Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Guillermo Lasso Guillermo Lasso (pictured) is elected President of Ecuador. At the British Academy Film Awards, Nomadland wins four awards, including Best Film. In golf, Hideki Matsuyama wins the Masters Tournament. In horse racing, Minella Times wins the Grand National, with Rachael Blackmore becoming the first female jockey to win in the race's 182-year history. The volcano La Soufrière erupts in Saint Vincent, forcing the evacuation of around 20,000 people. Ongoing: COVID-19 pandemic Myanmar protests Recent deaths: Charles Geschke Vartan Gregorian Helen McCrory Andrew Peacock Michel Louvain Vivek view — page history — related changes — edit

How to nominate an item In order to suggest a candidate: Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated. Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so. Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense. Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting. Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page. There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN. Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template. Headers Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active. Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header. Voicing an opinion on an item Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated. Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so. The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page. Please do not... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive. accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN. comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s). oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with the ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)

April 18

Portal:Current events/2021 April 18

Current events of April 18, 2021 (2021-04-18) (Sunday) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India India reports a record 261,500 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 14.78 million. (Hindustan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Israel Israel lifts outdoor mask mandate and fully reopen schools as the number of cases goes down and majority of its population was vaccinated. But masks must still be worn in public places indoors. (The Times of Israel) COVID-19 pandemic in Mongolia Mongolia reports a record 1,340 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 21,995. (AKIPress) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record 1,767 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 42.352. The nationwide death toll also surpasses 100. (Bangkok Post) Law and crime The daughter of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny call on Russian authorities to allow doctors to check her father, a day after doctors warned he could "die within days" from cardiac arrest or kidney failure. Navalny has been on hunger strike since March in protest of prison medical conditions. (Reuters) (BBC) Politics and elections 2021 Cape Verdean parliamentary election Voters in Cape Verde go to the polls to elect new members of the National Assembly. (Africanews)

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April 17

Portal:Current events/2021 April 17

Current events of April 17, 2021 (2021-04-17) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Yemeni Civil War, Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen The Houthis say that they have hit King Khalid Air Base, near the city of Khamis Mushait, in Saudi Arabia, with explosive drones. There was no immediate comment from the Saudi government. (Reuters) Arts and culture Death and funeral of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh The official funeral service for Prince Philip, prince consort of the United Kingdom to Elizabeth II, commences. The Duke's body is led in a limited procession to St. George's Chapel, Windsor Castle, for internment in the Royal Vault. (AP on MSN) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India India reports a record 234,692 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 14.52 million. (Hindustan Times) Prime Minister Narendra Modi makes a televised appeal to pilgrims to keep to "symbolic" celebrations and continue to follow safety guidelines as the festival of Kumbh Mela, a pilgrimage traditionally drawing tens of millions of Hindus to the banks of the Ganges every year, begins. (al-Arabiya English) COVID-19 pandemic in Mongolia Mongolia surpasses 20,000 cases of COVID-19. (Montsame) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand surpasses 40,000 cases of COVID-19. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Tunisia Tunisia announces the closure of all schools and restrictions on movement, which include a 7:00 p.m. curfew for vehicles, until April 30 to reduce the spread of COVID-19. (Reuters) The global death toll from COVID-19 surpasses 3 million. (NPR) International relations Aftermath of the 2021 Myanmar coup d'état A Thai foreign ministry spokesman announces that Burmese junta leader Min Aung Hlaing will attend the next ASEAN Summit on April 24 in Jakarta, Indonesia, marking his first foreign trip since taking power in the February 1 coup that deposed Aung San Suu Kyi and Win Myint. Local junta spokespeople refused to comment. (France24) Foreign relations of the Czech Republic Prime Minister Andrej Babiš announces that the Czech Republic is expelling 18 Russian embassy diplomats who have been identified as spies in a case related to an ammunition warehouse explosion in 2014. (Euronews) Law and crime Rwandan genocide The United States deports Beatrice Munyenyezi to Rwanda after she served her jail term for lying on her U.S. citizenship naturalization process. Upon arrival in Rwanda, Munyenyezi was arrested on charges ranging from murder to complicity in rape during the course of the 1994 genocide. She did not comment during her arrest to local press but had previously denied the accusations while in the United States. (Reuters) Myanmar's State Administration Council pardons and releases more than 23,000 prisoners to mark the Burmese New Year. Those released include an Australian businessman sentenced to 13 years in prison for drug possession, and three members of the Generation Wave pro-democracy movement. (The Guardian) European migrant crisis A court in Sicily orders former Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini to stand trial accused of dereliction of duty and kidnapping for his role in a standoff with a Spanish-flagged migrant rescue ship operated by Proactiva Open Arms that he refused to allow to dock for nineteen days in 2019. A court order allowed the ship to dock after some migrants flung themselves overboard. (The Guardian)

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(Posted) RD: Charles Geschke

Article: Charles Geschke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Adobe press release
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Joofjoof (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Dying (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Co-founder of Adobe Systems Inc. Just announced today. Joofjoof (talk) 07:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Wikipedia page looks good and is well-sourced. Sitaphul (talk) 08:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support RIP, well sourced Vacant0 (talk) 11:28, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support The article is well sourced and has good outlook. Abishe (talk) 11:52, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Looks good. Marking ready. Ktin (talk) 18:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 19:09, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Vivek

Article: Vivek (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of India
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: News just breaking. RIP Vivek. Article might require one pass at ensuring readiness including some citations for the awards. Referencing completed. Seems to meet hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 02:07, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support - Article seems good with a lot of references. Sitaphul (talk) 04:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Good depth of coverage for an actor article; referenced. Could use some minor copy-editing here and there but overall good to go. Spencer^T•C 04:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support per Spencer's comment Vacant0 (talk) 11:30, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support per above EelamStyleZ (talk) 11:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support The subject is highly notable and well sourced. Abishe (talk) 11:52, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Anarchyte (talk • work) 17:06, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Anarchyte, there are several RDs lower down the page with sufficient support to post (two with “Ready” tags on them). Is there a reason this has been posted, but not the others? Thanks. - 109.249.185.34 (talk) 18:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
    • I have gone through and posted 4 RDs below that were supported /marked ready and that had articles that appeared ready to go. --Masem (t) 19:01, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
      • That’s great, thank you very much. - 109.249.185.34 (talk) 19:17, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Kakarla Subba Rao

Article: Kakarla Subba Rao (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ab207 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian radiologist. Padma Shri awardee. A tad on the shorter side. Will work on some edits based on available obits and share an update. Edits done. Article has shaped into a decent C-class biography. Meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 00:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Everything is referenced and the article is a decent length. Uses x (talk • contribs) 02:07, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Just a citation needed needs to be fixed. Working on that now. Sitaphul (talk) 04:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Fixed it, the article seems good to go now. Sitaphul (talk) 04:44, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support All referenced now. Article in good shape. Alexcalamaro (talk) 09:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Funeral of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh

There will be no consensus to post and the discussion is already getting off-topic. Closing. --Tone 17:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Death and funeral of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh's funeral takes place in St George's Chapel at Windsor Castle (Post)
News source(s): CNN, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Aknell4 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: A high-profile member of the British royal family, consort to the Queen. A funeral for a member of the royal family, something rarely seen now. Aknell4 (talk) 16:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Strong oppose Given the issues post-blurb posting of his death, giving coverage of his funeral as a non-royal member is way out of line. --Masem (t) 16:40, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• In what way was Philip a "non royal"? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:45, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• As from previous discussions, he was a consort, not born into blood into the Royal family, and had zero possible chance of assuming any position in the Commonwealth's governance. --Masem (t) 17:05, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Ah yes, a bit like Barbara Bush. Thanks for reminding me. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:08, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Strong oppose we already posted his death, don't need to post his funeral too. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:43, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose and suggest closing. We actually already posted this - the death and funeral article was in the blurb [1], it's just rolled off. P-K3 (talk) 17:03, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose The death was posted as a blurb, that's sufficient. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:11, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

April 16

Portal:Current events/2021 April 16

Current events of April 16, 2021 (2021-04-16) (Friday) Arts and culture Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the arts and cultural heritage, COVID-19 pandemic in India The Archaeological Survey of India closes all monuments, museums, and protected sites until May 15 due to an increase in the number of COVID-19 cases. (The Times of India) Business and economy The Turkish Central Bank bans transactions using cryptocurrencies and crypto assets, citing possible "irreparable damage" and transaction risks to customers. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Russia COVID-19 vaccination in Russia The number of Russians vaccinated against COVID-19 surpasses eight million. (Interfax) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in Scotland Scotland relaxes its COVID-19-related restrictions, allowing non-essential travel around the country and some social gatherings. (BBC) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel receives her first dose of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. (DW) COVID-19 pandemic in Turkey Turkey reports a record 63,082 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 4,150,039. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine receives 117,000 doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine through the COVAX vaccine sharing initiative. (UNICEF) COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario Ontario Premier Doug Ford announces the extension of the stay-at-home order for six weeks until May 20 with a new restrictions, including ban of outdoor gatherings outside the household, as the COVID-19 cases remains high. (CBC) COVID-19 vaccination in Canada Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says that Pfizer will double the amounts of their vaccine shipped to Canada, and also announces that the Canadian Red Cross will be deployed to Ontario to help with COVID-19 vaccinations. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in British Columbia British Columbia Premier John Horgan receives his first dose of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. (Vancouver Sun) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 vaccination in the United States The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that 200 million Americans have received their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. (Bloomberg.com) COVID-19 pandemic in Michigan Michigan extends their restrictions on gatherings and dining to May 24 due to an increase in the number of cases. The state also expands their mask mandate to children. (Detroit Free Press) COVID-19 pandemic in Virginia Virginia reports its first two cases of the Lineage P.1 variant, which originally detected in Brazil. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh Bangladesh reports a record 101 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 10,181. (The National Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in India India reports a record 217,353 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 14.29 million. The country also reports 1,185 deaths, which is the highest daily total since September, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 174,308. (Hindustan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan The government designates Aichi, Kanagawa, Chiba and Saitama prefectures for tougher measures that would require restaurants and bars to close at 8 p.m. between April 20 and May 15. (The Mainichi) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand announces the closure of educational institutions, pubs, bars, karaoke shops, and massage parlours, a ban on alcohol sales at restaurants and a ban on gatherings of more than 50 people, for at least two weeks beginning April 18 due to an increase in the number of COVID-19 cases. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina Argentina reports a record 29,472 cases in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total to 2,658,574 cases. (Clarín) COVID-19 pandemic in Tonga Salote Mafileʻo Pilolevu Tuita, Princess of Tonga received her first dose of the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, becoming the first person to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in the disease-free country. (RNZ) International relations Russia–United States relations The Russian Foreign Minister says that Moscow will ask ten U.S. diplomats to leave Russia in retaliation to expulsions of Russian diplomats ordered by the United States yesterday. (AP) United States involvement in regime change, Cuba–United States relations Declassified documents released by the National Security Archive show that the Central Intelligence Agency was involved in a plot to assassinate Raúl Castro in 1960. (CNA) Law and crime Aftermath of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol American guitarist and Oath Keepers member Jon Schaffer pleads guilty for his role in the storming of the United States Capitol, making him the first participant in the riot to do so. (CNN) Politics and elections Politics of Cuba In a widely-expected move at the 8th Congress of the Communist Party, Raúl Castro officially resigns as First Secretary, the most powerful position in Cuba. Incumbent President Miguel Díaz-Canel is expected to succeed him. (NBC News) Science and technology Artemis program NASA awards SpaceX a contract to build its next-generation Human Landing System to return American astronauts to the lunar surface during this decade. (BBC)

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RD: John Dawes

Article: John Dawes (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport; The Guardian; Associated Press
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 07:01, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

RD: Liam Scarlett

Article: Liam Scarlett (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Wizardoftheyear (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Choreographer for the Royal Ballet. Just announced today. META: Can someone please help with the formatting issue here? I’ve never done a nomination before, and I’m not sure how to fix this.  Wizardoftheyear (talk) 23:47, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I fixed the formatting for you. The article looks fairly well referenced but the "Works" section will need to be fully sourced so that orange tag can be removed. P-K3 (talk) 00:02, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

RD: Ranjit Sinha

Article: Ranjit Sinha (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former chief of India's Central Bureau of Investigation. Article has an yellow box that will need to be fixed before it can be ready for homepage. I will take a pass at the article here in a bit. Ktin (talk) 18:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Conditional support Article could use some copyediting/cleanup and once done, has my support. Examples of issues for fixing include use of italics for quotations instead of quotation marks; talking about his children before his birth in "Early Life"; unclear abbreviations (IAS, IRS) that are not spelled out or linked (or others spelled out after usage); and some grammatical/wording fixes. Appropriate depth of coverage and referenced. Spencer^T•C 01:03, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

RD: Roger Soloman

Article: Roger Soloman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; The Guardian (Charlottetown)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (April 16). —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:47, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Weak support Wish there was more about his PEI political career, but I realize it might not be too much available in sources. Referenced. Spencer^T•C 00:55, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Raúl Castro

Article: Raúl Castro (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Raúl Castro resigns as First Secretary of the Communist Party of Cuba. (Post)
News source(s): NYT, AP, Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Not ITN/R because the President of Cuba is the head of state, but the First Secretary is the de facto leader of the country, more powerful than either the President or the Prime Minister. Also the first time a Castro isn't the leader of Cuba since 1959. Davey2116 (talk) 21:23, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Strongest possible support -- the end of an era which stretches back from even before my parents were born. A Castro no longer controls the Government of Cuba. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 21:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Mr. Castro is 89, so it's not surprising that he would resign as head of the ruling Communist Party. Historical footnote. – Sca (talk) 21:59, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait Changes to the leader of a country is blurb-worthy, but precedent is for the successor to also be or exclusively mentioned in the blurb. The problem I'm seeing is that Miguel Díaz-Canel is only "expected" to take over, and I'd like to wait until that is confirmed. Uses x (talk • contribs) 22:01, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

