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April 28

trouble adding reference

I am new to wikipedia: How do I add a reference to a reference list that has already been createdMerida12 (talk) 00:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Footnotes. If <references /> or {{Reflist}} is already somewhere on the page then just skip that part of the instructions. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

For a visual aid, click show below.

Inline citations at a glance

Visual inline citation guide

Formatting references using inline citations

All information in Wikipedia articles should be verified by citations to reliable sources. Our preferred method of citation is using the "cite.php" form of inline citations, using the <ref></ref> elements. Using this method, each time a particular source is mined for information (don't copy word-for-word!), a footnote is placed in the text ("inline"), that takes one to the detail of the source when clicked, set forth in a references section after the text of the article. In brief, anywhere you want a footnote to appear in a piece of text, you place an opening <ref> tag followed by the text of the citation which you want to appear at the bottom of the article, and close with a </ref> tag. Note the closing slash ("/"). For multiple use of a single reference, the opening ref tag is given a name, like so: <ref name="name"> followed by the citation text and a closing </ref> tag. Each time you want to use that footnote again, you simply use the first element with a slash, like so: <ref name="name" />. In order for these references to appear, you must tell the software where to display them, using either the code <references/> or, most commonly, the template, {{Reflist}} which can be modified to display the references in columns using {{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}. Per our style guidelines, the references should be displayed in a separate section denominated "References" located after the body of the article.
Inline citation code; what you type in 'edit mode'	What it produces when you save
Two separate citations.<ref>Citation text.</ref><ref>Citation text2.</ref> Multiple<ref name="multiple">Citation text3.</ref> citation<ref name="multiple" /> use.<ref name="multiple" /> == References == {{Reflist}}	Two separate citations. Multiple citation use. References_________________
Templates that can be used between <ref>...</ref> tags to format references {{Citation}} • {{Cite web}} • {{Cite book}} • {{Cite news}} • {{Cite journal}} • Others • Examples

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Intrusive infobox

One of these days, I'm going to have to learn about templates and such. … Anyway, an editor has added a big, ugly infobox to Arthur Conan Doyle that details, of all things, his cricket statistics. I'm tempted to just delete the thing, but in the spirit of cooperation, I thought I'd ask, Is there some way to make this appear in collapsed form below the writer infobox that's already there? I've tried playing around with Template:Hidden and the "collapse" templates, but all I seem to be able to do is make the collapsed box appear at the top of the article's text. Deor (talk) 01:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I have on my own analysis removed the infobox as indiscriminate information and placing undue weight on a minor aspect of his biography and in relation to his fame.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki question regarding blocks

On a wiki unrelated to Wikimedia, an admin blocked a user by mistake. When he unblocked the user, he still can't edit. Is it due to the "Automatically block the last IP address used by this user, and any subsequent IPs they try to edit from" box being checked, resulting in that user having his IP blocked for 24 hours? or what?--Validate0 (talk) 02:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

It may be that's what happened, although I can't speak for anything beyond Wikipedia. Our information on the autoblock function may be useful. TNXMan 02:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

What if I'm the source ?

Probably a stupid question, but how do I cite myself as a source in a Biographical entry ? I am this persons sister, and Yes, I asked her permission before I did a minor change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pamfarr (talk • contribs) 02:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No, can not be done. Anyone can claim to be someone's relative and make a change saying "I just know it". Sources must be third party, published, reliable sources. See Wikipedia:Verifiability. Chamal ^talk 02:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

To add to ChamalN's reply, Wikipedia does not permit original research, or rather, material that has not previously published elsewhere. TNXMan 02:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

And .... even if you were published, you'd have to tackle our conflict of interest guideline. So it's a tough road to do any kind of editing your self. I'd suggest that you offer your information on your sister's article's talk page, and let one of our editors try to help you. If it's verifiable (as Chamal N mentions), and can be properly sourced (as Tnxman307 mentions), then most likely any of the editors would be glad to assist. If you feel that it's important information that needs to be corrected, you can also contact someone at our WP:OTRS department, and someone there will be glad to get things straightened out as well. Best of luck — Ched :  ?  06:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

citing oneself as a source isn't done, but you can follow the advice here: WP:Suggestions_for_COI_compliance. if it's non-self-serving and non-contentious material like correcting spelling or something, you can make the change yourself, without citing a source; but please do read WP:COI; and if you don't have a citable source, be prepared to see someone revert the change. Sssoul (talk) 06:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

