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July 7[edit]

Swan Gi(Jimmy Reci sokokulo),Real name; is a South Sudanese Hip Hop,Rap,Pop Star.Jimmy Reci is one of the sons of Fr.william Sokokulo,Jimmy Reci was born in Wau-South Sudan in the year 1992/Feb.08 Swan Gi;"I'm seriuosely working on my musical career,started with Make love in jan 2011 it is played on local radios and also via Youtube andreverbnation among others.

July 8[edit]

Deleting User Pages[edit]

Can we delete user pages or only articles? I'm asking because I found one (User:Taj international) that seems to just be an advert for a head shop. Smart194 18:53, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

This is discussed at Wikipedia:Deletion policy. The first line of action is to discuss the problem with the user as they may be willing to correct any problems once you explain your view point. If after discussing the situation the problem isn't resolved, you can list the page at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. Road Wizard 19:37, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

How to suggest articles to merge[edit]

I was wondering how to merge articles. I was just surfing through and noticed that there are pages for Conte Forum and Kelley Rink. The problem being, it's the same building. Not only that, but it looks like the text is an exact copy in both articles. So how do I tag these pages for the "suggest a merger" line? ToddC4176

Please consult WP:MM for more information. --WinHunter (talk) 01:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
They actually are separate, and different, articles. Kelley Rink is a redirect to Conte Forum, so any time you load the page Kelley Rink you automaticly go to Conte Forum. To see the real content of Kelley Rink go here. The way you would suggest articles to be merged is adding {{mergeto|article to merge to}} or {{mergefrom|article to merge from}} to the top of the articles, or just merge them yourself. You should generally bring the merge up on the talk page before you merge the pages however. In the instance of Conte Forum and Kelley Rink there is no need for any action. Prodego talk 01:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

WHats up dog

tennis player top 200 ranking by year[edit]

I WANT TO SEE THE TOP 200 TENNIS PLAYERS RANKED BY YEAR FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS

  • Please feel free to create this article. — Reinyday, 05:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Your capitals come over as SHOUTING (and a Please would have been nice!) - Adrian Pingstone 18:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Are Wikipedia usage explanations bundled anywhere?[edit]

I would like to read the main Wikipedia site info offline. I do not have internet at home right now, and there are more pages of Editing instructions and FAQs and so on than I have time to go through at any one time on-line.

Can these main pages be bundled (e.g. zipped) and placed somewhere easy for users in my predicament to trip over and download? (If such exists already, sorry I haven't tripped over it yet--maybe because I haven't much time online?) Thanks. 70.173.184.136 01:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

There are static versions of Wikipedia. For article content only (images, templates, and articles as of June 19 2006) you can download this. Note however this file is extremely large, 1.4 gigabites compressed. Also, the history is not included, so if an article happened to be vandalized when dumped, you are out of luck. You can download it with history, but that is an understandably huge file, so I would not recommend doing that. Prodego talk 01:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Wait, do you want the Help and Wikipedia namespaces, not the articles? I can't quite tell from your question. Prodego talk 01:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, (s)he would like to read the help files ("Editing instructions and FAQs") offline. I don't know if they are available for download, but it's a great idea. — Reinyday, 05:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I should have emphasized that it is the Help pages I am particularly interested in, those About wikipedia, including all the pages on wiki LaTeX and reporting vandalism and so on. Having those would make my time online with wiki more efficient. Thanks, though, for the note on the more complete compressed archive (is that link also noted in one of what would be called the Help pages?).--70.173.184.136 21:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The information about this is at Wikipedia:Database download. However I do not believe there is a downloadable version of the Help pages. You could manually save them, and read them like that, I suppose. Prodego talk 22:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Copyright issue on website photo[edit]

Hi, I've been helping a newbie contribute to the page Ioka, there is a transcript of the discussion on the talk page. I think that he/she is genuine in their attempts to improve the article that they have made. They have uploaded a photo [1] to illustrate the article, which they have taken from the website of the subject of the article (a nightclub) but have not asked permission. It is my understanding that we generally assume that photos from websites are covered by copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise - the user has put the uncertain copyright tag onto the photo as a stopgap. Please could somebody have a look at the discussion and make sure that I have been passing on corrct information? I also don't know how to tag the photo in its current condition (this is the first time that I have had to deal with a photo copyright and i would appreciate some help/links the help me better deal with these problems in future. Many thanx Mammal4 09:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Left note on user's talk and one on the license section of the image in question. - Mgm|(talk) 12:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Newb with one more question[edit]

Thanks for the reply above, MGM. I honestly looked and could not find how to reply to one of these discussion sections so it comes out all nice and nested and such. After you hit the edit button what do you do? (I did find out about the four tilda thing while looking for it though) BigDon 12:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Just click the edit link of the section you want to edit (it's at the top of the section) and tag your comment to the end. To make them bulletted or indented, use * or : respectively. - Mgm|(talk) 12:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Adding fansite[edit]

Hello,

I want to add my website to The Sims 2 page, fansites part. When i add, its become deleted later. How can i add my www.simaniac.com website to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sims_2

Gurkan Ezerce www.simaniac.com

Thanks.

Adding your own sites to wikipedia is generally considered WP:Spam. The best way to gain acceptance for your site is to go to the discussion page for the relevant topic and propose it there. If accepted as having useful content, the site will be added by other editors -- Lost 12:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Mysterious category appearance[edit]

Hi. I've been working on cleaning up Category:Geography. It has several articles related to Ontario that should be only in subcategories, not the main category. But when I open the articles to edit, I can't see any "Category:Geography" to delete. I considered asking about this at a category page, but there seems to be more traffic here. Maurreen 17:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I took a look at the Clarington, Ontario page and spotted the category had been added during this edit. It appears to be a side effect of using the {{Location grid}} template, which was created by Raccoon Fox. You might want to check with that editor as to why they have included the category in the template. It is possible they just forgot to use the <noinclude> and </noinclude> tags. Road Wizard 17:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. Maurreen 17:48, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

mrs stone

Tim Hayes[edit]

Listened this AM and would like to know what times he is on!!! Thanks,

This desk focuses mostly on answering questions about Wikipedia. You'll probably have more luck if you repost this question over on the Reference Desk. You may also want to specify what country you're in, and what station you were listening to (if you can remember.) GeeJo (t)(c) • 15:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Made a slight adjustment in your answer. - Mgm|(talk) 17:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Rotating barnstar[edit]

How did Trainspotter get that barnstar to spin? GangstaEB 15:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Could you specify which barnstar you are referring to? Thanks. Road Wizard 17:43, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Probably the tireless contributor's barnstar. It's a gif animation. - Mgm|(talk) 17:51, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Wiki-linking dates[edit]

What is current policy/consensus on linking dates that are mentioned in an article? Suppose I am creating a new biographical article with birth and death dates: "John Smith (January 22, 1900 - December 10, 1980)". Should I create a link for "1900" and "1980? How about for "January 22" and "December 10". The argument I can think of in favor of these links is that everything is connected to everything else and that one should be able to hop all over the place easily, especially to the year, which is probably a more substantive link to the article-content that the month/day date. The argument against these links would be that they aren't likely to bring a reader to anything relevant to the subject of the article and unnecessary links can be distracting. I've seen similar articles created both with and without this type of links. To this point I have been including all the links but I will creating some new bios in the next few days and want to get it right. What is the present community thinking on this? Newyorkbrad 17:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you should. Jacek Kendysz 17:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Read more: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates of birth and death


Loose years should rarely be wikified (unless the year is particularly relevant). Full dates should be wikified by wikifying the date and the year separately. This allows the preferences with regard to the date's format for users to kick in. So you should do this: "John Smith (January 22, 1900 - December 10, 1980)." - Mgm|(talk) 17:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, that's consistent with how I've been handling, your quick confirmations appreciated.

British IDBD equivalent.[edit]

Occasionally, I've tried finding information on British theatre actors, but neither IMDB nor IBDB is really helpful in that regard. Can anyone recommend a source that is the British equivalent of IBDB? - Mgm|(talk) 17:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

You might get a better answer at the reference desk, but two places that you could try are the British Actors & Actresses Webring and Theatre, Musicals & Actors (UK webpage). Road Wizard 19:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I figured it was a referencing question... Anyway, I'll give those a try. Thanks. - Mgm|(talk) 19:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Hmmm, not exactly the big database I was hoping for. Any other ideas? - Mgm|(talk) 20:10, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I am not aware of any big database sites. However, someone at Wikipedia:WikiProject Theatre may be able to help. Road Wizard 22:34, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Good idea. I've dropped them a note. - Mgm|(talk) 23:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Images and line spacing[edit]

Can anyone give me any tips on how I can prevent the increased spacing between lines when I include inline images? Please look at the introduction on my user talk page if you want an example. I know about HTML and simple CSS. Andrew (My talk · World Cup) 21:32, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Never mind ... I've done a workaround. Andrew (My talk · World Cup) 22:50, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

How can I end an edit war I'm not "fighting" in?[edit]

I’ve been witnessing an edit war in Firebender, and I’m not sure what to do at this point. Specifically, the war is over in what episode the first use of “Blue Fire” in Avatar: The Last Airbender took place. Parties keep changing the episode given. At first, I asked on the talk page that the war stop and a source of information on the subject be consulted. This was ignored, so I suggested dispute resolution, which one side ignored and the other declared he would not peruse. I then added the Disputed Assertion template, which was subsequently removed by one of the parties.

Since the parties will not engage in resolution at all, I’m at a loss as to what action to take to end the war. I’ve considered asking for page protection, but seems like such a large step that I’d like to know if there is anything else I can do.--Fyre2387 23:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Taking a quick look at the article history, there has been at least one breach of the 3 revert rule by 24.205.79.223 (talk · contribs) (over 2nd and 3rd July) and the other editors are definitely walking on the edge of a breach if they haven't yet broken it. As suggested on the 3RR page you should take the breach by 24.205.79.223 to the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR page and at the same time ask the administrators to look at the other editors' history. Hopefully administrator intervention will make them see reason and agree a consensus. Road Wizard 23:55, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
A small correction, the editor switched to 24.205.142.210 (talk · contribs) before carrying out the 4th edit. Road Wizard 23:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not an official help-desker or anything, and I don't know if other users are supposed to post comments here, so someone delete this if it doesn't belong. But without superseding any "quasi-official" advice, if you are knowledgeable about the subject of the dispute, it seems to me the thing to do is to post the correct answer with a specific citation to an authoritative reference work on Firebender, if there is one. Newyorkbrad 00:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Welcome to the help desk team! We don't have any rules about who can post an answer, so your comment is welcome. If you feel you can help someone else, just post away. :) Road Wizard 00:22, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

July 9[edit]

forgot password[edit]

Iforgot my password, and the e-mail address that I originally used is no longer active. Is the e any way to change my registered e-mail address? My username is MikeF

Thank-you

You will need to create a new account. --Hetar 00:44, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Main Page Toolbox[edit]

What is the purpose of the "Permanent Link" selection in the main page toolbox. It apparently does nothing when I click on it.--70.175.29.112 00:25, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Ron

When you click on this link you should notice that the URL in your browser changes. The Permanent Link feature is normally used for people who are using Wikipedia for research purposes, and want to cite a specific version of an article. That way, when people reading their papers come along and follow their references, they will get the exact same version of the article that the original researcher referenced. --Hetar 00:42, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

How to make narrow columns in tables?[edit]

I'm not sure if Village Pump: Technical would be a better place to ask, but here goes...

I'm trying to make a table with narrow columns, on the order of 30-60 pixels wide. There seems to be a minimum width of around 100px. I've tried the tricks I can think of, like setting a width for the whole table, using width="*" or width="auto" on the columns I want to narrow, removing the width specs entirely for those columns. No way could I get below about 100px.

I've checked the help pages, especially Help:table, and looked at the FAQs. No answers there. I guess it's time to escalate.

TIA. --Chris 04:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Like this?
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1 2 3 4 5 6 0 9 8 7 7 7

--Max Talk (add) 04:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

???[edit]

How do I view messages that I left other people on their talk pages? Rawisrob 04:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I would suggest visiting the respective talk pages. If you don't remember the users, you could try looking over your contributions (click on the link that says "my contributions" on the top right of the page. --Hetar 04:16, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
edit conflict:An easy way to do so would be to click "my contributions" at the top right of the page. Then click on the relevant contribution. You should reach there. Normally, if you are conversting with a user, its better to add him/her to your watchlist, so that you know if he/she answers on that page instead of yours -- Lost 04:18, 9 July 2006 (UTC)


EDIT: Thanks but I think I did that before with no luck.

I checked your contributions. You dont seem to have left any message to any user -- Lost 04:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
  • You probably did that when you weren't logged in. Try tracking down the IP address you used and visit the contributions of that IP. Or if you remember the name of one of the users, try if you can find your IP in their history. - Mgm|(talk) 09:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Corbis Stock Images and Wikipedia[edit]

I am a reasonably experience Wikipedian and recently I came across http://pro.corbis.com/ which i am sure you are all familiar with. It is a stock image resource so to speak. Does, and if not; why doesn't, Wikipedia have a subscription to this site and their stock images. If this was possible on a technical and legal basis then Corbis would surely be an indespensable resource for Wikipedia articles. I'm sure there are a number of reasons why there has not been a partnership between Wikipedia and Corbis but could someone, everyone, please message me back about this.

I posted this because I thought that maybe this has just gone as an unnoticed opportunity. :) --Alexbonaro 05:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

It would make absolutely no sense for us to pay for a subscription to Corbis while we have hundreds of users around the world who constantly provide us with "royalty free" (ie pd or no rights reserved) images on a regular basis. Some of these photographers are very good too (such as Fir0002 and Nilington). It's kind of part of the Wikipedia philosophy, we rely on volunteer contributors to create all of our material, pictures, articles, and even the software that our Wiki runs on. --Hetar 05:45, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I would add that all images on Wikipedia are licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License, or so I understand, and thus available for free reuse in compliance with that license. If Wikipedia licensed images from Corbis, that license would be for Wikipedia to use Corbis' copyrighted material, but since Wikipedia wouldn't own the license but simply be a licensee, it could not, in turn, grant free distribution to users, so I don't see how it could work. There have been discussion in the past of whether Corbis has the right to the copyright of some of the images it claims ownership over. You might find the following discussions interesting: here and here (go to the section titled "Use of pre-1923 "copyrighted" stock images" in the latter one; I couldn't link directly).--Fuhghettaboutit 05:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Funniest vandalised page wiki?[edit]

there was a wiki page on the funniest vandalised pages once, but I can't for the life of me find it. is it still around?

You might be thinking of WP:BJAODN. For some simillar stuff check out m:Category:Humor and Uncyclopedia. --Hetar 05:39, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

that was it, thanks.

How do I create a new page?[edit]

Thanks.

See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. You might also take a run through the Wikipedia:Tutorial which will answer many questions about editing on Wikipedia.--Fuhghettaboutit 06:18, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Moon craters.[edit]

Are all the craters on the moon ancient or is the moon still subject to recent bombardment? If so, do astronomers see such 'strikes' taking place and how frequently? Are new craters being formed and mapped?

Sabaco 07:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reference desk would be the right place to ask such questions. This helpdesk is for questions regarding wikipedia only -- Lost 07:35, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

translation and communication[edit]

I've been around a while but am still a little confused about talk pages. I've made some posts and had no replies and was wondering how to get attention. I want to request a translation from another language article similar to one I've created in wiki to put into english (eg. http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vic_Lockman), and want to know if I'm on the right track with List of web development companies - I think it's been deleted before and am unsure of the article worthyness. I've put comments on discussion and talk pages but dont seem to be getting too much response. Is there some kind of help or respond tag that I can write to get attention? Peter 10:08, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the list, I just went through it and its a rather indiscriminate collection of websites. If such a list were to be made comprehensive, it would consist of more than thousands of entries from all over the world. Thats the reason, it keeps getting deleted. It would be better to create a category and add the category to companies that are notable enough to merit an article on wikipedia. In my opinion, this list is likely to get WP:PRODDED again, unless you can give a good argument on why it should be considered encyclopedic. Also see here for more info -- Lost 10:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
... and, directly answering your question, if you put {{helpme}}, followed by a question, on your talk page someone will likely drop by and respond. -- Rick Block (talk) 15:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, you can request Translations Into English via WP:TIE. --Mathew5000 07:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Schools[edit]

Is there a notability guideline similar to WP:BIO for middle schools, high schools, etc? If so, I can't find it. --Brian G 12:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, read WP:SCHOOL. Jacek Kendysz 12:34, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Question about article disambiguation[edit]

Articles about things named "uniq" are getting hard to manage. Currently we have uniq about the Unix command, UNIQ about the nightclub in Helsinki, and UniQ about the New Zealand LGBT students' association. We also have ugli fruit about the uniq fruit. How should these be organised? JIP | Talk 16:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

  • The dab notices on the articles work for me. They really are "unique" and the people that don't capitalize properly are easily redirected to the proper article. I would keep things as is unless more articles with the name drop in. - Mgm|(talk) 16:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... it does seem appropriate for a disambiguation page, though. Disambiguation pages cover all capitalizations, so it would work out fine. I don't mind making it, unless there is some disagreement. The disambiguation links do work, but they should really only link to one article. -- Natalya 17:26, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't disagree, as long as it is just one disambiguation at Uniq (disambiguation). - Mgm|(talk) 18:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Done! I've fixed all the respective links. -- Natalya 00:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Page History[edit]

If you are logged on and have set your time zone to a different zone than UTC/GMT, then will the times in history pages be displayed be in your time zone or in UTC/GMT? --Yanwen 18:22, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Its showing in the local time zone for me -- Lost 18:25, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Per Help:Preferences#Time zone, your time zone is used for the "last modified" time (shown on every page) as well as a variety of other contexts, including history pages. One place your time zone is not used is on pages where the time is created from your signature (using ~~~~), like this one. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:05, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Starting a new page[edit]

How do I start a new page? I would like to write a piece on a singer, Mat Tanner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tedbull2002 (talkcontribs) 22:36, 9 July 2006

You should read Help:Starting a new page. See also Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Jacek Kendysz 22:41, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

July 10[edit]

With whom should I discuss an important copyright question?[edit]

I have an important copyright question whose answer I have not encountered in any of the vast documentation that Wikipedia has on copyright issues. This question is rather important and general so, once it is answered, it should somehow be put into Wikipedia's copyright documentation.

With whom should I discuss this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vincent Ree (talkcontribs) 00:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, you can try here :-) --Sam Blanning(talk) 00:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

OK. I'll state the question hypothetically:

Suppose some material is copyrighted by an entity (person, company, nation, etc.) which no longer exists. More to the point, that entity cannot give nor deny permission to use their copyrighted material. In that case, it is not possible to solicit permission to use the copyrighted material. Does that material fall into the public domain? Can that material still be used in Wikipedia?

I realize sometimes copyright ownerships may be transferred - for instance, some artists work then becomes property of their estate. However, there may be other cases when either there is no transfer of copyright ownership or new copyright ownership is unknown.

Here's an example: Suppose you wish to use an image in an Wikipedia article and that the copyright for that image originally belonged to a magazine or newspaper that has ceased publication. In that case, it may not be possible (or, at least, it may be very difficult) to track down the new owner of the copyright (assuming one even exists!) to ask permission to use the image. Can that image be used in Wikipedia?

Unfortunately the answer is no, that image would be an example of orphaned works. See also here for a recent discussion on that. Garion96 (talk) 01:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned Pages[edit]

I trying to find the definition of Wikipedia "Orphaned Pages". I haven't had any luck in my search so far... so I thought I would ask here. Wouldn't it be simpler to add a brief explanation to the heading of the Orphaned Pages list..? Thanks in advance--Dogfish 01:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

"A page with no links from other pages." See also Wikipedia:Orphan. Garion96 (talk) 01:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

date of a ballgame between the clevelad indians and the st louis browns going about 19 inings in the early 1950s[edit]

what was the date of the ball game. e-mail removed --67.38.250.174 02:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Garion96 (talk) 02:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

List of copy-editors[edit]

Is there a list of people who volunteer as copy-editors?

I would like to contribute to Wikipedia, but I am not much good for adding content, however I have experience in proof-reading and editing and would like to help. I have been doing so randomly as I access pages but I was wondering if there is a list or some other feature where you can put your name down as a volunteer copy-editor for articles that really need help, or that are nominated for feature article, or part of a WikiProject etc. JenLouise 03:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The first thing which comes to mind is Category:Articles that need to be wikified which has a huge backlog. Although they are probably more projects needing copy editors. Garion96 (talk) 03:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Cleanup is another good place to start. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:15, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Or if you want to work on articles that are already a bit more polished, but that need just a little extra, try Wikipedia:Peer review. There's a need for a lot of good editors there. Titoxd(?!?) 07:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
You can also look at the lists on Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit - there are hundreds to choose from. Intensify 12:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

nomination for deletion snafu?[edit]

I am fairly new to Wikipedia, but today decided that I understand it well enough to nominate an article for deletion. I began to follow the process as described on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, but encountered a problem. When I went to edit the deletion discussion page, I found that it had already been created. The article had been previously nominated for deletion, and the result was DELETE. Apparently someone recreated the page, possibly with some new content, but the deletion discussion page still exists, with a note instructing me not to edit it. My question is, should I ignore the note and begin to edit the deletion discussion page as instructed in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, or leave it as is? The article in question is Michael Lorenzen. Rlitwin 04:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you are looking at an archived discussion. You would need to nominate an article for deletion on the article page itself, not on the talk page. Please let me know if you need more clarity -- Lost 04:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Update: The article in question was created in July 2005. Can you give a link for where it has already been decided to be deleted- Lost 04:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Mgm. I moved the prior discussion to a new location as you suggested and linked to it from the deletion discussion page, and created a new deletion discussion page based on the new nomination. Rlitwin 04:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
My preferred method is to use {{afdx|second}}, which uses {{afdx}} to create the nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wherever (second nomination). You can replace 'second' with 'third', 'fourth' etc. as needed. --Sam Blanning(talk) 09:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Advertisements or not?[edit]

Hi! Sorry...I'm not too knowledgeable on Wikipedia procedures, but I noticed that user Gigmasters has been essentially adding advertisement for itself and its founder to several articles this evening. I'm not sure how this should be handled, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks! WildCowboy 04:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a guideline about WP:SPAM. You may like to go through it -- Lost 04:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Images from IMDB[edit]

Hello. I was looking at the article for Hans Zimmer and I noticed that an image was requested. I look on the Internet Movie Database and there is a picture of him there. I was wondering if anyone knew if there are any copyrights on that. I wanted to use it for the article, but I don't want to break any rules. Thank you. --kralahome 05:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Unless stated otherwise, any picture has copyright. If it has no notice to inform you of that fact, it is still copyrighted. - 131.211.210.10 07:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Vacation for my parents[edit]

I am just wondering what ferry or bus I take from maine to get there. I want my parents to have a wonderful vacation. Please let me know if this is the wrong part of nova schochia. Sorry if spelled wrong. I live in New Bedford Ma.Please let me know. <contact info removed>

Sincerely Kendra

Sorry, this help desk is for questions pertaining to wikipedia only. Normally, other questions may be answered at WP:Reference desk. You may try there -- Lost 07:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Name conflict for image between wikipedia & commons[edit]

I want to use a file from the Commons named "Image:Arbelos.png" [2]. However, when I attempt it, I get instead a different image on Wikipedia with the same name, "Image:Arbelos.png" [3]. Obviously I could just copy the Commons image onto Wikipedia with a different name, or I could duplicate it on the Commons with a different name. But is there some more elegant solution? I have searched through various FAQs and tutorials but have not found an answer. Thanks!--Mathew5000 08:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

No, there is no way to access it if an indentically named file exists locally (which is one of the reasons uploaders are encouraged to use specific filenames). I'd recommend re-uploading it to Commons with a unique filename. — Knowledge Seeker 08:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I will. --Mathew5000 09:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Trace a user[edit]

Hi there,

Somebody has written a scandalous information (obviously wrong information) about my website.

I was wondering if there is a way to trace that user's id and IP address or other details.

Thanks a lot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tta013 (talkcontribs) 10:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

What's the name of the article? --Sam Blanning(talk) 11:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

i want to listen to the musiiiiiiic[edit]

hello, is it possible to listen to the music here and how shall i do it?

