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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS. Archives of past nominations can be found here.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

A blurb is a one sentence summary of the news story. An alternate suggestion for the blurb is called an altblurb, and any more suggestions get labelled alt1, alt2, etc. A blurb needs at least one target article, highlighted in bold; reviewers check the quality of that article and whether it is updated, and whether reliable sources demonstrate the significance of the event. Other articles can also be linked. The Ongoing line is for regularly updated articles which cover events that remain in the news over a longer period of time. RD stands for the "recent deaths" line, and can include any living thing whose death was recently announced. In some cases, recent deaths may need additional explanation as provided by a blurb; this is decided by consensus.

Shenzhou 12 crew at a press conference on 16 June
Shenzhou 12 crew

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated).
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do not...[edit]

  1. add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  2. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
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    • The African Union (AU) launches an official commission to investigate allegations of human rights abuses committed in Ethiopia's Tigray Region. The Ethiopian Foreign Ministry rejects the commission as "misguided" and without legal basis, saying that a joint probe by the AU and Ethiopia should be used instead. (Al Jazeera)

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RD/Blurb: Kenneth Kaunda[edit]

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Article: Kenneth Kaunda (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: First President of Zambia Kenneth Kaunda (pictured) dies at the age of 97. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 1st and long-time president of Zambia. His article needs a lot of work, so I will be working on it. Maybe he should be nominated for blurb? _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose Quality isn't great, with a few Citation Neededs, but I would support a blurb on notability as he was the first president of Zambia, although his term did end 30 years ago. Jackattack1597 (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support blurb on principle, oppose on quality Kaunda was a key figure in Zambian independence, the founding president of Zambia, president of Zambia for 27 years, and was the third secretary-general of the non-aligned movement. He checks all of the boxes for a blurbable politician. However, the article quality is not there yet. NorthernFalcon (talk) 21:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support RD only, oppose blurb This people from Zambia doesn't look enough to be posted as blurb given his little significance. 114.125.31.240 (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
    Really "little significance", just because you haven't heard of someone does not make them non-notable. Probably one of the most influential and earliest African leaders, it is surprising to know that he was still alive. Gotitbro (talk) 23:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comments The cn tags need to be fixed, would clearly support on significance when done. Gotitbro (talk) 23:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support blurb pending improved referencing. Kenneth Kaunda was essentially the father of the modern nation of Zambia, and a very significant figure in African politics for many decades. He merits a full blurb rather than just a passing mention in RD. Kurtis (talk) 02:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality The article needs improvement in referencing. Once fixed, I would support a blurb. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:11, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The article isn't in good shape. Hanamanteo (talk) 07:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support blurb in principle, oppose on quality significant sourcing improvements needed. If done, this looks blurb-worthy to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support blurb once article improved. A major figure in southern African politics during the transitional era from colonialism to independence, and beyond, and established Zambia as a nation.--Bcp67 (talk) 11:31, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support blurb if article is improved - Agree with other commenters. The article doesn't look to be in terrible shape but has numerous unsourced statements. The death of a person who was the first head of state of a country, particular one who has reached their late 90s, would seem like a notable enough event to warrant a blurb to me. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 12:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) U.S. federal recognition of Juneteenth[edit]