  To add: the citation needed template needs to be resolved on the page First Secretary of the Communist Party of Cuba before I'd be able to support, on top of the above. Uses x (talk • contribs) 22:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose In my opinion, it cannot be posted until he is died. His resignation is not enough newsworthy to be posted as ITN. 180.245.109.70 (talk) 22:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait According to List of current heads of state and government, this position is the position that holds the power of the executive in Cuba, which makes this ITN/R. However, the blurb should wait until a successor has been picked. NorthernFalcon (talk) 22:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Undeniably of historical and current significance. However, Díaz-Canel should be mentioned in the blurb. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 22:18, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait for the replacement to be announced, which should be any day. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:36, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Raúl Castro has too much unreferenced content to post, so while we wait for a replacement to be announced, the supporters can get it post ready. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:46, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Wait for the resignation and turnover of power to happen. I agree on that this is a case not readily covered by the ITNR but nearly all sources I see reporting on it treat the resignation as if the US Pres. or UK Prime Minister had stepped down, particularly as related to past Communist rule in Cuba. But right now, he still is in this position, he appearently has to name a successor to do this. --Masem (t) 22:45, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

  Yes, what would be significant would be a change in the political system, but I haven't seen anything indicating that's in the offing. As it is, the titular occupant of the top political post is of only passing interest. 'Cuba without a Castro' is still the Cuba we've known for the last 60 years. – Sca (talk) 14:11, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

  That feels a little misleading; like stating that the hypothetical replacement of Xi Jinping with an ideologically aligned person wouldn’t be a major story because it’s the same system, or that the hypothetical succession of Kamala Harris to the presidency wouldn’t matter because she’s the same party as Joe Biden. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 17:45, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Nope. The key difference is that Cuba is a one-party state. Thus, it doesn't materially matter who succeeds Mr. Castro. It will remain a one-party state, and policies (by all appearances) won't change – at least not soon. (Besides, Raúl more or less §inherited the top party post from his brother Fidel, founder of Communist Cuba.) – Sca (talk) 22:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hence the China comparison. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 23:25, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Vartan Gregorian

Article: Vartan Gregorian (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times Carnegie Corporation of New York
Credits:

• Nominated by Varavour (talk · give credit)
• Created by Yerevantsi (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Looks ready to go. Varavour (talk) 18:42, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Thorough depth of coverage; fully referenced. Spencer^T•C 23:17, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article in good shape. Sad news. Nsk92 (talk) 23:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Article looks good and meets homepage hygiene expectations. Marking ready. Ktin (talk) 00:44, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Fully referenced and comprehensive. Uses x (talk • contribs) 02:05, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 02:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --Masem (t) 18:59, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Helen McCrory

Article: Helen McCrory (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by 109.249.185.34 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kingsif (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs some updating. 109.249.185.34 (talk) 16:01, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose for now Notable enough, but needs additional citations.
• Oppose, not good enough. There is no wait, only do. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 17:52, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I've added six refs, I'm still checking through them to see if there are roles/awards not mentioned, and will look for those. No other article issues that would prevent posting. Kingsif (talk) 18:57, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Should be all sourced. Kingsif (talk) 22:03, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks well referenced now. P-K3 (talk) 22:37, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Appropriate depth of coverage. Spencer^T•C 04:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 17:06, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --Masem (t) 19:00, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Andrew Peacock

Article: Andrew Peacock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News, The Sydney Morning Herald, The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by JMonkey2006 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ballitomanga (talk · give credit), Steepleman (talk · give credit), Rubberbandme2015 (talk · give credit), Lugnuts (talk · give credit) and Artegia (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former national leader of the Liberal Party of Australia (LP), Former Ambassador of Australia to America JMonkey2006 (talk) 12:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support. Article's in a good state, for the most part. Some stuff is unsourced but I don't think it's enough to prevent posting. Anarchyte (talk • work) 12:15, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose There are whole paragraphs unsourced, let alone single sentences. Black Kite (talk) 13:15, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Same reason as Black Kite (talk · contribs). Will change when the article is fully sourced.
• Oppose for now needs more citations! Vacant0 (talk) 13:55, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support only one [citation needed] which really could/should be gotten rid of or sourced immediately. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 17:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Apart from the cn tags, the source for the entire first paragraph in "Early political career" is a 404 for me. Black Kite (talk) 18:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Tag, singular. And plenty of copies of that source at Archive.org. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support as soon as the above sourcing issues are resolved Thescrubbythug (talk) 18:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • It seems to me that the above issues are now resolved. I've helped fill in wherever citation was needed. Thescrubbythug (talk) 10:07, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --Masem (t) 18:57, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

April 15

Portal:Current events/2021 April 15

Current events of April 15, 2021 (2021-04-15) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks ISIL insurgency in Iraq At least four people are killed and 17 others are wounded in a car bomb attack at a market in Sadr City, Baghdad. (Al Jazeera) 2021 Myanmar protests Security forces arrest 25-year-old Wai Moe Naing, one of the most prominent leaders of the anti-coup protests, near Monywa. Separately, soldiers open fire on protesters in Mandalay to disperse a group of medical workers, killing one person and injuring several others. (Reuters) Gaza–Israel conflict Israeli Air Force jets and helicopters strike Hamas-linked targets in the Gaza Strip in retaliation for earlier rocket fire targeting southern Israel. The IDF says that an armaments production facility and a tunnel used to smuggle weapons were hit. (Times of Israel) Disasters and accidents Divers arrive at the scene of lift boat MV Seacor Power, which capsized and partially sank off the coast of the state of Louisiana in the United States. Rescuers suspect crew members may be trapped. Since the accident, six crew members have been rescued, one has died, and twelve remain missing. (KATC-TV) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India COVID-19 pandemic in Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal announces a weekend curfew in the national capital territory of Delhi from 10:00 p.m. on Saturday to 5:00 a.m. on Monday due to a substantial increase in the number of COVID-19 cases. (The Economic Times) India reports a record 200,739 new cases and 1,038 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to over 14 million and confirmed deaths to 173,123. India is also the second country to surpass 14 million cases, after the United States. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh Bangladesh surpasses 10,000 deaths from COVID-19. (Bdnews24.com) COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines The Philippines surpasses 900,000 total cases of COVID-19. (ABS-CBN News) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record for the second consecutive day of 1,543 new cases of COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 37,453. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in Scotland First Minister Nicola Sturgeon receives her first dose of the Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine. (The Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in Andorra Minister of Foreign Affairs Maria Ubach tests positive for COVID-19 after an outbreak in the Ministry's headquarters. (Diari d’Andorra) COVID-19 pandemic in Belgium President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen receives her first dose of the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. (Politico) COVID-19 pandemic in France France surpasses 100,000 deaths from COVID-19. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Turkey Turkey reports a record 297 deaths in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 35,031. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Manitoba, Lineage P.1 Manitoba reports its first case of the Lineage P.1 variant originally detected in Brazil in a person from the Interlake-Eastern region. (CBC) COVID-19 pandemic in Nunavut Nunavut's capital Iqaluit imposes a lockdown after the first COVID-19 case was reported last night. (CTV News) COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina Argentina's president Alberto Fernández announces that his government is closing schools and imposing a curfew in Buenos Aires amid a spike of the COVID-19 cases. (Reuters) International relations Russia–United States relations The United States imposes retaliatory measures against Russia in response to the 2020 United States federal government data breach, its interference in the 2020 United States elections, and the occupation of and human rights abuses in Crimea. The U.S. bans trade in bonds newly issued by Russia's Central Bank, National Wealth Fund, and Ministry of Finance, formally names the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service as responsible for the data breach, blacklists 32 Russian entities and individuals, and expels ten Russian diplomats. Russia denies these allegations. The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs summons the U.S. ambassador to inform him that "a series of retaliatory measures will follow soon". A spokesperson for the ministry also says that a potential summit between both countries' leaders may not take place. (CNN) (Reuters) Russia–Ukraine relations Ukraine protests an alleged announcement by Russia that, beginning next week, it would be closing the Kerch Strait to foreign warships and state ships until October. (Interfax-Ukraine) Law and crime 2021 in France Ages of consent in Europe The French National Assembly votes unanimously to amend an existing age of consent law in order to officially recognize sex with children under the age of 15 as rape and making it punishable by up to 20 years in prison. Previously, the law allowed an adult to claim the consent of a child in court. The bill also classifies incestuous sex with a minor under the age of 18 as rape. (Reuters) The French National Assembly approves a controversial global security law proposal that extends police powers and makes it a crime to help identify on-duty police officers "with the obvious intent of harming". Amnesty International denounces the law's "generalized surveillance practices" and "vague provisions". (AP via Daily Sabah) Killing of Adam Toledo The Chicago Police Department publicly releases bodycam footage of the shooting of 13-year-old Mexican American boy Adam Toledo. The footage appears to show an unarmed Toledo with both his arms raised in the air before being fatally shot in the chest by an officer. Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot says "Simply put, we failed Adam" and calls for calm amidst fears of unrest. (BBC) Several protests take place around the city after the video is released, including one that briefly shut down northbound Michigan Avenue and another at Union Park. (WMAQ-TV) Indianapolis FedEx shooting Eight people are killed and seven others injured in a mass shooting at a FedEx facility in Indianapolis, Indiana, United States. Police say the gunman took his own life afterwards. (CNN) (CNN2) (AP) Residents of Essouassi, Mahdia Governorate, Tunisia, torch the local police station, and a police vehicle, after two young men are killed in a traffic accident with a police vehicle. Personnel evacuate the facility, and no one is hurt. (Middle East Monitor)

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(Closed) Indianapolis FedEx shooting

Closed... no chance of a consensus developing for posting. Noah^Talk 01:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Indianapolis FedEx shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​A mass shooting at an Indianapolis FedEx leaves nine dead and six injured. (Post)
News source(s): (CNN), (AP News), (NY Times), BBC, Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Elijahandskip (talk · give credit)
• Created by Love of Corey (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Nsk92 (talk · give credit) and Kellis7 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: 9 dead and 6 injured is a fairly large mass shooting, even for the US. Elijahandskip (talk) 14:23, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Wait We currently don't have a motive and it's been 12 hours since the shooting took place. Kellis7 (User talk:Kellis7 14:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait – Per previous. RS reports indicate suicidal shooter acted alone, and his motive was unknown. Although toll considerable, wider significance appeared absent as of 14:30 UTC. – Sca (talk) 14:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait unless it's terrorism (racial, political, religious I don't care) we ought not post. Domestic and workplace disputes frequently turn deadly in the United States. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait per reasoning of LaserLegs. --Masem (t) 14:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose another day in the United States. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Bro. 15 casualties at a single shooting isn't "another day in the US". At max, 10 casualties in a single location would be typical, but more than that is big news. This is top news in 90% of major news sources. Elijahandskip (talk) 15:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

"Bro", nearly 13,000 people have been killed in gun violence this year in the US (and it's only mid-April). This is nearly the 150th mass shooting of 2021. It's just not news. It's like reporting that bombs have gone off in a war. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Where are you getting these numbers from? You're either making it up or wildly misciting somebody's statistics. Levivich ^harass/_hound 00:31, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Gun Violence Archive has 12,422. Stephen 00:47, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

If that's the source, that would be misciting statistics. GVA is reporting 12k deaths, not homicides. Similarly they report ~147 "mass shootings" this year but 11 "mass murders". And their definitions don't match other sources' definitions anyway. This hasn't happened 13k or 150 times before or anything even close to that. This is not a routine event, and I wish people would stop misciting statistics in their arguments. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics," I guess. Levivich ^harass/_hound 01:16, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Where are you getting the number 15 from? All recent sources (including the article) list the death count as 9. Gex4pls (talk) (lack of contributions) 16:01, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Gex4pls, "casualties" include non-fatal injuries. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:12, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Muboshgu Oh, I assumed they meant deaths alone, thanks for the clarification. Gex4pls (talk) (lack of contributions) 16:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Sadly this is run of the mill. This isn't another day in the US, it's just another month. There have been 31 other deaths in unrelated mass shootings in the US this month alone, and that number is only set to grow. Gex4pls (talk) (lack of contributions) 16:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per TRM et al..  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:16, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait Although this is being widely reported, and the number of casualties is above the routine, we don't yet know if this is just another workplace dispute or something more significant. P-K3 (talk) 16:22, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait unless this is something extremely out of the ordinaryOppose run-of-the mill event. Black Kite (talk) 16:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Nine deaths isn't enough for a blurb, and I've said before it's not reasonable to post every event on this list, the same way it's unreasonable to post every high-casualty event in regions of wars, protests, etc. The article would also need to be more comprehensive. Uses x (talk • contribs) 17:33, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose dog bites man, unfortunately. ——Serial 18:33, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Another run-of-the-mill shooting in the United States that makes me feel that we're getting spammed. Putting RD nominations aside, 'shooting in the United States' is the most frequent type of nomination, even more frequent than elections. I simply can't see any extraordinariness.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:32, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support - First mass shooting at a FedEx in 30-some odd years.--WaltCip-(talk) 20:17, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

  ... on a Thursday ... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:20, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

  You have a link to a mass shooting at a FedEx on a different day in the last 30 years? --LaserLegs (talk) 22:37, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose – All indications are that the shooter, a 19-year-old former FedEx employee, acted on his own, so broader significance seems unlikely. Under the circumstances and in context, nine fatalities (including the gunman) doesn't seem like ITN material. – Sca (talk) 22:15, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose shootings in the US are so common, and nothing to suggest this is anything ITN worthy. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:45, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• comment: the onion has republished its 'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens article, suggesting that this may not be a run-of-the-mill event. dying (talk) 01:21, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