  • There's a list of uploaded music files to Wikipedia:Sound/list/playlist, but remember that Wikipedia's main aim is to write an encyclopedia. Recent music is copyrighted, so for any music created after 1923, we can only give you short clips. If you want classical music, though, that list should have some nice songs on it. - 131.211.210.10 12:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

naniko[edit]

does anybody see me? if so please answer my question abovee plzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Please be patient. Questions aren't answered immediately. A real person has to see it and be willing (and knowing enough) to answer. - 131.211.210.10 12:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Kalidas Roy[edit]

I have edited the page on Kalids Roy. This includes correction of the year of his death from 1960 to 1975. This article has been said to be a stub. In case it is felt that the additions made now are adequate, please remove the word stub -Biswa roop 13:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion Kalidas Roy should remain with stubs templates. Jacek Kendysz 13:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • The name stub has nothing to do with the quality of the information. Stubs are small articles which lack basic content. See WP:STUB. - Mgm|(talk) 17:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

pledgerism[edit]

how can I seek feedback on my content?--Mimilk 14:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

  • What kind of content would that be and what is pledgerism? You might mean plagiarism, but I'm not sure how that has anything to do with your question. - Mgm|(talk) 17:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

world[edit]

DEAR SIR OR MADAM: I am here by asking my question is that how many countries do make up awhole world? thanx 4 ure answer--81.199.17.19 14:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

It depends on how and who is doing the defining. Numbers vary between 189 -194 with 192 apparently being the number most commonly assigned by word almanacs. By the way, this page is for asking question about Wikipedia. For future knowldge question pleae consult the Reference desk.--Fuhghettaboutit 14:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Read List of countries. In the future, remember that knowledge questions should be asked on Reference Desk. Jacek Kendysz 14:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Rubbish with big size[edit]

There're lots of vandals submiting rubbish in new articles or in existing ones. Their actions are reverted or deleted, by they still remain in database, don't they? I assume so, because admins can undelete pages and browse deleted pages and they must be saved somewhere! It's really easy to paste several megabytes of rubbish and fill space of Wikimedia memory, so that servers work badly. How can we manage with that? Paweł ze Szczecina 14:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

It's certainly the case that all the rubbish is kept, and that the database gets bigger. But why do you believe that this makes the servers work badly? Notinasnaid 16:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I think that keeping it around, means we can track such vandals more easily. Imagine how hard it would be to investigate a vandal's history if those edits were not saved. - Mgm|(talk) 17:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm no technician, but if you tried to spam Wikipedia's servers with crap, I would have thought that your connection would give out before ours. --Sam Blanning(talk) 23:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

China[edit]

Management of organizations

There is no question here. Do you have a question? Note that this help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. If your question is a knowledge question, please consult the Reference Desk.--Fuhghettaboutit 14:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

CONSTRUCTION OF COW MILK[edit]

SIR/MADAM I'M TRYING TO FIND-OUT Re: " CONSTRUCTION OR CONTENTS OF COW MILK" ? PLEASE ADVISE ME : e MAIL:- (email removed to prevent spam) THANKS, FURY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.35.74.198 (talkcontribs) 15:26, 10 July 2006

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Jacek Kendysz 15:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Or just go read Milk? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Changing an entry[edit]

HI I work at Elephant and Castle and have seen that the entry (although very good) is somewhat out of date. How can we edit it, if at all please? Thanks

Farnaz

<email removed>

Hi and welcome to wikipedia. Just look for the edit button at the top of the page and start off. Though its not necessary to have a login id, you can do many more useful things if you have one. Please also see the welcome message on your ip's talk page -- Lost 16:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Metoprolol[edit]

I understand this drug given for high blood pressure works on the lower blood pressure number. I also take lisinopril for the upper blood pressure number. Is there any possibility that Metoprolol affects the lisinopril, e.g. causing the lisinopril to have a lesser affect on the upper number? Likewise, since I've been using metoprolol my cholesterol count has gone up. Could this in any way be caused by the metoprolol? For example, I also take lipitor for cholesterol control; could the metoprolol affect the lipitor? Lastly, I am diabetic, and since I've been using metoprolol it seems my blood sugars have been higher than usual. Any possibility metoprolol is affecting my blood sugars?--4.240.27.51 16:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost 16:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • That said, Wikipedia is not the best place to ask medical advice. It's best to ask your doctor who knows all there is to know about your health. - Mgm|(talk) 17:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Making Articles Come up with Searches[edit]

Hi,

I am a new user of Wikipedia and I recently submitted what I think is a worthwhile contribution to the database, partly as a test of how submitting articles works. I intend to expand the article and create others once I have a mastery of the system, but first Ihave encountereda few problems:

1.) I recently submitted an article entitled "Jerome Silbergeld," about one of the foremost scholars of Chinese painting in the U.S. While this article comes up under searches for "Jerome silbergeld," it does not come up under searches for "Silbergeld." Yet many other biographies do come up when one searches just for the last name of the individual...How can I make this article easier to find?

A second question:

2.) Writings by Jerome Silbergeld are referenced on several other pages, including on the page about Chinese artist Gong Xian. I tried to create links from these references to the Jerome SIlbergeld article, but wikipedia claims there is no article with that name...I think this is because on the Gong Xian page he is called "Silbergeld, Jerome"...how do I create a link so Wikipedia can direct people to the Silbergeld page if they are interested after looking at his work on Gong Xian?

Thanks for all your help.

Chironares 16:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

  • The search index the Wikipedia search system uses is not updated immediately, so it'll take some time for the article to show up in searches. If you want to link the name in the other article, try using piped links. I'm guessing the name is written as "Silbergeld, Jerome" because it is a requirement for the reference format used. Piped links mean you can show different text to show instead of the title of the article you're linking to. In your case that would be [[Jerome Silbergeld|Silbergeld, Jerome]]. Hope that helps. - Mgm|(talk) 17:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


The following was mistakenly placed at Making Articles Come Up On More Searches, which I have now deleted. I think it belongs hereGurch 18:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi MGM, thanks for your help on my questions earlier. You have fully clarified the issue of how to get other pages to link to articles with different titles by using piped links, and that is extremely helpful. However, I still am a little unclear on searching. My article is now visible on Wikipedia when I search for "Jerome Silbergeld." Therefore, it doesn't seem that the problem is that the databse hasn't been updated. When I search for "Silbergeld" on the other hand, the article does not come up, though several articles on Chinese painters that refer to him do come up. Moreover, when I type "wiki silbergeld" into google, or even "wiki jerome silbergeld," articles on Chinese painters that reference silbergeld come up, but my article about him does not...do you have advise on making this more accessible to searches, both internal searches on wikipedia, and external searches where people type “wiki” and a key word?
Thanks again
Chironares 17:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Answered at user's talk. - Mgm|(talk) 19:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

submitting information[edit]

Greetings --

I would like to submit to Wikipedia the biography of Mr. Charles N. Kahn III, President of the Federation of American Hospitals. Would you provide me with a link or URL to do so? Thanks.

-- ((Personal contact information removed by User:LtPowers))

Hi, if you want to start an article, all you need to do is get a user id by signing up. However, please be sure that it meets the criteria of Wikipedia:Notability (people) otherwise it will get deleted. -- Lost 18:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Getting Articles to appear in Searches[edit]

Hi, please see my question just above, along with the explanation of my position in the first paragraph of the posting "Making Articles Come up with Searches."

Also, could you please respond on my talk page, as I am still a little unsure how to navigate wikipedia...

Thank you MGM for your earlier help. You have fully clarified the issue of how to get other pages to link to articles with different titles by using piped links, and that is extremely helpful. However, if you or anyone else could clarfiy this issue of searching for me I would appreciate it.

thanksChironares 18:25, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Answered on his talk page. P.S. If you hit the edit link next to the section title for you previous question, you can tag your response to the end of it, so you can keep the discussion in one spot. - Mgm|(talk) 19:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Online status traffic light images[edit]

Some users have their online/offline status on their userpages shown as a traffic light image - there are three images, one shows red for offline (I think the accompanying text says 'IN'), one shows amber for busy, and one green for online ('OUT'). Unfortunately I can't remember any of these userpages to find the images. Does anyone know what their filenames are? Also, I know I've seen versions with the accompanying text ('IN', 'BUSY' (?), 'OUT'), but are there images of just the traffic lights, sans text, anywhere? --Sam Blanning(talk) 23:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

This page has the range of them, as well as information about using them.--Ali K 00:22, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I've also got a version at User:GeorgeMoney/StatusDiv, which has an LED type status indicator. GeorgeMoney (talk) 00:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Topaz made a very useful script to automatically change your status, see User:Topaz/Wikiscripts. It can add to either a box below your toolbox or your top bar (default). Check it out. Prodego talk 02:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks everyone. --Sam Blanning(talk) 10:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

disambiguation page[edit]

Hi, I was looking at the article Asian fetish and it seems that at three of the four disambiguation items (the cocktail, the band and the magazine) on there would satisfy WP:AFD criteria. However, the ones on there that satisfy the criteria are redlinked.

Should the disambig page be afd'd anyway? If three of the four articles are not valid the only one left should not be a disambiguation. --ColourBurst 04:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Redlinks do not belong on disambiguation pages. I would simply move Asian fetish (sexual) back to Asian fetish and not bother with AFD. This is something that can be solved by editing instead of deletion. - Mgm|(talk) 04:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Just have the disambiguation page speedy deleted. Disambiguating between non-existing articles is grounds for speedy deletion. In fact, let me do that now. - Mgm|(talk) 07:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • So, how does it look now? :) Mgm|(talk) 07:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Cool, thanks :D --ColourBurst 15:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

IPA font[edit]

Hello. When I look at Wikipedia articles, most of the text is easy to read, in a nice-size Arial font. But IPA pronunciations are not so clear. They show up in a very light serif font, and some of the strokes are so thin that they disappear. Is there any way to change the way IPA text is displayed? — Michael J 05:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I also wanted to ask this one. Someone added the IPA to Shimla, and now I see two boxes and a couple of incoherent letters. Is it something with my pc or should I just revert? -- Lost 15:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Can't reduce the height of table rows[edit]

Here is an example of a table I'm trying to build:

Author's name
First Series:

Book 1 (1991) | Book 2 (1992) | Book 3 (1981)

Second Series:

Book 1 (1980) | Book 2 (1982) | Book 3 (1983)

Third Series:

Book 1 (1980) | Book 2 (1982) | Book 3 (1983)

Because I'm using <small> text, I want to reduce the gaps between the rows, but I can't get the row height below about 20px. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks. --Bruce1ee 06:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't do it by setting table parameters, but I solved the problem using simple line breaks:
<br style="clear: both;" />
{| align="center" class="toccolours" style="margin:0 auto; text-align: center; width: 40%;"
! style="background: #6699CC; font-size:larger;" colspan="2" | Author's name
|- style="font-size:smaller;text-align:left;" valign="top"
| width="25%" height="20px" | 
'''First Series:'''

'''Second Series:'''

'''Third Series:'''
||
''Book 1'' (1991) '''|'''
''Book 2'' (1992) '''|'''
''Book 3'' (1981)

''Book 1'' (1980) '''|'''
''Book 2'' (1982) '''|'''
''Book 3'' (1983)

''Book 1'' (1980) '''|'''
''Book 2'' (1982) '''|'''
''Book 3'' (1983)
|}

which generates

Author's name

First Series:

Second Series:

Third Series:

Book 1 (1991) | Book 2 (1992) | Book 3 (1981)

Book 1 (1980) | Book 2 (1982) | Book 3 (1983)

Book 1 (1980) | Book 2 (1982) | Book 3 (1983)

--Schzmo 23:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it worked! Thank you so much for your help. --Bruce1ee 06:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Chronological lists[edit]

I've been doing some (unfinished!) work on the article Norwich City player of the year.

It struck me that visitors to the article are more likely to be interested in recent winners than past, so I propose to reorder the list into reverse chronological order.

However, I'm not too excited about the idea that someone may come along and revert my efforts waving a policy I'm not aware of... so my question is, is there a hard and fast Wiki policy that chronological lists need to be ordered from oldest to newest, or can I cut my cloth to suit the (perceived) needs of the article? --Dweller 09:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works) might be of interest to you. Dismas|(talk) 10:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks.
The inactive, proposed addition to the MoS you've pointed me to, says nothing and the Talk page makes it clear there's no consensus. --Dweller 10:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, you asked "is there a hard and fast Wiki policy" and I think that adequately answers the question as "no" :-) --Sam Blanning(talk) 16:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


technical term[edit]

what is the technical tgerm for: 1.star 2.milkyway 3.galaxy 4.lightyear 5.orbit 6.ellipse 7.universe--213.106.248.101 14:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost 15:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
  • What do you mean? As far as I know those are technical terms. At least the official words to describe what they mean... - Mgm|(talk) 15:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


Adding a Category[edit]

Hello. I was building a Wikipedia page and my page got deleted because it didn't have a category. How do you add the category to your page? Please send an answer to my User Page.

AmericanXplorer13 15:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Add [[Category:Category name]] to the bottom of the article. I doubt the article was deleted for not having categories, though. It could easily be resolved by adding a category instead of deleting the article. Could you share the article's title? Perhaps it's got other problems. - Mgm|(talk) 15:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The forum is Google Earth Community


why won't my article come up when I search for its title?[edit]

On July 11, I made an article titled "Men's Health Network," but when I search for that name, my article doesn't come up. My article can be viewed under categories - pages - health - m. Also, after a search for "men's health network" three articles come up, and the second one for "Stephen Baskerville" has a link to my page. Please tell me what I can do to make the article come up directly/independently for the results of a "men's health network." Thanks a lot!

WP:VFAQ#An article doesn't show up in the search. fetofs Hello! 18:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Wikipedia's search database is updated relatively infrequently. Searching via Google (use "site:en.wikipedia.org men's health network") often produces better results. Your article doesn't appear on Google either yet, but their spiders should get to it fairly quickly. You can go to it directly by typing 'Men's Health Network' in our search bar and clicking 'Go' (note: capitalisation matters unless you create redirects), or by typing it directly into your URL bar (look for where it says 'Wikipedia:Help desk', replace that with 'Men's health network', and voila). --Sam Blanning(talk) 18:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually it does come up when you type "Men’s Health Network'" with a curly apostrophe (’). It doesn't work with the straight typewriter apostrophe ('). It might better to rename the article as "Mens Health Network&;;quot; despite the imrpoper punctuation to make it easier to locate. --Cplot 18:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
On second thought, I'd keep the page where it is and add two redirct pages: "Mens Health Network" (no apostrophe) and Men's Health Network" (typewriter apostrophe).

Thank you so much for writing me back so quickly!! I tried to make redirects, like you said, but they're not working for me. I think I'm doing them wrong. At the bottom of my article page I added:

#REDIRECT men's health network {{R from other capitalisation}}
#REDIRECT mens health network
#REDIRECT Men's health network
#REDIRECT Mens health network

Is that the right way to do it? Thanks again!

You have the sense of the redirect backwards. Essentially you need to create new articles with the various spellings you want redirected to your article, i.e. put the text #REDIRECT [[Men’s Health Network]] as the only content in the article Men's Health Network, and Mens Health Network (these two cover all capitalizations when using the Go button). -- Rick Block (talk) 19:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed the redirects from the main page (that can be confusing to edit when it keeps redirecting away). I also added the redirect pages which you can get to at:

Men's_Health_Network
Mens_Health_Network

I think the capitalization varions should be covered by this. But if not you can create new ones for those too. --Cplot 19:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Why do so many people want to see their submission picked up by a search engine immediately? Patience is a virtue. - Mgm|(talk) 20:04, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
    I think there's confusion between "search" and "go", and what most folks are after is the ability to get to their article by typing something that isn't exactly the full case sensitive title in the search box and clicking "go". I believe having the entry "search box" used for both, and having "go" typically find articles that aren't the exact case sensitive title, and having "go" do a search if it can't find the right article leads many people to think of "go" as essentially the same thing as "search". -- Rick Block (talk) 13:35, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Copyright status of seals of US counties[edit]

Hiya, maybe not the appropriate place for this question, but I'm not too familiar with en:, so bear with me. Does anyone have information or links that can clarify the copyright status of seals of US counties? A lot of seals would be PD-old (maybe with some non-copyright usage restrictions) I guess, nevertheless {{seal}} is used on most of them, which is a fair-use template. Please be so kind as to move my question to a more appropriate page if you know one. If you can answer my question please do so on my talk page. Thanks in advance. NielsFTalk to me.. 21:07, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


protection[edit]

Can just anyone put the {{sprotect}} template on a page or does it have to be an admin? The article for Devon Aoki has been vandalized a number of times recently by different IPs and I was wondering if a peon such as myself could put the template there without the man comin' down on me. Dismas|(talk) 21:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


Anyone can put {{sprotect}} on a page, but it is just a template. To actually protect the page a sysop must go to the protection page, and set the status to "Block new and unregistered users". You should not add the sprotect tag unless the page has been protected (check the Protection log). The vandalism on Devon Aoki is actually pretty minor compared to some other pages, and probably doesn't require protection. Prodego talk 21:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Better visit WP:RFP and leave a message there.--Max Talk (add) 21:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Dismas|(talk) 21:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


Columns[edit]

Hi! Does wikipedia formatting allow columns? Specifically, I'm thinking on a way to translate a passage from a song or a poem in a foreign language next to the original text. Will I need to make a table? Thanks! -- Byakuren 21:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes it does. See User:Prodego/Policy for an example. Prodego talk 21:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I really didn't explain myself clearly. I searched a bit more, and found that what I wanted can be done, as seen in the Italian anthem. Now my new question is this: What's the tutorial page for this kind of formatting? I looked at the code in the "edit" page, and am not sure I fully understand it, and I can't find the help page for that. Thanks, for that super fast reply last time!! -- Byakuren 21:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
The help page is at Help:Table. You can find most of the help pages through Help:Contents, if you know what sub menu to look under. Let me know if you need any help, Prodego talk 21:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!! -- Byakuren 22:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


Adding a link to a corresponding Wikipedia entry in a different language[edit]

Stumbling upon the stub of an English-language entry on the «komusō», I tried to edit it by adding a link to the far more extensive Japanese-language entry, in the manner in which corresponding links are made available in other entries, but found myself unable to so, despite some searching in the help section. I may be missing something incredibly obvious here, but I should in any event very much appreciate your informing me how links of this type (to Wikipedia entries «in other languages») can be added to an entry....

Please see Wikipedia:Interlanguage links. -- Rick Block (talk) 22:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

July 12[edit]

How do I change the name of an article?[edit]

I found an article on wikipedia that is incorrectly named, and I'm trying to find a way to edit the wrong title to the correct one. Darwin's Bulldog 00:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

If the naming issue is not controversial, just click the "move" tab on the top of the article and follow instructions. --Schzmo 00:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanx, I fixed it. I moved the page called "Blackthorne (comics)" to Blackthorne Publishing. Darwin's Bulldog 06:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Photo[edit]

Just want to know how to add a photo to an article that already exists in Wikipedia. Looked up some info but could not figure it out. I have a MAC iBook G4 and would be using a photo from my iPhoto library. Any suggestions? thanks for the help.

The technical part is easy: Just go to Special:Upload and fill out all the information. Please make sure you check out the GFDL license and use it if at all possible and applicable. Copyrighted images you don't own the copyright to should be avoided. If you have any questions, we're watching this page. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 02:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Then see Wikipedia:Extended image syntax for how to put the image in the article and set various parameters (size, caption, alignment etc.) --Schzmo 02:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


add a search box on my site?[edit]

I saw something in the help archives about a code to place on your external website for a wikipedia search engine, but it had a link that didn't bring me to the code. I'm wondering if there is some code that we can use to paste on a blog or website. Thanks.

Check out [4]. I think that's what you're asking for, since you can't have Wikipedia search your site, but your site can have a searchbox to search Wikipedia. ~Kylu (u|t) 06:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


T-shirts[edit]

When will wikipedia T-shirts be available to purchase?

  • They already are. See [www.cafepress.com/wikipedia/528088 Wikipedia's Cafepress store]. - Mgm|(talk) 08:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Muhamed Shereef Vallooth[edit]

Hi, how could i make a page in Wikipedia

Its very easy. See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Also please see the welcome message on your talk page -- Lost 09:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


INCEST[edit]

Can you give solution on incest on how to stop incest.

Well this helpdesk is only for questions pertaining to wikipedia... -- Lost 10:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. --Schzmo 11:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Tell the police. - Mgm|(talk) 12:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


undiscoveredscotland.co.uk advertising spamming - please help halt[edit]

I've noticed there's 8 pages of hits to undiscoveredscotland.co.uk, 99.9% of which add absolutely no value to the pages where they are found. Instead, it is shameless commercial advertising on the part of an organisation making a profit by redirecting wikipedia traffic to their site. Please remove this spamvertising from the wikipedia, and keep it as a reputable site hosting reference information and not crap like undiscoveredscotland.co.uk has spewed forth!

Hi, Welcome to Wikipedia. As an editor, you can remove these links yourself. Your assistance in ridding Wikipedia of spam would be appreciated. Notinasnaid 12:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Followup: I have tried to edit them, but got a warning that my cleanup efforts were sensed by one or more autobots as being defacement attempts rather than cleanup efforts. Surely there must be some way for a sysop to globally clean those 150-200 spamvert postings they've made...?

This is because you are trying to change them into bad URLs, by adding "censored" or whatever. What you need to do is just delete the entire line entry. It would probably help also if you registered an account, which only takes seconds. Thanks for your attempts! The problem with automating such a process is that you might remove ones that are entirely appropriate, or delete a paragraph with some other significance; each link should usually be checked for context. What would be useful is a built in tool to give Wikipedia pages with a particular site linked. Have you found one? Notinasnaid 12:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
P.S. Take care not to remove it from the "Resources" section of an item unless you have checked it wasn't used as a source. This is why automation is a problem. Notinasnaid 12:42, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
If you want help, there are folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam who do just this sort of thing. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


I was wondering....[edit]

Hi, I'm new, and I was wondering what the punishments were for some of these (you might be able to tell I'm from GF):

  • Trolling/Flaming
  • Offensive language
  • Hacking accounts

Also, what if an admin does it? What if Jimbo or whatever does it? So, I guess 9 questions. Thx.

For trolling/flaming, first the user will be warned and if s/he doesn't improve, it will lead to a block. Ditto for offensive language. I doubt if there is any punishment for the hacking offender apart from the legal provisions against hacking that exist in most countries. For example if someone hacks, there can't be any online punishment for him as he has nothing to lose. If an admin does any of these, there is a good chance that s/he will be de-sysopped (having his admin status taken away), though s/he would also be warned first. No such provision exists for Jimbo. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 14:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Remember that blocks and bans are not meted out as punishment, but to prevent further damage to the encyclopedia and the Wikimedia foundation. Cheers, Tangotango 16:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

By hacking I meant figuring out someone's password and logging in as them.


Renaming Pages[edit]

I am considering renaming the article Kitchen Party to Kitchen Party (film), but reading Wikipedia's policies on renaming/moving tells me the OLD page will be a redirect page to the new one. The problem is, I plan on creating a NEW article out of the redirect page (Kitchen Party), discussing the well-known Atlantic Canadian tradition of, obvoiusly, Kitchen Party's. Do I have to keep Kitchen Party as a redirect page? Or can I make it into a new article? Does this make sense? --Crabbyass 14:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I suggest that you make the parent page (Kitchen Party) a redirect page, and use parenthesis to distinguish between the different articles. However, you may also keep the current page intact and create a Kitchen Party (disambiguation) page to link to the various articles having the same name. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 14:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, but can I have the Kitchen Party page re-direct to a Kitchen Party (disambiguation) page? Or does it HAVE to re-direct to the original article, which was moved to Kitchen Party (film), for record/history/archival purposes?? --Crabbyass 14:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Dont worry, it doesnt have to redirect there. You can even create the disambiguation page on the original article. -Lost 16:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
You can, but why waste a page. I would suggest you use Kitchen Party for disambiguation (I mistakenly used the word "redirect" in my previous reply). Though this would be preferable here, articles with a lot of incoming links should preferably not be moved to make way for disambiguation. If you plan to move the current page, fix all broken links to the new location. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:23, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


How to change language on the site[edit]

How to change language on the site —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.52.153.78 (talkcontribs) 14:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Go to your preferences and change the interface language there. Cheers, Tangotango 16:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


How to change Username...[edit]

How do I change my username? I don't see an option in "my preferences". Charlenewright 16:02, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Go here to place your request. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Since you have only one edit other than this, why don't you get a new username altogether. In most cases, just changing the signature is sufficient. For example, you can change your signature to:
Charlene Wright
or whatever you prefer. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, creating a new account would be by far your best solution. My bet is that the process in WP:CHU is not an easy one. Changing just your signature will probably not be satisfactory, since you will still appear in edit histories, etc. with your old name. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 19:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Seven wonders of world[edit]

seven wonders of world —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kesiv (talkcontribs) 16:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. - Tangotango 16:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

In case you want the link to the wonders on wikipedia, here it is - Lost 16:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


How do you upload images onto Wikipedia!!!!![edit]

I read the Wikipedia help section but I'm still confused!!!! I don't know what to do on the uploading page!!!! Thanks to anyone taking their time reading this.

