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October 21[edit]

Resizing image in infobox?[edit]

I was trying to add an image to the infobox for the Quba Mosque, but the image is unreasonably large and offsets the formatting of the page-- does anyone know how I can resize it to a normal size?


Eggventura (talk) 02:54, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Eggventura: I've edited the article and the image should be fixed now. When adding files to infoboxes, you don't need to use the wikicode [[File:]], as the template does that automatically, so you only need to type in the name of the file. Thanks for helping improve the article. Isabelle 🔔 02:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Isabelle: Thank you so much! I always love how despite its flaws Wikipedia brings together some of the most genuinely altruistic people there are. Definitely noted advice for the future.
Have a fantastic morning/evening/afternoon wherever you are,
Eggventura (talk) 03:08, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How do I unpatrol a page?[edit]

Hello. I've accidentally marked Draft:Let's Go Brandon! as patrolled while fumbling around with my scroll bar. It's not immediately clear to me how I can undo my marking of the draft as patrolled, since the page curation script does not pop up on drafts for me. Is there a way to undo this through a standard Wikipedia interface? — Mikehawk10 (talk) 03:32, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How do bots automatically add content to articles?[edit]

Hi! I often read articles about cities and towns around the world, and the vast majority of articles contain detailed, recent statistics about the place's demographics and climate. Here are a few examples of content I suspect is generated by bots:

My hunch is that this content is added to articles by bots, and not human beings. Is this true? What are these types of editor bots called? Is there a community that maintains them? I'd like to contribute but need a place to start.

Thank you for your help. Data Engineer (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:34, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

The "Demographics" section you link to was created by User:Rambot in 2002. Rambot last edited in 2006 and is no longer being maintained. The "Climate" table of Cape Town was added by a human in 2006 , and gradually reformatted to match the current format. So, there's no bot that I'm aware of maintaining these anymore, only various humans each doing their part. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:49, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Data Engineer: They are called bots like you say. See Wikipedia:Bots. Their username contains "bot". The page history shows who added what. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]


how to referncingJamshi jabeen (talk) 06:12, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Jamshi jabeen Please see referencing for beginners. 331dot (talk) 07:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Harvey Feigenbaum[edit]

I submitted an article on Harvey Feigenbaum a couple of months ago. Has it been received? Is it being considered for publication?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregorywall (talkcontribs) 17:30, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

No you didn't. You dumped a big load of information about this guy on some other editor's talk page (User talk:Gregorywall) a while back. That's not the same as creating an article. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:45, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Orangemike: It's his own talk page, not "some other editor's". DuncanHill (talk) 17:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Gregorywall: Hi there! You may be interested in Help:Your first article, which will guide you through the process of creating a draft article that can be considered for publication. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 17:52, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]


Hello lovely people! I'm an avid wikipedia user, particularly on the mobile app on IOS. I love the app and used it regularly. However, just yesterday, I opened it for a late-night read, and lo and behold, everything is gone! And I mean everything; my saved pages, reading lists and history all disappeared. I've been using this for years avidly and a massive amount was lost overnight, an aggregate I doubt I'd be able to simply recover. So I'm writing to ask if there is anything I can do to recover what's been lost. One of the issues is I was using the app without an account, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference. Any ideas of what to do? Anyways, thanks for your consideration and patience and have a great day!

17:44, 21 October 2021 (UTC)17:44, 21 October 2021 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:40D:4300:9A3:C0DC:DF2B:3CAE:2EE3 (talk)

The mobile apps for Wikipedia are ...not great... but bookmarks and so on are usually saved by your browser. That may be where the problem is. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:06, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
The Android app has a bookmark-like feature; I assume the iOS app also does, and that's what the IP is referring to. I doubt their browser has anything to do with it. – Rummskartoffel 20:42, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I found this link: [1], which has instructions on how to report a bug in the iOS app. Questions can also be sent to mobile-ios-wikipedia at wikimedia dot org RudolfRed (talk) 18:47, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
If you register and use a Wikipedia account, the watchlist & contribution history are stored within Wikipedia and thus not dependent on a particular app to access it. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
The apps allow you to create reading lists that are synced to your account by the mw:Extension:Reading Lists. Unfortunately, OP, without an account the data is only stored locally. If it has disappeared, then you are probably out of luck. I think they should offer the option to store in iCloud or whatever the Google equivalent is (Drive?). You could submit a feature request. ⁓ Pelagicmessages ) 14:28, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Arecibo message[edit]

