Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS. Archives of past nominations can be found here.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

A blurb is a one sentence summary of the news story. An alternate suggestion for the blurb is called an altblurb, and any more suggestions get labelled alt1, alt2, etc. A blurb needs at least one target article, highlighted in bold; reviewers check the quality of that article and whether it is updated, and whether reliable sources demonstrate the significance of the event. Other articles can also be linked. The Ongoing line is for regularly updated articles which cover events that remain in the news over a longer period of time. RD stands for the "recent deaths" line, and can include any living thing whose death was recently announced. In some cases, recent deaths may need additional explanation as provided by a blurb; this is decided by consensus.

Olaf Scholz
Olaf Scholz

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated).
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do not...[edit]

  1. add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  2. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  3. accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
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  5. oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. The criteria can be discussed at the relevant talk page.
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December 8[edit]

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2021 Sokoto bus attack[edit]

Article: Nigerian bandit conflict (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Gunmen burn down a bus in Sokoto, Nigeria, killing 30 passengers inside. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​Gunmen torch a bus in Sokoto, Nigeria, killing 30 passengers including children.
Alternative blurb II: ​A bus is burned down by bandits in Sokoto, Nigeria, killing 30 passengers.
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: After an update, this could be blurb-worthy. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 19:04, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose Literally zero updates to the target article. What I am assessing the quality of if Wikipedia has no information on the topic? Where are we directing readers to learn more about the topic? Let me know when I have something to assess.--Jayron32 19:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Greg Tate[edit]

Article: Greg Tate (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News ; NPR ; ARTnews
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Greg Tates’s Recent Death status is confirmed by reliable sources. But the exact day has not been confirmed yet according to the updaters listed above. 2600:1004:B0C4:7412:B173:C9AA:6318:1713 (talk) 19:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Article is short but sufficient and well referenced, death appears to have been first reported December 7; the report date is usually our secondary method of chronologizing deaths if it was not reported immediately. --Jayron32 19:12, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD/Blurb: Bipin Rawat[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Bipin Rawat (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Indian Chief of Defence Staff General Bipin Rawat dead in a helicopter crash (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​Indian Chief of Defence Staff General Bipin Rawat among 13 dead in a helicopter crash
Alternative blurb II: ​Indian Chief of Defence Staff General Bipin Rawat along with 12 others dead in a helicopter crash
Alternative blurb III: Chief of the Defence Staff of India Bipin Rawat and 12 others die in a helicopter crash.
News source(s): [1][2]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Good sourcing in the article. RIP General. Venkat TL (talk) 12:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose for now. Several sections lack cites. That needs fixing before this can be posted. --Jayron32 13:27, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Support. Article is in good shape now. Agnostic on RD or Blurb, but either way it's good enough for the main page. --Jayron32 13:48, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Thank you @Jayron32, @GreatCaesarsGhost. Total 13 people died. Should this number 13 be included in the blurb? His Wife and staff were among the dead. NDTV headline says, "General Bipin Rawat, Wife Among 13 Killed In Chopper Crash" Venkat TL (talk) 13:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Wait handful of CN tags will need to be resolved first. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:33, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per above. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 14:38, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Blurb while military chopper crashes are unfortunately common, the death of the highest ranking officer is not. Rawat has also played significant roles during his tenure, which makes it all the more notable. 180.151.20.32 (talk) 14:53, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Blurb The death of 13 people in a single accident alone is enough for a blurb, plus the death of the CJCS. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:26, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Blurb 13 deaths including the Chief of Defence Staff -- the highest-ranking officer of the Indian Armed Forces. The articles look to be in good shape. – SD0001 (talk) 16:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment proposing blurb – Indian Chief of Defence Staff General Bipin Rawat, is killed along with 12 others in a helicopter crash in the state of Tamil Nadu. 2405:201:4013:8162:99FC:DC7C:6496:6DBD (talk) 16:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I have added a blurb box with pic and 2 alternate blurbs proposed till now. Venkat TL (talk) 16:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I've added another alternate blurb, though this one targets Rawat's article rather than the crash.--Sunshineisles2 (talk) 17:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Blurb - death of 13 people in this accident is enough for a blurb. BabbaQ (talk) 17:40, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Blurb Important general. Plus, article is well sourced. Pyramids09 (talk) 18:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Alt3 with both bolded. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Alt3. Put the photo in for protection but also figured the Scholz photo could remain a bit. 331dot (talk) 18:54, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    • I was thinking of swapping in Bipin Rawat's pic when it's daytime in India. --PFHLai (talk) 18:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
      • Makes sense to me. 331dot (talk) 19:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) New Chancellor of Germany[edit]