Closing before this develops into another fatuous discussion. Consensus is clearly against posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Juneteenth (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​President Biden signs into law recognition of Juneteenth, June 19, as a federal holiday. (Post)
News source(s): Deadline
Credits:
Nominator's comments: The bill has passed Congress, and Biden plans to sign it on 6/17 at 3:30pm ET, so this is preparatory ahead of that signing ceremony. As for why this is important, it is not just the US get an 11th federal holiday, but Juneteenth has been promoted as recognition of the end of slavery in the U.S. and general recognition of of the trials + tribulations of blacks and other minorities in the U.S. It has become more predominate in the wake of last years George Floyd protests. Masem (t) 04:29, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Would be nice if they also added Easter Monday or General Lee surrenders day or independence war starts day or ~Apr 15 tax in the Feb 15-21 to May 25-31 gap. And Random 2-Month Summer Gap Filler Day Observed. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 05:49, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - Long-awaited creation of a federal Emancipation Day in the US. I find it pure symbolism, but humanity loves their symbols. I prefer cymbals - Floydian τ ¢ 05:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose A lot of exposition, for which there isn't room on the Main Page, is going to be needed to show how this is ITN-worthy. At the end of the day, this is still just the US adding another public holiday (which doesn't even work the same as in many other countries, but I digress). It's not like this is the US government acknowledging slavery happened – obviously they have already. So, I'm not seeing this being particularly transformative at even a national level, and I can't imagine us posting a similar story for any other country. -- tariqabjotu 07:22, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose internal politics. I might change my mind if there are a lot of follow-up stories, but as of right now, this is completely overshadowed by the Geneva summit. Banedon (talk) 07:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support The most recently established federal holiday was Martin Luther King Jr. Day in 1983, so it's not that often that a new federal holiday is added. The Juneteenth bill can be seen as part of the aftermath of the George Floyd protests. Davey2116 (talk) 08:21, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Maybe not in the US, but once you broaden to every country in the world it really isn't that rare, e.g. in 2020 Iraq made Christmas a public holiday [1]. Banedon (talk) 09:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Banedon. We don't usually post internal politics of this nature.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:25, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose trivial and of practically zero encyclopedic value. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose whilst it's good that they've done it, this isn't ITN-worthy, as it's only a US Government policy. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Pure symbolic and nothing of importance to the rest of the world. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 09:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Disagree that it has "zero encyclopedic value"(if so, it should be nominated for deletion) but the US can decide to have whatever holidays it wishes, just as any country can. 331dot (talk) 09:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
    I said "practically". Thanks for the advice though, really appreciate it. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:38, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose It recognized the Armenian genocide this past Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day, too, symbolic moments happen. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:31, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Congress had already recognized the genocide; the president doing so had not happened before. 331dot (talk) 10:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Aye, and this time, they've all acknowledged slavery ended (though the trials and tribulations endure) many times each before. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:53, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose A country getting it's 11th official holiday is not in itself notable for this ostensibly international encyclopedia. As for the attrocity propaganda about slavery in the US, what happened there was no doubt tragic, but that happened in a single country to a fairly small number of people compared to the population of the world. Morepower, their "trials and tributations" have been nothing compared to what most people across most countries of the world had suffered in the past few centuries so that's not notable either, in my opinion. Cheers. 212.74.201.238 (talk) 11:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose This holiday is unknown outside other English-speaking countries. 114.125.29.40 (talk) 12:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) Shenzhou 12[edit]

Article: Shenzhou 12 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​China has launched three astronauts into orbit to begin occupation of the country's new space station. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Shenzhou 12 launches with three Taikonauts and carries the first crew to dock at the Tiangong space station.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Guardian, dpa
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: China's longest crewed space mission to date and the first in nearly five years. Sherenk1 (talk) 03:46, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support altblurb Article has been improved from stub. Also successful 1st docking with space station. Albertaont (talk) 05:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Note - changed to ITNR. -- KTC (talk) 08:04, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality article is just under 1,500 characters, way too short for ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • The altblurb should be posted, but the article currently has just two sentences about what actually happened. Needs a bit of expansion before being featured on the MP. There are plenty of sources that could be used to do so. Modest Genius talk 12:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Just a bit? Article is barely over 200 words – more or less a stub. – Sca (talk) 12:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
That's my stereotypical British understatement. Modest Genius talk 13:09, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
You're so modest. – Sca (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
But not a genius. Modest Genius talk 10:34, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support ― The article has been updated and is OK now. STSC (talk) 18:51, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 01:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Post-posting-oppose it's still only 1700 characters- about 2 sentences have been added since all the opposes. This is not good enough article quality for ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Pull I didn't even bother opposing earlier because it would have been a pile-on with an article so far away from being ready. We get one support and it's posted? GreatCaesarsGhost 15:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

June 16[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

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(Posted) RD: Janet Malcolm[edit]

Article: Janet Malcolm (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Long-time The New Yorker writer. Needs a few citations but shouldn’t take long. Innisfree987 (talk) 16:54, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Referenced and moderately expanded. Innisfree987 (talk) 00:59, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
    Innisfree987, Works section needs refs. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 02:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
    SirEdimon, may I ask for clarification—what sort of reference? The bulk of my WP work is about writers and typically the books themselves are the reference. Is it that you want them laid out in {{cite book...}} format? Innisfree987 (talk) 02:55, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
    Innisfree987, Normally, including the ISBN is enough to "prove" that the book was really written by the person. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 03:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
    SirEdimon, gotcha—thanks, they’re all there now. Innisfree987 (talk) 04:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 06:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

June 15[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

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Politics and elections

Sports


(Posted) RD: Thomas B. Day[edit]

Article: Thomas B. Day (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The San Diego Union-Tribune; San Diego State University
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 06:57, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support - Well-sourced article.--SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 02:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: The Career section appears to be incomplete. The first paragraph ends with him becoming the President of San Diego State in 1978. The second paragraph starts with his unpopular budget cuts in 1992 and he left for health reasons soon after. What happened in between? Any accomplishments during his 18 years as President? New student programs? Growth of funding for scholarly research? Campus expansions? Having campus facilities named after him? The current coverage on his career, with successes missing, seems a bit too negative. -PFHLai (talk) 05:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Thanks for the quick expansion. --PFHLai (talk) 12:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Ongoing: Israel–Palestine crisis[edit]

