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May 2[edit]

Trouble adding an infobox image[edit]

I followed the directions on adding in images in infoboxes, but I'm still receiving an error. Can you please identify my problem? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightyearling (talkcontribs) 07:56, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@Lightyearling, you tried to use an image from an external site, that is not possible, all images used on Wikipedia must first be uploaded to either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. However it's not a simple process as we are very strict about respecting copyrights. As the article is about a living person only completely free images may be used. Any image found on an arbitrary website is extremely unlikely to be free of copyright restrictions so it cannot be used. For living people the photo must be explicitly released by the owner (usually the photographer). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
@Lightyearling, if you are part of the activists' group and can take an in person picture then you can upload those as fair use images. Also, if you are part of their organization you can also get them to file a ticket through WP:ORTS if they have images that they own the copyrights to. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:10, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@Roger (Dodger67)Thank you. I appreciate you sharing that information. @Tokyogirl79 Thanks for all your help with revising their pages! I am not part of the group but it's good to know the process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightyearling (talkcontribs) 20:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Converting Google Books citations[edit]

Is there a tool that can convert hideously long Google Books bare url cites to properly formatted and complete {{cite book}} references? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:22, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@Dodger67: The third entry at Help:Citation tools#Tools does this job. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:00, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
@John of Reading: Thanks! (and self-trout for not looking for the obvious help page before bothering anyone here.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
@Dodger67: Even if you don't use any tool, it might be useful to know the part to copy – up to the page number in the form pg=PA## (or in the case of none, up to the ID identifier). So here's a URL with the part you want to copy highlighted:
By the way I use that tool constantly and it has some pitfalls the most glaring of which is that it will output for the page something similar to "186-" by assuming that you may want the cite to be to the page of the book and maybe some pages thereafter, so remove the hyphen or add the end page of the range you want to cite (then make any other changes you want), and then click "make citation" to modify its original output.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:15, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Fuhghettaboutit, I discoverd that "feature" a few hours ago. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:45, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Anytime!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Homo Technologicus[edit]

FYI, Gingras, Yves (2005), Éloge de l'homo techno-logicus. Saint-Laurent, Québec: Les Editions Fides, ISBN 2-7621-2630-4 is not the first who wrote on the topic. Since the early nineties John Thanopoulos, specializing in international business and business ethics, refers to homo technologicus in his lectures and in his 2003 Greek textbook on Business Ethics and Deontology, page 28, writes about the concept. The book, now in its third edition and soon to appear in English, was published in Athens, Greece by Interbooks and bears ISBN #960-390-120-2. How can I be of assistance? John Thanopoulos — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, you're saying that there's an error in this row of the table in this article Names_for_the_human_species#cite_note-Gingras_2005-23 where the reference cited is not the earliest use of the term? You can either be bold and change this yourself, or post your concern to the articles talk page (here) and discuss it with any interested editors. CaptRik (talk) 10:50, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
There is no explicit indication in the table that the references given are neccessarily the earliest use/originator of the name. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:57, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Hamblen Township, Brown County, Indiana[edit]

There are many unincorporated settlements in this twp. One being Sprunica which had at one time a store, Redmen's Lodge and other near-by entities. It now has an elementary school, a church, a one room church and cemetery dating back to 1870.

There are many cemeteries in Hamblen Twp. not listed in your article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:29, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

If you have good sources you are welcome to add the missing information. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Template for wikilinking non-English WP pages[edit]

I know there is a template that creates a wikilink to a page on another language WP, that works only as long as there is no English version of the page, then it automagically links to the new English article when it is created. I can't find it! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:42, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Template:ill (or its successor Template:Interlanguage link multi, it's apparently getting merged) - just learned about it a few months ago as well :). GermanJoe (talk) 16:22, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Guidelines for urban legends[edit]

Are there any guidelines for if an urban legend is credible enough for its own article? And would there be any guidelines against it if it lacks English sources? --Steverci (talk) 16:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

The general criteria is WP:GNG, which means you have to show significant independent reliable sources about the subject. I don't know of a specific guideline for urban legends. Sources not in a language other than English are fine. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:20, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia doesnt care whether or not the "legend" is true or whether people believe it. We care that the legend has been covered in a significant manner by reliable sources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:59, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Template: 2000 Guineas winners[edit]

Can someone please help me to get this template sorted out. I have tried updating it, reverting previous changes, renaming it, un-renaming it, but I can't get it to show properly on article page such as 2000 Guineas. Tigerboy1966  16:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