There does not seem to be any relevant posts or knowledge that prove any historical hoax revolving the Arecibo message. (In the case studies of crop circle investigations there is evidence of radiation and methods used that cannot be explained fully.) These instances cannot be replicated in any fashion by humans. There is a reason many crop circle investigations are ongoing. The incident involving the Arecibo message has yet to be explained by modern science and thus confirming the event to be a possible extraterrestrial response. In other words: It is impossible to be a hoax and the wiki page needs to be updated to meet scientific standards. People should see things for how they really are and not base findings as fact when they are not. If I am not allowed to do the edits myself and must complain to someone who can than so be it. Let the truth have it's day. Take for instance the real science that is taking place in these investigations. When you claim something is a hoax and have 0 proof that it is a hoax; then in my clinical opinion it is not a hoax. There seems to be more evidence that proves it's validity than the latter. I do appreciate the wiki and the public service it provides, but it's better to tell a truth than a lie. Please keep this standard as you continue to provide this service. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:800:8202:71E0:C9DD:30C4:752:ED3F (talk) 19:06, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Please address any concerns about an article to its talk page, in this case Talk:Arecibo message. Wikipedia summarizes independent reliable sources say, and makes no claims about truthfulness. See WP:TRUTH. 331dot (talk) 19:14, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Dear IP querant: for what it's worth, I live not far from Chilbolton, attend meetings for those interested in strange phenomena, and have met and talked to some of the people who made that crop image (and many others). Whether one considers it to be a hoax, performance art (as some regular crop-circle makers do), or something else, it's not aliens.
This assertion of mine is of course uncited hearsay, so you are free to take it any way you wish, or ignore it. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 21:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Pedant here - no unexplained phenomena is impossible to be a hoax - that's why it's called unexplained. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:16, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

change company name on page[edit]

Need to change company name from Pei Partnership Architects (old) to PEI Architects (New), but I can't seem to be able to make the change. Can someone help me? Anyone? Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bedoyapeiarchitects (talkcontribs) 20:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Bedoyapeiarchitects Retitling an article (not a "page") requires moving it; you may request this at Requested Moves. Also, if you haven't already, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 20:38, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Bedoyapeiarchitects: I moved the article. It needs more content besides a list of projects, and needs more sourcing. Besides the mandatory disclosures, please see WP:COIREQ. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:13, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[]

October 22[edit]

What template or action causes this?[edit]

After taking along break from Wikipedia, I have forgot how to use a few tools and templates. I am currently trying to find out what tool or template causes something like :

Note: WikiProject Disambiguation has been notified of this discussion. blank (talk) 15:05, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]

I copy and pasted that from a page that already had that notification. The question is what tool is used. Can someone please help and explain to me. Aceing_Winter_Snows_Harsh_Cold (talk) 03:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Aceing Winter Snows Harsh Cold: The {{Notified}} template is probably what you're probably looking for, though I believe the specific example that you mentioned comes from the script User:TheTVExpert/rmCloser (used for requested move discussions). DanCherek (talk) 03:58, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Malicious Commons: deletion request has removed current logo from infobox[edit]


I received a notice from a user called Flalf that the coat of arms in the infobox at is tagged for deletion, saying "Not own work as indicated, website logo ripped off archdiocese website. Flalf (talk) 02:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)" This was not "ripped off" the archdiocese website. There are no SVG files on the archdiocese website. Wikipedia prompts me to respond at the entry, but the only way to do so is to edit the comment, so I added to it: "This is an .svg file which is the official coat of arms of the Archdiocese of Chicago, and needs to be restored to the page immediately." Meanwhile, someone (I presume this Flalf) removed the current coat of arms from the page and replaced it with one that is over 5 years old. This does not represent the Archdiocese of Chicago and is incorrect. The correct coat of arms file does exist but I cannot seem to restore it to the infobox. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WaterWish298 (talkcontribs) 05:33, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

I see that you've now made the relevant edit to the infobox. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:07, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Confirmed User[edit]

I have been in Wikipedia for 4 days and edited more than 100 times so why I have not become Auto Confirmed User UserABCXYZ (talk) 05:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@UserABCXYZ you have not quite yet been here for four days, the autoconfirmed group will be applied when four days exactly have passed since registration. firefly ( t · c ) 06:41, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
According to [2], your account was registered at "2021-10-18 10:15". Which means you should become autoconfirmed soon after 10:15 UTC today (2 hours from now, though it doesn't always happen immediately to the minute when 4 days has elapsed). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:19, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Flow Chemistry[edit]

Information about "Flow Chemistry" is like telling the world that Earth revolves and it is a new revelation.