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Article: Olaf Scholz (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Olaf Scholz is elected Chancellor of Germany at the head of a coalition government of his Social Democrats, the Greens and the Free Democrats. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Olaf Scholz replaces Angela Merkel as the Chancellor of Germany.
News source(s): Bennhold, Katrin (2021-12-08). "Germany Live Updates: Parliament Approves Scholz as Chancellor, Ending Merkel Era". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2021-12-08.,
AP, BBC, Guardian, dpa, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Change of the chief executive of a major country, WP:ITNR Sandstein 10:14, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Technically, we already posted the election results, but this may be additionally notable because it means Germany will get a new chancellor after Angela Merkel's 16 years in office. --Tone 10:39, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Germany has a parliamentary system and the result of the chancellor election was open until this day. "except when that change was already posted as part of a general election" does not apply here. LenaAvrelia (talk) 10:41, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per LenaAvrelia. In line with other such events (see Austria, which had three chancellors in three months). Article looks to be in a good shape. Regards SoWhy 11:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Can we please use this photo instead though? 😅 Regards SoWhy 11:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Since a coalition had to be formed, it was not a guarantee he was going to be Chancellor after the general election, so I think this qualifies for posting. 331dot (talk) 11:17, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose article is BLP and contains many unreferenced claims. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 11:58, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - as 331dot says, the general election result did not guarantee Scholz would become chancellor - a "Jamaica coalition" of CDU/CSU, Greens and FDP would also have had a solid majority, but Greens and FDP decided to support Scholz (SPD) instead of Laschet (CDU). --141.100.201.16 (talk) 12:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose due to CNs. I concur with this being tagged as ITNR. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:14, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Withdrawn. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:43, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose about 10 CN tags and an entire section orange tagged as needing more citations. That needs to be fixed if this is to be posted. --Jayron32 12:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Support Article is in good shape now. --Jayron32 14:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I would support if the citation needed tags get fixed. Heythereimaguy (talk) 13:05, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Seeing how there are no more citation needed tags, I change my opinion to a big support. Heythereimaguy (talk) 15:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment – In French, German, Swedish and Norwegian (Bokmål) versions of ITN. – Sca (talk) 13:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    How does that fact cause citations to appear in the article? --Jayron32 13:28, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Indeed, that is completely irrelevant as to whether this article should be posted here.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:27, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Schönen Tag noch ihr Kollegen, und alles gute zur Weinachtszeit.Sca (talk) 14:40, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • @Heythereimaguy, GreatCaesarsGhost, and Jayron32: I've added citations for all the {{cn}} tags and removed some uncited material. In my view, the article is now reasonably well sourced for a BLP. Sandstein 14:13, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks to be ready now that CN tags have been fixed.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:30, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I tend to think we should mention Merkel in here somewhere b/c her leadership was long & notable. Anyone have thoughts on this? Btw, I support a blurb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TenorTwelve (talkcontribs) 15:11, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    With all due respect to Merkel, she didn't resign or was defeated, she just didn't run again and now left office as people do who have served. Plus, the blurb is already pretty long and adding Merkel would make it too long imho. Regards SoWhy 15:28, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Decent enough article, a change of government is already currently on ITN. Llewee (talk) 16:14, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - proposed altblurb, simpler prose and more worth mentioning Angela Merkel I think. - Indefensible (talk) 16:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • That Merkel leaves isn't the news; everybody knew that a year ago. The news is that a new coalition now leads Germany. Sandstein 17:23, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Sandstein, Yes but it probably is the most significant thing about this to a typical English-speaking reader. Llewee (talk) 17:38, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • That Merkel officially ceases to be chancellor is in the news. However much it is foreseen. It's like saying that neither is the re-election of certain politicians like Putin or Ortega. And yes, this should be included in the blurb. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:48, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted: A coalition government led by Chancellor Olaf Scholz (pictured) is formed in Germany. --PFHLai (talk) 18:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Since we're freelancing on the blurb now, I've added newly-elected before the word Chancellor, as all prior proposed blurbs and most of this discussion focused on his winning said election, as do many news sources. --Jayron32 18:54, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