@Tigerboy1966: The text you need is {{2000 Guineas winners}}- I've added it to the bottom of the 2000 Guineas article. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:32, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks very much, I was getting myself into a right old tizzy about that. Tigerboy1966  16:59, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Wondering !![edit]

i am a new editor and i've got my very first article Speedy deletion and so i don't wanna my second article to end up like that so i've been wondering if there is a way that some one can check it out before me posting it .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromo and proud (talkcontribs) 17:00, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Oromo and proud. I strongly advise you to use the WP:article wizard. This will create your draft article in draft space, where you can work on it for a while, and will give you a button to click when you are ready to submit it for review. --ColinFine (talk) 20:15, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

chief muruatetu[edit]

I would like to know why article on chief muruatetu has been withdrawn from your data or who could have requested it's withdraw. Being related to him am planning to make another story about him. Though am concerned if this will also be removed197.237.145.77 (talk) 17:01, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

If people do not meet the requirements for having an article there are several processes that may apply based on certain criteria
However, "the subject would rather have their personally approved version" is not an acceptable criteria for any Wikipedia editing at all. see WP:COI / WP:NOTADVERT / WP:NPOV. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello, It is worth remembering that, especially for an article about a living person, every single assertion in the article should be directly derived from a reliable published source; and apart from uncontroversial factual data like dates and names, should be from a source unconnected with the subject. To write an article on the chief, you need to find a number of published sources (articles or books) about him, written by people with no connection to him, and base the article entirely on what they say. If you know something about him that hasn't been published: don't put it in. If you have an evaluation, judgment, opinion or conclusion about him: if somebody unconnected with him has published exactly that evaluation, judgment, opinion or conclusion, then it may go in the article, cited to the published source; but otherwise, don't put it in. If there aren't any such sources, then we cannot accept an article on him. --ColinFine (talk) 20:20, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Do you mean Senior Chief Joseph Muruatetu? He seems like he would be notable, but I've found it difficult to find reliable sources about him. Can someone help? JoeSperrazza (talk) 12:34, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Add a book to a source page[edit]

Last year I self published an environmental book on Amazon titled "Fisheating Creek - Preserving A Special Place In Florida's Fial Frontier". Can I add this to the source page for the Wiki section for "Fisheating Creek". Thanks.

Bruce Ford17:03, 2 May 2015 (UTC) (talk)

We generally only use content that has gone through an editorial oversight process rather than self published materials.. So, no you shouldnt be using Wikipedia to promote your publication.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:44, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Refs on a talk page[edit]

I am trying to refer twice to the same reference in different parts of Talk:Highland Clearances (the section on Sellar). I can't get the second reference to
Richards, Eric (2013). The Highland Clearances. Edinburgh: Birlinn Limited. ISBN 978 1 78027 165 1.
to come up. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I know I've got this to work before, but I can't remember how. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 17:13, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Fixed Refnames that contain spaces must be enclosed in quotes. I also changed your {{reflist}} to a {{reflist-talk}}. ―Mandruss  17:22, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

How to erase "The Named reference was invoked but never Defined"?[edit]

I did not mean to click the Named References and now there is the error on my page that reads: "The named referenced was invoked but never defined" How do I get rid of this? Here is the URL:— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannaguido (talkcontribs)

Somewhere in the article you have an incomplete reference. Looking through, I see that there's a bit of code that says "<ref name=undefined />" right at the top of the page, first thing. You need to take that bit out. Ian.thomson (talk) 17:29, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Valid signatures[edit]

Would shortening my signature to "BioMe" be acceptable if I use a font where the "I" doesn't look too much like an "L"? BiologicalMe (talk) 18:46, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

A display name different from your username is discouraged, since it requires a little extra work for users who want to ping you or otherwise need to know your username. Many less experienced users don't know that that might not be your username. But it's not expressly forbidden (not much is), and a number of users do it. No particular opinion as to the BloMe ambiguity. ―Mandruss  18:53, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
@BiologicalMe: Putting something that will probably be seen (even accidentally) by some as a rude remark is not a good idea. The rules for such things are at Wikipedia:Username policy and Wikipedia:Signatures. I don't see what you are suggesting mentioned explicitly, but it could be seen as offensive.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  20:48, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
The tragedy of a nice idea being trumped by reality. Thanks.BiologicalMe (talk) 21:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Umpire Decision Review System[edit]

