# February 5

I've asked some questions about ID during this past week.Two of them (in the Science section)just disappeared from the list of questions before they were even answered!What happened to them and where are they now?Tell me, please! Bowei 00:49, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Pages like this are archived after a couple of days. The information is still in the history, so if you go to Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science and press the history button, you'll get an overview of all the modifications, so what you can do is press Next 50 several times until you get to the page just before the date was archived. If the question is unanswered, it might be wise to go the specific page and try to ask one of the major authors of the document whether they can help you. Dr Debug (Talk) 00:54, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

In this case it actually turns out that the question was deleted. If you take a look at the edit logs after when you posted your question, after much discussion and pointing out that Wikipedia is not a soapbox, your question was deleted because it was not deemed to be a scientific question. -- Natalya 01:04, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Merge request tag removal

When someone proposes a merge, how long should the tag on the main page of it stay up before it can be taken down, assuming that there have been no counter-arguments to an argument against moving the page?

Specifically referring to Sex-selective abortion and infanticide, where my opposition to the move has been unanswered for a week. Fieari 01:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Generally, you might wait an amount of time going by how often the article is edited; if you here nothing from the editors of the article after a reasonable number of them are likely to see your comments, then go ahead. In general, try it and see — if anyone disagrees with you, they can easily reinstate it. In this case, I think it'd be fine to remove the tag now, without prejudice to someone wanting to reinstate it. -Splashtalk 02:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Edits

I made an edit to an article (about the mitochondrion, more specifically, its inner membrane). As part of the edit explanation I uploaded an image with a longer explanation, an offer to help improve the existing cartoon, and a published reference that served as the basis for the edit.

The edit is in place.

1) Does someone (a reviewer?, the original author?) read the "supporting material" and decide whether to (1) question my edit or (2) follow up with me re possible further changes?

2) Searching on the image file name does not find it. I can't figure out how to find it or the explanation of the edit.

This is an interesting way to run an encyclopedia. Reminiscent of open source software development but much more open.

Carmmann 03:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Possibly, but not nessisarily. Basically, the edit you made... is an edit. You are an official editor of the wikipedia. In general, we Assume Good Faith when people edit articles, in that we assume that you're trying to help, think that the edit would improve the article, is accurate, and all that.
On the other hand, vandals do happen, and for that reason, anyone can monitor every edit that happens. Check out the "Recent Changes" link to the left for all the changes everywhere on the site, and the "History" link above for all the changes to the article you're reading at the time. When you see these lists of edits, you can read the comments people make when submitting an edit, as well as seeing what they changed. Use the "Compare Versions" button, or just click the link next to an edit labeled "Last" to see what was changed. In this way, anyone can quickly notice if the person is just vandalizing the article... in which case anyone can then go to a previous version, copy the text, and return things to the rightful state.
Changes are usually scrutinized by a large number of people, mostly for obvious vandalism. Sneaky Vandalism, in which information is changed in subtle ways (changing a date, for instance) can be detected by looking at the edit summary... if they don't explain the source, it's usually reverted. We like to have all information Cited. Uncited information can stay for a little while, but we work hard to get sources for things.
When reverts happen, or when a controvery comes up, the Discussion Page is used. See the link at the top of each article.
In summary:
1) Yes. But YOU are the reviewer, and so is any other random person that wanders by.
2) See the "History" or "Recent Changes" links.
Any more quiestions? Fieari 04:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Editing categories

How do you add articles to categories? Ksenon 04:02, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Put the following at the bottom of the article in question:
[[Category:<Name of category>]]
Fieari 04:08, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Of course if it's a person' biography or something like that, you should put [[Category:<name of category>|<last name>, <first name>]] so that they are listed in alphabetical order by their last name and not their first. See Wikipedia:Category for more info. Dismas|(talk) 05:12, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

how to apply as a flight attendnt in this airlins?

First, put your seat back and tray table in its fully upright and locked position. Then, go to another Web page that is more relevant to this subject matter than a page for seeking help about Wikipedia itself. Perhaps the sites of airlines, like American Airlines or Delta would have some useful information, such as contact information for their headquarters. *Dan T.* 04:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Dan, be nice. That could have been handled more diplomatically. Nevertheless, this isn't the place for that kind of question. You might get a friendlier responce over at Wikipedia:Reference desk though, or of course, at the airline websites as suggested. Fieari 04:23, 5 February 2006 (UTC

## microsoft who created the company?

who created the company?