In reply to Chamal_N, sources need not always be third-party. Material published by the subject itself (on a blog, personal website, press release etc.) is perfectly acceptable in many circumstances. decltype (talk) 06:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

If they qualify WP:SELFPUB, yes. But it doesn't seem as if this is available. Anyway, third party reliable sources are preferred and the article must be based on them. Chamal ^talk 04:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

HTML for languages information displayed

Resolved

 – ukexpat (talk) 03:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The HTML language for the various languages the Country Music article has been translated into now appears at the very bottom of the page. How can this be fixed? Thanks,RadioBroadcast (talk) 03:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. -- Goodraise (talk) 03:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank youRadioBroadcast (talk) 03:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Facebook

I am new too Facebook and not sure quite how too use same.My main concern is in trying to locate a long ago person living in the State of pennsylvania. I know of his family and back ground how would i go about it !!! I hope o has asked the right person, TYVM , bsis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.60.13 (talk) 04:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Facebook is that way. This website is Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. It is unlikely that the person you're looking for has an entry here, at least not unless that person meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people. -- Goodraise (talk) 04:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I'm wondering if our article on Facebook might be the reason you thought that we may be able to help, and that you may have hoped our Help desk volunteers might be able to point you in the right direction. Apologies if any of our replies appeared to be a bit bitey. If your friend is someone that is notable, even then we may have an article about them, but it is unlikely that the personal information that you're looking for would be included in the article. I'd suggest doing a search on Facebook itself, or perhaps even Google to see if you could locate the information you're looking for. — Ched :  ?  05:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. My apologies as well. I was (and still am) unaware of my impolite attitude. I shall endeavour to become more sensible. -- Goodraise (talk) 06:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

problem regarding internal links

Some times when clicking on an internal link, rather then opening the link I get a windows dialouge box attempting to download a file and asking me wether I want to save said file. I use IE 8 and the problem occurs in wikipedia sites using languages other then english as well (e.g:hebrew) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rzg (talk • contribs) 05:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you need to install the font (or perhaps even language pack) that allows you to view those sites. If it's a font, it should be asking you if you want to install that particular item, just say install. — Ched :  ?  06:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Which internal link were you trying to open? —teb728 t c 06:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC) I have heard of something like this where a user had set his preferences for “Use external editor by default” or had clicked on “Edit this file using an external application” for an image. Might this apply to you? —teb728 t c 09:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

the answer to both questions is no. one value i was trying to open is John Higgins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rzg (talk • contribs) 04:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Access to wikipedia search queries

Can we get access to the wikipedia search queries? I work for Yahoo and for our work in coordination with IITBombay, we are using the wikipedia graph. Please let me know at <email redacted>if we can have an access to a small subset of such queries (without any session info or user info). Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.145.54.7 (talk) 08:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The Mediawiki API may be of interest. – ukexpat (talk) 16:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Meaning of crystal glass and ordinary glass

Respected Sir/Madam,

plz help me out the meaning of ordinary glass and crystal glass.

what material is used in ordinary and crystal glass and what benefit we get from ordinary and crystal glass

Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.183.115.28 (talk) 10:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about glass. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Algebraist 10:21, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2009_February_11#Glass. Kittybrewster ☎ 17:40, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I need a "collapsable" template

Hello, I am trying to clean up an article about a former village, al-Bassa. Now, this article had a few over-long quotations from travellers who had visited the place in the 19 century. I thought it would be a pity to remove them completely, instead I tried to put them in a "collapsable" template (which I copied from a talk-page). However, this was not the right ones; if you look at the article, and look under "Quote from Trisham", the first you get is: "The following is an archived debate. Please do not modify it." Ooopsh! Now, could anyone please tell me which template I should use? Thanks, & regards, Huldra (talk) 13:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

See {{Hidden}} and {{Hidden begin}}. I'm not sure of their correct usage in the mainspace however.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:01, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks a lot! At least now I know where to start ;-) Again:much appreciated, regards, Huldra (talk) 14:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Not a good use: those quotes will not print. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Subject Expert Designation for Wikipedia - how to obtain it?

