Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS. Archives of past nominations can be found here.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

A blurb is a one sentence summary of the news story. An alternate suggestion for the blurb is called an altblurb, and any more suggestions get labelled alt1, alt2, etc. A blurb needs at least one target article, highlighted in bold; reviewers check the quality of that article and whether it is updated, and whether reliable sources demonstrate the significance of the event. Other articles can also be linked. The Ongoing line is for regularly updated articles which cover events that remain in the news over a longer period of time. RD stands for the "recent deaths" line, and can include any living thing whose death was recently announced. In some cases, recent deaths may need additional explanation as provided by a blurb; this is decided by consensus.

SpaceX Crew-3 launch Kosmos 1408 is destroyed by a Russian anti-satellite weapon, producing space debris. We Continue the Change, led by Kiril Petkov and Asen Vasilev, wins the most seats in the Bulgarian general election. SpaceX's Crew-3 mission (launch pictured) takes four astronauts to the International Space Station. Former South African president F. W. de Klerk, who negotiated the end of apartheid with Nelson Mandela, dies at the age of 85. Ongoing: Belarus–European Union border crisis COVID-19 pandemic Recent deaths: Young Dolph Julio Lugo Ed Bullins Bertie Auld Seán FitzPatrick Art Stewart view — page history — related changes — edit

How to nominate an item In order to suggest a candidate: Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated. Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so. Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense. Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting. Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page. There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN. Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template. Headers Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active. Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header. Voicing an opinion on an item Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated. Please do not... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive. accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN. comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s). oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. The criteria can be discussed at the relevant talk page.

November 20

Portal:Current events/2021 November 20
November 20, 2021 (2021-11-20) (Saturday)

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November 19

Portal:Current events/2021 November 19

November 19, 2021 (2021-11-19) (Friday) Disasters and accidents November 2021 Pacific Northwest floods The provincial government of British Columbia, Canada declares a state of emergency in response to ongoing risks from floods and mudslides. Effective immediately under December 1, citizens in affected regions, including the Lower Mainland and Vancouver Island, are limited to 30 litres of diesel and gasoline purchased at fuel stations. Vehicles used for essential services, such as emergency response, commercial transport, and public transit, are exempt from this order and granted unlimited access to cardlock gas stations ordinarily used by the commercial trucking industry. Price gouging at retail gas stations and the resale of fuel is prohibited. Restrictions on non-essential travel along damaged highways are also set in place. (Global News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Austrian chancellor Alexander Schallenberg announces a full nationwide lockdown for the entire population starting on November 22, amid a surge in new COVID-19 cases that has overwhelmed hospitals. Schallenberg also announces that COVID-19 vaccinations will become mandatory as of February 1, 2022. (The Independent) Austria reports a record for the second consecutive day of 15,809 new cases of COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 1,027,274. (Kronen Zeitung) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany The Southern German state of Bavaria cancels all Christmas markets and imposes a lockdown in all districts that have a seven-day incidence rate of over 1,000 per 100,000 people amid a substantial increase in the number of new COVID-19 cases. However, schools and kindergartens will continue to remain open. (Deutsche Welle) COVID-19 pandemic in Hungary Hungary reports a record 11,289 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 998,488. (Budapest Business Journal) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record for the third consecutive day of 1,254 deaths from COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 261,589. (Interfax) COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in Canada, COVID-19 vaccination in Canada Health Canada approves the usage of the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for children between the ages of 5 and 11 years. (Global News) COVID-19 pandemic in Grenada Argentina officially announces that it will donate 11,000 doses of the Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to Grenada. (Memo) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia COVID-19 pandemic in Victoria Restrictions are further eased for fully vaccinated Victorians as 90% of adults are now fully vaccinated. Mask wearing is still required in some indoor spaces and limits remain on daily visitor numbers to care facilities. Additionally, unvaccinated people continue to be banned from entering all non-essential businesses and also from employment in many industries. (The Guardian) International relations Palestine–United Kingdom relations The United Kingdom outlaws Hamas, the Palestinian militant group which serves as the ruling party of the Gaza Strip, and declares the party as a terrorist group. Previously, only the party's armed wing was outlawed. (Reuters) Law and crime Kenosha unrest shooting Kyle Rittenhouse, an 18-year-old who said that he was acting in self defense when he shot three people during the Kenosha unrest in Wisconsin, United States, in August 2020, is found not guilty on all counts. (NPR) Politics and elections Politics of Iraq Iraqi Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr announces that he is dissolving the Promised Day Brigade, the armed faction loyal to him. Yesterday, al-Sadr said that non-governmental armed militias should hand in their weapons. (Reuters) Vice Presidency of Kamala Harris While Joe Biden undergoes medical treatment, Kamala Harris gains presidential power for a short period of time, making her the first female acting president in the United States. (Forbes)

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Disappearance of Peng Shuai

Article: Peng Shuai (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Chinese tennis player Peng Shuai disappears after accusing a former Chinese Vice Premier of sexual assault. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Blythwood (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Seems to be a forced disappearance. This is a bit unusual, but has been a major news story. Disappearance section seems solid but the rest of the article on her career is less well sourced. The person has disappeared without a trace, so while it cannot be verified that this person person has died or been imprisoned, her disappearance is in itself the notable event. I wonder if this could be treated as something like the equivalent of a recent death. Blythwood (talk) 22:39, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support - Article is in good condition and the news is prominent, exceptional, and of great public interest around the world. Jehochman ^Talk 22:45, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose and Wait - Article appear in news, but headlines on CBC, CNN, BBC are still focused on Rittenhouse Trial for now, although this may change. Otherwise, the blurb should describe whats happening now (the reactions), that she has not been publicly heard is not ITN as that is a few days old. 99.247.176.90 (talk) 23:06, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - I fail to see how this is any more worthy of ITN than the Rittenhouse trial, which was also not worthy of ITN. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 23:10, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  Please don't oppose because you think another nomination should be posted and you don't think this one is as worthy. Judge nomination on its own merit. The two are about completely different things. -- KTC (talk) 23:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  I don't think either are worthy of being posted. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 01:20, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support per Jehochman. However I'm not quite sure about the term "disappears" here, even if I personally think the Chinese state did exactly that. -- KTC (talk) 23:16, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support per Jehochman. -- Tavix ^(talk) 23:20, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support this is far more notable than "another white American kills black Americans" and regardless of the fact that headlines are currently obsessing over the US proclivity to allow kids to routinely assassinate people without any kind of criminal conviction, Peng's disappearance is genuinely newsworthy and encyclopedic. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 23:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  Not that it matters to this nomination, but Rittenhouse's victims were white. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:04, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

  *cough cough* Rittenhouse's victims were white *cough cough* – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

  Who said he wasn't talking about Young Dolph's routine assassin? We don't know he wasn't white. We don't know if he had other black American victims. Memphis is all about unsolved mysteries! AGF. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality The article needs a lot of work, as there are multiple sections with no inline citations.Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:42, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support While this might be unduly implicative of the Chinese state being connected, if RSs are making that connection this definitely belongs. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality I would support this if the article has some ref work done. There's sections that are unsourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:34, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose this is newsworthy for sure but blurbing that someone "disappeared" after making an accusation seems like a WP:BLPCRIME issue to me. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:39, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

• Completely agree it's an awkward thing to summarise in a way that fits BLP while keeping it clear why the event is notable, I'd welcome suggestions for alternative phrasing. I realise this is a fairly limited action, but for that reason I deliberately didn't link to the person she accused in the proposed blurb. Blythwood (talk) 01:57, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose as per LaserLegs, there's something wrong about posting speculation that someone disappeared straight after they made accusations. With little reliable information, this seems like a BLP issue to post it. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:47, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Far too speculative, with overtones of anti-China sentiment, and with too many unknowns. Needs far more clarification before it is posted. And a guarantee that ITN will publish a full We Were Wrong! statement and retraction on the Main page when it is found out she has just eloped with her boyfriend or girlfriend, as the case may be. HiLo48 (talk) 01:55, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Clearly if China "disappeared" her, that would be a story, but this appears to be Western nations making a demand of China and there's no hard evidence she has been killed or imprisoned or the like. We don't post this type of speculative stories. --Masem (t) 02:16, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Per wide coverage in RSes. Normchou ^💬 03:22, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Kyle Rittenhouse verdict

3-9, consensus will not develop to post at this time. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 21:27, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Articles: Kenosha unrest shooting (talk · history · tag) and Shooting of Jacob Blake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​After shooting three people and killing two amidst protests surrounding the Shooting of Jacob Blake, Kyle Rittenhouse is found not guilty on all charges. (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Andise1 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Ending to a major news story/court case. Andise1 (talk) 18:46, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support article is comprehensive, updated, and well-referenced. A few WP:PROSELINE-issues, but not enough to downgrade the quality too much. Topic has been, and is being covered extensively by quality, reliable news sources in a way that would indicate this is a significant story. Checks all of the boxes for me. --Jayron32 18:55, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose to international notability. It won’t be listed on 2021 per previous discussions of it not having international notability. Elijahandskip (talk) 19:02, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  Elijahandskip, #Please do not... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:04, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  (edit conflict):*See the instructions above "Please do not...oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." "International notability" is not a criteria for posting at ITN, nor has it ever been. --Jayron32 19:05, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Well my direct opinion is that it is not notable. My reasoning is the discussion that already took place on the 2021 talk page. I also have previous discussions months ago where things highly notable to one country aren’t included. Elijahandskip (talk) 19:11, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• This is not a discussion of the page 2021. The criteria established for other parts of Wikipedia don't apply here. If you wish to change the criteria used for the ITN box, then start a discussion at WT:ITN. Votes without valid rationales are given little weight. It's fine if you have a useful rationale, but merely "I don't think it's notable enough" does not provide any useful guidance to admins when deciding consensus. I mean, you're allowed to say any silly thing you want, I suppose, but you can't expect anyone to take you seriously if it isn't valid. --Jayron32 19:18, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Well since you don’t like my reasoning, just let me say “no”. People have supported ITN’s in the past without giving a reason, so my “Oppose” in this case will not have a reason. Elijahandskip (talk) 19:22, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

