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April 17[edit]

RefDeskBot Broken?[edit]

Something rather odd just happened here - apparently when RefDeskBot attempted to archive the page, it ended up removing the header and half of the __NEWSECTIONLINK__ code - can someone check out the bot and get it fixed so it can do it's job properly? Hersfold (talk/work) 00:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

You're not alone - User talk:Martinp23#RefDeskBot, and one on the bot's talk page, too. And yeah, it is quite annoying... x42bn6 Talk 00:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I reported the issue to the bot owner - nonetheless, we might need an admin to push some big red buttons if this keeps up. Hersfold (talk/work) 00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
In the future, just restore the header, rather than reverting the bot, given another 20 or 30 seconds I would have restored the header myself, however someone reverted the bot before I had a chance to do so--VectorPotentialTalk 00:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Oops. Sorry. Hersfold (talk/work) 00:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi - I thought that the problem had been resolved? Shows how much I know! Just to note - the bot is not malfunctioning, but is acting as designed - the issue is that changes are often made to the header of this page above all others which will break the bot. Now, when these changes take place, it's easy for me to adjust the code (etc) to make the bot continue with normal service. However, all too often I am kept in the dark, and only find out when someone comes to my talk page requesting an immediate fix, or a block. I'm now going to try to fix this header - if the issue happens again in future, could someone poke me on my talk page, and just ask for me to sort it out? Thanks, Martinp23 00:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
In this case, somebody had changed the bot's marker (the comment at the bottom of the header text) to read "Start841" rather than "Start840", thus it is no wonder that the bot got lost! Thanks, Martinp23 00:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm surprised I missed that ( : VectorPotentialTalk 00:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hehe - I had to check in the bot's code that it actually was 840, and now 841 that it was looking for :P. Occasionally we get vandalism which seeks to break the bot, so we just need to be careful to catch it :) Martinp23 00:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Account Age[edit]

As of today, my accoutn is 4 days old, yet I can't edit semi-protected pages. Why is this? --98E 00:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Your account was created at 21:59, April 14, 2007 (at least on Wikipedia's clock) so you can move pages after 21:59, April 18, 2007. See this. x42bn6 Talk 00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, okay. --98E 00:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Accidental Reporting[edit]

I accidentally clicked the "Vandalism" option on my own contribution page and I think I accidentally reported myself as vandalism. Does anyone know what happens with Accidental Vandalism reporting?

--Heero Kirashami 00:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't see that you've reported yourself anywhere... but if you have, someone will check your contributions and know not to block you. I wouldn't worry too much, just be careful what you click next time. ;-) Hersfold (talk/work) 00:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


What is a Userbox and how do you get one? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by YOSHIANDLINK1 (talkcontribs) 00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

See WP:USERBOX. :-) Hersfold (talk/work) 00:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

pre existing plumbing[edit]

I am looking to find blue prints on my houses plumbing where do I look —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 00:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

I'd start with our reference desk, which specializes in general knowledge questions.--VectorPotentialTalk 00:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

citations for articles - how do i find[edit]

i'm a total Wikipedia novice. I found an article that one of my "clients", an investment banker, found very helpful. He asked about how it can be authenticated. I have no idea how to do that. Please see this article: and tell me if there are any authenticating citations embedded within.

Also, please, how will i find your answer? You say not to use email but I'm going to include it here anyway as my work email is well guarded from spam. please respond to that. Thank you.

Karin Zilla <email redacted> —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 02:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Thanks; as there seem to be no citations or references on that page (and I've labeled it as needing them), then one would have to independently look it up, if Wikipedia is not good enough for you. [Mαc Δαvιs] ❖ 02:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Headline text[edit]



In your article about Fouad Abou Nader, you mentioned that he is the cousin of Bashir gemayel. He is not the cousin he is the Nephew of Bashir Gemayel.

Thank you for correcting the mistake.