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United States racial unrest

Article: 2020–2021 United States racial unrest (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Lmomjian (talk · give credit), Tvc 15 (talk · give credit) and Love of Corey (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Nominating after proposal at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#Daunte Wright protests. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose all just run of the mill stuff at the moment. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose (pending significant developments) in accordance with previous reasons in Daunte Wright protests below. Osunpokeh (talk) 21:38, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

  @Osunpokeh Anything specific? I can't see anything that applies to this nomination considering this is a list of all protests (which undeniably are notable and have a high impact), rather than a single element of that list. Uses x (talk • contribs) 21:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support It's ongoing, it's certainly in the news, the overall impact (both domestic and international) is high, and the article is high quality. The comment about the protests being routine (which I agree with) doesn't apply to a collection, so there's no issue with that in this nomination. Uses x (talk • contribs) 21:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support per Uses X mostly. I'm unconvinced by the not a (insert country name) ticker - civil unrest is well established as notable enough for Ongoing. We should apply the same standards that we ought apply to others: pull it down when the story is stale or the article is trash. --LaserLegs (talk) 21:52, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support it's significant, the nature of these protests is not run-of-the-mill at all, and the article is in great shape. Events are likely to continue in this direction as today we see the release of a video of a 13 year old Hispanic male shot while his hands were up. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:56, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support none of this is run-of-the-mill, despite the misinformed protestations to the contrary. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 22:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

  Wrong. That's why we have an article detailing literally dozens of protests after the literally hundreds of people who have been killed by the US police in the last few months. It's almost as common as mass shootings. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:05, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support There is no valid argument against this year-long event being significant. Rather the argument is that several hundred mass protests occurring in a short span are distinct unrelated events, such that a) they must qualify individually and b) the vast number of protests make the them commonplace. Cynical as hell, but typical anti-American bashing from the usual suspects. GreatCaesarsGhost 22:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

  I guess we just run a "racial unrest" ticker and a "mass shootings" ticker then, as both are commonplace and completely unremarkable these days. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose The problem is, given the nature of this article is being constructed, there's no proverbial end to this, and it would remain in ongoing indefinitely (In contrast, we know there will be a point we can eventually remove COVID once it no longer is seen as a worldwide threat). If we post this, we might as well post something along the lines of "gun violence in the United States" - a major news topic but one that has no clear "end". --Masem (t) 22:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Guaido still thinks he's president of Venezuela, students in Hong Kong are still antagonizing the CPC, in fact there are still weekend protests in Belarus all those articles were in ongoing and are no longer. Prying stuff out of OG is a gigantic hassle around here but that isn't a reason not to put things into OG. Brexit popped in and out as it flared up. The Myanmar protests are in the box right now and that mess is a monument to WP:SYNTH. I empathize, but relax, we'll be fine. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem and The Rambling Man. I do not believe that several riots that may coincide temporally and causally is something of such importance as to be "ongoing". Police brutality + protests is usual in the US. Catalonia has experienced something similar (bridging the gap) in recent years in the context of the territorial crisis with Spain, with riots for days and I would not even think of nominating it. Although honestly I am not going oppose if a consensus is reached to support it. Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Its a notable series of ongoing protests, and I would support Catalonia protests being ITN, tooJackattack1597 (talk) 00:20, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Since at least 2011, there have been reliable protests/unrest/riots in American cities every Summer. Whether you're sympathetic to the professed motivations, yet another year is hardly unique, unusual or comment worthy outside of larger effects. Putting them in Ongoing is like putting Crime in the US in Ongoing; it's part and parcel of living there.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:02, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Adding, individual events are much better suited for blurbs, and I would (and have) support(ed) them previously. The linked article is narrative spinning from disparate events that are sometimes not even thematically related.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:04, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support per Uses x and Muboshgu, and per RS (e.g. those cited in the article), which write that the protests 2020-present are quite different from previous 21st-century protests. (How long did it take before Occupy Wall Street was added to ongoing?) Levivich ^harass/_hound 06:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose mostly because the article is blown up with every incident of larger scale that occurred in the country over the past year (What does the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol have to do with race without clear explanation in the text?). I also notice events that were posted either with a blurb or to ongoing on their own so the target article is definitely not something to support on the main page. In my opinion, 2020–2021 Minneapolis–Saint Paul racial justice protests could be a better fit in place of Daunte Wright protests and the proposed one just waters down notability (Yet, the article on Daunte Wright protests is not updated with yesterday's events, implying descending significance as time goes by.).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • This is sorta what I was getting it in my oppose, while it is clear the concept of long-term racial instability is there, this feels like an OR-created topic that doesn't reflect how the news frames this. Connections are being made between the George Floyd protests and these events, sure, but they aren't seemingly calling it connected event. --Masem (t) 14:02, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment/Musing -- Having thought on this some more, I think we should probably wait until after the verdict for Derek Chauvin. These protests may rapidly die, or they may become as big as the protests in 2020. We don't know yet. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 08:41, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

  Then that won't be an "ongoing" news story, it will be a story directly related to the most recent police killings so will be a blurb. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:10, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose My first thought was a blanket oppose, since the other nom is still open and this feels like a classic way to skirt around opposition there, but I read through all the comments, particularly TRM and LL, and I still feel that the Minnesota riots article would be a more appropriate target (and that the new? article probably shouldn't exist at all) but have been convinced a blurb would be more appropriate given the often disparate nature of the protests/riots/whatever. Kingsif (talk) 10:36, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Too broad a topic, impossible to manage in a way that treats incidents equitably, inevitably producing a mishmash. – Sca (talk) 12:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - Racism in the United States has been going on for a long time and this topic isn't current (this is my understanding, since I'm not from the US). If it's about a specific protest or unrest like the George Floyd protest, I'm okay with it. But not this. --Sitaphul (talk) 14:00, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Before anyone says I'm anti-American, I've supported the Daunte Wright protest nomination Sitaphul (talk) 14:12, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Comment A better case may be made for ongoing of the Daunte Wright protests. Albertaont (talk) 18:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Albertaont: See here. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:46, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support per Uses x and Muboshgu. It's certainly getting a lot of coverage. Collectively they're notable enough and show no signs of fading, so it's suited for ongoing. Davey2116 (talk) 21:49, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Anyone who claims that this is "run-of-the-mill" either categorically dislikes when United States affairs get put on the front page or doesn't know anything about the United States (or in TRM's case, both). The changes that have been sweeping the nation since last June are unprecedented. Monuments getting taken down, actors retiring their roles, the Redskins finally changing their name, etc. Mlb96 (talk) 05:31, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Furthermore, this article covers every protest since last June. Look at this list of race riots in the U.S. Prior to June 2020, there hadn't been a race-related protest in four years. And with the exception of 2014-2015, there was an average of one race-related protest per year. Since June 2020, we've had multiple race-related protests per month. To claim that these kinds of protests are common is absurd. If they seem common now, it's because the racial unrest is LITERALLY on-going. This frankly should have been put into on-going months ago, but better late than never. Mlb96 (talk) 05:45, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

    You mean there wasn't any protest in 2019 like this one? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:56, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

    Hah, by all means try to insult me Mlb96 but you just make yourself look silly really. Racial unrest has been ongoing for years and it's not newsworthy, it's just "a way of life" in the US, just like mass shootings. Nothing changes, nothing of true encyclopedic value comes from these protests or shootings. Once the balance tips and someone actually does something to prevent more than 1,000 people being murdered by the US police per year or reduce hundreds of mass shootings to nearly zero, then we can get genuinely interested in a news story. Until then, it's business as usual. I feel very sorry for the thousands of people killed every year in each of these circumstances in the US, but that doesn't mean we need to overwhelm this global encyclopedia with protest/mass shooting tickers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

    TRM, I'm trying assume good faith, but I feel that your anti-American bias is shining through, and it's annoying. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 09:46, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

    No, I'm just saying it as it is. The rest of the world is dog tired of being inundated with "riot" and "mass shooting" stories from the US, in particular when literally nothing ever is done about it. I discovered 'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens today, sums it up perfectly. This isn't about anti-American anything. If someone kept suggesting we post minor casualty events from a war zone then I'd continually oppose those as well. This is no different. But I appreciate your attempts to AGF. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:59, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

    I'm in full agreement with TRM here and I'm American - this is unfortunately the situation in America for more than a decade or two. What's happened in the last year and calling it a special period is inappropriate WP:SYNTH. Further, this type of story belies the purpose of ongoing, where we know that there will be a reasonable endpoint that we expect to pull the event; there is no sign that this unrest will end in the US; if it ends (likely due to legislation that is passed) the means by which it ends would be a story. --Masem (t) 14:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Nonsense. If '20-21 racial unrest in the US is synth, then AFD the article. But of course it's not synth; the RSes themselves, in their own voice, explicitly, state that the protests of the past year are unique. (Those RSes are cited in that article.) These protests are not business as usual; they are larger, more frequent, more widespread, longer lasting, and more violent (on both sides), than any protests in the US probably since the seventies. Even bigger than OWS. (Was OWS in ongoing?) Definitely the biggest in my lifetime, and probably the biggest in your lifetime, too. If not, name the last time we had sustained year-long nationwide protests. Even OWS didn't last a year. Levivich ^harass/_hound 14:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

It's just a low-level collection of angry people who are continually angry about things that don't change. This isn't news. That's the point. There is nothing to be gained for our readers on seeing low-level protest after low-level protest after low-level protest added to that article of low-level protests. The world is bored of this, nothing changes, nothing gets to a point of real noteworthiness. It may come to a shock to those people in the US who think this is of anything more than a passing interest, but these shootings and riots just roll off the news with regularity. There's no interest. This is a global encyclopedia, focusing ITN on mass shootings and protest after protest is not its mission. And since when was 2021 storming of the United States Capitol about racial unrest? Jesus. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:53, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Referring to millions of American protesters as "just a low-level collection of angry people who are continually angry about things that don't change" is your anti-Americanism showing again. You really need to curtail this here. If "this isn't news" then why is it all over the news? Also, you do not speak for "the world". "The world" does not have a single opinion on anything. Your comments here are 100% just your opinion and no one else's. Levivich ^harass/_hound 15:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh give it rest. Half the items in that article featured dozens, not millions, of people protesting and many of those had nothing to do with "racial unrest". Once you have a suitable argument other than the half-baked "anti-Americanism" bollocks, I'll listen. I'm actually anti-police-murder and anti-mass-shooting, I have no opinion on the United States, having been there several times it offers literally nothing. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support, per Mlb96. Nothing "run of the mill" about the racial protests that have been taking place over the last year since the George Floyd death in the U.S. They absolutely are qualitatively different from the protests that have occurred before, and they have already resulted in significant changes in attitudes towards race and policing, comparable to the impact of the Me Too movement. Saying that the rest of the world is dog tired of being inundated with these stories is a perfectly good reason to put them into a single 'ongoing' item. Then each time an individual story of this kind gets nominated for a blurb, there will be an immediate counter-argument: we already have an ongoing item for this topic and let's keep it there. Nsk92 (talk) 14:05, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose way too broad and disparate. A lot of that article is just disparate protests in response to isolated events that might've had something to do with racism. TBH, it might actually be original research to group these all together as part of some cohesive movement, in the way that article is doing (distinct from some kind of list article), unless there's some RS doing the same (not immediately obvious). But, and WP:CRYSTAL notwithstanding, possibly in the future there may be a suitable nomination relating to the Chauvin trial. But not sure this is it. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as too broad, in line with what several others have pointed out above. Yakikaki (talk) 19:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• This strikes me as rather amorphous. I'm not completely ready to dismiss it because it is generating significant and ongoing coverage, though. pbp 22:56, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Kerch Strait closure

No consensus to post. Stephen 02:04, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Kerch Strait (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Russia announces its decision to close the Kerch Strait in the Black Sea to "warships and other state vessels" until October. (Post)
News source(s): NY Post, Plymouth Herald, Ukrinform
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Likely a notable development in the ongoing tensions with Russia, Ukrainian Foreign Ministry has responded. Brandmeister^talk 21:08, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Announcement. Might be relevant when it actually happens. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Just an announcement, and not in the news much. The update would also need to be longer, giving the impacts of it, etc, as right now there's only the background. Uses x (talk • contribs) 21:20, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose It's not significant - if we were to nominate every military activity then the list would be huge Sitaphul (talk) 14:05, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I think Russia announcing it's doing a thing is the same as Russia doing that thing. I rather doubt anyone is going to test them. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:52, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment This is related to the back-and-forth between Russia-Ukraine-US, and is a minor development about equal to the US sailing destroyers through the Dardanelles, or Zelensky's visit to troops. The article is actually pretty nice. I'd rather post good articles with a topical update than the usual "event" article, but some more information in the blurb is needed to give readers context. And we should wait at least until next week when this is no longer merely an annoucement.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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April 14

