Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS. Archives of past nominations can be found here.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

A blurb is a one sentence summary of the news story. An alternate suggestion for the blurb is called an altblurb, and any more suggestions get labelled alt1, alt2, etc. A blurb needs at least one target article, highlighted in bold; reviewers check the quality of that article and whether it is updated, and whether reliable sources demonstrate the significance of the event. Other articles can also be linked. The Ongoing line is for regularly updated articles which cover events that remain in the news over a longer period of time. RD stands for the "recent deaths" line, and can include any living thing whose death was recently announced. In some cases, recent deaths may need additional explanation as provided by a blurb; this is decided by consensus.

Philip Pierre in 2020
Philip Pierre

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated).
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do not...[edit]

  1. add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  2. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  3. accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  4. comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. The criteria can be discussed at the relevant talk page.
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July 29[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment


July 28[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

  • Argentina announces that they will pay $250 million to the Paris Club and $350 million to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to avoid default. Economy minister Martín Guzmán asks both entities to restructure the debts in order to make payment viable. The IMF has expressed its willingness for the payment after months of negotiations on a $45 billion debt acquired by the previous administration. (Ámbito)

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

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Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Ron Popeil[edit]

Article: Ron Popeil (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: TV Advertising Pioneer Spman (talk) 22:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Maharashtra floods[edit]

Article: 2021 Maharashtra floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Floods in western Maharashtra of India results in deaths of over 250. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Floods in western Maharashtra, India, result in over 250 deaths.
News source(s): Indian Express
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: large death toll and effects seen since 22 July 2021 affecting large population. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 17:01, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Support article is short but quality is sufficient. Event is covered by major news outlets. Checks all of the boxes. --Jayron32 17:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Support on significance, Weak Oppose on length (Though I do agree that the quality is sufficient) - There are no images except for the map, and I feel that the article can be expanded further. Tube·of·Light 01:21, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - Article looks good. Sherenk1 (talk) 03:13, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 04:21, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

July 27[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

  • Hong Kong national security law
  • The trial against Cardinal Giovanni Angelo Becciu and ten others for financial crimes opens in the Holy See. Becciu and a monsignor are the only two to appear in court in person. Becciu denied any wrongdoing and the trial was adjourned. Pope Francis had previously stripped Becciu of his immunity and approved his indictment. Becciu's lawyers asked the court not to order the Cardinal's arrest. (Reuters)

Sports


RD: Joey Jordison[edit]

Article: Joey Jordison (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Drummer for Slipknot. Died on the 26th, announced today. Mlb96 (talk) 03:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support One of the most well-known and influential drummers in metal music. Basil the Bat Lord (talk) 03:18, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose – 3 paragraphs/sentences unsourced; most of discography and parts of the filmography unsourced. —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support once brought up to par. A rather unusual death considering his age. Dare one suggest a blurb?--WaltCip-(talk) 12:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
    • You know full well that "support once brought up to par" is meaningless when discussing RD, and that he obviously wasn't worthy of a blurb, so I'm not sure what the point of your comment was. -- Kicking222 (talk) 04:30, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

RD: Dusty Hill[edit]

Article: Dusty Hill (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rolling Stone, Deadline Hollywood, BBC, The Guardian, The Independent, Variety
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bassist of ZZ Top. Article needs a few more refs (short but given his primary notability is with the band, that's expected). Masem (t) 19:18, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose really crap article for such a prominent musician. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:25, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose (edit conflict) For an eminently notable person, this article doesn't establish such and is barely more than a stub. Also missing sources for near about everything. Desperately needs clean-up work. Kingsif (talk) 19:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
    • FWIW, from when I nominated it, the sourcing has been drastically improved and looks ready from solely that point. --Masem (t) 23:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
    • We may have differing views on what constitutes "a stub". Martinevans123 (talk) 07:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support As explained by nominator, "short but given his primary notability is with the band, that's expected". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Rambles. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:04, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Just to check, you think the article is "really crap", yes? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:51, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Not sure what state the article was in when it was first nominated, but as now, while short, it is definitely longer than a stub, and it seems fully referenced. --Jayron32 10:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mike Hendrick[edit]

