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December 11[edit]

Vandalism on User Page[edit]

There has been some vandalism on my "My Page" page that doesn't show up in the editor. Someone has an issue with me, apparently, and decided the best way to discuss this issue was to put an anatomical picture that covers up my page. A sneaky way, and creative, since there isn't a direct trace, but apparently cowardly nonetheless.

I have previewed the page in the editing stage, and the picture does not show up.

Any suggestions on how to correct this? --Paploo (talk) 00:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Apparently cutting the code, saving, and repasting did the trick. Still curious about why there was no editing shown in putting it there in the first place. (Possible this was somebody's idea of a European regional flag?) --Paploo (talk) 00:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Since it didn't show up in edit mode or in the page's history, this is likely the result of template vandalism—a template you have on your page that is transcluded was vandalized and what you saw was not targeted at you at all, but was seen in all places that template is used. It would disappear not because of any change you made to your page, but because the vandalism to the template was reverted.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
(edit conflict) It sounds like somebody vandalized one of the images or templates on User:Paploo. It's unlikely it was aimed at you. Somebody must have reverted the vandalism elsewhere. Your blanking and reversion had no effect on the source since the diff shows no change. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
East718 has recently protected around 870 templates [1][2] of a kind used extensively on your page (through {{flagicon}}). Maybe this was a response to vandalism you saw. Note that you may not see vandalism has been reverted on a transcluded template before the page is edited or purged. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

merging of Dono to Japanese titles[edit]

I don't know how to merge articles, and a number of days ago, Dono was put up for merging into Japanese titles.Kitty53 (talk) 01:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Merging and moving pages#Performing the merger. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


It's a few days that when I click on the signature tab or put four tildes at the end of my comments, my username (Omidinist) does not appear. Is there something wrong? Thanks.-- (talk) 04:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

You are not logged in with your account. Click "Log in" at the top right of the page, enter your username and password, and then you will be logged in. Cheers! ArielGold 04:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, ArielGold. Omidinist (talk) 08:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

How much original research is tolerated?[edit]

I do not want to get into a fistfight. However, I see that there is original research in Wikipedia. What should I do? There is a column under "average". This average is not cited. I think someone just used a calculator and made the decision that all of the polls are of equal weight and no other survey should be included. I think that there should not be an average column unless cited. What do you think? Congolese (talk) 05:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll skip the fist fight too. It does look like OR, if it's resourced anywhere in the article I didn't find it.--Sandahl 06:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
It seems to be OR. To make matters worse I feel that the results are dubious, since the historical rankings appear to be an Ordinal measurement meaning that average is rather meaningless. Not having any backround in how these surveys are conducted I don't feel like beeing bold and removing them though. Taemyr (talk) 12:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

My watchlist is not working[edit]

From yesterday onwards, my watchlist page is not displaying any recent updates. What could be the reason?--Avinesh Jose (talk) 05:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

It's possible none of your watchlisted pages have been edited since yesterday.--Sandahl 06:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh it’s working fine now. I deleted temp browser files and cleaned up browser cookies. resolved issue. but this this the first time I am facing like this.--Avinesh Jose (talk) 06:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

logging on[edit]

I tottally forgot my user name, and password. As such I cannot log in. I tried about seven differnt usernames and password, and I even ued the index card where I keep such information, anddifferent case sensetive ways of eritting it. Please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

you get more details from here--Avinesh Jose (talk) 07:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
If you remember a page you have edited while logged in then you may be able to find your username by clicking "history" at the top and looking for your edit. If your account gave an e-mail address then you can click a button at login to e-mail a new password to it. If you are unable to access your old account then create a new. If you figure out your old username then you could write it on your new user page. Note that each Wikipedia language has separate accounts so a username from another language would not work. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

login problem[edit]

i cannot login or sign in your site by using my password regards Seyed Hasan Waheed

email removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia is not accepting my login password regards Syed hasan waheed

email removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

your site is not accepting my password regards Syed hasan waheed email removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Your current user name appears to be Syed Hasan Waheed. Use that to log in. Capitalization matters. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
This page is highly visible on the internet. I have removed yor email address to protect your privacy and reduce the amout of SPAM you might receive. Astronaut (talk) 17:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


full form of sib —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

SIB shows some things that SIB could stand for. I guess there are many others. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Edit war on page Bulk_email_software[edit]

on page the user Kashirin seems to like only its company links and removes other companies links. Tried to remove every link in the page to make it NPOW but he reverts.