December 7[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime


(Posted) Burundi prison fire[edit]

Article: Gitega prison fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​At least 38 inmates die and over 60 are injured after a fire breaks out in an overcrowded prison in Gitega, Burundi (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​A prison fire kills at least 38 inmates and injures over 69 others in Gitega, Burundi.
News source(s): BBC, France24, DW, Guardian, Reuters, AlJazeera
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Fairly large death toll, potential human rights abuses involved User:Scaramouche33 (talk) 15:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Okay, seeing how there seems to be more sources, I am changing my vote to weak support. Heythereimaguy (talk) 15:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support in principle. Oppose in condition.--Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:13, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I tried expanding the article a little bit. We could also add a map and a table.Scaramouche33 (talk) 18:47, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support article is start-class at 349 words and well-sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 18:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is short, but sufficient, level of coverage by reputable news sources demonstrate significance. -Jayron32 19:08, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The description of the event totals 168 words, or half a stub. The rest is BG & reax. Too thin for MP promotion. – Sca (talk) 19:13, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support substantial death toll. CaffeinAddict (talk) 04:29, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I think I added everything I could find in English language sources. There could be more info in French sources but I don't speak the language.Scaramouche33 (talk) 06:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Support Passable, but barely over a stub. Gotitbro (talk) 10:33, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support because it's important enough & the article just about good enough. Jim Michael (talk) 15:17, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support barely qualifies but include for encyclopedic coverage; proposed shorter altblurb. - Indefensible (talk) 17:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 18:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posting. --Tone 18:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

December 6[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

  • In Madagascar, twenty people, including two French nationals, are charged with crimes including criminal conspiracy, criminal association, rebellion against the president and possession of illegal weapons, for allegedly plotting to kill president Andry Rajoelina. (Reuters)

Politics and elections

Sports


(Posted) RD: Ebrahim Ismail Ebrahim[edit]

Article: Ebrahim Ismail Ebrahim (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South African anti-apartheid activist. Article has shaped into a nice C-class biography. Meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. I can do with some assistance on the images. But, this is good to go. Ktin (talk) 03:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Per nom. C-class fully sourced article. Good enough for RD.--Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 03:42, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 07:46, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Well written comprehensive article. Off topic: there are now two South African activitists on the candidate page. What are the odds. KittenKlub (talk) 08:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. Great work on the new article. TJMSmith (talk) 15:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Lindiwe Mabuza[edit]

Article: Lindiwe Mabuza (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Citizen
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South African politician, diplomat, poet, academic, journalist, and cultural activist. TJMSmith (talk) 12:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Comprehensive article, well written and referenced. KittenKlub (talk) 13:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Fully sourced and good enough for RD.--Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 03:26, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 07:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Marjorie Tallchief[edit]

Article: Marjorie Tallchief (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Oklahoman
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American ballerina and the first Native American to be named "première danseuse étoile" in the Paris Opera Ballet. Death published on December 6. TJMSmith (talk) 12:44, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support I added a couple of references, seems in good shape now. Innisfree987 (talk) 01:11, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 08:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 18:39, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Sarco suicide device passes legal review for use in Switzerland[edit]

Consensus will not develop to post. Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:43, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Sarco device (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Sarco suicide device passes legal review for use in Switzerland (Post)
News source(s): SWI
Credits:

Article updated
 Count Iblis (talk) 01:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose, per the sourced article "Some 1,300 people died by assisted suicide in Switzerland in 2020 using the services of the country’s two largest assisted suicide organisations, Exit (no connection to Exit International) and Dignitas." This is not the first such means of assisted suicide in Switzerland; it may have been more newsworthy if this made Switzerland the first country to approve of assisted suicide. --Masem (t) 01:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support This has made the news, although could be more suitable for DYK instead. 99.247.176.90 (talk) 02:29, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- this is interesting, but I fail to see how this is worthy of ITN at all. Switzerland already has legal euthanasia. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 04:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose both on quality (Nitschke plans to release the open source plans for the Sarco by 2019.) and importance. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 04:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Minor story. The blurb is misleading, as it implies official approval for the device; in reality, as quoted in the cited Swissinfo article, the inventor merely told a journalist that he asked unnamed lawyers about the legality of the device and that he is "very pleased with the result", whatever that means. Sandstein 11:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Aside from what has been stated, I would wonder if we should post information about suicide devices on the Main Page, even if legal in the country involved. Assisted suicide isn't legal in many places. 331dot (talk) 13:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) New Chancellor of Austria[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Karl Nehammer (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Karl Nehammer (pictured) becomes the new Chancellor of Austria following the resignation of Alexander Schallenberg. (Post)
News source(s): (ABC News), Reuters, DW
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Article looks pretty good. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 23:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • The blurb should include "following the resignation of Alexander Schallenberg" and some more context on the replacement would be helpful in the article, it is a bit short at the moment on that part. --Tone 23:08, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks adequate. One minor change made. – Sca (talk) 23:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per Sca. Quality looks acceptable Canadianerk (talk) 02:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - seems to meet requirements, although the chancellor article needs ref improvement. - Indefensible (talk) 04:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:46, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. TJMSmith (talk) 17:17, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Medina Spirit[edit]

Article: Medina Spirit (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Athletic, The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Controversial 2021 Kentucky Derby winner. The article looks fully referenced throughout. rawmustard (talk) 20:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support I was just about to nominate this. Article looks to be in good shape. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 20:22, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support the article is thorough and sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 22:19, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 06:38, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Marvin Morgan[edit]

Article: Marvin Morgan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky Sports
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former footballer. Should be ready. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 20:00, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment: Close but needs more citations. SpencerT•C 05:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • @Spencer I added a few more citations to the article, would it be safe to say it's ready now? ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 12:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support- citations where expected. Decently sized article. TJMSmith (talk) 17:33, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Fred Hiatt[edit]

Article: Fred Hiatt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WaPo
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Needs some sourcing, but not far from ready Should be ready – Muboshgu (talk) 19:11, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Appropriate depth of coverage, referenced. Marking ready. SpencerT•C 05:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. TJMSmith (talk) 17:12, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Aung San Suu Kyi sentenced to four years in prison[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Aung San Suu Kyi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Former State Counsellor of Myanmar Aung San Suu Kyi is sentenced to four years in prison on charges of inciting dissent and breaking COVID-19 rules under a natural disasters law. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​Former State Counsellor of Myanmar Aung San Suu Kyi is sentenced to four years in prison on charges of inciting dissent, the sentence being cut to two years in a partial pardon.
Alternative blurb II: ​Former State Counsellor of Myanmar Aung San Suu Kyi is sentenced to prison on charges of inciting dissent.
News source(s): BBC, CNN, AP, Guardian, Reuters, AlJazeera
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This is a notable ruling against a famous political figure and a Nobel Peace Prize laureate. --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Question Should we wait? There are more charges against her and it can add up to life in prison. Scaramouche33 (talk) 08:49, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Significance is somewhat diminished as we already posted the coup in February, and the section on this period needs a rewrite as it is currently proseline with lots of extraneous detail. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:06, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support – Long-term political cause célèbre comes to a head. Widely and prominently covered, with much criticism of Myanmar military regime. Favor Alt1. – Sca (talk) 13:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support The coup being posted shouldn't diminish someone going to prison [again] when they received international coverage for efforts to come out of it. Gotitbro (talk) 15:00, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
Can do with a better blurb though, too lengthy and incoherent for the average reader. Gotitbro (talk) 20:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Support. She received a partial pardon and will serve two years (Al Jazeera and all sources above). -SusanLesch (talk) 18:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support because it's easily important enough. If she's later convicted of anything else, the blurb can be adjusted accordingly. Jim Michael (talk) 20:05, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support, It is an important news and will start other events as well. Alex-h (talk) 21:11, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
    Blurbed in French, German versions of ITN. – Sca (talk) 23:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Is anyone actually reviewing the article? GreatCaesarsGhost 00:00, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
    • I just glanced through and there's a fair number of unsourced statements near the bottom half of the article. I'd also argue there's far too much excessive detail on her history as related to any litigation or complaints, but that's not an ITN item as long as it appears neutrally written. --Masem (t) 01:29, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per Alex-h, Gotitbro, and Jim Michael. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 01:38, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: The Aung San Suu Kyi article has about 20 {cn} tags, and the 2021 arrest and trial section consists of mostly proseline. Please fix. --PFHLai (talk) 05:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Too much tags. Hanamanteo (talk) 08:15, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose There are too many tags for this to be ready on time. It is also a borderline case for me in terms of significance of news given that we already posted the coup in February. So lets wait for more charges against her so that there is more time for the article tags to be fixed. Tradediatalk 12:34, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Asleep at the switch. – Sca (talk) 13:44, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose Unfortunately, the article has far too many CN tags to be posted on the main page. If someone wanted this posted on the main page, they would work on fixing that problem. --Jayron32 19:12, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Citation issue has been fixed. It's good for the main page now. --Jayron32 11:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Proseline issues remain. There's a graph about her being moved, one about the trial beginning, and another about a delay in the trial when she got sick. Collectively, this reads very poorly. Our goal here is to encourage quality updates by featuring them; this is not quality. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:09, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Miles (musician)[edit]

