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This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Asteroid 101955 Bennu The sample-return spacecraft OSIRIS-REx arrives at the asteroid 101955 Bennu (pictured). Former U.S. President George H. W. Bush dies at the age of 94. Magnus Carlsen defeats Fabiano Caruana to retain the World Chess Championship. NASA's InSight successfully lands on Mars. Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko declares martial law after Russian forces seize three ships in the disputed Kerch Strait near Crimea. Ongoing: Yellow vests movement Recent deaths: Robert Bergland Lyudmila Alexeyeva Belisario Betancur Larry Hennig view - page history - related changes - edit

How to nominate an item In order to suggest a candidate: Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated. Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated) in UTC. Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Remember, we use UTC dates. Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so. Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense. Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting. Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page. There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN. Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template. Headers Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active. Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header. Voicing an opinion on an item Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated. Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so. The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page. Please do not... ... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached. ... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive. ... accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN. ... comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s). ... oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)

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December 10

Portal:Current events/2018 December 10
Current events of December 10, 2018 (2018-12-10) (Monday)

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December 9

Portal:Current events/2018 December 9

Current events of December 9, 2018 (2018-12-09) (Sunday) Disasters and accidents A helicopter crash in eastern Sudan kills Al-Qadarif state governor Mirghani Saleh and at least four other officials. (BBC) Severe winter storms in the southeastern United States kill one person and leave 310,000 others without power. (Reuters) Health and environment A beaver is seen in Northern Italy on camera, a species that has not been seen in the country since 1471. (CBC) Politics and elections 2018 Armenian parliamentary election Armenian citizens vote in the country's first ever snap election and the first one since the Velvet Revolution. (VOA) Sports 2018 UK Championship Ronnie O'Sullivan wins a record seventh UK Championship snooker title after defeating Mark Allen 10–6 in the final at the Barbican Centre, York. (BBC) 2018 NFL season In American football, Larry Fitzgerald of the Arizona Cardinals passes Jerry Rice to become the all-time receptions leader with one team. (USA Today) 2018 Libertadores Cup In international football, River Plate win the Copa Libertadores by beating Boca Juniors 3–1 in extra-time (aggregate score 5–3). The final is played at the Bernabéu stadium in Madrid. (BBC)

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2018 Copa Libertadores

Article: 2018 Copa Libertadores Finals (talk, history)
Blurb: ​In association football, the Copa Libertadores concludes with River Plate defeating Boca Juniors in the finals.
News source(s): The Guardian
Nominator: SounderBruce (talk • give credit)
Updater: S.A. Julio (talk • give credit)
Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

Nominator's comments: Beyond being an ITNR and promoting geographic diversity, this final has been one of the top sports stories of the year due to the delays/change of venue for the second leg. SounderBruce 22:03, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support – Article seems to have been updated after the match with the latest developments. Clearly a very notable game. MX (✉ • ✎) 22:47, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose No importance. We shouldn't post every single league from every end of the world to the ITN, otherwise the ITN would be flooded with sports news and not much else. Openlydialectic (talk) 23:43, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
  • As an ITNR item, the event's merits should not be discussed here, only the content and worthiness of the article in its current state. Besides that, this is the second-largest continental club competition by revenue/viewership, eclipsing a lot of American sports championships, so perhaps you should check your biases before declaring it to be of no importance. SounderBruce 23:50, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
    • I am pretty sure there's no rule against re-starting a discussion about why this particular item got into the ITNR in the first place. Which is exactly what I had done.
    • Also, you giving me a neutrality warning (!!!) for this opinion kinda deprecates everything else you've said after. Goodbye. Openlydialectic (talk) 00:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
      • ITNR discussions belong at WT:ITNR, not in candidate sections per Wikipedia:In the news#Sports and other recurring events. SounderBruce 00:15, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
• Not ready. This should definitely be posted per ITNR, but there's no prose summary of the matches. Lots of material on the incidents surrounding the event doesn't make up for having no description of the actual sporting contests. Needs at least a paragraph each of fully-referenced prose on both legs. Modest Genius ^talk 00:34, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Robert Bergland

Article: Robert Bergland (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The New York Times
Nominator: TDKR Chicago 101 (talk • give credit)
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Updated and well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:33, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 22:19, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

December 8

Portal:Current events/2018 December 8

Current events of December 8, 2018 (2018-12-08) (Saturday) Disasters and accidents Corinaldo stampede Six people are killed and dozens more injured in a human stampede as frantic concertgoers try to exit a packed Lanterna Azzurra club in Corinaldo in Ancona Province, Marche, Italy, after pepper spray is reportedly fired inside the club. (BBC) Two buses crash head-on on a highway in Achacachi, Bolivia, leaving at least 17 people dead and 10 injured. (New Zealand Herald) Politics and elections Presidency of Donald Trump White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly is set to resign by the end of the month according to U.S. President Donald Trump. (CNN) President Trump announces his nomination of army general Mark A. Milley to succeed marine general Joseph Dunford as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (Reuters) Yellow vests movement 125,000 people demonstrate across France, according to the Minister of the Interior, with about 89,000 police officers on duty. 1,385 people are detained. Tear gas and pepper spray are used against the protesters and 135 people are injured. (Al Jazeera) (CBC) Federal Government of Belgium Prime Minister Charles Michel says that the New Flemish Alliance (N-VA) party quits the coalition. N-VA cites its disagreement over the signing of the United Nations Global Compact for Migration. Michel plans to continue with a minority cabinet until the next scheduled election. (Het Laatste Nieuws) (Channel News Asia) Science and technology The ULA launch of a Delta IV Heavy rocket carrying the NROL-71 mission is called off 7 seconds before liftoff time. (NBC San Diego) (NASA Spaceflight) Sports In its second season, Atlanta United FC wins the MLS Cup, defeating the Portland Timbers 2–0 in front of a record crowd of 73,019 at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia. (The Guardian)

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RD: Rod Jones

Article: Rod Jones (tight end) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Seattle times (among others)
Nominator: DannyS712 (talk • give credit)
Article updated
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

 DannyS712 (talk) 05:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Actually not ready for mainpage. Very stubby. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:32, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@Ammarpad: I've expanded it some more. --DannyS712 (talk) 06:51, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Changed to weak support. It's now stub, at less than 180 words it can be read within 45 seconds by average reader. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:37, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

