number listed is about 10 times the number listed on the page for COVID-19 in the United States. Kent Davis, D.O.

Hello, anonymous editor. Portal:Coronavirus disease 2019 is the page you refer to, I assume? It looks fine to me now.--Quisqualis (talk) 19:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Text is not being show on page after a save[edit]

Hi Folks. For some reason the edited text I'm putting in is not showing up in the page when I save it. At User:Scope creep/Sandbox B22, the problem seem to be in the Paris section. After the sentence: Perrault reports it was later summer rather than early autumn<ref name="Tyas">. When I add a slash to reference, the text becomes visible. When I remove the slash, the text disappears. Its weird. scope_creepTalk 23:41, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, scope creep. It's expected. A <ref> tag must either be paired with a closing </ref> tag, or must itself end with />. When you take out that slash, it is neither, so the parser absorbs everything up to the next terminating ref tag. --ColinFine (talk) 23:56, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
@ColinFine: Oh right. I never seen that behaviour so far. Its converted it to a reference. Probably its the first time I seen it happen. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 08:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Please stop harassing me[edit]

Please stop the trolling.

I give $5 every month to Wikipedia yet I am continually hounded and trolled ... I should not have to "login" to show that I give regularly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6400:451F:AD00:FD2D:3C96:0:71E (talk) 23:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello. In order to remain neutral, there is absolutely nothing anywhere in Wikipedia that knows who has contributed to the Wikimedia Foundation, so there is no way on earth for Wikipedia to know whether this particular user has contributed or not. Even for logged in users, it still has no way of knowing whether they have contributed or not: it just knows if they have told it not to display the banner. For users who have not logged in it knows absolutely nothing about who is connected to that particular IP address at that moment: half an hour ago, that person could have been editing from a different IP address, and a different person could have that address. Remembering your jpreferences is one of the big advantages of having an account, but it can't do it if you don't log in and tell it who you are. --ColinFine (talk) 00:03, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
With an account, you should only be asked to log in once per every 365 days. Not much to ask for, is it?--Quisqualis (talk) 19:41, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

December 2[edit]

Speedy Deletion[edit]

By mistake I wrote an article on my own user page. I deleted that article as soon as I figured out that it was actually on my profile page rather than on a separate page corresponding to its topic. I got confused as I was working on sandbox. Secondly, I finally created an article page correctly and sent it to get reviewed (max 3 months to get reviewed). I noticed a few sentences that I could display better so I changed 2 words from: BUT to but . I published the changes. Next thing that happened, I got the following notice: "This draft may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion because in its current form it serves only to promote or publicise an entity, person, product, or idea, and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic." I am not why this happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weditor42490 (talkcontribs) 00:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Weditor42490, You were writing blatant spam, complete with links to some fashion site hosted on appspot for references. Please respond to the notice on your talk page, I have given you another one. —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 00:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)


The Fuzzbot denied information about ¨Sexy Sadie¨ by The Beatles they said that the changes I made were wrong we indeed they were not — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Calling User:Fuzheado a bot is kinda insulting. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 02:33, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
You made changes to Sexy Sadie without a reference, so another editor reverted them. Your next move should be to discuss your changes with that editor on the article's talk page at Talk:Sexy Sadie to reach a consensus (see WP:BRD). It is certainly the case that one of the changes (i.e., type = Sexy) is incorrect. -Arch dude (talk) 05:05, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Who is Nathalie Emmanuel's father?[edit]

Please be advised of a factual error in your early life section of Nathalie Emmanuel. Her father was never (Joseph James) as it reads, Joseph James is in fact her Step Grandfather. I, JOHN MATTHEW EMMANUEL is her blood father estranged for no reasons by ex wife and 2 daughters. If this was not offensive enough to have been replaced in the media by a step Grandfather makes me so very angry! Get the facts right, do your checks and ammend before I really do go public and upsetting those on the inside that know the truth! Thanks! John Matthew Emmanuel [details removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:25, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Information in our Nathalie Emmanuel article comes from published sources. We have no mechanism to "get the facts". We just report on what has been published. Feel free to "go public. If reliable source writes a story about it, we can reference that source in the article. If you can point to an existing published source, then please do that on the article's talk page at Talk:Nathalie Emmanuel and we can change the article. -Arch dude (talk) 04:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I have removed your phone number to protect your privacy. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Tag filter search in user contributions not working[edit]

Every time I try to search for contributions on my page or another user's page, I try to use the "Tag filter" feature to narrow down my search within the amount of contributions that I/another user did over time. Every time I try to use this feature, it does not work and always displays the message "No changes were found matching these criteria" regardless of what I put in the Tag filter search bar. If any of you can provide me any help for this matter, please let me know. Thanks. Fdom5997 (talk) 05:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Fdom5997, just making sure, are you using the strings listed in the "Tag name" column of Special:Tags (e.g., mobile web edit, mw-undo)? Using the terms that appear in a page's history won't display what you want. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 08:12, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Why does the "Did you know section?" on the front page have so many bulletpoints about Serious Sam?[edit]

It's had at least three points related to this fairly obscure video game franchise in the last month. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:39, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

