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April 22[edit]


Is using YouTube to cite sources allowed? Pastel kitten 01:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Usually not, due to copyright issues--$UIT 02:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, anything can be made up on Youtube, not reliable source apparently. PeaceNT 05:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
This might depend on what the citation is about. For example, if an article is about a notable video which appeared on YouTube, citing the original video would be an obvious convenience for readers who want to view it (presumably, at least some of the people who read a Wikipedia article about a video might also want to view the video itself), but the YouTube video would not be evidence of its own notability. For that, citations of other reliable sources would be necessary. The content of a YouTube video would not be a reliable source for much of anything. Anyone could say anything in a video and upload it to YouTube. There is no fact-checking of the content in YouTube videos, like there is (some degree of) fact-checking at a reputable newspaper, for example. --Teratornis 07:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
However, in a case where an otherwise reliable source is uploaded onto Youtube, you could use it in a {{cite}} template for courtesy. I couldn't find any appropriate examples, though. WilyD 15:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Uploading Images[edit]

Hi. I am a new user, contributing to Swimming Pools, and would like to upload an image to illustrate a point. How do I do so, and how do I embed it in my article? Hopefully my contributions so far have been acceptable and useful. Thanks, Larry Kiwilarry 02:51, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

See the page at Help:Images for more information on adding and using pictures and other files. To upload a file, go to Special:Upload. Hersfold (talk/work) 03:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Go along with what Hersfold said, see also Help:Images and other uploaded files#Linking. PeaceNT 11:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Errors in tag[edit]

Hi, I think there are a couple of errors in the info provided in this tag and was wondering how to get them fixed please... -- Johnfos 03:14, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

You can edit it.--$UIT 03:16, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

{{fusion power}}

How do you know if its a girl or a boy[edit]

How do you know if its a girl or a boy —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

In a template? AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 04:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
The question is probably a new question, not necessarily related to the previous question, so I added a section heading for it. The question is ambiguous, but one way to make sense of it is to assume the referent of "it" in "its" (which should actually be "it's") is fetus. If that's what "it" is, then there are some options:
Hopefully, regardless of what gender "it" turns out to be, "it" will grow up in a society where everyone knows how to look stuff up on Wikipedia. --Teratornis 06:41, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Interwiki doc page pattern usage[edit]

I'm trying to get this template to do anything useful on enwikt, and failing. I expect it to generate a reference to Template:Template doc page transcluded in <includeonly> tags someplace, but I don't see it when I try it over there. When I try it over here, it works as advertised (minus issues for being used off a template under a user page), but I still can't see where the reference to Template doc page transcluded is, so that I can fix it over on enwikt. Could someone give me a bit of help? Thanks. ArielGlenn 04:27, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Upload a file[edit]

I'm lost, I cannot find how to upload a file onto a website or instructions on what I am actually doing. I am doing this for my course content.PJ elearn

Try the "Upload file" link on the left menu. It will display this page. You should provide license and general information about your contribution (for instance, you may use the template of User:Rjgodoy#How to upload an image). However, remind that wikipedia is an encyclopedia: if your intention is to upload course content, I would suggest you trying wikiversity. Rjgodoy 07:27, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


Wheather maternity comes under sickness ? What is the defination of Sickness? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 10:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

This isn't a question about using wikipedia, so it's not a question for the helpdesk. You could try searching work maternity and sickness in the search bar, and if that doesn't help you could try the reference desk. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 10:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


Hi, I've been having some difficulty with the references in this article: Wind power in the European Union. In particular, numbers 1, 2, 3, 12 and 15 haven't come out properly in the References list. Would be grateful for any assistance. -- Johnfos 12:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Just fixed it. The URL for the first three was kind of odd--wikipedia just didn't seem to be handling it right. To fix the problem, I just linked to the PDF news release at the same site that said the same thing. For the last two, there was a return in the middle of the title, which was screwing things up. Calliopejen1 13:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

javascript monobook[edit]

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, nor am I sure that Wikipedia is even the right website for this question, but I was hoping hat someone could point me in the right direction as to how to do this. I'm looking to add links to each entry in the new users log using a javascript command. I want to make two links show up, after that I can code the rest. How would I get a link to sho up next to each entry on the New Users log page using Javascript? Redian (Talk) 14:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, but perhaps someone at the Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts can help you. Nihiltres(t.c.s) 14:34, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I am pretty new to uploading images.[edit]