If you have a source for this, you can go ahead and correct it yourself. Or comment on the talk page if you need someone else to source it. Adrian M. H. 13:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Last Modified Time[edit]

Hi, the last modified time at the bottom of very bottom of every Wikipedia page does not seem to match my computer time. For example, pages often read last updated at 04:00, while it is only Midnight where I live. This means the Wikipedia clock is 4 hours ahead of my time zone. Is there some way to change this time? It's a bit annoying to get used to, but not a huge deal —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 04:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

The time that Wikipedia uses is UTC. If you're using the default Monobook skin, you can click my preferences at the top of the page, then select the Date and Time tab, click fill in from browser, and save. This will adjust the times shown on your watchlist and recent changes, but not in signatures on talk pages, which will always be in UTC. WODUP 04:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I just noticed that you're editing anonymously from an IP address. You'll need to create an account in order to adjust your preferences. Cheers! WODUP 04:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Photo problem[edit]

I just uploaded a picture Image:Wwii woman worker.jpg and it doesn't show up in article thumbnails or on the photo page... but if I click on the photo itself I can see it, so it must be on the server. What's going on? (It is a ginormous file, over 3megs. Is this the problem?) Calliopejen1 04:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The server will take some time to resize it, or that you have used some weird jpeg encoding method that MediaWiki have trouble with. I know progressive is problematic, maybe it have problems with some other things is well. Anyways, that image can be downsampled 50% and it would still look the same, there aren't much high frequency details in the image. --antilivedT | C | G 04:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

help withnotability for film director biography[edit]

I am having a disagreement with another editor of the David_Loren_Cunningham page. This is a biography of a film director. I wondered if there are specific instructions as to what makes a film "notable" - IE are student films to be included? I think I saw a page with people who work on film related biographies - but I cant find it now.--Boscobiscotti 05:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Notability (films). You also could ask for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films. Calliopejen1 06:15, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Wow. Thanks so much.!!! will go look at it. thanks again.-- 06:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


how do I include citations for my article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tdempton (talkcontribs) 06:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

A new page?[edit]

Hello. I am an upcoming actor which I hope to make a tv show soon. I am from Oregon Wisconsin and I tried to edit the page where it shows Important people from Oregon Wisconsin. I added my name, but I do not have a page unlike my old classmate, Micah.

I can provide more information if needed.


William Maher —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 06:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

  • I'm not sure if "Important people from Oregon Wisconsin" is a list or a category, but it's probably not a good idea to add your own name if you don't have an article. Have a look at WP:COI which tells you what pitfalls to avoid when writing about yourself. If this TV show you're talking about is a national one someone is likely to make a page about you when it's aired anyway. It's better to wait for someone else to make the article. - Mgm|(talk) 07:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I may be fired from the job/copmelled to take retirement[edit]

Iam 64 years adfult. Igot the cizenship of USA. Due health problem, My bank will eityher fired or they may compel to leave the job. In Social Security I have earned only 36 points. What I can do now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 09:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

  • Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. = Mgm|(talk) 10:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I want an "administrator" who is sane to help me pls[edit]

I created the list article List of notable people detected driving under the influence after hours of research, every person linked to has this identifying circumstance in thier respective wikipedia article, just like every other list in the Lists of people by circumstance section so why not delete all of those? Can anyone hazard a guess as to why the administrator User:Ryulong deletes this, reverts all the links I made to it, not even nominating it for deletion just deleting it, and he does not have decency to explain any of his edits, or leave a single keystroke on my talk page?--0001 09:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

  • References as to why someone is on a list are supposed to go in the list itself. In most cases, one or two incidents in which someone drove under influence is not considered encyclopedic to the point that it should be included in the person's article. - Mgm|(talk) 10:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Requesting translations from other language wikipedias[edit]

I've just added an infobox to Alexander von Falkenhausen butt I need more information on his awards and units commanded. The german wikipedia has this information so how can I tag this article for translation? Burning phoneix 10:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

You could try going to Wikipedia:Translation. --KzTalkContribs 11:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


