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September 20[edit]

Sander Vanocur - Family[edit]

Sander Vanocur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

In the Family section of information about noted TV journalist Sander Vanocur, the article says that he has one son, Chris Vanocur, a Salt Lake City political reporter. My problem is that I am Nick Vanocur, a former two-time "Best of Gannett" headline winner during years as an editor at The Tennessean, Nashville's alledged morning newspaper. I find the mention to Sander Vanocur odd as I am his eldest son in addition to being Chris' brother and friend to John Seigenthaler. Currently I am helping set up a non-profit corporation to change the overwhelmingly lopsided balance of the sexes in the field of dental Hygiene and near the completion of my first novel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

You can edit the article and fix it yourself. However, please include a reference confirming that he does indeed have two sons. We can not ascertain your identity online, and Wikipedia have very strict rules on biographical articles (Take the time to read: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons). You can find tutorials on how to add references here: Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. Also please take care to keep to wording neutral, do not insert promotional content. Remember that the article is about Sander Vanocur, not his family.
You can also simply post in Talk:Sander Vanocur (or even right here if you want) with the exact wording of the changes you want and include a link to a reliable source confirming the information and someone else will do it for you. Cheers.-- Obsidin Soul 00:34, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I have added a cited reference with your name and some additional information in this edit.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:11, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Image problem[edit]

I tried to create a table for personal data as others scientists did. I have uploaded my own picture M.A.P.Rao.jpg from my computer into My talk (ID:Raomap). This answer is provided to the question raised Who has uploaded, and asked its source. I regret for the inconvenience caused. If allowed, please suggest how to create a box having photo and personal details. M.A.Padmanabha Rao, PhD(AIIMS) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raomap (talkcontribs) 01:50, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I recommend the page User:ww2censor/IfD, which explains everything more clearly than I can here. You need to go to the file page, File:M.A.P.Rao.jpg, click "Edit" at the top and then give answers to the questions. Don't worry about the formatting; that can be fixed up later.
If the material on your user page is intended as a draft for a Wikipedia article, then the correct way to create a nicely-formatted box at the top left would be to use Template:Infobox scientist. If you follow that link you'll find the instructions for using it. There's an example at Alexander Fleming. But in this case you should stop and read Wikipedia:Autobiography before you go any further.
If you are merely creating your user page, then Template:Infobox wikipedian is probably best. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:02, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Smart Phone editing[edit]

(Reposted from above, got lost I guess) Is there a way to get it when i click edit on my phone that it opens in a new window? I've tried 4-5 Android browsers and I don't know if it is my phone or just how it is set up, but I can't scroll down in the edit window on my phone, only down the whole page, so it makes editing impossible. And when I can scroll down, when I try to click on a word to edit, the cursor jumps all over. CTJF83 19:38, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Since no-one here was able to answer your question two days ago, I suggest you try the Computing reference desk or Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 08:06, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, CTJF83 23:06, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

User Name[edit]

How can I update how my user name or how it displays? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smwieland (talkcontribs) 03:31, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

You can change your username at Wikipedia:Changing username. You can also modify your signature when you sign messages by instructions at Wikipedia:Signatures. You should sign your messages using four tildes like this: ~~~~. --Jayron32 03:38, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

iPhone 3GS and mobile wiki problem[edit]

Is there any functional radio button on a Wikipedia mobile site that actually works on an iPhone 3GS? I'm jealous of another questioner who is getting "half the time" buttons working. We used to dream of getting the site to work half the time! Would of been Paradise! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:34, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

potentially slanderous comment[edit]

Dear Wikipedia, I don't have much experience with editing and so I'm writing to you. There is a potentially slanderous comment about me on one of your pages. I have gone out of my way to resolve this through an email to the user be he has not responded. I like to think that there was no malice involved. Can you advise me on next steps. The page is here. Simon Young — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:39, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't have the experience to advise you, but I have notified Ian Spackman (talk · contribs) about your post here. He hasn't edited since the 15th so may be on holiday. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:29, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
What action do you want? I had a very quick look at the article talk and it looks like an editor has attempted an analysis of whether a particular external link (to a blog) would be useful for the article. The editor (I think, from my very quick look) suggested that the blog was unsuitable as it appeared to include information copied from another blog (that's in addition to WP:ELNO which mentions that links to blogs are generally not used). The normal response to such a comment would be to briefly explain that the suggestion is wrong because in fact (I think, from my very quick read) that the same person wrote the original material, so no plagiarism was involved. It is hard to see what better outcome might be wanted. Please review WP:NLT because any editor who hints that legal action may be contemplated is blocked since none of us are qualified to deal with such a situation. Johnuniq (talk) 08:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I hope this edit resolves the issue. Ian Spackman (talk) 16:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

How to add our company profile page on Wikipedia ?[edit]

I would like to know,can we add our company profile page on Wikipedia, if yes how can I add my company details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sraatim (talkcontribs) 12:02, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:05, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Note that there are no "profiles" on Wikipedia, nor is Wikipedia a business directory or an advertising medium. Wikipedia has encyclopedia articles about notable subjects. If your company does meet the notability guidelines set out at WP:CORP someone will write an article about it eventually. You may find WikiCompany more suitable for your needs. – ukexpat (talk) 14:17, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


when i open facebook in my computer my email address and password are seen in the log-in box. so anyone can enter into my account. how to remove it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 5.5 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. We have nothing to do with Facebook. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:03, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
It's a function in your browser to store the data for another visit to the same site. If you post to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing and tell them which browser you use then they can probably help you. Also tell them whether you want such data to be forgotten for all sites or only for Facebook. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:44, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Permanently Delete Page[edit]


Someone has posted my personal information on Wikipedia and it was unauthorized. The posting went to deleteopedia and is still available to view and is being picked up by other websites and reposted. I would like the page completely deleted, if possible.