Article: 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT, CNN, AP, BBC, Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The ceasefire has been broken (which is itself big news) and things can escalate even more from here. Davey2116 (talk) 03:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Describing this definitively as a continuation of the same event seems like WP:OR. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 03:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I second this. It is equivalent to someone nominating Korean War for ongoing after a shootout occured in the borders.--Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 09:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The only updates that I can find are 1 sentence in the lede and a new date entry in the infobox. Let's give is a few days and some more update before we put this back in.130.233.213.61 (talk) 05:03, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Wait I had a feeling someone was going to nominate this immediately. There is no reason to be hasty, let's wait to see if anything escalates further. A single attack from both sides doesn't mean much. Mlb96 (talk) 06:51, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment We can post the ceasefire violation as a blurb for the moment and then decide on ongoing when it rolls off. Brandmeistertalk 06:55, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • 'Wait. I would think that they are probably testing new PM Bennett. Wait and see what happens. 331dot (talk) 07:18, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment – In context of recent past, a mere skirmish. – Sca (talk) 12:24, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Wait One incident does not make for a need for ongoing yet. --Masem (t) 13:01, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose I might support the ceasefire violation as a normal item, but I don't support return to ongoing yet.Jackattack1597 (talk) 15:11, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, wait for now Ceasefire should stay as normal item for now, if it's agreed upon; If it gets place on the normal news, if it gets bumped off, then that's when we should add the crisis to Ongoing. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 15:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Wait If there is a re-escalation, makes sense to reblurb first. Albertaont (talk) 03:35, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: William vanden Heuvel[edit]

Article: William vanden Heuvel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 01:22, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support looks a decent article, it could use a reference in the first sentence of the Career section JW 1961 Talk 21:36, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 00:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

June 14[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime


(Posted) RD: Manuel Clavero[edit]

Article: Manuel Clavero (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): La Vanguardia
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish politician who during the Transition was in charge of developing the current system of autonomies. I have been working on it between today and yesterday, but it's not finished yet. The section that talks about his period as assistant minister of regions, I do not know if it's very clear for someone who does not know the Spanish autonomic and constitutional law, so please let me know if clarifications are needed. A review of grammar may be also necessary. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Nom. comment finished. Seems ready to be posted. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good now --Vacant0 (talk) 22:16, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:29, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Enrique Bolaños[edit]

Article: Enrique Bolaños (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Confidencial
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former President of Nicaragua. Needs referencing and other revision but this substantial obit should help a lot. Additional assistance especially from Spanish speakers gratefully welcomed! Innisfree987 (talk) 08:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose article is orange-tagged as needing more sources. Many citation needed tags which need fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:51, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
    @Joseph2302: fixed. Perhaps now it's ready. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 09:53, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
    Support looks fine for RD now, thanks for fixing. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mburumba Kerina[edit]

Article: Mburumba Kerina (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Namibian politician with a key role the in the construction of his country. Article seems in good shape. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support article definitely good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:37, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:07, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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Disasters and accidents

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Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: Ashley Henley[edit]

Article: Ashley Henley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Murdered politician. It's still on the short side, but I'll work to expand it more on my next break. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:01, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Just barely above a stub, but the article is comprehensive and well referenced.130.233.213.61 (talk) 05:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support It would be great if her activity as a politician could be expanded a bit more, but I think it's already enough as it is. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 00:39, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Carol Jarecki[edit]

Article: Carol Jarecki (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 19:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support looks good enough for RD. Minor thing: a couple of links are pointing to a DAB page, would be nice to fix (though this shouldn't preclude the nomination from going on front page). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:18, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 22:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ziona[edit]

Article: Ziona (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AJ, BBC, CNN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian man with 94 children. No, I'm not kidding. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:01, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support article quality looks more than good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:15, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

RD: Ned Beatty[edit]

Article: Ned Beatty (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs major updates and referencing to get to shape. Masem (t) 23:45, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Comments The lead seems overkill on listing off the films, there are lots of area's in the article that need sourcing from my first look. Govvy (talk) 12:02, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose pretty much his entire career is unref'd. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose His career is unreferenced, his filmography is unreferenced, the only thing that has good sourcing is his death. KingOfAllThings (thou shalt chatter!) 23:49, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