please explain what to do —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I haven't examined the different company links, but see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and try talking to Kashirin, and give a link to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if you suspect that is the case. And maybe "Some of the best known ..." should be reformulated if there is no source. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest, I tried to open a "talk" file with Kashirin, but he didnt answer and reverted to his version of the page

Infoboxes with {{{data1}}}[edit]

Help desk/Archives
Active Wikipedian
— Wikipedian —
NGC6254 WikiUser.jpg
Name John Doe
Hobbies, favourites and beliefs

Webmaster for, photography,

astronomy, karaoke, chess and almost anything that ends in "-ology"

Sorry to bug you guys. I recently added the Infobox user template to my User page. I'm curious what the "{{{data1}}}" codes are all about. I see similar ones on other templates. I've read some of the documentation and help pages, but I'm still confused. Please help. Thanks - NGC6254 (talk) 09:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a template coder but I think data1, data2, ... are parameter names chosen by a template creator who may not have bothered to make a more descriptive name for the type of data entered there. See Help:Template#Parameters. {{Infobox user}} is rarely used. Click edit at User:Blacksmith#Who I Am to see an example of use. Addition: I see OwenBlacker is currently working on {{Infobox user}} which doesn't currently look like when I wrote the above. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
As PrimeHunter mentioned, things in triple braces are arguments to templates. So if you called {{Infobox user|data1=Hello world!}}, then {{{data1}}} would show "Hello world!".
Part of your problem might be that you subst'ed the template into the page, rather than just putting {{Infobox user}} in with some arguments, which might have been clearer to you. If you look at any article with an infobox on, you should be able to see what I mean. What you prolly want to do is add something like this:
{{Infobox user
| name     = John Doe
| image    = NGC6254 WikiUser.jpg
| caption  = My mugshot
| pictures = 50
| pages    = 800
| status   = Active Wikipedian
| hobbies  = Webmaster for [], [[photography]],
[[astronomy]], [[karaoke]], [[chess]] and almost anything that ends in "[[-ology]]"
| reading  = [[Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]]
, which would imply you've uploaded 50 images and made 800 pages, giving you a userbox like the one to the right here:
(Note I've changed the template some, partly to give the arguments more meaningful names, hence none of them is called {{{data1}}} in my example.)
Gimme a yell if you need any further help (though if you specifically want my help, please post to my talk page, as I might not notice an update here.
Hope this helps! — OwenBlacker (Talk) 14:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

You guys (and/or gals) are awesome! Thanks! ~ NGC6254 (can't sign, I'm at work.) ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

rotate text?[edit]

Is there any way to rotate text? Specifically is there a way to rotate text in a table heading cell, row spanning heading in the first table of Metal-organic framework where it says "dimensionality of organic?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Furmanj (talkcontribs) 11:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

No, that's not something that HTML supports. You can add line breaks in, with <br>, but that's about it, I believe. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 14:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I don't know a good way. A problematic way is to create an image and insert it in the cell. I just made Image:Dimensionality of Organic.png and here it is in the table:
Classification of hybrid materials based on dimensionality [1]
Dimensionality of Inorganic
Dimensionality of Organic 0 1 2 3
0 Molecular Complexes Hybrid Inorganic Chains Hybrid Inoragnic Layers 3-D Inorganic Hybrids
1 Chain Coordination Polymers Mixed Inorganic-Organic Layers Mixed Inorganic-Organic 3-D Framework
2 Layered Coordination Polymer Mixed Inorganic-Organic 3-D Framework
3 3-D Coordination Polymers
Maybe somebody else has a better solution. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
That will work, but it's not great for web accessibility. If you put in alt text, it's not quite so bad, though; I've edited your example to do just that, PrimeHunter. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 15:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

How do I upload an image onto an existing page[edit]

I want to add an image to an existing page (Mikhail Prokhorov). I have successfully uploaded the image onto the site but I don't know how to get it onto the page I want it to be on. Please advise RLFPartnership (talk) 12:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Write image description here
See Help:Images and other uploaded files#Linking. You could for example write [[Image:Prokhorov01.JPG|right|thumb| 250px|Write image description here]]. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


Hi, I'm working for AIBA (International Boxing Association), and I'd like changing the logo.

