Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Ursula von der Leyen
Ursula von der Leyen

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated) in UTC.
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Remember, we use UTC dates.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.
  • Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so.
  • The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page.

Please do not...[edit]

  • ... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  • ... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  • ... accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  • ... comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  • ... oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)

Suggestions[edit]

July 18[edit]

Armed conflict and attacks

International relations
Law and crime

(Posted) Kyoto Animation massacre[edit]

Article: Kyoto Animation arson attack (talk, history)
Blurb: A fire at an animation studio in Kyoto kills at least 33 people.
Alternative blurb: An arson attack at an animation studio in Kyoto kills at least 33 people.
News source(s): BBC, Guardian, Kyodo News Agency, AP

Nominator's comments: Suspected arson, with at least 13 deaths. feminist (talk) 07:20, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose Still needs a lot of work right now. HawkAussie (talk) 08:22, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
    • Support After those edits, I think it would be good enough. For me I prefer the alt-blurb compared to the first blurb. HawkAussie (talk) 12:10, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality. The article is barely above a stub and doesn't explain why the event is significant. Thryduulf (talk) 10:18, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Thryduulf although I think it's quite plain why a fire in Kyoto killing more than a score is significant. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 10:20, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
    Support just about enough now. This is global news right now, seldom that Japan is subject to such murder on a mass scale. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 11:26, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support As a major and unsual deliberate attack. I've added an alt-blurb clarifying that it was (according to police) deliberate arson. Smurrayinchester 11:38, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – The article is of solid quality right now, covers the important details, and this is certainly a major massacre on one of the most important animation studios. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:29, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Guardian says 33 deaths. Sca (talk) 13:34, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - It's now the worst mass-murder incident by an individual in post-war Japan... I've also added a second alt-blurb to highlight this - it's not a suspected arson attack anymore, it was a pre-meditated massacre. Now think arson attack is the best way to address this. Have edited the second alt blurb. Kettleonwater (talk) 13:41, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support There's a few odd problems on the references, but I knock that up to the rates of editing on this, but it is otherwise sourced well. --Masem (t) 13:52, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Alt I, but drop the word "suspected". Article is well updated. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 14:26, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment The word "massacre" in both the current article title, and altblurb II is questionable. There's a page move discussion at the target article, it is looking like this will end up at "arson attack" (reflecting news sources). --Masem (t) 14:29, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
    Exactly why I see the first alternative as the best option at the moment. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 14:32, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Have edited the second blurb. Kettleonwater (talk) 15:18, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
"Malicious" is not a good addition... I suggest just "An arson attack at an animation studio in Kyoto kills at least 33 people." Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 15:39, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Alt1 – Notable mortality. ("Malicious" in Alt2 seems inappropriate – arson, if proven, is by def. malicious.) – Sca (talk) 15:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment I've moved the article to the "arson attack" title per COMMONNAME and the talk page discussion. Blurb updated. Enterprisey (talk!) 16:25, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support altblurb now that the title has been changed. Spengouli (talk) 16:34, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted. 331dot (talk) 16:44, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

July 17[edit]

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology
  • Astronomers rule out the chances of ~30-meter asteroid 2006 QV89's impacting Earth in September 2019 by eliminating the possibility of its passing through an area where it would have to be if it were on an impacting orbit. Prior to this, the asteroid had been given a one-in-7,000 chance of impacting Earth. (phys.org)

(Posted) Ebola outbreak now an international health emergency[edit]

Article: 2018–19 Kivu Ebola epidemic (talk, history)
Blurb: ​The World Health Organization declares the Ebola outbreak in Congo an international public health emergency.
Alternative blurb: ​The World Health Organization declares the Ebola outbreak in Congo an international public health emergency after it spreads to the city of Goma.
News source(s): AP News, BBC News, The New York Times, NPR, The Guardian

Article updated

Nominator's comments: After a man infected with the virus made it to Goma, a city of 2 million with an international airport, the WHO made this declaration, only the fifth time such a pronouncement has been made by the organization. Qono (talk) 20:22, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Support ONGOING MSN12102001 (talk) 21:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment The supposed target article is not linked anywhere in the blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    Ad Orientem, Thanks for flagging. In my quick search, I didn't see the article specific to this outbreak. I've updated the link in the original blurb. Qono (talk) 22:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Provided altblurb. Article in good shape. Would NOT recomment ongoing because dealing with this is well beyond the scope of a few weeks (the intent of Ongoing), but WHO declaring this an emergency is definitely ITN worthy. --Masem (t) 22:30, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support blurb This is a significant and uncommon event. Quality wise the article is solid, being both lengthy and well referenced. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:46, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support blurb - significant. Article seems ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 22:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Marked as ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted. SpencerT•C 01:48, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Warren Cole[edit]