Article: Mike Hendrick (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News; ESPN; The Guardian (PA Media); The Daily Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 02:37, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Adequate depth of coverage, referenced. Would like to see a little more about his domestic test career but what's there meets minimum standards. SpencerT•C 13:07, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support good enough for me. Marked as ready. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 00:11, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Menchu Álvarez del Valle[edit]

Article: Menchu Álvarez del Valle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC.es
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish radio journalist and grandmother of the Queen consort of Spain. I've updated her article and seems pretty ready. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:57, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Article is relatively brief but covers what the subject was notable for with adequate depth. Referenced. SpencerT•C 13:11, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Nom. comment Marking it's ready because...it's ready. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 20:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 23:59, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Saint Lucian general election[edit]

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Article: 2021 Saint Lucian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The Saint Lucia Labour Party, led by Philip Pierre (pictured), wins the general election. (Post)
News source(s): St. Lucia Star, St. Lucia Times, New York Carib News
Credits:
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article is being expanded. The new PM is expected to be sworn in this week. Joofjoof (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak support the article seems to be close to being ready, but it would be convenient to have a section on the election polls, the reactions and aftermath and, if possible, something more about the results. As soon as this is fixed, my support will be full. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 08:29, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support In far better shape than most elections when they first get nominated. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 16:58, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak support per Alsoriano97. Article quality is decent, could use some beefing up, but it is better than many elections articles. --Jayron32 17:34, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 01:55, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

July 26[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Rosine Vieyra Soglo[edit]

Article: Rosine Vieyra Soglo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): VOA Africa, Taarifa Rwanda
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First Lady of Benin, 1991-1996. Been undergoing an impressive expansion the past few days. Will likely be a good RD candidate very soon. --PFHLai (talk) 06:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Typhoon In-fa and 2021 Henan floods[edit]

Article: Typhoon In-fa (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The combined effects of flash floods and Typhoon In-fa leave more than 70 dead across China, Japan, and the Philippines. (Post)
News source(s): NPR, The Washington Post, CNN, BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: The slow-moving Typhoon In-fa has exacerbated floods across Eastern China, producing extreme rains in many areas and triggering additional flash floods. The effects of the typhoon are inseparable from the preceding floods in some areas so a combined blurb with a broader geographic mention is appropriate in my opinion. Both articles are well-sourced and In-fa's is especially fleshed out. Yet another extreme weather event in this month of relentless flash floods. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 19:36, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support updated blurb it's already a blurb. New article is clearly relevant to the blurb, and it meets quality requirements. NorthernFalcon (talk) 01:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per Cyclonebiskit HurricaneEdgar 03:03, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support updating blurb as new article is more than good enough, and demonstrates a wider importance. And the one already on front page is still fine. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support – Per Cyclonebiskit. Both events are related and definitely relevant enough to receive their own ITN posts. the updated blurb is appropriate, in light of the unfolding flooding disaster, and the significance of the event definitely warrants this. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 06:51, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is in good shape. Although there's still one cn tag pending to be fixed. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 08:31, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment – Topic absent from prime RS sites on Wednesday. (BBC, CNN cites above are three days old.) Nominator is a member of WikiProject Tropical cyclones, as are users HurricaneParrot and StopBoi.Sca (talk) 14:00, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Being a member (or not) of a WikiProject isn't a reason to ignore people's opinions. Although your thinly veiled attempts to claim bias towards supporters of this nomination are clear. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:12, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
I didn't say it was. As noted in the past, the topic of WPTC is relevant to the subject of this nomination. No bias on my part. (And BTW, one of my favorite sea stories is Typhoon by Joseph Conrad, about which I wrote a term paper eons ago. Recommended reading.).
Sca (talk) 18:42, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Unless the typhoon itself brings significantly more deaths to the current toll (based on the numbers that I see how the ITN template has been updated over the last few days as the current blurb has been there), I don't see a need for this. If the typhoon is found to contribute to dozens of additional deaths, then I would agree that a new blurb would be reasonable, but right now, the deaths seem mostly to stem from the original flooding/mudslides before the typhoon arrived. --Masem (t) 14:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
About $2 billion USD excluding Henan vs $14.7 billion including, others can judge if the deaths plus $2 billion where a dollar builds more is enough. It landed north of earlier forecasts which likely kept it a few inches under the mainland China cyclone rain record of ~a meter instead of above (coastal mountain ranges are like juicers that rapidly dissemble uphill-blowing parts of cyclones into orographic rain, the taller (2.5 vertical miles!) coast at Taiwan once made 10.04 feet of rain from weak typhoon) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