I tried to do by the sandbox but unsuccessfully.

Could you help me?

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Usbi (talkcontribs)

Your account has no sandbox edits so I cannot see what went wrong. See Help:Images and other uploaded files. You can upload a new logo (if it isn't uploaded already) to a new file name, and click "edit this page" at International Boxing Association. Or you can try to replace the existing logo at Image:Aiba logo.JPG. Come back if you still have problems, and try to be more specific about the problem. If you give a link to the logo and possibly copyright information for it then maybe somebody else will upload and add it for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

How to suggest deletion[edit]

I am trying (very reluctantly indeed) to suggest that Rayuan Pulau Kelapa be deleted, even though I like the article. However, I seem to quarrel with the AfD process, and my comment does not appear on the proper page, but only emerges as a separate Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rayuan Pulau Kelapa. What am I doing wrong? Bessel Dekker (talk) 14:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Seems to work now, rather surprisingly. Bessel Dekker (talk) 15:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I'll reply anyway. You have to transclude the entry on today's list by enclosing the entire name of the nomination page in template brackets, like this: {{Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rayuan Pulau Kelapa}}. Certain automated scripts like Twinkle will do this for you. Hersfold (t/a/c) 15:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your relply. In fact, I thought I had done just that! However, I will be very careful in the future, and certainly bear your advice in mind. Bessel Dekker (talk) 15:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I fixed it in [3]. You didn't use {{subst:afd2 | pg=PageName | cat=Category | text=Reason the page should be deleted}} ~~~~, as descibed at II in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to list pages for deletion. You edited Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2007 December 11 correctly and your comment actually did appear, but without it's own section and links. Your text was just appended to the preceding section Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2007 December 11#The People's Club. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the slipshod work, and than ks again! Bessel Dekker (talk) 15:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Two of the same pages[edit]

Hi, i recently started making the Barry hawkes page, and then Movedgood renamed it to Barry Hawkes, which i was trying to do. So i then tried to delete the old page but im sure how that can be done as im new to this. Both pages are the same but the good one is the one called Barry Hawkes. If you could help me i would be very grateful. thanks lee —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leeironmonger1987 (talkcontribs) 15:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Only administrators can delete pages. Barry hawkes currently redirects to Barry Hawkes and that is OK so the redirect doesn't have to be deleted. If you are the only substantial contributor to a page then you can request deletion by placing {{db-author}} on it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

adding to wikipedia.[edit]

Hello, I know that you explain how to post on wikipedia but It was unclear on how to directly do it. If you could help me that would be great. I am trying to put a form of core exercise on here called core fusion. It is trademarked but I dont see any reaosn why it shouldnt be on wikipedia. It deserves to be on here!! If you could ust explain step by step to me how to do it that would help me out tremendously. thank you,

core fusion addict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

An article could be created by editing Core fusion.
You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:16, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Adding a useful link to an outside website[edit]

There is a new informative website about the village of East Glacier Park, Montana:

I'd like to add it to W as a link on the East Glacier Park page but am unsure how to do it. I'm a novice and did not understand the directions.

Thank you.

Maria Folsom67.142.130.20 (talk) 16:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


It could be added by clicking edit at East Glacier Park Village, Montana#External links. I don't know which directions you have seen. If Wikipedia:External links is not enough then come back. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I would like to contribute my theory about creation on the first page[edit]

Here is a summery of my book

Mr. Travis Smiley and associates, I am a Black author from Indianapolis, Indiana. I have spent the last seven years doing research about the first book of the bible, Genesis. I have composed a substantial amount of evidence to support the fact that Genesis is the true story of an ancient African Ruler in Ethiopia.

The book of Genesis has been retranslated by the controversial Black author Kevin A. Lee. Kevin uses dictionaries from over one hundred years old and from over seas to destroy what he calls lies and deception. He states that Genesis was indeed the story of an ancient African Ruler who built a historical dam in order to feed a nation in a time of famine. It was a worthless piece of land, equivalent to a dry desert. The dam miraculously turned the dry land into a farm equipped with a high tech irrigation system that later became known as the Garden of Eden.