Reference help requested. I am trying to give citation from the rules of the game published by the authority. It is a PDF file. How do I cite reference? Thanks, Cartes (talk) 20:05, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Cartes. Where is it published? If it is on a website, you can use {{Cite web}}. If it is published in a (paper) journal, the PDF copy is irrelevant and you could use {{cite journal}} (though if the PDF is available on the web, you could provide its URL in the 'url' field). If it a PDF that has been sent to you, it probably hasn't been published and cannot be used as a reference. (I've suggested citation templates - these are not compulsory, but are how I prefer to format references). --ColinFine (talk) 20:25, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
The problem at Umpire Decision Review System has already been fixed by another editor. All that was needed to add "url=" before the URL.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  20:40, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

May 3[edit]

How to get deleted images to be returned, or not deleted in the first place.[edit]

I have had several images deleted - even after I provided either more rational or requested assistance from those recommending deletion. One of my main concerns is why are images that I have stated have no known originator and/or were pre-1923 being deleted? I may not be knowledgeable on exact coding to make sure this is completely understood - but I am totally at a loss on why I never get a reply from those who are making deletion recommendations. It's like they are throwing a grenade in a room and walking away - never offering any assistance, and then the images are automatically deleted. At least when I do attempt to offer more information about the images I should get a reply stating that the copyright code is still wrong and provide some guidance for a work around. I don't know how to make the case to get the images out of that dark hole - especially if they were deleted after I provided more information. I am shooting in the dark here. HELP. I then thought if I reloaded them with more clear justification - again especially for pre-1923 images with no known originator/owner and no copyright, or an image I know has been in the public domain for decades - they would not be deleted again. But it is like fighting city hall - as it appears the rationale for deletion is irreversible, no matter what additional information about the image is provided. I simply can't unlock the key to getting images un-deleted because I don't fully comprehend the exact coding required - and those "editors" who are recommending deletion certainly seem to only want to hit the delete button and move on - letting the automatic "robot" process delete without my day in court to even try and stop the images from being deleted. SandHills (talk) 00:15, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Are you uploading the images to Wikipedia or to Commons? Have you read the policies WP:Images and WP:Uploading images? Have you discussed the images with the nominating editor and the deleting administrator? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
The only deleted contributions here, are for an image uploaded twice in 2007, see File:Dopeys.JPG. Assuming this isn't about an 8 year old deletion, it must be a problem with commons:. Monty845 01:18, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

How can a new user's edits to an article be "Automatically accepted"?[edit]

I have a question – a new editor, Bjcressy (talk · contribs) (who has only been registered for about 24 hours), has been making a series of unsourced additions to some BLP articles on UK soap opera actors. But that's not why I am here. Why I'm here is that I recently noticed that this new editor's edits were being "Automatically accepted" at the article Charley Webb, despite the fact that this editor only has 25 edits, and does not have "Pending changes reviewer" status (obviously!). So I am wondering what's going on here – is this some kind of weird technical error that is allowing this editor's edits to be "Automatically accepted"? Or is there something else going on here?... Thanks in advance! --IJBall (talk) 02:44, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Odd – and now, several minutes later, the "Automatically accepted" tags next to this editor's edits have disappeared.. Must be some kind of 'bug'. --IJBall (talk) 02:48, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
The Auto accepted disappearing was me un-accepting all 3 of his edits in the hope his next edits would go back to the normal pending stage, Not sure if that'd work but meh worth a go I guess, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 02:52, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

How to fix a red link[edit]

I edited the article Home Rule Municipality (Pennsylvania) to fix what seemed like wrong caps (upper case letters), and this created a red link for List of Pennsylvania municipalities and counties with home rule charters, optional charters, or optional plans, which was a blue link before with lots of capitalized words. How do I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timmeredgar (talkcontribs) 03:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Your fix was correct per the Wikipedia manual of style, but to complete the fix you need to move the target article to the correct new title. --Jayron32 04:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
How do I move an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timmeredgar (talkcontribs) 04:14, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Go to the article you want to move. In the upper right corner is a little menu item that says "More" with a little downward pointing triangle. Click the triangle and select "move". Enter the new, correctly capitalized title. See also Help:Move for more details. --Jayron32 04:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I cannot find a little thing that says "More". Timmeredgar (talk) 05:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
@Timmeredgar: I'm afraid it's not there for you yet. Since your account is so new, you do not have autoconfirmed status and are not yet allowed to move pages. You will be in three days. In the mean time, I moved it so it works now.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  05:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Timmeredgar (talk) 05:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
There is also Wikipedia:Piped link which shows how to have a link that shows one text but links to another (including having a link that has different capitalization.) RJFJR (talk) 20:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Roger Ebert[edit]

Reference help requested. Reference to web page with article by Fristoe, the URL includes a pipe in it, and that makes an error in published page. My one idea was to make tinyurl, but those are disallowed on Wikipedia. I could not find a source for the sentence (and some prior editor marked that citation was needed) other than the one I put in. I put an entry on the talk page for Roger Ebert, and ask again here, how does one get around the problem and still use the reference? Thanks, --Prairieplant (talk) 05:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

@Prairieplant: The "Help" for the error linked to Help:CS1 errors#Text "????" ignored, where it suggests to use the percent-encoding of "%7c" to replace the pipe ("|"). I tried that and it seems to have worked.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  06:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Now I know how to handle this, should it ever happen again. And the article has just one citation needed as of this moment, big progress. --Prairieplant (talk) 13:09, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


I insert css code -webkit-linear-gradient(to right, #3296D8, #E41DE3); at ko:틀:언프리티 랩스타 (template:Unpretty Rapstar) [1] ,but it`s not worked. I want to apply css gradient.--Altostratus (talk) 06:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

For technical questions like this, WP:VPT is the best place to ask. Having said that, this is the English Wikipedia, and ko: is a completely separate project. I also don't think it is a good idea to put browser-specific CSS into templates, because however you are making it appear, people using other browsers won't see. --ColinFine (talk) 09:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
We have {{linear-gradient}} for use on the English Wikipedia. -- Gadget850 talk 18:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Use of information[edit]

Are there limitations for extracting information from publications? (books/magazines) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruchith Singhabahu (talkcontribs) 07:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello Ruchith Singhabahu. I'm not sure quite what you mean. If you are talking about quoting text from a publication: you may do so, as long as it is properly attributed, and not too long. See WP:Quotations. If you mean referencing publications, you can certainly do that - see referencing for beginners. --ColinFine (talk) 09:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot ColinFine (Ruchith Singhabahu (talk) 14:57, 3 May 2015 (UTC))

WMF elections[edit]

I went to Meta to vote and I was redirected to Wikimedia Vote Wiki. I am told, however, that I do not have an account in that. What is the problem? I thought that my account was global.--The Theosophist (talk) 10:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

What does the merge accounts page on Meta say when you visit it? - X201 (talk) 10:24, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
It says that everything is fine. Anyway, it looks like my vote was indeed recorded, even though the site looks like I am logged out. Thank you.--The Theosophist (talk) 10:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
You've got a Meta account, Not sure what was causing the problem though. - X201 (talk) 10:29, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Can't Login[edit]

I've logged into Wikipedia many times before, but suddenly my password no longer works. I've been very careful with case sensitivity, etc. I don't understand why I can't contribute anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

What is your username? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


Nikkimaria keeps changing the page De Club van Sinterklaas for reasons i don't know. Am i missing something or is he/she vandalising the page? --FroggieFrog12 (talk) 14:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Since you know who has been reverting your changes, you must know how to use the page history. Since you have written a few edit summaries for your own edits, you obviously are familiar with the concept of edit summaries. Have you read the other editor's edit summaries for their reverts? Doing that often goes a long way toward answering the question, "Why?". If it does not, the correct action is to contact the editor on their talk page for clarification and discussion, and/or open a thread on the article talk page. Repeated re-reverting is edit warring, which can result in sanctions, and there is no need to come to the Help desk with such a question.
In this case, both of the other editor's edit summaries were rm non-RS. "rm" is a standard abbreviation for "remove". "RS" means "reliable sources". Therefore the editor is saying that the content you are adding is not referenced or the references are not reliable sources. No, they are not vandalizing the page. ―Mandruss  14:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
The contributions have references and still Nikkimaria keeps changing them. --FroggieFrog12 (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Then the other editor is saying that the references are not reliable sources (as I said). Discuss on their talk page or article talk, not here. If it comes to that and you feel strongly about it, you can pursue dispute resolution, but Help desk is not a part of that process. ―Mandruss  14:37, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
To be specific, Froggie, one of the references you used that was removed in the revert by Nikkimaria was to a Wikia page, which is written by random people using the Internet. It is user-generated content, as opposed to a source with editorial oversight and a reputation for fact checking and accuracy, such as books published by major publishing houses, newspapers, magazines, peer-reviewed scholarly journals and the like. The second is also to a wiki, the Dutch Wikipedia's article on the club, which is WP:CIRCULAR sourcing and also another user-generated source. Additionally, the link you used was not actually to the Dutch article, but a site that appears to be a blatant copyright violation of the Dutch Wikipedia article (though I am not intimating you knew this), which would be a type of link we forbid from use (see WP:ELNEVER). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Offensive userpage box content[edit]

I was wondering if there were any rules against the "This user likes/is/believes/etc" user page boxes containing offensive content, whether it comes from a created template or a customized one. I recall awhile ago that someone on the enforcement board was given some kind of punishment for putting a swastika on their user page, but I'm not sure if it goes beyond Godwin's law.