Article: Warren Cole (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [1]

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Won an Olympic gold medal at the 1968 Summer Olympics ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Support satis. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 17:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Short but adequate. Marking as "ready." -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted. Thryduulf (talk) 10:20, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) El Chapo sentenced[edit]

Solid consensus against posting again.
Sca (talk) 22:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Mexican druglord Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán is sentenced to life imprisonment by a US federal court.
News source(s): Guardian, etc

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Recurring chap in ITN, but this seems to be it (unless he manages to escape again). Brandmeistertalk 16:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - per sentence, quality of article and previous postings on progress of this case.BabbaQ (talk) 16:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose - We posted when he was found guilty (his conviction already carried a mandatory life in prison). See previous discussion for more details. El Chapo was already "scheduled" for life imprisonment when we posted in February 2019. Being found guilty was more important than this. MX () 17:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Previously posted the conviction with the likely life sentence back in Feb. --Masem (t) 17:18, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. Per above. MSN12102001 (talk) 19:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose The sentencing was proforma as it was mandated by law and understood as such when he was convicted, which we covered. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:10, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support per above Abajurrujaba (talk) 19:22, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. There was no chance the sentence was going to be anything else. We usually just post the conviction; in this case we also posted his capture as a fugitive. 331dot (talk) 19:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose No need to post this twice.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Andrea Camilleri[edit]

Article: Andrea Camilleri (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

 The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 12:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose for now. Referencing leaves much to be desired. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:03, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • oppose. Referencing needs a lot of work with the bibliography having problems. Capitalistroadster (talk) 01:50, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

July 16[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks
  • Syrian Civil War
    • Syrian government airstrikes targeting residential areas in the towns of Jisr al-Shughur, Khan Shaykhun, Maar Shoreen, Hantoteen and Ain Al Bardeh in Idlib province, kill at least nine civilians and injure 14 others. (AA)

Business and economy
  • Nate Sutton, associate general counsel of Amazon, in testimony before a committee of the U.S. Senate, denies that the company uses individual data to compete unfairly with smaller sellers using its third-party platform. (Seeking Alpha)

Law and crime

Politics and elections

RD: John Paul Stevens[edit]

Article: John Paul Stevens (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): CNN

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article looks fairly good but is seeing further updates. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Support (sadly). Article in good shape. Davey2116 (talk) 01:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now - not a bad article but there are several paragraphs with no references. Pawnkingthree (talk) 01:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    • Some of the paragraphs are quotes from Supreme Court decisions -- the referencing is in the text for those. The paragraph on "Bush v. Gore", for example, might need a source for "scathing dissent", but the blockquote is cited. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. Some significant gaps in referencing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose sourcing is poor. Too many sourcing missing in " Judicial philosophy" which absolutely needs to be sourced otherwise it is BLP/OR violations. --Masem (t) 02:52, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose not ready. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 10:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support pbp 18:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • What's your rationale?-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • There are literally whole paragraphs unreferenced in there. It's a BLP violation. These kind of supports should be summarily ignored as it's clear that no attention to quality has been paid. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 18:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    • Quality is worth accounting for, but the supports show that these users support the blurb, rather than think it is not notable or ITN worthy. Master of Time (talk) 19:16, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
      • What makes you think that? No blurb has been proposed, and neither supporter has mentioned a blurb. And in any case, it's clearly not about the individual being "not notable or ITN worthy", just read the words in RD template being used here. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 19:30, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
        • @The Rambling Man: I got as much right to vote support as you do to vote oppose. It is not necessary that I conform to your rationale for voting. Nor is it necessarily for you to continually badger and hound people who disagree with you, as you perennially do on this and other boards. Finally, I think you throw around the term "BLP violation" too liberally. And, @Pawnkingthree:, my rationale is, "I believe this is notable enough to be on the main page, regardless of the quality of the article". pbp 22:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
          • Yes, you can !vote whatever way you like, but this isn't the first time you've voted support for an RD whose quality is astonishingly poor and a BLP violation. Your rational is irrelevant, all RDs are considered notable enough for inclusion in the RD section of the ITN template, all we consider for such nominations is the quality. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 05:08, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
            • Shut up, TRM. I will not be badgered by you. You may think you can bully others around on this project, but not me. pbp 15:06, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
              • Nice personal attack. Please read the notes in the RD template which clearly state: the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. If you need any more assistance with this, I'm happy to help. Cheers! The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 17:32, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Orange tagged as requiring more citation. Thryduulf (talk) 10:22, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