• Weak Support - Per assume good faith. Start class. Fully sourced.BabbaQ (talk) 09:52, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

(Closed) 2018 MLS Cup

Consensus will not develop to post. Stephen 04:20, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: MLS Cup 2018 (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Atlanta United FC wins the MLS Cup 2018
News source(s): [1] [2]
Nominator: LaserLegs (talk • give credit)
Updater: SounderBruce (talk • give credit)
Article updated

Nominator's comments: Atlanta United FC wins the MLS cup in only their second season. Top of field soccer tournament in the worlds third largest country. Article has prose updates, referenced. LaserLegs (talk) 13:03, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

• Comment – In the U.S., MLS is widely understood as referring to the Multiple Listing Service of the real estate industry. Sca (talk) 14:23, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Maybe in the real estate business, but MLS redirects to Major League Soccer. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:48, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. We already post 7 football stories each year (per WP:ITNR), and this is not one of the top trophies in the sport. MLS is somewhere around the 10th best domestic league. The last time this was discussed MLS wasn't even mentioned as a possibility for a domestic league, and LaserLegs themselves felt we already over-represented the topic. Just not important enough. Modest Genius ^talk 16:56, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

  Yes we post a lot of European soccer, this one isn't in Europe. ITN/R discussion irrelevant. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:02, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose I generally don't support posting even the conclusion of the top domestic leagues that garner a lot more attention worldwide than the MLS. This is perhaps a good-faith nomination far from being sufficiently notable for posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:51, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose MLS is not at the level where it warrants ITNR coverage, unfortunately. It will take a few years of clear dominance at the continental level and domestically when competing with other sports leagues before it should be considered. SounderBruce 19:04, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support Article is good shape and MLS is one of the major leagues in US.--SirEdimon (talk) 19:06, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. We cannot post the conclusion of every domestic sports league in every country (we'd post little else), and so we have to draw the line somewhere. For me that means we should only post the most significant domestic leagues in the most significant sports. While football (soccer) is clearly one of the internationally most significant sports, MLS is not in the top tier of domestic football leagues (it's third tier at best) and it's not in the top tier of US domestic sports leagues (it's second tier at best) so it doesn't make the cut. Thryduulf (talk) 19:15, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - MLS isn't even arguably the best soccer league in North America, nor is it at the tier of other leagues that are on ITN:R as per other commenters. --PlasmaTwa2 20:35, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose I think we've got the balance about right at the moment on ITNR football stories. Given that we don't post the results of leagues that are clearly higher tier than MLS (i.e. Brazil Série A, broadcast in half the countries of world, Serie A or Ligue 1), this is clearly a non-runner. Black Kite (talk) 20:49, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
  • The "right balance" is 3 European domestic leagues and none from anywhere else? --LaserLegs (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Comment my disdain for soccer is known to a few -- I live in Atlanta which is how I learned about it this year, and the nom is indeed good faith. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:55, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - much and all as my inner football aficionado loves Atlanta's rise to prominence, the MLS is just simply not on the same level as any of the major European leagues, in terms of following or quality, (I would personally have France, Portugal, Netherlands, and Russia ahead of it), and is far behind the size and scope of its competing American leagues. The league is certainly growing, but it is not big enough for ITN yet. Besides, if you are sick of European football, the Copa Libertadores wraps up today too. Stormy clouds (talk) 21:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
  • They filled that stadium to capacity too, which really shocked me considering we're in the deep south. Doomed as this nom is, I hope it gets left open a bit longer so I know what the objections will be going in to next year. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:49, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Never heard of this league. Openlydialectic (talk) 23:42, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
  • This is the first division of the world's most popular sport in the most populous English speaking country. If you can't be bothered to inform yourself on the subject being discussed, stay out of the conversation. ghost 01:00, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Lyudmila Alexeyeva

Article: Lyudmila Alexeyeva (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Dumelow (talk • give credit)
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Russian human rights activist. I am going to try format the refs and add inline citations for the awards. Dumelow (talk) 23:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• Comment Just added a bunch of [citation needed] tags. Also, I feel like the article should at least mention her love for Putin and other weird acts/statements. Openlydialectic (talk) 23:33, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

I've dealt with the citations and added a bit about her meeting with Putin for her 90th birthday. Feel free to expand on this if you have the sources - Dumelow (talk) 23:58, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• Weak Support - notable dissident. Article is fully referenced, but appears incomplete as it has no information before 1968, when she was already 41. -Zanhe (talk) 02:08, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support Looks much better now. Though I think it would be better if that book section is trimmed to list just few publications. We are not catalog. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:33, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support Especially if the lead can be tweaked to remove or rephrase "one of the last Soviet dissidents still active in modern Russia" which seems like an odd thing to write about a deceased person. Yakikaki (talk) 18:35, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support The lead should not be tweaked: it's well-sourced, objective and describes an exceptional personality. That "eulogy" was written in 2004, when she was alive. There's a bit more info on her life before 1968 in the AP article, reference #3. Wakari07 (talk) 19:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
  • I think Yakikaki's concern was the "still active" wording (and it's mine too). Perhaps just "active" or qualifying it with a date "at the time of her death was one of the last..." or "described in 2004 as one of..." or something like that. To me the "still" implies a continuing action, which cannot be the case now she has died. Thryduulf (talk) 19:51, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
    • WP:BOLD, I made it "active". Wakari07 (talk) 19:58, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:13, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