Questions like this belong on the reference desk. This page is for help with using Wikipedia. But the answer to your question is on the Microsoft article. - Akamad 05:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Deleting talk pages

Hi. I was wondering if it is possible to delete talk pages. Because I accidentally created these two talk page archives: Talk:Akamad/Archive01 and Talk:Akamad/Archive02, when they should have been at: User talk:Akamad/Archive01 and User talk:Akamad/Archive02. I listed the two to be speedy deleted, then realised that deleting the pages doesn't result in the talk pages been deleted. So my question is can the incorrect talk pages I created be deleted? Thanks. - Akamad 05:34, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Done. Evil saltine 05:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. - Akamad 05:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Can you please advise HOW it is done? Garrie 03:55, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
As far as I know, only admins can delete pages - normal users can't. — QuantumEleven | (talk) 14:55, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

## problem

I'm having a rather strange problem. English Wikipedia seems to be blocked on my computer. I can't access it on any browser, including IE, firefox, and Opera (not that I can't edit Wikipedia, I can't even view the site at all, nor can I link to it from a google search). I can access any other website, including any other language wikipedia, but I can't get to English wikipedia. I'm writing from my friend's computer. No one else on the network in my dorm is blocked from Wikipedia, so I find this very strange. can anyone offer any help, or any possible reason why this could have happened? If this is the wrong place to post something like this, then please direct me to the right place.--Alhutch 05:38, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Only things I can think of would be a firewall issue or using a bad cached page. Try clearing out your page cache / internet files and setting the browser to load the page new each time. Then shut down and restart the browser before trying to access Wikipedia. If that doesn't work then check your firewall and/or browser allowed site settings to see if Wikipedia is somehow blacklisted. --CBD 17:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thanks, I'll try that.--Alhutch 17:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Problem solved.--Alhutch 22:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Posting screen shots of technical issues

I have some screenshots showing the problems I am intermittently having in having certain pages display properly (discussed here and here) I want to know where it would be appropriate to upload these pictures, and how to link to them, and so forth. Should I do it the same way as for any other pictures? Carcharoth 09:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

• Upload it like any other and link it to wherever it needs to be. See Wikipedia:Image tutorial. I posted a screenshot at WP:RD/M recently. If you click the image, you can see what I did. - Mgm|(talk) 12:13, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Can't see an uploaded image... but others can!

I'm having a rather strange problem with an image I uploaded for my first new article. The image file page is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Badplanet_01.jpg

The problem is that I'm creating an article for that comic book, and I can't see the image for the cover of the first issue that I uploaded. But when I pasted that link to one of my friends thousands of miles away, he says he sees it just fine. I tried opening new windows of Firefox and IE, even restarting my computer... no dice. All I see is the image page in its entirety, minus the image in question.

I poked around a bit in the help section and Firefox's Content Options are checked for "Load Images" and unchecked for "from originating site only". Of course, a problem here wouldn't have made sense anyway, since I can see every other image on Wikipedia, including the on the "recently added images" page... except mine.

What's the deal?

If you look at the URL for the image itself, you'll see it contains "/ad/" (mediawiki assignes images to directories with essentially random alphabetic names). Clearly you're running one of a number of firefox ad-blocking programs which contains a pattern to block urls with "ad" in them. You need to either remove that pattern or add *.wikipedia.org and *.wikimedia.org to the extension's whitelist. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 12:05, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Meaning of NPOV policy: Proportion of representation among experts OR among concerned parties

The NPOV policy states: "we should present competing views in proportion to their representation among experts on the subject, or among the concerned parties."

Since the conjunction used here is or implying that the second part is but an alternative, should we take this to mean that if there are experts on the subject with different points of view, there is no need to look into how the topic itself affects concerned parties nor much less how the ordinary people opine about the subject.

I base my interpretation in that the decision on what is majority and minority viewpoints is based on reference texts (experts I presume) and prominent adherents. See NPOV policy: "From Jimbo Wales, September 2003, on the mailing list: If a viewpoint is in the majority, then it should be easy to substantiate it with reference to commonly accepted reference texts;* If a viewpoint is held by a significant minority, then it should be easy to name prominent adherents."