Portal:Current events/2021 April 14

Current events of April 14, 2021 (2021-04-14) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan Afghan peace process U.S. President Joe Biden formally announces that American troops will leave Afghanistan by September 11. (Politico) Somali Civil War Fourteen civilians are killed and four others wounded when the minibus they are travelling in hits a landmine in the outskirts of Mogadishu. A military commander blames al-Shabaab for the attack. (Arab News) Disasters and accidents At least 20 people are killed and three more are wounded after a bus overturns after being hit by a truck in Asyut, Egypt. (Al Jazeera) Rescue operations commence after the Seacor Marine lift boat MV Seacor Power sinks off the coast of the U.S. state of Louisiana. Coast Guard officials say that six of the crew have been rescued and the remaining twelve are missing. (BBC) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India COVID-19 pandemic in Rajasthan The government announces a 12-hour curfew in all cities from 6:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. from April 16 to 30 due to an increase in the number of COVID-19 cases. (Hindustan Times) India reports a record 184,372 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 13.9 million. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh Bangladesh reports a record 96 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 9,987. (Dhaka Tribune) COVID-19 pandemic in Cambodia The government imposes a 14-day lockdown in the capital Phnom Penh and its neighboring Takmao from midnight until April 28 amidst a community outbreak of COVID-19. (The Phnom Penh Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Mongolia Mongolia reports a record 1,220 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby surpassing 1,000 daily cases for the first time. (News.MN) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record 1,335 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 35,910. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Sweden COVID-19 vaccination in Sweden The Public Health Agency of Sweden suspends usage of the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine following reports of rare blood clot cases. 31,000 doses of the vaccine are currently being delivered to the country. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Denmark Denmark becomes the first European country to permanently suspend usage of the Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine candidate, following weeks of reports that the vaccine may cause blood clots. The move is expected to delay the country's vaccination program by "several weeks". (CBS News) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia President Vladimir Putin receives his second dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. It remains unknown which of Russia's three current vaccine candidates were administered to the president. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Turkey Turkey reports new records of 62,797 cases and 279 deaths in the past 24 hours, thereby surpassing four million cases of COVID-19. (Daily Sabah) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in New York (state) COVID-19 pandemic in New York City New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announces that bars and restaurants in New York City and the state will be allowed to close at midnight beginning on April 19. (Patch.com) COVID-19 vaccination in the United States White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator Jeffrey Zients says that the Biden administration will accelerate doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines. The move comes after the United States suspended usage of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. (CNBC) COVID-19 pandemic in Brazil The Federal Senate launches an inquiry into President Jair Bolsonaro's handling of the pandemic, as total deaths are expected to surpass 360,000. Main areas of focus are on allegations that he sabotaged social distancing measures, his poor acquisition of vaccines and touting of ineffective treatments such as chloroquine, and the cause of oxygen shortages in Manaus's hospitals, among others. (Al Jazeera) COVID-19 vaccine In a study published by the National Health Service, the Pfizer vaccine has been found to reduce hospitalizations in elderly people by 75%. (Metro) International relations Brexit The United Kingdom says that it has requested to respond to a European Union notification of intent to start legal proceedings over the UK's alleged breaching of the Northern Ireland Protocol by mid-May. The UK says that its unilateral delay of the introduction of new Irish Sea border checks on food, parcels and pets is lawful. (Politico.eu) India–Pakistan relations Intelligence officers from both India and Pakistan confirm to Reuters that secret talks were held between the two nations, with the United Arab Emirates acting as the mediator, in January to help warm relations. Relations between the two had been strained after India conducting airstrikes in Balakot and India-administered Kashmir was stripped of its autonomy in 2019. (Reuters) Law and crime Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot A judge lifts the curfew and house arrest restrictions of two brothers who are suspected of plotting to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer last year. However, they are still required to wear GPS tethers. (People) 2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings The government bans eleven Islamic organizations, including ISIL and al-Qaeda, a week before the second anniversary of the bombings after the country's Roman Catholics threatened massive protests over the government's perceived failure to act against the perpetrators. (Al Jazeera) Pakistani Interior Minster Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad announces the far-right Islamist party Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan will be banned, following days of violent protests by supporters over the arrest of party chief Saad Hussain Rizvi. (Al Jazeera)

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(Posted) RD: Michel Louvain

Article: Michel Louvain (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CTV News / Canadian Press; Montreal Gazette
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 01:15, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is well-sourced Vacant0 (talk) 13:59, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Good article, and everything is sourced. Uses x (talk • contribs) 02:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --Masem (t) 18:57, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ahmed Usman

Article: Ahmed Usman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Premium Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Spencer (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Aymatth2 (talk · give credit) and Spencer (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Military Governor of Ondo and Oyo States in Nigeria. Article is referenced and has appropriate depth of coverage. Spencer^T•C 15:38, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is in good shape. Alsoriano97 (talk) 08:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Weak support article is generally fine, though it's currently using worldstatesmen as a source, which should be replaced as it's on the depreciated sources list (as it's a self-published peerage website). The dates in lead are a bit unusual, maybe put them into text. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Joseph2302 Already posted, but thanks for the feedback--updated refs and shifted the dates into the text. Spencer^T•C 15:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Anarchyte (talk • work) 11:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted to RD) RD/Blurb: Bernie Madoff

Consensus does not seem likely to develop for a blurb, so I am closing/withdrawing it.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Bernie Madoff (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: American financier Bernie Madoff (pictured), who operated the largest Ponzi scheme in history, dies at the age of 82. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian, AP, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Jgeorge20 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Financier and fraudster

• Support. Count Iblis (talk) 13:59, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose ??????????????? Fakescientist8000 (talk) 14:03, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Both of you are going to have to provide a rationale...-- P-K3 (talk) 14:11, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

@Pawnkingthree: To be fair the comments were posted before I added the template - it previously just read "Bernie Madoff" with no context. Black Kite (talk) 14:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah, ok.-- P-K3 (talk) 14:15, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, my bad. I was just bewildered that it didn't have a template. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 15:33, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support I'm not seeing any lapses in sourcing. Lede's a bit awkward and overheavy on details of the trial but not a severe enough issue to block RD posting. (and confirm with BK that the first two !votes from Count Iblis + Fakescientist8000 had been made before a template was added) --Masem (t) 14:17, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Adding my Oppose blurb - convicted fraud dies in prison does not represent a transformative person at the top of their field. --Masem (t) 15:04, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb given the magnitude of his fraud, and have proposed as much. I understand we don't want to push too much stuff off the ITN box; while I don't necessarily agree, at least that's better than promoting otherwise non-notable stories because "nothing's happening".  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 14:18, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support A well cited article, it at least deserves a RD Vacant0 (talk) 14:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb There is one cn tag, to a list of assets that seem logical, three dead links, and a clarify tag that I don't understand, but otherwise in great shape. Prominence warrants blurb. Kingsif (talk) 14:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. Significant criminal, yes, but not of lasting global importance. Sandstein 14:30, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support: Major news sites like CNBC and the New York Times have it as a top story and the article is well cited, if not a blurb it at least deserves an RD mention. PolarManne (talk) 14:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support RD only. Article looks good. Infamous in the US, but doesn't meet the very high bar for international notoriety for blurbs for deaths from old age. It's a side article in UK and French news. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 14:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support RD only article is good shape for RD. For someone involved in such a high profile scandal, surprised his name isn't more commonplace, but outside of the US he isn't well known at all. So doesn't meet the very high threshold for a deceased person to get a blurb. (And before anyone screams bias, I also opposed Prince Phillip last week for same reason). Joseph2302 (talk) 14:41, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posting RD, there will be no consensus for a blurb, I believe. --Tone 14:52, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support RD only doesn't meet significant criteria for a blurb.-- P-K3 (talk) 14:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb, international ramifications etc. ——Serial 14:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb Now that the template has been added. Very significant person indeed, chief mastermind behind a massive fraud scheme. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb and weak oppose RD Just another nomination in the avalanche of nominations to blurb around here lately. Big criminal, but not a transformative figure in his field, neither in his country nor globally, as stated above. Also there's two cn tags in the article. Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:53, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb this guy is the Nelson Mandela of financial criminals. Household name: check. Feature films/documentaries: check. Blurb it up. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Well was, anyway. And also "the Prince Philip of Ponzi fraudsters"? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:06, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb per Masem. A lot of media coverage but RD is appropriate. Spencer^T•C 16:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb per Masem. Blurbs are the exception, not just for anybody that people have heard of.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb - what information does the blurb provide readers that an RD listing doesn't provide? "Madoff died" is what the RD listing says: beyond that, a blurb would say nothing useful. If Madoff is a global transformative figure, etc., then everyone knows who he is and we don't have to describe him in a blurb. So a blurb won't give any add'l useful info, which means the only reason to blurb rather than RD is to say his death is more important than other RDs. We shouldn't be doing that, as it's not our place to decide. Levivich ^harass/_hound 17:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. Old man dies in prison. No rationale for a blurb other than him being reasonably well-known. Nohomersryan (talk) 17:30, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb - Notoriety does not equate to global transformative importance.--WaltCip-(talk) 18:46, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Weak Support blurb I don't think that crime ought to be a significant enough field for ITN death blurbs, and I don't like the idea of giving further fame to a criminal, but there's no question that Bernie Madoff was a "transformative world leader in his field" given that he ran the largest ponzi scheme of all time, so by the current wording of "Blurbs for recent deaths" he probably should be a blurb. NorthernFalcon (talk) 19:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb exactly as WaltCip puts it. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:08, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

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(Closed) Daunte Wright protests

No consensus to post to ongoing. Stephen 02:02, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Daunte Wright protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by 2600:1700:5890:69F0:1D21:C59E:DB08:A777 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Nightly unrest is now in its third day. 2600:1700:5890:69F0:1D21:C59E:DB08:A777 (talk) 04:41, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Wait but leaning oppose. Nowhere near the scale of the George Floyd protests at this point. --Masem (t) 05:04, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Article quality is not suitable for Front Page, currently at AFD.130.233.213.199 (talk) 05:17, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

The article is improved and the AFD has closed. On a second review the article could go up. The point made by TRM below is a very good one, though. Protests and riots in the Upper Midwest (and in many of the places listed in the Events elsewhere section) have become commonplace over the last few years.130.233.213.199 (talk) 04:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Yet another Ongoing nomination has been made for this event (above) which links to a much weaker and frankly poorly composed article. In the interest of getting something up on this topic, I'd suggest to make a blurb nomination along the lines of Protests and unrest stemming from the death of Daunte Wright enter their Nth day. The article here is good enough, and that blurb formulation we have used many times previously.130.233.213.199 (talk) 10:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose On article quality. Anything red-tagged is not getting on the main page, however ITN the actual event. Kingsif (talk) 05:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support I think we could even move it into ongoing as part of 'American protests' or 'United States protests', similar to the Mynamar protests ongoing ITN. Even though the Black Lives Matter movement has experienced a period of inactivity, it seems to be re-emerging and we could potentially list it in the ongoing should these protests continue to regain momentum. JMonkey2006 (talk) 05:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait until AFD ends. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:20, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment 2020–2021 Minneapolis–Saint Paul racial justice protests is a different potential target, that I'm neutral towards. Kingsif (talk) 06:34, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait, also a Comment: this is a bit POINTy: considering the rather tame Northern Ireland Riots got in, this one should, by that same standard. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 07:52, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support This receives front-page coverage on the BBC and many media in Europe and it appears that the protesters haven't calmed down even though the incident was followed by police resignations. I strongly suspect that some users are deliberately undermining the significance of these protests because they no longer take place during Trump's presidency. And we don't have a rule that an ITN nomination should be frozen while an AfD on an underlying article is open.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:59, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment this has an AFD running for it, so shouldn't run unless that's resolved as keep. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose for now. If something major happens I'd reconsider, but 53 arrests isn't front-page news to me. According to the article, these protests are only part of the more general 2020–2021 Minneapolis–Saint Paul racial justice protests which I'd personally support for ongoing due to the wider scope. Uses x (talk • contribs) 08:13, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Uses X. Domestic protests without the national (and international) impact of George Floyd protests. I would say that Northern Ireland riots are much important than this ones and everyone agreed in not to post it in ongoing. Alsoriano97 (talk) 08:20, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• But it was blurbed, which this one is not being considered for (I think). -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 08:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose because it's nowhere near important enough. The article is up for deletion. Jim Michael (talk) 08:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. It's pretty clear that this isn't like the George Floyd matter. 331dot (talk) 08:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Re-opened The AfD has been speedily closed with a result 'Keep' so the discussion here can continue.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 16:07, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  For the record, the AfD was closed as "no consensus".—Bagumba (talk) 16:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  Yes indeed but 'no consensus' to delete has the same effect as 'Keep', which is more spot on in relation to this nomination.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 16:59, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  I've never seen a speedy close with no consensus before- seems like that is being used solely so people can re-open this nomination. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:09, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  The nominator themself withdrew the nomination, but a speedy keep was technically not possible because one editor chose "Delete" before the article was expanded to a reasonable length (see WP:WITHDRAWN). Other than that, it was between a keep and a merge, and a merge isn't reasonable considering the size of both articles. There's no conspiracy. Uses x (talk • contribs) 19:53, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support It would be inconsistent of me to have supported posting the Northern Ireland protest but oppose this one. Mlb96 (talk) 18:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • It should be considered that often when there is a "white cop shoots black person" incident which happen with rather troubling frequency, there are protests, some more significant and/or violent than others; the Floyd protests clearly surpassed a level of being "routine". These protests may be just tipping past "routine" with the events of last night but they still aren't at the same sense of scale as the Floyd ones. In contrast, the protests in N. Ireland aren't anywhere close to routine occurances, and the events that led to those unusual (beyond the ususual tension between N. Ireland and the rest of the British Isles). As such, it didn't have a baseline to compare to so was posted for that reason. Its why we do consider events relative to their scope and scale for similar events within the same region for posting, and how that would filter up to the international scale. --Masem (t) 18:20, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose along the lines of Masem's explanation above. Like mass shootings, these protests are now commonplace, and realistically it needs to not be "routine" for it to be something we should consider at ITN. Those arguing about the N'Iron posting need to realise that riots there (in this day and age) just don't (didn't) happen. Trying to equate these regular riots with a rarity is not a reasonable comparison. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:07, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Ok, so if riots in Northern Ireland started up again, would you be OK with not blurbing them/putting them in ongoing? -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 00:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Are you trying to assert that riots happening for the second time in decades equates to the run-of-the-mill riots we see in the US every time a cop kills someone? The US police kill more than 1,000 people a year, it's routine. The ensuing riots are, thus, routine. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 06:52, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• They are not routine. Most deaths by police do not result in rioting, or even protest. And these are not run-of-the-mill. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 08:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Sure, well perhaps the 1,000+ people killed by US police every year would beg to differ if they could. And a quick look at 2020–2021 United States racial unrest shows that yes, indeed, riots are very much commonplace these days, whether you think so or not. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:09, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Police killing people in the US is obviously not something worthy of ITN. These protests however, are new and not routine. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 22:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• As the "ongoing nom" demonstrates, these protests have been going on regularly for months and months. It's routine. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:29, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Already having an effect on the world outside Minneapolis, and article is well updated. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:05, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Effects? Which ones? Where? Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:31, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

City under a state of emergency, professional sports teams cancelling games, protests around the country. These things rarely accelerate as quickly as this one has. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:48, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose – Per Jim Michael, TRM – The shooter and the police chief have resigned, and the shooter has been charged, hopefully defusing this incredibly bizarre event.