Article: John Miles (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: Needs some work but one of the most underrated musicians of all time. Music is one of the great 70s anthems. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 19:46, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment I have now upgraded and improved the article. Think there is more to be added with paper refs as stuff like Melody Maker etc aren't digitalised.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 14:18, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article looks good to me. RIP. I always loved the song, but didn't know it was called Music or who John Miles was... Tradediatalk 21:41, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. TJMSmith (talk) 17:36, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

December 5[edit]

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RD: M. Sarada Menon[edit]

Article: M. Sarada Menon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Federal
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Indian psychiatrist, social worker and the founder of Schizophrenia Research FoundationTJMSmith (talk) 12:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment - The ref number 13, referecing the fact that she was "a recipient of the Lifetime Achievement Award of Madras Neuro Trust" is dead. It seems the only issue in the article.--Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 03:35, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Nagaland killings[edit]

Proposed image
Article: 2021 Oting Nagaland Massacre (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Fourteen civillians are killed by Indian Army forces in failed ambush and subsequent violence in Nagaland, India. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Violent confrontations with Indian Army forces result in the death of at least fourteen civilians and one soldier in Nagaland.
News source(s): BBC, The Hindu
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Need move to 2021 Nagaland killings, see talkpage. Redirect deletion requested. Propose alt blurb if any. Caption: Candlelight vigil organised in KohimaNizil (talk) 07:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support - an escalation in the ongoing insurgency with a significant no. of deaths. MasterOfMetaverse (talk) 13:44, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support pending cleanup noted by nom. There are a few minor issues with delineating the initial attack from subsequent killings. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:12, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support number of civilians death ae high.-Ameen Akbar (talk) 16:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support article is sufficiently comprehensive and well referenced, topic has been covered appropriately by reliable news sources, demonstrating significance. --Jayron32 19:14, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Added altblurb. --PFHLai (talk) 01:44, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 03:00, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Jacques Tits[edit]

Article: Jacques Tits (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Société mathématique de France
Credits:

Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: French mathematician, laureate of the Abel Prize, dies at age 91. Article needs some work. Davey2116 (talk) 22:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Please add more refs, particularly to the "Life and career" and "Contributions" sections. --PFHLai (talk) 01:33, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Christine Haidegger‎[edit]

Article: Christine Haidegger‎ (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Der Standard
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Austrian writer, poet. Was influential in the Salzburg literary scene. Grimes2 (talk) 13:38, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Well sourced little article. KittenKlub (talk) 14:34, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. That was a nice and quick 5x expansion. Good luck at DYK. --PFHLai (talk) 18:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Dole[edit]