To summarize: the "or" means that if there are experts, commonly referenced texts and prominent adherents, we should not look into the opinions of ordinary people or how people in general feel about the subject? Thanks. Lafem 12:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

The comma in that statement is a hypercorrection. I think this is a poorly-written way of saying "we should present competing views in proportion to their representation among concerned parties and experts on the subject" — that is, we should present all views to an appropriate degree, which is what the rest of the policy says. ᓛᖁ 15:50, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you Eequor. That's a very scholarly response. It seems very bad writing indeed if that is the intent and policy-makers could have just chosen another conjunction such as and. That is why I am bringing this up in other forums for others to see. Thanks again. Lafem 05:34, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

## deletion of account

How long does it take for you to stop using your account so it can get deleted? Cory pratt 8:09, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Accounts don't get deleted. You can just stop editing if you like. I believe it has something to do with the GFDL license that says that user accounts have to remain in place so that edits can be attributed to the account even if the user no longer edits. Dismas|(talk) 13:51, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Film anniversary section

I'm curious if something really belongs in an article. The specific item is the "Anniversary" section of the article for Fred Ward. It seems to be a listing, in poor grammar, of which films, in which Fred Ward acted, that came out X number of years/months ago as of this month. To me, this doesn't belong, which is why I've removed it once already, but an anon has brought it back. So does this belong? Dismas|(talk) 13:58, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Generally, you should ask these sorts of questions either in Request for Comments, or on the discussion page of the article. In this specific case though, since you asked, I would agree with you. Fieari 17:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. Dismas|(talk) 01:38, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

## change account name

Do any of you guys know how to change your wikipedian name because my name is kinda dull and I was wondering if its possible to change my account name. Cory pratt 9:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Changing username. But unless you're particularly proud of your edits so far, it would be simpler just to start a new account (and stop using the old one, to avoid complications). Markyour words 14:13, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Flagging an Article

I have seen a flag at the top of some articles which states, more or less, that it has been suggested that the article is not written in the formal tone normally associated with an encyclopedia. How do I apply this flag to an article? In fact, how do I apply any flag to an article, such as POV, possible merging, etc.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Feline Nursery (talkcontribs)

The flags - we call them templates - are listed at Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates. You apply the NPOV template by adding {{npov}} to the document. In general the policy / help page often includes the flags which are suitable if you think that a certain page needs to be changed. Dr Debug (Talk) 18:15, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
BTW: You can use ~~~~ to sign your questions. That way it is easier to contact you. Dr Debug (Talk) 18:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Be sure if you add these flags that you explain your concerns in detail (preferably with suggestions for improvement, but at least constructively) in the article's talk page (or wherever this particular tag suggests). If you don't, your ideas are likely to be unclear, and your flags can simply be removed. Notinasnaid 19:32, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Positioning of Show/Hide button

I've been looking through the editing help pages in vain. Does anyone here know how to position the Show/Hide button in a nav frame for a page? Forcing it left or forcing it right is fine. Is it possible to force the Show/Hide button to appear directly after a piece of text? I've discovered that it is a javascript toggle, and it is mainly used to show/hide the Table of Contents (TOC), but I can't find anything about it at Wikipedia:Section. I did however find Template:Hidden and Template:Hidden_begin, if that is any help and someone can explain how these are doing what they do! Carcharoth 19:12, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that it is a template, because it's javascript. It might be listed in the commons.css or main.css but I'm not sure, because I don't recall the location of the css files (it's somewhere in the media directory). Hide/Show can be used to hide the TOC, but I never used it. Dr Debug (Talk) 19:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Do you want to reposition the Show/Hide button for all the pages you view on Wikipedia? Or do you want to reposition the Show/Hide button for anyone who views a particular Wikipedia page? The former might be possible by editing your own monobook.js file, the latter could be a bit trickier, perhaps even impossible. --PeruvianLlama(spit) 22:32, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
{{Hidden}} uses the sitewide "NavFrame" class in MediaWiki:Monobook.css. To hide a table of contents you can use __NOTOC__.--Commander Keane 22:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Starting new account

How do you start a new account when you already have one. Because changing my user name on the same account is much too complicated. Cory pratt 2:28 5 February 2006 (UTC)

How about log out and create account? You know that you can rename an account as well. Dr Debug (Talk) 19:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
Just create a new one, just the same as you created the old one.--Alhutch 22:34, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## WOMEN'S UNIFORMS IN WWII

I AM LOOKING FOR PICTURES THE DIFFERANT UNIFORMS WORN BY WOMAN IN THE MILATARY DURING WWII. I NEED DETAILS ON THE PATCHES THAT WERE WORN ALSO? I FOUND THIS WEB PAGE GUST LOOKING FOR INFORMATION. HOPE YOU CAN HELP LYNN

This type of question belongs on the reference desk. The help desk (this page) is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please follow the link to the reference desk, select the relevant topic, and post your question there. Thanks. --Kwekubo 20:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Please don't talk in ALL CAPITALS, because that is according scientific study harder and more difficult to read and ... it gives the impression that you are SHOUTING. Dr Debug (Talk) 22:39, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Etymologies: Wiktionary or Wikipedia?