RD: Mike Enzi[edit]

Article: Mike Enzi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, Reuters
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former US Senator of 20+ years Roniiustalk to me 10:08, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

  • More refs needed to address {CN} tags and paragraphs with no footnotes. The section on Electoral history is also unref'd. --PFHLai (talk) 10:23, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • @PFHLai: Hey I am going to fix all of these problems today since I just finished writing the article about his successor Cynthia Lummis. I just added some stuff about his early political career too. Jon698 (talk) 12:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • That's great, Jon698. Please consider adding yourself to the list of updaters when you are done updating this wikibio for RD. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:42, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the work on this article thus far. I agree with Alsoriano97's comments below. And the "Committee assignments" subsection would be better presented as prose rather than bullet-points. --PFHLai (talk) 23:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Jon698 I just added a few more cn tags, which I imagine can be easily fixed. The "Committee assignments" subsection should have also be sourced. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 20:47, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

July 25[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


(Posted) RD: R. Rajamahendran[edit]

Article: R. Rajamahendran (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily News, EconomyNext
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: pioneer of Sri Lanka media and served as a prominent figure of Sri Lanka Cricket Abishe (talk) 05:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support - Fully sourced start-class article. Meets criteria for RD.--SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 05:49, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:23, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Tunisian prime minister ouster[edit]

Article: 2021 Tunisian political crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​After days of protests, Tunisian President Kais Saied dismisses Prime Minister Hichem Mechichi, triggering a constitutional crisis. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​After days of protests, Tunisian President Kais Saied dismisses Prime Minister Hichem Mechichi and suspends the Parliament's activity, triggering a constitutional crisis
News source(s): Associated Press, Reuters, Washington Post, Al Jazeera
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Magnitude of the events unclear so far, but generally encyclopedic. bender235 (talk) 22:02, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment – Widely reported on Monday. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] Police occupied Al Jazeera bureau, ejected staff.
    Sca (talk) 12:52, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Kais Saied (which is article linked in the nom) has quite a bit of unsourced content, which would need fixing, as well as an expansion of the lead. Hichem Mechichi is also too short for front page. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:59, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
There now exists a dedicated article on the current events: 2021 Tunisian political crisis. --bender235 (talk) 15:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
It is a bit short but this should be the target article. Support on notability when expanded. --Tone 17:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Agree that should be the target article if posted. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:10, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak support It's ITNworthy, no doubt, and is having at least outstanding international coverage. But the target article is perhaps still too short. I also think the blurb should also indicate that Parliament has been suspended, but I don't know how to make it less long. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:32, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Let's see if you think the altblurb I've proposed looks better. It doesn't seem outrageously too long. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, oppose due to quality As of my viewing of the article, it's one sentence paragraphs in the lead and the body consists only of "reactions" in bulleted lists. We need a proper article body. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:11, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
    Agree. Trash the flag salad. – Sca (talk) 22:02, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose – on quality. The flags are gone, and that's a relief, but the 'Reactions' section still comprises 80 percent of the wordage. More narrative prose, less peripheral comment would improve the article. – Sca (talk) 12:41, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
    But don't you care what Qatar thinks? WaltCip-(talk) 16:52, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Youn mean Kater? – Sca (talk) 19:03, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality needs more prose, rather than just being a list of reactions. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:10, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - on importance. Important news in the Arab World. Putting it in the "In the News" section is a good way to help other countries to wake up and help Tunisia's democracy.ATGYT12 (talk) 17:55, 27 July 2021 (UTC+1)
    • No, that's not the purpose of ITN. Please see WP:RGW.--WaltCip-(talk) 17:03, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
      • Regardless of WP:RGW, I don't think anyone would argue that this lacks the importance to be on ITN. -- Kicking222 (talk) 17:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
    No one's arguing that. It's the substandard character of the article that bars it from Main Page promotion. – Sca (talk) 18:53, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose on quality I'm OK with an article that doesn't have much prose showing up on ITN, but the article currently needs a bit more background and a few more references. -- Kicking222 (talk) 17:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho[edit]