December 7

Portal:Current events/2018 December 7

Current events of December 7, 2018 (2018-12-07) (Friday) International relations European migrant crisis Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) rescue vessel Aquarius 2 ends migrant rescue operations in the Mediterranean Sea, citing sustained attacks on search and rescue by European governments, particularly Italy. (BBC) Law and crime Eleven people die, including five hostages, as armed police battle robbers who had tried to raid two banks in Milagres, Ceará, Brazil. (BBC) Special Counsel investigation (2017–present) American attorney Robert Mueller is set to reveal more details about the Special Counsel investigation as he faces court deadlines in the cases of two men who worked closely with Donald Trump. (Huffington Post) Jamaican reggae artist Buju Banton (Mark Anthony Myrie) is released from a U.S. prison and deported back to Jamaica, after serving 7 years of a 10-year drug charge conviction. (Tampa Bay Times) Charlottesville car attack A jury finds James Alex Fields guilty of the murder, in the first degree, of Heather Heyer at a 2017 white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. (Al Jazeera) Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou attends a bail hearing in Vancouver while she awaits extradition to the United States. She is charged by Canadian and American prosecutors with conspiracy to defraud multiple financial institutions in order to commit evasion of United States sanctions against Iran so as to conduct business with Iran. (Reuters) Politics and elections Political appointments by Donald Trump U.S. President Donald Trump nominates William Barr to be the new United States Attorney General, a position he held under George H. W. Bush from 1991 to 1993. Heather Nauert, a former journalist and the incumbent Spokesperson for the United States Department of State, is proposed as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. (BBC) (Reuters) Christian Democratic Union of Germany leadership election, 2018 Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer succeeds Angela Merkel as the new chairperson of the Christian Democratic Union, one of the major political parties in Germany. (The Guardian) Science and technology Discoveries of exoplanets Scientists from the University of Geneva announce that a previously-known Neptune-sized exoplanet, HAT-P-11b, has a slowly-escaping helium atmosphere. (International Business Times) (Phys.org) Chinese Lunar Exploration Program The China National Space Administration successfully launches Chang'e 4 from Xichang Satellite Launch Center which will attempt the first ever robotic landing on the far side of the Moon in 2019. (BBC)

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(Posted) RD: Belisario Betancur

Article: Belisario Betancur (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): CNN in Spanish
Nominator: EternalNomad (talk • give credit)
Updater: TDKR Chicago 101 (talk • give credit)
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is updated and well-sourced. EternalNomad (talk) 21:52, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support I well sourced the article to make sure it would be ITN ready. Beat me to it! --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:33, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support - sourced and readyBabbaQ (talk) 00:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support meets RD requirements, updated and sourced --DannyS712 (talk) 02:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Posted – Muboshgu (talk) 19:25, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer becomes leader of CDU

Article: Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer (talk, history)
Blurb: ​After the CDU leadership election Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer succeeds Angela Merkel as chairperson of the party in Germany.
Nominator: Kirbanzo (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: Pretty large development, considering Merkel was party leader for 18 years until this happened, which may warrant a blurb. Article(s) are of sufficient quality as well. Kirbanzo (talk) 21:49, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Question: Does this qualify as ITN/R? See Wikipedia:In the news/Recurring items#Elections and heads of state --DannyS712 (talk) 22:05, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  I don't think so. If election of a head of a major party (which is, you know, isn't even a governmental post) in a 80-something million country qualifies for the ITN, I don't know how elections of actual governors in 100- and 200- million provinces across India and China should not. And that's a very slippery slope. Oppose. Openlydialectic (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Obviously if she had replaced Merkel as Chancellor, that would be ITN/R, but she hasn't, she's only replaced her as the head of the CDU. The next election for Chancellor isn't until 2021. Black Kite (talk) 00:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Comment In the 69 years that germany has their own government the CDU was 49 years of it in power as the ruling party. In these 49 years the chairman of the CDU has always been the cancellor until today. Its safe to say that the party voted today its cancellor candidate for the Next German federal election, as Angela Merkel resigns with the end of the current legislative period in 2021. Opinion If there is not any political news for saturday that is more history-laden than the CDU election, there is not much against it to show this news at the main page for one day. LennBr (talk) 00:59, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Actually that's all rather WP:CRYSTAL. AKK could be Chancellor even before the next election if Merkel retires and/or is forced out, tho even that isn't guaranteed given that CDU+CSU have no majority in Parliament. It is NOT 'safe to say that the party voted today its Chancellor candidate for the Next German federal election' (which is not due until 2021) - she could easily be replaced if she does poorly in opinion polls, or gets caught up in some scandal, or falls ill (or dies), or whatever - and in 1980 the Chancellor candidate for the right was CSU leader Franz Josef Strauss, not CDU leader Helmut Kohl, and this could happen again, especially if AKK's similarity to Merkel comes to be seen as an electoral liability, and/or if the CSU leader is seen as better placed to prevent CDU/CSU voters switching to the AfD. And it's not easy to win an election after your party has been in office for 16 years and your previous leader is retiring because voters seem tired of her and you are seen as very similar to her, so being CDU/CSU Chancellor candidate may not mean all that much in 2021. (Of course this is arguably also all a bit WP:CRYSTAL on my part, but then somebody seemingly ought to try to point out some of the apparent inaccuracies in the previous comment). Tlhslobus (talk) 05:14, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose – Important though it is for the EU, it's domestic politics. Sca (talk) 02:31, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

It's not even clear that it is important for the EU unless and until she becomes Chancellor (and even then it should be rather trivial for the EU compared to things like Brexit (let alone Climate change, etc)).Tlhslobus (talk) 05:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

In a general sense, high-level German political change is important to the EU, as Germany is the EU's most populous state and its leading economy. But yes, if she were to become Kanzlerin that would be blurbable. Sca (talk) 14:25, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose As noted above, domestic politics. Would be blurbed when she actually becomes the chancellor. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. If/when she replaces Merkel as Chancellor of Germany, then I will support a blurb. Unless & until that happens, this is just internal leadership of one political party. Modest Genius ^talk 00:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose As above, this is currently just a change in leadership of the party, not the chancellor. Hrodvarsson (talk) 02:50, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

December 6

Portal:Current events/2018 December 6

Current events of December 6, 2018 (2018-12-06) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks A car bomb explodes near a police post in Chabahar, Iran. Two police officers are pronounced dead and around 40 people were wounded in the attack. Islamic militant group Ansar Al-Furqan claims responsibility. Iran accuses the perpetrators of being "foreign-backed terrorists". (Middle East Eye) Arts and culture The Game Awards 2018 God of War is named Game of the Year at The Game Awards annual awards ceremony in Los Angeles. (The Telegraph) Disasters and accidents Two U.S. Marine aircraft from Iwakuni air base crash off the coast of Shikoku, Japan, during a mid-air refueling. One serviceman is rescued by Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force, while one is found dead and five are still reported missing. (The Japan Times) International relations A U.S.-sponsored resolution to condemn Hamas fails to get adopted at the United Nations General Assembly. (AP via Minneapolis Star Tribune) Law and crime The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs demands that Canada and the United States clarify the reasons behind the arrest of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou, also asking for her immediate release. (The Guardian) December 2018 Time Warner Center bomb threats CNN evacuates the Time Warner Center in New York City during CNN Tonight with Don Lemon after a bomb threat was called into the building. (CNN) (Variety) Politics and elections Afghan parliamentary election, 2018 Afghanistan’s Electoral Complaints Commission declares all votes cast in Kabul Province to be invalid due to voter fraud and other cases of mismanagement. (Reuters) Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush Former U.S. President George H. W. Bush is laid to rest at his Presidential Library in College Station, Texas. (NBC News) Yellow vests movement The French police union Vigi calls on police officers to begin an indefinite strike on December 8 and join anti-government protesters, noting that "a majority of the French continue to back the movement". (Sputnik News) Major landmarks such as the Eiffel Tower and the Louvre are to shut down amid expected protests this weekend. (The Guardian)