It would seem that an editor or editors spent time and effort improving that article and worked to get those points on DYK. It is not uncommon for a spat of DYK entries to be related to the same or a similar subject, as people work in particular topic areas. It's the nature of a volunteer project. If you want to see greater variety, you are free to work in DYK to do so. 331dot (talk) 12:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

video contradicts official source[edit]

Hello, do we at WP follow official sources even when there's video evidence showing those official sources are wrong? --Dutchy45 (talk) 12:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Dutchy45 It would help to know if you are referencing a specific situation, but in general, Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state, not necessarily what primary sources state(which is what I assume you mean by "official"). If different sources have different interpretations of the same event or person, those differing sources are given appropriate weight in the article, as determined by the community. 331dot (talk) 12:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
In this case it is a specific situation 331dot, but I can easily foresee this happening again. Hopefully you don't mind a link to a short convo I had with a more experienced editor on his talk page where everything is laid out: Item nr. 39 on User talk:SuperJew. I should add that on-line newspapers here report both versions of the fact. In 1 case 2 different journalists from the same! paper wrote different things. I'm surprised you didn't even mention video in your reply. Is there not even a passing thought as to what everybody can see with their own eyes? Dutchy45 (talk) 13:16, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Dutchy45 Video of a match is just a primary source(the match itself). If the sources are incorrect with their statistics or reporting, you will need to speak to those sources to get them to issue a correction or retraction. If there are other reliable sources that discuss an error in a penalty call or in statistic keeping, those could be offered, but not video of the game itself. It is not uncommon in sports for referees to get a call wrong despite video of the game at odds with that call. The same thing is happening here. 331dot (talk) 13:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Placing a warning about unencyclopedic style[edit]

How does one place the notice at the top of a page that warns the reader the page is not written in an encyclopedic style? Kubrickrules (talk) 15:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@Kubrickrules: you can add {{Tone|December 2020}} to the top of it, as it appears when viewing this page. Note that if you enable Twinkle, tagging articles gets much easier. Do you have any particular article in mind? Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@Victor Schmidt: Forgive me because I still don't know all the intricacies. I ran across this page for an English band ( ) It was clearly written by one of the band members as an opinion-based, personal account instead of as a neutral biography. In other instances like this, I have seen very large, bold warnings at the tops of the pages, and was thinking that this page is a candidate for one or more of those warnings. The page absolutely needs a heavy cleaning and re-write. I'm not sure I'm up for a re-write, but at bare minimum, I (or someone else) could at least place the bold warnings for now. Kubrickrules (talk) 17:59, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@Kubrickrules: there are more of these warnings, fititng all different scenarios. Wikipedia:Template index/Cleanup (click the blue text) covers all of them at length. I am not familar with that article and don't currently have enough time to do an at-length examination there, but I do notice that the article already has a few tags (One at the very top and a few others at the start of some sections). Maybe a different responee here can assist you better. (Note: Please indent your posts with one more : than the person before you. See WP:INDENT) Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@Victor Schmidt: On second glance, I do see a large citation warning already there, but I will look for the other one appropriate for the writing style at the link you provided. Thank you.


I am in my mid 70's. I am on limited social security. I have no money to contribute, I barely have money to eat. I appreciate your website very much and will miss being able to continue my knowledge search, but will no longer access your sight because I must contribute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, you do not have to contribute to use the site; donations are purely voluntary. Unfortunately, if you edit from an IP addrees (I.e. without creating an account) the software cannot tell whether you have donated or not (or even if you are the same person who last used that address) and any banners you see asking for financial help will continue to display. Please continue to use Wikipedia for your research and thank you for doing so – it's why we volunteer here. If you feel like editing at any time, please try the WP:TUTORIAL for help in getting started. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 16:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello! WP is funded by donations, so it never stops asking for money. However, you are very welcome to read or edit it without donating. And while it's prudent for an org like WP to worry about the future, currently it's doing ok. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:29, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
The message to take away here is if you do not want to see the banner asking to donate, please create an account. I haven't had to disable the banner in a very long time, but I think it can be done by going to your account's preferences, navigating to the "Gadgets" tab, and checking the "Suppress display of fundraiser banners" item. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:53, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Dialogue with the editor on requesting an insertion into a semi-protected page[edit]

At 06:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC), I posted a requested insertion for the semi-protected article . My request is #30 on the Talk page for the article. Thus, it is at's_misleading_filing_of_McCabe_evidence . I believe that I used the appropriate template for such a request.

At 19:16, 28 November 2020 (UTC), my request was rejected by @Seagull123.

At 23:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC), I addressed Seagull123's objections in a response on the Talk page.

It is now December 2, 2020 at 6:02:24 pm (UTC), so (if I do the arithmetic right) it has been about 3.5 days. Perhaps I am just being impatient, but I also fear that I may have done something wrong such that I will not get Seagull123's attention unless I correct what I did.

I did two things:

(1) I changed the field in the template in a fashion that I thought would bring renewed attention.

(2) I attempted to direct Seagull123's attention to my update by writing @Seagull123 in what I thought was an appropriate manner.