Article: Otelo Saraiva de Carvalho (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TSF radio; Observador
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Portuguese military officer, chief strategist of the Carnation Revolution Pachu Kannan (talk) 11:27, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the editing conflict! :-) --PFHLai (talk) 13:08, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is now fully sourced and ready. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 13:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 13:08, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

RD: Bob Moses[edit]

Article: Bob Moses (activist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Civil rights activist Schazjmd (talk) 19:33, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Needs a fair number of additional citations. I’ll try to work on it today. Innisfree987 (talk) 16:38, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

July 24[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Dieter Brummer[edit]

Article: Dieter Brummer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Home and Away actor, been BBC News' top story most of the day in the UK. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:38, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Awards and Filomographies will need referencing, will support when fixed JW 1961 Talk 17:23, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Herbert Köfer[edit]

Article: Herbert Köfer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Berliner Morgenpost and others
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The first German TV news presenter, and the oldest active actor from 2017 until he now died at 100. - There's much more on de in case someone has more time than I have. Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Article length ok, sourced. Grimes2 (talk) 11:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 13:02, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

RD: Rodney Alcala[edit]

Article: Rodney Alcala (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, BBC News, The Guardian
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Infamous serial killer who appeared on the game show The Dating Game. Well sourced and detailed. Inexpiable (talk) 15:21, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jackie Mason[edit]

Article: Jackie Mason (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, The Independent, The Guardian, Times of Israel
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs more refs, particularly in Jackie Mason#Works. --PFHLai (talk) 04:10, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

  • "My grandfather always said, Don't watch your money, watch your health. So one day while I was watching my health, someone stole my money. It was my grandfather." Martinevans123 (talk) 21:52, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  • The budget of this country was $136 billion last year. Do you know what I gave them? Twelve dollars. Without my $12 they can’t get along? First spend $136 billion, then, if you’re $12 short, give me a call.” -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:51, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Sierra Leone abolishes the death penalty[edit]

Consensus will not develop to post.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:20, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Capital punishment (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Sierra Leone ends capital punishment through a parliamentary vote (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian UK
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Self-explanatory Abcmaxx (talk) 22:42, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose a lot of countries have abolished the death penalty. Sierra Leone just joins a long list (at the bottom) of those countries who have stopped doing such foul and inhumane things. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:52, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
What about abortion lol. Though abortion restrictions would increase the % of the born who's parents were too unreluctant to kill fetus and too irresponsible to fulfill their simple wish of no conception and that would be even more inhumane. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:13, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Not the place. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 00:15, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per The Rambling Man. We haven't done it before, we won't do it now. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 23:07, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose. "23rd African state" to end it is not significant. 331dot (talk) 23:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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(Closed) RD: Mike Mitchell[edit]

Someone else died. --PFHLai (talk) 18:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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Article: Mike Mitchell (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TMZ: 'GLADIATOR,' 'BRAVEHEART' ACTOR DEAD AT 65
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
 Count Iblis (talk) 16:07, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose article has not been updated with reliable sources supporting the death. Again. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:14, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Questions/Caution: Please check if the correct Mike Mitchell got nominated for RD. Has this Mike Mitchell died, but this Mike Mitchell got nominated here instead? The nominated one is only 38 years ago, not 65 as reported by TMZ. Why rush before reliable sources are in place? --PFHLai (talk) 18:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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Mumbai landslide[edit]