A previous image I uploaded was deleted. But this time when I uploaded I read a bit about it before trying. I have uploaded the image at Image:Uzhaippali.gif. Can someone please look at it and tell me if anything is missing (as in any extra information I must provide)? ~~ AVTN T CVPS 14:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

If you read the info box for the license, you will see it says that the uploader should add a "detailed fair use rationale for each use". So you should do that. Notinasnaid 14:43, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Is it ok now? ~~ AVTN T CVPS 15:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
looks good to me. Calliopejen1 16:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

King Abdullah Economic City[edit]

Dear Sirs,

This is Nasser Bakkar and I am the Vice President Corporate Communications for Al Fozan company in Saudi Arabia. Allow me first to gongratulate you on a very comprehensive report you have devloped and posted on your website. I am referring to the King Abdullah Economic City page.

While going through the list of Developers that are part of this project, you notice a typo in our company name. We are called Al Fozan (and not Al Fowzan) and our website link is

Based on the above, we would really appreciate if you can ammend the changes at your earliest and do please contact me for any clarification or additional information.

Best regards, Nasser Bakkar VP Corporate Communication Al Fozan Holding Co. Al Khobar - Saudi Arabia mobile number <phone number redacted>

Done. But anyone can edit Wikipedia - including yourself - see the edit this page link up there? Almost any page can be edited or corrected. x42bn6 Talk 15:34, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

universal precaution[edit]

i need to find pictures on universal cauation69.114.214.145 15:27, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

adding an image[edit]

I am attempting to add an image to a page that I recently created, but when I do this,the picture takes up the entire page. How can I resolve this or how do I make the image smaller?Louwanda 16:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

You can make the image smaller by designating that it be displayed as a thumbnail. Write: [[Image:imagename.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Caption.]]. Set imagename.jpg as the name of your image, and you can specify the width in the number of pixels (e.g. 200px). If you want the image to be displayed on the left side of the page, change "right" to "left". Calliopejen1 17:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

8See Wikipedia:Image tutorial. - Mgm|(talk) 21:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Changing an Articles Name[edit]

OK guys. How do I change the overall name of an article? See it's like this: the article "Learning to Lie" is about a German Movie. The Movie is called "Liegen Lernen" in German, and I think that because there is no translation of this movie the article should be called like the movie was originally released. (Me-pawel 17:13, 22 April 2007 (UTC))

See WP:MOVE. An article's name can't be changed, it can only be moved to the new/correct name. Dismas|(talk) 17:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Adding A Page[edit]

How do I add a page to I relised that there is no information on "Stargate" The Movie (c) 1997

Thank you, Cody Kievlan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckievlan (talkcontribs)

Please check Stargate (disambiguation) to make sure there is no article on the movie you mentioned. To create a page, you should read Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article. PeaceNT 17:37, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, I don't think it's a good idea for a newbie to do this. Please take a look at WP:WELCOME before you start editing. PeaceNT 17:42, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Release dates (and thus copyright) differ from country to country. Make sure it's not the film first released in 1994 or the tv series. - Mgm|(talk) 20:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

User Page[edit]

Hello everyone, I am fairly strong with web design - but not Wikipedia layout and design - can anyone help me make my user page more visually appealing, or show me how to do it myself? Thanks! --Ali 17:49, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

There is a Wikiproject on user pages. You can find the instructions at WP:UPH, or you may go here or here and add your user page designing requests. Hope this helps PeaceNT 17:56, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Translation from other languages.[edit]

Hi, I'm translating another language's article into English. I've seen a tag before for this, but I can't remember what it is. Something to the effect of This article incorporates text from the French language article... Thanks, Oreo Priest 21:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Translated page can be used. PrimeHunter 22:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


Dear Help Desk:

I like Wikipedia and use it a lot, but often wind up having to drag out my dictionary anyway because entries generally lack pronunciation indications. I see in your stylebook that phonetic spelling is "deprecated" and that you encourage IPA spelling, which I assume most people like myself find confusing, difficult to resolve visually, for older folks anyway, and just sort of annoyingly effete. I wish you would re-think your "deprecation" of phonetic spelling; I suspect that's the reason people don't bother with providing pronunciation with entries, not wanting to deal with IPA and not quite understanding what being deprecated would involve. I wouldn't be surprised if non-native English speakers would have less trouble than you imagine understanding English phonetics, particularly if a link was available to a guide to phonetic sounds and their representation in English.