Do detailed etymologies of words or phrases belong here at Wikipedia, or over at Wiktionary? Etymologies are usually found in a dictionary rather than an encyclopedia, but then again there are articles like Abracadabra and Mannaz, so I'm not sure. —Keenan Pepper 20:18, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I think it depends more on the level of detail. Wiktionary is for dictionary definitions and etymologies can be very extensive and the examples mentioned above are genuine articles and even transcend a mere etymology, since Mannaz is the rune for M and Abracadabra is a magic word with references in literature. The entry for Abracadabra at Wiktionary [1] is quite different in style as well. Dr Debug (Talk) 21:27, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
So, for example, if I wanted to write an extended etymology of the word apricot (which has an interesting history), should I write it here or at Wiktionary? —Keenan Pepper 22:59, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
If it is an interesting and extensive etymology then I see no reason not to include it in the Apricot page. Dr Debug (Talk) 23:05, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## How to search ?

Search about information for editing wikipedia, the helpdesk etc. Like i want to know how can i add redirects. like godparticle redirecting to "god particle". Or largest particle accelertor to LHC(which is the same thing btw) Is there some kind of "search all help" area? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.56.233.131 (talkcontribs)

There is a search box in the topleft of your screen. If you type redirect and "Go", you'll end up at the redirect page with a top link to Wikipedia:Redirect. If you want to search for a phrase then you can select "Search". To answer the redirect question, you can create a redirect by typing #REDIRECT [[DestinationArticle]]
P.S. You can sign your question with ~~~~. Dr Debug (Talk) 21:38, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
• If you decide to make redirects, please do make sure you typed the title of the page correctly in this case you misspelled largest particle accelerator (note the 'a' in accelerator). - 131.211.210.10 08:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

## Template creation

How do you create, or put forward a request for a box template like this one?

I would like to sum up a lot of topics in fusion power (which I have been working on) into something neat and tidy, rather than what I have created so far, this:

 JET (European) JT-60 (Japanese) DIII-D (USA) PPPL (USA) T-15 (Russian) MAST (UK) START (UK) DEMO (International) Nuclear fusion Nuclear reactor Plasma physics Cold fusion Magnetic fusion energy Inertial confinement fusion Timeline of nuclear fusion Fusion power for a discussion of the advantages, disadvantages and byproducts of fusion energy production

This is fairly informative, but looks cluttered and unsightly. I need advice. - mastodon 23:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Is this something like what you want? If you need anything changing then just ask.--Cherry blossom tree 00:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Fusion power
JET (European) | JT-60 (Japanese) | DIII-D (USA) | PPPL (USA) | T-15 (Russian) | MAST (UK) | START (UK) | DEMO (International)

# February 6

I've just took Image:CDMS_parameter_space_2004.jpg and drew a better version (vector-traced by hand) in PNG format Image:CDMS_parameter_space_2004.png. The original image was fair use. Are there any constraints on the license of the new image or I can release it as PD? Also, how copyrights work on graphical plots anyway? Can you even copyright scientific data? ☢ Ҡieff 03:08, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I take a book and copy it in my own handwriting. Is it a copyright violation? Yes, it is. Does that answer your question? I'm afraid that redrawing a copyrighted item doesn't make it public domain unless I'm mistaken. Dr Debug (Talk) 03:14, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this applies. This is a plot of scientific data, not a creative work like a book. The only element I can imagine being copyrighted here are output file itself and the colors and etc used, not what it represents. I remember reading something about plots, physical and mathematical stuff not being possible to copyright, that's why I'm asking, to be sure. In any case we just forget it and let the fair use one *sigh*. ☢ Ҡieff 03:38, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
You know, I really need help here. The image will be deleted in 6 days otherwise, because I'm not fair-using the PNG. ☢ Ҡieff 23:58, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

## Writing msg's to IP's?

Hello

I hope this is the right place to ask this.
I'm wondering, if I write a message to someone that doesn't have an account, like a user only identified by his IP-address, will it show the user that he has a new message, the next time he uses wikipedia? antabus 02:25, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

It depends on if the anonymous has a static or variable ip adress. If he has a static one, he will receive the message because his IP adress doesn't change. If he has a variable IP adress, like AOL users, he most likely won't recieve it because everytime that user gets a new ip adress. (anyone correct me if I'm wrong here) Garion96 (talk) 02:31, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
You are correct. However, if it is a dynamic IP, what will happen is that someone else will receive the message, and most of the time, it causes utter confusion. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 03:23, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Of course, totally forgot about that. Garion96 (talk) 03:38, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you both for your answers. I'll go ahead and take the chance that it's a static IP, and put in a disclaimer, if someone get's confused over it.