Every time a liquid is charged to a vessel whether it is used in a batch or continuous process it has to flow. So "Flow" is not a new revelation.

For Batch process, liquids are charged to a reactor and stopped before the reaction is started. It is an intermittent flow of liquids i.e. stop and go. So it cannot be called "Flow Chemistry".

For continuous processes liquids flow continuously 24x7x52 hours per year.

These two definitions have existed since humans could think. Thus most of the information on "FLOW CHEMSITRY" Wikipedia is nothing new for chemists and chemical engineers.

It seems whosoever has added subject matter needs to think. 2+2=4 will remain a fact.

Not a single example of a commercial process that is being used is given.

There are only Batch Processes or Continuous Processes and THERE ARE NO FLOW CHEMISTRY PROCESSES.

Most information is relates to use of "micro reactors" that due to they being a huge investment have NO VALUE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Did you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:02, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
(edit conflict) Hello, IP user. If you have suggestions to make about an article, please make them on the talk page of that article; in this case Talk:Flow chemistry. Wikipedia is not a publisher of new ideas, but a summariser of what has already been published: some of that will appear obvious to some readers. Having said that, I'm inclined to agree that the article does not establish that "flow chemistry" is (yet) a topic which meets Wikipedia's criteria for WP:notability - i.e. that "flow chemistry" has specifically been written about much. But again, the place to discuss this is on the talk page; WT:WikiProject Chemistry would also be a good place. --ColinFine (talk) 14:06, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
The IP editor may like to read the 2020 review article "How to approach flow chemistry" from the RSC available as a .pdf here Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Ref Page:[edit]

Greetings,I am new here and from Romania.I did some research online and I would like an editor to correct this article mentioned in the Subject-

I have sources below which back my claim

</ref>Ahmad, Sohail (19 January 2021). "How Dawood empire got destroyed by the same ISI that created it".</ref>

</ref>Navashree, Nandini (15 January 2021). "CONFIRMED". Indian Defence Review. Text "Dawood In Karachi, Pakistan's ISI Harbouring Chota Shakeel: Arrested Lakdawala" ignored (help)</ref>

</ref>Navashree. "Former ISI officials confirm the death of Gangster Chhota Shakeel". [[]].</ref>

I am very bad at editing Wikipedia and it' my first time-I need help as I am just trying.If someone can help me out I would be grateful.

The subject is deceased when the page says he is alive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freenewsnetwork (talkcontribs) 14:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

The place for discussion of the article is Talk:Chhota Shakeel. You will see that there has been much discussion of rumours of his death. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:46, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

A message of adding as 'not constructive'[edit]

Sir Edward Tierney was a slave owner. It appears adding this fact on Wikipedia is no constructive. Could you please explain why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:28, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

The problem was that your edits were unsourced. See WP:Verifiability. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
The text that you added appears to be a direct copy and paste of copyrighted text taken from the Admiral Sir Edmund Nagle page at the Centre for the Study of the Legacies of British Slavery website. See WP:COPYVIO.
Trappist the monk (talk) 13:43, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
(edit conflict) Hello, please provide a link to the edit concerned, there does not seem to be an edit in the history of the IP address used to post here and Wikipedia does not appear to have an article in the name Edward Tierney. There is an explanation in respect of edits to Edmund Nagle (that they are unsourced) at your talk page. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk){ec}}
IP editor made this edit at Edmund Nagle which was reverted by Editor Serols. I can't speak to Edward Tierney.
Trappist the monk (talk) 14:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Hello, your edit Slave owner was without sources. Regards --Serols (talk) 14:39, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Can this be resolved by someone helping the new user add the information in line with Wikipedia's rules? It seems as though the source is reliable. I don't understand the topic well enough to do this well. Thanks, John Cummings (talk) 19:54, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@John Cummings: Per the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, the editor can discuss their suggestion on the article's talk page to come to a consensus with the reverter and other interested editors. GoingBatty (talk) 21:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

English language[edit]

What is the meaning of criticism — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:41, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Have you looked at our article on Criticism? (It's not very good, but it gives some idea). Or if you just want a dictionary, see the entry in Wiktionary. --ColinFine (talk) 16:01, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How to make a page[edit]

To whom it may concern,I'm wondering how I could make my own page,A response would be appreciated,Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian j Willemse (talkcontribs) 19:08, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Brian j Willemse: Hi there, and welcome to Wikipedia! I see you've already created a user page, and suggest you first review Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors. Next, to learn how to edit the encyclopedia articles here at Wikipedia, I suggest you review Help:Introduction and run through the game at Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure. Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do at Wikipedia, so I suggest lots of experience editing existing articles first. Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged: see Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If you want to create an article that meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability", then you can follow the instructions at Help:Your first article. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@GoingBatty:thankyou for your response and advice highly appreciated.