PS: This user grew up in Minneapolis, and can hardly believe the stuff going on there – but I left a long time ago. – Sca (talk) 22:16, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Comment maybe the thing to do is to put Black Lives Matter into ongoing since both the road side summary execution of unarmed black men by sworn police and mass demonstrations afterwards both seem to be .... ongoing. We've let poorer quality articles fester in the box for ages and the pattern of "but the sub-articles" was well established as a justification for keeping the Hong Kong Bother in the box for a while. Consider it anyway, especially with the Chauvin acquittal looming there is certain to be more unrest. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I thought you were going pointy there at the beginning (I know ho much you love ongoing), but you convinced me. These are absolutely ongoing in the literal sense, and only routine for the last year. 2020–2021 United States racial unrest would seem appropriate. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:09, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
    • +1. Not that crazy of an idea to have US racial unrest in ongoing. Levivich ^harass/_hound 18:15, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose that for ongoing, basically it would then be argued to stay in perpetuity. Might as well have a US ticker. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Do you really think that these protests, more intense and severe that we've had since May, are going to occur in perpetuity? Serious question. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 22:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Yes. US cops murder at least 1,000 people a year. That hasn't and won't change. People now get annoyed by it rather than just accept it as part of the US lifestyle. Protests, as evidenced by the "ongoing nomination" article, are now commonplace. They will happen for the foreseeable future while nothing changes. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• • LaserLegs, GreatCaesarsGhost, Levivich, and The Rambling Man: I've nominated the article here. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Support Seems a significant topic to me - max it should be there for 2 or 3 days Sitaphul (talk) 14:10, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

In the context of U.S. mass shootings, this singular one seems less than significant, though it has a bizarre aspect. – Sca (talk) 14:51, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

That's true, but that's not a qualification for not posting. Correct me if I'm wrong Sitaphul (talk) 18:24, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support The article is very detailed and these protests have certainly gotten a lot of coverage. I'd support either this or 2020–2021 United States racial unrest as nominated above. Davey2116 (talk) 21:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support per above, but I think a broader racial unrest ongoing would be better, per the arguments in that thread, and tonight is the first Adam Toledo protest... these protests are only growing with no sign of dissipating. Levivich ^harass/_hound 03:38, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

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April 13

Portal:Current events/2021 April 13

Current events of April 13, 2021 (2021-04-13) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan Afghan peace process U.S. President Joe Biden says that he plans to withdraw all remaining American troops in Afghanistan by September 11. The United States also reiterates its support for the Afghan government against the Taliban, which declines to comment on the apparent change from the previously-agreed deadline of May 1. (Reuters) The United Kingdom announces that it will withdraw nearly all of its troops from Afghanistan, following the announcement of a U.S. withdrawal. There are around 750 British soldiers still stationed in Afghanistan, mostly in the capital Kabul. (Reuters) Turkey says that it will host a summit from April 24 to May 4 in an effort to end the war in Afghanistan. (Al Jazeera) 2021 Afghanistan attacks A car bombing in Farah kills three civilians; and 10 security personnel are killed in the country's north. (ABC News) 2019–2021 Persian Gulf crisis Iran–Israel proxy conflict A missile strikes the Israeli-owned cargo ship MV Hyperion Ray off the coast of the United Arab Emirates. There is no immediate claim of responsibility, however Israeli officials suspect Iran of being behind the attack on the vessel. (Times of Israel) Terrorism in Pakistan, Insurgency in Balochistan An improvised explosive device explodes at a football ground in Hub, Balochistan, Pakistan, injuring twelve people. The attack occurred during a game organised as a commemorative tribute to police officers killed in the line of duty. (The Times of India) Nuclear program of Iran The New York Times says that a blackout at Iran's underground Natanz nuclear facility was sabotage perpetrated by remotely detonating an improvised explosive device that had previously been smuggled into the site. (i24news) A military court in Burkina Faso indicts (in absentia) ex-President Blaise Compaoré, who is charged with the 1987 murder of his immediate predecessor Thomas Sankara. Compaoré ruled the nation for 27 years following Sankara's assassination before resigning in the face of protests in 2014 and fleeing into exile in Ivory Coast. The court indicts thirteen other Burkinabé ex-officials accused of various crimes including murder. (Al Jazeera) Business and economy COVID-19 pandemic in Scotland, Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom Talks between rail workers and ScotRail aimed at preventing a strike collapse, as the rail firm cites financial pressures caused by the ongoing pandemic to justify refusing a pay raise and revocation of some day-off entitlements. The Unite union rejects this explanation. The Scottish Government and Transport Scotland are appraised of the situation. (The Glasgow Times) Disasters and accidents Discharge of radioactive water of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant Following a cabinet meeting, the Japanese government says it has decided to release 1.25 million tons of treated radioactive water from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant into the Pacific Ocean over the course of 30 years, after concluding there will be no negative impact on human health or the environment. The decision is opposed by South Korea, China, and Taiwan, while being supported by the United States. (Kyodo News) (BBC) (Reuters) 2021 Suez Canal obstruction A court in Ismailia grants the Egyptian Suez Canal Authority's request to seize CS Ever Given pending payment of a compensation claim of over US$900 million. (Bloomberg) 2019 Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress crash The National Transportation Safety Board concludes that pilot error and inadequate maintenance were behind the crash, which killed seven people, injured six others, and destroyed the historic aircraft. (The Connecticut Post) At least 20 children are killed during a fire at an school in Niamey, Niger. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Iran Iran reports a record 24,760 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 2,118,212. (Arab News) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Osaka Prefecture reports a record 1,099 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (The Japan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Syria Kurdish authorities impose a ten-day curfew in northeast Syria after a rapid increase of cases of COVID-19 in the region. The U.S.-backed Kurdish authorities also close all borders of its Syrian Democratic Forces territories with those controlled by the government and insurgent groups. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in France, variants of SARS-CoV-2 Prime Minister Jean Castex announces the suspension of flights from Brazil in order to prevent the spread of new variants of COVID-19 in the country. (Yahoo! News) COVID-19 pandemic in Spain President of Cantabria Miguel Ángel Revilla receives his first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. (ABC.es) COVID-19 pandemic in Turkey President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan announces a two-week partial lockdown across Turkey on Ramadan, which includes an expanded curfew from 7:00 p.m. and a ban on non-essential inter-city travel beginning tomorrow evening due to an increase in the number of COVID-19 cases. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Africa COVID-19 pandemic in South Africa South Africa voluntarily suspends its rollout of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration recommended temporarily suspending use of the vaccine due to rare cases of blood clots. (Business Tech) COVID-19 pandemic in South Sudan South Sudan President Salva Kiir Mayardit receives his first dose of the AstraZenaca vaccine. (AllAfrica) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 vaccination in the United States The United States suspends the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine following concerns of blood clots. (The New York Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina Argentina reports a record 27,001 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 2,578,946. (Página 12) COVID-19 pandemic in the Marshall Islands The Marshall Islands reaches an adult population vaccination rate of nearly 75%. After completing the urban areas, the Ministry of Health and Human Services plans to distribute Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines to the most remote islands of the country to vaccinate the rest of the population. The vaccines were provided as a donation by the United States. (RNZ) COVID-19 vaccine, variants of SARS-CoV-2 Moderna says its vaccine is 90% effective against COVID-19, and 95% effective against severe disease for six months after the second dose. It also says its vaccine is effective against the 501.V2 variant from South Africa. (CNBC) (The Times) Law and crime Terrorism in Germany 2020 Dresden knife attack An alleged ISIL recruiter goes on trial for stabbing two gay men in Dresden, killing one of them, because they were holding hands. The suspect has admitted to the attack and is charged with murder and attempted murder. (Pink News) Eleven alleged members of Gruppe S, an alleged far-right terror cell plotting anti-immigration attacks, go on trial in Stuttgart. A policeman accused of assisting the group also goes on trial. (BBC) 2020–2021 United States racial unrest, Daunte Wright protests Protests spread across the country over the police killing of Daunte Wright. Demonstrations and marches are held in New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, Portland, and other cities. (NPR) Terrorism in England, Crime in London A court sentences terror convict Sahayb Abu to life imprisonment with a minimum term of nineteen years for plotting a gun and knife attack in Dagenham, London. (BBC) St Paul's Cathedral bomb plot, Terrorism in Norway Authorities in Norway charge a man with involvement in a plot to bomb St Paul's Cathedral as well as plotting a similar attack in Norway. (BBC)

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(Posted) RD: Conn Findlay

Article: Conn Findlay (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press; The Washington Post
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (April 13). —Bloom6132 (talk) 20:28, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Tidy article, well referenced suitable for RD JW 1961 ^Talk 22:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Fully cited and comprehensive enough for RD. Uses x (talk • contribs) 23:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 23:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bobby Leonard

Article: Bobby Leonard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Indianapolis Star; Associated Press
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 23:55, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Sufficient coverage and sourcing.—Bagumba (talk) 02:16, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support definitely good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:12, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Fully referenced, and the citations check out. Uses x (talk • contribs) 08:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Per consensus above. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 10:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted My initial vote aside, consensus is clear.—Bagumba (talk) 10:53, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Warner

Article: Peter Warner (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sydney Morning Herald
Credits:

• Nominated by Spencer (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MerlinVtwelve (talk · give credit), Spencer (talk · give credit) and Vacant0 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian captain. Article covers key aspects of the subject's life in appropriate detail; referenced. Spencer^T•C 15:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Suggest Well-referenced, although we should clean up the article. It's not ready for RD *truly* until then. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 16:03, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support well cited Vacant0 (talk) 17:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 01:48, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 02:22, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Japan's cabinet approved dumping of radioactive water

Duplicate nom; see closed nom below. Spencer^T•C 15:32, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Discharge of radioactive water of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The Cabinet of Japan approved the Fukushima nuclear Plant to dump treated radioactive water to the Pacific Ocean over a course of 30 years. (Post)
News source(s): "Fukushima: Japan approves releasing wastewater into ocean". BBC. 2021-04-13.
Credits:

• Created by lovewhatyoudo (talk · give credit)
• Updated by lovewhatyoudo (talk · give credit)

Article updated

• Nominator comments: This is the first time since 2011 the Japanese government makes it clear to the world on how Japan would deal with the radioactive water. Reading the comments on the ITN nomination of #(Closed) Fukushima disaster cleanup (which was a different article), my responses are as follows.

• (1) Part of the "consensus" on rejecting #(Closed) Fukushima disaster cleanup was based on the poor focus and the poor quality of that article, not on the importance of the news per se. This is a different, new article, entirely focus on the water.
• (2) Some users voted "opposed" by claiming this is "old news". In fact, news on this before 13 April 2021 was just speculation by tabloids. The cabinet approval was handed down on 13 April 2021.
• (3) While some users rightly pointed out "the cabinet approved the dumping to happen two years later, not to happen now", being the "first ever cabinet decision on the matter" grants this news importance.
• -- love.wh 15:13, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - See consensus below. WP:SNOW for the below, and this isn't much different. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 14:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Part of the "consensus" was based on the poor quality of a separate article, not on the importance of the news per se. -- love.wh 15:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Almost everyone there opposed on notability too. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose and speedy close. We just had a discussion on this that closed as a clear consensus not to post. The fact that a new separate article has been created doesn't change the consensus. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:03, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Especially as this article just seems like a WP:CONTENTFORK so you can say there's a new article, and therefore start a new nomination. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:14, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

  The original article is large enough (> 70,000 bytes) this would need to be split from it anyway. Uses x (talk • contribs) 15:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

  The new article was entirely focus on water, different from the all-encompassing Fukushima disaster cleanup. How can this be WP:CONTENTFORK? Rather, this is a necessary main article. -- love.wh 15:27, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support - Significant global news, must read. STSC (talk) 15:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose New article is a hopeless mess of WP:SYN about various dumping events. I'm not even sure why this is a distinct article from the Fukushima clean-up article. It takes a scatter-shot approach to reporting on the events, and there's little in the way of narrative flow that makes the article very hard to follow, and not up to the standards I would expect for the main page. --Jayron32 15:27, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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(Closed) Fukushima disaster cleanup

Consensus will not develop to post. -- Fuzheado | Talk 11:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Fukushima disaster cleanup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Japanese Prime Minister Suga Yoshihide announces that more than 1 million tonnes of radioactive water will be dumped into the Pacific Ocean (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​The Japanese Government announces that treated radioactive water from the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant will be dumped into the ocean
Alternative blurb II: ​Japan announces that radioactive water from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster will be dumped into the ocean
News source(s): NHK News, KBS News, CGTN, Reuters, Global Times, The Guardian, Al Jazeera, ABC News, The Jakarta Post, The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by JMonkey2006 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Huge announcement in the aftermath of one of the largest nuclear disasters - Backlash from many Asian countries as well as environmental organisations JMonkey2006 (talk) 07:08, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose "Announcements".130.233.213.199 (talk) 08:21, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose The target article has multiple (flagged) problems, and it hasn't been updated to mention the announcement and the implications of it. I don't see any point in evaluating the notability of the announcement until that's done. Uses x (talk • contribs) 08:53, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose this was announced days ago. Is this a "confirmation" of the "announcement"? When they do dump billions of tons of vicious nuclear waste into the sea, that may become a news story (with related protests etc no doubt). The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality that article is nowhere near the standard of article we should be putting on front page- it was marked as outdated in 2017, and nothing has changed since then. Also, not sure this would be notable enough for ITN anyway, but that's irrelevant until the article is massively improved. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose they're not dumping raw water, it's going to be diluted with seawater and released with minimal radioactivity. Calm down. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:41, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Radioactive waste sounds scary, but this isn't barrels of glowing ooze like you see in the Simpsons. In reality it's sea- and rain-water that has gained a tiny amount of tritium (which also occurs naturally, albeit at lower levels). From the Guardian article linked above, expert consensus is "the treated water poses no scientifically detectable risk". It's a public relations problem, not a health risk or environmental disaster. Modest Genius ^talk 10:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Per [2], the International Atomic Energy Agency says "There is no scandal here" and an independent scientist says it "does not pose a health risk at all". Even the local fishermen don't object to the release itself, just the poor communication with the public that the water is safe. Modest Genius ^talk 10:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - This is not quite as bad as allowing an entire population to become irradiated and having them believe nothing is wrong. WaltCip-(talk) 11:28, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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April 12