RD: Johnny Clegg[edit]

Article: Johnny Clegg (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): eNCA, BusinessDay

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

 Lefcentreright (talk) 18:36, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose too much unreferenced material. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 18:46, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose - much work needed.BabbaQ (talk) 11:09, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - This has been pretty well cleaned up at this point. -Kudzu1 (talk) 05:31, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The discography remains entirely unsourced. Thryduulf (talk) 10:24, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Ursula von der Leyen elected President of the European Commission[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Ursula von der Leyen (talk, history)
Blurb: Ursula von der Leyen (pictured) is elected President of the European Commission, as the first female president
News source(s): [2], AP, BBC, Guardian, AFP, dpa

Article updated

 Ana Stelline (talk) 17:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Support I opposed the "nomination" of her for president, but because I only vote on real news. It's real now. And article is almost pristine, bar one cn. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - she has been voted in now. Time to post.BabbaQ (talk) 18:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support with the only nit being the description of the vote majority in the lede and the appropriate section - one suggested "narrow" the other suggested "large". But that's trivial fixing. Also the right time as the vote makes it as official as possible. (Also will argue this should be ITNR elsewhere). --Masem (t) 18:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 18:49, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. Per above MSN12102001 (talk) 19:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – The No. 1 story today. A separate article on the EU Commission presidential election – with all its political maneuvering – might have been preferable, but the target article is decent. – Sca (talk) 19:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

plus Posted Feel free to add the photo. --Tone 19:13, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Can we add that she is the first woman elected President of the European Commission? Thanks,

-TenorTwelve (talk) 23:59, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Post-posting comment (and I'll copy this to MP talk) The article for the EC President uses the term "appoint" throughout regarding the selection of a new president. Not "elect". This is for good reason, as these are not "elections" in layman's terms, because they are not popular plebicites. Please change "elected" to "appointed".130.233.3.189 (talk) 07:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    Actually, three of the sources above use "elected" and three use "confirmed"; none use "appointed". The relevant Art. 17.7 of the Treaty of the European Union says [..] the European Council [...] shall propose to the European Parliament a candidate for President of the Commission. This candidate shall be elected by the European Parliament by a majority of its component members. [...] (emphasis added). So the term "elected" is actually correct based on the law that governs said process. Regards SoWhy 07:58, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

July 15[edit]

Law and crime
  • A police raid on a neo-Nazi group in northern Italy results in the arrest of three people. Sophisticated weaponry, including a Matra Super 530F air-to-air missile, were seized during the operation. (BBC)

(Posted) RD: Werner Müller (politician)[edit]

Article: Werner Müller (politician) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Spiegel

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German manager of energy companies, minister of economics 1998–2002, Manager of the Year in 2008. Had one line of an article, it's a bit better now. Expansion welcome, some sources have great detail. Not my normal topic, please check for overly German terms. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

  • CommentGerda, are the '[de]' links to German Wiki articles permitted (or useful) on Eng.-lang. Wiki? – Sca (talk) 14:14, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    Both permitted and useful, - an invitation to write a translation, and a support of a certain notability, - readers with no knowledge of German can safely ignore them. We have the template {{ill}} for some reasons. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
OK. And since most educated Germans know at least some English, I guess we can assume that a good number of them also read the Eng.-lang. Wiki. Tschüß!Sca (talk) 22:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
In his case, however, they are still better off with the German version. I didn't copy all, because then a single unsourced fact may be in the way of appearing here. Read the speech by Horst Köhler if you can. Going to use it more in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:23, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support – Looks presentable. Sca (talk) 22:22, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted. Thryduulf (talk) 10:28, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Karl Shiels[edit]

Article: Karl Shiels (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): SUN