As I said, it's a free world. People do nonsensical things all of the time. --Jayron32 19:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Yep, I couldn’t agree more. In reality, my oppose on this comes more to combat American Wikipedia vs English Wikipedia. There is a essay on Wikipedia that I recently read that has that meaning. Not everything that happens in America is notable for Wikipedia/2021/ITN/Portal Current Events, etc….Elijahandskip (talk) 19:34, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose (at least on news of just the verdict). It was a highly watched case in the U.S., but it was clear early on to many legal experts that are crying foul on judicial behavior. It is very very likely to see an appeal and so this is not the end. This is not like the result from the very public George Floyd protests (which we posted and had ongoing about those, and the verdict). That said, there had been concerns there may be rioting following an acquittal , and while I'm not seeing any immediate news on that, a major riot (akin to the LA riots after King's verdict) would likely be the newsworthy factor here. --Masem (t) 19:05, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  There literally cannot be any appeal of a not guilty verdict. This is a core principle of how double jeopardy is handled in American jurisprudence. A not guilty jury verdict is basically always final. See [1]. There are some exceedingly rare exceptions to this, but none of them would apply in this case. An ordinary jury verdict of "not guilty" like this one (even in a controversial trial) is treated as basically sacrosanct, and there can be no appeals by the government. --Jayron32 19:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  Except for the calls for a mistrial that are being entered now. I know there's complexities with double jeopardy there, but that's still on the books and that itself can be a legal process. --Masem (t) 19:15, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  Um, what? There were calls for a mistrial by Rittenhouse's defense team prior to the jury verdict coming back. Now that the verdict is in their client's favor, I doubt highly they will press forward with these requests. Indeed, articles such as this one note "The verdict also meant that Judge Bruce Schroeder did not have to rule on the defense's motions for a mistrial." --Jayron32 19:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose as above. If we had to have an American court psychodrama today, the better option from a world-historical perspective would probably be the acquittal of the purported killers of Malcolm X. —Brigade Piron (talk) 19:20, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose AGF, but this is such a small story in the grand scheme. GreatCaesarsGhost 19:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Wait. It is too early to tell what impact this will have. It could be a Rodney King-like result where acquittal of the accused leads to broad social unrest, or it could pass with a shrug. I expect that we will know within 24 hours. BD2412 T 19:30, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose and close US-centric nomination, not important enough for ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:45, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose and renominate once the riots get into full swing. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:49, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. Far from blurb-worthy, lack of deep international coverage and interest. U.S-centric. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:58, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Very US centric. It's probably not even the most important news in the US right now, let alone the world. I agree with Piron above that the clearing of Malcom X's killers is more noteworthy in the grand scheme. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 20:32, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

It is the most important US news event ongoing right now. Every major US news outlet is covering the story and many have been broadcasting portions of the trial for the past several days.XavierGreen (talk) 20:48, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support certainty an extremely notable event.XavierGreen (talk) 20:48, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Actually not even sure this is going to be more than a couple days' news in the US. —valereee (talk) 20:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Trial of a decade, widely reported across the world. Even my local news station in Russia reported on the topic. The only reason this is leaning oppose is because the verdict contradicts the biases of the local editors. 5.44.170.26 (talk) 21:16, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  Feels like there's a "Trial of the Decade" going on every other year lately... DarkSide830 (talk) 21:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

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RD: Edgardo Labella

Article: Edgardo Labella (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
• Created by Emperork (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jollibinay (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Mayor of Cebu City. Article looks decent but could warrant some improvements ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 15:59, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest

Article: 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India announces the repeal of 3 farm laws which led to mass protests. (Post)
News source(s): AP, WSJ
Credits:

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Dracophyllum (talk · give credit) and DiplomatTesterMan (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: This article was previously in ongoing, now has a noteworthy update which should bring it towards conclusion. - Indefensible (talk) 06:50, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: One of the major farmers' unions behind the protests, Bharatiya Kisan Union, has promised to continue protesting till the laws are actually repealed (source). I wonder if we should put this blurb up now, or when Parliament repeals them and the farmers go home (don't have strong opinions either way, but I lean towards waiting). If we're going to put it up now, I've uploaded this screengrab of Modi's announcement from his CC-BY YouTube channel; we could use it. Btw Indefensible - Dracophyllum was the only updater, not DiplomatTesterMan. Kind regards, W. Tell DCCXLVI (^{talk to me!}/_c) 07:05, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  Using the update to put back in ongoing instead of a final blurb would be fine too if preferable. And DiplomatTesterMan did more updates on the article before that, he still deserves some credit too I think. - Indefensible (talk) 07:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose because the article is not sufficiently updated. There is currently a 1 sentence mention in the lead of the repeal of the laws, and no mention of it, nor of any follow-on protests, anywhere in the body of the article. Before this can be posted, the latest developments would need to be added to the article appropriately. --Jayron32 12:18, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  @Jayron32 Have you read the repeal section? Dracophyllum 20:10, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

  Your response is 8 hours after Jayron32's, Dracophyllum. The section may have not existed when Jayron commented. But then again, I am not going to take the time to check if it did exist at 12:18 PM UTC on 19 Nov 2021. Tube·of·Light 02:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: The announcement by itself has no legal value. Parliament has to repeal the laws, which it will probably do in the coming Winter Session. Also some farmer's unions are continuing protests until the laws are repealed and minimum support prices reconsidered. So it might be better to wait, but no strong opinion either way. --Jose Mathew (talk) 12:24, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Wait and see what the impact of this is. Right now, there isn't enough information on what will happen as a result of this. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:06, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose --LaserLegs (talk) 22:54, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• to international notability. It won’t be listed on 2021 per previous discussions of it not having international notability.
• India-centric nomination, not important enough for ITN
• and renominate once the riots get into full swing.
• per above. Far from blurb-worthy, lack of deep international coverage and interest. India-centric
• Very India centric. It's probably not even the most important news in India right now, let alone the world.
• Actually not even sure this is going to be more than a couple days' news in India

"Please do not oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." 331dot (talk) 23:11, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

It's important to remember that 1/7 of the people on this planet are Indians. We don’t post a great deal of India related stories. 331dot (talk) 23:13, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Interestingly I didn't see the same PDM feedback from you above for another "country-centric" nomination from the worlds third most populous country. In fact, we do post many India-centric stories here, this one having festered in ongoing for nearly a year. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:36, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support. Invariably it is announcements that get more attention than the actual act, most of the time(we post elections when the result is known, not when the results are official/certified). If Modi renegs, that will likely be newsworthy itself. 331dot (talk) 23:16, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - as Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI says, the BKU is still protesting. I would prefer waiting till the laws are actually repealed (and FWIW, these laws are being repealed just before the 2022 Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly elections and elections in some other states, which are crucial for Modi's political party). Tube·of·Light 02:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

November 2021 lunar eclipse

Article: November 2021 lunar eclipse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The longest partial lunar eclipse in 580 years occurs. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, NBC News, NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: We don't usually post lunar eclipses but this one has gotten more RS coverage. Davey2116 (talk) 04:32, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Oppose – I didn't see it. – Sca (talk) 13:06, 19 November 2021 (UTC) ...  ;-)

Yeah. We always seem to post eclipses well after they conclude, with the snarky undertone of "and, ha ha ha, you missed it!". —Cryptic 13:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality the visibility section is two unsourced paragraphs, would need a lot more sourced information about the event (rather than just an endless list of "Related eclipses"). Joseph2302 (talk) 13:11, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I don't think we post lunar eclipses, and as Cryptic noted posting them after they're over seems very useless to readers. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 21:30, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Maybe we'll post the next one in 500+ years. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 21:40, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose lunar eclipses are even less interesting than manned spaceflights. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:41, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

November 18

Portal:Current events/2021 November 18

November 18, 2021 (2021-11-18) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Aftermath of the October 2021 Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan protests Saad Hussain Rizvi, the leader of the far-right Islamist party Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan, is released from prison under a deal to end weeks of protests by his followers, which resulted in the deaths of dozens of people. (Reuters) Arts and culture 22nd Annual Latin Grammy Awards The 22nd Annual Latin Grammy Awards are held at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. Colombian singer Camilo and Dominican Republic singer Juan Luis Guerra tie for the most awards with four wins. (The New York Times) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Germany COVID-19 vaccination in Germany The Standing Committee on Vaccination recommends that a booster dose of an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine should be given to all adults over the age of 18 years. (Deutsche Welle) Germany reports a record for the second consecutive day of 65,371 new cases of COVID-19. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Austria reports a record 15,145 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 1,011,465. (Kronen Zeitung) COVID-19 pandemic in Greece Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis announces that beginning on November 22, unvaccinated people will be banned from entering all indoor venues for which they could previously present a negative test result, due to an increase in new COVID-19 cases. Mitsotakis also announces that vaccine passports will expire after seven months for people over the age of 60 years and urges people in this age group to receive a booster dose. (Greek Reporter) COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands The Netherlands reports a record for the fourth consecutive day of 23,860 new cases of COVID-19. (Dutch News) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record for the second consecutive day of 1,251 deaths from COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 260,335. (The Moscow Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Laos Laos reports a record 1,041 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 58,798. (Vietnam Plus) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports a record 3,292 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 406,605. (The Korea Herald) A lab in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, United States, is placed on temporary lockdown by the CDC after several vials labeled "smallpox" are discovered in a freezer. (CBS News) International relations 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis Belarus suspends electricity supplies to Ukraine, in "accordance with the established procedure for interaction within the framework of contractual relations", according to a statement from the Belarusian Ministry of Energy. (Ukranews) Law and crime At the Birmingham Crown Court in England, Zephaniah McLeod is sentenced to at least 21 years imprisonment for manslaughter and four counts of attempted murder after killing one person and wounding seven others during a 90-minute stabbing spree in September 2020. (BBC News) The New York Supreme Court vacates the convictions of Muhammad Abdul Aziz (formerly Norman 3X Butler) and the late Khalil Islam (formerly Thomas 15X Johnson) for the 1965 assassination of Malcolm X. The two men were convicted alongside Thomas Hagan (formerly Talmadge Hayer) in 1966. An investigation led by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. discovered that the FBI and the NYPD had withheld evidence that would have acquitted Aziz and Islam. (The New York Times) Politics and elections 2021 Tongan general election Tongans go to the polls to elect their new government. (RNZ)