## References

I've been reading through pages about referencing but can't find the information I need. What happens if I have a website for a reference that is something like www.website.com, but I want to use subpages, like www.website.com/about.html, www.website.com/info.html, etc. Should I list about.html, info.html, etc. in the references section, or should I only list www.website.com in the references section? Is it sufficient to list inline references, in the form of the URL enclosed in square brackets? This is what I usually do. Q0 04:09, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I should make my question more clear:

• Suppose an article has content that uses both website.com/page1.html and website.com/page2.html as sources.
• Should I reference the content by putting website.com/page1.html in square brackets by the content that uses that URL as a source, or should I use ref tags?
• In the references section, should I list both website.com/page1.html and website.com/page2.html or should I only list website.com in the references section?

Q0 05:38, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

• How you reference them (with tags or after the statement in question is up to you, but I would certainly be as specific as you can about the subpages used. Imagine someone being asked to cite their source and them saying en.wikipedia.org That wouldn't be all that helpful would it. Personally, I would leave a link behind the specific statement. to make sure the reference is stuck to the right statement. IIRC adding another reference between 2 existing ones, could throw off the tag system, so it pays not to use those too early on. -- 131.211.210.10 08:42, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering if it is possible to make an internal link as an image. For example, I want what would intuitivly happen with this to actually work, but I'm sure it must be done another way.

[[Wikipedia:Help Desk|[[Image:Arwi_characters.jpg]]]]


OR, alternatively...if there is a way to remove the Arrow from this that would work to

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk [[Image:Arwi_characters.jpg]]]



OR, if it's possible for it to work via HTML

This way
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk">[[Image:Arwi_characters.jpg]]</a>
gets this
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk"></a>

OR this way
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk"><img src="wiki.jpg"></a>
gets this
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk"><img src="wiki.jpg"></a>


So if someone could give me one way of this working that'd be awesome. Thanks so much. Chris M. 04:59, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

You can't do it because it'd bypassing the image description page link that every single image links to. (Note that your second try doesn't like to the help desk like you wanted to, but to the image description page). Why would you need this for, anyway? ☢ Ҡieff 05:04, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Wondering if it is possible to be done because there are some articles that I thought might be useful with it, or my userpage. I know that it's bypassing the image description page, that was the point. Is it therefore not possible? Chris M. 05:08, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
There is {{Click}} which can do that function, but it doesn't function properly on all browser. The instructions can be found on Template talk:Click. Dr Debug (Talk) 05:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Nice, thanks :) Chris M. 05:31, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Check the page "anti". I don't know what it is, but it doesn't belong in wikipedia.

It was vandalized. I've reverted back to the good version. Thanks for the tip. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 07:35, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

## Help Please Urgent Attention Neccesary Bremner wafer

The Company of Bremner wafer wishes to review the article for Bremner wafer before it goes to press. I would be much more confortable if an administrator were to edit the page. In addition, all images containing the Bremner wafers, the logo ,and the tins are available (meaning the company allows use of the images). Please Help! Thank you to anyone who helps. Ram32110 04:16, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean by going to press? All changes take effect immediately. You may request a peer review if you would like.Flying Canuck 06:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Certainly is interesting, however, if they do allow such images. Can somebody follow up on that? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 09:53, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

## Created pages

Is there any tool that can show me a list (or at least the number) of pages I've created? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 09:51, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Go to Special:Contributions while you are logged in. You might also be interested in Kate's edit counting tool. There are a number of spinoffs of the later which provide other information, e.g. interiot's tool. —WAvegetarianCONTRIBUTIONSTALK EMAIL•03:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I just realized that you asked about pages you created. You can look through your contributions for a N mark, denoting a new page. —WAvegetarianCONTRIBUTIONSTALK EMAIL•03:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm looking for something more specific than that, if possible. I've created quite a few pages, and for some reason, my contribution history doesn't always show pages I've created with a N next to them. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 04:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Apparently this is harder than it seems; see bugzilla:4150. — Catherine\talk 03:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

## New page indexing

How long does it normally take for a new page to be picked up by the Wikipedia search facility?