2021 French Open[edit]

Article: 2021 French Open (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In tennis, Barbora Krejčíková wins the Women's Singles and Novak Djokovic wins the Men's Singles at the French Open. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 --SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 21:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose target has no prose at all about either final. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:16, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose A page with mostly just tables of results is not sufficient, even for an ITNR item. See 2020 French Open, which was posted last year and had writeups for men's and women's singles.—Bagumba (talk) 07:27, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose needs more prose such as a writeup of the main events. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Not ready. Needs a referenced prose summary of the tournament and/or finals, not just data tables. Modest Genius talk 10:54, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • This seems to be a common theme with sports articles being nominated- they're being nominated with no text in the article summarising the event itself... Joseph2302 (talk) 11:12, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • That's fine and nominating such articles here is a good way to advertise the need for improvement. The problem is when people think that the ITN/R status is an automatic qualifier that can bypass the quality requirement.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:09, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I agree that editors are allowed to nominate articles that aren't ready yet, in the hope of drawing more improvements to the article. I've done that myself in the past. But if the nominator knows the quality isn't good enough, that should really be mentioned in the nom comment. Modest Genius talk 14:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • My frustration isn't about people nominating before it's ready, it's that they nominate it and just leave it as is, with no effort to try and make it ITN-worthy. And it seems to happen a lot more with sports articles than any other type of article. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:56, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose In addition to lacking a prose update on who won, the article completely leaves out Naomi Osaka's withdrawal, which made bigger news than the finals, as far as I can tell. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:38, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Naftali Bennett, Thirty-sixth government of Israel (Benjamin Netanyahu ousted)[edit]

Proposed image
Articles: Naftali Bennett (talk · history · tag) and Thirty-sixth government of Israel (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In Israel, a new government is constituted by a vote of the Knesset, with Naftali Bennett of the New Right replacing Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Naftali Bennett replaces Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister of Israel.
Alternative blurb II: Naftali Bennett replaces Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister of Israel, ending the latter's twelve-year tenure.
Alternative blurb III: Naftali Bennett is selected as Prime Minister of Israel, succeeding Benjamin Netanyahu.
Alternative blurb IV: Naftali Bennett becomes Prime Minister of Israel, ending Benjamin Netanyahu's 12-year tenure.
News source(s): NYT, WaPo, CNN, AP, BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: End of the Netanyahu era! And not short enough it was. Davey2116 (talk) 18:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support - I suggest maybe adding a picture and mentioning Netanyahu's twelve-year tenure? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 18:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support alt blurb 2 If it's possible it would be good to include Thirty-sixth government of Israel in the blurb, a well-written article that describes/described the government formation. --Vacant0 (talk) 18:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support with the conditions above. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 18:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, but there are a few citation issues in each article precluding its posting just yet.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:23, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The Prime Minister of Israel article needs a lot of work, as the vast majority of the text is uncited. I've added altblurb 3 which is closer to the usual ITN format. Uses x (leave me a message) 18:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    • Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the quality requirements only apply to the target article. Mlb96 (talk) 20:13, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
      It's a definite no if the target article doesn't meet the requirements (which doesn't apply here), but if there's concensus to require the other articles to meet a certain standard then that's okay too. Uses x (leave me a message) 21:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