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2018 Chabahar suicide bombing

Article: 2018 Chabahar suicide bombing (talk, history)
Blurb: ​In Chabahar; Iran, 4 policemen are killed and 48 others injured including women and children by a suicide bombing of Ansar Al-Furqan group
Alternative blurb: ​In Chabahar; Iran, 4 police officers are killed and 48 others injured by a suicide bombing of Ansar Al-Furqan group
News source(s): the guardianreuters
Nominator: Saff V. (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: a suicide bombing with High number of casualties (48 people) including women and children Saff V. (talk) 06:13, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose - if this had been a school shooting, or a bombing elsewhere in the general region it almost certainly wouldn't pass. Juxlos (talk) 13:11, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose another collapsing regime in the region. Not important. Openlydialectic (talk) 14:41, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

You'd better review Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, specially see WP:NOTBLOG. Saff V. (talk) 06:33, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

• Wow, regarding the two callous responses above. I could support this, but it is a stub at present. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• I mean, it's a bad thing and all, yes, but if a school shooting killed a single digit number in the US it has a 90% chance of failing ITN. Bombings in Kabul don't even get nominated half the time. Juxlos (talk) 18:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose terrorist attacks in Iran are not nearly as common as they are in the over-represented failed state of Pakistan, but the article is a little bit short even for the barely-above-stub standard we've come to accept for our usual disaster porn articles. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:16, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

It's an ongoing event, by passing the time, information will be collected, subsequently article will include more deteils.Any way if it is neccesary, I would ask Mhhossein to give it try and provide more information into the article.Saff V. (talk) 06:42, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the belated response. I'll add some more data to the article. But for now, I should say that the toll is not accurate. Most of the sources, are saying at least 2 people were killed, while the article is showing something else.--Mhhossein ^talk 18:31, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

The Game Awards 2018

Article: The Game Awards 2018 (talk, history)
Blurb: ​God of War wins Game of the Year and Red Dead Redemption 2 wins in four categories at the The Game Awards 2018.
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter Variety
Nominator: Openlydialectic (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: First time ever nomination of this event or any video game award ceremony in general. The article's in a good shape, and so are the two video game ones. The one about the God of War is actually a Good Article, and the Red Dead is in the process of becoming one. About time we start putting the gaming Oscars in the ITN. Openlydialectic (talk) 07:09, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support - I don't see any reason not to, considering the vast amount of media coverage the event got. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 07:50, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support - I think widening the scope of award shows at ITN is good. Article is ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 08:58, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Wait This isn't really a support or oppose opinion. Merely that, with something like this, let's wait for a full consensus to develop, otherwise I can well see it devolving into a pull or not pull debate if it's put up too quickly. 88.215.17.228 (talk) 09:13, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Weak oppose The Game Awards were established in 2014, just 4 years ago, so I'm not sure about its prestige and importance as the highest achievement in video game industry. Brandmeister^talk 10:06, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

The Video Game Awards bore out from the Spike Video Game Awards which started in 2003. Same core organizer but who wanted to get from Spike TV over commercialism. --Masem (t) 11:00, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Strong oppose I do not see this as being particularly notable in the grand scheme of ITN.--WaltCip (talk) 12:00, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  @WaltCip: I am pretty sure that ITN exist so that people could provide arguments for and against their position, and not just state "this is not important" or "I do not see this as being particularly notable in the grand scheme of ITN". Also, since you're saying this, do I understand that right that you then do consider various horse racing events and other local Canadian hockey championships - that we do post here - to be "important" in "the grand scheme of things"? Openlydialectic (talk) 22:24, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  I've stated my position. This is not notable. There's nothing to establish its notability as an award show in comparison to other gaming award shows.--WaltCip (talk) 00:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

  No, you just baselessly made a vote without explaining why you voted in a way that you did, which goes against the WP:NOTVOTE rule. Good luck.