Article: 2021 Mumbai landslide (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​At least 110 people have been killed in landslides and flooding triggered by heavy rains in the India state of Maharashtra. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Still a stub, needs to be updated. Significant loss of life. Sherenk1 (talk) 15:23, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

  • CommentAl Jazeera puts toll at 135+. – Sca (talk) 12:32, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment the article is barely more than a stub- could it be expanded? Joseph2302 (talk) 11:18, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

July 23[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

  • Burundian Minister for Mining Ibrahim Uwizeye suspends the operations of several international mining companies, including one running the only rare-earth mine in Africa, saying they were not properly sharing the profits and that the mining contracts signed were "unbalanced". (Africanews) (Xinhua)

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


(Posted) RD: Peter Trueman[edit]

Article: Peter Trueman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Global News; The Globe and Mail (Legacy.com)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 16:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Referenced, sufficient depth of coverage. SpencerT•C 00:47, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 02:28, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD/Blurb: Steven Weinberg[edit]

Article: Steven Weinberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP News, UT NEWS
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Count Iblis (talk) 07:24, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Asking for a blurb I believe Professor Weinberg is worthy of a blurb. He won a Nobel Prize for unifying two of the fundamental forces in the universe, and is considered among the top few physicists of a golden age of particle physics and physics generally, a field that is studied/use throughout the world Bumbubookworm (talk) 03:39, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - I can't find any WP:RS confirming his death.--SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 08:22, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose unless reliable sources (e.g. not just people on Twitter) announce that this is definitely true. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:38, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • He was one of the greatest physicists alive until yesterday, not some entertainer so it will take a while before you'll find a WP:RS reporting on this. Count Iblis (talk) 14:42, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Probably Monday morning. No rush... --PFHLai (talk) 15:28, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • And until that point, RD shouldn't be considered. We should not be encouraging nominations before RS actually report deaths. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:30, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • The article will now be updated per WP:IAR based on reliable twitter feeds in lieu of traditional sources, so RD should be considered when the article is updated. Count Iblis (talk) 16:55, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • WP:IAR does not apply to the fact that we need reliable sources to confirm death, and I don't see any RS saying it. People on Twitter are not RSes. Count Iblis where are these "reliable" Twitter sources- I just see random Twitter accounts posting it, no evidence of being official or reliable. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:10, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • See here. Quanta magazine is a reliable source, their twitter feed is verified. Count Iblis (talk) 17:18, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • WP:RS added. Count Iblis (talk) 20:59, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Reliable source added (Associated Press). Article sourced. Grimes2 (talk) 08:38, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose – 7 paragraphs/sentences unsourced; "Honors and awards" mostly unsourced. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:55, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
All reffed now Bumbubookworm (talk) 03:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Striking oppose for RD post-posting; oppose blurb per reasoning below. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong Support blurb definitely one of the top 10 physicists of the 20th century, involved in a seminal theory, in a field studied throughout the world, as opposed to a sport or field that is only practised in several countries Bumbubookworm (talk) 20:27, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
    This is a duplicate !vote.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose There are several tags in the article. Hanamanteo (talk) 02:34, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
All reffed now Bumbubookworm (talk) 03:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 04:05, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support blurb he was basically a living legend. Banedon (talk) 07:56, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
I've added some comments from his contemporaries. Hopefully that makes it clearer how incredibly profound his contributions were Bumbubookworm (talk) 15:08, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Bumbubookworm asked me to support a blurb; I notice that user has also !voted twice already. I'm not familiar enough with Weinberg's work (or the field he worked in) to decide whether he was transformative in theoretical physics. The quotes in the article are certainly impressive, though it's unclear whether he reaches the high threshold we set for a blurb. The article is surprisingly light on his research career, so even if his is blurb-worthy it won't be obvious to readers why. Stephen Hawking got a blurb; Weinberg was undoubtedly a better scientist, but Hawking had a much wider recognition. So I guess I'm agnostic on blurb vs RD. Modest Genius talk 18:31, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment for a "legend" I'm not seeing any real coverage of his death beyond the usual mundane stuff. Sounds like a load of hyperbole to me. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:34, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb per TRM due to lack of coverage that you saw for a David Bowie, a Margaret Thatcher, and yes, even Carrie Fisher. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb As a general rule we only blurb deaths when the death itself is the story. I do not see this as one of the rare cases (per WP:ITNRD) where we make an exception.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb if Freeman Dyson didn't get a blurb, neither should Weinberg.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Alfred Biolek[edit]