  • Support – pending expansion. Favor Alt3. – Sca (talk) 18:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support 12 years in office, the end of a political crisis with 4 failed elections, consequences on recent events, and (per sources) has a lasting legacy. Undoubtedly should be on ITN. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    It's ITN/R so notability is already considered. Uses x (leave me a message) 20:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Alt 4 The length of Netanyahu's tenure is notable because of how incredibly long it was. Makes sense to include that in the blurb. Mlb96 (talk) 20:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: I've adjusted the nom template above to have Naftali Bennett as the primary target article. The original target Thirty-sixth government of Israel is not in the latter alt blurbs. BTW, Bennett's bio could use more refs. --PFHLai (talk) 20:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support immediately. --2601:C4:C300:1BD0:A14A:7D4C:4235:991D (talk) 20:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Both ITNR but also the unusual circumstances of how it happened. Albertaont (talk) 21:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Alt 4. What's the common noun for when there's 4 elections in 2 years cause parliaments? Maybe that should be mentioned too, like Naftali Bennett becomes Prime Minister of Israel, ending Benjamin Netanyahu's 12-year tenure and 26 months of coalition difficulty. (or whatever you parliamentary countries call it) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 21:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment interesting, we have an RFC ongoing where the proposal of a purely mechanical blurb is mandated. I guess some of us are robots, some dogs, and the rest somewhere between sentient beings and keyboard warriors, but I cherish this as a precise and deadly antidote to the nonsense "A equals B plus C" formulaic nonsense being proposed for this kind of thing. We need to be human about every story we publish, not some kind of algorithmic output. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:12, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support this is a major event that will affect every single country in the Middle East. I think that it's important to mention that Netanyahu was the prime minister of Israel for 12 in a row so Alt 4 is my favourite option.Benbaruch (talk) 21:24, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Alt blurb5 to include both nominated target articles: A new government is formed in Israel, with Naftali Bennett (pictured) replacing Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister. --PFHLai (talk) 21:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support alt 4, to give some context --Andrei (talk) 21:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Clear support on importance + ITNR, obviously wait until Bennett's article's is fixed up (a handful of tags, its almost there). I'd also recommend trying to get Netanyahu's article to be up there - its also similarly not far off, and its key to understanding this is important and more than just a simple transfer of power. --Masem (t) 21:43, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted a modified version of blurbs 4/5. -PFHLai (talk) 22:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    • Why was this posted with clear citation needed tags in Bennett's article? --Masem (t) 23:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
      Only a few... and not controversial. There are already almost a hundred refs in the article. --PFHLai (talk) 00:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
I agree. I don't think the public interest should be superseded by a few cns. In general, I've always felt such an approach to be a bit dogmatic. El_C 00:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Pull the bold linked article is a BLP with CN tags. The solar eclipse was pulled for some whining at WP:ERRORS this is an actual issue. The bit about increasing visits to west bank "heritage sites" demands a citation. I've not checked the rest of the citations, I hope someone did. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Prime Minister of Israel is orange tagged bold or not we can't feature that on the MP. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
"Prime Minister of Israel" is not featured. --PFHLai (talk) 01:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
My removal of unreferenced material was reverted without explanation. It's a BLP, I challenged and removed the unreferenced material, and I was reverted. Does WP:BLP even exist anymore? FYI @Bagumba: --LaserLegs (talk) 17:57, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps Talk:Naftali Bennett would be a better place to discuss these issues with article contents, please? Or the user talk page of the reverting editor, perhaps? --PFHLai (talk) 22:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
ARBPIA is a dumpster fire and I'm not going anywhere near it. I called attention to it, even took some action, and consensus is that unreferenced content in BLPs are fine for the MP. Should improve RD turnaround. Good luck. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:08, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Toeti Heraty[edit]

Article: Toeti Heraty (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indonesian poet.

  • Support - I don't see any major flaw in the sourcing.--SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 21:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Marginally notable person with little news coverage. While it technically meets the requirements, it's marginal. 1779Days (talk) 23:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    Supports and Opposes to RD nominations should be based on article quality, not notability. Jackattack1597 (talk) 23:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    1779Days, Please, read Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Voicing_an_opinion_on_an_item before voicing your opinion. Regards. SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 23:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article looks fine, no tags. Jackattack1597 (talk) 23:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comments/Minor suggestions: This article could use a few more refs and footnotes for various points regarding her career in academia (e.g. being chair, co-founding a department, etc.) Also need consistent vocabulary (is she "Dean" (in the prose) or the "Rector" (in the infobox) of the Jakarta Institute of the Arts"? Should her poem's English title be "Calon Arang: the Story of A Woman Victimized by Patriarchy" (in the prose) or "Calon Arang : the story of a woman sacrificed to patriarchy" (in the list of publications)? Or are they actually two different poems?) --PFHLai (talk) 03:29, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support good enough for RD. Have marked as ready. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted I've also moved my minor questions at Talk:Toeti Heraty. Not big enough problems to halt this RD nom. --PFHLai (talk) 13:49, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

47th G7 summit[edit]

Article: 47th G7 summit (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The 47th G7 summit concludes, with leaders pledging to take action on COVID-19 and the climate. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​Leaders pledge to donate 1 billion COVID-19 vaccines to developing nations and to reach net-zero carbon emissions by 2050 at the 47th G7 summit
Alternative blurb II: ​Leaders of the G7 nations call for peace in the Taiwan Strait, pledge to donate 1 billion COVID-19 vaccines to developing nations, and pledge to take action on climate at the 47th G7 summit
Alternative blurb III: ​The 47th G7 summit concludes, with leaders agreeing to enact a minimum global corporate tax rate, donate 1 billion COVID-19 vaccines, and take action on climate change.
News source(s): CBC, DW, Japan Times
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Meeting of the G7 nations pledging to donate vaccines, take climate initiative, and call for peace. Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 18:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Is this WP:ITNR? Kind of feels like it should be if it isn't, but I can also understand if it's mostly publicity these days. My support/oppose is based on the answer to that question.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:26, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    John M Wolfson, ITNR at Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items#Economic and political summits. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:28, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose still some citation issues and the article being tagged.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    I think those are fixed now. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 18:49, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article quality issues have been fixedJackattack1597 (talk) 19:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now There's no update. For instance, the 1 billion COVID vaccine pledge and Taiwan Strait call for peace listed in the proposed blurbs are not mentioned in the article. The "Agenda" section talks about what will happen, but not was has happened. Another specific example is Boris Johnson and Joe Biden will aim to 'unlock' travel restrictions between UK and amber-list US at G7 summit.[25] Well, did they? – Muboshgu (talk) 20:16, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    Updated. --Aknell4 (talk · contribs) 20:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak support added a blurb which included the discussed measures from a week ago that ITN decided to postpone until the end of the summit. Article quality could be better but I think it's acceptable as is. NorthernFalcon (talk) 20:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose vaccine pledges, taiwan strait, net zero were all announced by various G7 members prior to the summit. (Most coverage being on the US and a lesser extent UK vaccine and environment pledges). so what is the news? Albertaont (talk) 21:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose nothing at all in there about what actually happened. Is this a joke, question??/ The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per all of the above, needs way more text on what the outcomes/main discussions there were. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:49, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose ― Not ready. STSC (talk) 14:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