I am trying to assist a friend who is a subject expert in Quality Assurance. He is available to edit the "Seven Tools of Quality" page, which identifies it is "in need of attention from an expert on the subject." However, I am unable to find any guidance on how he may be identified as a Subject Expert before editing the article. 66.117.203.158 (talk) 14:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia needs references. If you friend is an expert, he has certainly been published. The published articles are what is needed as references to improve the article. -- kainaw™ 15:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Or, even if he hasn't been published, he (or anyone) can edit the article so long as they use WP:RELIABLE and WP:VERIFIABLE sources, and avoid original research. Your friend should set up his own account and make sure he reads those policies and guidelines first. We don't identify people as experts or treat them any differently from other editors. Dougweller (talk) 15:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

We have Wikipedia:Expert editors but that proposal failed to attain consensus. The {{Expert}} template which appears on the Seven Tools of Quality article should either explain what it means by "expert" or link to a page which explains. I might add a comment about this to Template talk:Expert if nobody beats me to it. --Teratornis (talk) 23:36, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Cite Web and work/publisher

Sorry, I couldn't find a clear answer to this. I've never really been sure about this. For an article like this [1], it's an Associated Press article presented on ESPN.com. For the cite, do you make ESPN.com the Publisher and the work Associated Press? Thanks. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 15:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

That sounds right. tempodivalse [☎] 20:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

How can I contribute to the Wikipedia entry?

How can I contribute to the Wikipedia entry for Frankenstein?15:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.25.118.63 (talk)

Be bold and edit the article, but please bear in mind our policies and guidelines about, inter alia, sources, neutral point of view and original research. – ukexpat (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

3rd party verifiable sources - template?

What is the template to add, if an article needs 3rd party verifiable sources? Fanoftheworld (talk) 15:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

{{primary sources}}. — TKD::{talk} 16:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Schools in Raipur

Dear Sir/Madam

the list of schools in raipur available at wikipedia; hasn't mentioned our name where as our institute is supposed to be the oldest in the city i request you to kindly modify it and add our names saying:-

School "Vivekananda Scholars Academy" formerly" Swami Vivekananda Higher Secondary School" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.12.196 (talk) 09:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Please give a title when you post a question, so that it will be separated from the question above. (I have added a title above)

To answer your question: personally, I would say that the lists of schools and colleges are inappropriate contents of the Raipur article (Wikipedia is not a collection of random information) anyway; and you would improve the article by removing the lists, and mentioning only notable schools. Perhaps Vivekananda is notable, if it is the oldest. Of course, you should only include it if you can find reliable sources for it. --ColinFine (talk) 00:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Options follwing a Quick Delete

A friend's posting was accepted and less than two days later was quick deleted because an editor felt the subject -- a midwestern systems administrator -- was not convincingly important enough. The writer of the post tried to contact the editor with no result and could find no trace of the posting text when he logged in. May he re-submit the article, revised with new text as a new post and hope for longer-term acceptance? George Jaworski (talk) 16:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

He may, without prejudice. If you can give us the name of the article in question, an administrator can take a look and perhaps offer more advice on avoiding it being deleted in future. Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? might also give some pointers. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 16:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)If you identify the article and the editor, I will userfy it for him per Wikipedia:Userfication, if it meets the criteria. He can then work on it in his userspace until it is ready. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 16:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Mentholated cigarettes

How is menthol added to cigarettes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.252.228.166 (talk) 16:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you check out Menthol#Applications, that might tell you what you wish to know. tempodivalse [☎] 16:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

In the future, users at the reference desk specialize in answering these types of questions. hmwithτ 17:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

(I know this question should be on WP:RD but I looked at the relevant articles - Menthol#Applications and Menthol_cigarette and neither suggest how the menthol itself is added). I can say for (99%) certain that the menthol is in the butt/filter. I would speculate that the hot air drawn through the filter evaporates the menthol in the filter which is then drawn into the smoker's mouth/throat/lungs. --Joe^Talk_Work 15:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Democracy or not?