Article: Alfred Biolek (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FOCUS; Süddeutsche Zeitung
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German pioneer of talkshow, entertainer, television producer Grimes2 (talk) 11:17, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Can confirm he is well-known in Germany, though maybe not so much elsewhere. Article looks suitable. --LordPeterII (talk) 15:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
LordPeterII He doesn't need to be well known, as notability is not at issue for RD nominations. If he merits an article, he merits posting, once the article is adequately updated. 331dot (talk) 15:49, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support I meant to expand and nominate, - nice surprise that it's done --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Gerda made recently substancial contributions to the article, so added to updater. Grimes2 (talk) 09:22, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support looks well sourced and more than long enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:39, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 14:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Ongoing: Summer Olympics[edit]

Article: Chronological summary of the 2020 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: And they're off! Proper procedure per WP:ITNR is to have this article in ongoing, and the opening ceremony linked as a blurb. This article looks fine. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 14:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment is this article really a better choice than 2020 Summer Olympics to add to the ongoing? Especially when the calendar and Top NOCs by Athletes sections have 0 sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
    Yes, the chronological summary is what we always post to ongoing and even before it (remember that we had Olympic summary which motivated the introduction of the ongoing section).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
    So I am not the only one who remembers when the 2006 Winter Olympics took over half of ITN. Or when the 2004 Olympics had its own dedicated Main Page section and template. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
    But we'll always have the gift that keeps on giving (stubs), WP:NOLY.—Bagumba (talk) 03:32, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    This article is a mess that nobody seems to want to fix. Maybe common sense should be used, rather than trying to force crap onto the main page? Joseph2302 (talk) 16:33, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I prefer to post it as 'Olympic summary' rather than '2020 Summer Olympics' or 'Summary Olympics'. It's important to include the word 'summary' so that readers easily get what it really is.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:47, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment In 2016, ongoing linked Chronological summary of the 2016 Summer Olympics, piping it to "Summer Olympics".[6]Bagumba (talk) 15:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose I'm not seeing any detail or any citations. ITNR it may be but this is clearly not serving our readers. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Only post if the page will be regularly be updated and cited. I myself will not be doing it this year. Not only I am more busy in real life, but I am concerned about the current page sizes and the use of collapsible tables on both the 2016 and 2020 articles (see here and here). The addition of a list of Top NOC by Athletes was not my idea either. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
    Regardless of who is updating, the page is currently mostly without detail and unreferenced. It's a no. If we could find a decent target, then let's use that. This is not a good idea right now. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 23:21, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
    The only decent target would probably be the main 2020 Summer Olympics page right now, but it currently is using some of the same unsourced number of athletes by NOCs and the calendar table. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
    This is why I do not want to get involved, don't have the time to deal with this: Special:Diff/1035146925. Maybe this should be the year that it should not get posted anytime soon -- neither the main article nor the chronological summary. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:55, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose This format is an egregious violation of MOS:COLLAPSE. Basically, "This is so important to be linked from the front page, but actually not that important, since we'll just hide everything."—Bagumba (talk) 02:23, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    I want to emphasize again that I am also opposed to the collapsible tables per MOS:COLLAPSE. I have been reverted on the 2016 page and another IP began to add it to the 2020 page soon after I moved it from the draftspace. I do not have the time or the patience this year to get into debates with this. If there are not enough editors who want it badly enough to get it onto ITN, so be it. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:28, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    Such is life on WP with sports: non-stop table churn justified by being collapsible.—Bagumba (talk) 03:37, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The title is an inherent absurd lie, enough to know when "2020" officially opens and closes, two easy blurbs. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment the article being suggested is a mess, but the 2020 Summer Olympics article is actually a decent article. Why not apply some common sense and add this one to ongoing? Joseph2302 (talk) 16:32, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    All day-by-day summaries of the previous Olympics have the same structure (see this, this, this, this and this). While quality is important and our criteria for posting usually require prose updates, this is a notable exception that was established long time ago (I also can't imagine how long the article would be if prose updates are added for more than 100 qualifying and final events taking place during a day.). Suppose a reader wants to find a detailed list of all final events today or the names of the medalists in those events. There's no other way to get this information if we don't link to a summary article of this format. I understand your concerns but sometimes we need to ignore all rules in order to serve our readers in the most practical way.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:04, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    That doesn't make it correct. And just because we posted chronologies before, doesn't mean we should do it again. Adding an ongoing link as 2020 Summer Olympics is also a clear violation of WP:EASTEREGG. But whatever, insist on using this article and they'll be nothing listed.... Joseph2302 (talk) 17:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    You've apparently missed my comment above in which I suggest posting Olympic summary rather than 2020 Summer Olympics or Summer Olympics.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:25, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    Apparently I have, that would be more sensible. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Stop staring at your navels and post something. The bikeshed is painted black. Rmhermen (talk) 21:21, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
    • The chronological summary article is egregiously undercited, and the main article is already in the blurb. Therefore, nothing can happen at this time.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:33, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Some navel starers will need to start editing and addressing concerns first.—Bagumba (talk) 12:06, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
    • You're an admin?? Wow. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 15:53, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Olympics opening ceremony[edit]

Article: 2020 Summer Olympics opening ceremony (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In Tokyo, the 2020 Summer Olympics are opened. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​The Summer Olympics open in Tokyo, Japan.
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: In half an hour; thought we could get the quality !votes in at this time for a swift posting. Will need tense updates. Kingsif (talk) 10:34, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

  • It was suggested that this be combined with the Brisbane 2032 announcement. 331dot (talk) 11:00, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
I also wonder if we should mention the delay due to the pandemic. 331dot (talk) 11:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Tube of Light This is an ITNR event, meaning support on the merits is not required. 331dot (talk) 11:02, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Wait a minute... I checked the Games article for quality instead of the opening ceremony and said that... Anyways, I think we need the "Ceremony key team" to be cleaned up as the title sounds weird and the source is given as a separate line. TubeOfLightTalk Less, Smile More 11:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Added that as alt. I'm sure some admin will add an appropriate ongoing link. Kingsif (talk) 12:44, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment some unsourced sentences in the Ceremony and Proceedings sections, plus all the Dignitaries in attendance. Once sourced, would support, and also support putting into ongoing (as it's the world's largest multi-sport event). Joseph2302 (talk) 11:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I thought the Olympics was added to the Ongoing line, due to so much (reader) interest, and it spanning the best part of three weeks too. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 12:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
    It is, but the opening and closing ceremonies are also blurb stories in their own right, per WP:ITN/R.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:11, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Dignitaries in attendance sourcing is inadequate.—Bagumba (talk) 16:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Mention Osaka lighting the cauldron? 87.241.189.205 (talk) 16:51, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Why? AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
It's at 2020 Summer Olympics opening ceremony#Ceremony, but you could have been bold and added it yourself if it wasn't already there. It's certainly not a prerequisite for ITN posting.—Bagumba (talk) 18:38, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Thought this meant mention it in the blurb. Yes, it makes sense for the article. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:42, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Or it's a Magic Eye trick.—Bagumba (talk) 18:57, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Cornell[edit]