User: Himanyo

Just look at the left hand column of the page. Something called toolbox. See the link to upload file there? But after clicking on the link and before uploading the image, please go through what is written very carefully. Copyrighted images are a strict no-no here. Also please go through this link: Wikipedia:Uploading images. All the best and welcome to wikipedia -- Lost 17:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me out Lost. But I have one more question. What do you do on the uploading page?

User: Himanyo

Well, after you have gone through the important messages on the page, just scroll down the page and look for "Source filename". See the "browse" button there? Click on that, point it to the image, fill in the necessary info in the other blanks and click on "upload file". But do go through the link in my previous message before doing all this -- Lost 17:29, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I went to your username in Wikipedia and at the end I saw all these things about India. Are you Indian because I am. User: Himanyo

I did whatever you told me Lost, but it won't work! How about this: I tell the picture I want to upload and you do it for me. Does that sound okay? User: Himanyo

Yes I am Indian. Ok, can you point me to where the image is. And also the source of the image and whether it is copyrighted or not? -- Lost 18:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Cool! OK, so I want the picture on the website " http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/antelope/Bongo.shtml" to be uploaded onto the section of Wikipedia of Bongo (antelope). I'll do the rest. Also I don't know if it is copyrighted or not. Thanks for helping me out.

Just look on the bottom right hand corner of the image. It says copyrighted by ZoomSchool.com. Which means that unless we have their specific approval, we cannot load the image to wikipedia. Sorry -- Lost 19:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I didn't see that. Thanks for telling me. Sorry if I got you into this much trouble just to upload something. Well I just read the Help section more thoroughly and get another picture.

Username: Himanyo

Another tip: a web page doesn't need to have a copyright notice: almost everything is copyright unless it says that it isn't (the magic word is "public domain"). By and large, the only thing you can put on Wikipedia without getting permission is your own photographs (which can then be freely copied and used by anyone else, including sold for money without giving you any). Copyright is a complicated business. Notinasnaid 19:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Just a tip that will save you some time, Himanyo: It looks like you are signing your posts manually, that is by typing out your username. Wikipedia has made it very easy to sign your posts with both your name and the date. Just type four tildes like this: ~~~~ --Ginkgo100 talk · contribs · e@ 19:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Capitalization in page title needs correction...[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanie_pullen

How to just capitalize the "P"?

Have you tried moving the page, by clicking the Move tab? --JD[don't talk|email] 19:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I did it for you, but the option to move a page is there by using the Move tab, should you need it in future. --JD[don't talk|email] 19:29, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much - I think my account is too "young" to do the move.

  • If you created it, an alternative option is to capitalize it when you name your article the first time. - Mgm|(talk) 21:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


How to best handle articles written like ads[edit]

Specifically, I'm talking about CHARTrunner. Currently, the article reads like an ad, but a Google search seems to indicate that the software is notable, and the article simply must be rewritten. Since I don't have any knowledge of the subject, I was hoping to find a proper template to tag the article with so someone with more experience may properly rewrite the article. How should I handle this? --Spring Rubber 20:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

For that particular article, I would recommend adding the following templates to the top: {{advert}}, {{uncat}}, and {{wikify}}. :) --Elonka 20:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. That's a lot of templates! I was looking for the {{advert}} template specifically, but I couldn't find it on any of the policy or guideline pages. Was I looking in the wrong place? On another note, it looks like the date for new entries on this help page is still July 11. I take it that the date has to be manually changed? --Spring Rubber 20:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Which policy/guideline pages were you checking? If you think that one of them would benefit by adding a link to the pointer, it's probably worth adding, since it you went there looking for the advert template, other people may have tried the same thing. --Elonka 21:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I visited WP:ADS by simply guessing the abbreviation. I didn't find what I was looking for there (the advert template). Should that template be mentioned on that guideline page, or is there some other policy or guideline page for articles that read like advertisements that I missed? --Spring Rubber 21:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

You are probably looking for Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance. Though, you are right. It should probably be mentioned on the above page too -- Lost 02:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


help pic[edit]

hi i was wondering how do i put a pic on the article of the strahov stadium? i figured since its the world's largest, it deserves one. how do i past a pic on the article and where?

Upload the image, then put in the article [[Image:name of image here.ext|left or right here|thumb|caption goes here]]. If you need more help, as I can imagine that's not very clear, leave me a message on my talk page. --JD[don't talk|email] 20:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Grave marking industry[edit]

Could someone, who knows the procedure, start moves to delete the above article? It's impossible to edit because I have absolutely no idea what it's trying to say! - Adrian Pingstone 21:22, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

This seems to be an honest attempt to start an article on the occupation and work of what in Britain might be called a "monumental mason". That is, the people who make gravestones (or who take existing stones and write names, epitaphs, or make pictures of angels on them). Much improvement is possible, but seems no reason to delete. Notinasnaid 21:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
There's already an article named Headstone that covers the subject. That said, I think the author may have been trying to emphasize the role of the stonecutter instead of the role of the headstone itself. Also, I think the author isn't a native English speaker. You might want to talk with the author directly (using his talk page) to see if he'd be willing to merge the article in with Headstone. Personally, I don't think the article needs to be deleted, but it needs some work. Putting the {{cleanup}} template on the article might get it some attention. In general, the deletion process is detailed at Wikipedia:Deletion process. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 21:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


seaching for Information[edit]

I am a on-line student looking for information on soft drink companys and their history background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.183.167.226 (talkcontribs) 22:54, 12 July 2006

Start from soft drink article. You can find there suitable links (eg. to soft drink companies). Try also Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Jacek Kendysz 23:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Chinese Wikipedia[edit]

Hi,

I am considering writing articles in Chinese for wikipedia. But I am curious: does anyone know if the website is blocked or accessible in mainland China (the people's republic)?? Please post to my talk page.

Chironares 23:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

See Blocking of Wikipedia in mainland China. Jacek Kendysz 23:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)


Possible to add a redirect to category?[edit]

Is it possible to assign a category to a redirect page? This could be useful if the redirect was the popular name for something (e.g. an acronym or stage name), but the article content was under another title (e.g. full spelling or real name). The soft redirect might not be appropriate since it would cause the user to click twice through to the main article. --DaSchick 23:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes. In the very normal way, just add [[category:whatever]] to the redirect page (keeping #REDIRECT as the first line). -- Rick Block (talk) 01:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

July 13[edit]

wikipedia mobile[edit]

can i get an offline version of wikipedia for a non-connected environment?

PLEASE advise, thanks, Don

You are probably looking for Wapedia -- Lost 01:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Strange centering[edit]

The external links toward the bottom of Portal:Judaism/Weekly Torah portion look very off, and I can't figure out how to fix it...? --zenohockey 02:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

They have been centred. Just click on edit the page and you will see the centre syntax. If you remove it, they will show to the left again. Hope this helps. But, whoever centred them may have done so for a reason. You may first like to check on the discussion page of that topic. -- Lost 02:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I assume to set them off from the rest of the page. But even the previous syntax, which to my HTML-untrained eyes looks okay, doesn't explain why the text wasn't actually centered. That's my question (which, to be fair, I didn't really ask). --zenohockey 02:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Is it because of the image? You can try inserting <br clear=all/> before the first one and seeing if it makes a difference in preview. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Am I in trouble?[edit]

I have recently been cited with numerous copyright violations, including at least 5 of which I created more than 2 months ago. Most of the one's I created were created a long time ago, and I was shocked to see that they were listed as copyright violations. I gave them the link to the copyrighted site, so I wasn't trying to conceal anything. I greatly apologize for making copyrighted articles, and have tried to fix some of them. However, I am really worried, that I will be in a lot of trouble. What do you think?--Summonmaster13 04:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Relax - you won't be in any trouble, as long as you don't continue posting copyrighted material on the site. Since you seem to realise the gravity of violating copyright, I doubt this will be a problem for you. The copyrighted material you were warned about will likely be deleted in due course. You might also like to go through your past contributions and see if there are any copyrighted materials that have been missed. Also, take a look through Wikipedia:Copyright problems and Wikipedia:Copyrights for more about copyrights. Cheers, Tangotango 05:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
(edit conflict) We dont bite the newcomers here. Infact it is strongly discouraged. So dont worry. You are not in trouble. But do go through the copyright policy in detail. Its taken very seriously -- Lost 05:14, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Userbox...[edit]

what's a userbox? ~Sushi 09:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

A userbox is a small coloured box that allows users to add small messages on their user pages. See WP:Userboxes for more detail -- Lost 09:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Category problem[edit]

Up until recently, Hoodlums (Rayman)'s only category was "Wikipedia articles with topics of unclear importance". I tried to put it in "Rayman" (a small subcategory of "Ubisoft Entertainment games"), but instead that formatted as just "Category: Ubisoft Entertainment games". Why did this happen, and please can you tell me how to fix it so that it goes in the "Rayman" category? Thanks. RobbieG 10:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

It should be [[Category:Rayman]], not {{Category:Rayman}}. Double brackets are for links, double braces are for transcluding templates. I've fixed it. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 10:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that's also cleared up a confusion for me regarding categories in general. RobbieG 10:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


What's the proper HTML format for a hard- or carriage return[edit]

I usually use br enclosed by triangle brackets, but some people seem to think you need to put a slash before the closing bracket which makes no sense to me since (1) there's no opening tag and (2) even if there was the slash should go at the front and not the back. Could anyone enlighten me as to what syntax should be used for these in Wikipedia articles? - Mgm|(talk) 12:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I think your two questions cancel each other out. < BR > and < / BR > and < BR / > would be three different tags. The first is an opener, the second one is a closer. They should be used in pairs, but HTML commonly breaks those rules. However, XHTML cannot break the rules; openers and closers MUST be used in pairs in XML. The special form < anything / > is supposed to be exactly the same as writing < anything > < / anything >; hence < BR / > is the required XHTML tag. I have no idea whether XHTML is supposed to be the standard in Wikipedia, however. Notinasnaid 12:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
When making the article, the Wikipedia parser (or whatever) turns <br> into <br /> anyway (check by viewing the page source). I think <br /> is the more correct version (that will work with older browsers).--Commander Keane 12:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Image[edit]

In the article maggot, someone posted an image taken from a website, which is, I believe, a copyright violation. What do I do to the image? (remove it from the article?) Mo-Al 16:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Goto the image and tag it as a possible copyvio, I believe the template includes instructions on what to do after that, if not, see WP:IFD which may help.--Crossmr 16:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
You tag the image like this (Someone already had done so): {{untagged|month=July|day=13|year=2006}} , which displays as:
This image does not have a copyright tag. Copyright tagging is required to provide a consistent way to identify the copyright status of images, and to allow for automated classification of images. This template should be replaced with the appropriate copyright tag. Failure to tag an image may lead to its deletion. If you have any questions please see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.
  • That should be good enough. The patroling admins will deal with it. // FrankB 16:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Copyvio, or the other way about[edit]

The previous text of Measure for Measure was replaced with a lengthy plot synopsis in this edit. It's something of an improvement on what was there before, so I'd like to let it stand. However, because it was clearly dumped in one go, I tried to check whether there was a copyvio, and if you Google "Froth to Angelo and Escalus accusing them of illegal doings" you do indeed get an outside link, to here. The trouble is, that hasn't carried me very far. I've no intention of subscribing to learnessays.com and buying the essay to find out if wikipedia's article is plagiarised from it. Also, I've realised that the theft could be the other way: them selling our article. Is there any sensible way to resolve this? I've left a short message on User talk:Cybermyth, but I don't really expect a reply given his short contribution history. Does anyone have any thoughts? AndyJones 16:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • That's not a terribly large change in such a short article. Just because some words strung together hit, that doesn't indicate that there is a copywrite collision. You'd hate my edits. I add far more that that usually!
Still, your concern is laudable. Suggest you try posting your concern and query on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Theatre  /  Talk, where it is likely someone will be an expert on the topic, and will perhaps have some teaching experience at catching plagerisms.
Also, even more importantly, ask the question directly of the editor...
Is there any reason to assume bad faith? If they're inexperienced (contribs), or don't have a record of similar edits, then suspicion is perhaps better warranted.
OTOH, perhaps they authored the piece on that site. So don't hesitate to ask THEM, it needn't be a confrontation... and may do some good if you're concerns have any basis in fact at all.
We all check up on each other, so get used to taking your share of the burden all the way, not just asking an overly busy admin on suspicion.
When your investigation seems to indicate something is still 'stinky' then yell for help. <g>
FYI (and others)-- (I found backing to it from Category:Culture_WikiProjects, being 'aware' of what special interest's 'experts' there may be is half the battle sometimes <g>. So find the List of WikiProjects and bookmark it for future connumdrums!) See also: Category:WikiProject Performing arts for the in-between navigation. // FrankB 17:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
  • You're right that there was no reason to assume bad faith, and I'm still not doing so. Besides it's easy to make a good faith copyvio, especially if you're new. However an exact match over a string of words including proper nouns isn't just a coincidence as your opening words suggest. I've tried repeating the exercise with other strings, and my new conclusion is that the article was very probably lifted from here. I think I need to revert that, although again it's equally possible that onlineshakespeare.com's source was wikipedia, not the other way about. Thanks for your help. AndyJones 17:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
That's a horse of a different color. That does qualify as bad faith, in it's way. Now that you're sure you have the source, it should be fixed... The best solution would not be a revert, IMHO, but rewrite to have the same content. If you don't want to take it on, document it in the talk, add a copyedit tag there, and revert it.
  • I'd probably still ask the editor (pointing out he'd been caught) whether they would fix it, or whether you should you do so.
Good for the soul (LOL) and they'll think twice about using source material if they keep editing. btw- your first reference link just gave a membership blurb. The second is much better. So you can assume some malfeasance now, in good faith (<BSEG>). Best wishes // FrankB 18:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


How do I add information[edit]

Hi My name is Gabe and I represent the Prog-Rock power trio, Guido's Hand. We would love to have our band added to your encyclopedia. Could you please tell me how I would go about doing so? You can access our webpage at www.guidoshandrocks.com Thanks for your time Gabe

Hi, thank you for your interest. However, please take a look at WP:AUTO and WP:BAND. Since all Wikipedia articles must conform to the verifiability, notability and neutral point of view policies, countless band-related articles are deleted every day as not being suitable for the encyclopedia. Technically, you can create a new article by looking at the instructions at Wikipedia:Your first article, but please be wary of our policies and guidelines. Cheers, Tangotango 17:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Making Your Own Page[edit]

How do I make my own page?

Question[edit]

Why is Wikipedia so divided that versions in different languages don't recognize U when U want to log in?--AraX 10:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

They were historically created as independent projects and still function independently (articles in one have no visibility in another). The software (at the time) did not support one wiki with users defined in another one, so here we are. I believe this is being worked on, but it requires changes to the software. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thx, got it.--AraX 21:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


"create date" and "first author" variables, templates, macros or whatever?[edit]

If I want to include in a template the first author and date of first creation of a page, is there a variable, template, macro, or other suitable species of mechanism to do it - or can I write one? What I'd like is to be able to write a template which includes wording to produce something like:

This article (Toenail transplants) was first created by Albert Sidebottom on 17th May 2003

by writing something like:

''This article {{BASEPAGENAME}} was first created by {{  ???  }} on {{  ???  }}''

Thanks in anticipation. Hebrides 12:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know of such a mechansim. I guess your best bet would be to write (or request) a bot which will add this to desired pages. More pressing is the question of where do you intend to use this template? Putting it in the article namespace doesn't seem like a good idea. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
If I run across it in an article, I will immediately delete it. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, this is similar to the request I made up in the Village pump... Titoxd(?!?) 05:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Your Village pump request is interesting, Titoxd. I wasn't actually thinking of using this on Wikipedia articles - but your request has made me think again. I like your idea... Hebrides 10:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


RSS Feed[edit]

Hello,

I have a yahoo 360 Blog and wondered if you allowed anyone to add your site or portions there of as a rss feed on a Blog.

Thanks, CS

Hey CS,
All contributions to Wikipedia are licensed under the GFDL, with the exception of many image and media files, which are under an assortment of free licenses (and some are used under the doctrine of fair use). So, read that license to get an idea of what uses are allowed.
Also, you may find Special:Export helpful to you. --ryos 20:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


editing[edit]

I have an article titled, CHARTrunner. I would like to edit it to chartrunner since the "search" box is case sensitive. Pls. notify me in my talk page thank you

I like cheetos 14:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

No, you don't. Articles need to be located at their proper capitalization. - 131.211.210.16 07:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Suggested using a Wikipedia:Redirect at User talk:I like cheetos. -- Rick Block (talk) 15:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Possible copyright issue?[edit]

Financial_Consumer_Agency_of_Canada The last paragraph makes me wonder if this isn't a possibly copyright issue:

The information in this article is taken entirely from information available on the public web pages of the Government of Canada, specifically the website of FCAC (see link below), and is reproduced here with the permission of the Agency.

They claim to have permission (and its likely with the username thats been editing this its an employee of the FCAC), but of course offer up no proof of such. I didn't want to slap a copyvio on it too hastily.--Crossmr 16:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

(Canadian) government publications – unlike their U.S. counterparts – are covered by Crown copyright. Usually this permits reuse for noncommercial and educational use, however this blanket permission is insufficiently broad for use in the GFDL-licensed Wikipedia.
In order to use government material verbatim we would need to receive special permission to release it under the GFDL, from an individual empowered to give such permission. (They would need to understand the implications of the GFDL, including the right to redistribute.) See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission; once you receive confirmation that appropriate permission has been granted, forward the email to permissions@wikimedia.org. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 17:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not the one seeking permission its whoever added this information. However a quick view of the site doesn't seem to suggest this was actually taken verbatim, I think it was just an improper wording on their part.--Crossmr 00:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


What happens if you hack someone's account?[edit]

Like, you find out Jimbo's password, and you go into his account and do stuff? What if you do it then log out immediately?

They will find your IP and block it indefinitely so that you can't do it again. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

What if they don't know who did it?

They do. They can easily track your IP address. Mo-Al 19:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Who are 'they'? They sound quite scary. —Daniel (‽) 19:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
The Cabal. But don't ask them about it. They'll try to deny it. --Kwekubo 20:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
There is only a cabal if you want there to be one. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


WikiProjects[edit]

I have an idea for a rather large WikiProject.

I am wondering if there is any way to create an Administrator level of editorial control (deletes, etc...) within a specific project.

The reason I ask is that I am perfectly happy for my content to be copyleft, but I am concerned about losing control of its quality and content, and/or that someone else may attempt to control this.

I am new to Wikipedia, so this may be a wrongheaded or inappropriate attitude on my part, but perhaps in asking it I will find out other things that will help me to decide if this is the right place for my content.

Thanks very much for your time.

Scott L. Bain ---Scott L. Bain- 20:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • No single editor is in control of any article and it is indeed inappropriate to try to be. However, the goal of keeping content high quality is a good one and there's already several projects working to this goal (people who correct spelling, check facts, provide sources and work to get stuff to featured quality). Try becoming a member of existing WikiProjects to ensure the keepup of the quality on articles you care about. - 131.211.210.16 07:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Service For Peace[edit]

Hello,

My name is Diana and I would like to edit the Service For Peace area. I am their international communications director. Please email me at EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED TO PREVENT SPAM with information. My username at this website is serviceforpeace

Thanks! Diana

You are quite welcome to edit the article on Service For Peace; just click the 'edit this page' tab at the top of the article. See Wikipedia:How to edit a page for information on how to format your contributions. However, all contributions to Wikipedia must be written from a neutral point of view, which could be difficult for you since you are personally linked to the organisation in question. Be aware that others may subsequently edit your contributions if they feel that the article is non-NPOV. --Kwekubo 20:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Neopets[edit]

You use to have the full neopets history. Please tell me where I can find it!! Thank you..Leona

Try our article on Neopets. --Kwekubo 20:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Your Piggly Wiggly Stores article[edit]

My father and his brothers founded a chain in Omaha, Nebraska named "Hinky Dinky" in about 1929. Shortly thereafter Piggly Wiggly filed a patent infrinement suit, obviously claiming infringement of the patent cited in your "Piggly Wiggly" article. My father told me that the suit was dismissed after the "Hinky Dinky" stores agreed to separate its alternate aisles from the rear wall of the store, thus freeing up the customers to go directly to any spot in the store. If you read the claims in Piggly Wiggly article, you will see that the "Hinky Dinky" alteration wold not infringe the "Piggly Wiggly" patent.

As far as I know the "Hinky Dinky" chain was the first to open up to shoppers a self-service grocery store in this fashion, thus creating gondolas and no longer forcing customers to walk sinuously throught the store. As we all know, the "Hinky Dinky" format is now universal in self-service stores of all sorts.

I would guess that the "Hinky Dinky" format was not patentable as no doubt there were many stores for many years prior laid out in that fashion. I do not know if "Piggly Wiggly filed infringement suits against other retailers, but, as a retired Patent attorney, I do know that its patent was probably valid, but obviously of little value. By the way this is true of many novel ideas which have been patented.

  • I suggest you add this content to the talk page for Piggly Wiggly. — Reinyday, 21:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I moved it for you. — Reinyday, 21:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


PRN Issue[edit]

When I search for the letters "PRN," my browser gives an error. This was true in IE 6.0, Firefox 1.5, both from home and from work.

  • Mine doesn't (I'm using Firefox on a Mac). Are you looking for the PRN article? — Reinyday, 21:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


Stage Names??[edit]

Just a quick question: when writing articles about stars, is it preferable to use their real names or their (more popular) stage names? Pages like Cher seem to hint at the latter, but the K-Pop pages I'm working on are using their proper names (Choi Sung-Hee for Bada, Yoo Soo-Young for Shoo, etc.). But then, Chae Yeon is Chae Yeon, even though her real name is Lee Jin-Sook. These are all stars who are known mainly by their stage name, so is it proper for me to move them? SKS2K6 22:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

  • See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Nick names, pen names, stage names, cognomens. — Reinyday, 22:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Sorry for the short reply; my baby was crying. The key phrase is "The most used name to refer to a person is generally the one that Wikipedia will choose as page name..." Does a journalistic article about a K-Pop musician refer to them by real name or stage name? — Reinyday, 22:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Another thought is to create a page under the other name, as a redirect, for example the text of the page Shoo could be "#REDIRECT [[Yoo Soo-Young]]" (or whatever). That way, whichever page the reader goes to, she will find the article. AndyJones 08:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Having said that, I see there's a problem with my example, since we already have an article called Shoo! AndyJones 08:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

July 14[edit]

Footnotes - Aaaaarrrrrgggh ![edit]

I am trying to learn inline citation so that I can raise articles to Featured Article standard. Please could you take a look at the article Grenadier Guards which I do not see as a FA. I have made an attempt to generate a footnote as a test case for other articles I'm working on.

However, I have enountered difficulties in execution and also in terminology. Let me first say I know about bibliographic and citation style, but have had trouble with

  • working with the "ref" and "note" templates. Having checked the appropriate Wikipedia How-to page - WP:IC - on this, I'm thoroughly confused. I tried to create a footnote in Grenadier Guards using the "ref" and "note" templates. The note looks OK, but the ref in the text (it's in the Marches section) is NOT ok. Could you please take a look at the article and advise me as to where I'm going wrong on this?
  • Relating what seems to be "Reference" advice to my Footnotes and Reference section. The instructions on the How-To page do not clearly distinguish between a Footnote and a Reference. To my understanding, the Reference section is a bibliography and each reference item would appear therein only once. Meanwhile, Footnotes can refer to the same text a number of times - i.e., Ibid. and Op. Cit. references, etc. etc.

Are the "ref" and "note" templates actually for footnote use? What am I missing here?

  • And finally: in the article Grenadier Guards have I placed the Footnotes, References, See Also and External Links categories in the right order?