Are all species considered notable?[edit]


Is there a specific rule for the notability of species on English Wikipedia? Are all species considered notable, if so where is this written?

If all species are considered notable what rules would apply in terms of the minimum length of the article and the number of references needed?

Thanks very much

. John Cummings (talk) 19:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@John Cummings: Hi there! See WP:SPECIESOUTCOMES. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Hi GoingBatty thanks so much for this, very helpful, if there are any other relevant policies you're aware of please do let me know. Thanks again, John Cummings (talk) 19:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@John Cummings: Depending on the species, the related WikiProject may have its own article guidelines. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life#Scope and related projects for links to many WikiProjects. GoingBatty (talk) 19:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks very much GoingBatty. John Cummings (talk) 19:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]


is are brain big or small — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123456790abbi (talkcontribs) 19:57, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@123456790abbi: Hi there! "big" and "small" are relative terms. You might find your answer at the Human brain article. This Help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions. If you have any factual questions, please use the search box or post them on the Wikipedia:Reference desk. GoingBatty (talk) 21:14, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How to remove hateful comments from talk page?[edit]

To whom it may concern, A user who goes by 2600:8801:8109:A700:E074:93A7:C26F:3532 (or at least has that IP address) left the following comment on my talk page: "Your a misinformation pos" and commented (Lies) in the section to describe changes. Can something be done about that? Could the comment be removed from my talk page or you cannot revert it? I feel like it's a hurtful/hateful comment that shouldn't be there. Please contact me with how you would proceed. Thank you in advance. Losipov (talk) 20:03, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Losipov: With the exception of a few things, anything can be removed from your own user talk page. The act of doing so is taken to mean that you have read and acknowledged the matter. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:07, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Losipov: - I've removed that comment and edit summary from your history under WP:RD3. As that was the IPs only edit to Wikipedia, I can't justify any further action against the IP, such as a short block. Mjroots (talk) 08:31, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Have I been booted off Wiki I am sure I used to have a page?![edit]

Hello! I am pretty sure I used to have a Wikipedia page and it has been deleted? For what reason would I have been got rid of do you think? I am not trying to be obnoxious, I am just trying to relaunch my career in my chosen field and it would help if I was able to have my page back with who I have worked for. I don't want anything fancy or dramatic just a list of people that I have written for. Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 21:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi there! If you tell us the name of the article (or draft or user page), we would be able to tell you if it existed and if it was deleted and why. In general, it could have been a copyright issue or not being neutral or not meeting Wikipedia's notability requirements. GoingBatty (talk) 21:18, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi Going Batty (I have gone batty) I tried to reply I am not sure if it worked though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 21:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC) Ok me again. I think out of all those reasons you gave it must be I don't meet Wiki's notability requirements. Cringe. Please could you let me know? It is Emma Parker Bowles 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 21:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 21:39, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

The article about you was deleted after a discussion here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emma Parker Bowles, you were not considered notable in Wikipedia's terms. Theroadislong (talk) 21:49, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Just had a read on the discussion - lol. A bit harsh. I absolutely don't think I should have had a page for any tenuous links to the RF BUT in my defence I was the UK's top female motoring journalist for many years where i kicked ass in a male dominated sphere.(Vicky Butler Henderson was the Queen of the Screen I just wrote a lot but we were both really successful.) I had a weekly motoring column in the Sun newspaper for years, a motoring column in a women's lifestyle magazine for 8 years and I wrote for Top Gear magazine, Sunday Times, Robb Report etc etc. And did a motoring show called Vroom Vroom. 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 22:07, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

And this nugget from that discussion is grossly unfair, untrue and unkind. "I get the feeling it was merely paraphrasing press releases for those companies as a 'hey it's that person' type of personality, and hardly any kind of investigative journalism" You don't keep a weekly motoring column on the Sun newspaper by paraphrasing press releases trust me. But glad to see that is where my (modest) Wiki donations went to - people being mean!!! 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 22:11, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi Emma, I've just read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emma Parker Bowles and I'm fairly embarrassed that some editors decided to make comments like that. You may not meet our notability requirements, but that's no excuse for rudeness. I'm very sorry. 22:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate that. It was disappointing because it was not what I imagined the Wiki community to be all about. But no hard feelings. One love! 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 22:50, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