Article: John Cornell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sydney Morning Herald; Cricinfo
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: pioneer of World Series Cricket concept. Abishe (talk) 09:47, 23 July 2021 (UTC) Abishe (talk) 10:30, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Strop deserves a better article, but it is fully referenced at least. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:05, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support – well-referenced; meets minimum ITN requirements. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:28, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good for RD JW 1961 Talk 11:19, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Sourced. Grimes2 (talk) 11:28, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • PostedBagumba (talk) 17:08, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

July 22[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

  • Asylum in Australia
    • An Afghan Tajik asylum seeker who has been held in immigration detention by Australia for eight years sues the Australian Government in the Federal Court. A former employee of the Islamic Republican government, the man fled an assassination attempt by the Taliban and argues that his family is still being targeted in Afghanistan and that his indefinite detention prevents him from organising their escape from the violence. The Government has requested the case be dismissed and denied they had any legal obligations towards Afghan citizens. (The Guardian)
  • Police in Madagascar arrest six individuals, including a foreign national, after months of investigation into a plot to kill President Andry Rajoelina. The Attorney General accuses those arrested of having "a plan for the elimination of the head of state". (Reuters) (Al Jazeera)
  • Tanzanian opposition leader Freeman Mbowe and 15 members of his Chadema party, who were arrested yesterday, are charged with terrorism, according to a statement from the party. Amnesty International condemns the charges and the United States said yesterday that Mbowe's arrest was "very concerning". (Al Jazeera)

Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: Peter Rehberg[edit]

Article: Peter Rehberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian; Pitchfork
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 11:13, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose Career section is essentially a resume in prose format. Any reactions to his work? Outside of the intro sentence stating that he composed "electronic audio works", the article gives me no idea of what his work sounded like or in what settings it was popular or utilized. That said, article is reffed and with an additional well-formed paragraph (or additional sentences in each current paragraph or something similar), this should be ready to go. SpencerT•C 21:51, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak support Still not exactly sure what the subject's music sounds like but meets minimum standards. SpencerT•C 04:53, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Sub-postmaster scandal[edit]

Consensus against posting this. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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Article: British Post Office scandal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​British sub-postmasters falsely accused of fraud win the right to be compensated 22 years later.
News source(s): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57928397
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: This is one of the biggest and wide-spread systemic cases of miscarriages of justice, certainly in British history since the Hillsborough tragedy. Whilst the story is confined to the UK alone I am fairly certain that this is an unusual case and likely to become a "textbook" example in the future around the world. The case spans areas of concern regarding businesses, a state-owned postal service, employment rights, worker-employer power relationship, criminal justice system, computer program issues, the quashing of criminal convictions, the right to appeal, liability, compensation quantum and the impact of criminal convictions on livelihoods. Abcmaxx (talk) 22:20, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Purely local news, completely insignificant to the rest of the world. Mlb96 (talk) 00:50, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Would support, as it looks to be major news in the UK, and the article has had a lot of work leading up to this point. However, I am very concerned that the relevant update (beginning with sentence "As of 22 July 2021, a total of 59 former sub-postmasters...") seems to have been lifted from this BBC article, and as such further copyright checks are needed before further consideration. A new blurb (assuming reader is unfamiliar with prior events) may also be in order. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 02:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Unless a substantial number of other Brits have been falsely accused of fraud and waited decades for sixteen hundred pounds of payback as well. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- this is an interesting news story, but I don't think it's appropriate for ITN. We did not (for example) post the first (or all) of the executions by the U.S. Federal Government in 2020, the first time in 18 years, but I believe that this was about the same level of notability -- Rockstone[Send me a message!] 07:07, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment At least nobody went postal to hit the WP:MINIMUMDEATHS fetish.—Bagumba (talk) 10:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Mlb96. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 13:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose I'm in the UK, and it's not even on the front page of BBC News here anymore. It is an unusual case, but it doesn't have the level of national and international of the Hillsborough disaster and scandal. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:27, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Lacks general significance. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 21:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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