Mr. Lee also states this wonderful story never would have been told had not he discovered who wrote the book of Genesis and his purpose. This dam was not only used to feed a nation, it was also used to control the only world in which they lived. You see, this dam sent water down four rivers; one of them was the Nile. The Rulers famous saying was, “Whosoever controls the water rules the world.”

In Mr. Lee’s book, he states that Genesis was written by Joseph, son of Abraham. He makes this claim based on the reoccurring ending of old testament books of the bible; the person who dies at the end of the Hebrew books were usually the author. Joseph died at the end of Genesis.

The story begins with Joseph running for a political office to become the second head of Egypt. He is soon placed in prison when his opponents reveal his adulterous sins as an adolescent. On the witness stand Joseph diverts the conversation and testifies about his greatest ancestor who was considered a god and how he turned a dry wasted desert into a wonderful paradise called, The Garden of Eden. This story fascinated the King of Egypt because famine plagued the land. Joseph then took seven days to tell this story, knowing the laws stated that any perpetrator who remains free for seven days was a free man. Here Joseph makes plans to not only escape the charges against him; he secretly orchestrated a plan to become elected the second head of Egypt. Mr. Lee states in his book that it did not take seven days to create the world, it took seven days for Joseph to tell the story you are about to hear.

On the first day of creation, the bible said God created heaven, earth and light. Mr. Lee says that earth could not have been created because the word earth back then was defined as topsoil, otherwise dust, dirt or mud. Heaven could not have been created because back then the word heaven was defined as up or something far away. Mr. Lee says that Joseph was narrating the book of Genesis and in this introduction he was giving credit to whom credit is due. Mr. Lee said the ruler started a fire on the mountain to call thousands of workers to build a dam to reserve water for the dry season. The fire was on the side of a mountain could be seen for miles.

On the second day the bible said God separated the water above from the water below with a firmament. In the book Joseph tells the king of Egypt and the senate that the water above was separated from the water below with a firmament, which Mr. Lee believes was in all reality a dam.

On the third day the bible said God made grass and the trees. Mr. Lee said Joseph was telling the King of Egypt and the senate how the dam made it possible to grow fruit trees and a garden that before now they could never grow due to a lack of a continuous supply of water.

On the fourth day the bible said God made the two lights. Mr. Lee states that Joseph was explaining time and how they used the stars, sun and moon to tell the seasons. Joseph said the celestial bodies were the time clock in the sky was used to tell them when to plant seeds and when to harvest. Mr. Lee also states that the light on the mountain was used as a warning system for invading armies that may want to invade the land for food and water.

On the fifth day the bible said God created animals. Mr. Lee believes that Joseph told the King of Egypt the predicament of having a garden was all the birds and animals that came from the wilderness to eat the food in their garden. The wild animals also ate the fish in the streams for food.

On the sixth day the bible said God created humans, both male and female. Mr. Lee states that Joseph was simply telling the King of Egypt that the solution to the problem of the birds and animals eating their garden was scarecrows. So they reached into the ground to pick up sticks, sand and clay to build statues of people to scare away the animals. The statues were scarecrows in the garden. They also built beautiful statues of females to make their garden beautiful.

On the seventh day the bible said God rested. Mr. Lee states Joseph was the one that rested, knowing the laws his plan worked well. Joseph had been out of the dungeon for seven days. Never again would he have to endure the dungeon full of dead bodies, rats and snakes again. On the seventh day Joseph was elected second head of Egypt, the only person Joseph bowed to was the King himself. Dressed in royalty, Joseph was endowed with titles magnifying his deity. If that did not make for a good ending, Joseph also got the girl.

For thousands of years this story was told around the world in all language, by word of mouth. When it was made possible to record this story, the myths of Egypt and other countries destroyed the truth, definition of words changed, and the story was lost forever. Now after seven thousand years, the memories of a dead Ruler has resurrected. What you are about to read is the true account of what occurred in a garden called Eden.

Now without further ado I give this book to the world free of charge. Log on to and read the most powerful story on earth from beginning to end.