Your sage advice welcomed as always. -- FClef (Talk) 00:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I have put the footnote and references in the {{cite book}} format, and used the <ref></ref> format for the note in the hope that this is what you were looking for. Please feel free to revert.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I refer to your actions on my recent Help Desk query. Thanks very much for using the advanced formats to improve my footnote. That's exactly what I wanted. -- FClef (Talk) 02:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Wikipedia page view statistics?[edit]

Hi all. Does anyone here know if it is possible to obtain page-view or search statistics for en.wikipedia.org? I'm interested in knowing how often ceratin articles are searched for and viewed. -Nicktalk 01:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

You may be interested in Wikipedia:Statistics -- Lost 05:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Better still, see Category:Wikipedia statistics for a longer list - Lost 06:11, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


will and grace rating[edit]

Im trying to find the ratings fro will and grace but i cant find them is there anyway I can find these ratings some how. a site maybe or somthin if u can help me id appericatie it. THANKCs

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost 06:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Disappearing page?[edit]

This isn't really a newbie's question, but I have no idea where else to put this, so I'll ask here. I recently moved Axum coinage to Aksumite currency, which went all fine and dandy (checked for double redirects and all that), but now for some very odd reason, a search for Aksumite currency doesn't retrieve Aksumite currency, but instead only two pages: Kingdom of Aksum and Harar. I'm at a loss as to how this could have happened, but I'd be greatly indebted to whomever can figure out what's wrong and fix it. — ዮም | (Yom) | TalkcontribsEthiopia 05:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, since a search for axum coinage gives a correct result, it just means the internal search engine's index hasn't reflected the change. When the developers run the appropriate script, it will get fixed. Don't worry, everything you did is all right. Titoxd(?!?) 05:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Maybe I should clarify. By recent I mean a little over 3 days ago. Surely the change should be reflected by now? I doubt it's anything I did, but it may reflect a problem in MediaWiki (unless delays this long are routine and expected). — ዮም | (Yom) | TalkcontribsEthiopia 05:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
You hit the nail on the head - delays this long are both routine and expected, as updating the index takes a while and is harsh on the servers, so it isn't done very often. Usually, the index is updated twice a week, but it isn't really out of the ordinary to have longer spans between updates. Titoxd(?!?) 05:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that info. Glad that's cleared up. — ዮም | (Yom) | TalkcontribsEthiopia 06:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Grave marking industry[edit]

To grave marking industry

With my article in wiki, I want to lay a foundation for conversations concerning this subject.

Because my dialogues on some details took place in at least five languages (Dutch, German, French, English, Spanish), my Internet site, founded in 1996 ( http://www.kleinmonument.be/) becomes too time-consuming. For this reason I choosed wiki-English, because English is a lingua franca, understood worldwide. I think that my English is not worse than that of the average Indonesian or Brazilian. Of course I do my best to optimiza my - basic - english.

My participation to wiki is the result of research that started in 1947. My accession as a wiki - user is final. I don’t intend to change rapidly my mind. If my contribution is rejected ten times, then I will come back eleven times ... Or isn’t wiki an open encyclopaedia?

Practically:

1. I appreciate very that Notinasnaid and Elkman have understood what I mean. I sit on the intersection of art and handicraft. For this reason a separate article is necessary.

2. After a test on Google with the two words "monumental mason" and "stonecutter", I think that "monumental mason" refers too much on large monuments.

3. My article is indeed but a beginning... I think that I have found my way now. The youngest state of the art makes that already clearer. In every way your criticism has been very useful to me.

4. I will not forget to make use of my sandbox.

For Arpingstone: Do you realise the humour: you first remove my “weird” contribution to an existing article, and now you advise me to contribute to an existing article?--Jaak Nijssen 12:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you need to take this discussion to the article's talk page. --Richardrj 12:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


email address confirmation link not working[edit]

I joined Wikipedia today and received an email to follow a link to confirm joining. This link does not work for me and I am unable to confirm my email address.--Heatherk 12:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Have you tried cutting and pasting it in your address bar instead of just clicking it? - 131.211.210.16 12:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

How to search content for square brackets in content?[edit]

How do I write a search string to match square brackets? According to WP:SEARCH, it seems I can just enter [1] and click Search to get all pages that have that string. That gives me no hits. I also tried putting it in various types of quotes--still nothing. I'm sure there are pages that do things like a literal [1] instead of using any of the template or cite.php citation features. I also tried Google as an external engine, but that searches the "outside" view of the pages, not the data as entered in the editor: I get all pages that use cite.php to automatically insert a ref hyperlink. How (if at all) can I do this search? DMacks 07:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

The search function uses prebuilt index files based on "words", and pretty much ignores non-alphabetic characters - so as far as I know there is no good way to search for arbitrary text strings including special characters (actually searching all articles for a given string rather than using a pre-built index would take a very, very long time as well). There might be some way to do this with an offline copy of the database. There's a list of folks who write tools that run against one offline copy available from m:toolserver. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Actor Chewetel Ejiofor[edit]

I want to add the pronunciation of Ejifor's name to his article. He is a good actor and I want to be able to talk about him with my friends. I found the pronunciation in another Google reference but I think it should be in Wikipedia. I've read the edit instructions and tried the sandbox, but I still don't know how to do this.----Taraza

Take a look at International Phonetic Alphabet. This is how pronunciations should be written in Wikipedia. --Schzmo 15:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


Tags[edit]

Hi! How do I tag an article as containing unreliable information? Is there a master list of all the 'tags' available at Wikipedia? Thanks! -- Byakuren 18:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi... Use the {{Not verified}}, {{Verify source}}, or {{Verify credibility}}. For the master list, go to Wikipedia:Template messages and see the many categories of such templates -- Lost 18:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks! -- Byakuren 18:34, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

School vanity?[edit]

Yesterday someone has spent a lot of effort adding names of staff and prefects to the article on their school King Edward VI Aston. As a contributor to the article I am not sure I can make an un-biased decision to boldly wield the eraser. Is there someone with experience in this who can tactfully sort this out (if it needs sorting)? It seems a shame to remove all that work. Thanks. Oosoom 05:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Its probably best to ask at Wikipedia:Wikiproject Schools -- Lost 06:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion. I've asked it there. Oosoom 09:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I have been bold and have removed the nn people. I also removed the lyrics to the school song, until such a time as their copyright status is determined. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:29, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Corporate Wiki[edit]

Could a company create a wiki for internal use so that new hires and interns can research and learn about a company while allowing the same editorial ethics encouraged by wikipedia? What all goes into creating a wiki? I know webspace is a pretty integral component.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmunden (talkcontribs)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost 18:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • b:Wiki Science:How to start a Wiki should be of help. Wikipedia makes use of the MediaWiki software which you can use to set up a wiki of your own. Unfortunately, I can't say what it would take to start one. Probably a lot of dedication. - Mgm|(talk) 22:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


S(s)tates[edit]

Not exactly a help desk question, I know, but should:

some States of the USA...

be:

some states of the USA...

where it's in the middle of a sentence? Guidance from Americans would be good. AndyJones 21:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

The latter. --Schzmo 21:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
"States" in the plural is capitalized in some uses by the government (e.g., in the official reports of the U.S. Supreme Court). The rest of us generally lowercase it and that's the style here as well. Newyorkbrad 00:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks for your help. Will apply it here. AndyJones 00:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
"some states of the United States" would be my preferred usage. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:31, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

July 15[edit]

Edits[edit]

Wow.... as nice as this site is, it seems difficult, step laden and VERY technical just to upload a photo with a credit. I can’t even use my HTML editor to make additions. It’s seems like you have your own odd sort of HTML hieroglyphics to create and edit a page or add a photo. I've tried those buttons above, and they don't use normal HTML to add photos and such.

Is this really as simple as you can make it? Or is it purposely difficult so as to keep the rift raft out?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mactographer (talkcontribs)

Hi,
Have you tried to Special:Upload page. If yes, then please explain the details of your problem. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, wikisyntax may look odd at first, but once you get used to it it's pretty simple. A good place to start is possibly Help:Editing, Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers, and Wikipedia:Introduction. Hope this helps, and welcome. TheJC (TalkContribsCount) 05:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hatnotes as in The Artful Dodger (UK band)[edit]

Can someone please have a look at the article and see whether there's a proper way to make the last sentence ("There was also a Power-Pop band in the 1970s named Artful Dodger, and there is also a punk band named The Artful Dodger.") a hatnote? Wikipedia:Hatnotes lists some examples on how to use hatnotes, but doesn't provide help on this case. If there's no way to do so just tell me that there isn't, any answer would be very much appreciated. Thank you. -- dreadlady 20:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

What you're looking for is a disambiguation notice. There's a number of templates that you can use that make creating disambiguation messages easier (for lists see here and here. In this case, given that (as far as I can tell) only Artful Dodger have an article you could probably use {{Otheruses4}} to create the message. To use the template you simply enter {{Otheruses4|what this article is about|what the other article is about|name of the other article}}. So {{Otheruses4|the British garage band|the American rock band|Artful Dodger (US band)}} would give you a message like this:
This page is about the British garage band. For the American rock band, see Artful Dodger (US band).
If the other band ever gets a page you can use {{Two other uses}} to link to both of them. Hope that helps. --Daduzi talk 09:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Lyrics[edit]

Is it totally illegal to put lyrics onto an article? Or is it OK to put them on as long as you credit the artist/source? ~Sushi 04:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Whenver required for critical commentary, a couple of lines may be added under the fair use clause. For songs whose copyright has expired the whole songs may be added. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • A few lines for critical commentary to illustrate the song is okay, but songs are copyrighted, so you can't include them as a whole, even when you give credit, unless its copyright has expired. Remember, it's copyrighted even if it's not explicitly said. In the US, stuff from before 1923 is generally in the public domain but there are exceptions. - Mgm|(talk) 09:29, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Need Clarification: External Links[edit]

Dear Wikipedia,

I just came across your website and it was interesting and quite amazing!! I am in progress to contribute my articles/contenmt/information to Wikipedia. But, I have some doubts,

1. How Should i prepare a content so that it is not removed by Wiki. 2. I gave internal and external links to Wiki, but it is accepting only internal links. Why?

It would be better if you kindly clarify my doubts.

Have a blissful day!!!

Warm Regards, Lisa

Hi Lisa. With regards to question 1, I usually use a Sandbox or a user sub-page before moving the page into the Article (main) namespace (and then asking for the cross-namespace redirect — that is, a redirect pointing from the old location to the new one — to be deleted). New articles should generally be not original research, verifiable, and have a Neutral point of view (if people have concerns, they would normally place a template on the article highlighting what could do with being improved. With external links, you can either add the link normally (e.g. http://www.microsoft.com gives http://www.microsoft.com, or use single brackets. In the latter example you can give a name to the link ([http://www.google.com Google] gives Google) or using no space gives a numbered link (e.g. [http://www.yahoo.com] gives [5]). Hope this helps, and there is some other information available at Help:Editing. TheJC (TalkContribsCount) 08:06, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Reporting Suspected Sockpuppet[edit]

How do I report a suspected sockpuppet of someone who has been banned? I noted on the discussion page next to the category page listing several other sockpuppets, but not sure if I should add (or how to do so correctly) to the category page. Thanks much. --NYTheaterHistorian 07:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi. If the user is currently vandalising, you could bring it up on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. For suspected sockpuppets, someone that is able to use the checkuser function is required. The page to post requests is available at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser. Hope this helps, TheJC (TalkContribsCount) 08:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks much for the fas response! Cheers --NYTheaterHistorian 08:21, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Sexual diseases[edit]

First want to say I am a gay man, just to put you in the picture.

Last nite I met a guy and things got hot as they do. Anyways after some fumbling, he got on top of me. I mean he lowered himself on my penis..and yes I had no protection on. I politely asked him to get off, and he did. I am just concerned that I have may have 'caught' some sexual disease.

I know it sounds a stupid question, I am just worried thats all.

Any help you would give me..would be appreciated.

j.

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost 12:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Please note that Wikipedia is only an encyclopedia. I suggest you receive help or advice from a qualified medical professional per our Medical disclaimer. Cheers, Tangotango 12:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • See a doctor, they will be able to do tests to see if you caught something. - Mgm|(talk) 18:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Palm Pilot[edit]

Can Wikipedia be downloaded to my Palm Pilot?

Yes, for more information see Wapedia and http://en.wapedia.org/. --Hetar 17:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Does cropping an existing image require Licensing again?[edit]

The article Cooling tower has a photo which is fairly tall. I want to crop it shorter by about 15% and then use the "Upload a new version of this file". The file was contributed by someone else and it is licensed as GNU FDL.

When I crop it and upload it as a new version of the file, must I select a license option again? Must I first delete the old version? Or what? Please let me know how to do it, step-by-step. Thanks, - mbeychok 17:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

If you use the upload a new version link, you don't need to supply any new copyright information, the old tag will still be applied. --Hetar 18:11, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • You are only allowed to alter an image if you license it under the GNU FDL yourself. Personally, I would keep both versions and give them different names. Anyone who does edits at WP:FPC does it that way and it allows people to use whatever image they like best. Deleting the old one is a big no no. You need to leave a nice paper trail to the original creator even if you upload it with the same name. - Mgm|(talk) 18:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Names[edit]

How do you look up names? I'm trying to look up someone who is a radio personality.I haven't seen his name. He ISN'T NATIONAL in scope,though he used to be for a while. Matt Alban. <removed email>--69.162.109.251 21:08, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Search for their full name. That's the name the article will be located if we have it. If we don't, I suggest you google it. - Mgm|(talk) 22:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


Order (algebra) Deletion confusion[edit]

I wish to delete the article Order (algebra). This is not a controversial delete (it is clearly a duplicate), and i have already discussed this with other users in the talk page. I was the main contributor, so there should be no big controversy and the useable data has already been merged into degree of a polynomial. The question is this: the proposed deletion template has already been used, and someone took it down without making a coment. It says specifically not to put it back up, but we don't think AfD is necessary. What is the best method for me to delete the article? Thanks, 48v 21:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • If content has been merged the history of the article needs to be retained. The article should either become a redirect to the article that contains the merged text or undergo a history merge. See Wikipedia:Merge. Personally, I think it's useful to keep a redirect regardless whether a history merge is performed. I'll try my new history merge tool on this as soon as I checked there's nothing complicated about it. -- Mgm|(talk) 22:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks very much. 48v 22:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


About creating a user-specific template[edit]

I wish to create a template that I would only use on my user page. It's the orange table on top of every page related to me, that has a link to every user page relevant to me. I'm fully aware of how to go about making said template, but is it allowed under the wikipedian rules?

The reason I'm asking is because it's a slight pain to go to every page and update it manually, when I could just go to the template page and change it, and it would automatically fix the template in all of my pages. --GUTTERTAHAH 22:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

This would not be allowed in the Template: namespace, but you can do it as a user page. Any page can be transcluded just like a template. So, if you were to create the template at User:GUTTERTAHAH/template, you would just put {{User:GUTTERTAHAH/template}} at the top of your pages. Hope this helps, and feel free to respond if you have any more questions. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 23:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, that helps a lot. That's all I need to know at the moment too; thanks. --GUTTERTAHAH 23:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

July 16[edit]

How to get the references small in an article?[edit]

See my question on the headline. Here the article: Learning by teaching.--Jeanpol 06:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm assuming you're talking about in the "Notes" section. Instead of just <references/>, you can choose to put <div class="references-small"><references/></div> . Hope this helps, and let us know if you're talking about something different than that. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 06:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank your very much. This was exactly my question!--Jeanpol 07:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


the topic in hindi[edit]

dear sir

i do not know how do i get the results of my topic in a particular language. i want to know how to find my topic in hindi as it will help me in my project.

yours faithfully, shyam

In the toolbar on the left side of your screen there is a section for other languages. If your article exists in another language wikipedia, you can usually get to it from here. Also, you might want to try browsing http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki. --Hetar 07:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Main Page[edit]

Just a random q :P

Who writes up the stuff for the main page, and when do they do it?


Thanks~--Deon555|talk 03:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Deon,
The editors of Wikipedia contribute the stuff that appears on the main page. Featured articles and featured pictures are discussed in detail for their worthiness and once certain, they are adopted as such. Some of the editors attach a summary to the article/picture and suggest it for the Main Page. It is then scheduled by a senior editor to appear on the Main Page. For information in "Did You Know" section and "In the News" sections, the process is less stringent as there are time limitations. After editors provide the summaries, any of the administrators puts it up for the Main Page. Hope I have been able to satisfy your doubts. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:24, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
You might be interested in the pages where the content is decided: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests, Template talk:Did you know, Template talk:In the news and Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries. Although the admins are the ones who do the actual updating, any user can get involved in submitting articles and giving their thoughts on other people's submissions. --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


questions regarding questionable facts[edit]

hello, my question is what does wikipedia do when dealing with facts that may not be completely concrete? And how much backing must a fact have to be posted in an article?

142.161.238.53 19:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

If an editor sees an unsubstantiated fact, they can add the {{subst:fact}} template after it, which indicates the fact has not yet been substantiated. As to the backing needed, see here. EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 20:06, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Or they can just remove it. In the case of claims about living persons that could be damaging to them, we remove it immediately and then discuss it. In less urgent cases the claim is sometimes left in (marked as Evocative says) while it is discussed. Any section which is tagged with {{fact}} should be removed once it's become clear that a source can't be found. --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:22, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikify[edit]

On the autorotation page, some technical details need added. Somebody decided to throw them in on the top just, which isn't exactly vandalism, it just needs wikified - thereby creating another, smaller problem. Anyone know where you get one of those signs, for the top? Can you please respond to my talk, if it isn't rude for me to say this. If it is, remove this sentence. ta--martianlostinspace 09:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Answered on his talk page. - Mgm|(talk) 11:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

this topic is closed, and has now been answered. (Thanks mgm) --martianlostinspace 16:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


Suggestion[edit]

I would suggest you to add the AUM (OM) audio chant under the Hindu religon. Currently only text references are mentioned / available. In the Vedas (Huinduism), the chants are available under the section "external links".

I searched for the sound / audio file of ancient Hindu symbol OM on internet. But I couldn't find free download samples.

Your promptness would be highly appreciated.

Thanks & Regards, -Mahesh.

Hi, there is a project called Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism in which various members are actively engaged. You may like to pose this on the talk page of that project. You will get a better response there -- Lost 19:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


Can't figure out what I did wrong on footnote[edit]

Could someone take a look at the footnote in the article on Cannon Beach, OR and tell me what I did wrong. When I click on it, it doesn't go anywhere. What is wrong.

Also, I feel that the Gambling in the United States article should be more easily found by somebody searching "gambling." Yes, when you get to the bottom of the article on "gambling" there is a link, but it is not listed in the "gambling" category, and I cannot figure how to add it.

Thanks, thanks

Tim —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tesint (talkcontribs) 18:52, 16 July 2006

The footnote works for me. I added the category that you asked for, and put the "Gambling in <country>" categories inside the "Gambling" category, although some might argue that I have overdone the linking. --Heron 19:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
(after edit conflict) OK, I've just fixed footnote in the Cannon Beach, Oregon article. Look here to check what I changed in this article. You can read more about footnotes here. I've also just added Category:Gambling to the article on Gambling. Jacek Kendysz 19:13, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


How to write an article??[edit]

How to write an article??

Hi, its very easy... See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Also please see your talk page -- Lost 19:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Minor edit 'what's this link[edit]

Hi is there anyway to change the way the "what's this?" link for minor edits on edit pages so that it opens up Help:minor edit in a new window, or at least spatially move it away from the show preview button on the page? If rather than saving your edits and then checking it in the article and having to go back and do multiple edits, you use the show preview button, but accidentally click the what's this? link, you lose every edit that you made on that page since you last clicked show preview. I have done this a number of times after spending between 5 and 20 minutes re-writing or editing pages, and while I'm probably alot more prone than some people I imagine it is a problem that happens quite a bit. JenLouise 00:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

What browser are you using? In Firefox, when I click the 'back' button to go back to an editing window that I haven't saved yet, everything I've done in the edit window is as it is when I left it.
It's a while since I used it to edit Wikipedia, but perhaps you're using Internet Explorer? If I remember correctly it might refuse to let you go back to the edit window once you've clicked 'save preview', because it counts it as a form that's already been submitted and therefore not something you'd want to look at again. There's techinical reasons for this, and they are "IE sucks", "IE sucks" and "IE sucks", in that order. --Sam Blanning(talk) 00:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
(Alternate solution)I myself face the problem of losing edits often, especially due to edit conflicts. After a lot of heartburn, I have found the best thing to do is to save your edits in shorter intervals so the info lost may not be as much. This may not be the solution you are looking for but does work for me -- Lost 02:06, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Depending on the time of day, my internet connection can get a bit flaky, and so I've long since taken to the habit of copying to the clipboard the text to the article I'd editing before clicking the "save" button - that way, should something go wrong, I can re-input it without too much trouble. For really long articles or if I'm making a lot of changes, I'll even save a copy as a text file on my desktop - it only takes a second and has saved me many headaches in the past. — QuantumEleven 06:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
All I know is that I use IE, and there has never been such a problem for me - Clicking "Back" always shows all my text right where I put it. Lost: You do know that when an edit conflict occurs, there is a second edit box where your version of the article appears, so you can integrate your changes into the current article, right? In tougher cases, checking the diff of the new edits shouldn't make the integration such a problem. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 08:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Another tip is to make sure to preview regularly, that way if you do accidentally go off the page (and I've done it myself), when you return the contents of the edit box will be whatever you last previewed rather than the original text. --Daduzi talk 22:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)


So I assume that the answer is: getting changes to the actual layout of wikipedia is nigh on impossible. Thanks Daduzi, I hadn't realised it saved it, that's the best one can I do I suppose. (And yes its true, I use internet explorer!) JenLouise 05:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


eminems address[edit]

im an 11 year old kid who is a big fan of eminem and i want to write him a letter

Try the talk page of Eminem. They may get you to some fansites -- Lost 07:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • You can't usually write celebrities at home. Your best bet is to find an address for his agent or record label. - Mgm|(talk) 23:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


Question about IP addresses[edit]

If you happen to make an edit while you are not logged in, is there any way to remove the IP address and maybe also display the change under your own address? I assume not, but thought it worth asking.

What measures can be taken to prevent this in the future? Would it be possible to change the background colour so that you get a visible cue that you are no longer logged in? Filur 13:59, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

There is no way of reattributing posts nor to change the background colour when logged out. You can however change the "skin" in your user preferences which would change the way things look when logged in, or a more advanced option change your monobook.css to change specific elements when you are logged in to give you a stronger visual hint than the current "Login/Create an account" at the top of the screen. --pgk(talk) 14:26, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Actually, one used to be able to reattribute an edit at Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit, however, the requests are currently on indefinite hiatus. You can still list your request there in case they start processing changes again. — Reinyday, 15:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Despite the name, I don't remember developers ever doing the job for single edits. It was particularly useful for reattributing multiple edits. The method was quite laborious and simply too much work to do for a single edit. If you want to attribute an article, simple link the edit's diff on your talk page. If you forgot to sign (here for example), just sign in and add a note like "forgot to sign" with your signature. - Mgm|(talk) 23:04, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


Use of reference points[edit]

I am noticing in the article about Ohio Stadium that, rather than printing the references at the bottom, it is simply ending the article, thus also cutting off all notes that should be below that point as well. Anyone know why? It's not the first time I've seen this happen; I've tried entering references using the < ref > tags, and the same has happened. ToddC4176

It is ok now. There was a template in the external links section which I removed. Please check -- Lost 20:09, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Every occurrence of <ref> needs a matching </ref>. If you forget the "close ref" the software thinks everything to the end of the article is the reference. See Wikipedia:Footnotes. (I've added the missing one at Ohio Stadium). -- Rick Block (talk) 20:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Rick is right. I have reverted myself -- Lost 20:16, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


movetowiktionary[edit]

Didn't there used to be a template called movetowiktionary to put on articles which a user considers more appropriate for Wiktionary than here? I can't find it. How do we propose moves now? User:Zoe|(talk) 20:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

There is, it's called {{Move to Wiktionary}}. Hope this helps, TheJC (TalkContribsCount) 20:48, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, duh. Thanks.  :) User:Zoe|(talk) 21:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


Sources[edit]

I'm trying to cite sources for the history section of Bainbridge Township, Geauga County, Ohio. If the sources come from the same section on the same website, do I have to provide a source for each sentence? And what would be the best way to cite the sources? On Wikipedia:Cite Sources it says there are three ways to do it. 71.31.148.225 21:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Most people prefer in-line references in the form of <ref>[http://www.source.com/page Source's page article] (accessed 16/07/06) and then adding <references /> in the references section. If there are large sections of text that's been copied from a website, it's best to ensure that that it complies with Wikipedia:Copyrights or can be used as Wikipedia:Fair use - if the block of text is copyrighted, WP:COPYREQ has some useful information on requesting that the text can be used under the GFDL. If a lot of the section is from the same webpage, you may want to add something like ''This article incorporates text from [http://www.somewebsite.com/sample_page Some Website's Sample Page]'' to the references section. Hope this is the answer you was after, TheJC (TalkContribsCount) 21:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
The section isn't copied from the website, it just uses it as a source. 69.40.246.126 23:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


Userboxes[edit]

How do you get userboxes on your userpage? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandgeek100 (talkcontribs) 22:15, 16 July 2006

Check Wikipedia:Userboxes. Jacek Kendysz 22:24, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
For example: If you went to Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia you would copy/paste the one that you want on your user page. FellowWikipedian 22:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)


creating to do lists[edit]

I'm trying to become a major contributor to the occupational therapy page, and I'd like to create a to do list in the talk page to organize things in a better fashion. How do I do this? Thanks!--aishel 01:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

If the list is for you to use, then put in on your user page. If you'd like to provide it to all, then add a section in the talk page "the + tab by edit this page" and use *s by each line to make things that look
  • like
  • this, creating a list.