Because I am a novice at both of these techniques, what I am now asking is for you to take a look, and see if you can spot whether I did something wrong, and if so what it was. I am deliberately choosing to not describe exactly what did, thinking it will be best if you were to infer it from the edit history.

(3) I also tried to understand how I might directly message Seagull123 (apart from what I did in (2) above), but was not able to figure out how to do this from the documentation.

Thank you for your help.

GreenEyewash (talk) 18:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@GreenEyewash: You can use {{re|Seagull123}} to let that user know you replied to their comments. If they do not respond, they are probably busy working on other things, or perhaps not interested in pursuing this edit request currently. Note that there is a huge backlog at CAT:ESP. If the editor that originally questioned your request doesn't handle it, just be patient and another volunteer will eventually get to it. RudolfRed (talk) 18:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Contested 2020 Elections[edit]

Given that massive Election Fraud is being discovered and investigations beginning in many of the 2020 Elections, can you please remove any and all references to Joe Biden as "President-elect"? Under the circumstances that reference is grossly inflammatory, and practically hate speech. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walter.e.steele (talkcontribs) 18:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP editorWalter.e.steele. Please read WP:VNT, which explains that Wikipedia is based on what reliable, published, independent sources say about a topic, not "The Truth". Your sources may not qualify as reliable sources.--Quisqualis (talk) 19:03, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Not to mention there have been 0 actual findings of fraud that would remotely change the outcome. Praxidicae (talk) 19:05, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@Walter.e.steele: Care to mulligan on the topic area you want to get involved in? Coming into a topic area and spouting debunked conspiracy theories no credible source is taking seriously is a very good way to see yourself facing sanctions. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 21:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Given that our duly elected President is speaking right this minute about the Election Fraud, those here who want to contest my comment appear to be Fascist thugs. Sanction that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walter.e.steele (talkcontribs) 21:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I find it funny when the far-right screams about their ultimate style of government as if it were leftist.A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 23:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

How to make my page accessible[edit]

Hello please how do I make my page accessible on google because I just finished up with creating my first page but can't find it's on google when I shearch the name of my site — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burryconnect (talkcontribs) 19:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Burryconnect, I see several problems. First, your user page, User:Burryconnect, is not the place for an article. You must immediately move that material to Draft:Burryconnect. Then, please read and take to heart all of WP:Your first article. Sourcing is vital. Finally, you must get a new user name, as it is a company name. See: Wikipedia:Username policy.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:08, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I Contributed An Update To WHYN-FM But Now The Infobox Won't Display Properly/I've Been Unable To Fix It[edit]

After adding information for the brand new WHYN-HD2/W247DL ("97.3 The Beat") to the WHYN-FM article, I've noticed that the Infobox now doesn't display properly! I must have made at least a dozen attempts to repair the error but it just continues to not display. Can somebody please repair the error ASAP? I don't know how to fix it. I've already tried at least 10 times but to no avail.DizzyMosquitoRadio99 (talk) 21:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Fixed, there were some curly brackets that didn't have matching closing brackets. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Reference image published by CDC via tableau?[edit]

In a Wikipedia article, I would like to embed the graph at

Such images are public domain with appropriate citations (see

Is there an existing Wikipedia article which embeds an image from CDC tableau which I can use as an example? If not, can you please provide an example of the Wikipedia edit source appropriate to embed the image at the URL above along with the appropriate citation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OneSkyWalker (talkcontribs) 22:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@OneSkyWalker: the first link says "© 2020 Tableau Software, LLC, a Salesforce Company. All Rights Reserved". I don't see anything on the CDC page that contradicts that. Can you explain how the two are related? RudolfRed (talk) 22:29, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
And the direct answer to your question, OneSkyWalker, separate from the copyright issue, is that it is not possible to embed anything from an external source in a Wikipedia article. All images must first be uploaded either to Wikimedia Commons or to Wikipedia. But getting the copyright right is the first step always. --ColinFine (talk) 22:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
That CDC link says its content is "public domain, unless otherwise stated", but the content in question has an "otherwise stated" copyright that means it is not compatible with Wikipedia's licencing. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@OneSkyWalker: Your best move is to find the data at, and then create an equivalent graph using gnuplot or any program you are happy with. Your graph will be your own work. If you wish to tackle this, I can help after you find the data. This has big advantages, as we can document the method and source, and then update as the CDC adds more data. We will not use any "creative elements" from the graph, so we will have no need to reference it at all. -Arch dude (talk) 00:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

December 3[edit]

Want to use countries national flags[edit]

Hello I'm Vinay and I creating an educational android app and I want to use all the countries flags in my app so I just want to know the images are copyrighted or not? can I use images without any problem? and I'm going to monetize that app with admob

None of the national flags at e.g. Gallery of sovereign state flags are copyrighted to my knowledge. This means you can use them however you please and do not need to observe any terms. You can see the exact license by clicking on each image. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 04:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

What are the Ways to Get Admin access for my wiki page[edit]

Our Official wikipedia page created by unknown person. I just want to get the edit and admin access for our official page. Whats the procedure to get admin acesss for wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

There's a lot wrong with this statement...
A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 06:21, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


Why do I keep being pestered for a donation when I have already contributed (twice)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC)