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November 5[edit]

Help with references[edit]


I am having some trouble formatting my references for my entry. Could you possibly help me so they are correctly formatted?

Thank you

Kelli C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmarieclark (talkcontribs) 00:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I see that your first contribution is a new article, Sheldon Fields. I've inserted a "holder" for your footnotes, ready for when you get around to writing them (inserting numbers is neither necessary nor sufficient). —Tamfang (talk) 00:20, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Barry County[edit]

Barry County, MO really should have the main page of the GenWeb History and Genealogy site linked to it and not a minor page. I am the coordinator for the county and have a very large amount of data posted that is useful to those interested in both history and genealogy.

The one page you have posted is for the local historical society and is on my web site but it is a very minor page. The main page has a link to that one page you have listed.

Please link the main page given at the link below, because it is where people enter and where they search find the search box.

Thank You, Donna Cooper, Administrator and Coordinator, Barry County, MOGenWeb — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:55, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Why not bring this up at Talk:Barry County, Missouri, or make the change yourself? —Tamfang (talk) 02:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
I would not have said that this link meets the criteria in WP:EL anyway. --ColinFine (talk) 18:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Adding a new column to a table[edit]

I am planning on adding a new column to the table at Georges Méliès filmography and was wondering if there are any shortcuts. The table is incredibly long and it would take quite some time to add the extra | for each row manually. Is there a quick way to add an extra | to the code for each row? I don't really expect that there is, but I would hate to take the time to do this all manually, if there is a faster way. --Jpcase (talk) 02:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

The way that I'd try to do it would be to copy the source of that page into a text editor and then use the text editor's find/replace function to replace all the "|-" characters with another pipe, an enter/return, and the original "|-". Dismas|(talk) 02:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea. Thanks. What exactly is a text editor though? Is that like Microsoft Word? Also, what is "return"? --Jpcase (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Microsoft Word will work, as will any other editor. I personally use Notepad for things like this, because it does not mess with formatting. "Return" is the same as "Enter". Some computers say one thing, other computers say the other.    → Michael J    04:06, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Microsoft Word's replace function seems unable to support enter. Do you know of a way to make this work? --Jpcase (talk) 04:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
In MS Word version 4 (1989), "^p" represented end-of-paragraph in a search/replace field. Dunno if it still works. —Tamfang (talk) 04:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Incidentally, I also don't know what (if anything) works in LibreOffice. —Tamfang (talk) 10:11, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
[ec] Type ^p in the find/replace box where you want a return character.    → Michael J    04:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
For why it's called a return, see carriage return. Those people, such as myself, who are old enough to remember typewriters often use "return" instead of "enter" which is what is printed on the key on a keyboard to make the cursor move to the next line. Dismas|(talk) 10:07, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
^p did the trick! Thanks a ton to all three of you! --Jpcase (talk) 14:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

2012 Editor Survey[edit]

I logged in and got a link to the 2012 editor survey, which I would like to take. Unfortunately, I accidentally clicked away from it, as I was in the process of editing an article. The Wikimedia page regarding the surveys says there is a link available if the survey is missed, any chance I could get the link? Skrelk (talk) 03:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

See meta:Research:Wikipedia Editor Survey 2012#Why will a user see the link to the survey only once? How? I guess you can use the address at meta:Research:Wikipedia Editor Survey August 2012/Questions#INTRODUCTION SCREEN. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)


I have been doing editing from some time but never tried my hand on files and images(insert very few free images only).Then, Which is the best place(with whom) for image and file related questions.?---zeeyanketu talk to me 05:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I guess the best place would be Commons:Help desk --Anbu121 (talk me) 05:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
And there is a noticeboard here too: Wikipedia:Media copyright questions --Anbu121 (talk me) 06:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Commons accept only free images without any copyright status issues but my query is about using files from websites in articles.---zeeyanketu talk to me 09:20, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Check if this helps you:Wikipedia:Non-free content --Anbu121 (talk me) 09:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Casino NSW notable people[edit]

Article deleted by auther casinolad.

Erica Lennard birthdate incorrect[edit]

The date on my information for my birthday is incorrect. I was born in 1950. can you please correct this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:34, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

We don't currently have an article called Erica Lennard although your name is mentioned in a couple of places, so it would help if you could let us know where this wrong birth date is. Thanks, Rojomoke (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
This is a help desk for the English Wikipedia and our search function is only for English. With a Google search I found an article at the French Wikipedia with a wrong year. I have fixed it.[1] Thanks for notifying us. For another time, click "Français" in the left pane to get to a help page for the French Wikipedia. Many of their editors speak English. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Deleting a page[edit]