Portal:Current events/2021 April 12

Current events of April 12, 2021 (2021-04-12) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Donbass Two Ukrainian soldiers are killed in front line clashes with separatist forces in the Donbass, thereby bringing the total number of troops killed in action this year to 29. Both died due to small arms fire. (The Defense Post) Arts and culture Death and funeral of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh The BBC receives a record 110,994 complaints over their coverage of Prince Philip's death, mostly due to the extent of the coverage. (The Guardian) Disasters and accidents 2021 Peru bus crash At least 20 people died in a bus crash in the Ancash Region in Peru. (CGTN) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland COVID-19 vaccination in the Republic of Ireland The National Immunisation Advisory Committee recommends that the Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine should only be given to people over 60 years old following concerns about rare blood clots. (Thejournal.ie) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom Lockdown restrictions are relaxed in England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales as the number of cases continues to reduce, with non-essential shops, pubs, gyms, restaurants, hairdressers, community centres, libraries, and theme parks permitted to reopen. Domestic holidays are also permitted again in England with members of the same household. A "stay at home" order is ended in Northern Ireland, and secondary school pupils from years 8–11 return to school. (BBC) Apple and Google reject an update by the National Health Service to their contact tracing app because it breaches their privacy rules. (The Daily Telegraph) COVID-19 pandemic in the Czech Republic Schools, libraries, zoos, and some stores in the Czech Republic reopen after months of closure as the six-month state of emergency expires and restrictions of movement are lifted. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Greece High schools in Greece reopen after five months of closure, with precautions such as wearing masks and COVID-19 testing for all teachers and students twice per week. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India COVID-19 vaccination in India India approves Russia's Sputnik V vaccine. (Reuters) India reports a record for the seventh consecutive day of 168,912 new confirmed cases of COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide total of cases to 13.52 million and surpassing Brazil to become the country with the second-highest total of infections. (Hindustan Times) (The Hill) COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh Bangladesh issues new lockdown rules that order the closure of all government, semi-government, autonomous, and private offices for one week beginning April 14, as well as suspension of all public transport. However, the government will allow factories to remain open. (Bdnews24.com) COVID-19 pandemic in Hong Kong Hong Kong announces that restaurants will be permitted to remain open until midnight and seat more customers, provided that all staff are vaccinated against COVID-19 and all patrons use a government tracking app. (The Hong Kong Standard) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record for the second consecutive day of 985 new confirmed cases of COVID-19, thereby bringing the nationwide total of cases to 33,610. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario Ontario Premier Doug Ford announces that all schools across the province will remain closed after April break and students will be forced to shift into online learning amid the rising number of COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations. (CP24) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States, COVID-19 drug development The U.S. government terminates a deal with Eli Lilly & Co. for 350,856 remaining doses of the single antibody bamlanivimab that were scheduled to be delivered by the end of March. The deal will instead be focused on a supply of combined antibodies with etesevimab. (Bloomberg) COVID-19 pandemic in Ghana COVID-19 vaccination in Ghana The Ghana Health Service says that over 700,000 people in the country has received their first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine. (Ghanaweb) COVID-19 pandemic in Solomon Islands Solomon Islands receives 50,000 doses of the Sinopharm BBIBP-CorV vaccine from China. (Solomon Times) China reports new cases of highly pathogenic H5N6 avian flu in wild birds in Liaoning, which is the country's first report of the disease since February 2020. (Reuters) French lawmakers vote to ban airlines from offering domestic flights if the same journey could be made by train in less than two and a half hours. (The Guardian) International relations Philippines–United States relations, Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the military Philippine and U.S. troops resume their annual Balikatan military exercises following last year's cancellation of the event due to the pandemic. (Reuters) War in Donbass, Ukraine–NATO relations Ukraine triggers Article 15 of the Charter on a Special Partnership, initiating an emergency meeting with NATO to discuss the Russian escalation in Donbass and the build-up of Russian forces on its border. The article was last triggered in 2018 during the Kerch Strait incident. (Ukranews) Cross-Strait relations Taiwan reports the largest incursion into its air defence identification zone to date by People's Liberation Army Air Force warplanes. Twenty-five aircraft entered its airspace, including nuclear-capable H-6K bombers and anti-submarine aircraft. The Chinese fleet flew in an area close to the disputed Pratas Island, according to Taiwan's Defence Ministry. (Reuters) Law and crime 2020–21 United States racial unrest, Daunte Wright protests Tensions between protesters and police intensified for the second night after the killing of Daunte Wright, a 20-year-old man who was shot by police at a traffic stop. Minnesota Governor Tim Walz imposes a curfew, and police begin firing gas canisters and flash-bang grenades. Some protesters, wearing gas masks, pick up smoke canisters and throw them back at police. About 40 arrests are made, ranging from curfew violation to rioting. (USA Today) A gunman on a motorcycle opens fire in front of a COVID-19 vaccination centre at a hospital in the 16th arrondissement of Paris, France, killing a man and wounding a female security guard before riding away. (Reuters) A serving officer with London's Metropolitan Police is sentenced to over two years in prison for an unprovoked attack on a black member of the public that left his victim with a broken leg, in what the judge described as "a clear case of racial profiling." (CNN) Politics and elections 2021 Peruvian general election Far-left candidate Pedro Castillo is expected to win the first round of the presidential election. His opponent in the runoff election in June is still to be determined, amidst a political and economic crisis. (Reuters)

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RD: Galen Weston

Article: Galen Weston (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN Globe and Mail
Credits:

• Nominated by Floydian (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Llammakey (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian business magnate, head of the Loblaws family of retail chains. Article needs some citations but is in pretty good shape overall. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 14:33, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose "Expansion" and "Holt Renfrew" sections have almost 0 sources. Would also be able to get sources for the couple of other cn tags too. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:10, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ady Steg

Article: Ady Steg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of Israel
Credits:

• Nominated by Spencer (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jmanlucas (talk · give credit) and Spencer (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: French urologist and Holocaust survivor; updated and referenced. Spencer^T•C 01:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support – well-sourced; looks like it meets the minimum requirements. —Bloom6132 (talk) 02:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support - came to nominate ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:34, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Fully referenced and a decent length. Uses x (talk • contribs) 08:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:01, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support looks fine for RD. Have marked as ready. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 12:51, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Shirley Williams

Article: Shirley Williams (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Black Kite (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British politician, former minister who was one of the original four founders of the SDP. Article needs a significant number of citations. Black Kite (talk) 15:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support - Looks good to me. The citations are significantly better than some other articles on RD. RIP. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 17:45, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I can't think of a single RD article that we've posted with multiple paragraphs lacking citations. Spencer^T•C 18:04, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I see someone removed the very relevant orange tag for more citations needed. Multiple paragraphs unsourced, nowhere near good enough sourcing to be on the front page. I suggest people find sources rather than just removing the orange tag. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:11, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose orange tag. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 22:55, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support when citations resolved. It's been vastly improved over the course of the day, but there are still some gaps (uninvolved editor's eyes needed?). Moscow Mule (talk) 23:50, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support - Farewell to a member of "Gang of Four". STSC (talk) 00:07, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support - Sourcing issues now sorted. Article is fully sourced. 213.205.194.86 (talk) 06:45, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support looks well sourced to me. Polyamorph (talk) 06:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 08:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support looks good to go now, marked as ready. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:47, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Can't see what's stopping it. One of Leeds' finest, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:49, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Marked as ready five hours ago....? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:53, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Martinevans123: I posted the one above, but I can't post this one as I nominated it, and Spencer has commented on it as well. Black Kite (talk) 13:55, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I might have guessed. It's like the old boys club round here! Maybe mark as Attention needed? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 15:33, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing: Northern Ireland riots

Consensus to post will not develop. Closing without prejudice to open at later date if appropriate. (nominator close) Kingsif (talk) 05:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: 2021 Northern Ireland riots (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Kingsif (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Looks like it's about to roll off with the Masters. Kingsif (talk) 06:58, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Is this actually still ongoing? I'm not seeing anything in the article taking place past 9 April, and didn't see anything new on the front pages of Guardian or BBC. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:04, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• They are still happening (worsening it seems), but 1. Philip is now all the British news, all the time, 2. if the article isn't getting frequent updates it shouldn't be posted. Kingsif (talk) 07:37, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  It's not Philip pushing it out, literally nothing has happened for days. CTRL + F, and search for "riot": Irish Times RTÉ Irish Independent The Journal, Northern Ireland news sites: Irish News (Nationalist bias), Belfast Telegraph (Unionist bias). Believe me, I'm Irish, I live in Ireland, and nothing has happened since Friday. Uses x (talk • contribs) 14:15, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Interesting. It was on all the TV news in NI yesterday, though (last, behind a half hour of Philip), so I won't take your word for it. Kingsif (talk) 16:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  That was commentary, not reporting. If something actually happened yesterday please share and I'll alert the press. Uses x (talk • contribs) 17:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose for now. Aside from a bit of commentary, it's out of all the Irish newspapers and news sites. The last update to the article was from three days ago. If something major happens (and it's obvious the protests will continue even longer) I'd support it going onto ongoing then. Uses x (talk • contribs) 08:52, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support - It's definitely an ongoing event and getting more serious. STSC (talk) 11:43, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support ongoing and updating. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:56, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I am myself quite interested in NI history and politics, so I understand the implications here. But by any of the ordinary objective standards we use to judge protests (the size of gatherings, number of injuries/deaths, damage to property, prevention of ordinary activity), this is small potatoes. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:07, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm totally agree with GreatCaesarsGhost. Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:14, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Don't see much going on here. – Sca (talk) 15:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as per everyone else. Nothing is happening. It shouldn't have even been blurbed. --Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 15:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose the ongoing impact is not significant enough for Ongoing section. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose It's literally not a thing atm. There's some sporadic (read: a few lads pissing it up on the Row or Lanark), but most of it's been suspended to show—you'll love this!—respect during the mourning period. Oy vey, old man dies; Catholics don't get firebombed. ——Serial 16:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• I think the point is things are still happening, so judge by article updates. The repeated comments that there's nothing in X newspaper aren't helpful (though yours was quite funny) Kingsif (talk) 16:34, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Largely absent from main RS sites Monday. – Sca (talk) 18:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• There's actual rioting elsewhere in the world, but that won't get posted... Howard the Duck (talk) 19:14, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• You're free to nominate that... Kingsif (talk) 20:52, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  Somebody already nominated the Myanmar protests. Well, not exactly rioting, but 100 died in a day a few weeks(?) ago but people rejected since it's already at ongoing. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:04, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Ah, I thought you were talking about the rioting in Minnesota. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 21:06, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• I also thought you meant Minnesota. Saw Myanmar and was sure that it was, indeed, in ongoing. Because I also thought the objection was to the fact someone had considered nominating riots for ongoing. Howard, you've got me all confused, what is annoying you and is it relevant? Kingsif (talk) 21:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Sorry about that. I didn't know about the new Minnesota riots. Now that's why the Timberwolves game was postponed and left many fantasy NBA pissed pissed. Either way, the Myanmar civil disturbances are putting every rioter in shame, but not enough for it to be posted here. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:13, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• I don't seem to understand your objections. It is currently posted on the main page. It says "Myanmar protests" right there! Right now! This isn't new; it has been on the main page for weeks. --Jayron32 16:56, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• A few weeks ago, there was a day where Myanmar killed 100 of its people during the protests. This was rejected at ITN/C because it's already ongoing. That was a poor decision as that would've "unpinned" the article from ongoing and we would not be needing another discussion to remove it if it becomes stale. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• So you're upset that the Myanmar protests are still on Ongoing? If that is the case, you should start a direct discussion to remove it. I see you haven't done that yet. --Jayron32 17:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• I'm upset that the Myanmar protests weren't promoted to a standard blurb when the state supposedly killed 100 of its own people, because it is "ongoing" (and some downplayed or doubted the event). I suppose there's no !rule preventing an article in ongoing being promoted back to a blurb (and being removed from ongoing) but people have used that non-rule to prevent articles in ongoing promoted back to blurbs. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• And the Boat Race!! The HUMANITY! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• You've set the klaxons off, now. Kingsif (talk) 21:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• It's only a matter of time before it gets brought up, thought I'd get a pre-emptive mention in! THE HUMANITY!! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Let it roll off. This was pretty borderline to add in the first place, and I agree with GCG above. Modest Genius ^talk 10:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose According to the article itself, the last significant, widespread, rioting occurred on and around April 7-8, with isolated incidents of vandalism and hooliganry occurring sporadically since then. Not as widespread as it was 5-6 days ago, and with little worth reporting since then, it seems like this is not really "ongoing" anymore. If it becomes sustained and widespread again in the future, with clear evidence of such in the article writing, I'd be perfectly willing to reconsider at that point. But as of now, it's not there. --Jayron32 16:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