For a specific situation, if someone wrote This user rejects the so-called Armenian claims and believes that it's a big lie concocted by Armenian diaspora ! on a user box for their page, would they be forced to remove it and/or be given a sanction? --Steverci (talk) 16:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:User pages is the guideline for user and user talk pages. The section What may I not have in my user pages? includes the concept of WP:POLEMIC, stating that “very divisive or offensive material not related to encyclopedia editing” should be avoided.
You’ll note the wording indicates that the concept of what’s unacceptable is subject to interpretation. I think you have some choices:
  1. You could stop reading the user page in question - unwatch it, etc.
  2. You could leave a polite note indicating why you think this is distracting from the building of an encyclopedia, or add the tag {{subst:uw-userpage}} to that user’s user talk page.
  3. You could post a complaint at WP:ANI - if you do, please be sure to post {{subst:ANI-notice}} to that user’s user talk page, and be prepared to have your conduct with respect to that editor also examined (that’s how things work at ANI).;
Good luck! JoeSperrazza (talk) 16:48, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Specific to userboxes, Wikipedia:Userboxes#Content restrictions is the applicable guideline. ―Mandruss  16:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
User:JoeSperrazza Thanks. But would I be able to report this to enforcement and get the user sanctioned? If someone called the Holocaust a big lie made up by the Jews on their user page, I doubt they'd just simply be asked to remove it. --Steverci (talk) 00:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Blocks are preventative, not punitive. If the consensus was to remove it and the user refused or edit warred about it, then a block might follow, or other actions. Try reporting it and see. JoeSperrazza (talk) 00:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Mentioned in Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive148#Maurice07, where he received a topic ban (on greco-turkish relations), but I'm not sure if the topic ban covered that.Naraht (talk) 15:57, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The Mozilla Firefox Timeline template is about to run out of space soon[edit]

I've been thinking. In nine days, Firefox 38 will arrive, and so will the new version of Firefox 31esr, but there's one problem: the height in the Mozilla Firefox Timeline template seems to be limited, and if the ESR version number goes down any further than Firefox 31.6.0esr, pretty soon the space will run out, and the template won't work. What should we do to remedy this? --Angeldeb82 (talk) 18:10, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Template talk:Timeline Mozilla Firefox is a better place to discuss your question. I see you're already familiar with that page. ―Mandruss  18:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The UK Government's Knowledge Network Programme[edit]

Should The UK Government's Knowledge Network Programme be nominated for deletion? It is not notable. It was nominated for deletion in the past when it was current. Now it is very out of date and most of the references are dead links. Yann-an-Od (talk) 20:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Neither of your arguments seems very strong: if a subject is notable, it doesn't stop being notable just because it no longer exists, or the article needs updating. And in general, references do not have to be online, so the link being dead does not necessarily destroy the reference. Looking at that article, I see it has several issues at the top anyway, so it may be that a renomination would succeed. --ColinFine (talk) 21:55, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
We have lots of articles about things that no longer exist. That's what encyclopedias are for, to document knowledge about stuff for history. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:16, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Giovanni Battista Piranesi etchings - italics?[edit]

Would I be correct to italicise the names of the etchings listed in Giovanni Battista Piranesi#The Prisons (Carceri)? Or are they for whatever reason classed as minor works as opposed to major works? (talk) 21:36, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The appliable guideline appears to be Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Visual arts#Works of art. Since the article refers to these works as "untitled", I would lean toward no italics per that guideline. While there may be someone more knowledgeable in this area who reads this page, you should try the article's talk page first. It has very low activity, but it has 52 watchers and is worth a try. Another resource would be an applicable WikiProject; Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Arts and entertainment is the closest I can find. ―Mandruss  21:51, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

May 4[edit]

Distances as time[edit]

Every so often, I come across an article which denotes the distance one place is from another in terms of driving time, rather than in miles or kilometers. (An example: "Keystone College is located 25 minutes from Scranton, and two hours and twenty minutes from New York City and Philadelphia".) To me, this seems awkward and inaccurate. Driving time can vary with any number of conditions, while distance is constant. When I see these in articles, should I change them?    → Michael J    01:42, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Very definitely; and thanks for caring. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Orange Mike. I have corrected it on that article, and I will do so on others that I find.    → Michael J    14:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no key[edit]