I am new to wikipaedia and did not realize how important it was to know what i am doing with the site. I am still a bit lost as to how to go about things. I have accepted to remove myself from further edits and am sure things will resolve since i am not unhappy with any edits that have been done on my behalf. Please realize that i will not move until i know more from now on. The worst is i do not know how to get advice from user. I have seen that i need to be adopted but dont quiteknow how to apply the codes

please be certain i will not move or do anything further until i get a real dialogue going with someone who can advise me ..thanks mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by Showerscience (talkcontribs)

Also see Wikipedia:Mentorship and WP:TOTD. --Teratornis 16:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

how many human being born yet[edit]

kindly let me know that how many human being born yet,how many died and what are the numbers of human being alive(which almost 6.5(B) from any known period about 8000bc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nusrat rashid (talk

contribs) 11:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Reference desk will be more suitable for your question. --KzTalkContribs 11:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
See Population, Demographics, World population#Historical figures, and World population#Number of humans that have ever lived. --Teratornis 16:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

VA Tech shootings[edit]

Why was Roanoke Memorial Hospital not listed as the trama center they took students to.Mermer4u 12:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

This is the help desk. It is for questions about how to edit the Wikipedia. If you'd like to ask a general knowledge question, please use the Reference desk or the talk page of the article about the shooting. Dismas|(talk) 12:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Was that mentioned anywhere in the media? If it wasn't, it was probably left out because it wasn't verifiable. Otherwise it's likely simply no one came around to adding it yet. - Mgm|(talk) 07:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


I have just posted my info and have been told I lifted it from a certain website - I own that website and wrote all the copy - why can't it be left on as I am the author so own copyright. Syvia Tidy-Harris STH100 12:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Please see WP:AUTO and WP:COI as to why it's generally frowned upon to write about yourself or your own organization. Dismas|(talk) 12:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Piteå Wall of Fame[edit]

Im not good att englisch can someone help me whit dis articel Piteå Wall of Fame.Wolfmann 13:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

To be totally frank, the article is so poorly phrased that I struggled to comprehend precisely what you intended to write. I'll tag it for cleanup, but that is all that I can do for it. Adrian M. H. 16:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I had a go at cleaning it up. Having done so, I conclude that a wall with a list of famous sportsmen isn't notable enough for Wikipedia, and nominated it for deletion. Sorry. Notinasnaid 17:54, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
You could try writing the article in your native language Wikipedia. Someone who is bilingual could then translate it to the English Wikipedia, assuming it meets all the requirements for notability and reliable sources. Even a babelfish translation to English might be easier for an English-only editor to clean up, because at least the original article is likely to be grammatically coherent. --Teratornis 06:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


How do I add a picture, or an image, to an article I have created?Chiemeka N. 13:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Image#Linking. I'd also be willing to help add the image if you tell me the name of the article. Best, PeaceNT 14:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


I am an Italian Birman cat breeder, I added my images here: In my talk I read Image copyright problem. English version of Wikipedia is different from Italian version, I'd like give the license of my images to use freely in Wikipedia. In Italian version the license is given by e-mail, and this is the credit: OTRS #2006070510011857

Thank you. Claudia

  • Thank you for adding images to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, we cannot use "Wikipedia only" licenses, because Wikipedia is supposed to be free to be reused for any purpose, including commercial. Are you prepared to release your images for unlimited use? Notinasnaid 14:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
    • You are welcome to release your images under a free license accepted by Wikipedia. Many of these licenses do come with provisions that require that you are credited with the work. For a full listing of licenses you can use, check here. Hersfold (talk/work) 14:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleted image but no redlink[edit]

While going through an old Images and media for deletion archive, I came across a link to Image:Orgone_motor_paul_laffoley.jpg, which was still a blue link. Checking the log shows that it has in fact been deleted, but for some reason the image page remains (though of course without an image). I'm just wondering if this is some kind of glitch, and if so, what to do about it. --Pekaje 14:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I've seen this before, the page disappeared soon after. As for the cause, I don't know, it seems the image parameters are still there but the server cannot load the image itself. Scottydude talk 14:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


1. Why does {{subst:CURRENTSECOND}} change to {{{{{subst|}}}#time:s}} when you save the page and not a number?

2. Also will «razorclaw 20:18:28, 04-16-2007» this be archived because it has the time or will it need a real timestamp?

15:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


phenol + acid anhydride ----------> ???