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RD: Jimmie Durham

Article: Jimmie Durham (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
• Created by Infoart (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American sculptor, essayist and poet. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 17:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

November 17

Portal:Current events/2021 November 17

November 17, 2021 (2021-11-17) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Aftermath of the October 2021 Sudanese coup d'état Soldiers open fire on civilians in Khartoum, Sudan, protesting against last month's coup d'état, killing 14 people and injuring dozens more. This brings the total death toll of civilians killed during the protests to 38. (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in the Maghreb The death toll from the attack at a military post in Inata, Soum Province, Burkina Faso, three days ago, increases to 53, including 49 gendarmes and four civilians. (Al Jazeera) 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis; Estonia–Russia barrier Estonia summons 1,700 reservists for a snap drill, which will include installing a 40-kilometer-long razor wire barrier along the border with Russia as the migrant crisis with Belarus intensifies. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents November 2021 Pacific Northwest floods The Canadian government sends the Air Force to the Pacific coast to assist with supplies after torrential rains affected regions of British Columbia near Vancouver, causing damage to highways. Minister of Emergency Preparedness Bill Blair says that landslides and floods have blocked the town of Agassiz and residents are now being assisted by the military. (Al Jazeera) A Royal Air Force F-35 Lightning II jet crashes into the Mediterranean Sea during a routine operation. The pilot successfully ejects from the aircraft and has been rescued. (The Guardian) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in Northern Ireland The Northern Ireland Executive votes to introduce a COVID-19 vaccine passport beginning next month, which will contain a person's vaccination status or negative COVID-19 test result, and will be used to enter bars, restaurants and pubs. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Austria reports a record 14,416 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 996,320. (ORF) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Germany reports a record 52,826 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (ABC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 1,247 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 259,084. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Spain, COVID-19 vaccination in Spain Spain’s panel of vaccine experts approves the extension of the COVID-19 vaccine booster dose to people between the ages of 60 and 69 and healthcare workers. (The Washington Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina COVID-19 vaccination in Argentina Argentina receives a shipment of 800,000 doses of the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine. (Ámbito) COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines The Food and Drug Administration of the Philippines authorises emergency use of the Novavax COVID-19 vaccine, which will be included in the national vaccination program. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 vaccination in the United States White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator Jeff Zients announces that 80% of people aged 12 and older have received their first doses of the COVID-19 vaccine. (USA Today) (WNCN) Politics and elections Former President of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili, who has been on a hunger strike for 48 days, is in critical condition. Yesterday, Justice Minister Rati Bregadze denied Saakashvili transfer to a civilian clinic, from a prison hospital where he is being treated. (France 24)

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(Closed) Convicted assassins of Malcolm X exonerated

Consensus will not develop to post. Stephen 22:31, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Assassination of Malcolm X (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The Manhattan District Attorney announces that two men convicted in the assassination of Malcolm X will be exonerated. (Post)
News source(s): Southall, Ashley; Bromwich, Jonah E. (17 November 2021). "2 Men Convicted of Killing Malcolm X Will Be Exonerated After 55 Years". New York Times. Retrieved 17 November 2021., Moghe, Sonia; Sanchez, Ray (November 17, 2021). "New York Times: Two men convicted of killing Malcolm X to be exonerated". CNN.
Credits:

• Nominated by BD2412 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Smallbones (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 BD2412 T 21:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose this is DYK material. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:17, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  Good thing this article is DYK eligible. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  It is, but how often are those convicted in a major assassination exonerated? The assassination itself, of course, would have been ITN-worthy, as would the convictions of the accused. To me, this is on the same level. BD2412 T 21:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  Just remembered it won't make DYK as much of the content was copy/pasted from the main article, and it's not 5x from that. ITN it is! – Muboshgu (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  It was also created nine months ago so any expansion at that time is far too old; you could conceivably get it through DYK if it passes as a Good Article though. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 21:43, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  It was just moved to mainspace. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:34, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Not only would this by DYK material, it's not even eligible per Muboshgu. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Retroactive. Lacks current significance. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 12:59, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Malcolm X is still dead. The two who are being exonerated are not independently notable and were released decades ago, so the actual impact is minimal. Modest Genius ^talk 13:13, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support This is receiving a fair amount of coverage (main headline in the NYT and Daily News) and it looks like a decent article, just one cite tag that I can see.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:57, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose While likely an important move for proper justice, not really that significant in the long run. --Masem (t) 14:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support. If it was found that John Wilkes Booth did not assassinate Lincoln, or that Lee Harvey Oswald did not assassinate JFK, it would be posted, and I don't see how this is different. The history books are not often changed in such a manner. 331dot (talk) 14:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

  Those two examples were incomparably more significant, as both victims were heads of state. – Sca (talk) 15:24, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

  Malcolm X was not a head of state but he was highly influential in the cause of civil rights. The point is that history is not often corrected as it was here. 331dot (talk) 16:53, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose – per Modest Genius. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 16:50, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Young Dolph

Article: Young Dolph (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], The Guardian, CNN, The New York Times, Fox News
Credits:

• Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
• Created by Christopher Boyd Jr (talk · give credit)
• Updated by WMrapids (talk · give credit) and Spencer (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American rapper. Article appears to be in good shape. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 20:50, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose most of the prose is text version of the releases of each piece of music, not much meaningful prose, especially for such a young death which one imagines isn't coincidental to his line of work. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
  • The Rambling Man I have since added more detail to the article, would you take another look? Thanks, Spencer^T•C 23:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Have added more info about his life and career. Spencer^T•C 23:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Death covered by many notable and reliable sources. Article seems to be improved as well.--WMrapids (talk) 00:40, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted – Muboshgu (talk) 16:57, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

November 2021 Pacific Northwest floods

Article: November 2021 Pacific Northwest floods (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​A series of floods in British Columbia and Washington leaves at least two dead and thousands in B.C. without electricity. (Post)
News source(s): CBC News, CNN, CTV News, AP, BBC, Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/17/pacific-north-west-floods-storm-british-columbia-washington-state
Credits:

• Nominated by Cyrobyte (talk · give credit)
• Created by Canuck85 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: B.C. Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure called the storm "unpresedented" Cyrobyte (talk) 19:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose – Not ITN Worthy ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 19:39, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose With one dead this is clearly not ITN-worthy and not notable. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose no internet for a handful of people? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:08, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Weak Support in addition the flooding, given Canada's geography now cuts off Vancouver by land from the rest of Canada.[5] CaffeinAddict (talk) 20:24, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  Vancouver is floating apart? Where will it end up? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:31, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

In China, of course. It's the trend these days. – Sca (talk) 23:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose not important enough for ITN. If it wasn't in North America, something this unimportant wouldn't have even been nominated. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:40, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: Perhaps the blurb can mention the evacuation of thousands of residents and the destruction of infrastructure. Power outage and a small death toll won't cut it. --PFHLai (talk) 22:35, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - this is quite a significant event in Canada, with reports that it could become the most expensive natural disaster in Canadian history [6], the death toll is expected to rise, along with wide ranging effects on supply chains and transportation networks. If I recall correctly, I think we did post the 2013 Alberta floods, for precedent. Connormah (talk) 22:39, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  I guess "could be" is key here. If it does become the most expensive natural disaster after electing Trudeau in the history of Canada, then it's well placed for a blurb. Maybe now is premature. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 22:42, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Wait Living through this, it's a pretty devastating disaster, with all road access cut off to and from the Port of Vancouver, which is having a major impact on supply chains across Western Canada. But I don't think this meets the standard previously set for ITN just yet, although there are reports that the death toll is expected to rise. There's also reports of an imminent dike breach into a large city. As such, I'd suggest that we wait. NorthernFalcon (talk) 22:51, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Lots of damage & dislocation but so far only one fatal. – Sca (talk) 23:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Wait If this gets worse and deadlier, then I will support. Heythereimaguy (talk) 13:02, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Wait per NorthernFalcon & Sca. Modest Genius ^talk 13:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