If you want to have a numbered list, use #s

  1. first thing
  2. second thing

Good luck! --Wslack 01:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I should rephrase my question. I've seen elsewhere, for example here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2006_Israel-Lebanon_crisis that there's a pending task table. That's what I want to make. Thanks again! --aishel 01:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi aishel. There is a template {{Todo priority}} (the preferred one over {{todo}}) which you can use. Simply put the template near the top of the talk page, save the page, and then click on the edit link in the todo template. There is an example of using it at Category:To do, by priority, and there's an example of it in use at Talk:SpyAxe. Hope this helps, TheJC (TalkContribsCount) 01:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, this is what I was looking for! For some reason I couldn't find it when I was looking through the template lists. --aishel 01:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the template lists, however it is listed in the {{Resources for collaboration}} template under "To-do lists", and there's a further example of better organising to-do lists at Wikipedia:To-do list. Good luck, TheJC (TalkContribsCount) 01:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


Deleting from AFD[edit]

What is the proper procedure for dealing with a user who removes an entry from an AFD log and marks it as minor to (presumably) prevent an article's deletion? Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PinStack --Brian G 04:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd recommend a polite talk message explaining that delisting the afd was a no-no. If you like, there's always {{Drmafd}}, which you can place on their user talk page, followed in the event of repeat offenses by Drmafd2, 3, 4, and referral to AIV. You can find other user warning templates here. Hope that helps. Cheers! Luna Santin 05:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


digital photography[edit]

Is there a question or just a test?—WAvegetarian(talk) 06:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

'My bad'[edit]

What's this 'my bad'? I've never come across it anywhere else except Wikipedia, so I assume it's another one of those in-phrases here. If so, how did it originate? It seems to mean 'my mistake' or 'mea culpa', so why don't people just use one of those commonly accepted phrases instead? --Richardrj 09:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to know this one too:) -- Lost 09:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
So would I - but meanwhile, how about the trusty old Elizabethan standby: "Fie, for shame!" -- FClef (Talk) 10:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I think this is one for the language reference desk. All I can say is that it's not a WP in-joke. It's been used outside WP quite a bit. - Mgm|(talk) 12:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
You're quite right. See here. I ignored the first rule of WP help desk - search first. My bad. --Richardrj 12:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
All terms that are uniquely used within Wikipedia (and "My bad" is not one that is missing, i.e. it's used outside of wikidom) should be in the glossary, see Wikipedia:Glossary. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Urban Dictionary defines the term, but it doesn't explain that it's an Americanism. I hear Americans use it all the time, but Britishers would never use it. I'd like to know whether it's used in other Anglophone countries, though. --Heron 19:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
We are seeing a word change before our very eyes from adjective to noun or perhaps both, c.f. "gay". Tyrenius 07:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually I'm a Britisher and I use it, and know others who do. For what it's worth the first instance I can remember haring the term was on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air --Daduzi talk 08:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


Self promoting user?[edit]

So, there's this user, Mike8bit who has spent his entire Wikipedia career editing the Angry Nintendo Nerd. He's also added the line "This game was reviewed by The Angry Nintendo Nerd" line to other articles. Seeing as the Angry Nintendo Nerd site has ads, I'm tempted to think that the user is the author promoting himself. Catch is, I'm new here, and I don't know what to do at this point, except get into a possible revert war with said tagline in otehr articles while the article is up for deletion.

Is there a particular person/page to bother about this? I don't think he's a new user that needs help, and I've looked at the Vanity article, but it didn't answer my question. Thanks! Wslack 23:56, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

The article has been nominated for deletion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angry Nintendo Nerd. If it is deleted, the references should clearly go as well. I think the references should go anyway. I notice you haven't brought this up at User talk:Mike8bit. The first step in any sort of dispute here is to talk the user involved, please see Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, those references should go regardless of the article's outcome at AFD. A review by the New York Times doesn't belong there, so a random internet user's review isn't relevant enough to mention either, 0 Mgm|(talk) 10:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

July 17[edit]

do i get information about public and corporate communications[edit]

      information about public relations and corporate communications
Wikipedia is not a search engine. If you have a question about public relations or corporate communications you might try asking it at the Wikipedia:Reference desk.—WAvegetarian(talk) 09:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


Printing Wikipedia Articles[edit]

I am an eployee of a large IT company. We have a number of promoters working from the market selling our products. However, not all of them are technically adequate to present information on our products. I am in the process of developing manuals for them which we will distribute to our promoters and possibly other employees which explain the various technologies involved in our products as well as general history of our company.

I have used Wikipedia for a long time now to look up information out of curiousity. However, I would like to include certain articles on Wikipedia for our manual. My question is, are we allowed to distribute a manual with our company's logo which include articles taken directly from Wikipedia? What are the conditions of doing so?

Sure you can. The articles of Wikipedia are licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. Read it to find out how you can reproduce the articles under the GFDL license. In short, it says that you have to attribute the work to Wikipedia and include a copy of the GFDL License. If you publish printed copies (or copies in media that commonly have printed covers) of the Document, numbering more than 100, and the Document's license notice requires Cover Texts, you must enclose the copies in covers that carry, clearly and legibly, all these Cover Texts: Front-Cover Texts on the front cover, and Back-Cover Texts on the back cover. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 12:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Your company probably has a legal department. It would be best to contact them for specific legal advice (which is what you're asking for). All that you need to know about specific Wikipedia content is that all of the text is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. Your company lawyers can tell you what that means for incorporation into your documentation. Note also, though, that images on Wikipedia may or may not be freely available. A large proportion of WP images are copyrighted and used here only through the doctrine of fair use. Such images would not be able to be included in your documentation; again, your lawyers can help you navigate the sticky wicket that is copyright law. Powers 13:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Copyrights#Users' rights and obligations discusses this a bit.--Commander Keane 13:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

missing words[edit]

good day

I have 2 queries:

1. I looked up the word 'enzootic' anmd the result came up with various deseases etc, but the actual word with a discription never came up. So I have subsequently found it and the meanign is as follows: of animal diseases, peculiar to or constantly present in a locality.

I see that epizootic is featured in your results.

2. I did once register and create an account but I cannot remember the password or login, should I recreate my account or would you be able to send me my passwork?

Thank you, Regards, Cristine

You are more likely to get meanings of words at the wiktionary. Regarding the second query, if you have forgotten both the login and password, its better you recreate an account - Lost 11:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
One way to perhaps find your account again is to check the history of articles you edited. Notinasnaid 14:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


[Untitled Query][edit]

hello,

I have just put a page up on wikipedia Kitchen Con: Writing on the Restaurant Racket by Trevor White, which is a new book out.

Yet when I put just kitchen con or with trevor white it does not bring me to the entry.

Can you tell me how to change it so the book comes up when people look it up.

Thanks a lot,

(This unsigned query from User:ValKitchenCon) (Link to new article: Kitchen Con: Writing on the Restaurant Racket : The book) Notinasnaid 14:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Email address removed to prevent poster receiving spam, ham, jam and other foodstuffs. EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 14:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
First, I'm not at all certain Kitchen Con: Writing on the Restaurant Racket : The book won't be deleted, see the (currently proposed) guideline Wikipedia:Notability (books) and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (specifically the section titled "Wikipedia is not a soapbox"). Directly answering your question, the search index is rebuilt only occasionally so it may take some time (perhaps weeks). You can add one or more wikipedia:redirects that will take effect immediately. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


Downloadable List of All Article Titles[edit]

A few months ago I downloaded a (long) list of all Wikipedia article titles, for some offline analysis that I'm interested in. I'd like to download that list again, but I can't seem to find it. Is it still available?

Thanks

WGMarsh

Hello Mr. Marsh,
The latest listing can be downloaded from here. For more details see Wikipedia:Database download. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
The specific file you are interested in is this. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


How do I search wikipedia:*[edit]

Is there a way to search the Wikipedia Community pages? (i.e. those that begin with "wikipedia:") Alf Boggis 15:46, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi,
When you search for something not found in Wikipedia articles, you are led to the search page. At the bottom, you will see an option to search specific namespaces (Wikipedia:, Talk:, User talk:, etc). Alternatively, you can use google search to search Wikipedia, which will give results from all pages. Just append "site:en.wikipedia.org" to the search string. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


Earliest to Latest by default?[edit]

Howdy. I've been thinking for a while about the possibility of porting versions of articles from early in the article history across to the Simple English Wikipedia, since the older versions are typically a lot more basic and written in a simpler form. While I know it's easy enough to click "earliest" on the history tab, is there any way to set it to do that by default? Maybe something in Preferences that I missed, or a line of code to add to my Monobook.js? GeeJo (t)(c) • 17:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I wonder whether any such option exists. But I don't agree about the earlier versions having simpler English. It is article, as well as user, specific. In order to have correct and updated information, it is advisable to copyedit and use the latest version. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, I just use the early version as a starting point. It's a lot easier to convert this into an easy-to-understand article (rewording to use the Basic 800 and cutting out the heavy anti-Microsoft bias towards the end) than it is to convert this for example. GeeJo (t)(c) • 17:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


bulls and bears[edit]

how do I access the transcripts from your bulls and bears segments? George Sepp

  • Which transcripts do you mean? Which segments? Could you give an example page? Notinasnaid 18:37, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

July 18[edit]

Adding footnotes to an article with existing references[edit]

Hello. If you add footnotes to an article do the existing ones re-number themselves accordingly, or do you have to go through and alter the numbers of the other references? -- FClef (Talk) 00:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

If you're talking about <ref> ... </ref> style footnotes (per Wikipedia:Footnotes), they should re-number automatically. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:02, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes I am, I think. I also need to add the reference to the list of references as well as make the footnote consistent with the article's style. Thanks for encouragement. -- FClef (Talk) 02:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Why My articles showing "For Deletion"[edit]

Hello I made 2 articles in AntiVirus secion.

Namelly - eScan and MicroWorld.

Today I find that they mark as "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy"

- why?

can you help in this case........

Someone thought they should be deleted. There is probably a big blue link to a discussion about it. This will probablly say more about why.—WAvegetarian(talk) 06:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
The two articles violate WP:NPOV because they read like an advertisement. You can argue your case at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EScan but don't expect to garner much suppor. Remember that in addition to being written in a neutral point of view, they must meet notability criteria outlined at WP:CORP.--Max Talk (add) 05:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Antlion Family Myrmeleontidae[edit]

Do antlions in there larval atage have eyes and if so where are they?

Do antlions have eyes? If so where are they?

This desk answers questions about Wikipedia. You will need to ask your questions at the Reference desk, they might be able to help you over there.This question was modified to make answering easier and to take up less space. --Ali K 04:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


del or change any present article[edit]

can i delete some article in "community portal " or make changes to it so i can upload a newer article ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aasoobila (talkcontribs)

Hi,
First, please be very sure as to what you expect to do as the Wikipedia namespace is often associated with policies of Wikipedia. However, as with any other pages in Wikipedia, they too can be created, modified, or deleted by the editors. But most changes to policy pages should be first discussed with the community before changing. You are welcome to create new articles, people often write essays on Wikipedia, but make sure that they carry a generalised viewpoint that is supported by the Wikipedia community. Those pages that are not considered worthy of Wikipedia namespace are deleted by listing on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. If you find any delete-worthy pages, you can nominate them for deletion on this page. However, I would suggest you take some more time to understand the working of Wikipedia before actually doing so. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


first level headings[edit]

I googled why =first level headings= aren't used and got this result, which stated that page titles are first level headings. However, we don't input page numbers by typing in "=Page Title=", and therefore first level heading markup symbols are never used, so shouldn't we just free up the "first level heading" symbols by making them designate the second level headings, and then shift each of the othe headings down? JianLi 06:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't see the pressing need to make such a large change like that;

Contents[edit]

Is there a way to move the Contents to the right or in the middle? --User:Jou46 18:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

None I know of, and I doubt if there is any. This is most likely hard-coded in the MediaWiki software, and unlikely to be changed according to a user's wish. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:42, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Assuming you mean the Table of Contents, you can move it to the right by placing {{TOCright}} at the top of the document. There are two ways of centering a TOC. The cheap way to do it is to use <center>__TOC__</center>. However, the <center> tag is deprecated in HTML 4.01, so the modern way to do it would be to use <div class="center">__TOC__</div>.--Max Talk (add) 18:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Oops, I was thinking the question was about the navigations tabs of the left of the screen. Anyway, thanks for updating the answer. BTW, other "cleaner" ways of moving the TOC also exist: like {{TOCcenter}}, etc. All such options may be found at Category:TOC templates. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
You can change the location of the navigation links. Go to "My preferences" and click on "Quickbar". Of course, this only works if you're logged in. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help --Jou46 18:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

  • ??????? What's the use of that? It only means you have to type more. Why deprecate useful stuff? - Mgm|(talk) 19:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
    The W3C has deprecated all presentation tags in HTML in favor of their CSS style equivalents. The point is to cleanly separate presentation information (font, alignment, etc.) from document structure tags (heading levels, list elements, etc.). The premise is that if all HTML documents only used CSS for control of presentation, the world would be a better place. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I think what Rick means is that it's SCIENCE, and harder = better. Right? --Sam Blanning(talk) 08:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Infobox person[edit]

Is there an infobox for a person? Rather than a celebrity. Djsteen 06:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Checkout Category:People infobox templates. --Hetar 06:32, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Not that I know of. People who get an article are notable or famous in some way, so regular people aren't included and don't need boxes. - Mgm|(talk) 11:06, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Is it true that one shouldn't delete material from one's user talk page?[edit]

Is it true that one shouldn't delete material from one's user talk page, at least where that material isn't offensive or doesn't constitute vandalism? If so, and a user removes material I've placed there, do I have a "right" to put it back? Thanks in advance! (Part of what was erase was, in fact, a warning that someone should stop violated Manual of Style guidelines.) --Cultural Freedom 2006-07-18 08:27 (UTC)

Removing warnings is vandalism - generally in such cases, the message should be replaced with a warning (generic ones can be found at {{wr}}, {{wr2}} etc), or if that's too strong you can gently direct them to WP:TALK#Etiquette. "Having a right" is not the term I'd use, but putting your post back would certainly be justified. --Sam Blanning(talk) 08:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response! (Yes, "having a right" was a bit... legalistic....) --Cultural Freedom 2006-07-18 08:46 (UTC)

help please[edit]

I trying to find all the miniuma prisons in illinois.... I would like the name of the prisons... Thanks

This desk deals with questions on Wikipedia and how to use it. You may find that you get more responses over at the Reference desk, where editors answer general knowledge questions. Good luck! GeeJo (t)(c) • 02:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Help me, please[edit]

I am having trouble posting my article...so far it shows up under "my talk". I want to post a page with the heading of the name of the company that I am writing about. Can you help me figure this out, please? Thanks. JB.

It looks like you want to write an article about a company called JK Harris. Its fairly simple to write an article. Please see: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. But please go through the policies and guidelines of wikipedia first. Especially WP:SPAM and WP:Notability in this case. -- Lost 14:24, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Assigning my actions to myself[edit]

When editing or adding comments to Wikipedia from public computers, I don't log in to my account because of cookies and privacy concerns. Instead, I four-tilde to show whatever IP address the machine uses.

It's now starting to get a bit hard for me to keep track of pages which interest me, or discussions which I plan to follow. Therefore, I'd like to know if there is a way I can go back and reassign these comments to my personal account.

I realize that it's possible to reassign unsigned anon entries, but what I'd like to assign are IP-signed entries.

I did try to find the answer to this question in the Help section, but was unable to (probably due to my using inadequate keywords).

Thank you for your time. :) 83.132.98.149 14:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello 83.132.98.149, there is currently no way that I know of of reassigning comments. You can still sign comments with your signiture without logging in by having the code pasted on your talk page for retreval User:Whatever. You can also keep track of what you want to look at by leaving it on your talk page for addition to your watchlist. Those are my suggestions. --Wslack 15:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions, Wslack. While it is a shame that I can't reassign my schtuff, those seem like pretty satisfactory solutions! :) 83.132.98.149 16:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually, one used to be able to reattribute an edit at Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit, however, the requests are currently on indefinite hiatus. You can still list your request there in case they start processing changes again. — Reinyday, 19:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Law of Cosines Image[edit]

Figure 1 includes the following:

"This image (or all images in this article or category) should be recreated using vector graphics as an SVG file. This has several advantages; see Commons:Images for cleanup for more information. If an SVG form of this image is already available, please upload it. After uploading an SVG, replace this template with template {{SupersededSVG}} in this image"

I have created this file - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/TriangleWithNotations.svg

Despite looking through template help, I have no idea how to "replace this template with template..."

Dweisman 16:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Mr. Weisman,
As I can figure out from my experience, the problem is that the image is hosted in commons and you are trying to update the enwiki page. To change the image description page in commons, you need to edit the page at commons. Here is the link to the required page. It will be advisable if you upload the image at commons so that all sister projects can use the image. I also see that you haven't specified the copyright tag. Please do it as soon as possible otherwise the image may be deleted. If you need help in determining the right license, you may contact me at my talk page, or any editors here. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Userspace links[edit]

Moved from Wikipedia talk:Help desk

I created my own watchlist User:TonyTheTiger/watchlist so that I can monitor related changes. Most of the links don't seem to work. Why? TonyTheTiger 15:42, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

This seems more as if it belongs on the Help Desk itself...? Notinasnaid 15:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • You have an invisible character in your links, so "Five-tool_player" is actually "%E2%80%8EFive-tool_player". I'll fix it for you. — Reinyday, 16:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks. That solved everything. TonyTheTiger 18:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User:User[edit]

Is this a doppelganger account?--Quentin Smith 08:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Nope, it's a redirect. There is no such user really. Also note, they have zero contributions Dismas|(talk) 09:06, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Well yes, but to be fair somewhere around 75% of Wikipedia accounts have never made an edit (including our millionth account); which is the main impetus behind the proposal to delete them. GeeJo (t)(c) • 14:42, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
There is such a user, actually, otherwise you wouldn't see the contributions link at all. It's true, however, that they've never edited, though. Curiously, though, they haven't been blocked either, so presumably whoever created the account could still decide to use it some day, if they haven't forgotten the password. For what it's worth, the deletion log for the user page says it was "created by accident". Not sure if that refers to the account or just to the page, though. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 20:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Deletion of userpage[edit]

Can you viably speedy a userpage if there is no associated user? I can't see anything in WP:CSD. --Quentin Smith 19:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

You can speedy delete your own userpage, not someone else's. — Reinyday, 20:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, userpages that do not have an attached user, violate the purpose userpages are designed for. There is a few exceptions. Some users have redirected alternative usernames to their own userpage and some userpages contain info on vandal nicknames who didn't actually use those names. Usually the pages you mention violate another one of the speedy criteria. If in doubt, just use WP:MFD. - Mgm|(talk) 21:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Policy[edit]

Many have asked about external links to copyvio sites, and we seemed to have established they are not acceptable.

My questions are;

  1. Where is this in policy?
  2. If a user does this, is there a warning template to add?

--Quentin Smith 19:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • If it's not in WP:EL or WP:SPAM, it doesn't exist. We're not responsible for the copyvios of other sites, but if you can find an original rather than a copy. Link to the original. - Mgm|(talk) 21:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
At WP:EL it is stated that: "Linking to copyrighted works is usually not a problem, as long as you have made a reasonable effort to determine that the page in question is not violating someone else's copyright. If it is, please do not link to the page." (emphasis suplied)--Fuhghettaboutit 22:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


free admition .[edit]

respected sir, i want free study applecation form in any university of sweden, but pls in ENGLISH. thx urs truly , saleem ,

  • You're going to have to ask those universities yourself. No one here can sen you any such forms because we're an encyclopedia and we don't have access to them. (side note: while there's less of them, there's also respected ladies around here). - Mgm|(talk) 21:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Redundant Articles[edit]

List of universities in Canada is split into sections by province. However, Some of them link to 'main article' pages which have exactly the same information. Should I put those articles up for deletion? Foxjwill 21:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I would just redirect them back to the full list. There's no need for a 'main article' if it doesn't contain more information. - Mgm|(talk) 21:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)


Video animation question[edit]

Hello! I work at a company that makes video animations dealing with the aerospace industry. We have contributed videos to various news organizations on current events such as missle and shuttle launches. We are interested in contributing these videos and images to Wikipedia, I just wanted to make sure this was within the rules of the webpage. All videos and images produced have a small company logo similar to a television station logo. We have many videos of the recent shuttle launch, the North Korean's Taepodong-2 missle, and many different current space missions.

Is this something that we can do? Thanks! --Coolblue33 21:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC) Coolblue33

Replied on user's talk page. EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME


Maps[edit]

How do you create the green country maps with yellow location dots on them? In fact, where can I create the maps that are commonly used in wikipedia (world maps, etc)? Xtrememachineuk 20:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

The folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps may have some tips. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

July 19[edit]

pirates, my new page[edit]

I'm new at this, and am having trouble kick-starting my pirates page.

I have alot of questions.

1.) How do I split the page into sections, or even create the contents table?

If even that question alone could be answered, it would help me alot.

Thank you, and you will porbably hear from me often, with my questions and concerns.

BlackTangledHeart 00:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello BlackTanglesHeart: There is already on article on pirates at Piracy. Please go there to add your information, but also read:
And remember:

Inreagard to your question, you make sections with the code

Symbols in Warning templates[edit]

Stop hand.svg

This is the only warning you will receive. Your recent vandalism to [[:{{{1}}}]] was profoundly malicious. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.


What is the purpose of the "[[:{{{1}}}]]" Obviously, it's supposed to be replaced with a hyperlink. But what's the purpose of the colon and the brackets? JianLi 05:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

some of help desk screen shots

It has to do with the way templates work. The template you've just mentioned is {{test4im-n}}; if you use it, you need to reference it to a particular article by typing something to the effect of {{test4im-n|Wikipedia}} (try previewing it to see what happens!). Otherwise, you can use {{test4im}}, or see a list of user talk page warnings here. Note that you should always use the subst: prefix with warning templates. Feel free to let me know if you need anything else. Luna Santin 05:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. Actually, I did in fact put this on the page using "{{subst:test4im-n}}", so I understand how these templates work. I'm just wondering what the significance of the default text :{{{1}}} is. JianLi 05:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

The {{{1}}} is the article name parameter. So, {{subst:test4im-n|Foo}} results in
Stop hand.svg

This is the only warning you will receive. Your recent vandalism to Foo was profoundly malicious. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

The reason for the brackets is so that there's no need to manually add brackets to the article name parameter, so you can just use {{test4im-n|Foo}} rather than {{test4im-n|[[Foo]]}}. The colon is so that if the edit was to a page which is usually shown rather than linked when added inside brackets (for example an image page) then you get the link rather than the shown contents (if you want to show a link to an image you have to use [[:Image:Foo.foo]] rather than [[Image:Foo.foo]]). To make things a little clearer, if there wasn't a colon {{subst:test4im-n|Image:Stop hand.svg}} would result in:
Stop hand.svg

This is the only warning you will receive. Your recent vandalism to Stop hand.svg was profoundly malicious. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

With the colon you get
Stop hand.svg

This is the only warning you will receive. Your recent vandalism to Image:Stop hand.svg was profoundly malicious. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

I hope I made things clear, though I'm not sure I explained it as well as I could have done. --Daduzi talk 05:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Ahh okay, thanks. That was very helpful. So if a regular article is used, it would still be [[:article]] with the colon. But that works as if it were [[article]], because I guess the people who made the wiki language foresaw this kind of situation happening. So you explained the square brackets and the colon. But what about the squiggly brackets, {{{, around the "1"? Are they just ornamental?JianLi 06:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

The triple squigglies are parameters, in templates. Let's take {{unsigned}} as an example. Supposing I use {{unsigned|Luna Santin}}, the section after the pipe is now a parameter; using {{{PARAMETER-NAME}}} in a template inserts the text of the variable. Since the parameter in this example isn't given a name, it's treated as "1," so in the case of {{unsigned|Luna Santin}}, the {{{1}}} in the template's code (have a look here) will insert "Luna Santin," giving us:
Make sense? Help:Templates will have more information, if you like. Luna Santin 06:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
In other words: 1 without the triple braces ("squiggly brackets") would be just the digit 1. {{{1}}} is the first parameter given to the template. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 08:42, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmm...still a little confused...so what's the significance of the parameter being six squigglies and a 1? Would it have worked just as well making the parameter a {1} ? JianLi 21:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
No. The syntax to refer to a parameter is three open squiggles, parameter name, and three close squiggles. The squiggles aren't part of the name, they're the syntax cue that says "this is a parameter". Two squiggles were already used for template references. One is taken as a literal squiggle character (no special meaning, just the character). -- Rick Block (talk) 00:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, ok, gotcha. Thanks everyone! JianLi 03:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


your web page[edit]

About one week ago your web page suddenly ceased to display frames and all I get is the classical ugly html serial display. My browser is Firefox 1.5 on Windows XP Professional.