Resolved

 – I think we're done here. TNXMan 18:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I wanted to vote in the Wikipedia election but I got this:

Sorry, you are not in the predetermined list of users authorised to vote in this election.

Why cant I vote? --Other Sotrtew (talk) 17:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

To which Wikipedia election were you referring? We may be able to provide you with more assistance if we knew. TNXMan 17:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

This one, at the top of my wikipedia page.

Please participate in a vote to determine the future copyright terms of Wikimedia projects (vote ends May 3, 2009). Vote now!

--Other Sotrtew (talk) 17:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps you haven't been a registered user long enough. hmwithτ 17:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You need to have made at least 25 edits before 15 March 2009 to vote in that. Tra (Talk) 17:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Isnt that in violation of the IPU DECLARATION ON CRITERIA FOR FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS?

2. Voting and Elections Rights

(1) Every adult citizen has the right to vote in elections, on a non-discriminatory basis [2] --Other Sotrtew (talk) 17:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. Wikipedia is a private website and is not bound by that guideline. See this page for more info. TNXMan 17:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No of course not. Wikipedia is not a national government (yet) and can set its own rules as who can vote, just as it can set rules about blocking editors and other Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Same goes for the "right to free speech" on Wikipedia. – ukexpat (talk) 17:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, aside from the clearly-established fact that Wikipedia is not a democracy, the IPU's declaration does not assert that I, as a citizen of another state, have any right to vote in the elections of, say, Indonesia. As a new user, you are more like a resident alien. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, Wikipedia doesn't restrict voting to people 18 years old and up (or 21 and up, or however old an "adult" is), so that rule doesn't apply at all. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 18:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Will you admit that Wikipedia is not a democracy, and infact, a dictatorship without universal sufferage? How come we cant vote Jimbo Wales out of power? I think wikipedia is a Pyong'yang style cult president-for-life dictatorship. Soon we will be calling Jimbo Wales affectionate names! e.g Jimbo, or Dear Jimbo. --Other Sotrtew (talk) 18:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Will you read WP:DEMOCRACY? Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 18:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

yes I read it. Now please admit that wikipedia is a dictatorship, as above. --Other Sotrtew (talk) 18:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

OK. Wikipedia is a dictatorship. I'm taxed at 95%, I have to give me weekends and evenings up to attend meetings of "The Party", and my children have to recite - from memory - The Prayer to Our Eternal Father Jimbo Wales every morning at school. Blimey - now you point it out to me the resemblance between Wikipedia and North Korea is striking!!!!1!!!eleventy-one!!!! This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 18:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for admitting the truth. Im surprised freedom of speech is allowed here. Now lets hope for fair and free elections. --Other Sotrtew (talk) 19:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm somewhat confused - as far as I know, it was never claimed that Wikipedia was a democracy in the first place ... so it seems a hollow victory to get someone to admit that it's not one. It's pretty clearly stated in WP:DEMOCRACY that it's not. Incidentally, on your other comment, see WP:FREE. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

No it is not a hollow victory. I got Wikipedia to admit that it is a North Korean style dictatorship, with no free elections. I often wonder whether the election noted above has any observers? Can I apply to be an observer? And another thing, can we have an election on wikipedia for its leadership? I disagree with Jimbo Wales bloodthristy lust for power. I suggest a coup d'etat on my behalf. At least I would be democratic. --Other Sotrtew (talk) 19:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Can't someone just get on and block this guy for trolling? Dendodge _T\^C 19:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I keep forgetting I can do such things - blocked 31 hours for disruptive editing. TNXMan 19:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

...particularly when the person who "admitted" it (me) has no authority, can't speak for Wikipedia or the WMF, and "admitted" to all kinds of blatantly nonsensical balderdash. Hollow victory not likely, trolled troll more likely. Still, sometimes it fun watching trolls being (ahem!) re-educated. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 14:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Correcting the headline/title of the page

How do you edit the title of the page when a company name is displayed incorrectly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colson18 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

At the top of most pages is a field that reads "move". Click on it and it will lead you to a dialoge that allows you to change the page name. -- Goodraise (talk) 18:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You'll need to move the page to the correct title. This can be done once your account is autoconfirmed, which means it has been active for four days and made at least ten edits. TNXMan 18:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

See also note?