November 16

Portal:Current events/2021 November 16

November 16, 2021 (2021-11-16) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in the Maghreb 2021 Niger attacks Gunmen raid the camp of self-defence militia in the village of Bakorat, Niger, killing 25 people. (Reuters) 2021 Uganda bombings Three suicide bombers blow themselves up near a police station and the entrance of the Parliament in Kampala, killing three people and injuring 33 others. The Islamic State claims responsibility for the attacks. (Reuters) 2021 Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis Fifteen Armenian soldiers are killed and twelve more are captured by the Azerbaijani Armed Forces during border clashes, amid mutual recriminations before a Russian-brokered ceasefire is agreed at 19:00 local time. (JAMnews) Business and economy Gas prices for the United Kingdom and the European Union increase by 17% after the German energy regulator suspends the approval of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline from Russia to Germany. The regulator says that the pipeline needs to comply with German law before they can certify the €10 billion project. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte orders the lifting of the mandate to use face shields in areas under Alert 3 and lower levels, which includes the National Capital Region. However, face shields will continue to be used in areas under Alert level 5 and areas under granular lockdown. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports a new single-day record of 495 critical cases of COVID-19. (Yonhap News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Russia, COVID-19 drug development Russia authorizes Pfizer to conduct clinical trials for its experimental COVID-19 drug named Paxlovid, which will continue until March 2023. (The Hill) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine reports a record 838 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 77,895. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand New Zealand reports a record 222 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (New Zealand Herald) Deployment of COVID-19 vaccines The number of Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine doses supplied worldwide surpasses two billion. (Medical Xpress) COVID-19 drug development Pfizer and the Medicines Patent Pool sign a global licensing agreement that will allow Pfizer's experimental COVID-19 oral drug Paxlovid to be manufactured under a royalty-free license in 95 low and middle-income countries. (The Wall Street Journal) 2020–21 H5N8 outbreak Japan reports an outbreak of the H5N8 bird flu strain at a farm with about 11,000 egg-laying chickens in Izumi, Kagoshima Prefecture. (Reuters) A peer-reviewed study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine announces that an Argentinian woman has allegedly been "functionally cured" of HIV by her own immune system. If confirmed, the woman would be only the second individual in history whose own immune system successfully destroyed the disease without any form of stem-cell transplantation. (USA Today) International relations 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis Migrants at a temporarily closed checkpoint in Kuźnica, Poland, throw stones at Polish border guards, while attempting to destroy the border fence in order to break through the Belarus–Poland border. The guards respond with water cannons and tear gas in an attempt to disperse the mob. The Polish ministry accuses the Belarusian military of aiding the attacks along Poland's borders. (BBC) Russo-Ukrainian War British Prime Minister Boris Johnson states that the west will have to choose between reliance on Russian gas and supporting Ukraine amid reported buildups of the Russian military near the border with Ukraine. (The Guardian) Belarus–European Union relations Researchers at the American cybersecurity firm Mandiant report that the Belarusian government has ties to the hacker group Ghostwriter, which was accused of targeting various German politicians and ministries in September and has since been accused of launching misinformation campaigns against Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Ukraine. (RFE/RL) Law and crime The Mexican Secretariat of National Defense announces that Rosalinda González Valencia, the wife of Jalisco New Generation Cartel leader Nemesio Oseguera "El Mencho" Cervantes, is re-arrested. González was previously detained in 2018 for allegedly running the finances of the cartel, but was released on bail. (BBC News) Politics and elections Politics of Monaco Princess Charlene of Monaco cancels all upcoming activities, including those of Monaco's national celebrations, due to ill health, according to a statement from the royal palace. The Princess is said to be suffering from "deep fatigue". (Reuters) Pandora Papers The impeachment against Chilean President Sebastián Piñera is defeated in the Senate, after the motion fails to meet the minimum two-thirds threshold in a vote. (Bloomberg) Science and technology Moons of Saturn A new moon of Saturn, S/2019 S 1, is announced, bringing the total number of known moons to 83. (Minor Planet Center)

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(Posted) Kosmos 1408

Articles: Anti-satellite weapon (talk · history · tag) and Kosmos 1408 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Russia shoots down Kosmos 1408 with an anti-satellite weapon creating dangerous space debris. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​Russia shoots down Kosmos 1408 with an anti-satellite weapon, creating a field of space debris.
Alternative blurb II: ​Kosmos 1408 is destroyed by a Russian anti-satellite weapon and turned into a stream of space debris.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters, Guardian, Bloomberg
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Created by Mike Peel (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Smeagol 17 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: We have some real news about the ISS now as the crew have to take shelter from a shower of debris created by a Russian missile test. And the Kessler syndrome advances another notch. What we're mainly missing is a good picture but we might use something generic like this. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support in principle, as this is a significant event for the space industry (more so than Crew-3 that we already have on the template). However the article is pretty lightweight and could use some expansion. It also needs a source for the claim that Russia was responsible for the test - we can't claim something in the blurb that isn't cited in the article. I would also remove 'dangerous' from the blurb as that's quite a strong accusation. Modest Genius ^talk 13:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  Article seems fine now, though as I was one of the users updating it an independent assessment would be welcome. Modest Genius ^talk 18:16, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support on the merits; the use of an anti-satellite weapon(even as a test) is rare and few countries possess such technology. Russia isn't denying it. 331dot (talk) 13:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@331dot: Yes, the use is rare and few countries possess such technology. Yet, I remember a similar test from India a couple of years ago was rejected as the technology "has been around for a while." If I recall correctly, there had been significant debate about debris back then too. 2405:201:4013:8087:A828:E291:B9B5:4B09 (talk) 18:31, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I can only comment on the nomination in front of me; I can't speak to past ones at this time. 331dot (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support in principle though article needs to include that Russia shot it down (right now, the article just says it broke up). And other cn tags in article would need fixing. Though I agree, this is way more important/notable/covered in news sources than Crew-3. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:12, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I started putting this through DYK earlier today, see Template:Did you know nominations/Kosmos 1408, since I haven't enjoyed participating in previous ITN discussions. But if you want this here, then the DYK can be withdrawn. I've updated the template above, since I started the article yesterday. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• One option would be to merge this into the existing Crew-3 ISS mission blurb. If Kosmos 1408 is not bolded then it can still be a DYK too. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I oppose merging those blurbs - these are separate events. Modest Genius ^talk 14:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I also oppose merging- they're separate events, and this one is more important, so shouldn't be stuck on the end of some less important and newswirthy article that's only on the front page because it was alledgedly ITNR (even though that ITNR criteria was demonstrated to be unfit for purpose). And if this does reach front page, then DYK would no longer be eligible, but until that point, don't see a need to withdraw the DYK nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

We could remove the Crew-3 blurb and replace it with this one when this is ready to go (assuming Crew-3 is still on ITN). Yeah, it doesn't get its "full time" there, but I agree that it doesn't make sense to merge, but having two ISS-related things could be seen as overwhelming the box. --Masem (t) 14:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – Fairly widely covered, but broader significance of a "threat" to the ISS isn't so apparent. – Sca (talk) 13:38, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Even a fleck of paint could seriously damage the ISS, one of the most expensive objects ever constructed. 331dot (talk) 11:14, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support in principle. This is very significant news and an interesting story of high encyclopedic value.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support in principle per above, just needs better fleshing out of the article. --Masem (t) 13:53, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Upon reflection, it seems to be a serious threat all right, but ... can we post something that hasn't had a tangible effect ... yet? – Sca (talk) 14:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

PS: My question is, did Putin authorize this stupid 'test' – or was it just an act of heedless military apparatchiks down in the bureaucracy? (Russia is an oligarchy that has a country – a country that has an enormous military.) – Sca (talk) 14:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• • The way I'm reading it, the story is more that Russia has appeared to have violated a treaty related to space-bound weapons, in addition to this being a story of interest to space exploration (the potential of damage to the ISS that forced the crew to shelter for at least two orbits as it passed through the debris field). --Masem (t) 14:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  Reasonable enough. However, the threat to human lives (including two Russians!) seems more compelling in terms of reader interest. – Sca (talk) 14:22, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