June 12[edit]

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RD: Getatchew Haile[edit]

Article: Getatchew Haile (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tadias Fana EPA
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Important Ethiopian philologist. Varavour (talk) 23:58, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Died on the 10th. Stephen 00:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Need a bit more on his death than just putting the date of death in a bracket next to his date of birth on the first line of the article. --PFHLai (talk) 03:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

RD: Sanchari Vijay[edit]

Article: Sanchari Vijay (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment quite a bit of the filmography still needs sourcing. Once that's fixed, looks good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:31, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Milton Moses Ginsberg[edit]

Article: Milton Moses Ginsberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only reported today (June 12); died on May 23. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose Given the lag between his death and reporting it suggests he is not really that notable enough for ITN, consider the New York Times at the beginning of the article noted he fell "into obscurity". Govvy (talk) 09:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    Anyone with an article is presumed to meet the notability requirement for RD, votes should only be based on article quality.Jackattack1597 (talk) 11:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    And even if this was based on notability, it's not measured by how quickly a grieving family chooses to go public.—Bagumba (talk) 11:20, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    Not a reason to oppose. Uses x (leave me a message) 20:06, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    Uses x, did you see the ref issues? SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 03:38, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
    @SirEdimon I don't know what you're referring to. That comment only makes mention of notability which isn't needed for ITN/RD. Uses x (leave me a message) 06:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
    @SirEdimon: all tags have now been addressed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:07, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Now sufficient for RD JW 1961 Talk 09:04, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 09:33, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mudcat Grant[edit]

Article: Mudcat Grant (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MLB.com; Star Tribune; CBS Sports
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 21:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Christian Eriksen heart attack[edit]

No consensus. Stephen 22:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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Article: Christian Eriksen (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Danish footballer Christian Eriksen collapses during a match against Finland at the UEFA Euro 2020 tournament (Post)
Alternative blurb: Footballer Christian Eriksen is hospitalised after collapsing during a match.
Alternative blurb II: ​Danish footballer Christian Eriksen collapses during a match against Finland.
News source(s): Breakingnews.ie; The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
 REDMAN 2019 (talk) 19:20, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I think it should be "Danish footballer Christian Eriksen collapses during a match against Finland at the UEFA Euro 2020 tournament". GiantSnowman 19:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Done. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
In which case support. GiantSnowman 19:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support —¿philoserf? (talk) 19:28, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose He collapsed, but he's in stable condition. No impact beyond a suspended match. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Apart from it being front-page news across the world? GiantSnowman 19:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
You know that there's more to In The News than getting picked up in a 24 hour news cycle. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Muboshgu. Not palpably important if you aren't into football. He is alert and conscious, so it's not like he's on death's door. Nohomersryan (talk) 19:49, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose - thankfully this turned out not to be as grave as it first appeared. I'm very happy this isn't sufficiently notable for ITN. --LukeSurl t c 20:07, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Finland's 1:0 victory may be more significant than this scary episode of medical drama on the pitch. Has Finland ever won at this tourney? --PFHLai (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Nope. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 20:15, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose It was highly disturbing and serious, but it is not front page material for us here at Wikipedia. I think we all know what would be. doktorb wordsdeeds 20:32, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose assuming he gets better, there will be no long term impact of this. The teams playing the rest of the game today and Finland winning will (hopefully) be the highlight everyone remembers. But this isn't ITN worthy. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:45, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose This is an example of "ITN is not a news ticker." Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:48, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Thankfully he seems to have gotten somewhat better, so it really doesn't have long term significance. I don't believe we posted a similar incident in the FA cup in 2012.Jackattack1597 (talk) 21:15, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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RD: Igor Zhelezovski[edit]