• Question. I'm not opposed to having some form of games awards on ITN, but we should restrict blurbs to the most prestigious award ceremony. Are the Game Awards more important in the field than the Golden Joystick Awards, BAFTA Game Awards or Game Developers Choice Awards? Modest Genius ^talk 12:26, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
  • We post several film awards, I'd be ok with several game awards which are both in the news and have a quality update. We've not had that problem yet, IIRC this is the first game award of any sort nominated of any sort. One reason I'm supporting this is I actually saw it "in the news". --LaserLegs (talk) 14:57, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Golden Joysticks are fully audience voted, so generally not top. Whereas the weight difference between this, BAFTA, and GDCA -- this tends to get the on the spot coverage in gaming RSes, while the others get noticed after said events, despite said events also being broadcast/streamed live. Its a perception issue. --Masem (t) 15:09, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
    • It could also be an advertising issue. A lot of companies means a lot of money to throw around. I know the argument goes that we can't deny an item for not being on ITN/R, but there needs to be at least a consensus first that this particular event is noteworthy given we haven't posted it before, because honestly, as a gamer, this is the first I've heard of it.--WaltCip (talk) 18:41, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
      • Completely reasonable, and if you look at the ceremony itself, 50% of it was just promos for new games. That said, the voting jury for the bulk of the awards (not the esports ones) are media outlets, listed here : [3], so I don't see this specific awards as commercially driven. In the case of the GDCA ones, that's run and organized by the industry's trade group so there's a tiny bit of nepotism there. --Masem (t) 20:24, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose There's a potential fallacy here of saying we post awards shows for movies, so not posting for games would be bias (especially given historical disdain for games as an art). The Oscars carry serious juice in Hollywood. Every physicist knows their Nobel winners. There's no evidence that artists or consumers view these as important. ghost 12:59, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  @GreatCaesarsGhost:The 2017 (so, the previous), Game Awards were watched by 18.7 million people. For comparison, the 2018 Oscars were watched by 26.5 million viewers Openlydialectic (talk) 21:56, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose – Per Walt. Lacks significance for a general audience. Sca (talk) 14:01, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support notability for me comes from the industry heavies who hosted and attended the event. Article is as good as any other awards article, is well referenced, and has some prose. We post all kinds of obscure literary, mathematics, architecture, and poetry awards, we should probably post things which do have interest to a general audience like film, television, music and video games. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Weak Support. Going to nitpick the X of Y statement in the nom and point out for the people not familiar with this awards show that it is more like The People’s Choice Awards than the Oscars due to the voting method. The Oscars and similar award shows in its vein votes using a professional committee, whereas this award show uses a combination of a voting jury comprised of professionals (90% weight) + public polling (10% weight with some additional wackiness based on social media sharing). While it has become a significantly more popular event over the years, I wouldn’t say this is a prestigious Oscar/Emmys/Tony Awards/Grammy – style event. All that said, I think this event has grown just enough over the years to have enough notability, general news coverage, and sufficient article quality for ITN. ZettaComposer (talk) 15:12, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Only existed for five years; no reason given why this should be more important than the other events mentioned above; article contains practically no content apart from which new games were advertised at the event, and a list of results. Since there are a number of these awards, it would probably be useful to have a discussion about which are the most notable. If one particular award is seen as the "gaming Oscars", then fine - go for it. But AFAICS this is just another run-of-the-mill awards ceremony. Black Kite (talk) 15:19, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  @Black Kite:The 2017 (so, the previous), Game Awards were watched by 18.7 million people. The largest such ceremony by far For comparison, the 2018 Oscars were watched by 26.5 million viewers Openlydialectic (talk) 21:56, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  • Want to re-stress that before 2014, this event effectively was the Spike Video Game Awards, which started in 2003. There was a falling out between Geoff Keighley, the guy that organizes this, and Spike TV, who wanted entertainment value, so Keighley broke off and made a completely new awards show but based on the same principles that he ran Spike VGAs with. That lineage is recognized in the industry, it just doesn't show up easily on a quick pass of our WP coverage (but its there, I know I've wrote about it). --Masem (t) 20:27, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support - It's already been called "the Oscar of video games" actually, both by players, game creators and specialist and generalist press. The event is young, yes, but grown dramatically, almost five times the number of viewers compared to the first edition and broadcast all over the globe. To this we add live musical performances and guests arrived from multiple branch of entertainment. It does not seem so absurd to have it in ITN. Lone Internaut (talk) 17:03, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Comment Support in principle having Gaming Awards at ITN as an important (despite arguably still being a relatively new) economic, social and cultural phenomenon, despite my not being sufficiently interested to know or care whether these particular awards are the right ones to post. Although I have very little personal interest in video-games myself, some of the opposition expressed here reminds me of the misguided contempt by my ill-informed and complacent 'betters' for things like pop music and Science Fiction which I encountered when young (and which, incidentally, probably did me and others quite a bit of harm at the time in several different ways, but much of it to do with keeping us ill-informed, which is precisely what Wikipedia is meant to combat). Tlhslobus (talk) 17:29, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Which opposition are you referring to? I don't see any comment that video game awards are ig-nobel per se, just that THIS event has not demonstrated notability. ghost 19:12, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• In answer to your question, ghost, it was a (possibly mistaken) impression I got from reading the comments at the time. Perhaps unwisely, I didn't go looking for precise instances, either then or now, to try to minimize the risk that going into specifics might cause individual editors to take it personally and/or get me involved in a debate which I wasn't (and amn't) interested in having. Tlhslobus (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

And having had a further look at it, I notice that there is often a significant difference between the impression conveyed by somebody's initial comment and the more nuanced impression conveyed once opponents have forced them to clarify their position (although this is not the case with regard to your own carefully-nuanced initial position). Quite likely much the same could also have been said about attitudes to things like pop music and Science Fiction when I was young, if such attitudes had been expressed on a forum such as this, had such a forum been available at the time. Incidentally much the same seems actually also true of the Ig Nobel Prize mentioned by you in your question - it seemingly began as ridicule pure and simple, but is now at least officially the more nuanced 'research that first makes you laugh, and then makes you think' (or some similar wording, which presumably among other things conveniently allows its organizers to deny all sorts of criticisms, such as that such a prize would have been used to ridicule Copernicus and Darwin in their day, etc). Tlhslobus (talk) 17:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• • • Which is weird because the show has gotten vast media coverage, even outside of the general gaming publications. New York Times, LA Times, and USA Today have all written about the event in some capacity. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 19:35, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
      • And those said by Dissident are just few, there are others all around the world in foreign language for example. I mean, hard to say TGA didn't have resonance. Lone Internaut (talk) 20:18, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support: Nowadays the video game industry is much bigger than the film or music industry. Yet we cover all kinds of awards of the latter two, but barely of the video games. It's about time to change that. -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 19:24, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose per Black Kite. No evidence that this is particularly the top event in its field, or majorly renowned.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:43, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  @Amakuru:The 2017 (so, the previous), Game Awards were watched by 18.7 million people. For comparison, the 2018 Oscars were watched by 26.5 million viewers Openlydialectic (talk) 21:56, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose – The The Game Awards seem to hold a relatively contentious role in the video game industry, moreso than the other awards frequently posted on the front page. I would prefer not to present them over other gaming awards, like the aforementioned Golden Joystick Awards, BAFTA Game Awards, or Game Developers Choice Awards. Though The Game Awards try to present themselves as the main award ceremony for video games, I do not believed they have reached that status yet. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 22:02, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  @Maplestrip: I think you just have to be immersed into the industry to know how small these awards are. I wish they announced their viewership numbers, but apparently only The Game Awards do. Openlydialectic (talk) 22:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  These three are certainly less popular, but they are longer-running and more respected. I do not entirely know what the ITN inclusion criteria is for award ceremonies. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 22:09, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