Done (i think) in 1111 Lincoln Road - the ref tag had no ending ">" character. Help:Referencing for beginners has some good basic information, if you are new in Wikipedia referencing. Regards. GermanJoe (talk) 01:51, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

phrase search tool[edit]

Is there a tool somewhere that would allow me to find all articles that contain a specific phrase or word? For instance, if I wanted to find all instances of the word "irregardless" in order to replace them with "regardless" or find all instances of a certain idiom so that I could rewrite it to exclude that idiom. Is there a tool out there that can do that?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sesamehoneytart (talkcontribs)

Frankly, when doing something like that I use an external search engine restricted to page results at --Orange Mike | Talk 02:52, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Sesamehoneytart: The "Search" box in the top right will find all uses of the word irregardless and by putting a phrase in double quote marks you can get all uses of a "specific phrase" using those words in that order. If you are looking to automate the change you suggest, there's AutoWikiBrowser. It requires registration before use because it has the potential to cause a lot of havoc. Using that you could quickly go through the whole encyclopedia changing irregardless to regardless, but you can't do that because sometimes the former is the intended word. Does that answer your question?  SchreiberBike | ⌨  03:38, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I was hoping there was something out there in the tools lab, but I think the double quotes could work for my purpose, which is to find uses of certain idioms and replace them with a more proper description. For instance, a search for "tip of the iceberg" brings up legitimate uses for the phrase, such as an explanation of the origin of the phrase in the Iceberg article and certain musical albums given that name, but it also brings up articles where the phrase is used as an idiom, such as Culture of Sarajevo article that states that certain pop rock bands are "arguably the greatest Yugoslav rock bands of all time but are only the tip of the iceberg."Sesamehoneytart 16:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Fixing clusters of problems[edit]

I took out some unneeded spaces at Zemitāni–Skulte Railway and a template that it uses (by similar name but with spaces around the dash). Then I noticed that in its category there are 6 or so other Railway articles that have unneeded spaces around dashes in their titles. Is there some good way to do a consistent bulk operation to fix all of these at once, including the templates and links connected to them? Also, I don't see why "Railway" is capitalized on these. These do not appear to be proper nouns (at least, I can't find them anywhere on the web other than wikipedia and its copies). How should I proceed to make these more consistent with how Wikipedia usually does things? Timmeredgar (talk) 02:59, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

@Timmeredgar: Wikipedia has its own rules for writing style, but if you are confident that you understand our Manual of Style in general and MOS:DASH in particular, be bold and make corrections. You may be interested in copy editing and that's great because there are a lot (understatement) of writing errors in Wikipedia. There are tools like AutoWikiBrowser which assist with making changes in bulk, but their use is restricted to experienced editors.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  03:50, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I am not that confident yet, but so far what I am doing seems to be meeting with approval, or at least acceptance. Are there editors who know how to use AWB who would be interested in hearing about problem clusters to work on? Timmeredgar (talk) 04:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Timmeredgar: If there are many of them, then it might be worth figuring out how to do it with automation, but if there are fewer, it might be easier to do manually. I don't know how hard it would be to automate, but if you can define the problem pretty well, the place to ask would be Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks. Keep up the good work.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  04:34, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Timmeredgar: it can be useful to raise questions at the talk page of the relevant WikiProjects, in this case WT:TWP. Mjroots (talk) 20:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Snake River (Massachusetts)[edit]

This is a report of sophomoric vandalism event: Names of people (perhaps real) in off-topic &/or fabricated activities (eg: shitting in river causes fish die-off) have been added to this page: Snake River (Massachusetts) Tickerhead (talk) 03:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

18 April edit reverted. Thank you. You can do this yourself, btw. ―Mandruss  03:16, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Misuse of Wikipedia as a web host[edit]

my name is vincy stephen.i got a message showing that

"This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

  • 14:29, 2 May 2015 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Vincy stephen (U5: Blatant misuse of Wikipedia as a web host)"

what should i do to upload my content — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincy stephen (talkcontribs)

See your own talk page for an explanation. Maproom (talk) 06:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
A better explanation is that U5 is typically cited when a user uses their user page to create an autobiography. Please see Wikipedia:User pages for acceptable use of user pages.
I see that you have now created a sandbox draft at User:Vincy stephen/sandbox. Please see Wikipedia:Your first article for guidelines on creating articles. Although writing about yourself is not absolutely forbidden, it is a frustrating experience. —teb728 t c 08:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Why isn't Media Viewer working?[edit]