In addition, it's worth noting that Wikipedia has quite specific notability guidelines which might not exactly correspond to common understandings of notability. Not having an article about yourself does not mean that you are not notable in your field, and if you are relaunching your career I would suggest that it would be far more useful to have your own website where you can control all the content, rather than relying on a Wikipedia article. And the deletion discussion unfortunately might be an example of why An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ClaudineChionh (talk) 23:53, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Thank you Claudine for your sage advice and for your gracious comments. Much appreciated. 2603:8000:FE02:83C6:BC90:FCEB:45C9:A325 (talk) 00:31, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How do I properly point a citation to a specific location in a book[edit]


How do I cite a location in a book without page numbers that is in the style of an encyclopedia? The book in question is

  • Clements, Jonathan; McCarthy, Helen (2015). The Anime Encyclopedia, 3rd Revised Edition: A Century of Japanese Animation. Muramasa Industries Ltd. ISBN 978-1-61172-018-1.

The book is structured like an encyclopedia with different entries under headings, but without page numbers. I don't think these entries are really "chapters". Does {{cite book}} have a parameter that can be used in such case, i.e., that I can use to point to one of the orange "headings" in the book? Would the "chapter" parameter be the correct parameter to use here and, if not, which parameter of the template should I use? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:24, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

According to the the look-inside view at Amazon, the print version of encyclopedia has page numbers. Were I citing the print version I would write:
{{cite encyclopedia |last=Clements |first=Jonathan |last2=McCarthy |first2=Helen |entry=Air Gear |encyclopedia=The Anime Encyclopedia: A Century of Japanese Animation |page=17 |edition=3rd Revised |date=2015 |publisher=Muramasa Industries |isbn=978-1-61172-018-1}}
Clements, Jonathan; McCarthy, Helen (2015). "Air Gear". The Anime Encyclopedia: A Century of Japanese Animation (3rd Revised ed.). Berkley, CA: Stone Bridge Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-1-61172-018-1.
For the kindle version:
{{cite encyclopedia |last=Clements |first=Jonathan |last2=McCarthy |first2=Helen |entry=Air Gear |encyclopedia=The Anime Encyclopedia: A Century of Japanese Animation |type=Kindle |edition=3rd Revised |date=2015 |publisher=Muramasa Industries |isbn=978-1-61172-018-1}}
Clements, Jonathan; McCarthy, Helen (2015). "Air Gear". The Anime Encyclopedia: A Century of Japanese Animation (Kindle; 3rd Revised ed.). Berkley, CA: Stone Bridge Press. ISBN 978-1-61172-018-1.
Trappist the monk (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
From the title index in the sample on Amazon I could deduce that the page number I am looking for is 859, so I added the corresponding parameter with this value to the citation in question. Thanks for the help. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:23, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Side-channel attack[edit]

Header inserted by ColinFine (talk) 08:54, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:29, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hello? Have you got a question about our article Side-channel attack? --ColinFine (talk) 08:54, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

How to Create A Wikipedia Page[edit]

Please help me figure out how exactly(on the page) to upload or make a wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indomitable1 (talkcontribs) 23:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Take a look at WP:FIRST Girth Summit (blether) 23:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[]
But please be aware, Indomitable1, that this question is a litte like "Please help me figure out how exactly to build a house". The best answer is "Start by learning the building trade". Spend at least a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by improving some of our six million existing articles before you even think of doing this. You are likely to have a much less frustrating time. --ColinFine (talk) 08:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

October 23[edit]

Can I unarchive a proposal at WP:VPR?[edit]


Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 184#Migrate archive URLs from WebCite to the Wayback Machine was apparently archived automatically. There seems to be sort of support for the idea, but the discussion was not closed and no clear end result seemed to be reached. Should I unarchive the discussion and add it back to VPR? Or is the discussion enough of a consensus for a request at WP:BOTREQ? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:55, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

I'd try for a botreq. Mjroots (talk) 14:23, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Okay, done. Thank you. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:50, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Birth year template help[edit]

Hi. I need help with the birth year template because it seems to be broken. I have been adding info boxes to some pages for certain people where only the month and year they were born in is known. For some reason the (birth year and age) template works fine but the {birth year) on it's own does not. For example if we use the date August 1980:

If we do (birth year and age) it reads fine as follows: August 1980 (age 41)

But if the person has died and we remove the "and age" section it just reads as this: 8 (1980)

Any help please? Thanks. Inexpiable (talk) 10:09, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