  • You're going to have to be more specific, as far as I know the Wikipedia site never loaded any frames. - Mgm|(talk) 04:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Bio's........[edit]

I'm a DJ/Hip Hop producer & recording artists. How can I add my Bio/info to your website for people to have access/info about me. Thank you.

DJ Lord Ron

To add any article is simple. See Wikipedia:Your first article for more info. Please be aware that Wikipedia has notability guidelines for musicians and vanity pages are discouraged. -- Scientizzle 00:31, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
... and autobiographical articles are particularly discouraged, see Wikipedia:Autobiography. -- Rick Block (talk) 02:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


I would like to know ....[edit]

hello -

I would like to know if i want a information about the companies, not particular about the history rather working and related companies.

where do i find? I know this site is not for search companies but i thought it is 'wikipedia' then it must have data related above my queries.

thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.17.93.26 (talkcontribs) .

I'm not sure if I understand your question. If you're looking for a specific company, try using the search function, or see if you can find it in the appropriate section of Category:Companies. If neither of those helps you, could you be a little more specific about what you're looking for? Either way, good luck. Luna Santin 05:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Squad Box Template[edit]

I would like to add a squad box template to all the Chamois Niortais FC players, for easier navigation like some other teams, but dont know how to create one?

If you dont know how to create a template, then you can request one at Wikipedia:Requested templates -- Lost 11:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
From your post it sounds like the template you want already exists. Try going to the page which has the template you want, click 'edit', and find the code for the template - if it's a transcluded template you'll see something like {{squadbox}} in there. If it's got curly brackets round it, it's a transcluded template, and the code (and, possibly, instructions for using it) can be found at Template:Squadbox (replacing 'squadbox' with whatever it's actually called).
It's difficult to give you better information without knowing exactly which template you're talking about. Which articles were you referring to by "some other teams"? --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
I want to create this type of box↓ but with different players
You're in luck, recently a few of us at WikiProject Football created a set of templates that make creating squad boxes easier. The documentation is at Template talk:football squad2 start. Hopefully that should be enough to explain how to set it up but if you have any questions feel free to ask me here or on my talk page. --Daduzi talk 17:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


GNU for pictures[edit]

I have found some images on a website that I would like to post on Wikipedia, and I'm a little confused about how to obtain the rights to them. Can I just e-mail the GNU lisence agreement to the current copyright holder and have them fill it out electronically, then send it back to me, with the images attached? Or is there physical paperwork involved? I've searched the help pages but it's still unclear to me. Please send me a short explanation of the process. Many thanks!! Medora 12:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It may be optimistic to think that the site owner will give that permission, including all rights to any commercial use of the pictures without a fee. Do they say that they will give away their rights in return for a request? Notinasnaid 12:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission explains the process. Basically you just send them an email, then they email you back the permission (which needs to be releasing the image under a free licence like {{GFDL}}). You then paste their reply on the image description page and email the letter to address it says to at the link I gave so we have a record. That's my hazy idea, the link is more reliable.--Commander Keane 13:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
To be honest, the Creative Commons licenses are much more useful for tagging images, since they don't require a huge text to accompany offline versions. They're also significantly easier to understand, and by/by-sa are fully acceptable both on Wikipedia and Commons. GeeJo (t)(c) • 14:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, that all makes sense, but...what address? I couldn't find anything on the link pointing to an adress that I should send the reply to if creator gives permission to use his/her images. Thanks again! Medora 19:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

It's there, immediately under the heading "When permission is confirmed". Notinasnaid 19:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Template question[edit]

Is there a template for "This section appears to contain information that is of little importance or notability", or similar? I can't see one on the templates page. If there isn't, perhaps there should be... BenC7 03:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

{{notability}} and {{importance}} might be of some help. --JD[don't talk|email] 03:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmm. Thanks, but neither of those are specific to a particular section of an article. BenC7 12:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Help![edit]

Labas! My wife is from Lithuania and I am an American. She is legal and a sworn American citizen also. We intend to soon move back permently to Lithuania to be with her family.

   I am sure I will need your services from the encyclopedia in Lithuanian.
    I am studying Lithuanian from a text book, and my wife is helping me.
    Please inform me how to log into your web site.  I tried but had problems.
    Sincerely,
    John F. Mantia
There should be a link at the top-right corner of the page, that'll say "Sign-in/Register account" or something to that effect. Go for it. Luna Santin 05:27, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


om[edit]

can i register the word "om" as trade mark in india? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.17.163.30 (talkcontribs) .

Not the right place to ask this question, sorry. We mainly deal with questions relating to the use, browsing, and editing of Wikipedia. You might consider Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities, but I'm not entirely sure if they'll be able to help you, either. Good luck. Luna Santin 08:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Road bicycle racer infobox[edit]

I made a Road bicycle racer infobox for Tadej Valjavec. Because he has not won any professional race yet, I want to change Major wins (look e.g. Jan Ullrich infobox) to Best results but I don`t know how. I would appreciate a lot if someone could help me.

Thanks a lot

Virenque 11:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

You can't add fields to the infobox without changing the template itself, and that's fairly complicated. The best bet might be to suggest adding a "best results" field to the template at Template talk:Road bicycle racer infobox. --Daduzi talk 13:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Question on "Wikipedia:Neutral point of view" --> "Undue weight"[edit]

in article "Wikipedia:Neutral point of view" --> "Undue weight" is written:

"Articles that compare views need not give minority views as much or as detailed a description as more popular views, and may not include tiny-minority views at all (by example, the article on the Earth only very briefly refers to the Flat Earth theory, a view of a distinct minority). We should not attempt to represent a dispute as if a view held by a small minority deserved as much attention as a majority view, and views that are held by a tiny minority should not be represented except in articles devoted to those views. To give undue weight to a significant-minority view, or to include a tiny-minority view, might be misleading as to the shape of the dispute. Wikipedia aims to present competing views in proportion to their representation among experts on the subject, or among the concerned parties. This applies not only to article text, but to images, external links, categories, and all other material as well. Undue weight applies to more than just viewpoints. Just as giving undue weight to a viewpoint is not neutral, so is giving undue weight to other verifiable and sourced statements. An article should not give undue weight to any aspects of the subject, but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to its significance to the subject. Note that undue weight can be given in several ways, including, but not limited to, depth of detail, quantity of text, prominence of placement, and juxtaposition of statements."


My Question : what do you mean by "popular views" and majority? for example if in one of the wikipedia languages, one view is the most popular and the other views are minority views, but in the whole world other views are majority, which view must be the most detailed one?--Seraj 12:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

in other words, in one of the languages of wikipedia, the viewpoints(majority, minority) of people speaking that language must be presented, or the viewpoints of all the people of the world?

I'd say these terms are deliberately undefined so that any disagreement can be settled using common sense rather than diktat. Each Wikipedia is governed by a consensus of its own editors, who may introduce cultural bias, though they aren't supposed to. Notinasnaid 12:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Adding content about companies[edit]

Hi,

I work in a company which is over 10 years old and has established itself with several major clients like Nokia Siemens, etc... I have seen that Wikipedia is immensely useful in finding out information about companies and people who influence the future. There are numerous companies about which there is a wealth of data, about their practices, their clients etc. There are also several prominent people who work with our company who are significant enough in their field of work to be included here, considering that a lot of trivial (but relevant)information is found in Wikipedia.

My question is : as an established, above the board, company with a product portfolio used by lots of people, and a significant web presence(verifiable) is it fine to have a page dedicated to the company?

My concern is that attempting to do that without getting an approval from you guys would lead to misunderstanding of the addition of content.

Thanks and Regards, Ps: regardless of the possibility of addition of content,wikipedia has been very useful in finding information for us and thats why we felt a presence here would be good for us.

You should read our guidelines on inclusion of articles on companies. The most typical criteria are inclusion in stock market indices, such as the FTSE 100, and received reliable, third-party, non-trivial coverage (i.e. articles which explictly focus on the company - not just passing mentions, rentaquotes from the MD, etc).
Even apart from that, writing about yourself is generally discouraged. If your company is really notable enough, someone who doesn't work for it will be interested enough to write an article about it. --Sam Blanning(talk) 12:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


chemistry[edit]

why ph of a solution doesnt goes more than 14?

  • Because pH=-log[H3O+]. pH is partly defined by the ionization constant of water. The fact this has an exponent of -14 means the result of the formula can't get over 14. See pH. Please ask further questions like this at the reference desk. - Mgm|(talk) 13:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
The pH of a solution may exceed 14, given that molarity of [OH] ions in it exceeds 1 M. This is very strong and is not practically found, though superbases have pH exceeding 14. For more such questions, please refer to Reference desk for better and quicker solution to your querries. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Because in any aqueous solution (with one or two exceptions), there is far more water than there is solute: the acidity of the bulk solution is governed by the minimum acidity of water, not that of the solute. This is a simplified response, you may get more luck at WP:RD/S. Physchim62 (talk) 13:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


microbiology[edit]

can anyone say how to culture thermophiles(bacteria)?and one more ....how ozone used in water purifiers....by psg tech muthu 2nd biotech

  • You culture those bacteria like any other. Just make sure you put them in the right temperature. As for the other question, see water purifier and ozone. - Mgm|(talk) 13:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


visit[edit]

I want to visist H M Patel Medical Institute, How to visit? I am from chennai, Tamil Nadu...Please give the route for train. thanks

  • Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. - Mgm|(talk) 15:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Key word search[edit]

How would I be able to associate certain key words to my page when someone types in a search? Food Safety Network 14:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • You don't. Pages on wikipedia can only be searched by their title and the words contained in their text. We don't use keywords as in regular webpages. - Mgm|(talk) 15:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Namespaces for search[edit]

When I search for something, there's a search form at the bottom of the search results that allows me to select which namespaces should be searched. Is there a way for me to get to this advanced search form without having to type something in the search box and scroll down to the end of the results? —Bkell (talk) 14:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Multi-NS searchIlmari Karonen (talk) 15:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Backhanded way to propose deletion?[edit]

This user is using a strange template for proposing deletion, rather than creating a proper AfD. I've mentioned this on his talk page, but I'm curious...why does this template exist? It completely avoids both the speedy deletion and the AfD process, in favour of one user's belief that it deserves deletion and a 5 day waiting period, without any attempt at reaching consensus. Unless I'm missing something? --Kickstart70-T-C 15:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Proposed deletion is policy. It's linked to from that template. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah, ok. Not sure I like that, per my points above. In any case, I removed it from the article I was involved with, as per the contesting directions. --Kickstart70-T-C 15:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


GNFDL /copyright question[edit]

I'm having difficulties understanding the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). How would I attain one since I want to postinformation from my already published web-site. Food Safety Network 18:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

If this is only text, this is not usually necessary. Very few outside sites write in encyclopedia style. Since it will be necessary to reword any material, this means the new work is not covered by the old copyright. What you submit then automatically gets released under a license for anyone to use for any purpose. Or is it pictures? Notinasnaid 18:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

My post was taken off for copyright reasons. So I'm assuming I need to get a GFDL license. And the information is text, not pictures. Food Safety Network 18:14, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I suspect you would find that if you solved the copyright reason, the article (which I haven't seen, of course) would be immediately marked for deletion or rewrite for its writing style. Copyright always wins, but that isn't the only issue. So, you should be rewriting the text. (You may disagree, of course, and you might be right with regard to your site. If you want to post the URL of a page with some text on it that you would wish to reuse, then we may be able to suggest something one way or the other. But going to the lengths of releasing your text under a license, when it is only to be rewritten, may just be a waste of your time.) Notinasnaid 18:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • You don't need to obtain a license, you need to make sure the text is freely available and that others are allowed to copy it (even for commercial purposes). If you haven't written the text yourself, you are not allowed to make that decision; you need to ask the copyright owner to release the work under the GFDL (I'm pretty sure the article has a link to the specific text of the GFDL) and explain to them what it means. You can never copy any material from books, websites or any other source. Unless otherwise stated, they are copyrighted and copying them would be illegal. Based on your username and your previous questions, though, I suspect your work was removed for violating WP:SPAM or WP:NOT with regard to advertising. - Mgm|(talk) 19:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


new question[edit]

can mute swan cygnets 8 weeks old survive without both parents--81.159.75.91 18:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)<removed email>

  • Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. - Mgm|(talk) 19:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Create article[edit]

How do you create a artical on wikipedia?


Too early to start a page?[edit]

I have a page that I've developed in my userspace (here) that I am eventually wanted to create. As you can see, it will track college football ratings through the season. There is a link to another discussion page on the subject but I'd thought I'd ask here to get outside opinion. Preseason polls are usually released in early August (last year, the first was released August 5). When would be an appropriate time to create this article? I am wanting to leave time for others to edit the opening text and add links and make other modifications before population of the table begins.--NMajdantalk 20:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

One or two weeks before the polls are released sounds good to me. Nice page! --Liface 20:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)



Executions[edit]

Where can I find information on methods of executions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.12.38.115 (talkcontribs) 23:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC).

See List of methods of capital punishment. In the future, you might want to ask your factual question at the Reference Desk. tiZom(2¢) 00:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

July 20[edit]

Last Jewish Pope[edit]

Who was the last Pope that was a Jew?

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost 16:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
No, this question is obviously a bad joke. There is no need to bother the refdesk too with it. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 17:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Meni, just a comment. Jesus was Jewish and at the dawn of Christianity, many followers of Jesus believed that practicing Judaism was part of following the teachings of Jesus. Eventually the church decided that people did not need to be Jewish in order to follow the teachings of Jesus, so after that, few people were Christians who practiced Judaism. The revival of this idea is seen with the Jews for Jesus. — Reinyday, 18:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Not sure it's that funny a joke. The answer[6] is either Saint Peter or Antipope Anacletus II . Notinasnaid 18:13, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Well guys, sorry for striking and unstriking myself but I am obviously ignorant of the topic in question -- Lost 18:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
It is an interesting question. The thing is that the church did not have a centralized hierarchy until it became the official religion of the Roman Empire and even then there were 5 patriarchs of the church. Eventually the patriarch of Rome acquired power as he was in the midst of everything in the church and became the big bully on the block. The patriarch of the province of Antioch seated in Constantinople disagreed with the centralization of power and thus was created Orthodox Christianity.
So to answer your question there never was a “Last Jewish Pope” because there never was a first because by the time the office was created Christians had split from the Jews. Unless at some time in history a Jew converted to Christianity and became pope (not likely).
Note: Saint Peter is not considered a “pope” per say though he did found the Roman Catholic Church the office was created much later.
I’ll fetch u some links later. --SvenGodo 18:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
"doctrinal differences developed between the Church in the Eastern and Western Roman Empire that ultimately led to the Great Schism in 1054, dividing Chalcedonian Christianity into Western Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy." Eastern Orthodox
"It is generally accepted amongst most Catholic and non-Catholic historians that the institution of the papacy with all associated authorities and practices did not arise immediately with the traditional arrival of Peter in Rome c. 50. Most historians hold that instead the institution evolved gradually over the first millennium of the Christian era. In fact it was not until the year 1073 that the word "Pope" came to denote the meaning that it conveys today, when applied to the Bishop of Rome." Pope#Early history

--SvenGodo 03:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


Question about image use[edit]

I would like to add some images to the University of Puget Sound article. I go here and I noticed they had a digital collection of historic images online. Since I work in the library at this school, I went and asked the person in charge if I could use some of the articles in Wikipedia. She gave me permission. Do I now have permission to upload the images, and what do I tag them with? Here is their Image Use Policies. Also, what's the guideline with pictures so old that they are in the public domain? --Liface 20:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately the policy is that Wikipedia-only permission is insufficient for free use here, since the Wikipedia content is freely licensed and so can be, and is, used by many other sites and distributers. You can tag the image as {{withpermission}} (provided you show some evidence of the permission), but the image must also be tagged with some fair use tag, so that other distrubuters know whether they can use it or not, and it's limited by the fair use policy. A better bet would be to contact the person again and ask if it would be OK to license the images using one of the free licenses (GFDL or Creative Commons are the typical ones). If they give permission then the images can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and used in any Wiki project. It'd probably be a good idea to get them to forward the permission to permissions@wikimedia.org while you're at it. Commons:Email templates has a useful template you can get them to agree to. --Daduzi talk 20:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
What about, for example, the third image on this page with the first graduating class from UPS in 1891. Does this qualify as public domain? Should I tag it with template:PD-US? --Liface 20:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Read here: Public_domain#United_States_law--NMajdantalk 21:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
So the photo was taken in 1891, but I assume it was never published. If we don't know how long the photographer lived (the article says life of author+70 years), I'm guessing it's just better to assume it's not public domain? --Liface 21:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
That's probably the safest approach. Unless it's clearly impossible that the author died less than 70 years ago (if, say, the work was created in the 18th century) then it's best to assume it's still protected unless it can be confirmed it's not. --Daduzi talk 07:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

How legit is Answers.com?[edit]

For future references for articles, can I use Answers.com? Is it a good source? I've found unique information on that site (about Captain Falcon) however its information is an official site page that no longer exist. Respond on my talk page. Thank you. FullMetal Falcon 02:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Answers.com is a Wikipedia mirror - that is, the information you find on it is in large part from a (possibly outdated) version of Wikipedia. So no, you can't use it as a source. According to our own article it uses information from other sources as well, but you should go directly to those sources rather than Answers.com. --Sam Blanning(talk) 09:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


Can't set column width[edit]

I am trying to create a simple table with two even-width columns. For some reason, the table turns out thus:

Comparison of mainstream Christian and corresponding controversial Jehovah’s Witness beliefs
Mainstream Christian belief Corresponding Jehovah’s Witness belief
God has revealed himself as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are one God. (Trinitarianism) Only the Father (Jehovah) is God[1]. (Unitarianism)
Jesus (the Son) is God in the flesh. Jesus is a god, even a "mighty god", but not God.[2]
The Holy Spirit is a person of the Trinity, and is personal. The Holy Spirit is God’s impersonal, "active force".[3]
The human soul is eternal and does not cease to exist at any time. The soul ceases to exist when a person dies.[4]
Immediately following death, there is afterlife in the spirit. There is no afterlife following death and preceding resurrection.[5]
Hell is a literal place of eternal torment. Since there is no afterlife, there is no eternal torment.[6]
Jesus’ body was resurrected. Jesus’ body was not resurrected. [7]
At the resurrection, people will be judged by what they did during their lives on earth. Those who are resurrected to life on earth will be judged by future deeds which they will perform during the millennial reign. [8]
The 144,000 (referred to in the Book of Revelation) will be taken from people of the tribes of Israel. The 144,000 will be taken from "spiritual Israel" (i.e., Jehovah’s Witnesses). [9]
The gospel to be preached today is that there is salvation available through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. The gospel to be preached today is mainly that the Kingdom of God was invisibly established in 1914. [10]
All Christians are born again and will thus spend eternity with God. Only 144,000 believers are to be born again and will thus spend eternity in heaven with God. [11]
One cannot see God’s kingdom or enter into it without being born again. Those who are not born again have only an "earthly hope" and no need to be born again. [12]
To be saved, a person must believe in Jesus Christ. To be saved, a person must believe in Jesus Christ, [13] dedicate himself to Jehovah, [14] recognize the Watchtower Society as God’s organization, [15] and conduct his life in accordance with the teachings of the Watchtower Society. [16]
Jesus’ redemptive work alone is sufficient for the justification of a believer. Christ’s redemptive work alone is not sufficient for the justification of a believer. [17]
The return of Christ to the earth has not yet occurred. The return of Christ occurred invisibly in 1914. [18]

...even though I have specified the width for each column as 350px. Any help would be appreciated. BenC7 07:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

The first column's style was set at width=”350”, when it should be width="350" - note the different quote marks, the software wasn't recognising the slanted ones. I've corrected it - is that what you were looking for? --Sam Blanning(talk) 09:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I think so. I just opened the page in Firefox, and it appears to have worked there. But viewing it in IE, the second column just goes all the way to the edge of the browser window. Has anyone hit this issue before? BenC7 10:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Same here. I'm not sure why it is, but one workaround would be to use percentage instead of absolute widths. Just now in IE I changed the overall width of the above table to 70%, and the columns to 50% each. That will hopefully work in both Firefox and IE (after I save this edit I have to check it in Firefox), and will also keep the widths constant no matter what resolution the reader uses. --Sam Blanning(talk) 10:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that worked better. Thanks very much for that. BenC7 10:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


Transclusion[edit]

Hello! This may be a silly question, but here goes: does transclusion only work for things in the Template namespace? I know that if I type {{furball}}, I will get the contents of Template:Furball displayed. If there any way to transclude things from the Wikipedia or Article namespaces? A reading through Wikipedia:Template namespace (which covers transclusion) didn't seem to answer my question...

Thanks in advance! — QuantumEleven 08:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

You can transclude any non-mainspace page by typing, for example, {{Wikipedia:Help desk}}. Many pages use this technique, most obviously the current AfD logs (e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2006_July_20), which transclude each individual log. Go to that page, click 'edit' at the top (not a section edit, as that will edit the transcluded page) and you'll see all the transcluded pages.
Mainspace articles can be transcluded by sticking a colon at the beginning, e.g. {{:Cat}} will transclude Cat. Though I don't know why you'd want to. --Sam Blanning(talk) 09:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Aha - that's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks, Sam! I didn't really have a specific use in mind, I was just curious. — QuantumEleven 10:29, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

External link locator[edit]

About 5 days I found a tool that allowed you to search for articles that used a particular domain in it for external links (kinda like a "what links here" for external sources). It was a good tool, but I can't locate it (mostly because I don't remember where I found it or what it's called). Does anyone know where to find it? I want to use it because I wasn't able to update all the links I wanted to the other day and want to finish it. If someone could point me to it, it'd be much appreciated. Metros232 19:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

  • My question is probably related to this. I once found a list of all tools on one of the toolservers, but unfortunately I can't find it anymore. Were is that list located. I know it was off-wiki. - Mgm|(talk) 19:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Don't know exactly what you're referring to, but you can try here: WP:TOOLS --NMajdantalk 21:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Toolserver is an external site that hosts, well, tools created by tech-savvy people to make querying and editing Wikipedia easier. - Mgm|(talk) 21:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Metros, you're looking for the unlinkspammer. Ran across it by accident after finding what I was looking for. - Mgm|(talk) 21:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • For others: Toolserver. — Reinyday, 23:19, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


New article does not show up on search[edit]

Hey all,

I wrote an article on Drugs for Neglected Diseases Initiative. It shows up when you type it in exactly as the article title or when you click on one of the links I inserted, but not otherwise. How can I fix this?

Amit0108 08:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia's search index updates quite slowly. Google's updates a lot faster, and is often the better option for searches on Wikipedia. --Sam Blanning(talk) 09:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
And if you create a wikipedia:redirect from Drugs For Neglected Diseases Initiative, if you type the title in the search box (any any mixture of upper and lower case letters) and press "go" you'll get to the article. -- Rick Block (talk) 15:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


user page[edit]

what for a user page is and what should be there in that?plss tell me im new to this place

Every registered user has the option of a user page. You don't have to have a user page at all, but some people use it to describe what they specialise in or any special skills that help with the encyclopedia. Some people do use it as a personal page for info not related to the encyclopedia, but that is not really what it is for. Some people seem to manage to spend all of their time working on a pretty user page rather than actually editing the articles in the encyclopedia. My advice is to create a user page only when it seems useful to you, perhaps later in your editing career. Here is a tip for you though: when you add to this page, or a talk page, but NOT an article, be sure to sign your message. That way, people understand who is participating in a discussion. You can do this by just typing ~~~~ which is what I did after this- Notinasnaid 09:28, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

thk u very much actually i answer many of science questions and always sign them .i din think the user page was tht important..thts the reason i dint create it till now my aim is just to edit stubs and answer questions more related to psychology,medicine and life sciences--hima 16:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC)hima


Renaming a Rename[edit]

There was a pretty obscure baseball article on Average and Over (hands lost). I mistakenly renamed it to Average and Over, not realizing that there is a related and also obscure article on Average and Over (Runs).