I've tried to use Media viewer on some images in different pages, but all it shows is a black screen and I have to reload the page. Can you please help? IllogicMink (talk) 07:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

It's OK, it's fine now. IllogicMink (talk) 07:56, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

How do I remove the word Sandbox after my site address?[edit]

Can anyone please suggest me How to remove the word Sandbox after the site address...? eg : xxxyyyzzz/sandbox - is displayed if I type xxxyyyzzz in google Thanks in Advance.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello, It's a bit hard to tell what's going on because you haven't given us the real name, so we can't look at it, so I'll have to answer in general terms. "Sandbox" is not "after the site address", it is part of the name of the page, and it is probably a user sandbox - a page that a user has created to develop an article in. So for example, I could have a user sandbox and it would be User:ColinFine/sandbox (I haven't got one, which is why that is in red). When a draft article in a sandbox is ready to go into the main encyclopaedia, the page needs to be moved; or, better, submitted for review. If that's your situation, please come back here and ask for more help with the specific page identified.
However, your question seems to imply that you are expecting the bit before the /sandbox - what you've referred to as xxxyyyzzz - to be the target name for the article. It isn't. It is (almost certainly) the name of the Wikipedia account that created the sandbox. If it is a draft article about the writer, please read autobiography for why it is very strongly discouraged to write about yourself. --ColinFine (talk) 11:01, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Repeated links to a given page[edit]

If for example an author is mentioned several times in different paragraphs, how many time can we link to the author's page, once per page, once per paragraph ? Is there policy about it ?--lxndr (talk) 10:17, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Generally it's once per article (see WP:OVERLINK). However, there may be a link in the infobox and a link in the article, and if it is a long article, more than one link might be warranted. As a rule of thumb, never two links to the same page in a paragraph, or in paragraphs that are close together. Johnuniq (talk) 10:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


Why did I have to go through a captcha in order for to work? (talk) 13:03, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Probably because a GND identifier in a Wikidata edit [2] had not propagated to the Authority control template at the bottom of the article where it causes an external link. The whole article is rerendered when it's edited and the software compares all external links after the edit to the last time the article was rendered. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:42, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
To put it another way: It wasn't anything you did in that edit. It was just a weird side effect of the complexity of Wikipedia. Yaris678 (talk) 17:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Mechanical work[edit]

Hello! When filling images of stamps on the Commons there is a need for a set of cross references. Perhaps, they can be divided into 3 groups: 1) galleries of versions; 2) templates of series; 3) archives and miniatures. It is purely mechanical work. With pleasure I will look after the volunteer, temporary or constant. --Matsievsky (talk) 13:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello @Matsievsky:, I am not entirely sure what you are suggesting. But if your idea is about stamp images hosted on Commons, you should post your suggestion, or requests for help, at Commons:Commons:Help desk. Commons and English Wikipedia (and all other Wiki projects as well) are separate projects with separate rules and forums. GermanJoe (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Archiving Talk:Data comparison[edit]

Does anyone know why the archiving at Talk:Data comparison isn't working? I think I must've configured it wrong, but I can't see the mistake. Yaris678 (talk) 17:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello @Yaris678:, it looks like an algo of 1,600d (days) is defined. That value should be a lot lower to get the archive going (something between 1 month or 2-3 months is common). GermanJoe (talk) 17:04, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Yaris678: Potentially the 1600d value in a parameter. Reduce it to within living memory, perhaps Fiddle Faddle 17:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion, guys. The talk page is infrequently used. Any idea what the maximum age I can specify is? Yaris678 (talk) 17:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
@Yaris678: Look at it differently. What is the age after which you want to archive the page? And remember that the bot runs when it runs. This is not instant gratification. Fiddle Faddle 17:16, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I think you can work out the answer to that question: it's 1600 days. I'm not expecting anything instant, but I'm pretty sure the bot is ignoring the page as it's done lots of other archiving since I set up archiving on this one. If no one knows the maximum age, I'm going to try 999 days. It could be a character limit. Yaris678 (talk) 17:27, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
In general there is a requirement/tacit agreement for a consensus to be reached on the archiving of article talk pages. Usually the process is applied to busy pages where there is a genuine need to declutter and archive old conversations. Looking this talk page it seems to me that there is no obvious rationale for archival. So, gosh, yes, I can see that you want 1600 days. I am not entirely stupid. It was easy to work out. I suppose you have done the arithmetic. But I do not see a reason to archive the talk page of that article. Fiddle Faddle 17:32, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Michael Deacon (Journalist)[edit]