  • what will be product?
  • pyridine use as a solvent...but how?? give mechanism?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Khushhali100 (talkcontribs) 15:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC).
Please do not post homework questions. Notinasnaid 15:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Missing page.[edit]

I wrote a page called "numbers in music" late last year and it seems to be missing. I was not sure how to source things and such like and think that may be the reason. If i could get an explanaition that would be great and some help too as i would like to continue adding to this site. Thanks. 15:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Numbers in music. --Teratornis 16:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Look for some help on your talk page, I will help you there. Scottydude talk 16:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Regarding attribution, sources and referencing: WP:ATT, WP:V, WP:CITE and WP:FN. Adrian M. H. 16:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism of the "English Language" article[edit]

Vandalism of the "English Language" article when viewed on April 17th @ 5pm gmt.

I'm new here. I am not sure how to report this.

Raulkyyv 15:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)raulkyyv

You should revert the edit but it will have been already reverted, if already not warned by other users you should warn him/her using the appropriate user warning and if they vandalise after their fourth and final warning, then they can be reported on WP:AIV.TellyaddictTalk 16:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


I'm working on a project for a history project and was wondering who to give credit to for writing the article about Marie Curie. I'd like to know ASAP!!! Thank you, L.N.A. 17:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

For attribution, sources and referencing, see: WP:ATT, WP:V, WP:CITE and WP:FN. --Kainaw (talk) 18:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I think the questioner wants to know about citing Wikipedia for their own use. Have a read of Researching with Wikipedia and the links in the See Also section. Adrian M. H. 20:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Admin/Editor/Vandal graph[edit]

I saw this brilliant graph a few days ago that showed, over time, the varying number of admins vs. editors and vandals, and that while the number of admins is only rising slightly, the number of vandals is rising hugely. I've searched and searched but to no avail. Does anyone know where I can find that again? Thanks! :) Rockstar (T/C) 18:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind -- found it! Rockstar (T/C) 18:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Where did you find it? (Probably nowhere near WP:RFA, where the main concern seems to be over userboxes and the percentage of edit summary usage.) --Elkman (Elkspeak) 18:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Ha! I think I originally found it on a WP:N talk page? But I can't remember. I did some searching and finally found it again here. Enjoy! Rockstar (T/C) 21:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear Sir/ Please help & assist me[edit]

Please, I wrote into my web site "I give all my researches to Israel, which stolen from me in Egypt & the more processed about my recent domain of the atomic code & coding, and my given to Israel as a legal trust to the Israelite government", and since I have been requesting my right of asylum to Israel, see this request through the upper dynamic effect into the home page to my web site… Please, help me & grant me my humanistic rights… I requested this from your presidency before at the e-mail:- <email redacted> Please, examine the all into my web site to grant the eligible scientific degree & take me to Israel… Please, inform your government in Israel with my official request to you since you are the appropriate org in Egypt with this… Israelite Researcher/ Adel Aziz Gabra Fam Address: 25 Kanesat El-saida El-azra St, Toson-Shoubra misr Cairo Egypt

<email redacted> Please, guide me about the eligible org in Israel which interest in my humanistic status… —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 19:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Audio clip from computer game[edit]

I'm not sure what license should come under. There are templates for "Screenshot from a videogame" and "Music clip", but this isn't either of those. It is essentially the audio equivalent of a screenshot but I haven't been able to find any other examples of such clips. Arganoid 19:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Lost my ability to set my preferences[edit]

I started an account today, went to make the preferences for my page. I accidentlly closed my browser, re-opened it and signed back on to Wiki. Now I cant find my preferences tab or any link to such a thing to continue tweaking my account.