I want to fix my mistake, but I don't know how to do it. The article currently named Average and Over should be renamed Average and Over (Hands Lost) with the latter two words capitalized, to keep it parallel to Average and Over (Runs).

There are a couple of links to each of these articles; everything is related to 19th century baseball.

HELP!!!! Lou Sander 13:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Excuse my complete baseball an cricket ignorance, but why would these words need to be capitalized? - Mgm|(talk) 14:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, both titles should be uncapitalized. I've made the necessary moves (there was no problem; what gave you difficulties?). However, in my completely uninformed opinion, the articles should be merged and cleaned up. No need for two articles for such small and closely related topics. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 14:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


I want to start an article but i have little info is it worth it?[edit]

I was on the blackpool page (my home town) and i saw winter gardens in red so i clicked it and found i could add my own information.. is it worth starting it when i dont know much about it.

Lombers 14:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

It is indeed very easy to start an article. However, please go through WP:Notability to understand this guideline. If the topic is notable enough, then someone else will surely add info to it in the future. After all, that is the spirit of wikipedia. Also you may like to go through Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost 15:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Lost gave you good advice. I have some specific advice for this particular case. If you create the new article, you will want to add a link to the new article to the disambiguation page Winter Garden, and probably tag the new article with a stub template. You may also want to consider a more specific title for the new article, such as Winter Gardens Blackpool or Winter Gardens & Opera House. Powers 15:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


WIKIPEDIA ACCOUNT[edit]

DOES IT COST MONEY TO CREATE A WIKIPEDIA ACCOUNT?

It doesn't cost you anything, no. Notinasnaid 17:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


distance learning phd in theology in the UK[edit]

I would like to know if i can have a list of universities ans seminaries that affer phds in theology in the UK by distance learning80.87.86.31

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. -- Lost 19:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia policy regarding strong language[edit]

Please forgive me if this is answered in the FAQ section, but I cannot find it. What is wikipedia's policy on strong language in your articles? For example, I added an item to the Bono (U2) article, referring to his "fuck the revolution" speech. Another user then changed this to "---- the revolution". I am of the opinion that strong language shoud be justifiable in the interest of accuracy.

Thankyou,

Machisto12. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Macphisto12 (talkcontribs) .

See also the guideline Wikipedia:Profanity. To quote "profanity should either appear in its full form or not at all; words should never be bowdlerized by replacing letters". Garion96 (talk) 21:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

July 21

How to set up a wiki for a website[edit]

Hi, how are you?

I am not PC Lit so I may sound a little stupid.

How do I go about setting up my own wiki for a webiste I am involved with.

Thanks Beth

Please see Wikibooks:Wiki Science:How to start a Wiki. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

How do I find "cite page", for example.[edit]

I can see examples of "cite page" in the page I'm editing, but I can't find out how to search Wikipedia Style Manuals, etc., for the full description of "cite page", or things like "cite paper", "cite serial", ... that I would assume exist. Rwwww 03:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

You need to go to WP:Citing Sources to see how to cite sources -- Lost 03:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
More specifically see Wikipedia:Citing sources/example style -- Lost 03:44, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


New article[edit]

I want to know how to create a new article, not to edit someother´s one. Is this possible? Thanks, Babarmando

Hi, its very easy... See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost 05:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


editing the title of the article on Jive Aces[edit]

Hi - I know how to edit the article on Jive Aces, but the title reads "Jive aces". How do I edit the title so it reads, "Jive Aces"?

WP:VFAQ#How_do_I_change_the_name_of_an_article.3F--Commander Keane 06:54, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I need to Re-Add 3 Templates, I Accidentally Erased! As I Edited a Show.[edit]

What Steps are required to redraw A Wikipedia Template? 63x927is58401.

Do you know which template you deleted? I don't see a deleted template on that page. Here is a link for others to check: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_The_Dick_Van_Dyke_Show_episodes&diff=64649156&oldid=59969280 --NMajdantalk 00:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
  • By comparing the article before and after your edits, it does not appear that any tempates are missing. Please note that we do not sign articles in the Wikipedia. Thanks for your work to improve the page! — Reinyday, 18:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


inappropriate comments[edit]

I was browsing around in the reference desk and noticed some inappropriate comments there of a possibly sexual nature. What is the proper procedure when this happens? Do I notify someone? Should I say to the commenter that I think his comments are inappropriate and completely irrelevant to the discussion (which they were) and should be removed? I've never removed someone else's work before (except once with a lot of advance notice, by placing it on the associated discussion page), so I'm a little nervous about doing that. Any guidance someone could give me would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Lynne Jorgensen 02:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Would you mind showing the exact location of this comment please? ~Kylu (u|t) 02:32, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
(edit conflict} Hi, be bold and go ahead with removing any inappropriate comments. At the same time, be sure that the comments really are inappropriate otherwise it sometimes also lead to edit warring. You can of course always notify an admin at WP:AN/I -- Lost 02:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I would strongly suggest talking to the poster rather than removing their comments. Interfering with other people's comments is an extreme breach of wiki etiquette if not justified (because it's very easy to do and can be very damaging). Wikipedia is not censored for the protection of minors, and editors may be offended if you remove their comments as 'inappropriate', especially as the Reference Desks are very high-traffic and consequently replacing a comment can be annoying, as your edit can't simply be reverted unless caught very early. --Sam Blanning(talk) 15:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


transparent[edit]

I checked the image pages for the images at the top of the help desk, and they seem to be unaltered. Why are they no longer transparent? - Mgm|(talk) 10:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you using Internet Explorer? I don't think it supports transparancy on any PNG images. —Mets501 (talk) 13:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
It did until now, and I have the same problem with Firefox. Apparently it only works on the white background it used to have which has now been reinstated. - Mgm|(talk) 13:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I put the white background back. —Mets501 (talk) 14:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Can you always get from one Wikipedia article to another in less than 10 clicks?[edit]

If you open up Wikipedia in two browser windows, press "random acticle" in both, is it always possible to get from one acticle to the other in less than 10 mouse clicks and using only links on the main page? e.g One window shows "Dunlop cheese" and one window shows "Peril at End House" (by Agatha Christie)

Dunlop cheese > Scotland > England > Author > Lists of writers > List of mystery writers > Agatha Christie > Peril at End House

I think it's always possible, can anybody prove me wrong?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.100.193.18 (talkcontribs) 15:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

There is in fact a nice tool at http://tools.wikimedia.de/sixdeg/ by river that lets you figure out the nearest path from one article to another. However, it doesn't seem to be working at the moment. You can be proven wrong, though - orphaned pages, which are pages which are not linked from any other pages, will not have links to them, so unless you start at one of them, you can't use them as a node in your trail. - Tangotango 15:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Special:Lonelypages (orphaned pages).--Commander Keane 15:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Redirect[edit]

How do I undo a redirect? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Globalhealth (talkcontribs) 15:17, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you mean you want to move a page back? As long as the destination article in question doesn't have any other edits, it is possible to move a page over a redirect to itself. However, you'll have to be specific - which redirect do you want to undo? - Tangotango 15:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I would like to disable the redirect from "Reproductive Health" to "Human Sexuality." I feel it warrents its own page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Globalhealth (talkcontribs) 15:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
If you'd like to create a page at Reproductive health, then just go to that page, and when you get redirected, look for the bit at the top of the page where it says '(Redirected from Reproductive health). Click where it says 'reproductive health', which will be bluelinked, and you'll go to the page without being redirected. Then just edit that, delete the #REDIRECT [[Human sexuality]] code, and create an article as you would any other. --Sam Blanning(talk) 15:46, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


town clerk[edit]

who is the town clerk for the town clerk for the town of willing?

connie moultrup —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.75.202.102 (talkcontribs) 15:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. --Sam Blanning(talk) 15:48, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


New Entry[edit]

How do you create a new entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Shannon wb (talkcontribs)

You've successfully made a new entry on this page. To create a new article why not see Wikipedia:Tutorial.
-=# Amos E Wolfe talk #=- 15:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Or, more specifically, Wikipedia:Your first article. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 16:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Peer review[edit]

Hi, I would like to know what happens if there is a certain select group of editors here who are specifically involved with the Wikipedia:Peer review process. For instance, if I ask for a peer review of an article concerning a rather obscure subject, will there still be at least a few editors who will definitely get involved to verify the work? Thank you. DragonRouge 16:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

  • You can always contact people you think will be interested. - Mgm|(talk) 17:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Inclusion problems[edit]

(cross-posted from village pump (technical), where I got no answer -- in fact, which was pretty much deserted.)

My monobook file (see history) was getting unwieldy, so I decided using includes would be useful. It appeared to work at first after refreshing and purging each change, but near the end, I suddenly started losing the purge tag and extra edit buttons. What am I doing wrong? - Mgm|(talk) 15:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


adding external link[edit]

i am not terribly computer savvy - but i would like to add an external link to the Meisner Technique. could someone walk me through the process?

Please see Wikipedia:External links. It covers not only what to link to but also how to link. -- Lost 18:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


adding an item to wikipedia[edit]

How do I go about adding a subject in any capacity to wikipedia?

See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost 19:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Adding column to table[edit]

List of individuals executed in Texas needs a column in the table for the number of executions (like List of individuals executed in Virginia). I have tried Microsoft Notebook and Works and cannot get it to substitute "returns". Is there any simple way to do this? I tried manually adding it on Wikipedia but it kept disappearing (I would add the first 50 or so by hand and then the whole text disappeared.) Rmhermen 17:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I added a column. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Rmhermen 20:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Aaron Burr, the Revolutionary War years[edit]

I'm an historian. Making a few corrections and additions to Burr's career. A couple have appeared where they belong, but I'm having trouble with the consistancy in transfering the changes into the text. Sometimes I do it, sometimes I can't - and sometimes the text I've put in dissapears. ??? Help? Bruno.

You used {{ to set off parenthetical text. Double curly brackets are a Wikicode which inserts a template into the article. Since there is no template with the name of your text, it shows up oddly. Usually we use single parentheses where required. Rmhermen 20:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Odd glitch?[edit]

Anyone mind taking a look at this user page? Several editors appeared to have added text which doesn't appear in normal view but is still present in "edit"!

Thanks.

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 21:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

This is because of the database problems that occured early/mid moring today (UTC). Similar things happened all over the project.—WAvegetarian(talk) 21:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind, I misunderstood the problem. I have no idea but I'm looking into it further. —WAvegetarian(talk) 22:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Someone removed the closing > from a <!-- comment. It's fixed now.—WAvegetarian(talk) 22:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
ROTFLMAO! Check history for the joke.—WAvegetarian(talk)

July 22

Protection[edit]

How do I protect my User page from being edited? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.235.66.52 (talkcontribs) .

If you really do mean your user page, please see Wikipedia:Requests for page protection (although this would be considered highly unusual — unless there is some extraordinary circumstance I doubt such a request would be honored). If you're uncomfortable discussing the issue here feel free to email me or any other admin. -- Rick Block (talk) 02:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


User Page[edit]

How do I create a user page, and why would I want one?--Salvax 03:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Please see user page. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


About Editing[edit]

Hi I am new to this site. I understand that this site enables one to edit the information available on the website. I would like to know "How do you prevent some one to put "wrong" or 'unreliable' or 'unauthentic' data on the website. Thank You.Srinivaschirala 07:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I have answered your query above. Please see it. In case you are referring to a particular article, please let us know -- Lost 07:36, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

About Editing[edit]

Sir, I am new to this site What i understand is that anyone can edit inforamtion on the site. What i would like to know is "how do you prevent someone from putting 'wrong'information on the site.". Thank You

Srinivas

Any information added to Wikipedia is iterative. If a user enters wrong information, it is reverted by other editors who would have the page on their watchlist or are recent change patrollers. If a user keeps adding wrong info, he/she may get WP:Blocked by an WP:Administrator after warnings. If you see any wrong information in any article, please feel free to correct it yourself. -- Lost 07:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
This is one of the common objections to Wikipedia - however, in practice, it works very well on high-profile articles (which are watched by dozens of users simultaneously), and moderately well on more obscure ones, as Lost pointed out. You can read more about it at replies to common objections. — QuantumEleven 09:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Possible spam query[edit]

Hi - new enough to be unsure whether it is spam or to know what it's best to do so sorry if this is the wrong way/place. Yesterday virtually all UK national parks pages had a link placed in them to a website dealing with accomodation for the area. All edits were from an IP address from which this seems to me the only activity. Spam? Looking forward to learning - thanks --Nigel 07:32, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Our policy regarding external links can be found here. The propriety of a specific link on a specific page can be determined through discussion leading to consensus on the talk page of the article in question. —WAvegetarian(talk) 07:39, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I guess I think it isn't really useful to the pages concerned and will put something on the talk page --Nigel 07:58, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
You might also find the information at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam useful, and if you really hate Spam you could always sign up with them. --Daduzi talk 11:55, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Taking Back A Barnstar[edit]

I awarded a Barnstar to a user only to have this user behave, within a short period of time, in a terrily inappropriate manner, completely oppposite of behavior that I believed merited a barn star,and that behavior has persisted despite my several cordial attempt to warn him, etc. Can I take back a barnstar? Ptmccain 19:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Copied from Wikipedia talk: Help desk. — QuantumEleven 09:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

  • I've never seen it happen before, but since you gave it, I think you are allowed to take it back, unless said behavior is an edit war you are also part of. - Mgm|(talk) 10:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Rydberg constant[edit]

"Bohr's condition,

2πr = nλ where

n is some integer r is the radius of some atom "

I didn't write this myself, I don't contribute much to maths articles. Instead it was an anonymous friend who "can't be bothered" to ask the question. The <math>...</math> tags are around this formula, but it isn't big like the rest. Why is this so? Can someone please fix this? Thanks a lot GizzaChat © 09:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It's because you can represent it solely as normal characters; the default setting is, IIRC, to only render equations as PNGs when you can't render them another way. Look in your preferences under "Math"; it's probably set to "HTML if very simple or else PNG". What you want is to check "Always render PNG". Shimgray | talk | 11:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
That wasn't the problem. I fixed the errors myself through observation despite never learning how to write math formulas on Wiki! The formulas that remained small did not have a \ before the math tags, which is meant to be the case. Thanks for trying solve the issue though. GizzaChat © 12:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
There's no reason to have a \ in front of the </math> tag. Shimgray is right; if you want all math to be rendered as a PNG, then you need to set your preferences accordingly. —Bkell (talk) 20:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Hide/Show thingy[edit]

I want to change Template:Half-Life series so that it's hidden by default, as it's quite a big template on alot of articles. I couldn't figure out how to do that tho, so I'm asking here. --Conti| 16:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Im not sure I understand your question. Why would you want to hide the template? Do you mean you want to hide parts of it? Road Wizard 20:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Look at the template, there's a small link on the upper right corner called [hide]. If you click on it almost all of the template will be gone, if you click again, it's back. That's a really neat feature for big templates, so they can still exist without making articles look ugly. --Conti| 20:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't spot that "hide" flag in the corner when I looked at it the first time. I have a partial answer for your question though. Through looking at other templates with this feature as default, I have created a replica of the template in my sandbox, with the actual code stored here. I have no idea how or why it works, but adding the code <div class="NavFrame" style="clear: both; "> between the first two <div> sections at the start, with an extra </div> at the end, seems to cause the raction you want. Hopefully someone else will pop along later and explain the how and why. Road Wizard 21:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Reverting help[edit]

how do you revert stuff --Madcow 20:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The Help:Reverting page should answer any questions you have about reverting. If you still need help though, pop back and we will see what we can do. :) Road Wizard 20:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Protection again[edit]

Why would a User page protection request be so unusual?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sacredvisions (talkcontribs) 22:03, July 22, 2006 (UTC)

The person requesting protection wouldn't be able to edit it themselves. That is one thing that seems unusual to me about it.—WAvegetarian(talk) 22:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
A second point is that it would be more difficult for editors to remove content if they discovered a copyright infringement later on. Also, maintenance functions such as moving the page to a renamed category would require more time and the involvement of an administrator. Road Wizard 22:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I see.
Well then, what is to stop someone from editing or completing changing your
own user page?146.235.66.52 22:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

There is nothing to stop them. However, unless their edit was to remove inappropriate content, you are well within your rights to revert them. If your user page is being vandalised frequently, your protection request will likely be accepted, but administrators are encouraged to set the protection for as short a period as possible. See WP:UP#Use of page protection for user pages for more information. Road Wizard 22:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Kewl.--146.235.66.52 22:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Where does removal of inappropriate content stop and violation
of free speech begin?--SacredVisions 00:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Naturally, there's a bit of a grey area. Fortunately, most problem cases I've run into don't fit into that grey area. The most important guideline would probably be WP:USER. Luna Santin 23:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Since there is no right to free speech on Wikipedia there can be no violation of free speech either. Wikipedia is dedicated to being an encyclopedia. Also, user pages are there only to serve that purpose, not to serve the vanity or opinions of the user. The question may arise from the idea that a user page can be used as a soapbox; that isn't what it is for. Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia Notinasnaid 07:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Weird[edit]

How funny is it to see this on your talk page?

Please stop now

Stop hand.svg

This is your last warning.

The next time you edit a page, you will be loved by Wikipedia.

It is weird, but this is does not seem to be a "question about how to use Wikipedia." :P —WAvegetarian(talk) 22:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Profanity[edit]

Some profanity may crop up on my user page in the discussion of certain films
and other media related areas.
Is it considered inappropriate? Will it be edited?--SacredVisions 00:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

No, it's fine on your user page. Wikipedia:User page may help you with other questions that you may have. Dismas|(talk) 00:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Account[edit]

how do i create my account? i just started and people want to deete my article

You have already created an account. However, before writing an article, please see: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost 05:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
It seems you already created your account. You wouldn't have been able to start an article without one. The article in question is at City Limits. You may want to read over a few of the tutorial pages such as Wikipedia:Your first article before proceeding with any more new articles. Dismas|(talk) 05:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Rydberg constant[edit]

"Bohr's condition,

2πr = nλ where

n is some integer r is the radius of some atom "

I didn't write this myself, I don't contribute much to maths articles. Instead it was an anonymous friend who "can't be bothered" to ask the question. The <math>...</math> tags are around this formula, but it isn't big like the rest. Why is this so? Can someone please fix this? Thanks a lot GizzaChat © 09:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It's because you can represent it solely as normal characters; the default setting is, IIRC, to only render equations as PNGs when you can't render them another way. Look in your preferences under "Math"; it's probably set to "HTML if very simple or else PNG". What you want is to check "Always render PNG". Shimgray | talk | 11:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
That wasn't the problem. I fixed the errors myself through observation despite never learning how to write math formulas on Wiki! The formulas that remained small did not have a \ before the math tags, which is meant to be the case. Thanks for trying solve the issue though. GizzaChat © 12:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
There's no reason to have a \ in front of the </math> tag. Shimgray is right; if you want all math to be rendered as a PNG, then you need to set your preferences accordingly. —Bkell (talk) 20:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Hide/Show thingy[edit]

I want to change Template:Half-Life series so that it's hidden by default, as it's quite a big template on alot of articles. I couldn't figure out how to do that tho, so I'm asking here. --Conti| 16:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Im not sure I understand your question. Why would you want to hide the template? Do you mean you want to hide parts of it? Road Wizard 20:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Look at the template, there's a small link on the upper right corner called [hide]. If you click on it almost all of the template will be gone, if you click again, it's back. That's a really neat feature for big templates, so they can still exist without making articles look ugly. --Conti| 20:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't spot that "hide" flag in the corner when I looked at it the first time. I have a partial answer for your question though. Through looking at other templates with this feature as default, I have created a replica of the template in my sandbox, with the actual code stored here. I have no idea how or why it works, but adding the code <div class="NavFrame" style="clear: both; "> between the first two <div> sections at the start, with an extra </div> at the end, seems to cause the raction you want. Hopefully someone else will pop along later and explain the how and why. Road Wizard 21:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Reverting help[edit]

how do you revert stuff --Madcow 20:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The Help:Reverting page should answer any questions you have about reverting. If you still need help though, pop back and we will see what we can do. :) Road Wizard 20:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Geography of the Vatican City[edit]

Right now the coordinates are inside the article. I'm trying to clean this article up, so how do I place the coordinates at the top of the page next to the title as they are in other articles about locations? 69.40.255.25 20:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly what you're after, could you give an example of a page with the right coordinates position? --Daduzi talk 20:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
In Vatican City, for example, the coordinates are in the upper right hand corner of the article. 69.40.255.25 21:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
You're looking for an infobox -- you can see an example if you click the "edit" link at the top of the Vatican City page. To be honest, I'm not sure which one would suit your purposes, but the places to look would probably include Category:Geography infobox templates and probably in particular Category:City infobox templates. The infobox atop Vatican City is a modified version of {{infobox country}}. Hope that helps! Luna Santin 22:36, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think so – check {{Coor title dms}} fetofs Hello! 00:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks.
Ack, sorreh. I saw the coordinates in the infobox at Vatican City (they're shown twice, apparently), and assumed you meant those. M'bad. Luna Santin 08:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Protection again[edit]

Why would a User page protection request be so unusual?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sacredvisions (talkcontribs) 22:03, July 22, 2006 (UTC)

The person requesting protection wouldn't be able to edit it themselves. That is one thing that seems unusual to me about it.—WAvegetarian(talk) 22:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
A second point is that it would be more difficult for editors to remove content if they discovered a copyright infringement later on. Also, maintenance functions such as moving the page to a renamed category would require more time and the involvement of an administrator. Road Wizard 22:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I see.
Well then, what is to stop someone from editing or completing changing your
own user page?146.235.66.52 22:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

There is nothing to stop them. However, unless their edit was to remove inappropriate content, you are well within your rights to revert them. If your user page is being vandalised frequently, your protection request will likely be accepted, but administrators are encouraged to set the protection for as short a period as possible. See WP:UP#Use of page protection for user pages for more information. Road Wizard 22:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Kewl.--146.235.66.52 22:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Where does removal of inappropriate content stop and violation
of free speech begin?--SacredVisions 00:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Naturally, there's a bit of a grey area. Fortunately, most problem cases I've run into don't fit into that grey area. The most important guideline would probably be WP:USER. Luna Santin 23:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Since there is no right to free speech on Wikipedia there can be no violation of free speech either. Wikipedia is dedicated to being an encyclopedia. Also, user pages are there only to serve that purpose, not to serve the vanity or opinions of the user. The question may arise from the idea that a user page can be used as a soapbox; that isn't what it is for. Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia Notinasnaid 07:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Weird[edit]

How funny is it to see this on your talk page?

Please stop now

Stop hand.svg

This is your last warning.

The next time you edit a page, you will be loved by Wikipedia.

It is weird, but this is does not seem to be a "question about how to use Wikipedia." :P —WAvegetarian(talk) 22:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Profanity[edit]

Some profanity may crop up on my user page in the discussion of certain films
and other media related areas.
Is it considered inappropriate? Will it be edited?--SacredVisions 00:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

No, it's fine on your user page. Wikipedia:User page may help you with other questions that you may have. Dismas|(talk) 00:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Account[edit]

how do i create my account? i just started and people want to deete my article

You have already created an account. However, before writing an article, please see: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost 05:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
It seems you already created your account. You wouldn't have been able to start an article without one. The article in question is at City Limits. You may want to read over a few of the tutorial pages such as Wikipedia:Your first article before proceeding with any more new articles. Dismas|(talk) 05:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Non-Commerical Tags for User-Created Images[edit]

Is there a way of creating a Copyright Tag for user-created images that allow the image to be used for any non-commercial reason? --Commander Zulu 06:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually such images are not encouraged here. See the mail from Jimbo Wales -- Lost 06:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks for that... seems like an odd policy, though! It's got to be limiting the number of available images for Wikipedia. I've got a couple I'd like to upload, but I'm not really prepared to do it if that makes them available for commercial use, since that would mean someone else could make money off my work.--Commander Zulu 07:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
      • It's not odd if you consider that one of Wikipedia's principles is that others can reuse its content for any reason, so long as attribution is provided. Keep in mind that others may already be making money off work you have done in writing or improving articles. — Knowledge Seeker 07:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
      • It's also worth bearing in mind that non-commercial licenses quite likely make printed or CD/DVD editions impossible - you wouldn't be allowed to make any money by selling the media, and indeed (uder some interpretations) you would have a difficult time even being allowed to recoup costs. The very successful CD edition of the German wikipedia couldn't have been done non-commercially, and it's a textbook case of the sort of thing we want to do. Shimgray | talk | 11:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Adding an album cover[edit]

I need to add an album cover that I scanned myself for a rock band, but I don't know wich is the right license for it. Wich one?