Please provide instructions for permanently deleting pages with personal information. (talk) 15:31, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

The fact is that we have no control over what is done by other websites. You will have to contact those websites directly to request the removal of material from their pages. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Template help needed[edit]

Can someone help User:Jimrowanisjimrowan who tried to create a course page on the page but the course description does not seem to transclude although it has been created. Shyamal (talk) 15:34, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:United States Education Program/Courses/2011 Q3 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I believe User:Jimrowanisjimrowan has solved this one? The page looks ok to me now. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, it does appear to be ok now. Shyamal (talk) 02:13, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Creating new artical - where is link?[edit]

I have not been able to licate the link to begin a new artical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stutyr (talkcontribs) 15:37, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

There is no such link. You can create an article by entering the title of the new article into the search box. For example, when you enter "Test page" into the search box, the following text will be shown:
You may create the page "Test page", but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered.
When you click on the red wikilink, you are editing the page Test page and you can add content to it.
Please remember our guidelines on notability and verifiability when creating a new article. It might be helpful to first develop a new article in your userspace by creating a userspace draft (see Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft). You might also want to use the Wikipedia:Article wizard which guides you through the steps required when creating a new article. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:50, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Based upon your post's content, it is unlikely that your English writing ability is at the level needed to construct an article yourself.-- (talk) 15:56, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Cant find it ![edit]

Hi.........I purchased 1985 Holiday Rambler Class "A" motorhome. It has a 7000 watt koular generator.It has its own battery for starting. I have looked everywhere. Cannot find battery. Feel like an idiot. Know it has one. Disconnected other 2 battery sources and generator still turns over. Where might I look to find the mystery battery????................Jerry Kozak 18:34, 20 September 2011 (UTC)18:34, 20 September 2011 (UTC)~

<redact> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanuk0007 (talkcontribs) 18:34, 20 September 2011 (UTC) 18:37, 20 September 2011 (UTC)18:37, 20 September 2011 (UTC)Kanuk0007 (talk)

Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. TNXMan 18:49, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Add material[edit]

i would like to add that Therese Titjens sang in Darwen (Co-operative Hall Darwen Lancashire England) on Thursday January 9th 1871. Source Blackburn Standard January 18th 1871, an advert for Darwen Subscription Concert Third in Series of Four. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:38, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Go for it! --Jayron32 19:29, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

How to wikilink to a section if two sections with identical title exist[edit]

Suppose I want to wikilink to a section here at the help desk, but there are two different sections with the same title. How can I specify the correct section to link to (in my case the second section)? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:27, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

You would have to either change one of the section headings or use {{anchor}}. – ukexpat (talk) 19:38, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
An anchor does the trick. Thanks. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:56, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
You can also add " 2" (a space/underscore and a number), but this will break the link if an earlier section heading is removed, for example because it's archived first. Here is a more extreme example: User talk:PrimeHunter/Archive 1#Thanks 13 (gee, I got thanked a lot). If you click on the table of contents then it goes to the right section and shows the right number in the url (if somebody also made a section heading ending with a space and number then things can still get messed up). PrimeHunter (talk) 20:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Very informative answer. That gets you another thanks from me. :) Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:36, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Vicki Roberts erroneously is redirected to Amy Alkon[edit]

Vicki Roberts - typing in this individual's name erroneously redirects one to the page of Amy Alkon. This needs to be undone. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:03, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Right now, the only notable thing about Vicki Roberts is that she is the lawyer in a lawsuit against Amy Alkon. If you want to, you can work on a proper article about Vicki Roberts. She has been on a few minor television shows. -- kainaw 20:10, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Have I messed up an AfD?[edit]

I have just gone through the process of starting an AfD [1], but somehow it doesn't seem to show up properly on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2011 September 20. I've probably done something daft, and rather than make things worse by trying to 'fix' it, can I ask someone less incompetent to see if it can be corrected? Thanks in advance... AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:30, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it for you. You didn't have the header on the actual nomination page, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Pakish Identity. GB fan 20:37, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I think I see now what I did: clicked on "this article's entry" when I should have clicked on "Preloaded debate" when creating the AfD discussion page. Apologies for this - one day I'll get it right... AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:40, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
That would do it. If you click "this article's entry" then you have to add {{subst:afd2 | pg=PageName | cat=Category | text=Why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~ as described in II at WP:AFDHOWTO. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Yup. I can see that now - evidently my brain was only half-engaged, or I'm finally going ga-ga... AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Deleting old draft copies from Userspace[edit]

I have the tag for requesting that an admin delete an old draft page from my userspace (I have a pile of drafts in there to delete). But does that also delete all the versions of that page from the userspace? I was doing a lot of save-save-save etc. Thanks,

OttawaAC (talk) 23:49, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean by "all versions"? If by "version" you refer to all revisions in the page history, then yes, if an admin acts on the {{db-user}} tag placed on a subpage, all revisions of that page will be deleted. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 00:04, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Yes, unless you ask an admin to leave specific revisions, they will delete the entire page and its history. If someone else offered additional content while your draft was in userspace, you should either move the page to its new location or mention them in an edit summary so their contribution is properly attributed. - (talk) 07:39, 21 September 2011 (UTC)