Please help!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Syracuse Muse (talkcontribs) 19:38, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

You might simply have selected a skin that lacks that link (if that applies to any of the optional skins). Click this link: Special:Preferences. Tip: while there, specify an e-mail address (there is an option to avoid receiving messages) because you'll need that if you ever lose your password. Adrian M. H. 20:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


Hello editors, I am curious why some articles can be edited any others can't. For example, the articles on Islam and aids cannot be edited, and hiv can? Also, who and what criteria do you use to edit your articles? Are your editors college students? The last question in what time fashion do you check articles? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wash77ls (talkcontribs) 20:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Without links, I cannot say for certain, but I assume that they are protected, which is an option when dealing with heavy and systematic vandalism. Adrian M. H. 20:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I've just searched for Islam and it is indeed semi-protected; when your account is four days old, you can edit semi-protected pages. Adrian M. H. 20:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Here's an interesting essay about who writes Wikipedia. The author claims that most of the content comes from a vast number of occasional contributors, most who tend to make few edits, but when they edit they tend to input substantial chunks of text at once, while most of the structure and formatting comes from a relatively small number of "insiders" who learn the rules and policies of Wikipedia and make large numbers of edits (mostly tweaks to the raw content supplied by occasional contributors). --Teratornis 20:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

How to capitalize title?[edit]

Sorry such a basic question. I accidentally didn't capitalize the entire title of the page and now I don't know how to edit the title. Thank you.Freedompress 20:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Tell me which one and I'll move it for you. See WP:MOVE for details about why you can't do this yet. Adrian M. H. 20:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I have just visited your user pages and seen the COI issue surrounding your contributions. If the article in question has been CSD nominated then I will have to avoid moving it. Sorry. Adrian M. H. 20:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
FYI, Freedompress can move pages, that account was created 07:00, 5 September 2006. Prodego talk 20:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Great! Thank you everyoneFreedompress 20:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation: Two publishing companies with the same name[edit]

I wasn't sure how to disambiguate for Freedom Press in the UK and Freedom Press in California. I did an "optional redirect" from each page which I probably shouldn't have done. What should I do so I can do it right away? Thank you for your help.Freedompress 20:46, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

You can help responders by linking to the pages you refer to. In this case, the pages seem to be:
This will need some work; others will jump in to help, I am sure. In the meantime, you should read the pages linked under: User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Dis. --Teratornis 21:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Actually both are just Freedom Press. So, I read the pages you suggested, can I go ahead and move one to Freedom Press (U.K.) and the other one to Freedom Press (U.S.)? and then have Freedom Press as the disambiguation page?Freedompress 21:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I did it. Hopefully it is right. Thanks again.Freedompress 02:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

That looks about right. I admit to being amused at the "Freedom" Press site which has a copyright notice at the bottom of the main page: © 2004 Freedom Press. All Rights Reserved — that doesn't sound free to me. I guess "freedom" is flexible concept. --Teratornis 06:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Public domain[edit]

First of all: I'm new on Wikipedia so please don't bite even if I'm going to ask stupid question. I'd like to add some pictures to articles on Old Polish, Polish (and maybe few other). My question is: can I use pictures from this website: [1] (especially [2])?

There is a notice: This website is part of UNESCO’s "Publica" series. UNESCO promotes a strong public domain in which information and knowledge is accessible for all. Communication and information technologies can largely facilitate this access, particularly to classic works of world literature. UNESCO’s "Publica" series, which is constituted by a collection of digitized texts from the world’s literary heritage, makes them available free-of-charge on-line (on the Internet) and off-line (CD-ROMs). but I don't know the copyright policies. Can I download the photos and upload them here? How should I mark their copyrights? --Wnuk-pl 20:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

The first link you cited shows this text:
Following that link leads to another link: Virtual library of classic works of world literature which says, about the Arab literature collection, The Institut du Monde Arabe has established a first list of texts, free from copy-right, to be included in the project.
I poked around a little more, but I did not find anything that clearly addresses re-use of content from the UNESCO virtual library. However, phrases like "free from copy-right" and "public domain" make it sound like this material can be copied without restrictions. I suggest you write to some of the e-mail contacts listed on the Polish sites you are interested in, and ask them to clarify whether the pictures on the sites are also in the public domain, with no restrictions on re-use. If they are, then you might add these sites to the list on WP:PDIMG and/or WP:PDR#Literature. Also see WP:IUP. --Teratornis 06:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

external links[edit]

I would like to know if I can insert an external website link in the external link section of some subjects to direct viewers to a glossary of terms on a website.