From our article on the Outer Space Treaty: "Although it forbids establishing military bases, testing weapons and conducting military maneuvers on celestial bodies, the treaty does not expressly ban all military activities in space, nor the establishment of military space forces or the placement of conventional weapons in space". Testing an anti-satellite weapon on your own target is not against any treaty, just regarded as irresponsible. Note that the US, China and India have all conducted similar tests with no legal repercussions or UN censure. Modest Genius ^talk 15:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose no longer fresh, not really in the news, rolled off a while ago and probably better suited for DYK. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  What's your time frame for "no longer fresh"? The BBC article is only 12 hours old and the event itself occurred yesterday. It's certainly a newer event than anything currently in the ITN box... --Jayron32 16:16, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  (edit conflict) The BBC published two more articles about this story in just the last hour [7] [8]. That seems pretty fresh. Modest Genius ^talk 16:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  It happened yesterday, and is very much still in the news. Much more so than the posted blurbs, such as the NYC Marathon on 7 November for example. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:20, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  OH sure, you can dig into websites and find more analysis, but it's not headline news and hasn't been for most of the day now. Even the article makes it clear that the "main event" has passed. Biggest headlines in the UK are now that Johnson is proposing to prevent MPs from getting paid consultancy jobs. This story is no longer even on the BBC News homepage. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:24, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is short, but sufficient; it seems to have developed some since the earlier notes. Topic is being covered by reliable news sources. --Jayron32 16:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose ... for now. Article text comprises 340 words, of which 115 are background, leaving a mere 230 words about the current threat. IMO, too thin for MP promotion. Second, we shouldn't blurb something that hasn't had an impact (yet). – Sca (talk) 17:03, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  PS: Given that the current situation could continue for quite some time, perhaps after a bit we should consider posting this directly to Ongoing. – Sca (talk) 17:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  Whatever political fallout there has been is pretty much so far just a short but important burst (for blurb posting), but there's no sign this is going to escalate into something further, in comparison to the nuclear submarine sale a few months back. --Masem (t) 19:50, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Wait is there a real danger debris hits other satellites soon, or is this just "an abundance of caution"? Will there be significant geo-political ramifications from the test? Until one of those is "yes", I think we should wait. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 19:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Everywhere is at risk for disaster, but this info is nothing like disaster actually happening. Political story, and involving two countries who always bicker. Could change if the ISS is destroyed or something stronger than words breaks out. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Is this an RD nom for the destruction of Kosmos 1408? If so, its "career section" needs an expansion to describe how it was used while still in orbit and operational.--PFHLai (talk) 23:08, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Questionable significance as far as potential impacts, especially given at the moment it is just predictive. I would assume that the test itself is not sufficient for ITN, so I'm on the "Oppose" side here. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:01, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support even if nothing happens to the ISS, ASAT weapon tests don't happen every day, or even every year. Banedon (talk) 03:44, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Certainly magnitudes more important than the multitude of launches posted every now and then on ITN. Gotitbro (talk) 07:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support significant, made the news and the article Kosmos 1408 is short but adequate. Given the military nature of this satellite and its destruction, we can't expect to know that many details. Of the proposed blurbs, only alt 1 is good. --LukeSurl ^t c 10:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support in principle this is a significant story BUT it simply cannot be posted with a blurb of this quality. Its language is misleading and makes it sound as if a functional satellite was attacked, but rather a defunct satellite was destroyed as part of a weapons test... slightly different. Possibly also include the name of the missile system, if known, and replace "Russia" with the actual agency overseeing the test. JMonkey2006 (talk) 11:10, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  Feel free to propose a different blurb. Or we could simply add 'defunct' before the name of the satellite. Modest Genius ^talk 11:38, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – Absent from main RS sites on Wednesday; no longer in the news. Seems a minor issue without tangible effects. Neither target article is really about this event. – Sca (talk) 12:42, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support in principle per JMonkey. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 13:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support. The Kessler syndrome may have been triggered: "The Kessler syndrome is troublesome because of the domino effect and feedback runaway wherein impacts between objects of sizable mass spall off debris from the force of the collision. The fragments can then hit other objects, producing even more space debris: if a large enough collision or explosion were to occur, such as between a space station and a defunct satellite, or as the result of hostile actions in space, then the resulting debris cascade could make prospects for long-term viability of satellites in particular low Earth orbits extremely low." Count Iblis (talk) 14:52, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support - Russia is weaponizing space. Whether or not they were the first to do it - and presumably they weren't - this is an indication of a change in global affairs when it comes to outer space.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:16, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

If you didn't know (see anti-satellite weapon), the first ASAT test was in 1959, and was conducted by the US. Banedon (talk) 02:06, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment any admins around here to post this? I oppose its inclusion as it's already stale in my opinion, but there's a pretty clear consensus here and the longer it's left unposted, the staler it becomes.... The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted altblurb2. --PFHLai (talk) 17:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

The space junkies emerge triumphant. – Sca (talk) 18:23, 17 November 2021 (UTC)  ;-)

November 15

Portal:Current events/2021 November 15

November 15, 2021 (2021-11-15) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in the Maghreb The death toll from yesterday's mass shooting at a military post near a gold mine in Inata, Soum Province, Burkina Faso, increases to 32, including 28 gendarmes and four civilians, making the attack the deadliest against security forces in the country. (Reuters) Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing Yesterday's taxi explosion in Liverpool, England, that killed the bomber and injured the driver outside the Liverpool Women's Hospital, is declared a terrorist incident by police. Mayor Joanne Anderson says that the driver locked the bomber inside the vehicle after noticing that the bomber was wearing an explosive device. (BBC News) (WalesOnline) Three al-Shabaab members escape from a maximum security prison in Kenya, including one of the perpetrators of the 2015 Garissa attack, in which 148 people were killed. (Reuters) Business and economy Infrastructure policy of the Joe Biden administration U.S. President Joe Biden signs the $1.2 trillion Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act into law. (The Washington Post) Disasters and accidents November 2021 Pacific Northwest floods Merritt, British Columbia, Canada is evacuated after severe flooding inundated the city of about 7,000. Several highways throughout southern British Columbia were also washed out by heavy rain, leaving at least 10 people stranded. (CBC) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Cambodia, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic Cambodia begins to allow fully vaccinated foreign travellers to visit the country without a quarantine if they show a negative test result from the previous 72 hours and test negative again upon arrival, as the country currently has the one of world's highest COVID-19 vaccination rates. (AFP via Barron's) COVID-19 pandemic in India, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic India reopens its border to fully vaccinated foreign travellers on regular commercial flights after being closed for 18 months since March 2020 due to a decrease in the number of new COVID-19 cases. All travellers must follow COVID-19 protocols and show a negative test result from the previous 72 hours, except those from countries with mutual vaccine recognition. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Sri Lanka, COVID-19 drug development Sri Lanka approves the use of the COVID-19 oral drug molnupiravir in the country. (Adaderana) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Berlin begins to implement "2G" rule that limiting access to restaurants, cinemas, bars, and cultural and entertainment venues to those who are vaccinated or have recovered from COVID-19 amid a rising number of COVID-19 cases across Germany. (VOA) COVID-19 pandemic in Latvia Latvia ends its 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew and allows companies to fire employees who are unvaccinated against COVID-19. Unvaccinated people are also banned from taking their duties for parliament and entering shopping malls with a size greater than 1,500 square metres (16,000 sq ft). (Medical Xpress) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, COVID-19 vaccination in the United Kingdom The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation approves the extension of age eligibility of COVID-19 vaccine booster doses in the United Kingdom to people between 40 and 49 years old and the second dose for teenagers between the ages of 16 and 17 years. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia COVID-19 pandemic in Queensland Queensland reopens its state border to fully vaccinated Australians travelling by plane, as 70% of the state's adult population are now fully vaccinated. (ABC News Australia) COVID-19 pandemic in Egypt Egypt begins to ban unvaccinated public sector employees and university students from entering workplaces and universities unless they show a negative PCR test from the previous 72 hours. (Arab News) International relations China–United States relations US President Joe Biden holds a virtual bilateral meeting with China's leader Xi Jinping. (AP News) Foreign relations of Kiribati The government of New Zealand vows to help islanders in Banaba, Kiribati, to access fresh water, as the island suffers from frequent droughts and is dependent on rainfall. (RNZ) 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis The European Union says it will impose new sanctions on Belarus in response to the migrant crisis on the Belarus–Poland border. (CNN) Politics and elections 2021 Argentine legislative election With nearly all votes counted, the ruling Peronist government loses control of both the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate. This is the first time since the return to democracy in 1983 that Peronists do not have a majority in either house. (El Mostrador Chile) Science and technology Russia carries out a direct-ascent anti-satellite weapon test on the defunct Soviet spacecraft Kosmos 1408, creating a cloud of debris that threatens the International Space Station. (SpaceNews)

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RD: Katarina Blagojević

Article: Katarina Blagojević (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Telegraf
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Uldis s (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 93.86.229.111 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Serbian chess player. TJMSmith (talk) 00:06, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: IMO, an RD nom should include in the prose at least one sentence, footnoted, of course, about when/where/how the subject died. --PFHLai (talk) 22:03, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Dzifa Attivor

Article: Dzifa Attivor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ghanaweb
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Natsubee (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ampimd (talk · give credit) and Mrkokgh (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ghanaian politician and businesswoman. TJMSmith (talk) 00:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Weak support Would like to see some more info about her role as Minister of Transport but everything else in the article meets minimum standards and looks okay. Spencer^T•C 03:25, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support just about enough in the article for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Julio Lugo

Article: Julio Lugo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Boston Globe MLB.com ESPN.com
Credits:

• Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
• Created by 68.227.39.47 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ackru (talk · give credit), Nohomersryan (talk · give credit), Dmoore5556 (talk · give credit) and Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Major League Baseball player. Article could be slightly improved. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 15:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment lots of cn tags at the moment, which would need to be resolved. Also, a lot of headings, seems way too many to me (as lots of sections are 1-2 sentences saying he signed for someone and then played a few or no games, then left). Joseph2302 (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I can try to address the noted items tonight (US eastern timezone) and will leave a note here once updated. Dmoore5556 (talk) 22:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I finished sourcing the article. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:18, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Along with sourcing added by Muboshgu (thank you) I've added relevant details about Lugo's baseball career; the article looks to be in good shape now. Dmoore5556 (talk) 05:54, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Marking ready. Spencer^T•C 04:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. Proud to have put another LUGO on MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 07:13, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Clarissa Eden

Article: Clarissa Eden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Telegraph
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by MartinCollin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Neveselbert (talk · give credit), RedRumRomanus (talk · give credit) and IXIA (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British countess, memoirist, and centenarian. Still needs some citations. TJMSmith (talk) 01:29, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Bulgarian general election