Article: Igor Zhelezovski (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Белорусский союз конькобежцев
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Count Iblis (talk) 11:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose There is no mention of source for his death in the article. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
    • A source has now been added in the article. According to the source, he died of COVID. Count Iblis (talk) 17:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The article is not good. It is just a giant lead section, then some tables. In addition, it is sparsely referenced. Nohomersryan (talk) 18:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

June 11[edit]

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(Posted) RD: Dame Georgina Kirby[edit]

Article: Georgina Kirby (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dame-georgina-kirby-remembered-as-a-strongminded-visionary-leader/WNAFVH7E6JOMJ3R3XGXWCZOJBU/
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 MurielMary (talk) 11:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Posted Stephen 00:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Taha Karaan[edit]

Article: Taha Karaan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): News24.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South African scholar who was known as "The Junior Al-Shafi'i". Article updated. I'm not able to find further information online but the article is not a stub either. Everything is well-cited. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Pulitzer Prizes[edit]

No consensus to post, and no prose was added. Stephen 00:34, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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Article: 2021 Pulitzer Prize (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: The 2021 Pulitzer Prizes are awarded, with the public service award, the top honor in American journalism, going to The New York Times for its coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​The Pulitzer Prizes are awarded, with the public service award, the top honor in U.S. journalism, going to The New York Times for its coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Alternative blurb II: ​In U.S. journalism, the Pulitzer Prizes are awarded, with The New York Times receiving the Public Service award for its coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic.
News source(s): The New York Times (with editorial firewall), Poynter
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Based on the allocations at WP:ITNAWARDS, we can reasonably justify about one item for journalism awards per year, and the Pulitzers are unquestionably the most significant. The last time it was proposed here that I could find, in 2014, it was successfully posted. The 2021 article still needs some development, but once it's ready it should appear. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 18:01, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Don't see any issue with notability, and the articles are decent. Also, would anybody else be interested in trying to put the Pullitzers in ITNR? ( The main issue with ITNR is that they are US based, so that might be a major obstacle)Jackattack1597 (talk) 19:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment ALT1 is of the correct standard format for ITN blurbs for annual events. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:22, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Arguably, if we were comparing this to other awards, the 2021 awards article is literally just tables without any description. Just checking the refs related to this year's prizes there's at least something to write about the delay, as well as about the special award to the teenager that captured the George Floyd video. --Masem (t) 20:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment – In the first two proposed blurbs, the comma between journalism and going (" ...journalism, going...") isn't U.S. English punctuation practice, may confuse U.S. readers, and should be dropped. (Also, suggest "American" be replaced by "U.S." as more specific.) – Sca (talk) 12:49, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Masem. The article almost completely consists of tables containing quotes about the winners and we cannot post it in such shape given the number of other articles that were denied because of the same reason. I'm also unsure about its notability and the choice of putting The New York Times in the blurb when Darnella Frazier's recording of the murder of George Floyd makes bigger news. I've checked that the last time we posted this prize was in 2014 and before it in 2010, which clearly indicates that it's not a standard ITN material for some reason. That being said, I'd like to support a blurb mentioning Darnella Frazier instead of The New York Times once the article is substantially improved with a prose update. Otherwise, outright oppose because the routine awarding of this prize is not that notable.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:37, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Note/comment: I've struck the first blurb per Joseph and changed "American" to "U.S." per Sca. The comma between "journalism" and "going" is correct; it marks off the middle clause. I added a little more broad characterization of the awards, so the article is plenty well-developed now; it's a quasi-list, as the main thing to say about the awards is who won them, but that's fine. The board's own descriptions which we quote contain plenty of info. I disagree that the Fraser citation is the most significant—it's not even a formal Pulitzer, just a special citation, and it's not what the news coverage has focused most on. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 20:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Support ALT/ALT2 as ready to post as nom. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 20:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • 'Comm(a)ent – The comma between "journalism" and "going" is not correct in U.S. English. If I'm not mistaken, this punctuation is British English practice, ergo ENGVAR. As this is a U.S.-oriented item, U.S.-English punctuation – which wouild definitely not countenance an intervening comma at this point – should be followed and the comma deleted. I'll bet my (retired) journalist's hat on that. TNX. – Sca (talk) 22:55, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
    english was my worst subject when i was a student, and i confuse british and u.s. english practices all the time, but i had interpreted "the top honor in U.S. journalism" as a nonrestrictive appositive, which, i believe, is generally set apart by commas in both english variants. i don't have a journalist's hat to bet, though. also, i agree with using "U.S." instead of "American". dying (talk) 00:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    English was my best subject, from first grade to getting my reporter's hat to whatever I'm doing now. It's a perfectly cromulent comma. And that's coming from a Canadian, bilingual in British and American. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:52, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • No journalist, but a once-English teacher, both Brit and Am. That comma is correct, feel free to debate the one between "awarded" and "with", though. Kingsif (talk) 03:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
No it wasn't, compadre, as there was no textual reason to pause there. But since the offending original blurb has been stricken and Alt1 revised, the point is now moot. Such a relief. – Sca (talk) 13:19, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
The appositive can be either separated with two or without commas and leaving one comma is incorrect. This is a rule in all Indo-European languages.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:41, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Catching up on this thread. Just for my knowledge, what is the consensus on the comma between 'awarded' and 'with'? Thanks. Ktin (talk) 14:43, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Anything but Alt II The New York Times is a single entity, no matter what letter its name ends on, or how many people it employs. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:13, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    Agreed. I'm not sure who added that alt, but since it's a simple grammar matter, I'm going to change the "their coverage" to "its coverage". {{u|Sdkb}}talk 08:44, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Furthermore, that "with" is extranabulous, sufficiently implied by its little buddy, the comma. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: So little prose? Was kind of expecting some mention of the first ever Pulitzers for The Atlantic and for BuzzFeed News. Maybe a bit more on the kid with the phone video on Floyd and Chauvin, or reactions of some of the finalists and winners. --PFHLai (talk) 11:25, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
    Added a sentence about the firsts. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:36, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment – Getting stale. – Sca (talk) 12:53, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
    Yeah, this needs to be posted soon if it's going to be. All of the major blurb/article concerns from above have been addressed. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Question Do we use quotes this way in other ITN articles? WP:NPS seems to apply. Without the quotes, this article is only 703 characters long. Joofjoof (talk) 08:05, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
    No. The article is not of sufficient quality for posting and we have denied many articles in similar shape. I don't know why you got the impression that this is ready for posting when it's clearly not and there's not even consensus for it.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:46, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
    • @Joofjoof: Yes—look at our Nobel articles, where we do a very similar thing. That's another case where the quotes are brief and are an official component of the award itself. The article is plenty comprehensive—the main thing to say about the awards is who got them, so of course that's what the vast majority of the article focuses on. Do we complain when list pages are quite short if you ignore the list itself? {{u|Sdkb}}talk 16:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
      • That said, I would only include the full quotes for the winners; the nominees we can at least reference the events indicated by the quotes. --Masem (t) 17:33, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Ei-ichi Negishi[edit]