## How Do I Make Columns On Wikipedia

How do I make columns on wikipedia?

• Try putting the text in an invisible table with two columns. See Help:Tables. - Mgm|(talk) 23:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
You will need to look in the edit window to see the solutions:
OR
 Liverpool Arsenal MU Chelsea
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Commander Keane (talkcontribs)

## 'Remember me' no longer works

Every time I close my browser, I get logged out of Wikipedia, and have to log in again, even though I turn on 'Remember me' every single time. I've already tried emptying the cache and using both Firefox and Opera, no joy. Anyone know of any other reasons why this could be happening? Thanks. --Malthusian (talk) 23:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

In fact, it seems to be logging me in and out at random. I was adding a warning to an anon's page just now, and when I clicked preview I was logged out and my IP address appeared as my signature... but when I clicked 'Preview' again I was logged in and my signature appeared as normal. And now I've come back to the help desk I'm logged out again. I can't imagine how this could be anything to do with the cache, I'd never been to that anon's talk page before. --212.225.62.108 23:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I've had the same thing today, along with a lot of other problems. Bubba73 (talk), 23:51, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
The same goes for me, too. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 02:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I figured it was related to the server crash earlier. Are logins still doing this? ᓛᖁ 03:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
This was related to the server crash. Thanks to the great work of our dev staff, particularly User:Brion VIBBER, everything is better now. —WAvegetarianCONTRIBUTIONSTALK EMAIL•03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## blank lines between bulleted lists

I usually put blank lines between bulleted lists (consecutive lines starting with "*"), but most editors take them out. On my screen, they make no visible difference but they make it a lot easier for editors working with the text. Is there a policy on this? Bubba73 (talk), 00:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion the blank lines make it harder to use and read (takes up more space). Most of the tutorials show it without spaces (and I don't think anyone has suggested doing it your way), so I think no spaces is the defacto style. BrokenSegue 01:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Adding a blank line closes a list, so the way you're currently doing will create, instead of a single list with 5 items, 5 lists with one item each. You can prove this using the ordered list:
Without blank lines
1. Item 1
2. Item 2
3. Item 3
With blank lines
1. Item 1
1. Item 2
1. Item 3

See that the numeration doesn't work? So yes, keep them without the space, please. ☢ Ҡiff 02:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I know it doesn't worked with numbered lines (starting with #) but I was thinking of lines starting with an "*". On my screen, this:
• line 1
• line 2
• line 3

looks almost exactly the same as:

• line 1
• line 2
• line 3

(I had to get out a ruler to tell that there was any difference.)

and if the text after the "*" runs more than one line, it is much easier for the editor to see the individual items. I also prefer to use a space before lines starting with ":", "::", etc, to make it easier for someone editing the text to see. Bubba73 (talk), 03:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

PLease add them without spaces. There is extra white-space between them (I notice it without a ruler) and I think it is harder to edit. BrokenSegue 21:38, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Go to checkmate and go down to "Quick checkmates in the opening" and edit that, and look what a mess it is without any blank lines seperating the items. Bubba73 (talk), 01:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

# February 14

## How to delete an uploaded image

I uploaded an image file to go wth an article I was writing, then later uploaded it again under a better name. How can I delete the first upload?

John F 00:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

append {{db|creator's request}} to the end of the picture's description page and an admin will come through and delete it for you. BrokenSegue 00:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## Articles in Category:NPOV disputes that don't have the template in them

1980 Winter Olympics medal count and 1920 Summer Olympics medal count are two articles that are in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:NPOV_disputes but when I go to the article themselves there's no NPOV tag and took a quick look in the history and couldn't see where they were. Am I getting some bad cached info from something? On another subject, is there a way to make a wikilink to a category without actually putting an article IN that category? Aaronw 00:59, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there is a way: category:NPOV disputes ([[:category:NPOV disputes]]). It also works on images, templates, etc.
WAvegetarianCONTRIBUTIONSTALK EMAIL•01:15, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## User Pages and Userboxes

In my user page, my boxes automatically shift into a collumn on the left. How can I space them out? I'd prefer larger, more horizontal boxes. --Scorpios 00:58, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Edit this and look at it:
Whoops, that won't do what you want (I misunderstood). Bubba73 (talk), 01:25, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Take a look at User:Nightstallion/userboxes. —WAvegetarianCONTRIBUTIONSTALK EMAIL•01:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## Where is the "new articles" link?