  >they are more respected. I'd disagree. I wish there's a way to verify respectability, but I don't think there is. The only thing I know for sure is that they are both less popular and have far less coverage than the TGA. And I'd argue that this - this influence - is the only thing that matters. The Nobel Peace prize is hardly respectable nowadays, but it's still getting posted because it's widely covered by the media and everyone wants to know who the winner of this award is. Openlydialectic (talk) 22:20, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support - this event has grown in prestige over the years and I think has taken a spot as one of the major nights for the gaming industry. Big-name developers and figures in the industry attend this event, major announcements are made during the show, and as Openlydialectic has pointed out several times it is watched by a large audience. Regarding its importance vis-à-vis other gaming awards, I don't really see that conversation as relevant given there is a lack of evidence about the prestige and importance of those other shows in comparison to these awards. If that conversation is to be had, I think it should be had at ITN:R since a reoccurring post about gaming awards is likely ITN:R material. A decision on which one people want to post about yearly can be made there, but on the presented facts of the Game Awards on their own, I think this should be posted. --PlasmaTwa2 01:06, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose, relatively niche pop-culture interest, and not of huge international or historical importance. WP already has a problem of too much focus on pop culture over more serious and important issues. Video game are really not that important. Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:54, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

As much as I might be opposed to the posting of this particular event, it's probably a bit of a stretch to say that video games are a "niche interest" given that at least this particular event had viewings similar to the Oscars. Outside of Western Europe, the U.S. and Japan, maybe.--WaltCip (talk) 13:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose In response to the comparisons to the Oscars and Grammys, I don't think video games have the same mass appeal as movies and music yet. It will take another 10-20 years or so for that to happen. Also, a good part of the Game Awards was advertising for upcoming games, which makes me take it less seriously as a genuine award ceremony and more of a commercial event. The ceremony is still pretty new and needs some more time to gain a track record. TarkusAB^talk 10:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support because the oldest blurb is pretty old at this point. If we had no shortage of blurbs this might not be significant enough to qualify, but as it is I'm supporting. Banedon (talk) 02:24, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Poe's Law in effect here? Clearly we do not post something because we haven't posted anything in awhile. ghost 20:24, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support Biggest event of year in gaming Тухлопуз (talk) 05:14, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Relatively insignificant awards ceremony. Hrodvarsson (talk) 02:56, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Larry Hennig

Article: Larry Hennig (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Dumelow (talk • give credit)
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Nominator's comments: American wrestler. I added some missing refs and think the article is now adequate - Dumelow (talk) 10:37, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support - Ready.BabbaQ (talk) 10:48, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support. Good to go. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:04, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:54, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• "During this time, Hennig also appeared in the independent film, The Wrestler, where he faced Verne Gagne at the Cow Palace in the opening match." In the opening match of the film or the opening match of the card at the Cow Palace? I would assume the former, but it's unclear from the way it's worded. More importantly, the AWA didn't run shows at the Cow Palace until at least five or six years after the film's release. There was another promotion affiliated with the National Wrestling Alliance which ran the Cow Palace throughout the 1960s and 1970s. The paragraph's only source makes no mention of the film or the match. Speaking of unclear wording, one would assume from the photo and caption that he was making a personal appearance at Domino's Pizza, yet one is left to wonder whether they could have been announcing that they actually hired him to work there. Finally, such a fractured chronology may work for a Tarantino film, but it left me somewhat dizzy. The section "Knee injury" begins by discussing a knee injury, while the section as a whole covers many distinct phases of his career stretching over nearly a decade. Many folks from outside WP:PW have complained over the years that these biographies are really dumping grounds of wrestling trivia and the project's cherry-picked sources. It seems to me that separating everything by wrestling promotion puts too much weight on the promotions themselves at the expense of this being a proper biography. We're rewarding that behavior by placing a link on the main page? Hmmm... For example, Hennig enjoyed a fair amount of success in Japan throughout his career; according to his ja.wiki article, he toured there over a span of nearly two decades. This longevity was mostly due to his connection to Harley Race, who became one of the more beloved gaijin wrestlers long before that became a popular phenomenon. Pro wrestling in Japan receives significant mainstream media attention. I see no reason why that was ignored other than the fact that someone wanted to give undue weight to other things. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Luis Valbuena

Article: Luis Valbuena (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): OC Register
Nominator: Nohomersryan (talk • give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Added some sourcing, article looks generally solid. Nohomersryan (talk) 06:49, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support - Sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 10:49, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support - I would like to include in the nomination José Castillo, if possible, who died alongside Valbuena in a traffic accident. --Jamez42 (talk) 12:12, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Add a new nom for him. BabbaQ (talk) 13:11, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Castillo's article is not in such great shape as of now. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:10, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support Looks good to go. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:01, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 20:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Pete Shelley

Article: Pete Shelley (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC
Nominator: SchroCat (talk • give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Putting down a marker for the moment while I work on filling in the missing cites Now ready, thanks to the several people who turned up to clean, tidy and cite. SchroCat (talk) 21:19, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support Pretty much fully cited now. Black Kite (talk) 00:14, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support - ready.BabbaQ (talk) 00:18, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Comment There are a few LGBT categories on his article, but I don't see them supported in the article. There's a mention of Homosapien being banned by the BBC for the references to gay sex, but nothing to support that Shelley was bisexual. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
  • "It was at this time that Shelley talked about his bisexuality". - SchroCat (talk) 07:52, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
    • I also stuck an extra cite in after that sentence, just to make it clearer. Black Kite (talk) 08:03, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
      • Thanks - I stuck in the Rolling Stone ref for the same reason (but dropped it at the end, as it covers the whole bit). Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 08:05, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
        • Thanks - sorry, I missed that bit. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support. Much improved by SchroCat, This has now been ready for nearly 14 hours? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:58, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
• Posted. Spencer^T•C 14:21, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: José Castillo (infielder)

Unimproved. Stephen 22:10, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

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Article: José Castillo (infielder) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): ESPNCBS
Nominator: Jamez42 (talk • give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Died alongside Luis Valbuena in a traffic accident. Jamez42 (talk) 21:37, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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December 5

