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February 24[edit]

Comma in "Category:Articles with unsourced statements from January 2,013"[edit]

What's with the comma in "Category:Articles with unsourced statements from January 2,013" which appears for articles like Waitangi, Northland? Nurg (talk) 02:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

The population_total parameter of {{Infobox settlement}} is formatted by a feature which inserts commas so a year cannot be present, not even in a citation needed tag. Many templates have some parameters which must be pure numbers. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
In the case of the Waitangi article, I've moved the citation-needed template to the infobox's "population_footnotes" field, and the article is now in the correct category. Deor (talk) 11:58, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you both. Nurg (talk) 08:03, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Moving a page[edit]

There is an article Basic Anxiety. I tried to move it to Basic anxiety but failed. I requested a move at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions, but a bot immediately removed my request. Now I see that a new editor starts writing this article, which would mean a great deal of overlap with Anxiety. So, what mistake did I make, and can someone please move Basic Anxiety to Basic anxiety before we have double articles and a lot of good efforts done in vain? Thank you! Lova Falk talk 11:28, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello. I have also tried moving the page and it appears the page could not be moved because a redirect page by that name already exists. I think that the redirect page should be deleted first (obviously needs sysop help) and then the move could be completed. Please ask an admin for extra assistance. --Ushau97 talk contribs 12:27, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
It seems you tried to list the move request at move discussions which is for potentially controversial moves that need to be discussed first. That section is not updated manually; you have to request that kind of move in the article talk page and a bot will add it to the list. This is why the bot overwrote your request. A technical move like yours should go under WP:RM/TR. Please list it in that section manually, according to the instruction provided there. Chamal TC 12:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! I now listed it in the proper place. Lova Falk talk 13:57, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Claire Cooper[edit]


I have tried editing this page: Claire Cooper many times. The birth date is wrong and whenever I change it and save it the next day I come back and it's been changed back to the date it was already on. Claire Cooper's birthday is 26th October 1981, she is 31 years old. The actress has confirmed this herself via twitter @CLAIREECOOPER which is her verified account. Please help change this as a lot of website's that write articles about Claire use this website so the information in the articles always ends us being wrong. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:00, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Looks like you're correct since she has mentioned that it's her birthday on 26 October, and has denied that it's her birthday today on Twitter (which is in this case an acceptable source since there doesn't seem to be anything better that is not copied off the wikipedia article itself). I have changed the date; can't find anything on the year though so I left it as it is. If you can find a better, reliable source that provides this information, please add it to the article. Chamal TC 13:26, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Is Twitter now considered a reliable source? Is there really some way to confirm a Twitter account as belonging to someone? If so, is it secure enough to consider "tweets" from such an account to be attributable to that person? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Actually it can be. The blue check mark beside the name is their OTRS system.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:29, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
It's not always a "reliable source", but I gave a link in my previous comment as to why Twitter is an acceptable source in this case. And as Canoe1967 said, Twitter have a program called verified accounts where they confirm that the account is who it claims to be. Chamal TC 02:36, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Awareness Ribbons[edit]

The Wikipedia list of Ribbon Awareness colors does not include the Gay Pride Rainbow Ribbons. Please correct this soon as it is a significant oversite.

Thank You

Christina Palmer — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:16, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Christina. Your comment reads as one of somebody who thinks Wikipedia has some central authority that oversees and approves edits (and can have oversights laid in its lap). We are all volunteers, and became editors by clicking the edit button and adding content we wanted to add and thought would belong or was missing (within the limits of policy and guideline as we learned them). You are an editor too. Two aphorisms we use here, corollaries of each other, are to be bold in editing and when someone see a mistake or a gap and reports it, we tell them, uh huh, SoFixIt! See Be bold. The edit you're proposing sounds like a good one. If what I've been leading up to isn't clear: Why don't you go make the edit since you think this content should be added? Note that this material should be accompanied by citation to a reliable source. Please see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. If you need any help with adding the material, please do not hesitate to ask here (or you could contact me directly on my talk page and I will do my best to help).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:35, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
LGBT symbols does not list any ribbons. Do you have a reliable source? --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 17:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
A source is not difficult, e.g. this.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:05, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
That is an award, not an awareness ribbon.[1] --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 03:08, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

USS Silica[edit]

Under the artical "USS Silica", a concrete ship built by Barrett & Hilp at the Bel Air Ship Yards in 1943, it states that the ship was sponcered by a Mrs. O'Neil. I happened to be there at the time of the christening and it was christened by my mother Mrs. Stanley A. Brown. My father at the time was a General Superintendent for the Barrett & Hilp Construction Co. I have several pictures showing the christening.

William S. Brown63.83.75.144 (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your contribution. If you have any published reference for that (eg a clipping from a newspaper - it doesn't have to be available on line) you are welcome to add the information to the article, with a citation to the reference (see WP:Referencing for beginners); but if it is only your personal recollection then I'm afraid Wikipedia cannot use it, as we require information to be verifiable.
On the subject of the pictures, do you know who holds the copyright in them? If you hold it (eg if they were taken by your father and left to you as part of his estate) and you are willing to donate them to Wikipedia, that would be very welcome. You would need to scan them and upload them to Wikimedia commons, filling in the details to say that you were the copyright holder and you agreed to release them under a suitable licence; then the article could be linked from the article USS Silica. --ColinFine (talk) 20:27, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
The article reference is [2] at the official US Navy website. It says "sponsored by Mrs. William O'Neill". Wikipedia requires reliable published sources like that. If the Navy changed their statement then Wikipedia could change to the new Navy statement. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:21, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm no US naval expert (being a Brit landlubber), but is the word "sponsored" here really meant to be a synonym for "christened"? It's not a usage I've encountered before, and would have read it to mean that the said Mrs. O'Neil paid for (at least a significant part of) the cost of the vessel, not that she smashed a bottle over the bow at launching. Such 'sponsorship' might seem unlikely in peacetime, but this all took place during WW2, when I know that, for example, various individual RAF aircraft were nominally funded by collections from areas or organisations, or by rich individuals, and Royal Naval ships were partly supported by the cities etc after which they were named. {The poster formally known as} (talk) 16:47, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I didn't know this meaning of sponsor either so I looked it up before my first reply. Ship naming and launching#United States shows that sponsor does refer to christening. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:13, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Leonard Garcia[edit]

Someone has messed up leonards pages. It saids hes 4-21. heres a website from UFC — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:46, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

The page should be fixed now. FallingGravity (talk) 21:21, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Editing a Semi-Protected Page[edit]

I added an external link today to this page [3] on the Mona Lisa, but it didn't show up. The page is semi-protected, but I should be able to edit as an auto-confirmed user. Any help with this would be appreciated. NinaGreen (talk) 21:11, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

It was below the da Vinci template. I moved it above but the link seems broken.--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I see what happened. I didn't realize the item immediately above was a template. The link seems fine now. NinaGreen (talk) 21:19, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
You are welcome. I fixed the link as well. They will probably start merge and re-name discussions soon to a new article called "Mona Lisas".--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:43, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Stray characters[edit]


What are the stray characters at the bottom of Augie Wolf coming from.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

They disappeared when I purged. They came from a faulty version of Template:Navbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:04, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:49, 24 February 2013 (UTC)