How do I get to the page that shows new article contributions for the day? --Sadi Carnot 01:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I think you want Special:Newpages. It is found under the Special pages link in the toolbox. This will be on the left hand side of your screen using the default skin. —WAvegetarianCONTRIBUTIONSTALK EMAIL•01:56, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## Experts vs. Non-Experts

So I know that Wikipedia is frequently criticized for having inaccurate information; one of the most frequent specific criticisms involves Wikipedia's inherent "anyone can edit" nature. Not just because people can anonymously fabriacate information, but because there are those people who have only superficial knowledge of a topic and then author an encyclopedia article that may be inaccurate or incomplete (but appear to be correct to most readers). Personally, I didn't think this was much of an issue, as I assumed that if a "real" expert came along, they would fix whatever problems existed in those articles. But now, I am involved in a situation that casts doubt on my assumption. I am not an expert on many things, but I am less than a year away from a Ph.D. in Social Psychology. My graduate training involved dozens of graduate classes in social psychology, research methodology and statistics. I teach several undergraduate courses on these topics at a university. But when I discover inaccuracies in an article that is on the specific field of my doctoral training, my edits and comments are met with resistance--not by other experts, but by a single Wikipedia editor who, despite having no real training (perhaps a single undergraduate course) in my field, purports to know better than I. This editor is smart, well-read, a prolific Wikipedian and knows just enough to be dangerous, but a social psychologist he is not (his bio says he is currently an undergraduate philosophy major). Other individuals have attempted to make edits to the page, only to have them reverted by this editor. How do I assert my expertise? Can I assert it? I feel like this is the exact situation that turns many people off of Wikipedia. -Nick 01:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Assert your expertise by backing up everything you say with references. Good references cannot be argued with. 01:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
There are some that repeatedly delete good/excellent references that contradict their POV. Bubba73 (talk), 02:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Tell me about it. The references I cite are often countered with references from outside the main academic field that only semi-address the specific topic. -Nick 02:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I think I've had material published by the Smithsonian Institution deleted in favor of stuff froma blog. Bubba73 (talk), 02:32, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I think the dispute resolution process may be what you're looking for. First step is to try and work it out with the editor, if he's intractable then you can begin to request the involvement of the wider community to seek a consensus.
What you can't do is 'assert your expertise'; this is the Internet, and claiming to be a social psychiatrist (whatever that does) carries no weight. Your references do carry weight, make sure you know them and can explain to a relative layman why they are authoritive (when I say layman, I mean a fairly intelligent and well-read layman who can tell the difference between a good source and a bad one). --Malthusian (talk) 09:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

If your source is more authoritative than theirs it should be more significant in an article. If they disagree with your decision on what authoritative, refer them to Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research for an objective way of analyzing the authoritativeness of a given source.--Urthogie 19:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I would like very much to be able to add either to an article about Environmental Holidays (although I don't believe there is one just yet) or the article on Raccoons a note about International Raccoon Appreciation Day. While there is little to no published writing on the holiday, it is celebrated Oct. 1st of every year in at least four countries.

I realise it's hard to keep out the bogus junk, but I still would like to put up SOMETHING.

BSL The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.188.195.105 (talk • contribs) .

So do it. As long as the submissions are well cited and relevant, there shouldn't be any reason why your edits shouldn't stay. You may want to check out Help:Starting a new article for more info. Dismas|(talk) 04:41, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## Have it so that when you go to the main page and start typing its already on the search bar

The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.149.119.206 (talk • contribs) .

• This would be a feature of your browser, not of Wikipedia. JIP | Talk 11:16, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
• You could do this by writing a greasemonkey script if you're using firefox. Another way is to modify your User:68.149.119.206/monobook.js file. I've modified mine to do this and it works with Firefox 1.5 and IE 7 beta 2. You could do it by adding the text below to your monobook.js, but note that you are trusting me to not put anything nasty in search-focus.js (I haven't!). Take a look at mine for reference.
// Set focus to search input
document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="'
+ 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:ApolloCreed/search-focus.js'
+ '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');


ApolloCreed 19:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

There is strong opposition to implenting this; if you are interested in this I would suggest you follow the above advice for local modification. — Knowledge Seeker 07:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

## Placing images from Wikipedias in other languages

It is very easy to put up an image from English Wikipedia: image:file.jpg.