Article: 2021 Bulgarian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In the Bulgarian general election, We Continue the Change (co-leader Kiril Petkov pictured) wins the most seats. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​We Continue the Change wins the most seats in the Bulgarian general election.
News source(s): FT Euronews, Balkan Insight, Sofia Globe, Reuters, DW, Spiegel (In German)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)
• Updated by FellowMellow (talk · give credit), PLATEL (talk · give credit), Aréat (talk · give credit) and Braganza (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Second election held yesterday, ITNR, being a general election. The election comission has announced that We Continue the Change has won most seats, so therefore such a nomination can now be made. As we have posted the winner in the previous elections, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/July_2021#(Posted)_Bulgarian_parliamentary_election. They are a new party too, so surprising. I have added a result synopsis and started the aftermath. Good article, have spent a lot of time on it myself with a few others. BastianMAT (talk) 14:45, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article has minimum of prose describing the leadup, results, and aftermath. More writing would be nice, but it's passable for the main page. Everything is referenced and it has prose, which is more than can be said for many of the nominations of this type. --Jayron32 12:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: Is it time to start the English wikibio for the other co-leader of We Continue the Change, Asen Vasilev? The coalition has two leaders, not just Petkov. Do we want to wait till a government is formed? --PFHLai (talk) 12:01, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I guess yeah, he deserves one too, but Petkov is the primary focus here as he is the one seeking to become prime minister (per https://www.euronews.com/2021/11/14/bulgarian-elections-newly-formed-pp-party-neck-and-neck-with-right-wing-gerb-party). The truth is we don't even know yet if they will be successful forming a goverment, but we posted both the Czech party SPOLU and the last Bulgarian election when ITN won the most seats as the election itself is ITNR, so going by that this nomination/blurb should be suitable to make it out to the front page.BastianMAT (talk) 12:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is in great shape. I think the easiest way to solve what PFHLai exposes is to put in the blurb that Petkov is the "co-leader", thus making it understood that he is not the only one leading the coalition. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:42, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
  • How about not mentioning either co-leaders in the blurb? (See alt1) I'm not sure about using the proposed photo of Petkov on MainPage, anyway. --PFHLai (talk) 22:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
    • We can do that too if there are any issues with the image, no problem. BastianMAT (talk) 16:44, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support altblurb1 Just updated the numbers of the results, the article is well-written --Vacant0 (talk) 22:56, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support article looks good enough, would say this is ready. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:47, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted altblurb1. --PFHLai (talk) 17:31, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

2021 Argentinian Midterm Election

Article: 2021 Argentine legislative election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In the Argentine legislative election, Juntos por el Cambio wins the most seats as Frente de Todos lose their majority in the Chamber of Deputies and Senate. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​In the Argentine legislative election, Juntos por el Cambio wins the most seats as Frente de Todos lose their majority in the Chamber of Deputies and Senate for the first time since 1983.
Alternative blurb II: ​In the Argentine legislative election, Juntos por el Cambio wins the most seats.
Alternative blurb III: ​In the Argentine legislative election, Frente de Todos loses its majority in both chambers for the first time since 1983.
News source(s): Reuters AP News Express News Aljazzera Dw News BBC Yahoo
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Dainshku (talk · give credit), PLATEL (talk · give credit) and Aréat (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: It is ITNR, big news as the opposition won the legislative elections/midterm elections and the ruling party have lost both majorities in the chamber of deputies and the senate for the first time since 1983. BastianMAT (talk) 14:45, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose As of now, there is no prose synopsis of the results of the main election. There is only a prose synopsis of the primaries. If that is fixed, this can be posted. --Jayron32 14:49, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Have added an synopsis now. BastianMAT (talk) 15:12, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Senate section? --Jayron32 17:18, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support as and when the article gets cleaned up a bit This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 15:09, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support when the article is cleaned up a bit. Remember, go for it!. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 15:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I wanted to nominate this but hasitated. Are these midterms considered general elections? Half of the seats in the lower chamber and 1/3 of the upper chamber are up for election and our article defines general elections as "elections in which all or most members of a political body are chosen." Scaramouche33 (talk) 16:16, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

  I half-wondered if such "mid-term" elections were covered by ITNR. If they are, perhaps that should also be explicitly noted at ITNR. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Yeah, mid terms elections are part of it, it is notable too as the ruling party have lost their majority. Here is the US one that was also posted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/November_2018#(Posted)_2018_US_Midterm_Elections.BastianMAT (talk) 16:28, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

    • But that was mainly because it involved "all or most members of a political body are chosen". This doesn't appear to be the case here. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

      • It depends on how you see on it. The mid term senate elections in US only feature 34 members up running for election. In Argentina it was half of the congress and enough for an significant change in both political bodies (ruling party losing control of both the house and the senate).BastianMAT (talk) 16:53, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
        • Well it doesn't matter what happened in the US, how does this meet the requirements at ITNR? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

From what I understand, in the US midterms all House seats+1/3 of Senate seats were up for election so that would be considered as "most members of an electoral body" but here it's only half. Does that still count as general elections? If so it's ITN/R, if not who knows. Scaramouche33 (talk) 17:14, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah I agree, it is arguable for both sides. At least based on this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midterm_election, Argentina[1] (legislative and local election) falls under the heading General elections (which makes it ITNR) alongside the United States (legislative and local election) which was posted.BastianMAT (talk) 17:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure it is arguable here, it doesn't meet the definition in ITNR and it's a mid-term, not a general election by any normal definition (despite what "Wikipedia" might say). The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 17:30, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – First four grafs back into the results and seem needlessly complex. – Sca (talk) 17:19, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment the table in the infobox violates MOS:COLHEAD by having column headers in the middle of the table. And we shouldn't consider putting this on front page until the results are complete, as a minimum. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Blurbs are needlessly complex. Would support if blurb was simpler. Pyramids09 (talk) 18:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Added AltBlurb 3 as a simplified version of AltBlurb 1, which was the better of the prior three for highlighting the historical significance of the results. Let me know what you think. Mount Patagonia (talk) 00:32, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

November 14

Portal:Current events/2021 November 14

November 14, 2021 (2021-11-14) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in the Maghreb Gunmen open fire at a military post near a gold mine in Inata, Soum Province, Burkina Faso, killing 19 gendarmes and a civilian. (Al Jazeera) Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing A passenger is killed and his driver injured when a taxi explodes in front of the Liverpool Women's Hospital in Liverpool, England. Three men are subsequently arrested under the Terrorism Act. (BBC News) Syrian civil war A bomb explodes near a vehicle carrying troops in Deir ez-Zor, Syria, killing four soldiers and a general. (The New Arab) Somali Civil War; Capital punishment in Somalia Two Ugandan soldiers are sentenced to death and three more receive 39-year prison sentences in Somalia for killing seven civilians during a gun battle in Golweyn, Lower Shabelle, three months ago. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents Astroworld Festival crowd crush A 9-year-old boy, injured during a crowd crush at the Astroworld Music Festival, who had been in a medically-induced coma, dies, bringing the death toll to 10. (CNN) European migrant crisis Eight sub-Saharan African migrants are found dead on a boat adrift off the southern coast of the Canary Islands, with 54 other men being rescued from the boat. (El País) A fire at a COVID-19 ward in Sliven, Bulgaria, kills three patients. (ABC News) A magnitude 6.5 earthquake strikes Hormozgan Province, Iran, at a depth of 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) and is felt in many southern Iranian cities. A man killed by a falling pole is the sole death reported. (Reuters) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg announces a nationwide lockdown for those over the age of 12 years who are unvaccinated against COVID-19, which prohibits them from leaving their homes except for essential reasons beginning at midnight, amid a record increase in new COVID-19 cases. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Egypt, COVID-19 vaccination in Egypt The Egyptian government announces the start of clinical trials for COVI-VAX, which is the country’s first domestically-made COVID-19 vaccine. (Ahram Online) COVID-19 pandemic in Israel, COVID-19 vaccination in Israel The Israeli Health ministry approves the usage of the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for children aged 5 to 11, two weeks after the U.S. FDA grants its own approval, with vaccination expected to begin next week. (Haaretz) COVID-19 pandemic in Peru Peru announces that people over the age of 18 years who want to enter indoor spaces must show a proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 beginning in December, either physical or virtual vaccination cards. (AFP via Barron's) Politics and elections 2021 Bulgarian general election Bulgarians go to the polls to elect the President and the National Assembly. (MSN) 2021 Argentine legislative election Argentines go to the polls to elect members of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate. (24/7 News Agency)

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(Closed) Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing

trending oppose, unlikely to develop consensus to post at this point. --Jayron32 15:43, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Liverpool Women's Hospital bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​A taxi carrying a bomber is blown up at Liverpool Women's Hospital, killing the perpetrator. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​An attempted terrorist bombing at Liverpool Women's Hospital in Liverpool, England, kills the perpetrator and injures another man.
Alternative blurb II: ​An explosion, which killed the alleged bomber and injured another man at Liverpool Women's Hospital in Liverpool, England, is declared a terror incident.
News source(s): "Liverpool hospital taxi explosion: what we know so far". The Guardian. 15 November 2021. Retrieved 15 November 2021.
"Liverpool Women's Hospital explosion declared a terror incident". BBC News. 15 November 2021. Retrieved 15 November 2021.
Credits:

• Nominated by AFreshStart (talk · give credit)
• Created by Serial Number 54129 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: This is a current event and newsworthy. —AFreshStart (talk) 16:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support this has been declared a terrorist incident, and is generating lots of news (it's prominent on the BBC News site still). I believe it's the first bombing in England since 2017 Manchester Arena one, and caused the UK terror threat level to be increased. Article itself is good enough quality. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support given that they have assigned terrorist motives to this now. My attempt at a more concise/ITN-style altblurb given, please edit as needed. --Masem (t) 17:34, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