--Kapaue 08:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

(Copied from WP:NUH): Here's the right tag: {{albumcover}}. Please remember to add a fair use rationale for its use -- Lost 08:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

hi again... I'm a newbie here. I went to "upload file" and then it makes me choose one kind of license and I still don't know wich one to use and where to put that tag that you told me. help please


Editing page[edit]

Hello there,

I have made a new page called ProgArchives, its about a website on www.progarchives.com.. So my question is, I am not able to search the page without spelling with the same caps, I mean, I have to type "ProgArchives" with capital P and A. How can I make it searchable without typing the right caps?

Cheers, imoeng Imoeng 11:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

See WP:VFAQ#An article doesn't show up in the search. Also since this is your first article, please see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article -- Lost 11:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


New article[edit]

How do I start a new article?

The first thing to do would be to create an account. Also see the message on your talk page -- Lost 12:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Original date of publication[edit]

I have seen somewhere in these pages that it is good practice to include the original date of publication in square brackets. I am trying to add this to a reference but don't know how. It is an endnote reference of the type {{cite book ... I don't know if that makes it a .php reference or not. Can you advise? Thanks. --Itsmejudith 12:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I think this is what you are looking for -- Lost 12:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Rydberg constant[edit]

"Bohr's condition,

2πr = nλ where

n is some integer r is the radius of some atom "

I didn't write this myself, I don't contribute much to maths articles. Instead it was an anonymous friend who "can't be bothered" to ask the question. The <math>...</math> tags are around this formula, but it isn't big like the rest. Why is this so? Can someone please fix this? Thanks a lot GizzaChat © 09:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

It's because you can represent it solely as normal characters; the default setting is, IIRC, to only render equations as PNGs when you can't render them another way. Look in your preferences under "Math"; it's probably set to "HTML if very simple or else PNG". What you want is to check "Always render PNG". Shimgray | talk | 11:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
That wasn't the problem. I fixed the errors myself through observation despite never learning how to write math formulas on Wiki! The formulas that remained small did not have a \ before the math tags, which is meant to be the case. Thanks for trying solve the issue though. GizzaChat © 12:29, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
There's no reason to have a \ in front of the </math> tag. Shimgray is right; if you want all math to be rendered as a PNG, then you need to set your preferences accordingly. —Bkell (talk) 20:41, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Hide/Show thingy[edit]

I want to change Template:Half-Life series so that it's hidden by default, as it's quite a big template on alot of articles. I couldn't figure out how to do that tho, so I'm asking here. --Conti| 16:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Im not sure I understand your question. Why would you want to hide the template? Do you mean you want to hide parts of it? Road Wizard 20:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Look at the template, there's a small link on the upper right corner called [hide]. If you click on it almost all of the template will be gone, if you click again, it's back. That's a really neat feature for big templates, so they can still exist without making articles look ugly. --Conti| 20:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't spot that "hide" flag in the corner when I looked at it the first time. I have a partial answer for your question though. Through looking at other templates with this feature as default, I have created a replica of the template in my sandbox, with the actual code stored here. I have no idea how or why it works, but adding the code <div class="NavFrame" style="clear: both; "> between the first two <div> sections at the start, with an extra </div> at the end, seems to cause the raction you want. Hopefully someone else will pop along later and explain the how and why. Road Wizard 21:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Reverting help[edit]

how do you revert stuff --Madcow 20:27, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The Help:Reverting page should answer any questions you have about reverting. If you still need help though, pop back and we will see what we can do. :) Road Wizard 20:33, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Geography of the Vatican City[edit]

Right now the coordinates are inside the article. I'm trying to clean this article up, so how do I place the coordinates at the top of the page next to the title as they are in other articles about locations? 69.40.255.25 20:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly what you're after, could you give an example of a page with the right coordinates position? --Daduzi talk 20:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
In Vatican City, for example, the coordinates are in the upper right hand corner of the article. 69.40.255.25 21:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
You're looking for an infobox -- you can see an example if you click the "edit" link at the top of the Vatican City page. To be honest, I'm not sure which one would suit your purposes, but the places to look would probably include Category:Geography infobox templates and probably in particular Category:City infobox templates. The infobox atop Vatican City is a modified version of {{infobox country}}. Hope that helps! Luna Santin 22:36, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think so – check {{Coor title dms}} fetofs Hello! 00:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks.
Ack, sorreh. I saw the coordinates in the infobox at Vatican City (they're shown twice, apparently), and assumed you meant those. M'bad. Luna Santin 08:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Protection again[edit]

Why would a User page protection request be so unusual?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sacredvisions (talkcontribs) 22:03, July 22, 2006 (UTC)

The person requesting protection wouldn't be able to edit it themselves. That is one thing that seems unusual to me about it.—WAvegetarian(talk) 22:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
A second point is that it would be more difficult for editors to remove content if they discovered a copyright infringement later on. Also, maintenance functions such as moving the page to a renamed category would require more time and the involvement of an administrator. Road Wizard 22:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I see.
Well then, what is to stop someone from editing or completing changing your
own user page?146.235.66.52 22:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

There is nothing to stop them. However, unless their edit was to remove inappropriate content, you are well within your rights to revert them. If your user page is being vandalised frequently, your protection request will likely be accepted, but administrators are encouraged to set the protection for as short a period as possible. See WP:UP#Use of page protection for user pages for more information. Road Wizard 22:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Kewl.--146.235.66.52 22:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Where does removal of inappropriate content stop and violation
of free speech begin?--SacredVisions 00:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Naturally, there's a bit of a grey area. Fortunately, most problem cases I've run into don't fit into that grey area. The most important guideline would probably be WP:USER. Luna Santin 23:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Since there is no right to free speech on Wikipedia there can be no violation of free speech either. Wikipedia is dedicated to being an encyclopedia. Also, user pages are there only to serve that purpose, not to serve the vanity or opinions of the user. The question may arise from the idea that a user page can be used as a soapbox; that isn't what it is for. Generally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia Notinasnaid 07:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Weird[edit]

How funny is it to see this on your talk page?

Please stop now

Stop hand.svg

This is your last warning.

The next time you edit a page, you will be loved by Wikipedia.

It is weird, but this is does not seem to be a "question about how to use Wikipedia." :P —WAvegetarian(talk) 22:17, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Profanity[edit]

Some profanity may crop up on my user page in the discussion of certain films
and other media related areas.
Is it considered inappropriate? Will it be edited?--SacredVisions 00:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

No, it's fine on your user page. Wikipedia:User page may help you with other questions that you may have. Dismas|(talk) 00:29, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Account[edit]

how do i create my account? i just started and people want to deete my article

You have already created an account. However, before writing an article, please see: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost 05:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
It seems you already created your account. You wouldn't have been able to start an article without one. The article in question is at City Limits. You may want to read over a few of the tutorial pages such as Wikipedia:Your first article before proceeding with any more new articles. Dismas|(talk) 05:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Non-Commerical Tags for User-Created Images[edit]

Is there a way of creating a Copyright Tag for user-created images that allow the image to be used for any non-commercial reason? --Commander Zulu 06:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually such images are not encouraged here. See the mail from Jimbo Wales -- Lost 06:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks for that... seems like an odd policy, though! It's got to be limiting the number of available images for Wikipedia. I've got a couple I'd like to upload, but I'm not really prepared to do it if that makes them available for commercial use, since that would mean someone else could make money off my work.--Commander Zulu 07:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
      • It's not odd if you consider that one of Wikipedia's principles is that others can reuse its content for any reason, so long as attribution is provided. Keep in mind that others may already be making money off work you have done in writing or improving articles. — Knowledge Seeker 07:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
      • It's also worth bearing in mind that non-commercial licenses quite likely make printed or CD/DVD editions impossible - you wouldn't be allowed to make any money by selling the media, and indeed (uder some interpretations) you would have a difficult time even being allowed to recoup costs. The very successful CD edition of the German wikipedia couldn't have been done non-commercially, and it's a textbook case of the sort of thing we want to do. Shimgray | talk | 11:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Adding an album cover[edit]

I need to add an album cover that I scanned myself for a rock band, but I don't know wich is the right license for it. Wich one?

--Kapaue 08:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

(Copied from WP:NUH): Here's the right tag: {{albumcover}}. Please remember to add a fair use rationale for its use -- Lost 08:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

hi again... I'm a newbie here. I went to "upload file" and then it makes me choose one kind of license and I still don't know wich one to use and where to put that tag that you told me. help please


searching wikipedia[edit]

How do I limit search results to a specific category, e.g, looking for "strainer" only in the chemical engineering category.

With the current search tool this is not possible, see Wikipedia:Searching. I think it might be possible to add this capability to the CatScan tool. I'll suggest it. -- Rick Block (talk) 16:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Editing page[edit]

Hello there,

I have made a new page called ProgArchives, its about a website on www.progarchives.com.. So my question is, I am not able to search the page without spelling with the same caps, I mean, I have to type "ProgArchives" with capital P and A. How can I make it searchable without typing the right caps?

Cheers, imoeng Imoeng 11:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

See WP:VFAQ#An article doesn't show up in the search. Also since this is your first article, please see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article -- Lost 11:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


New article[edit]

How do I start a new article?

The first thing to do would be to create an account. Also see the message on your talk page -- Lost 12:22, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Original date of publication[edit]

I have seen somewhere in these pages that it is good practice to include the original date of publication in square brackets. I am trying to add this to a reference but don't know how. It is an endnote reference of the type {{cite book ... I don't know if that makes it a .php reference or not. Can you advise? Thanks. --Itsmejudith 12:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I think this is what you are looking for -- Lost 12:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Contrib counts?[edit]

Are there any true contribution counters that show your exact number of contribs at any time? If so, what are they and where can one be found? And if not, what is an easier way to check one's contrib count without scrolling through paga after page? Teh tennisman 12:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Here's the project that contains a list of edit counters -- Lost 13:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Interiot has a toolserver tool and a javascript tool, both of which can show you how many edits a user has made, and what namespaces they made them to. --Daduzi talk 13:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Interiot's counter stopped working. I recommend Flcelloguy's program. - Mgm|(talk) 14:58, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


helpme[edit]

I want to find a specific artical. I only know the date of publication, March 23, 2006, for sure. I think the authors are John Mershime and Stephen Walt, but I am not sure of the spelling.

If it was created in March, it would probably have gone through many changes by now. The simplest way to search for an article is to type its name in the search box on the left column and click Go. Have you already tried that? -- Lost 14:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC) oops -- Lost
I think you mean this article: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html (by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt). Please note that this page is for getting help with Wikipedia; in future, general knowledge questions should go to Wikipedia:Reference desk instead. Cheers, Tangotango 14:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Superstations about Indian Cobras[edit]

Hi!,

I want to know about the above subject. There is a superstation in south India that if you have by chance stepped on a cobra or tried to kill a cobra and if it has escaped from you, then it will take revenge on you by killing you within 12 years time. I want to know the following, 1. Is the above superstation TRUE?

2. How long the cobrs normally live?

3. What are the immediate steps to be taken on a snake bite?

4. Any information that could be related to the above subject is greatly welcome.

Thanks,

RAMACHANDRAN

I doubt if you will find information about superstitions on wikipedia because all information here must be verifiable. Regarding questions 2 and 3, please see Cobra and Snakebite respectively. Also please ask such questions at the WP:Reference desk as the help desk is for questions pertaining to Wikipedia only -- Lost 17:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Superstations, though, we got that. · rodii · 17:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, and Superstitions as well, actually -- Lost 18:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


What to do if I think an admin stepped over the line?[edit]

On this page I see that User:Essjay blocked User:CovenantD, after what really appear to be fairly mild negative comments. Yes they were negative, yes there should have been an attempt at resolving the dispute, but I don't think the heavyhanded immediate blocking was fair or right. I'm no real friend of CovenantD (the only reason I know him at all is that we've both edited one page that had some major problems).

So...who do I take this to, if I think someone with blocking capabilities is using them without trying other methods of dispute resolution? --Kickstart70-T-C 18:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

You take it to the blocking administrator, discussing your concerns with him. — Knowledge Seeker 19:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I did, as you can see in the linked issue. However, I don't think his response was satisfactory, nor do I think my concern is/will be understood by him. That's why I think this should have some outside help. --Kickstart70-T-C 19:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • If talking to the admin in question doesn't give a satisfactory result, you can ask for a second opinion from other admins at WP:AN. - Mgm|(talk) 19:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know. --Kickstart70-T-C 19:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Redirect to to headings inside an article[edit]

  • #REDIRECT [[article]]is used for redirecting.
  • [[article#heading]]is a link to a chapter of an article (example Full Ascii Code 39).

#REDIRECT [[article#heading]] thus should redirect to a chapter. Unfortunately this does not work (example Full Ascii Code 39) The redirect jumps to the article instead. This "feature" probably should be posted to http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ together with information about the software run on this wiki. -- Xypron 14:46, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

  • There's a good reason this doesn't work. Headers can be renamed. And there'd be no paper trail to show where the link should be pointing if such a change happened. That's why moving entire pages automatically leaves redirects, but unfortunately, the way sections are edited doesn't allow for a similar way to redirect in section renamings. - Mgm|(talk) 14:56, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
    There's a technical issue as well. I believe mostly for performance reasons, Wikipedia's REDIRECTs are implemented on the server side of the HTTP request (not as an HTTP REDIRECT, which is a server response telling the browser to fetch a different page instead of the one it originally requested). Since the "#section" syntax is part of the URL of the page to fetch, there is no way to tell the browser the section without reimplementing Wikipedia REDIRECTs as HTTP REDIRECTs. -- Rick Block (talk) 15:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
    There's already a bug filed for this. Bugzilla:218Pedantic79 (talk) 20:26, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Talk page[edit]

Hi! I've had a slight problem with another user on a specific page, and instead of falling into "edit war" I wrote my opinion on the talk page. In his response he called me names and wasn't ready to discuss. I was about to come to the community for help when a third party came in and made things right and told him to stay polite. Now... All of this was on the talk page of this article. This user, the offensive one, removed EVERYTHING that was on the talk page, even the description of what the third user did to fix it. I've always felt that talk page weren't supposed to be erased... (He even removed my comment on his talk page, but I guess you can do whatever you want on your own page.) Who's right? If you want to take a look: West syndrome Thanks! Aristiana 20:58, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Blanking talk pages, especially to avoid negotiation, is generally frowned upon. You can revert the blanking, and you can likewise place a {{test1a}} warning on his talk page, with a little explanation (find other warnings here, if he doesn't stop, or just for your own reference). If you prefer, you can use {{test1a-n|Talk:West syndrome}}. You may also wish to refer this user to Wikipedia talk page guidelines. Remember to assume good faith, even when it is difficult; hopefully, the other editor is just stressed, and will come around. If you have any problems, or if you'd rather have the warning come from a third, neutral party, you need only send me a talk. Hope that helps. :) Luna Santin 21:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


what kind of rifles used 2nd world[edit]

--152.163.100.11 21:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm not sure what you're asking, but I get the impression you'd be better off asking it at Reference Desk/Humanities, Reference Desk/Science, or Reference Desk/Miscellaneous. This page is generally only for questions relating to using, reading, or editing Wikipedia. Hope that helps. Have a good day. Luna Santin 22:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Harassment[edit]

I feel I've been targetted by a fellow user who for the last week or so have left snide remarks and nonsense on pages I've been involved with, including my personal talk page. Where should such behaviour be reported to? Many thanks. OSP 23:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


HEY LETS FORGET THE PAST AND BE FRIENDS.

CAN I HAVE YOUR VIRTUAL HAND SHAKE?

--Qho 23:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, it appears that said user is interested in reconcilliation. I would suggest trying to work it out. If that doesn't work and the behavior continues, you could report it to the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. I would suggest you go to Wikipedia:Resolving disputes first, however.—WAvegetarian(talk) 00:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Hey WAvegetarian, I fixed the faulty link in your reply. If you're unsure about the spelling of a link, I recommend you use the shortcuts. :) - Mgm|(talk) 00:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Question about a fact in an article[edit]

Hello,

I was reading the entry for the late Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson. The article refers to the fact that "another child born out of wedlock surfaced in 2005." Could you please give me more information about this source. Who is this person? Where do you find out this information? I have searched the internet over and cannot find any further information.192.251.73.123 00:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Jeff 192.251.73.123 00:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the source of that is. It was added with this edit, which I found using the history tab at the top of the article. As "verifiable from records and sources close to the Beach Boys" doesn't cut it, I have removed this "fact". Thank you for catching it and contributing to the encyclopedia.—WAvegetarian(talk) 00:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

How do I upload this special image?[edit]

I am trying to upload an image, but it has a special property: when you put the mouse pointer over it (but don't click), it changes pictures. Go to it here: http://dbzuncensored.dbzoa.net/series/gallery01.html (it is the second one; the one of the farmer with the hat and stick) (By the way, I would be uploading this under Fair Use on the article Editing of anime in American distribution). If you go to the the direct website of the picture: http://dbzuncensored.dbzoa.net/graphics/screencaps/ep001farmerscigj.jpg (which can be found by clicking on it, or by looking at its properties), it doesn't do the effect and only shows one of the pictures. So, I couldn't enter the direct website address on the "Upload file" page for "Source filename," nor could I put http://dbzuncensored.dbzoa.net/series/gallery01.html, as Wikipedia wouldn't know which image to upload, and it wouldn't work. I also tried saving the picture to my computer, but that only saves the one picture, without the effect. It would be okay if I had the two pictures separately (without any effect), but nothing I tried worked to get the pictures separately (except on Microsoft Word). So, how can I upload this picture with this effect? Or, how can I upload the two images within the image separately with no effect? (answer both of the last two questions, if possible)

  • This change happens because of the use of Javascript. Once you move the mousepointer over the first picture, the website knows how to load the second one. So it is simply two separate images. That said, I don't recommend uploading either of them because they are copyrighted. And they will likely be deleted if you did. Fair use only applies in limited circumstances, and with the amount of pictures already in the article, I doubt a valid fair use claim could be made. - Mgm|(talk) 07:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Add an album picture - licenses?[edit]

hi again... I'm a newbie here. I went to "upload file" and then it makes me choose one kind of license and I still don't know wich one to use and where to put that tag that I was told here. help please, I keep searching for a easy guide to this but I don't find anything.--Kapaue 04:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe that {{album-cover}} is what you are looking for. Just put {{album-cover}} in the edit summary of the upload and choose nothing under the licensing. Ryūlóng 05:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


trouble merging articles[edit]

I recently wrote an article on the Supreme Court decision Spinelli v. United States, and then subsequently learned that somebody else wrote a better article on the same subject. Therefore I decided to merge my article into the pre-existing one by changing my article to a #REDIRECT [[Aguilar-Spinelli test]], but it didn't work. I must have overlooked something, but I can't figure out what it is. What did I do wrong? 68.50.203.109 06:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

found the answer to my own question, but thought the answer was worth noting here: i had to do a "super reload" of the webpage instead of just a "regular" reload in order to force the browser to pick up the redirect. I thought that Netscape had gotten rid of the distinction between the two types of "reloads." 68.50.203.109 06:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Submitting an article[edit]

I have written a short biography (Don Tate) but have been unable to work out how to submit it and categorise it. I guess I'm semi computer-illiterate. It is my biography. Rregards, Don Tate —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Warvet (talkcontribs) 08:08, 24 July 2006 UTC.

We have policies about autobiographies. In general, we don't like them due to notability and neutrality issues. If you still want to submit it, type Don Tate into the search box. Then write an article there. You must be registered to make a new article however.—WAvegetarian(talk) 07:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Userbox/Usertemplates[edit]

Hey there.. How can I find userboxes or usertemplates for my userpage?? Cheers Imoeng 10:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

You can start at Wikipedia:Userboxes.—WAvegetarian(talk) 10:32, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


new entry[edit]

how do i nominate a new entry for wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sarateiger (talkcontribs) 11:46, 24 July 2006 UTC.

You can either start an account, or visit Articles for creation. Luna Santin 10:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
If you have got an account you can start an article yourself, see Help:Starting a new page. Or you could request for an article (not very effective in my opinion) at Wikipedia:Requested articles.--Commander Keane 11:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Where to get help resolving disagreement over naming an article.[edit]

Some editors disagree on the naming of the article currently named Kite (toy). Where can we get input from other editors? Please notify us on Talk:Kite (toy). --Bensin 11:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


why??????????[edit]

why did people start to celebrate halloween

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Halloween. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that doesn't solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They'll be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. - Tangotango 11:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Re-naming articles[edit]

For a while I have been trying to find information on how to re-name articles. How does one do it? I request to be notified on my talk page. Tashtastic 13:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Answers to helpdesk questions are posted here on the helpdesk - that way many people can learn from one question. Assuming you're logged in and your account isn't new, there's a "move" button at the top of each page. In most cases, though, it's worth discussing it first on the article's talk page. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 13:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Sandbox on user page?[edit]

Is it ok to create the subpage User:CoolGuy/Sandbox to test out some ideas on my own? CoolGuy 14:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, its ok. Lots of people do it. But also please see my reply to your other question below. User pages need to follow certain guidelines. You would do well to go through them -- Lost 15:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


List of templates[edit]

There are a lot of templates around Wikipedia, such as fact, speedy, etc. Where can I find a directory or portal that can help me browse some of these? CoolGuy 14:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Coolguy. WP:Templates should do the trick. GofG ||| Contribs 14:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
That's just what I needed. Thanks! CoolGuy 14:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


User page[edit]

Where can I find out more info on the rules about my user page? I currently use it to provide links to articles that I find interesting or that I had a large role in editing. What if I'd like to write some opinions on there--such a review of a meal I had at a restaurant (just an example). If this isn't an appropriate place, does anyone know a sister wiki where that would be appropriate? CoolGuy 14:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:User page for guidelines about userpages. Also see what wikipedia is WP:Not -- Lost 15:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Once again, just what I needed. Thanks! CoolGuy 15:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

July 24

Speed Limits[edit]

What speed limits - minimum and maximum - apply on I40? thank you. Ken Cooke UK.--82.18.79.112 19:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. Jacek Kendysz 20:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Derogatory comments about a person[edit]

I emailed info-en-q@wikimedia.org about a problem with a page - someone keeps editing to include derogatory comments about a person - and I have not gotten a reply. Is there someone who can help me speed this process up? Not to be inpatient but, well, it's a fairly serious issue. Thanks in advance.

Can you give a link to the derogatory remarks? -- Lost 20:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm sure there's enough people who can help if you tell us who is doing the editing to which article. - Mgm|(talk) 20:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Article Title Change[edit]

How do you change the title of an article? The title for the airline named "go!" is: Go! (airline). If you do a search for either "go!" or "go! airline" you do not come up with the correct title. When you search for "go!" you come up with "Go! the third album by the band Letters to Cleo." If you click on the link "For other meanings, see Go," you go to "Go (board game)." What can one do to correct this. Thanks, Gmurnane 20:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

There is no need to move the page. There are obviously many articles that go by the name "Go!" and that is why the airline is disambiguated. If you want to go to the page for the airline named "Go!" you have to actually type "Go! (airline)" into the search bar. However, it appears that the disambiguation link was not correctly used at Go!. I have fixed it and it now shows Go (disambiguation). Ryūlóng 21:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I've gone further, taking "Go!" to be more of a special case than the other "Go" entries, and put a special link to the airline page on the album page. Notinasnaid 21:07, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

July 25

  1. ^ Aid to Bible Understanding, p.894
  2. ^ Reasoning From the Scriptures, pp. 136-137, 282-283; Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 919
  3. ^ Reasoning From the Scriptures, pp. 136-137, 361; Make Sure of All Things, p. 487
  4. ^ Reasoning from the Scriptures, pp. 136-137, 382
  5. ^ Reasoning from the Scriptures, p. 30; Make Sure of All Things, p. 143
  6. ^ Reasoning from the Scriptures, p. 103; Make Sure of All Things, p. 231
  7. ^ Reasoning from the Scriptures, p. 334
  8. ^ Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 982; Watchtower, 3/1/87, p. 29
  9. ^ Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 683
  10. ^ The Watchtower, 5/1/81, p. 17
  11. ^ Watchtower, 2/15/86, pp. 12-14
  12. ^ Watchtower, 2/15/86, p. 14
  13. ^ Watchtower 12/1/85, p. 9
  14. ^ The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life, p. 182
  15. ^ Watchtower, 6/15/68, p. 359
  16. ^ Watchtower, 12/1/85, p. 18
  17. ^ Watchtower, 12/1/85, p. 7
  18. ^ Reasoning from the Scriptures, p. 95