Portal:Current events/2018 December 5

Current events of December 5, 2018 (2018-12-05) (Wednesday) Business and economy The deputy governor of Sweden's central bank, the Riksbank, says that the country is likely to become a cashless society within the next three to five years. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Two people died while 18 others are injured when a tank truck caught fire and exploded in the city of Rieti, Italy. (Sky Tg24) Tsunami waves reportedly strike parts of New Caledonia and northern Vanuatu following a magnitude 7.5 earthquake centered near the Loyalty Islands. (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) A search and rescue operation is underway for 7 servicemen after an incident involving a US Marine Corp F/A-18 fighter jet and a KC-130 refueling aircraft off the coast of Japan. (BBC) Law and crime The chief financial officer of Huawei, Meng Wanzhou, was arrested on 1 December in Vancouver, Canada. She faces extradition to the United States. Huawei says she faces unspecified charges. (CNN) Politics and elections Claudia Sheinbaum takes office as Head of Government of Mexico City, becoming the first woman and first Jewish person to serve as Mexico City's mayor. (JTA) Politics of Luxembourg Xavier Bettel is sworn in for a second term as Prime Minister. His coalition government plans to make all public transport completely free by next summer, a world's first. (The Irish Times) Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush The casket for former U.S. President George H. W. Bush arrives at the National Cathedral. (Politico) U.S. President Donald Trump and former U.S. Presidents George W. Bush, Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton attend the ceremony alongside German chancellor Angela Merkel and Britain's Prince Charles. (The Guardian) Science and technology SpaceX successfully launches CRS-16 on its way to the International Space Station. The first stage crashes into the ocean near Cape Canaveral and is later recovered. (Universe Today)

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(Closed) RD: Dynamite Kid

Stale. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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Article: Dynamite Kid (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [4], [5]
Nominator: The C of E (talk • give credit)
Updater: Anant318 (talk • give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Former World Wrestling Federation Tag team champion and one of the most successful British pro-wrestlers  The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:49, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose for now, too many uncited paragraphs - Dumelow (talk) 18:49, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose per Dumelow, too much of it is unreferenced. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:13, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Still drinking the Kool-Aid, I see. The nomination template and WP:ITNRD both make a vague reference to "quality". Every time I come to this page, the discussion frames "quality" solely in terms of the mere existence or non-existence of citations, often without regard for whether they're to reliable sources. This article has at least a few other problems than that. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 01:38, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Well solving one problem at a time seems most logical to me. Cite everything (it's a BLP after all, nothing to do with RD or its nomination template) and then check over for reliable sources. Then check for NPOV and encyclopedic writing. Then consider supporting. Right now, we're on step 1. And I have no idea what Kool-Aid has to do with this. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:26, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

We routinely discuss the use of unreliable sources here. BLPs often cite wikis, personal blogs, and IMDB. But step one of evaluating sources is having sources. ghost 19:25, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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(Closed) GSAT-11

No consensus to post. Stephen 22:04, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

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Article: GSAT-11 (talk, history)
Blurb: ​India's heaviest satellite has gone into orbit on a French rocket to help boost broadband internet services.
News source(s): BBC
Nominator: Sherenk1 (talk • give credit)
Article updated

Nominator's comments: India launches 'heaviest' satellite for internet access. Sherenk1 (talk) 08:05, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose – I'm sure it's no small feat for India, but a relatively unnotable event in international spaceflight, as many satellites with the purpose of aiding telecommunication are launched by various countries and launch service providers on a regular basis. In addition, the GSAT-11 and Ariane flight VA246 articles leave much to be desired. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 12:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. The heaviest satellite by one particular nation is not a particularly noteworthy record. Also, the article is still in future tense, with no prose update since the launch. This might make a good WP:DYK, if it can be sufficiently expanded to qualify there. Modest Genius ^talk 13:06, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose – Article quality is very low and the event itself not notable enough for ITN. Mkwia (talk) 15:11, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose until now I wasn't aware that "heaviest satellite" was even a thing really. Stubby article, not really seeing it as newsworthy, maybe a DYK option. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:15, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

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December 4

Portal:Current events/2018 December 4

Current events of December 4, 2018 (2018-12-04) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Operation Northern Shield Israel announces an operation to clear Hezbollah tunnels from Lebanon-Israeli border. (The Times of Israel) Arts and culture Russians vote to rename the two main airports of Moscow, Sheremetyevo and Domodedovo, after poet Alexander Pushkin and scientist Mikhail Lomonosov, respectively. (TASS) Law and crime The alleged boss of the Cosa Nostra mafia clan is arrested along with 45 suspected accomplices in the province of Palermo, Italy. They are accused of aggravated extortion. (Euronews) Politics and elections Yellow vests movement Following large protests against French President Emmanuel Macron's planned increases on fuel taxes, French Prime Minister Édouard Philippe announces that these plans will be suspended for at least six months. (Bloomberg) Brexit negotiations The Government of the United Kingdom is found to be in contempt of parliament for the first time in history. The motion, which passed by 311 to 293 votes in the House of Commons, was triggered by Theresa May's government failing to publish its legal advice on its Brexit withdrawal plan. (CNN) Frank Scott Jr. is elected Mayor of Little Rock, Arkansas, defeating Baker Kurrus in the runoff. Scott will become the city's first African-American mayor. (USA Today) Sports NHL expansion In ice hockey, the National Hockey League announces that its board of governors unanimously approved a new franchise for Seattle. The new team will start play in the 2021–22 season, bringing the league's membership to 32 teams. (ESPN)

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(Closed) RD: Michael McComie

Stale. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

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Article: Michael McComie (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Dumelow (talk • give credit)
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Trinidadian footballer and coach. A little short perhaps, but I am expanding - Dumelow (talk) 19:32, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

• Weak oppose appreciate the nom's comments, it's still barely above stub for me, everything there is fine, but just not full enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

It was a fair bit larger but my additions were reverted. I am in discussion with the other editor to readd what I think is useful information, but I'll not die in a ditch over it - Dumelow (talk) 20:46, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Understood. I'd move on and ignore. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:15, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

• Weak support Seems the issue has been resolved, the article looks little better now. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:12, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Nika Rurua

Article: Nika Rurua (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Georgia Today
Nominator: TDKR Chicago 101 (talk • give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Has been updated and article is well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:05, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 04:43, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Selma Engel-Wijnberg

Article: Selma Engel-Wijnberg (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NRC.nl
Nominator: TDKR Chicago 101 (talk • give credit)
Article updated
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Has been updated and article is well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:43, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support - Seems ready. sourced. --BabbaQ (talk) 23:28, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:54, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