  "Police said the motivation for the attack was unclear but it had been declared as a terrorist incident." InedibleHulk (talk) 21:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is of sufficient length and quality, properly referenced, and item is in the news currently. No objections here. --Jayron32 17:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Has also been nominated at DYK.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support alt still in the news. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:04, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose This was a minor terrorist attack that caused only one casualty. Now we are not concerned about the number of victims? Certainly "is in the news", but I don't think it has the same relevance as other terrorist incidents that have occurred that have not been approved to be on Main Page. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• The perpetrator was killed and the taxi driver was hospitalised. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. Failed attack which caused one injury and killed the attacker. It's not clear what the target was or who it was supposed to terrorise. If this hadn't been declared a terrorist incident it would be minor local news. I encourage the existing DYK nom instead. Modest Genius ^talk 19:02, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Regardless of terrorism tag, I suspect this would have been national news. But of course, we will never know. The fact is it is big national news. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• But it was declared a terrorist attack, which adds notability to the incident. Jbvann05 20:32, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Not really, it just grants the police additional powers and generates more headlines. The actual event doesn't become any worse. Modest Genius ^talk 13:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support alt Notable, now declared a terrorist incident, article in decent shape.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 19:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support - Terrorism need not have a high death count in order to be notable and newsworthy; we have posted terrorist incidents on ITN that have had a death toll of zero.--WaltCip-(talk) 20:04, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I find it very interesting how many of those who support this nomination refused to publish the terrorist attack in Auckland in September, whose consequences were almost the same as in this case. Any clarification? _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 20:58, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• What do you mean "refused to publish"? They didn't !vote there. Apart from Modest Genius, who is opposed here also? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you for your answer because clearly I've realized that I have not expressed myself well. I mean that at the time, the reason why I've opposed was the same used by other users (who have not participated in this debate, except Modest Genius) to not support the cited nomination in September. That is why I am frankly surprised. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:29, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• BLP Caution One suspect is dead, but four others are arrested in connection; might want to attribute this "attempted terrorist bombing" instead of stating it as a fact Wikipedia knows (a "declaration" from police is still an allegation). InedibleHulk (talk) 21:37, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Counter Terrorism Police Caution: all four have been released: [9]. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:50, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• OK, nevermind then. Can't go wrong speaking ill of the dead. At least by Wikipedian norms. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• No need to get personal, if you don't mind. Norman Butkiss 123 (talk) 22:47, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. I will admit to perhaps being more jaded to bomb stories than some other nationalities may be, but even with that notwithstanding, I don't believe we'd be considering an attack which killed no victims and injured one if it took place elsewhere (we recently didn't post, for example, an attack that targeted but didn't kill a head of state). That isn't necessarily to say there's any deliberate bias here but it's important to remember that England has a well-developed media sphere and any regional story will have a lot of domestic coverage, but we are not necessarily beholden to repeat their biases. For reference, even the BBC have displaced this story in favour of the latest update in a racism dispute in county cricket. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 21:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support major incident, leading news story, article decent. Polyamorph (talk) 21:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support (Alt 2). UK terror threat level raised from substantial to severe pushes it over the edge. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:15, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose As suicide in Britain goes, it was unusually public and explosive, but lacks too much death and destruction next to the general public suicide bombings (a similar story from Strathroy-Caradoc#History isn't even an article, for context). InedibleHulk (talk) 23:19, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose -- it's already stopped being news, it seems. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 02:50, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Questionable significance since nothing major [fortunately] did not take place. Gotitbro (talk) 07:12, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as the investigation has not been completed and it has not been confirmed yet whether it was terrorism, whether the detonation was intentional or accidental, or who the intended victim or victims might to have been. The current article contains too much opinion, innuendo, and speculation portrayed as fact. -- DeFacto (talk). 07:38, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• By all means mark any "opinion, innuendo, and speculation portrayed as fact" and/or take to the talk page. Opinion is generally permitted if it's clearly attributed? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Very Strong Oppose Per WP:Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, we are supposed to be an encyclopedia, and we are NOT supposed to be a dangerous free publicity machine for every murderous suicidal nutter, still less for every would-be terrorist and every terrorist organisation. So a terrorist incident should be truly exceptional and notable before appearing on our front page, all the more so as it is often liable to remain there giving dangerous free publicity (and thus in practice encouragement) to terrorists and other murderous nutters long after it has disappeared from the front pages of other mainstream Western news outlets (as many terrorists probably already realize, even if many editors around here seemingly don't). There is NOTHING in this incident that gives it the required exceptionality and notability to justify the danger this poses to innocent people, as well as the damage it might (rightly in my view) do to our reputation. Tlhslobus (talk) 18:15, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  See WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Your diatribe is interesting, but nothing to do with ITNC, otherwise we'd never publish another mass shooting in the US ever again. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:27, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose No lasting effect plus terrible disjointed article means it's a No from me, Bob. Black Kite (talk) 18:23, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose The story stopped trending yesterday, and the death/injury toll is very low (luckily). If attacks of this kind were rare in the UK I would be willing to overlook these factors, but (unfortunately) there's been a seemingly-steady uptick in the last couple of years, so there's nothing about this that makes it stand out. Mount Patagonia (talk) 18:27, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  But the satellite blow-up stopped trending 36 hours ago and no-one died. Terror attacks where bombs are ignited on Remembrance Day are few and far between, I'm sure you can point me to the last time that happened, right? The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:29, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  I was referencing upticks in UK-based terror attacks in general, not ones falling on Rememberance Day. If terror attacks that fell on special occasions were automatic shoe-ins, then last year's Christmas bombing in Nashville would have been posted, but it wasn't for the same reasons I'm opposing posting this story. For the Russian satellite, take it up with the people for voted for it because I had no involvement in that decision. Mount Patagonia (talk) 22:06, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, terror attacks often happen on supposedly significant days or dates (sometimes perhaps coincidentally, sometimes perhaps as part of an attempt to increase the attack's psychological impact, or perhaps sometimes for quasi-religious reasons). Not only do we not use this as an excuse to put it into ITN, we sometimes leave it out of the article as well. For instance it was 5 years before Wikipedia mentioned that the Bataclan attacks occurred on Friday the 13th and there is still no link from it to the article about the superstition, presumably because RS don't mention such a link (perhaps to avoid making vulnerable people more fearful or otherwise psychologically distressed or harmed whenever 'significant' dates approach). Tlhslobus (talk) 15:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment we don't need to name the perp in any of the blurbs. That's totally undue. Get a grip people. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  I've been bold and removed the name of the perp. We don't need that, even if this isn't posted, anywhere near this encyclopedia. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:17, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• The name of the perpetrator is encyclopedic and should be in the article; but I agree that it should not be posted in ITN regardless. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 00:14, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose No victims and unclear / unorganised motive. Belugsump (talk) 03:44, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Limited significance. No longer in the news. – Sca (talk) 13:06, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Better suited to DYK.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:36, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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T20 World Cup

Article: 2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In cricket, the T20 World Cup concludes with Australia defeating New Zealand in the final (Post)
News source(s): BBC Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Modest Genius (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Chandraach (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I'm not keen on T20, but this is ITNR. Prose summaries of both innings are present though are currently unreferenced. It doesn't seem at all controversial though, so should be easy to source from a few match reports (such as those linked above). Modest Genius ^talk 12:33, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment the table in "Road to the final" section is ugly- couldn't this just be done in a paragraph of text, as in 2016 article? Joseph2302 (talk) 14:36, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

  Agree. It's also not compliant with MOS:ACCESS since it contains nested tables. This should be fixed before it's posted on the main page.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

  MOS:DTAB is a laudable goal, but not one of the WP:ITNCRIT. It's probably moot though, as no improvements to the article have been made in the last 3 days. Modest Genius ^talk 11:36, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

  While articles on topics such as sporting events and economics lend themselves to tables of numbers, updates must be at least in part written in prose to qualify for ITN consideration. That isn't the case here, as the section in question is using ugly nested tables rather than prose (like I suggested doing days ago). Joseph2302 (talk) 11:39, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Etel Adnan

Article: Etel Adnan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Distingué Traces (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Tuckerlieberman (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lebanese-American poet, essayist, and visual artist TJMSmith (talk) 01:17, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose A number of cite tags need to be fixed.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:24, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bertie Auld

Article: Bertie Auld (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Joseywales1961 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Celtic, Birmingham and Scotland player and European Cup winner in 1967 with Celtic. Needs some citations which I’ll try and sort in the morning (if someone wants to fix in the meantime please do) JW 1961 ^Talk 20:21, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Missing citations added now, should be ok JW 1961 ^Talk 08:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ref 10 (FitbaStats) is a reliable source. —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:34, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Hi Bloom6132, it's not listed at Deprecated Sources or Perennial Sources, neither does Cite Highlighter mark it red and so I would assume it's ok (I'm of course open to correction) JW 1961 ^Talk 14:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Update Reference the fitbastats ref (as of now number 16) and which references his overall Celtic honours - I have supplemented this with individual cites for the trophies/competitions so it is now really redundant JW 1961 ^Talk 23:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:13, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 03:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Indigo Partners orders 255 Airbus A321 jets

Consensus will not develop to post. --Masem (t) 18:23, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Indigo Partners (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Indigo Partners orders 255 Airbus A321 jets. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 Count Iblis (talk) 17:24, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Good for Airbus, but what makes this an ITN story? --Tone 17:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Suggest snow close. This is barely even 'news' 2405:201:4013:815B:A828:E291:B9B5:4B09 (talk) 17:42, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose one of the less ITN-worthy nominations of this nominator. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 17:43, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Below the radar. – Sca (talk) 17:47, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Newsworthiness aside, a single-sentence update to a stub won't be enough for ITN. --PFHLai (talk) 18:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