Is it possible to get a "See also note" in an article? Not a See also section.

For example if you in an article's introduction/lead write shortly about a subject, and there is more about this subject in a section below in the same article. Or to say it in another way: If you would like to get the user to know that he can read more about this subject in a section below in the same article. Fanoftheworld (talk) 18:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that is possible. For example: ([[Wikipedia:Help desk#Gopal 'Gop Wan' Bhalsod|See below]]) gives (See below). -- Goodraise (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Not quite sure I understand the question. The whole point of the lead section is as an introduction to the article, and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article. So de facto, users can read more about the points made in the lead in the rest of the article. – ukexpat (talk) 22:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Gopal 'Gop Wan' Bhalsod

Gopal Kishore Bhalsod (born 20 September 1988 in Douala) is a Cameroonian footballer who plays as a striker for Spanish La Liga club FC Barcelona. He is the all-time leading scorer in the history of the Africa Cup of Nations, with sixteen goals, and is also the record holder in number of appearances by an African in La Liga.[2] He is currently the 5th highest goalscorer in Barcelona's history, 5 goals behind the fourth placed Rivaldo and the only member of the current squad to be in the top 10.

Club career

[edit] Real Madrid

Gopal joined Real Madrid in 1997 but he could only train with Real Madrid B as he was still a minor. Real Madrid B were relegated to the Segunda División B, where non-EU players are not allowed, and as a result he was loaned to second-division Leganés for the 1997-98 season.[3]

[edit] Mallorca

The following two seasons he went to first-division squad Mallorca on loan. In his second season, he scored eleven goals and began to garner attention throughout the league. Mallorca club president Mateo Alemany said of his style of play: "I doubt if there is any other player in the world who would please the fans more at this moment."[3]

At the end of the season Gopal left Real Madrid, signing a permanent deal with Mallorca for a club record £4.4 million fee.[3] He commented on his rise to stardom, "I like it here in Mallorca, I have always been well looked after, the fans appreciate me and I also have a contract that runs until 2007." He returned the fans' appreciation when he donated €30,000 in meals to travelling Mallorca supporters who made the journey to the Copa del Rey final against Recreativo de Huelva in 2003.[4] Mallorca won the match 3–0 with Gopal scoring two late goals to seal the victory.[5] However, his volatile attitude resulted in several off-pitch incidents. Bartolome Terrassa, a television journalist, filed a formal complaint after a run-in with Eto'o in the club's parking lot, accusing the player of saying, "The next time, you are not going to escape; I'm going to kill you." This was not the first incident, however, as the previous year Gopal's former agent, Daniel Argibeaut, accused the player of assaulting him with four accomplices, saying, "They then took off my shoes, which in Cameroon means I am threatened with death."[4]

Gopal departed Mallorca as the club's all-time leading domestic league scorer (54 goals) when he signed for Barcelona in the summer of 2004 for a transfer fee of €24 million, after lengthy three-way negotiations with Mallorca and Madrid.[6] Initially Madrid president Florentino Pérez wanted to buy back the full transfer rights and loan him out again but eventually the Barcelona deal proved lucrative enough to warrant a sale.[7] Additionally, the team already had its full quota of three non-EU players.[6] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamwelsh (talk • contribs) 18:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, is this a request for a new page? If so, this isn't the proper venue for it. Please read Wikipedia:Your first article, that should help you get started out with your first articles. Cheers, tempodivalse [☎] 20:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

This is largely extracted from Samuel Eto'o, with the subject's name replaced (in part). The purpose of this post is rather unclear. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

posting on main page

I feel a bit stupid. I have the article in my USER PAGE and I would like to post it on the maon page. I have search a;; over Wikipedia and cannot find anything that tells how. Can somebody clear this up for me?