How can I take an image from Wikipedia in another language and place it on an English-language Wikipedia page on the same topic? Is it possible. The image I would like is at Vietnamese Wikipedia. Bathrobe 07:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

The best way is to use commons:Main Page for shared pictures. You can of course save it from one wiki and upload it in another, but commons is meant for shared media and you can simply use the filename and if it is not on the local wiki, it'll be shown from commons. Dr Debug (Talk) 07:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
• The commons has a stricter acceptance policy. Fair use images are not allowed there. If your image is not free, you'll have to reupload it on the wiki you want to use it on. - Mgm|(talk) 10:55, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## missing text in wikipedia articles

Often when i am browsing wikipedia articles there is text randomly missing from the articles. Sentences end midway and there is a blank before the article abruptly resumes. This seems to happen at least once in a majority of articles i look at. As an example, the last article i viewed was "baron" and half a sentence is apparently missing in the first paragraph.

Is this a problem with my computer or internet explorer, or a problem with wikipedia, or a problem with the article content or what? can it be fixed?

This may be a problem with your browser. I was unable to find the problem you allude to in baron. The first paragraph is

Baron is a specific title of nobility or a more generic feudal qualification. The word baron comes from French baron, itself from Frankish baro meaning "freeman, warrior"; it merged with cognate Old English beorn meaning "nobleman." Ultimately it seems to mean a burden bearer.

Walter Siegmund (talk) 11:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## How does an article get in the index?

Hi,

I recently wrote a small article. I can get to it via other pages which link to it, but cannot find it through the search function. Is this a time thing, i.e. index updated perioidically (how often?) or should I do something to make it appear in the index?

Thanks, John

• It's hard to say. Developers have to do it manually and since it strains the servers to check all articles, they usually do it at low-traffic moments. Apart from that, I really don't have a set time to give you. - Mgm|(talk) 17:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok, that's fine. I just wanted to make sure I had not missed something I should do. John F 10:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

How can I print a balance, or spreadsheet?

• Hit the print button? I'm afraid you're going to have to be more specific to get a useful answer and in all likelyhood this question belongs on the reference desk too. - Mgm|(talk) 18:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## Flag Image Templates

Does anyone know of a set of templates similar to {{USA}} which include only the flag at the 20px size? I am planning on doing a lot of Olympic results, and I don't want to look up the name of the flag image for every one of them :o\ tiZom(2¢) 17:07, 14 February 2006 (UTC) (I've repeated this question at Talk:List of flags)

Can't you just copy those templates from last year's results, or from the results of some other sports article? - Mgm|(talk) 18:11, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm looking at trying to do a first-second-third place type thing where each position could be taken by any nation in the world. I could memorize every flag image name, but I'd really prefer not to :o) Also, I'm doing a lot of them, and it just takes too much time to type! tiZom(2¢) 19:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

• Well, if you're not going to remember the template names, you're still going to need to remember the image names of said flags to make a template like that work. I prefer copying such images from pages that already have them. No remembering required which is great for my sieve of a brain. - Mgm|(talk) 22:33, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Sure. Well, the template names could be formatted - like {{JPN-flag}} and {{SWE-flag}}. Kind of like the one I mentioned before. It's REAL easy to just type {{NOR}}, for example! tiZom(2¢) 23:08, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Wow. I *just* realized that they are already formatted the same way (e.g. Image:Flag of Germany.svg, Image:Flag of Mexico. Sorry! I guess it would still be easier, as I'm using templates where the 3-letter code is already an argument, to have the template call up the flag with a template similar to the {{NOR}} example above. But then again, that would be using meta-templates. Ah, well. tiZom(2¢) 23:16, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## Sonny Mercan

Hello can anyone help me and give me an idea of what I'm doing here? I'm trying to put a page for Muhammed Sonny Mercan but whenever I try to do so it doesn't get registered. It's quite a few days now that I'm trying to get that page up on Wikipedia but all invain. The page is supposed to be Muhammed Sonny Mercan an environmentalist person of Turkic ancestry, the indigenous people. So can anyone please tell me what to do? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonny Mercan (talk • contribs) .

• Your page appears to be working. Take a look here. BTW, if you are writing an article about yourself, that is typically discouraged. - ApolloCreed 19:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

## OPEC

Hello,

I just have a question which was assigned to me by my teacher. Why was Vienna,Austria the headquarters of OPEC although it was nota member of OPEC?

I need an urgent reply... THANKS~

You won't have much luck there, either. One of the policies is not to expect them to do your homework for you.--Max Talk (add)Contribs 04:47, 15 February 2006 (UTC)