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November 13

Portal:Current events/2021 November 13

November 13, 2021 (2021-11-13) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Afghanistan conflict A magnetic bomb attached to a minivan explodes in Dasht-e-Barachi, a predominantly Hazara district of Kabul, killing six people and injuring seven others. (Reuters) Syrian civil war Islamic State gunmen ambush a group of soldiers in Masrib, Deir ez-Zor, Syria, killing 13 of them and wounding others. (The New Arab) Tigray War The Ethiopian Human Rights Commission publishes a report accusing the Tigray People's Liberation Front of killing more than 150 civilians in the Amhara Region between July and August. The report states that they were killed for either supporting the federal government or sheltering soldiers. (Al Jazeera) Gunmen ambush a convoy of paramilitary soldiers in Churachandpur, Manipur, India, killing five soldiers and two civilians. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Austria reports a record 13,152 new COVID-19 cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 948,100. (Kurier) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Germany reintroduces free COVID-19 testing for all adults amid a record number of new cases. (The New York Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Greece Greece tightens its guidelines by requiring that no more than one person per nine square meters of floor space be allowed to enter into supermarkets. This new policy was implemented after a proposed policy that would require unvaccinated people to provide a mandatory rapid COVID-19 test in order to enter supermarkets was deemed too difficult to implement. (Ekathimerini) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia reports a record 1,241 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 254,167. The country also surpasses nine million cases of COVID-19. (Azeri Press Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Papua New Guinea New Zealand sends doctors to Papua New Guinea, after Papua New Guinea formally requested international help to combat the worsening COVID-19 situation in the country. (RNZ) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States The U.S. surpasses 47 million cases of COVID-19. (WFTV) 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference At COP26, diplomats from countries around the world reach a major agreement aimed at intensifying global efforts to fight climate change by calling on governments to return next year with stronger plans to curb planet-warming emissions and urging wealthy nations to "at least double" their funding in order to protect poorer nations from the hazards of a warming planet. Some activists are critical of the agreement, as it leaves unresolved the question of how much and how quickly each nation should cut its carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions over the next decade, and it still leaves many developing countries short of the funds that they would need in order to cope with increasing weather disasters. However, the agreement makes reference to fossil fuels and their role in the climate crisis for the first time in the conference's history. (CNN) (The New York Times) International relations 2021 Belarus–European Union border crisis Russian President Vladimir Putin says that the threat made by Belarus to cut their gas supply to Europe would be a breach of the contract with Russia and that such a threat may have been made in a fit of temper by Belarus's president Alexander Lukashenko. (BBC News) Law and crime November 2021 Guayaquil prison riot Sixty-eight inmates are killed and 25 others injured in a prison riot in Guayaquil, Ecuador. (BBC News) Politics and elections Protests over responses to the COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 protests in Australia Thousands of protesters associated with the right-wing United Australia Party march in Melbourne in opposition to vaccine mandates and newly introduced laws in the Victoria State Government which would transfer many pandemic-specific powers from the Chief Health Officer to the Premier and Health Minister. (The Guardian)

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(Posted) RD: Ed Bullins

Article: Ed Bullins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs more sourcing work which I may be able to get to in the next 24–36 hours. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:40, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• I think it's basically ready. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:42, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks fully sourced.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 21:26, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 23:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Joanna Semel Rose

Article: Joanna Semel Rose (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Legacy
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by Yorker (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American art patron and collector, publisher, and philanthropist. TJMSmith (talk) 00:12, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

• Please add more references. A few paragraphs have no footnotes at all! BTW, please be reminded to nominate this new article for DYK while it is still young enough to qualify. --PFHLai (talk) 23:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Petra Mayer

Article: Petra Mayer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Created by MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Isabelle Belato (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American book review editor and journalist. TJMSmith (talk) 20:53, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• This stubby wikibio is 1482 characters long. Any more to add? --PFHLai (talk) 22:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose 1491 characters is too short to be on the front page. Surely there's more that can be said about her? Joseph2302 (talk) 15:13, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Dubious This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 16:09, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Sam Huff

Article: Sam Huff (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/sam-huff-dead/2021/11/13/493c542c-2e8e-11e6-b5db-e9bc84a2c8e4_story.html
Credits:

• Updated by Dylan620 (talk · give credit) and Dissident93 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American football hall-of-famer. Could use more footnotes, but almost ready for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 18:34, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

RD: Wilbur Smith

Article: Wilbur Smith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Stephen (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Stephen 03:07, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Support – Very widely covered. Comprehensive article looks good. – Sca (talk) 13:37, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support Well-documented novelist. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:25, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment. I am concerned about the sourcing. Lots of references to "wilbursmithbooks.com", lots of references to his autobio On Leopard Rock without corresponding secondary sources, tons of references to other books he's written. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:35, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I don't see as many cites to the website (now?) but I do agree that his writing career section is a bit too heavily reliant on his autobio. It is reasonable for a writer like Smith to use his autobio to fill in gaps from other reliable sourcing, but it shouldn't be as heavily used for the "First Novels" section, for example. --Masem (t) 22:17, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• This wikibio has about 20 {cn} tags. Please add more refs. --PFHLai (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Glasgow Climate Pact

Article: Glasgow Climate Pact (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Governments agree to the Glasgow Climate Pact at COP26, which includes a "phase-down" of coal. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​197 countries and territories agree to the Glasgow Climate Pact at COP26.
Alternative blurb II: ​The Glasgow Climate Pact is agreed at COP26 to attempt to limit the rise in global temperatures by 1.5°C.
News source(s): BBC, NYT, ABC, AP, Guardian, Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by JMonkey2006 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The Paris Agreement was posted after COP21 concluded. This agreement is the same, if not more important for global climate action. JMonkey2006 (talk) 01:45, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Glasgow Climate Pact obviously isn't remotely close to being front-page quality, and 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference doesn't say what happened either. Once this is updated, I will probably support on importance. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 02:52, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose there's at least enough article to vote. Article still has issues; the "Pledges" section is describing things agreed at the conference that don't appear to be specifically part of the "Glasgow Climate Pact", and the link to Wikisource isn't broken. As far as importance ... we posted the conference once, and the biggest news is that there are plans to decrease coal usage ... this isn't worth posting again. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 01:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support – in principle ... pending updating and succinct revision of 2021 climate conference article. It would be very odd not to blurb this universally covered confab, now over. – Sca (talk) 13:44, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment That we already posted the COP26 earlier, and that the general impression of the Glasgow Pact that I get from sources is that it is far less as a milestone compared to the Paris Agreements (since it basically affirms commitment to them) makes me wonder if this is really that significant to post a second time. --Masem (t) 14:23, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  Au contraire. Despite disappointments, 'world leaders' said to "broadly welcome" the climate deal, which "for the first time targeted fossil fuels." At least they did something. Prominently covered by every major RS site. – Sca (talk) 15:28, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  That sentence wasn't over. First time targeting fossil fuels "as the key driver of global warming". Whatever that means. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Resistance is futile. "In asking nations to set tougher targets by next year for cutting climate-warming emissions, the agreement effectively acknowledged that commitments were still inadequate. National pledges currently have the world on track for about 2.4C of warming." The article quality outlook is also dire. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:38, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  We're not here to judge the work of the conferees. We're here to take note a very heavily covered, extended international conference that was widely and prominently covered. Do I think the so-called climate pact will solve global warming? No (although it might be a move in the right direction). What you or I think of it doesn't matter. What matters is, it was/is very much in the news, and the topic is hugely significant. – Sca (talk) 17:32, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  The work of the conferees is the topic. If the news reports the commitments made therein as inadequate, it's not hugely significant in the broader and more newsworthy topic area of global warming prevention. This running conference is just in the news because it was long expected to end today somehow. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:45, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  Nope. Even if they had done nothing it would be significant for reasons outlined above. – Sca (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  I respectfully disagree. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

  If we hadn't posted the COP26 thing earlier, I would have been fine with posting this as an ending point as generally the overall conference was in the news. But given that we already did and this new piece is not a major piece of environmental commitment compared to the Paris Agreement, double posting this is just not appropriate. --Masem (t) 22:25, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose article is short and unsourced in places. Also, given the Paris Agreement exists, it seems the impact of this is minimal (limited only to reducing coal). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:00, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support on the merits; it's unusual for 197 countries to agree to any single document, even if largely a statement of principles or desires. But agree it is not yet suitable for posting. 331dot (talk) 10:02, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
  • It should be pointed out that not all 190-some signing countries are committed to the same parts of the document: for example, only 40+ are on board with coal reduction. Hence why this is far less impactful as the Paris Agreements. --Masem (t) 13:41, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Support original blurb in principle, oppose on quality. The pact is a bit of a damp squib, far less ambitious than expected or required. However we're not here to judge the outcome, just whether it meets the ITN criteria. This is certainly in the news, at or near the top of every quality media outlet. However the pact article is barely a start class and needs some major TLC before being postable. I considered bolding the COP26 article again, but its 'outcomes' section is in even worse state. Modest Genius ^talk 12:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Conspicuous omission from ITN blurb box. – Sca (talk) 13:05, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Sca As several users have noted, there are quality issues preventing posting. If you want to see it posted, you are welcome to fix those issues. 331dot (talk) 13:43, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Sca In what sense? The article is not good enough for front page quality (as ITN isn't OTD, which likes to post poorly sourced articles), and there's no consensus to post it anyway, as they don't seem to have all agreed anything (as different countries signed different agreements). If you want news pushed out as fast as possible, use a news website. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

"likes"? Oh, come on. Be nice to our colleagues and neighbours on MainPage. They are rather understaffed there in SA/OTD. It's more like "less than ideal stuff sneaking through too often". But I'm off-topic... --PFHLai (talk) 14:32, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - given that we already posted the COP26 once, and the headline agreement doesn't appear to be a huge step forward, I don't see a need to post it again. Maybe next time we can hold off posting the opening of such events so that we can capture a one-time interesting headline for readers.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:09, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Getting stale. – Sca (talk) 15:26, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Stale. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 13:11, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

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