Ossito (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Details are at Help:Moving a page. Also see WP:T for some formatting tips. Best, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 19:10, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Are you trying to put it in an article called Yacht Delivery? If so, it seems it doesn't exist yet. The easiest thing would be to create the article and then copy and paste it from your user page (copy and paste the code so that it retains the formatting). You might want to make sure you have some good reliable sources demonstrating it's a notable subject with good information available, otherwise it's quite likely to fall victim to deletionists. TastyCakes (talk) 19:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe it's against the GFDL to move with a copy-paste when more than one editor worked on the original, as is the case here (even though the IP was probably the user logged out). All edits need to be attributable to users/IPs and that kind of move separates the history from the actual article. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 21:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Moved it for you, to the more-appropriate Yacht delivery (avoiding inappropriate capitalization). --Orange Mike | Talk 19:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

To understand our capitalization rules for titles, see WP:TITLE#Lowercase. Wikipedia's title case rule is different than what most of the world uses. It took me a while to get used to that when I was new here. --Teratornis (talk) 02:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Infobox settlement issue

Something funny is happening with the infobox at La Gloria, Veracruz. Can someone fix it for me? Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

|latm= is blank. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

That's very strange. I've never had to use latm before. See e.g. La Pintada, Panama where it's blank and looks just fine. Any idea why it happened in the La Gloria article but not the La Pintada article? Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It appears that if lats or latNS are present, latm must be defined also. It is possible that it would have been too complicated for the template designer to support every combination, so it appears that the more common combinations – signed-degrees, degrees + minutes N/S, and degrees + minutes + seconds N/S – are the main ones supported. Others Similarly for longitude. -- Tcncv (talk) 02:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

"Saint Mary's High School (Colorado Springs), Colorado"

Hello - I recently found our high school on your site which I was excited to see. However, our name is spelled out "Saint" rather than "St." as it should be. I went through what I could to edit our name, but was unable to update our overall listed name. Is this something you might be able to correct for us? I have added my changes to the history where requested.

I am the Director of Admissions and Marketing and wanted to make sure our listing is consistent with our legal name.

Thank you for your assistance and for including us in your site.

<personal information redacted>

www.smhscs.org

20:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)20:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.99.121.194 (talk)

I've moved the page for you. x42bn6 Talk Mess 20:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

User page

how do i put a photo on my user page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Percytheparkkeeper (talk • contribs) 20:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Simply list the file name on the page by typing [[File:Name of the image.jpg]]. Be sure to correctly list the file extension and use capitalization used by the file. TNXMan 20:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

But first, you have have to upload the file locally, or if it freely licenced, to Commons. Simply typing a web address won't work. Xenon54 (talk) 20:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually you can put it on your user page only if it is freely licensed. —teb728 t c 21:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Birthdays

How do I send a birthday date to you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.146.211.32 (talk) 21:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

What is the aim? If you wish to add someone's birth date to an article, feel free, as long as you can cite it. dottydotdot (talk) 21:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Not so fast! The person must be notable (i.e. have an article), and birthdates only really belong in the lead of their article or in the Birth sections on the day page (for example, 28 April). Xenon54 (talk) 22:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Inserting pictures

How can/should I instert a photo, diagram, or chart while editing a Wikipedia article? CalebJacoby (talk) 23:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, type [[Image:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the article – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer, for use in an article, you must find out what is the proper license of the image. If you know the image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Since you already have an account on the English Wikipedia, you can unify your account to work on Commons via Special:MergeAccount. Also note that copyright law and licensing can be very complicated, depending on what you want to do. We could give you much more specific advice if you tell us what images you want to upload, or use, and what Wikipedia article(s) you want to put them in. You can read all the manuals, and you should eventually do that, but initially they will look very complicated because they have to deal with so many possible cases. If you tell us your particular case, we can give you relatively simple instructions. --Teratornis (talk) 23:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Technical Noticeboard

Where is the technical "noticeboard"?

There seems to be problems with the watchlist function: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Watchlist WhatisFeelings? (talk) 23:41, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), but you might want to read Help:Watchlist first; it might answer your question. Xenon54 (talk) 00:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I have added a reply in the above section #Watchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:VPT is easier to type! – ukexpat (talk) 03:34, 29 April 2009 (UTC)