You don't have to wait until the whole Northern Ireland is burning. The article has been "regularly updated with new, pertinent information", that's the real criteria for "ongoing". STSC (talk) 18:12, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Meets the criteria for ongoing. Flip^andFlopped ツ 18:35, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment -- Given that consensus will not develop to place in ongoing, can someone please close this section? -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 04:15, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) Guillermo Lasso elected President of Ecuador

Article: 2021 Ecuadorian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Guillermo Lasso (pictured) is elected the 47th President of Ecuador. (Post)
News source(s): The Wall Street Journal, Associated Press, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Lasso's article has been updated and well sourced. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:37, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: Target article should be the elections article (changed the nom to reflect such). 2021 Ecuadorian general election is almost there: results section needs to be updated with prose about the second round results. Spencer^T•C 04:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Aren't election results ITN/R? Mlb96 (talk) 06:11, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  Mlb96, Yes, but they still have to be proposed and the articles discussed/assessed for quality JW 1961 ^Talk 08:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  I'm aware. When I made that comment, this was nominated as a regular ITN nomination with a blue background, not as ITN/R. Mlb96 (talk) 23:25, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose 2021_Ecuadorian_general_election#Second_round_by_province is empty and missing summary prose on final round.—Bagumba (talk) 14:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Bagumba Joseywales1961 Spencer I've just added the results by province in the 2nd round from the CNE's info. Now I'm working to make the table more visual, but the article now may be ready. Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:38, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Done. Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:49, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Alsoriano97: the results section needs a prose summary of the second round voting results, and once that is done, I'm willing to support. Spencer^T•C 17:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Spencer I have made some progress. If you think it's not enough, I'll get to it after dinner. Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:53, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article updated. Spencer^T•C 19:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Nice work improving the article Alsoriano97 JW 1961 ^Talk 20:33, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Joseywales1961! Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:03, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support This fits the definition of a notable event, especially considering how this has signaled a political shift away from the traditionally left-leaning and leftist candidates who have been President in the past. Articles look good too JohnHawkinsBois (talk) 22:32, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posting. I'll omit the number. Feel free to update the photo at some point. --Tone 07:23, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Severe Tropical Cyclone Seroja

Consensus to post will not develop. Stephen 00:27, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Cyclone Seroja (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Severe Tropical Cyclone Seroja makes landfall on the Western Australian coast (Post)
News source(s): ABC News, SBS News, The Guardian, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by JMonkey2006 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Major weather event; same cyclone that impacted Timor-Leste and Indonesia (also listed on News) JMonkey2006 (talk) 00:53, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose This storm isn't particularly strong and it's impacts in Australia are minimal. We already posted the hundreds of deaths in indonesia/timor leste, so I see no reason to post the one death in Australia. 2600:8807:5681:2400:D8C8:2F91:321D:C5A2 (talk) 02:03, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wait but leaning oppose If the extent of damage is limited to deaths in the single digits, this is not really the type of storm we'd post to ITN. --Masem (t) 02:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per IP User HurricaneEdgar 02:14, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per IP. We don't post strong storm systems that cause no damage, either. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 05:37, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose weather making landfall is not newsworthy. Substantial impacts of weather on people, infrastructure etc might be newsworthy. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:04, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment It is rare for a cyclone to make landfall so far south in Western Australia. Even rarer for a category three to make landfall where it did. This is not just a regular cyclone. Steelkamp (talk) 11:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Landfalls aren't notable no matter where they occur. Impact is what's important and this had minimal in Australia. Noah^Talk 11:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – BBC reports "a trail of damage." – Sca (talk) 13:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Don't they all leave "a trail of damage"? So far the impacts in Australia aren't really noteworthy enough to post, and this is especially reflected by the article. So what if it's the "strongest to hit X town in X many years", these records are set and broken every single year. Gex4pls (talk) 19:04, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Exactly. If the loss of life isn't there, then the damage would have to be pretty significant for us to post, like if this had completely demolished the Syndey Opera House (I know, wrong coast, but trying to come up with local example). --Masem (t) 20:19, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

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April 11

Portal:Current events/2021 April 11

Current events of April 11, 2021 (2021-04-11) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Nuclear program of Iran Iran reports that a blackout at its underground Natanz nuclear facility is an act of nuclear terrorism and says that they reserve the right to respond, but it does not specify who was responsible or how they would respond. Parts of the electrical grid at Iran's main nuclear facilities at Natanz have been compromised. Intelligence sources claim in Israeli media that the Mossad intelligence agency carried out a cyber attack on the facility. (Al Jazeera) War in Donbass A Ukrainian soldier is killed and another is seriously wounded by Russian separatist forces artillery fire on the front line in Eastern Ukraine, bringing the total number of troops killed in combat this year to 27. (AP) Arts and culture The Cambodian Ministry of Culture and exiled politician Mu Sochua condemn American-Canadian digital media company Vice for publishing an article about an art project aiming to colorize photographs of inmates interred at Khmer Rouge-era prison Tuol Sleng, after social media users noticed that the photos were edited to have the subjects smiling. The article was subsequently deleted. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents Sohag train collision Egypt's prosecution service declares that nobody was at the controls of one of the trains that collided last month, in an accident that killed 20 people and injured around 200. (The New Arab) Rescue operations commence in Hutubi, Xinjiang, China, after a coal mine floods, trapping workers. Eight miners have been freed, but 21 still remain trapped. (BBC) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India India reports 152,879 new confirmed cases of COVID-19, a record for the sixth consecutive day. The country also reports 839 deaths in the past 24 hours, which is the highest daily total since October 18. (Business Standard) The Ministry of Health and Family Welfare bans the export of the anti-viral drug Remdesivir, and the ingredients used to make it, following an increase in the number of COVID-19 cases. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh Bangladesh reports 78 deaths from COVID-19, a record for the second consecutive day, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 9,739. (Dhaka Tribune) COVID-19 pandemic in Iraq Iraq receives 50,000 doses of the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Pakistan Pakistan reports 114 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, which is the highest number of deaths this year, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 15,443. (Geo News) COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines The Greater Manila Area, the provinces of Abra and Quirino, and the city of Santiago, Isabela, are placed under the looser modified enhanced community quarantine until the end of April. (Rappler) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record 967 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of cases to 32,625. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia COVID-19 vaccination in Australia Prime Minister Scott Morrison abandons the country's plan to vaccinate all Australians by the end of the year amidst medical advice that makes the vaccination program uncertain. (ABC Australia) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in California California surpasses 60,000 deaths from COVID-19. (The Los Angeles Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Cameroon Cameroon receives 200,000 doses of the Sinovac BBIBP-CorV vaccine from China, which will be used in the first phase of their vaccination campaign. (Barron's) COVID-19 pandemic in France Health Minister Olivier Véran confirms that all people aged 55 and over would be eligible for a vaccine starting tomorrow, which is a week earlier than originally scheduled, with AstraZeneca, and a single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccines. (The Connexion) COVID-19 vaccine, 501.V2 variant An Israeli study finds that the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine may be less effective against the South African variant when compared to other strains of the virus. (Reuters) Law and crime Killing of Daunte Wright, Daunte Wright protests A police officer in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, a suburb of Minneapolis, kills a man during an attempted arrest following a traffic stop, leading to rioting and looting in the city and surrounding areas. (Minneapolis Star-Tribune) An Egyptian court sentences university student Ahmed Bassam Zaki to an additional eight years in prison for sexually assaulting and blackmailing at least three women between 2016 and 2020. The case led to a public debate about sexual harassment and abuse within the country. Zaki was previously sentenced to three years in prison by a different court in December. (Reuters) Seven Catholic clergy, including two French citizens, are kidnapped in Croix-des-Bouquets, Ouest, Haiti. (Philippine Daily Inquirer) Politics and elections 2021 Peruvian general election, 2017–2021 Peruvian political crisis Peruvians head to the polls to elect their president after having four presidents in four years. (CNN) 2021 Chadian presidential election Chadians head to the polls to elect their president. Incumbent Idriss Déby is expected to extend his three-decade mandate. (Reuters) 2021 Beninese presidential election After violent days of protests, Beninese citizens head to the polls to elect their president. Incumbent Patrice Talon is expected to win his second term as most of his rivals are either in prison or in exile. (Al Jazeera) 2021 Ecuadorian general election Centre-right candidate Guillermo Lasso defeats socialist Andrés Arauz in the second round of voting in Ecuador for the presidency. (The Wall Street Journal) 2021 Kyrgyz constitutional referendum Kyrgyz citizens head to the polls on a referendum to reform the Constitution. If approved, it would increase the powers of incumbent populist President Sadyr Zhaparov and allow him to run for a second term. It would also reduce the size of the parliament by 25%. (DW) 2021 German federal election Bavarian minister president Markus Söder and leader of the ruling Christian Democratic Union Armin Laschet announce their respective candidacies to succeed current Chancellor Angela Merkel after the federal elections take place. (Bloomberg) Sports 2021 Masters Tournament Hideki Matsuyama wins the 85th edition of the Masters to become first male Japanese major champion. (Reuters) WrestleMania 37 The first WWE show with fans in attendance since March 2020 takes place in Tampa, Florida, US. (CBS Sports)

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RD: Massimo Cuttitta

Article: Massimo Cuttitta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian international rugby player and coach. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:37, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose – "Early life" and "Club rugby" sections, as well as the stats in the infobox, are unsourced. —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) British Academy Film Awards

Article: 74th British Academy Film Awards (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​At the 74th British Academy Film Awards, Nomadland wins four awards, including Best Film and Best Director for Chloé Zhao (pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​At the 74th British Academy Film Awards, Nomadland wins four awards, including Best Film and Best Actress for Frances McDormand (pictured).
Alternative blurb II: ​At the British Academy Film Awards, Nomadland (writer and director Chloé Zhao pictured) wins Best Film along with three other awards.
Alternative blurb III: ​BAFTA conducts the 74th British Academy Film Awards ceremony.
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Kingsif (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Updated with ceremony details. If using a McDormand blurb, there is an image of her at the article, too. Both Zhao and McDormand are mentioned in the Best Film citation so neither blurb as currently phrased would be inaccurate/open to misinterpretation. Kingsif (talk) 06:48, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support good enough. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:07, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Currrent blurbs could be misread as if Best Film also went to Zhao/McDormand.—Bagumba (talk) 08:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  • See nom comment... Kingsif (talk) 08:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
    • OK, I read the nom differently the first time. I think you mean "WINNER - NOMADLAND Mollye Asher, Dan Janvey, Frances McDormand, Peter Spears, Chloé Zhao"[3]—Bagumba (talk) 08:29, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Yep, they both get two! If it is a concern, the awards in the blurb could simply be switched, i.e. "... Best Director/Actress for X and Best Film." Kingsif (talk) 08:32, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  • ITNR only mentions including Best Film. In 2019 with winner Roma, we only posted a picture of the director, with no mention that he also won Best Director.[4] I've add ALT II (including other copyedits).—Bagumba (talk) 09:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support ALT II Suffient coverage and sourcing. Leave focus on Best Film per WP:ITNR and past years' blurbs.—Bagumba (talk) 11:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment added alt3 with no meaningful context at all --LaserLegs (talk) 11:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks, ALT3 looks really useful and not like you're trying to prove some kind of point by adding meaningless blurbs to multiple nominations..... Joseph2302 (talk) 14:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support ALT2 as the ITNR is for best film. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted with ALT2. Black Kite (talk) 15:03, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Enzo Sciotti

Article: Enzo Sciotti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sciotti's Instagram, Movieplayer.it, Kotaku
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Kingsif (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with their own Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian artist that did thousands of iconic movie poster art in the 1980s and beyond. Article probably could be longer Masem (t) 03:25, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Technically a stub, but well-referenced and would support on principle. If you can double the prose size it would be good to go. Kingsif (talk) 05:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

@Kingsif: "but well-referenced" - ??? Uses x (talk • contribs)

@Uses x: Your ping didn't work, but I looked to the ref list when I saw missing inline cites and the Guardian article there is good (the way it's been added as a source but not inline is an old ref format that just needs sorting). If information from it can be taken and added to the article, it should be mostly fine. Filmography might be on BFI but that's the real issue. If I had an hour I wasn't dedicating to something else, I'd do it. Kingsif (talk) 19:16, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support with update. Kingsif (talk) 08:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Current readble prose size of 1074B is too short. Filmography needs sourcing.—Bagumba (talk) 10:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose A stub which is very poorly sourced. Not only is most of the text uncited, the citations that are there are mostly from blogs and user-generated wikis. Uses x (talk • contribs) 14:56, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Support With the update it's more comprehensive and fully cited. @Bagumba: ping in case you don't see it. Uses x (talk • contribs) 09:00, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I found that hour (20 minutes) and have updated the article a little, now no longer a stub and refs should be satis. Kingsif (talk) 08:24, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 10:43, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Masters Tournament

Article: 2021 Masters Tournament (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​In golf, Hideki Matsuyama wins the Masters Tournament. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​In golf, Hideki Matsuyama wins the Masters Tournament to become the first Japanese male to claim a major golf championship.
News source(s): CNN–B/R, USA Today
Credits:

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Created by Johnsmith2116 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Compy90 (talk · give credit), Johnsmith2116 (talk · give credit) and Nigej (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 23:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 01:09, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support satis Kingsif (talk) 05:40, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Field and Final round sections both have unreferenced paragraphs. Stephen 07:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  @Stephen: done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:27, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• question: the headlines of reliable news sources appear to either mention that matsuyama is the first japanese male to win a golf major or that he is the first asian-born winner of the masters. should the blurb include one of these descriptions as well? dying (talk) 07:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  Dying, normally ITN blurbs don't include trivia like that, but that could certainly go in the article itself. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:27, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