If you have comments you can reach Mr. Lee at <email removed>

Thank You,

Kevin A. Lee —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

You may want to consider submitting your article to Articles for Creation, but without verifiable sources and proof that this is more than original research and advertising, it is very likely to be declined. Also, the articles you see featured on the main page are examples of featured articles, which require a substantial amount of work and a nomination process before being given FA status. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:20, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd suggest not posting this, as it will probably be deleted as original research. — Rudget Talk 18:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Little Women (musical) external links[edit]

Dear Sir / Madam,

My theatrical company are performing Little Women on 20th-23rd of Feb 2008, can we add a link to your website on the external links part of the page?

Many thanks,

Jo Wickham —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I see the account Singingjojo created 5 minutes after your post here has added it.[5] I don't normally edit theater articles but Wikipedia is an International encyclopedia and this appears questionable to me for a little known theatrical company. I have removed it. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:External links. It could be suggested at Talk:Little Women (musical). PrimeHunter (talk) 17:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Question regarding altered page[edit]

Hello, my name is Matt Peirce, username courthouseman. I'm passing this on because although I am technically an "administrator" or "guide" and have the power to change/edit pages, I don't know how to edit that one as it has been altered somewhat significantly (It wasn't me !!)

Some wise ass altered the page for "Eugene O'Neil" Read the 1st page or so and you'll see what I mean. If you can not change to the previous (correct) form, please pass this along to someone who can.

Thank you! Matt Peirce —Preceding unsigned comment added by Courthouseman (talkcontribs) 16:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Eugene O'Neill was vandalized 30 minutes ago and I have reverted it. See Help:Reverting. You have an account so you are a registered editor, but you are not an administrator. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[edit] This page has an inappropriate image overlaid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

What do you refer to and is it still there? Apart from the scale in {{POV-check}} I don't see any image (except a small Russian flag), but it's not impossible that a transcluded template has previously displayed an inappropriate image. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Yep, one of the templates used to display information on medal winners got a round of penis image vandalism a day or two ago. It should all be fixed now, but if it isn't then try purging the page's cache). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I can't find the answer anywhere else...[edit]

this is going to sound REALLY STUPID. But, can i sue a company, for copying information off wikipedia? I mean, IT IS A REAL COMPANY, not a small, unknown one. I just wonder.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

The answer's at this location. The license Wikipedia uses grants free access to our content in the same sense as free software is licensed freely. This principle is known as copyleft. That is to say, Wikipedia content can be copied, modified, and redistributed so long as the new version grants the same freedoms to others and acknowledges the authors of the Wikipedia article used (a direct link back to the article satisfies our author credit requirement). Wikipedia articles therefore will remain free under the GFDL and can be used by anybody subject to certain restrictions, most of which serve to ensure that freedom.

To fulfill the above goals, the text contained in Wikipedia is copyrighted (automatically under the Berne Convention) by Wikipedia contributors and licensed to the public under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). The full text of this license is at Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License. This text must not be changed. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'm not a lawyer and don't speak on behalf of Wikipedia or Wikimedia. I'm not sure what the perceived problem is, for example possibly illegal content originating from Wikipedia, or a copyright issue? Note that copying Wikipedia content is allowed when the GFDL is followed. See Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. If you have contributed content to Wikipedia then you have agreed to license your contributions under the GFDL. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

show times[edit]

i was just wondering when you were going to be coming back to the virginia beach area? my fiance really likes your shows and he missed your last one. if it will be a while for virginia beach , were will your next shows be? my name is amanda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok this is Random. should it be deleted? Again same post The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 18:26, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the duplicate. This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia. Maybe you saw one of our more than 2 million articles and thought we were a help desk for the article subject. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Template question[edit]

I have searched the site to no end and for the life of me can not find the "template" companies such as verizon, vanco and BT used to post information. Is it possible to send me to the right page or tell me how they all did this to look exactly the same? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmarrier (talkcontribs) 19:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