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with everything sourced. Irish actor DBigXray 05:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Support looks good to go --DannyS712 (talk) 11:13, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted after moving an unsourced sentence to the talk page. Thryduulf (talk) 10:31, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Thryduulf, can someone please post the credits.--DBigXray 18:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

(Closed) MaryEllen Elia resigns[edit]

SNOW close. No chance. – Ammarpad (talk) 23:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: MaryEllen Elia (talk, history)
Blurb: ​New York State Education commissioner MaryEllen Elia resigns over private school standards of education controversy.
Alternative blurb: ​New York State education controversy results in resignation of MaryEllen Elia, State Commissioner of Education.
News source(s): New York Post, Wall Street Journal
Nominator's comments: This is an important event, however the article needs updating, sounds a little biased, and the story may be too New York centric. Puzzledvegetable
  • Oppose sub-local politics. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 21:40, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm puzzled about the impetus for this nom., but since I've been vegetating all afternoon my little gray cells may be sluggish. – Sca (talk) 22:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
As an individual event, I would agree. However, seen as part of the larger controversy, I believe this event is notable enough. Check out this link to New York Education Yeshiva Education Controversy on Google. I'm not saying that everything that comes up is a reliable source, but this should give you an idea of the extent of the coverage. --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 23:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Care to explain it to the rest of us? The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 23:03, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're being rhetorical, but here goes: An advocacy group called YAFFED filed a claim that private schools in New York, particularly Jewish Ultra Orthodox schools, were not teaching the "substantially equivalent education" that is required of private schools. In response, Elia issued a list of guidelines to address the issues. The guidelines were deemed inappropriate, and many community leaders called them unfair. A joint Jewish and Catholic effort resulted in the guidelines being suspended in State Court. And now, in response, MaryEllen Elia has resigned. --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 23:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Apart from the lack of notability as an individual event, there is not even an article about the larger controversy.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:06, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose good faith nom, but there is not the slightest chance of this gaining consensus to post. We don't do local politics at ITN. I would encourage the OP to withdraw the nomination before it starts snowing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:37, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

July 14[edit]

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Science and technology

Sports

RD: Pernell Whitaker[edit]

Article: Pernell Whitaker (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Independent, The Guardian, Daily Mirror

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Boxing "legend". Word Champion. Olympic Champion. Fighter of the Year. Notable boxer. The article has several ref issues, but can be fixed. --SirEdimon (talk) 15:26, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose whole paragraphs without reference. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose - not even close.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Referencing has been improved a bit since the previous !votes but there are still multiple paragraphs without sources. Thryduulf (talk) 10:33, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) 2019 Cricket World Cup[edit]

Article: 2019 Cricket World Cup Final (talk, history)
Blurb: ​In cricket, England defeat New Zealand in the final of the 2019 Cricket World Cup.
Alternative blurb: ​The Cricket World Cup concludes with England defeating New Zealand in the final

Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

Nominator's comments: Article still needs to be fleshed out, but afterwards should be good to go. King of ♠ 01:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Too short blurb. The runs were tied, and the super over was also tied. England won by default. That is too significant to ignore. Pretty sure it never occurred in any other World Cup final. 27.97.210.129 (talk) 07:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
How about In cricket, England defeat New Zealand in the final of the 2019 Cricket World Cup, following an unprecedented "super over" tie-break. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
"England won by default"? No, they won by having the greater number of boundaries across the entire game. It's a controversial rule. But yes, this has never occurred before. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:51, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
The blurb is fine and in line with house style. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:53, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
As a general rule, we avoid specifying scorelines in ITN blurbs. The tie-break process works the same way - it's a complex issue best left to the article to explain. Modest Genius talk 11:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support - With prose and cited - Sherenk1 (talk) 10:11, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support but only once that dubious image being used under "fair use" is removed. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support, looks ready to go. I would bold 2019 Cricket World Cup instead / as well as the article on the final, as it has a lot of excellent prose on the whole tournament. Alt blurb added. Unfortunately we don't have a good image of Kane Williamson (player of the tournament) to use. Modest Genius talk 11:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
There are good pics of MOTM Ben Stokes though. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
The only two that show Stokes' face are File:BEN STOKES (11704837023) (cropped).jpg (from 2014) and File:Ben Stokes, 2013 (cropped further).jpg (from 2013). Both are so old that he's barely recognisable as the same person. Modest Genius talk 12:03, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Jimbo would like that, too. – Sca (talk) 20:51, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Naturally S4C were showing "Dechrau Canu Dechrau Canmol - Hanes y Diwygiad" instead. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • ITN defers to the article, which is at England cricket team. That was the subject of a detailed move discussion in March 2019. An IP user added '& Wales' to the lead just this morning without discussion, so I've reverted. Modest Genius talk 12:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment it's been ready a while now. What's delaying this? The Rambling Man (talk) 13:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support, with Alt blurb if possible. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support ITN/R and sufficient quality - let's go.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support except with "England devastating New Zealand" rather than just plain ol' "defeating". ;-) --WaltCip (talk) 14:08, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Any of the blurbs.--SirEdimon (talk) 14:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Would one expect unanimous support to lead to faster posting? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Pinging Stephen and Espresso Addict in case they missed it. They are always around.--SirEdimon (talk) 15:54, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Bad referenced MSN12102001 (talk) 17:12, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
    Where? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:26, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted. Black Kite (talk) 17:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Can it be rewritten as "England won the World Cup" instead of the current "England defeat New Zealand" which is technically incorrect as the match is considered to be a tie in record books? It's also worth mentioning the rule that gave England the title as that has been the talking point on news and social media for the past three days. 59.95.68.93 (talk) 17:55, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    No, England defeated NZ on boundary count. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 17:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    See List of tied matches and England-New Zealand ODI list. The Super Over article also correctly says that "A match which goes to a Super Over is officially declared a "tie"" 59.95.68.93 (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
    You would be better raising this instead at Talk:2019 Cricket World Cup Final, not here. But your first link leads to this page which says: "Super over ended in a tie, England won the match on the boundary count back rule." Martinevans123 (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Wimbledon[edit]

Proposed image
Articles: 2019 Wimbledon Championships – Women's Singles (talk, history) and 2019 Wimbledon Championships – Men's Singles (talk, history)
Blurb: ​In tennis, the 2019 Wimbledon Championships concludes, with Simona Halep defeating Serena Williams in the Women's Singles and Novak Djokovic (pictured) defeating Roger Federer in the Men's Singles, completing the longest Wimbledon final ever.

Article updated

One or both nominated events are listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

Nominator's comments: Haven't worked on the articles, but a read shows they have prose coverage including finals. Kingsif (talk) 00:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment on images I think we could make a side-by-side of Halep and Djokovic from commons files for posting, (Can't recall if the ITN template can support separate images), as I don't see a way to distinguish between whether either should get image priority (both have won multiple times before, so its not like a first major win for either). --Masem (t) 00:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose No real prose in either target article. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Both bold articles have no prose outside the leads and require substantial expansion. If they do get improved, drop the 'longest final ever' bit from the blurb. Modest Genius talk 11:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. MSN12102001 (talk) 11:59, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Winners of large sports championships are typically featured, especially international ones. mike_gigs (talk) 13:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Sure it's significant, but both articles has very little prose at all. I may add some later on, but I'm not sure it'll be enough to have this event posted. INeedSupport :V 18:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose Neither article is postable as of my viewing. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support If the main link becomes the main article, i.e. 2019 Wimbledon Championships - the other two can be left in (if not bolded); in any case, such a major sporting event should not go unnoticed. 107.190.33.254 (talk) 04:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    • That article also has no prose outside the lead, and an orange-level referencing tag, so doesn't meet the criteria. Modest Genius talk 10:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
      • The {{refimprove}} is a borderline case - the lead is relatively well-referenced (fixed that for you); the rest of the article (i.e. results) can very easily be sourced to the official website (which is given as an external link). I personally don't think "there's little prose" is sufficient to exclude such a major sport event, more so now that I have fixed (?) the referencing issues. 107.190.33.254 (talk) 14:20, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
        • We always, at barest minimum, expect a reasonably concise but complete recap of the final match. (all 5 sets in this case). Just a short lede and a bunch of tables amounts to WP:NOT#STATS. --Masem (t) 14:22, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support we have this discussion every time there's a similar nomination and my position hasn't changed. In articles like these, what matters are 1) who won and 2) what the score was, and as long as both are in the article it's good enough. Banedon (talk) 12:35, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    And community consensus hasn't changed. A decent update doesn't just mean filling in the infobox. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:58, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    It seems there's an entire new article for 2019 Wimbledon Championships – Men's singles final, but not one for 2019 Wimbledon Championships – Women's singles final? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:47, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    Yes, and ironically that article itself barely covers the longest men's single final in history and simply sums it up in about two sentences... The Rambling Man (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. Article quality not good enough and not enough prose on the finals themselves. Its not difficult to do, see the excellently written annual articles on the Boat Race for how it could be done, usually written on the very day of the race.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    !!!!CANOE KLAXON!!!!! Shucks, I'd like to dedicate this to my cat, my therapist, my therapist's therapist, my theremin and my terrapin. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:36, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    We need "TRM's Law" as a corollary to Godwin's Law, that an ITN discussion ends when The Boat Race is mentioned. --Masem (t) 17:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
    Only once the superior quality of my canoe race nominations is mentioned. Then it's good to close it down. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:05, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Don't try to snooker us into that. – Sca (talk) 21:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
No snookers required, my track record speaks for itself. The Rambling Man (REJOICE!) 21:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Nice legs. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