Article: Ei-ichi Negishi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Kyodo
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Chemist who won the 2010 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his discovery of the Negishi coupling. His death was announced today, but he died on Sunday. Johndavies837 (talk) 17:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Meets quality standards. Grimes2 (talk) 08:53, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 11:02, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing: UEFA Euro 2020[edit]

No consensus. Stephen 22:13, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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Article: UEFA Euro 2020 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: The conclusion of the championship is an ITN/R item but we can have it posted to ongoing until the winner is known. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose posting single sport events in progress to ongoing, as I always have. That was never the intention of Ongoing. This is also not a global event like the World Cup. 331dot (talk) 17:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose any sports item as ongoing except for the Olympics per past consensus. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:11, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
I am fairly sure we posted the World Cup; I disagree with that too, but it is at least a global event. 331dot (talk) 17:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
We do post the World Cup to ongoing, but that is due to its scale being more international, not just limited to one region. This can have its results ITNR, but it doesn't make sense to have a regional event ongoing. --Masem (t) 19:36, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
World Cup is an uphill battle to fight. At least it does involve the entire world. UEFA European Championship not so much. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Wait until the end and post the result. Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • oppose' sports are not ongoing the results (unfortunately) get posted at the end This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose maybe for the World Cup, but not Euros. Otherwise we'll end up forced to post Copa América too, as that starts this week. Wait til it ends, then nominate the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Too early to consider May be more supportive if a surprise team such as North Macedonia wins the tourney. --PFHLai (talk) 23:21, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose because usually only the result of the final is important enough to post. Jim Michael (talk) 12:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Ongoing for any sports event besides the Olympics and possibly the world cup.Suggest a WP:SNOW close. Jackattack1597 (talk) 17:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Ashok Panagariya[edit]

Article: Ashok Panagariya (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TheTimes of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:47, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Looks good --Vacant0 (talk) 11:45, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 10:53, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Geoffrey Edelsten[edit]

Article: Geoffrey Edelsten (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian (Australian Associated Press); The Sydney Morning Herald
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 10:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Support well-cited --Vacant0 (talk) 11:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 19:00, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

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