You are probably referring to {{Infobox company}}. --teb728 t c 20:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I hope you are aware that representatives of the companies you name did not write the articles about themselves, and that their employees, shareholders, etc. are actively discouraged from editing the articles. We have standards about conflict of interest and self-aggrandizement in article editing on Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, unfortunately, representatives of some organizations are not above astroturfing their articles, in violation of Wikipedia guidelines. See CIA and Vatican edit Wikipedia entries. --Teratornis (talk) 08:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


what is temperare? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you look at the Temperature article. ~ Bella Swan 20:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Or if you want to know the temperature at a specific location you can use google. For instance search for temperature New York to get [6]. --Kudret abiTalk 08:30, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


what is temperare?/how do we determine the body temperature?/how does the weather affects our temperature?/how do we use a themometer to take a temperature measurement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:41, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Try looking at the Temperature article.   jj137 Talk 21:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
And if that isn't enough then: Have you tried the science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

posting article[edit]

I have an article I would like to post that is linked to the political reframing discussion and I have spent about 2 hours trying to find the portal for my article and I have been stumped. My article is in MSWORD and saved in html format...whatever floats your boat. :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve Love (talkcontribs) 20:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by "the political reframing discussion"? Most articles are not posted via any kind of portal, and I'm a trifle puzzled. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
When you talk about the “political reframing discussion” it sounds like your article is original research or a personal essay. If either is the case, then Wikipedia is not the place for it; Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. --teb728 t c 21:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm also baffled about what your article is about. If you place it somewhere on the Internet and post a link then maybe we can say whether it's something for Wikipedia and if so, where to place it. We don't accept Word or all HTML, but Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content from other formats to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format and Help:WordToWiki may be of use if your article is suited for WIkipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


Is it possible to make my own javascipts on wikipedia? AHRtbA== Talk 20:59, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

You can use your monobook to insert javascript that will modify your monobook.   jj137 Talk 21:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Firefox still having issues loading images[edit]

The problem is that images are still not loading (they just keep trying to load (ie have that circly thingy spinning FOREVER in the tab)) even after consulting this:

I cannot do the step "3. Clear the "for the originating web site only" checkbox" because I do not have a checkbox like that presented to me... I'm sure if I had such a checkbox this wouldn't be a big problem... maybe it isn't a big problem at all and I'm just making it as such.

Nineball (talk) 21:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, I'm mentally retarded... it works for some unknown reason now @_@

Nineball (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

How do I make an image template box?[edit]

How do I make an image template box?

Panarchy (talk) 21:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you be more specific? Your question could mean different things. Do you want to place a box with information and an image in an article? I see you have already done that with {{Infobox Comedian}} in Rodney Marks. If you want to find another type of infobox for another article then try Wikipedia:List of infoboxes. Or maybe you want to create a new type of infobox? See Help:Template for that. Or maybe you just want an image in a box with a caption and incorrectly think it requires a template. See Help:Images and other uploaded files for that. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:17, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Invalid XML entities[edit]

There appear to be some invalid XML entities such as


that occur on older pages which make XML parsing of Wikipedia difficult. The original author of some such entities claims he does not remember adding it. (See User_talk:Fvw#Your_signature). Any idea why these occur, and tips for dealing with them? Thanks. Pkalmar (talk) 22:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, all these are from the signature of Fvw in December 2004 (and it doesn't affect articles which are signature free). I don't know whether the signature was faulty at the time or incompatible with later software or what. If it causes problems then I suggest a bot request to fix the bad signatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:45, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

List of seiyu[edit]

Why was the article list of seiyuu deleted?Kitty53 (talk) 22:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Please see the deletion discussion for this page. And note that it was List of seiyū, not List of seiyu, which was a redirect to the former. Leebo T/C 22:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Granted, upon reviewing that AfD, the consensus for deleting it was very weak, with pointless comments such as the last one. If you can make a case for restoring it, you could bring it to deletion review. Leebo T/C 22:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
(e.c.*2) Admins always leave a reason for deletion. Let's see:
If you would like the page to be undeleted, take it to Deletion review. You can also recreate the page, but keep in mind that is eligible to be speedily deleted under CSD G4 if the new version does not significantly differ from the old one. NF24(radio me!) 22:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
But I did not create them myself before they were deleted.Kitty53 (talk) 00:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
That wouldn't matter. It's not the creator that matters, it's the content. If you recreate what was deleted through discussion without taking it to deletion review, it can be deleted under WP:CSD#G4. Leebo T/C 01:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
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