{{birth year}} is a redirect to {{birth-date}} which creates microformat data from the date specified in {{{1}}} (1980 in your example). When {{{2}}} does not exist, {{birth-date}} displays the value in {{{1}}}. The documentation is rather poor on this but when {{{2}}} is present and set, that is the value that the template displays; see Template:Birth-date § Parameters. So, in your example, {{{2}}} is set to 8 so that is what the template displays.
Perhaps the template that you want is {{birth date}} (without the hyphen)?
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:54, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Trappist the monk It still doesn't work it just returns this if we use the above example: (1980-08-{{{day}}})August Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "{"., 1980 Inexpiable (talk) 14:20, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Read the template's documentation. You have to give it the whole date: {{birth date|1980|8|22}}(1980-08-22)August 22, 1980
Are you using the template to get the microformat metadata? Perhaps:
{{Birth-date|August 1980}} → August 1980 (1980-08)
August 1980<span style="display:none">&#160;(<span class="dtstart bday">1980-08</span>)</span>
If not, why don't you just write out the date in plain text: August 1980?
Trappist the monk (talk) 14:40, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Ok it works if you use this one: {{Birth-date|August 1980}} → August 1980 (1980-08) Still not ideal though when it comes to keeping coding the same, the code is definitely bugged and flawed when it comes to this. You really should be able to format it this way with just the month and year of birth without needing to add "22" in the following example: {{birth date|1980|8|22}}(1980-08-22)August 22, 1980
It would be nice if this worked without having to add the exact date if it is not known: {{birth date|1980|8}}(1980-08-{{{day}}})August Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "{"., 1980

But thank you anyway for the help, it does work at least. Inexpiable (talk) 15:24, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]


John Brown

How to put a picture in a page? I've been trying to put it but I can't. Kenzie Abraham (talk) 10:50, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Typically like this: [[File:1846-47 John Brown by Augustus Washington (without frame).jpg|right|thumb|John Brown]], which is the code used to display the image at right. The four sections are 1) filename, 2) page location (left or right), 3) the keyword "thumb", and 4) the caption if any.
Just change the filename, page location, and caption to what you want (you don't need to have a caption). This is assuming that you want a "thumbnail" size display which is generally true. Herostratus (talk) 12:06, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Kenzie Abraham: the "file" must be resident on Commons or on the English Wikipedia before you can put it in an article as above. To add yoour ficture to Commons(preferred) or on the English Wikipedia, use the file upload wizard by clicking on "upload file" in the left-hand column of this or any other page. -Arch dude (talk) 18:14, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Template:Indigenous rights footer[edit]

Template:Indigenous rights footer is transcluded on a few biographic articles and was on the Bartolomé de las Casas, an important figure (social reformer, writer documenting atrocities against indigenous people). The editor removed it saying the "Template does not list anyone". My questions are: Is that a valid reason to remove this specific template from this bio? If yes, then template can updated to include people, right? If this template (labeled International Indigenous and minority rights) doesn't include people, can it still be added to a person's article? Because if anyone should have this template on their page, it is Bartolomé de las Casas (who wrote A Short Account of the Destruction of the Indies, IMHO. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 13:41, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

In general, templates that list articles should only be included on the articles which it links to and vice versa. It may be reasonable to add those who have fought for those rights to the template, although that might expand it too much. I'd suggest a discussion on Template talk:Indigenous rights.Naraht (talk) 13:48, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Yuki Shimoda Page[edit]


I want to start including inline citations (or references to external sources) for this page:

For example, I found this web page which I can cite,

BUT, I'm so confused. It seems like I need to first include a REFERENCE section in the TOC box, but even though I've been trying to figure out to figure this out, I'm stymied.

I've really got very little time to do this, so, if someone could assist, I'd be most appreciative!

BoyScoutish (talk) 14:57, 23 October 2021 (UTC)BoyScoutish[]

@BoyScoutish If you add a heading for references it will auto-generate a TOC entry. All; TOC entries are autogenerated. Your heading should look like this:
It is good practice to place
beneath that new heading. References will appear there.
Please read Help:Referencing for beginners and Wikipedia:Citing sources and return here, ideally to this same section, for further questions FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 15:10, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]


Xy=1+2/4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:41, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

If you have a question about this equation, you are better off helped at Wikipedia:RD/Math. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:03, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
But note they will not do your coursework for you, and nor will we. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 02:55, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