December 3

Portal:Current events/2018 December 3

Current events of December 3, 2018 (2018-12-03) (Monday) Business and economy Qatar announces that it is withdrawing from OPEC in January 2019, after almost 60 years of membership, to focus on natural gas production. (The Guardian) Law and crime The FBI raids the house of Atlantic City Mayor Frank Gilliam. (New York Times) Politics and elections Death and state funeral of George H. W. Bush The body of former President George H. W. Bush arrives on Special Air Mission from Houston to Washington, DC at the Joint Base Andrews. (ABC News) The United States Postal Service announces it will suspend regular mail deliveries, retail services and administrative office activity on December 5 as part of President Trump's declared national day of mourning. (CNN) 2017-18 Spanish constitutional crisis Jailed Catalan independentists leaders Joaquim Forn and Josep Rull joins Sànchez and Turull in the hunger strike. (Reuters) Science and technology 2018 in spaceflight NASA's space probe OSIRIS-REx arrives at the asteroid Bennu. (The New York Times) Soyuz MS-11 successfully launches from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan carrying Roscosmos cosmonaut Oleg Kononenko, NASA astronaut Anne McClain, and CSA astronaut David Saint-Jacques for Expedition 58 to the International Space Station. (CBC) Sport 2018 Ballon d'Or In association football, Croatian midfielder Luka Modrić wins the Ballon d'Or and becomes the first player other than Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo to win the award since Kaká in 2007. (Reuters) Norwegian striker Ada Hegerberg wins the inaugural Women's Ballon d'Or. (The Guardian)

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(Closed) RD: Wilmer Clemont Fields

Stale, suggest nomination at DYK since it is a new article. Spencer^T•C 20:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

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Article: Wilmer Clemont Fields (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Toalston, Art (December 4, 2018). "W.C. Fields, SBC public relations pioneer, dies at 96". Baptist Press. Retrieved December 4, 2018.; Allen, Bob (December 3, 2018). "W.C. Fields, advocate for a free Baptist press, dead at 96". Baptist News Global. Retrieved December 4, 2018.
Nominator: Zigzig20s (talk • give credit)
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Southern Baptist minister and public relations executive; defender of the freedom of the press Zigzig20s (talk) 06:27, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support Looks good and marking ready, but would probably age off pretty soon. Zigzig20s, because this is a new article, you may want to consider nominating this for DYK. Spencer^T•C 16:42, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Spencer: How long do you anticipate that it would stay on the main page please?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

It already would have aged off; the oldest RD item now has a more recent date of death than Fields. I'm going to go ahead and close this nom and suggest for DYK. Spencer^T•C 20:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support - ready to be posted ASAP.BabbaQ (talk) 18:13, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD:Kim Chol-man

Article: Kim Chol-man (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Dumelow (talk • give credit)
Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: North Korean politician. Article is well cited and seems OK - Dumelow (talk) 19:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support per nom, looks ok.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:29, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support satis. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:33, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:06, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

(Closed) Qatar to leave OPEC

Withdrawn, consensus won't develop to post now. Ideally there will be a good target article to re-nominate on January 1. power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:59, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

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Article: OPEC (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Qatar announces it will withdraw from OPEC on January 1, 2019.
News source(s): Al Jazeera NPR Reuters
Nominator: Power~enwiki (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: There might be too much WP:CRYSTAL to post this now. Some experts suggest it is a continuation of the 2017–18 Qatar diplomatic crisis, others suggest it may lead to the end of OPEC. And as a announcement about something that won't happen officially until next month, it could get stopped. It's also unclear what the bolded article should be. power~enwiki (π, ν) 22:04, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose per nom. When they leave, we should post it. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:09, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose until it officially leaves --DannyS712 (talk) 22:30, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - January is slow for news anyway, so we can post it if Qatar goes through with their decision. Clearly of significant and merit for ITN, but only once it happens. Stormy clouds (talk) 01:33, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose – Let's wait until it actually happens. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 04:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose I'd actually favor posting now, since the story is in the news now, and now is when people will be interested in the related Wikipedia article. However, I don't know what that related Wikipedia article is. I'm not entirely sure which article we are pushing out as the work we are asking our readers to check out. Unless and until we have something to assess the quality of, I don't know what we're supposed to assess. --Jayron32 17:43, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose We should wait until Qatar actually withdraws from OPEC. 18:01, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

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(Posted) OSIRIS-REx arrives at Bennu

Article: OSIRIS-REx (talk, history)
Blurb: ​The OSIRIS-REx sample-return spacecraft arrives at the asteroid 101955 Bennu (pictured)
Alternative blurb: ​The sample-return spacecraft OSIRIS-REx arrives at the asteroid 101955 Bennu (pictured)
News source(s): The New York Times, The Independent, CNN
Nominator: PhilipTerryGraham (talk • give credit)
Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

Nominator's comments: OSIRIS-REx has initiated its primary science campaign as of this evening after, completing its first engine burn in the vicinity of Bennu at ~17:00 UTC. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 17:32, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

• Question has this been independently verified or are we trusting NASA at their word on it? --LaserLegs (talk) 17:56, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of the NASA-lies-about-boring-science-missions conspiracy theory. Perhaps you could enlighten us on it? Of course, your theory would need to be independently verified. Abductive (reasoning) 18:14, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of the Chinese-geneticist-lies-about-gene-therapy conspiracy theory until recently, but it's forced me to call into question the legitimacy of all science news. #trustnoone --LaserLegs (talk) 18:31, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

The trajectory has been a matter of public record ever since it left Earth two years ago. No reliable source has ever expressed the slightest doubt in the position as reported by NASA. They have released imagery proving that the spacecraft was getting close, and the rendezvous process was broadcast live on TV. Besides, this is an engineering achievement, not a scientific result (yet). I suspect you're just being WP:POINTy. Modest Genius ^talk 18:35, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Ya think?! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:41, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

I lean towards WP:AGF. So should you. Modest Genius ^talk 13:09, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

• This counts as WP:ITNR. The article looks good on quality, though we could surely manage more than a one sentence update. I've added an altblurb that avoids WP:SEAOFBLUE and matches the wording we used for Hayabusa2. Modest Genius ^talk 18:35, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support I have added a bit more to explain what this event is (NASA considers this arrival as the unit does not have a usual "touch-down" event) and what will happen before sampling. --Masem (t) 18:53, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
  • I've added both the above still and the animated GIF (File:Asteroid-Bennu-OSIRIS-RExArrival-GifAnimation-20181203.gif) from NASA to the image protection queue. --Masem (t) 19:04, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support has been updated, is significant and ITNR --DannyS712 (talk) 20:24, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
• Support could use the gif for the main page for extra pizazz. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:43, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

• Support Article looks okay. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:03, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:10, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

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