2019 Southeast Asia floods[edit]

Article: 2019 Southeast Asia floods (talk, history)
Blurb: Monsoonal floods kill at least 130 people across Bangladesh, China, India, and Nepal.
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian, CNN, AP, AFP

Nominator's comments: Likely overshadowed by the far-less significant Hurricane Barry, there has been widespread loss of life from monsoonal floods in Asia. Sadly a typical event for the region, but notability should be sufficient especially with a blurb drought. Presently continuing to expand the article, but nominating to get the ball rolling. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 23:16, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose at this point. This is monsoon season in SE Asia, and there's always loss of life. 60-some people at this point over that many countries is actually a small number. --Masem (t) 23:49, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
    • Changing to Weak support and even may suggest this better as an ongoing. BBC has deaths at 130 and rising (67 in Nepal alone), and rain's still falling. Still a small number based on total population but I don't think we can call that ignoreable anymore. --Masem (t) 21:30, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support on notability, oppose on quality. Hrodvarsson (talk) 02:40, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support going to trust the expert. Banedon (talk) 12:36, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment – Significant mortality – AFP says at least 180 – but article is still too sketchy for Main Page promo at this point. – Sca (talk) 13:52, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

RD: Hussain Muhammad Ershad[edit]

Article: Hussain Muhammad Ershad (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Former Bangladesh president Hussain Muhammad Ershad dies at 89.

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: I think the former leader of the 8th largest country in the world probably deserves his own blurb. 2607:FB90:245C:CDD3:6D04:EDE4:D49D:9907 (talk) 11:53, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

  • RD only – Ershad, 89, "died in hospital after being on life support for 10 days." – Sca (talk) 14:04, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality, the article still has some referencing and style issues. Support RD once they're fixed. Spengouli (talk) 16:08, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb, oppose RD on quality, miles away right now. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:02, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  • RD only. I don't feel he meets the typical criteria for a blurb; the death itself being an event(as noted by Sca, this is not) or the individual being a world transformative leader or otherwise at the tip-top of their field. 331dot (talk) 18:38, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

July 13[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents
Politics and elections
  • U.S. Vice President Mike Pence says the conditions under which asylum seekers are being held in facilities along the U.S. border with Mexico are unacceptable, after visiting two federal detention centers in Texas, remaining the highest-ranking member of the Trump administration to say so. He calls upon the U.S. Congress to act. (CNN)
Sports

(Posted) RD: Paolo Sardi[edit]

Article: Paolo Sardi (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Catholic News Agency, Zenit

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Cardinal of the Catholic Church, former patron of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. Relatively short article, but fully referenced. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 15:25, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Asasey Hotel attack[edit]

Article: Asasey Hotel attack (talk, history)
Blurb: ​A hotel is attacked in Kismayo, Somalia, killing at least 26 people including journalist Hodan Nalayeh.
Alternative blurb: ​Five al-Shabaab militants attack a hotel in Kismayo, Jubaland in Somalia, killing 26 people, including several government figures.
News source(s): BBC, Guardian, AP