"[[]] Content" section in TOC_limit template? Visual editor doesn't seem to handle some templates right.[edit]

screenshot of visual editor template transclusion

I wanted to edit the last paragraph of the lede of in the visual editor, but clicking on it highlighted the whole paragraph and led me to edit the TOC_limit template, where the whole paragraph was in a bogus-seeming "[[]] Content" section. When I examined the page in source editing, I saw that the template was simply placed at the end of the paragraph. Why on earth would the visual editor present the paragraph that way for editing? See the screenshot. When I put the template on a line by itself, the problem went away. Is this a VE bug? ★NealMcB★ (talk) 15:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Nealmcb: I occasionally get a similar problem. Exiting out of the visual editor and refreshing the page usually fixes the problem, but someone at the WP:VPT might know if a ticket's been filed for this issue or a workaround. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:05, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks for the input. But I can still reproduce the problem. It happens in an up-to-date Chrome browser (Version 95.0.4638.54 (Official Build) beta (64-bit)) every time. I just opened it in Firefox and saw the same thing. Does WP:VPT monitor this space? ★NealMcB★ (talk) 16:12, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I gave up on the visual editor years ago. It's fine for editing the prose and basic text formatting, but beyond that it's better to use the source editor. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:01, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Button of Doom vandal[edit]

block/ban this ip (indefinitely), They are disruptively editing the article on Megamind: The Button of Doom with information of a non-existent sequel they are calling "Wrath of Mebooba". They have absolutely zippo proof of it! Visokor (talk) 18:19, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Visokor We don't block IPs indefinitely. This is an IPv6 and will change frequently. I've semi protected the page for a week. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 19:26, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Table column formatting[edit]

Hello, does anybody know what exactly to do to fix the table formatting as to the final column at List of current constituent African monarchs#List of constituent African monarchs? Thanks in advance for any assistance.--Hildeoc (talk) 18:33, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Hildeoc: Excessive rowspan for Ghana (was 11 for just nine rows), and missing cells in the reference row. I've fixed it. I've also removed invalid HTML5, irrelevant WP:BOLD, and the pointless dark-grey/white colour combination for the left-most two columns because they broke Wikipedia's accessibility directives (WP:COLOURCONTRAST); same for subheadings within tables. The article's a bit of a mess with split tables: it would be better to merge all into a single table, followed by any country-specific notes, narrative, or images. (I will do that if requested.) Bazza (talk) 19:15, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Bazza 7: Thank you so, so much for taking care of that! Regarding your merger proposal, that would be great AFAIC! So feel free to go ahead if you like. Best wishes--Hildeoc (talk) 20:28, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Archiving website sources[edit]

Hello Help desk volunteers. I have websites in New Albion which I would like to archive. I have relied upon the generosity of another editor who has archived many websites in various articles I've written. However, this editor's health is such that I would like ease my requests of him/her. The editor tried to help me with archiving, but we discovered that he/she has a special tool that is no longer available.

I look for directions on Wikipedia as to how to archive sources, but find none. So, where might I proceed from here. I've four websites on the New Albion article I would like to archive or have archived. I look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards,Hu Nhu (talk) 23:05, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Hu Nhu: Try WP:WBM. Eagleash (talk) 23:30, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[]
There's also an automated option. You can run the InternetArchiveBot on a page by going to the page history and clicking "Fix dead links" (it's with the "External tools"). There's a checkbox to add archive links to non-dead websites. – Anon423 (talk) 04:58, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Hello Eagleash and Anon423 and thank you for your prompt responses. The internet archive was down due to scheduled maintenance. I found the Fix dead links with no trouble, but I was not able to proceed beyond clicking it. For several minutes, the operation languished, going nowhere. I will attempt both operations tomorrow and discover what happens. I will also let you know the outcome. Most kind regards and thanks to you both again for your kind attention,Hu Nhu (talk) 21:39, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I just tried it on a random article and I think it's working now. It can take a while to run, especially if the page is large and has many references. It might not do anything unless you click the "Add archives to all non-dead references (Optional)" checkbox, since otherwise it only adds archive links to dead websites. – Anon423 (talk) 00:14, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]

October 24[edit]

Wikilink preview[edit]

When I hover over a wikilink I am no longer able to see a preview when I'm logged in. I am able to see a preview if I'm not logged in. Bob K31416 (talk) 00:36, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Bob K31416: The preview feature for unregistered users is "Enable page previews" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. Registered users can also choose another preview feature "Navigation popups" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:44, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks. Bob K31416 (talk) 01:12, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Regarding unregistered users, is the default: enable page previews? Also, when I clicked on the link in your first sentence when not logged in, it asked me to log in. I thought the link in the first sentence was for unregistered users but apparently it isn't. Bob K31416 (talk) 01:36, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Bob K31416: Basically, unregistered users have Page Previews enabled (and enforced). When signed in you can go into your preferences and disable it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:42, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks. Bob K31416 (talk) 01:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Common.js and common.css page[edit]