Hello...I am trying to delete a page that I created named Terry McKenzie, how can I go about doing that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jupaterr (talkcontribs) 17:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Header added. --ColinFine (talk) 18:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
In general an article will be deleted only if a case is made for deleting it under the deletion procedure.The article is certainly very odd: You created it two years ago about Terry McKenzie, but on 31 Oct the IP user User: edited it to be about Marcell Padilla. Unless this is a hoax, perhaps rather than deleting it, it should be moved to Marcell Padilla. --ColinFine (talk) 18:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
I think someone was trying to create a new article but edited the McKenzie article instead. I have undone all the "Padilla edits".--ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Bug report[edit]

So, I deleted wrong information from an article called "Lusitanians" and it keeps coming back! It's not even much, it's just one sentence, and one of the times I even provided sources saying that bit was wrong and they still deleted it!

The part that's wrong is the following (on the section "Contemporary meaning": "Lusitanic is at present a term used to categorize persons who share the linguistic and cultural traditions of the Portuguese-speaking nations and territories of Portugal, Brazil, Macau, Timor-Leste, Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde, São Tomé and Príncipe, Guinea Bissau and others."

This information is wrong. Proof: lusitano adj (lat lusitanu) 1 Que diz respeito à Lusitânia ou aos seus habitantes. 2 Que se refere a Portugal ou aos portugueses; lusitânico. sm 1 Habitante ou natural da Lusitânia. 2 Português. Var: luso. (Translation: Lusitanian: 1. That's relative to Lusitania or its inhabitants. 2. That refers to Portugal or the Portuguese people, Lusitanic. Sm 1. Inhabitant or natural of Lusitania. 2. Portuguese. Variant: Luso)

This word does not include people from Portugal's ex-colonies because the word for that is Lusophone (lusófono, in Portuguese).

The definition of that word is the following: lusófono lu.só adj+sm (luso2+fono) 1 Diz-se do, ou o indivíduo que fala português. 2 Diz-se do, ou o indivíduo ou povo que, não tendo o português como seu vernáculo, fala-o por cultura ou por adoção como língua franca, tal como acontece em regiões africanas e asiáticas que sofreram influência dos antigos colonos portugueses. Var: lusófone. ( Translation lusophone: 1 It's say of, or the individual that speaks Portuguese. 2. It's said of the individual that speaks Portuguese as official language, even if it's not the native one, like in some African and Asian regions. Variation: lusófone (in English, it would be the same thing: Lusophone))

Source: (Michaelis - Brazilian dictionary)

Please, fix this bug. ThePortuguese (talk) 18:55, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

It's not a bug. Your edits are being reverted because other editors don't agree with you. Please discuss on the article's talk page at Talk:Lusitanians.--ukexpat (talk) 19:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
You should understand also that the meaning of words in English is not limited by the meaning of cognate words in other languages like Portuguese. So for a reference you would need an English dictionary. —teb728 t c 20:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

How to share my view about something?[edit]

How to share my view about something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jipsydoll (talkcontribs) 19:13, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

If you have an opinion about improving a Wikipedia article, you can visit that article's talk page. If you just want to give your views about some other subject, there are plenty of online forums on the internet. Try searching for some suitable keywords including the subject you wish to talk about and maybe the word "forum" or "chat". Astronaut (talk) 19:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Without more than that, I would suggest Facebook, MySpace or a blog. Wikipedia is about sharing knowledge which has been reported in reliable third-party sources, not about sharing one's own views. If you want to share your views about the best way to edit something within Wikipedia, use the talk page of the article you wish to improve via the "Talk" link on the article page. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:39, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
That's weird, how did my comment get on top of yours with no edit conflict? Astronaut (talk) 19:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

How to change an article written and rejected.[edit]

Article written title: What is Liminal Art? This was rejected due to copyright infringement questions. I have revised the article to avoid this, but can't seem to get to the page to make my change. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bronton Cheja (talkcontribs) 19:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

The deleted page was at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/What is Liminal Art?. Note though that "articles" titled "What is..." are unlikely to meet Wikipedia's inclusions policies. Please take a look at WP:Your first article and the other links that I have just posted on you talk page.--ukexpat (talk) 19:29, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
You could start by first adding something about art to the Liminality article which does not have any content at all about art. Roger (talk) 19:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Also note that the deleted article had copyright problems (it actually had a copyright notice embedded in it.) Any replacement article will have to be written to be clear of other people's copyrights. RJFJR (talk) 20:43, 5 November 2012 (UTC)


Hi. How long does google take to refresh its cache? This wiki page was deleted last Friday but it still shows up in google search. Thanks in advance!

Jonfoerster (talk) 22:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

My guess would have been a week or two – though it's really a question for Google, not for Wikipedia. But it seems to have cleared it already, when I Google for "Jonfoerster" I don't find a Wikipedia article. Maproom (talk) 22:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)