I thought I did it yesterday-when I go back to that page,it is not there.Is there an editing process?

swiftsure1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Swiftsure1 (talkcontribs)

You can view the history of the article by clicking on the "history" tab at the top. Editors will normally leave a reason why they removed something in the edit summaries which are shown in the history. You should probably also review the guidelines on what links are acceptable at WP:EL. Dismas|(talk) 21:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
In fact, this edit shows that the editor who removed the links thought that they were spam. Looking at the links, it seems they might be better suited on the article about the author himself rather than on the article for the city he lived in. Dismas|(talk) 21:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Rothschild Giraffe[edit]

I have just created this article, but it does not appear whan I search. How do I make it available on Wikipedia?

Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deanmurley (talkcontribs) 22:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Rothschild giraffe is available. The search function works off a cached index, and often does not show new articles for several days or more. DES (talk) 22:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


I have created a new article. How do I make a link from an existing article to my new one. e.g. I have created an article on Rothschild Giraffe and want to make a link from the Giraffe page to this new one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deanmurley (talkcontribs) 22:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Just add [[Rothschild giraffe]] to the appropriate place on Giraffe. You can also change the text; for example, [[Rothschild giraffe|piped text]] (that's a pipe in the middle, which is Shift+\) will show up as piped text. Veinor (talk to me) 22:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Tagging a duplicate article for deletion[edit]

What is the process for tagging a duplicate article for deletion? I think that the article Kate Behan should be deleted as there is an article Kate Beahan already in existence with her name spelt correctly and with much more content. I don't think a merge is appropriate as the vast majority of the content in the "Behan" article is already in the "Beahan" article. Thanks. --Mattinbgn/ talk 22:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

  • If there's nothing to merge, just change Kate Behan to have just the text #REDIRECT [[Kate Beahan]] WilyD 22:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Too easy, why didn't I think of that! Cheers, ---Mattinbgn/ talk 22:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


What is the meaning of life? 22:45, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Try and be nice to people, avoid eating fat, read a good book every now and then, get some walking in, and try and live together in peace and harmony with people of all creeds and nations. -Wooty Woot? contribs 22:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC) work out what the meaning of life is. Harryboyles 14:42, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Google Summary of Article[edit]

When I search google for Dimitry Shostakovich, then the first link is the link to wikipedia together with abstract of the article:

Encyclopedia entry discussing the composer's life and works, and the political controversies surrounding him, plus links to audio files.

Where does that abstract come from? I did not see it in the article? Is there special command for search engine descriptions?

Thanks --helohe (talk) 23:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It isn't in Dmitri Shostakovich, nor do I see it in any recent prior version. it seems to be soemthign google added as a summery, I don't know from where. DES (talk) 23:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
It's from the Open Directory Project (dmoz), I believe. Shimgray | talk | 23:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes. A Google search on the phrase shows,_Dmitri_Dmitriyevich/ They make their own descriptions for listed links. PrimeHunter 01:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
And Google imports the dmoz descriptions into google directory, see -- Rick Block (talk) 01:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


you know your user bar for when you are signed in?... well when I put my cursor over it it friggin moves to the left of the page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is it just a bug or do you think that I inadvertently uploaded a virus?

has anyone else seen this happen or heard of it?


-- Gandalf's hattalk 00:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

(P.s.: it is @#!#ing annoying!!!!)

It happens every once in a while; logging out and back in seems to 'fix' it. HalfShadow 00:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

yeah, before you posted i logged out and back in and it stopped; must have just been a bug (thanks anyways)... Gandalf's hattalk 00:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)