Hello there! Why I cannot request speedy deletion on my common.js and common.css page? Vitaium (talk) 06:30, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

You should be able to; what did you try? Enterprisey (talk!) 07:34, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Vitaium: Follow the instructions at Template:Db-g7#CSS and Javascript pages -- John of Reading (talk) 08:08, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

new page templates[edit]

hi i am new here and heard that there is a template for creating a new page can you give me the link please — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Wright in Spain (talkcontribs) 10:07, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

One minute after posting this, David Wright in Spain, you posted the same question in the Teahouse. Let's answer it there rather than here. -- Hoary (talk) 11:54, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]


{{#invoke:string|find|1997 Sydney International – Women's Doubles|{{PAGENAME}}}} → 0 when run on 1997 Sydney International – Women's Doubles. Why doesn't it evaluate to 1, and is there a function that will? Thanks, -- Sod25 (talk) 16:38, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Because the apostrophe in "Women's" is the html numeric character reference &#39;. Rewrite:
{{#invoke:string|find|1997 Sydney International – Women&#39;s Doubles|{{PAGENAME}}}}
Trappist the monk (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Ah, thought the apostrophe might have been the culprit - thanks. --Sod25 (talk) 17:40, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Sod25: You can say {{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}}} per mw:Help:Magic words#Page names to get the page name without encoded characters: {{#invoke:string|find|1997 Sydney International – Women's Doubles|{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}}}}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:45, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]

photos not showing up on Historic Register site page[edit]

Looking for assistance to help my photos of the Deeble Rock Garden in Lucas Kansas show up on this page,,_Kansas Thanks for any help. SharonPapierdreams (talk) 23:24, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@SharonPapierdreams: Have you uploaded your photos to Commons or Wikipedia? If so, what are their file names? If not, you can use Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard - or the "Upload image" links in the article. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 23:33, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Yes, I uploaded them to WikiCommons last week but they are not showing up. Deeble Rock Garden Lucas Kansas house porch.jpg (file) Deeble Rock Garden Lucas Kansas house entrance.jpg (file) Deeble Rock Garden Lucas Kansas 6.jpg (file) Deeble Rock Garden Lucas Kansas 5.jpg (file) Deeble Rock Garden Lucas Kansas 4.jpg (file) Deeble Rock Garden Lucas Kansas 3.jpg (file) Deeble Rock Garden Lucas Kansas 2.jpg (file) Deeble Rock Garden Lucas Kansas 1.jpg (file)

SharonPapierdreams (talk) 23:39, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@SharonPapierdreams: I'm able to view them through your contributions without any problems. It doesn't appear you've edited the page you're concerned about, though. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:57, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Usually I just upload the photos to the listing and they show up. SharonPapierdreams (talk) 00:09, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@SharonPapierdreams: They don't show up automatically. You have to edit the page and add the file name to the image parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:30, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Vandalism help request from[edit]

I have noticed some vandalism at Longford_Senior_Football_Championship. Namely, table of titles changes made on 22nd October 2021 whereby changes were made which are not aligned with the cited executive source for that dataset at Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, (talk) 23:32, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hi there! You can revert the edit - see WP:UNDO. Be sure to explain why you reverted it in your edit summary. GoingBatty (talk) 23:39, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[]

October 25[edit]

Automatic logout from wikipedia[edit]

Hello, I have an account in wikipedia. When i login ( with “up to 365 days...” checked), after a few days it automatically logs me out. Is there a way to stay permanently logged in ? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dost17 (talkcontribs) 04:32, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]

You ask the same question at the "Help desk", Dost17. Please only ask a question in one place at one time. The question seems better suited to the Help desk than here. I suggest that any response is posted there. -- Hoary (talk) 04:53, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]
This is the help desk and Dost17 only posted here. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:22, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]

hii — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShivPuri007 (talkcontribs) 05:36, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Wrongly pisted ohotograph[edit]

On the Benno Schotz (my late father) site there appears a photograph of the sculptor Benno Elkan, standing in front of his sculptured Menorah. It should be removed and reposted on the Benno Elkan page. Thank you, Amiel Schotz — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:23, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Hello! I can't see any such photo on the WP-article Benno Schotz. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:10, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[]