If "new records" don't often happen, they won't often appear in blurbs, but look at the current Grand National one. Kingsif (talk) 07:38, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Per WP:ITN: Blurbs should avoid sensationalism ... Every listed event can practically be described as a first for a specific location and/or situation. Perhaps the Grand National was an WP:IAR for one of the two gender assignments, while there are many more nationalities. That said, the headlines consistently allude to his nationality: "Hideki Matsuyama victorious at Masters, becomes first Japanese man to win major" ESPN, "The Masters 2021: Japan’s Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga leads celebrations after Hideki Matsuyama’s historic win" The Independent, "Hideki Matsuyama Wins the Masters With a Groundbreaking Performance" The New York Times—Bagumba (talk) 07:44, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Oppose mention of ethnicity/nationality as the event is ITN/R – plenty notable result without the need for qualifiers. Also, the way in which we would have to frame it to be a record (e.g. "first Japanese man" "first Asian-born champion") reeks of sensationalism. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Posted. I fixed the error in the lead before doing so. Incidentally, how anti-intuitive is a scorecard system that has red for birdie and green for bogey? Black Kite (talk) 07:58, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Post-post blurb expand Support ALT blurb, expanding that he's the first Japanese male to win a major title. It's pretty much in the lead of every news story.—Bagumba (talk) 08:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose expanded blurb - he wasn't playing for Japan, he was playing for him so his nationality is trivial. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:33, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment replace it with "In golf, the 2021 Masters Tournament concludes". Not adding any meaningful context to blurbs is an asset to our readers, really, and it solves the question around the nationality of the winner. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:52, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  What a strange suggestion. Anyone would think you're trying to make yet another point? The name of the winner is fine, the "first male Japanese" clause is trivia. And P.S. we don't include the year in blurbs for ITN, thought you'd know that. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:55, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

• Comment So we blurb the first female for the Grand National ITNR (just below) but the first Japanese for the Masters is "trivial".—Bagumba (talk) 01:54, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

≈50% of the world's population vs. ≈1.6%? AllegedlyHuman (talk) 03:37, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

But No. 3 in world GDP. —Bagumba (talk) 09:37, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing: Uyghur genocide

Consensus to post to ongoing will not develop. Stephen 01:55, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

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Article: Uyghur genocide (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNN, USA Today
Credits:

• Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Horse Eye's Back (talk · give credit), MarkH21 (talk · give credit), Oranjelo100 (talk · give credit) and Mikehawk10 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Both "continuously updated" and "frequently in the news." Article is "regularly updated with new, pertinent information" – judging by the page's history, updates are added nearly every day to detail the evolving situation. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:00, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support – It's ready. Oranjelo100 (talk) 07:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – This has been ongoing for years. We can blurb important developments when they occur. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 08:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I can't change that it wasn't on ITN in the past. The fact of the matter is, as you said, that it's ongoing. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 11:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, ongoing like the Israeli–Palestinian_conflict and Darfur genocide and Rohingya genocide and Somali Civil War and War in Afghanistan (2001–present) and Syrian Civil War...let's permalist all those too. Yes the world is a dark place. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 18:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support – This has been a significant news item over the past week. Turkey summoned the Chinese Ambassador and issuing what at least one expert called the "most public rebuke of China in more than a decade." (For context, Erdogan accused China of committing genocide against the Uyghurs in 2009). China released a musical as a part of an intense propaganda campaign to deny its human rights abuses against ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang (a quote used in the NYT article was declared to be the NYT Quotation of the Day.) China has been intensifying its attacks against Uyghurs and Uyghur allies overseas, China has sentenced Uyghur officials to death, France is seeing a court case filed against multinationals relating to labor rights abuses in Xinjiang, and there are public discussions among the United States and its allies regarding whether or not to boycott the Winter Olympics, earning a response from Beijing. The Uyghur genocide is indisputably in the news, and it is one of the biggest stories currently. I believe that the article would be certainly fitting for inclusion here. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 08:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose The article is high quality and fully cited, but I have to question the word "genocide", as it's not completely agreed on (the BBC article states it's an allegation, for example), and it's not comprehensive enough about what's happening; I think the term "persecution" should be used for the title instead. Is there any reason against this, or should I suggest a rename? The article is also one-sided, with mostly commentary from activists and NGOs, and little commentary from China or its allies; you don't need to believe it (I don't), but it has to be given in the article. Uses x (talk • contribs) 09:07, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Uses x, this title was very recently decided on in an extensive talk page discussion, which resulted in a one-year moratorium. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:12, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

@AllegedlyHuman That was changing the name from "Uyghur cultural genocide" to "Uyghur genocide". None of the titles the article has had or have been suggested, giving five in total, have used the word "persecution", so my point hasn't been discussed yet. The moratorium isn't an endorsement of the current name, so "If it becomes clear in the intervening 12 months that a better name exists" I can suggest it on the talk page, but that would take over seven days so I can't support the current nomination anyway, unless I'm convinced "genocide" is the widely-accepted term. Uses x (talk • contribs) 09:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

See FAQ point two: "If I wish to rename the page, should I go ahead and open a move request?" "No." AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:24, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Uses x (talk • contribs) 09:29, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

@Uses x: The title "Persecution of Uyghurs" was proposed in a February 2021 move request, which resulted in not moved, with nobody other than the nominator supporting it. The discussion was not as lengthy as the April 1 move discussion, but there was still a consensus present not to move the page. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 18:39, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

@Mikehawk10 "was not as lengthy" - that's an understatement if I've ever heard one. The singular oppose doesn't deal with what I said, as the IP user who suggested it didn't give any kind of rationale for the change, and the current name was based on other factors ("cultural genocide" vs. "genocide"), so I'm not convinced.

Take a look at the talk page for the recent rename, and tell me there isn't a huge amount of personal research and WP:ACTIVISM there. Remember, the editors who are even involved in article re-naming are usually those involved in the article itself (and look at the sheer number of now banned, recently registered, and IP users in that bunch), so talk page concensus doesn't necessarily equal ITN concensus. Uses x (talk • contribs) 19:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Agreed that there is some activism going on that has led to breaches of the WP:NPA policy (such as this edit). I also think that Go Phightins!, the administrator who closed the most recent move discussion (which once again found an affirmative consensus to keep the page at Uyghur genocide), correctly closed things in a way that reflects consensus achieved on the article talk. Obviously, there can be different local consensuses in different places when there is no global consensus, so talk page consensus doesn't necessarily equal ITN consensus. That being said, it seems that the proper place to challenge article neutrality is in the article talk itself, not a separate venue, as this would help to keep the discussions on the article in a consistent place that editors can more easily discover and engage with. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 22:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support - for article subject and overall article quality. Any concerns raised though should probably be fixed before posting.BabbaQ (talk) 09:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Uses x. As long as this article is calling something a "genocide" despite reliable sources not yet referring to it as such, it's not suitable for inclusion on the main page. The closer of the recent RM acknowledged that the title was problematic, but appears to have closed it as "not moved" on the grounds that no better title has been proposed. That may be the case, but it doesn't make the current title suddenly OK. I also agree with TarkusAB's oppose - this tragedy did not begin recently, it's been going since 2014, and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight - if we put it up, then we're basically saying it's going to be up for the next five years. There haven't been significant new developments in the past week and it's unclear why this is being proposed now rather than at any other time.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:40, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Disagree that "there haven't been significant new developments in the past week" per Mikehawk10. And as the nominator, I'll tell you frankly: I nominated it now because I thought of it now. Should it have been nominated in the past? Probably, but I can't go back and change that. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 11:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

OK that's fair enough, you thought of it now, and my point is not to say that nothing has happened recently. This is an "ongoing" event in the sense that terrible things are happening to people on the ground on a daily basis. I'm not belittling it at all. But as tragic and concerning as that is, that isn't what the ITN "Ongoing" section is all about. There are several ongoing conflicts and tragedies in the world right now - the never-ending wars in the middle-east, the War in Donbass, unrest in Venezuela, the persecution of Rohingyas, wars in Africa etc. etc. But the question is whether anything going on those conflicts amounts to global breaking news that we might consider posting as an individual story. When I do a Google news search for "Uighur" I don't see anything that would ever be considered as an ITN story in its own right. And honestly, from personal experience as someone who reads the UK news, nothing on this has crossed my radar this week. That may be a fault in the way international outlets are reporting it, but it's also not our job to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 11:49, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Support - but as per BabbaQ. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per Amakuru. Allegations of Chinese genocidal activities have been shooting for quite a while, and should have been nominated earlier if it was proven true. Until there are boots on the ground to verify the allegations, I would rather this be held off. – robertsky (talk) 10:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose These alleged human rights abuses have been occuring for years now. Officially, the Chinese Government says that there are no currently operating internment camps in Xinjiang. There is no evidence that Uyghurs are still being arbitrarily detained, let alone at a mass level. If new evidence arises that this alleged "genocide" or "ethnocide" is still occurring, its status as an ongoing event should be reassessed. JMonkey2006 (talk) 10:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Moral Support - clearer important but per TarkusAB this is not recent news and needs ITN context. Polyamorph (talk) 10:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose: But if our goal is to turn Wikipedia into a US State Department mouthpiece, then let's go right ahead. -Thucydides411 (talk) 10:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

"Please do not accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN." AllegedlyHuman (talk) 11:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I haven't accused anyone of anything. I'm saying that we shouldn't push an obviously non-neutral article into ITN that parrots the US State Department's allegations. Those allegations are widely contested, not least by the US State Department's own legal advisors. See, for example, this article, which describes how the political appointees at the US State Department ignored the legal advisors and accused China of genocide. The article Uyghur genocide puts extreme claims into Wikivoice, despite the fact that reliable sources describe these claims as allegations. This is not the sort of content that we should be pushing onto the front page. -Thucydides411 (talk) 12:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

You essentially called me and every support voter a fed for daring to think that a current genocide is in fact major world news. Now, I have a pretty thick skin, but you ought to strike that remark for those who don't. If you have concerns about neutrality, oppose on that principle and, if you're really so concerned about the article's current form, I would strongly encourage you to follow up on it by taking it to the article's talk page, making a better encyclopedia for all. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 12:14, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Per reliable sources, these are allegations of genocide, made by the US State Department, contradicting its own legal advisors. There's a difference between allegations and facts, and it's important to note this distinction on Wikipedia. Putting an unproven (and heavily contested) allegation in Wikivoice is bad enough. We shouldn't then push this non-neutral material to the front page. -Thucydides411 (talk) 13:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Besides for the Chinese government nobody appears to be contesting the allegations of human rights abuses, WP:RS have confirmed the allegations as far as they have been able to. Also just FYI the page name predates that US State Department designation as you well know because you participated in the naming discussion, your personal attacks are inaccurate as well as hurtful. Just because you personally don’t agree with a community consensus does not mean you can disrespect it or lie about it. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

64 UN member states have signed a declaration rejecting the allegations - far more than have supported them. Even the US State Department's own legal advisors advised that the accusation was unsupported by the evidence, but they were overruled by the political appointees. RS specifically describe "genocide" as an allegation in this case, and attribute the allegation to the specific parties making it, as has been shown over and over again at Talk:Uyghur_genocide. The fact that reliable sources report that allegations have been made does not mean that those allegations are true, as the Iraq WMD fiasco illustrates. -Thucydides411 (talk) 15:43, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

To be fair, usually edits or discussions which aim to sway an article to pro-Chinese or anti-Western views are quite often met with "CCP trolls" or "wumao". I'm not saying that we should be allowing accusations of ethnocentrism, but we should be careful about applying double standards especially on a Euro and American centric website if we are to aim for a clear, balanced and worldwide take on topics. 58.167.153.79 (talk) 12:30, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - (1) per Uses x. The article name is contested, (2) Not particularly in the news (looked on the front and "world news" pages of several major news organisations and searched for "Uyghur" with no hits. AntiVan (talk) 12:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose the CPC isn't going to stop because we stuck this article in ongoing. It will continue for generations until the Uyghur people are assimilated, exterminated, or driven out and the region repopulated with Han Chinese. Are we really going to leave this in the box that long? It's akin to putting Climate Change or Israeli–Palestinian_conflict into the box it is never ever ever going to stop. Nominate the occasional "blurb-worthy" event instead please. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:53, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Nominate the "blurb-worthy" event instead please. Otherwise we end up filling the infobox with ongoing events, like Rohingya genocide,Yemeni Genocide all of which are current. When US designated a genocide in January 2021, that was a good point for "blurb-worthy" nomination. Albertaont (talk) 15:08, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - Same old allegations do not qualify as "ongoing" for ITN. STSC (talk) 16:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose As far as I could see the only legitimate support is from the nominator itself and Mikehawk10. All other supports other than that doesn't clearly state the reasoning. The oppose section raised various concerns regarding the neutrality of the article title and the content, and the fact that putting in on ongoing is an act of WP:RGW as the event itself has been going on for several years and the recent coverage is just about the "expose" part. One IP user pointed out to balance the take of the topics.

Meanwhile, the only support for this ongoing based it on the fact that there has been continuous widespread coverage over the past week. Judging through the refutations of the nominator on oppose comments, the nominator nominates this item due to the continuous development of the event's article in Wikipedia and the recent widespread coverage. The nominator refutes the neutrality allegation put forward by the oppose, stating that the matter has been discussed for a while and there is a moratorium for that. The nominator recommends whoever questioned the support to bring it up on the talkpage.

Judging by the weight of both opinions, I oppose the notion of nominating this item for ongoing. The continuous coverage of the event is only for the various actions of nation in response to the event and not for the existence of the event itself. Other than that, I believe that this article is sufficiently neutral due to the continuous consensus. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - While I do believe this is a genocide, what I do not believe is that this is a recent event. This has been ongoing for YEARS, the Myanmar protests and the COVID-19 pandemic have not (albeit the latter has been occurring for c. 1 year, so touche. Also per Albertaont, the blurb? Maybe. Ongoing? No thanks. We needn't flood the Ongoing page, shall we? Fakescientist8000 (talk) 21:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
• Suggest close with consensus to not post. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:49, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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