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Stub, needs lots of expansion before it's good to go. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:01, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Support on significance, oppose on length at the moment. I will try to find the time to expand this later, if it hasn't already been worked on. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:03, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose no lasting impact, sadly not an unusual event in this part of the world. 90.128.166.72 (talk) 17:13, 13 July 2019 (UTC) 90.128.166.72 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Incumbents and candidates died, will impact elections. Though I suppose political events are even less unusual over there. A celebrity English Wikipedia kind of knows died, which is a bit strange. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:13, July 13, 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment - Signficant event, but the article is only a few lines.--SirEdimon (talk) 18:42, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
I've lengthened it. Could still be longer. Not too long, of course. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:05, July 13, 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Alt when up to snuff. "At least" is pessimistic, and Nalayeh wasn't technically a journalist. Gives a sense of regional political impact. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:30, July 13, 2019 (UTC)
  • Support alt pending expansion: Yes, this kind of event is expected in the country - but that usually means it doesn't hit the news cycle in the West, which this one has done. Anything that seems like a political kind of attack is well notable, you could say even more so in a country with little grip on politics. Article needs some expanding though. Kingsif (talk) 08:28, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Routine bit of violence, sadly. Sandstein 10:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment – Possibly significant enough even for such a strife-ridden place, but article at 140 words is basically a stub. Could be readily expanded with info from RS links added above. – Sca (talk) 14:20, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I've figured out how to copy on my gadget (some of the time), but pasting is still a pipe dream. Flipping between tabs is sometimes possible, but this onscreen keyboard is still ridiculously slow. Edit conflicting after such tedium as it might take would destroy me (it's happened twice before). So, anyone else interested, don't wait for me! I'm miserably semiretired. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:36, July 15, 2019 (UTC)
@InedibleHulk: That's why I use laptop when editing, much less headache, despite being old-fashioned. Brandmeistertalk 07:34, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
My laptop is getting older, with fan, battery and flicker problems (and two stripped screws in the metal case). During the summer, humidity, lightning and power fluctuations make me paranoid about it dying. Just need to remember to grab a USB keyboard for this newfangled doodad, which I don't think about in the real world, which is where I still shop (with physical cash, even). InedibleHulk (talk) 20:54, July 16, 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) Spektr-RG[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Spektr-RG (talk, history)
Blurb: Spektr-RG (pictured), a Russian-German high-energy space telescope, is launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome.
Alternative blurb: Spektr-RG (pictured), a Russian-German high-energy space telescope, is launched.
News source(s): BBC, The Hindu, NASA.

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Needs a few citations; nominating for more attention. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:56, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Support Added refs to Science and NASA Space Flight regarding the instruments and construction. Cleaned up the English. Nice picture.130.233.3.189 (talk) 08:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. A moderately high-profile space telescope working at wavelengths that haven't been explored since ROSAT in the 1990s. The article is at the bare minimum length, a lot more could be said, but does just about clear that threshold. Referencing is adequate. I added a couple of links to the blurb. Modest Genius talk 11:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support It's generally a good thing to feature articles about science and technology. The article looks good, too. --Puzzledvegetable|💬|📧|📜 14:04, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support Seems notable to me, and the article is adequate. Davey2116 (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 01:04, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Isaac Lesiba Maphotho[edit]

Article: Isaac Lesiba Maphotho (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): EWN

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

 Lefcentreright (talk) 16:45, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

July 12[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

(new) RD: Sadie Roberts-Joseph[edit]

Article: Sadie Roberts-Joseph (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): CNN, TIME

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is short but seems comprehensive. Not many details have been released yet about her death, but it might blow up to be a big story worthy of a blurb when they are/postmortem results area vailable (but that's crystal so I'm only nominating for RD currently). Although she was found dead on the 12th all the sources seem to be at most a day old. Thryduulf (talk) 12:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment. New article. Currently around 200 words with the career bundled into the lead, which is a stub in my opinion. Espresso Addict (talk) 13:34, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose stub. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose A lot of improvements needed.BabbaQ (talk) 00:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

RD: Fernando J. Corbató[edit]

Article: Fernando J. Corbató (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NYTimes

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Computer scientist credited with the concept of the password. Not quite there in terms of sourcing but not far off. Masem (t) 18:34, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Hodan Nalayeh[edit]

Article: Hodan Nalayeh (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): CBC

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:F596:81F3:9E43:707 (talk) 22:56, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

July 11[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime
  • British right-wing activist Tommy Robinson is sentenced to nine months in prison for contempt of court — minus time served equals about another 10 weeks in prison. Supporters attacked police and journalists following the court proceedings. Police say no new arrests were made. (BBC)
  • American R&B singer R. Kelly is arrested in Chicago on federal sex crime charges. (NBC News)

Science and technology

References[edit]

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