I have received a message alleging interference with an entry about Michael Deacon (Journalist). This was not done by me, nor do I share my computer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:05, 4 May 2015‎

It seems you allowed access to your machine, in that case, or have a variable IP address. The contributions record from your IP address is likely to be correct. Fiddle Faddle 17:09, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
The unregistered editor almost certainly has a dynamic IP address; most IP addresses are dynamic. The edit was almost certainly made from that IP address. What many unregistered editors and some registered editors do not know is that most IP addresses are dynamic. (To be sure, many unregistered editors are certain that their IP addresses are static, but most of them are mistaken. In particular, IPv4 addresses are usually dynamic, because IPv4 addresses have been exhausted.) The edit in question to Michael Deacon (journalist) was made a month ago, and most ISPs reassign IP addresses after an interval of time. I have some advice for the Original Poster / IP. First, register an account. It has several advantages, and many of the reasons why unregistered editors choose not to register are based on misconceptions. Second, if, after being advised to register an account, you choose not to do so, but to edit from an IP address, understand that your IP address may change, and, for that reason, you may either get template messages for edits you did not make, or even be blocked due to vandalism from an IP address that has been reassigned to you. You state that you did not make the edit and do not share the computer. However, you are, possibly without your knowledge, sharing the IP address, because it doesn't belong to you or your computer, but to your ISP. If you have problems due to being an unregistered editor, they are due to being an unregistered editor, and can, in general, be avoided by registration. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:23, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


Hi, how can I get rid of the capthca? It is really annoying that I have to type it after every single edit I do... --Vince (talk) 19:29, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Make one more edit. You have made nine edits. You will be auto-confirmed after making ten edits. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:04, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
However, if a new registered user has to pass captcha, why can unregistered users avoid captcha? Is it only certain edits where this new user is having to do captcha? Robert McClenon (talk) 20:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm guessing Vince hasn't had to do CAPTCHA for all edits. For example, this edit has no external link in it and so won't attract CAPTCHA, unlike this edit.
I think newly registered and unregistered users are treated the same in that they both are asked to do CAPTCHA if their edit adds an external link.
Yaris678 (talk) 06:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Estas Tonne on Wiki[edit]

Dear Wikipedia Editing team, This is a representative of Estas Tonne (musician) writing. An article about Estas was set up in Wiki in Portuguese by one of his fans - (Title: "Estas Tonne").

Estas is not approving of the text and the picture used. Could you please suspend the article until we publish a proper one (with the content agreed with Estas Tonne himself) in English - then to be translated in Portuguese?

If not possible, could you at least change the picture used in the article since it is very outdated. New photo:

Lithuania, 2013. Photo by Gary Dagys

File:Estas Tonne photo for the article
Lithuania, 2013. Photo by Gary Dagys

Thank you very much, kind regards, Naya ETMusic— Preceding unsigned comment added by EstasTonne (talkcontribs)

We're not the Portuguese Wikipedia. We have no control over them. If we did, the article would probably be deleted for not having adequately supported with independent and professional journalistic or academic sources. We would also ask you to avoid editing the article due to your conflict of interest. Also, the photo would need to be donated by the copyright holder of the photo (which is probably Gary Dagys), or otherwise released for all kinds of public uses. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Also, if you are not Estas Tonne, your user name is a violation of the user name policy which prohibits the use of the name of a real person unless you are that person.--ukexpat (talk) 21:05, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

May 5[edit]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input[edit]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Your edit caused an error message to display because the <ref>...</ref> tags were misplaced. The help page Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input describes this error and how to fix it. There are no error messages currently being shown at the Heart transplantation article. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:25, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Asegúrese de que los datos de pasaporte español[edit]

Tengo una tarjeta de pasaporte español y la definición de la llamada E D Comprobé en el que no quiero caer bajo pena de ley y Sarvq mi pregunta con todas las tarjetas y los datos de pasaport — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

¿Tiene alguna pregunta sobre cómo utilizar la Wikipedia? Ian.thomson (talk) 00:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Changing our username[edit]

Hi. I just set up an account but our username does not have spaces. Our user name needs to be changed. How can I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sotheycan (talkcontribs) 01:56, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

With or without spaces, your username is unacceptable because it represents the non-profit organization So They Can. And your userpage promotes the organization, which is also unacceptable. If you as an individual wish to edit Wikipedia for some purpose other than promoting your organization, you can create a new account with a username the represents you as an individual. —teb728 t c 05:31, 5 May 2015 (UTC)