Gilliatt 21:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Gilliatt

See IPA_chart_for_English, and consider suggesting your idea at the Village Pump. Nihiltres(t.c.s) 21:05, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I prefer both. IPA for people who understand it, and phonetic spelling for the 95% of people to whom IPA is gobbledook and always will remain so no matter how many explanatory tables are produced and linked to. Matt 23:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

I would like to request help.[edit]

I am trying to edit a page on an anime. It does not include something that I feel needs to be included. I don't want to change the whole section, I just want to tack on a sentence or two. How and where do I do this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wraparound mindset (talkcontribs) 22:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC).

Each heading should have an [edit] link on the right side of it like all of the headings here do. Just click that for the relevant section. That will bring up a page with the text of the section in it. You can edit it like any word processor program. Just type in the sentences wherever you think it make sense. To see how it will look, click the "Show preview" button below the edit summary box. If you are satisfied, type in a descriptive edit summary (adding sentences about...), then click the Save page button. Make sure whatever you are adding meets the core content policies, namely verifiability and neutral point-of-view. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 22:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

HTML to Wiki translator[edit]

Does anyone know where I can find a simple HTML to Wiki translator? --HappyCamper 22:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

  • This isn't what you asked, but FWIW there is a Microsoft Word to wiki translator here. I have not used it, no warranty given. Herostratus 22:49, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

an article[edit]

well um, go to the Pine Street School article, and youll seeWillem199 22:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)willem199

Fixed it and warned the vandal. In the future, if you see something like that you can easily fix it yourself. See WP:REVERT for more details. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 22:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Occasionally, students at a school will vandalize the school's article. If this occurs and persists, see {{Schoolblock}}. --Teratornis 07:19, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

List of colour codes[edit]

Where can I find a list of all the colour codes? --98E 22:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

As there are million sof possible colors, there is no complete list. See List of colors for some common ones. Also see this site for more and it has a javascript applet to give codes for custom colors. Some art software has tools for this as well (I know Adobe Photoshop does, MS Paint does not). Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 23:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Web colors is also helpful. PeaceNT

Is there a podcast of wikipedia spoken articles?[edit]

And if I did some screen scraping and hacked one together would I get in trouble? -- Craigtalbert 23:12, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia shows this entry:
I don't know if that has anything to do with what you are asking about. As to whether you could get in trouble, you shouldn't get in trouble as long as you abide by the GFDL. I'm pretty sure Wikipedia prefers to be dumped rather than scraped, as scraping would load the servers more than downloading the dumps. --Teratornis 07:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
  • I think you want WP:RSS. It has an RSS feed for the spoken articles.- Mgm|(talk) 08:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, that's very helpful! -- Craigtalbert 15:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

svg image not displaying correctly[edit]

At List of Falkland Islands placenames there is what looks like a very good quality map of the Falklands aka Malvinas -- I'm talking about the English language version called "Falkland Islands topographic map-en.svg". The map looks absolutely fine in the article, but when I click on it to get a larger version, all I see on the image page is the blue sea. No islands, no placenames, no nothing. Is this just a problem with my browser setup? Does anyone else see the same? Anyone know what's going wrong? Matt 23:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC). (BTW, I am using IE 7)

It isn't just your browser. I'm seeing the same effect. Looking at the SVG file, it looks like there is an embedded PNG file that librsvg (the library used to render SVG files on Wikipedia) is not able to scale to display at sizes other than 350 pixels. It might be worthwhile to contact the author, commons:User:Sting, although I'm not sure what can be done to make this work with librsvg. Mike Dillon 23:46, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I just opened the image with rsvg-view on my local machine and it didn't seem to have any issues. I'm not sure what's actually breaking with the version of librsvg installed on the servers. I'm running librsvg 2.14.4 locally. Mike Dillon 23:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

All the wonderful colours[edit]

Would someone please have a look at the question I posed at Talk:Sesotho tonology? Have I reached the limits of what is possible in HTML on Wikipedia, or is there some way around this limitation?

Please respond there if that's fine.

Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 23:42, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

credits, helpme[edit]

helpme. i need to know, what is the publishers name so i can give credits?????

23:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)kendall

see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Calliopejen1 23:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)