Article: Bob Dole (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, BBC, Guardian, NPR, PBS, NBC, Twitter
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Former US Senator and presidential candidate. Article needs some work but is close to ready. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 16:51, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Think it could work as a blurb, Bob Dole was a massive figure in American politics for over two decades. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 17:18, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment – Likely blurb. Very widely covered, much subject info. – Sca (talk) 17:38, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb It wasn't his run for president that made him notable, it was his role in the Senate, and that section of the article is far far too short to show that (that's orange tagged right now). The article is ready for RD outside that orange tag. --Masem (t) 17:42, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
    Household name for decades. Suggest we wait at least a while for article development. – Sca (talk) 17:51, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
    In the US, absolutely, but not so much worldwide politics. Not a strong reason to post as a blurb (particularly with the article's lack of his political record outside of Presidental runs). --Masem (t) 18:07, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
    "2. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive." I don't know if this applies here but to me it kind of does. KingOfAllThings (thou shalt chatter!) 00:26, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
    My original oppose is not related to just being the US, but pointing out that the above "household name" is relying on being a US centric aspect. --Masem (t) 00:33, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Tentative support RD, Oppose blurb Article does have an expansion tag so I would support once that has been sorted. As for the blurb, to be blunt (as Futurama once put it) he was a "Presidential loser". We don't tend to do blurbs for people who lost their one and only major election for head of state. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:57, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support RD pending removal of citation needed tags and accompanying orange banner in awards section. Tag on Senate section is no reason to hold back though. Bob Dole... Bob Dole... bob... dole... - Floydian τ ¢ 18:20, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb per Masem. He's as important as you say he is in the United States, but that doesn't mean it's important beyond its borders. And that's not the case. He doesn't pass the Thatcher/Mandela filter and that he was a failed candidate for the presidency of that country and a senator for many years IMO is no reason for him to be blurb-worthy. One section is orange-tagged. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:34, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb. Worldwide, Dole is probably mostly known for being lampooned in The Simpsons. Never served in a cabinet, and I can't imagine us considering posting a blurb for a backbencher from another country. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ 18:43, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb If we go by precedent, the 2008 runner-up with a long Congressional history was also RD only [3]. No disrespect to the deceased, but even in America's closest ally, he's mainly known as the guy speaking in the third person who got abducted by Kang and Kodos. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:57, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Photo Plain RD If anybody had a name that still speaks for itself, it's Bob Dole....Bob Dole! InedibleHulk (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
    • That's a poor reason to include an image. We've only done that when the blurbs have gotten stale, but with the volcano, we clearly have a notable image. --Masem (t) 19:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
      • Oh, right. Hadn't thought about what we'd be losing. A striking visage, but clearly no volcano. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:12, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb, oppose photo for RD Not a head of state, not a head of government, not sufficiently notable. Chrisclear (talk) 19:07, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support RD notable person. wizzito | say hello! 22:20, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support blurb, futile as this may be. Someone has to stand up for the notability of the former Majority Leader of the United States Senate, who effectively shares leadership of the federal legislative branch of the country, which is technically coequal with the executive and judicial branches. I would suggest that someone who holds this position and becomes the leading contender for the U.S. presidency is blurb-worthy. BD2412 T 22:47, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Does the same rationale apply to someone who holds/held the position of leadership of the federal legislative branch of another country, and becomes the leading contender for the head of government of that country? Or does it only apply to US Presidential candidates? Chrisclear (talk) 23:30, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
      • I think it would depend in part on the structure of the government, and the means by which the position is contended. In parliamentary systems, the titular leader of the legislature often is the head of government. In countries where the legislature is clearly a subservient entity under the control of the executive, it wouldn't matter, and in countries where the head of government is not democratically selected, the meaning of being a "leading contender" for that position is also too shrouded in mystery to matter. I think there are very few countries that actually have three legally coequal branches of government, and a system wherein the leader of one branch can become a leading contender to be democratically elected to head another. BD2412 T 23:37, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support RD now that all of the missing citations have been added, as far as I could see. Oppose blurb per above: someone in Bob Dole's position would never get a blurb in any other country. We wouldn't blurb William Hague if he died today, why would we blurb Bob Dole? NorthernFalcon (talk) 23:51, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 02:07, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Post-posting oppose His senate section is extremely short for a man who has been described the “Lion of the Senate”. I feel that some who approved this were discussing his nobility rather than the state of the article. I’d recommend pulling this until the section (rather important one) is expanded. Once the section is thoroughly expanded then I’ll support a possible blurb. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:38, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
    • I see no sense in asserting that the article is incomplete because it doesn't live up to a purported nickname that doesn't even appear in the article. Lion of the Senate points to someone else. If the section can be expanded, by all means do so, but there is no concrete basis here for asserting that it is lacking. BD2412 T 05:53, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • @BD2412: However all obits cite his long senate career that lasted for decades. If he was a one term senator then sure a short senate section makes sense, but Dole was a Senate leader and longtime GOP Senator. It’s like having an influential actor with a short career section. His senate career section lacks information of his long tenure in the senate. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:49, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
    • You are conflating longevity with productivity, without justification, and your conclusions are therefore incorrect. His senate career section does specify the length of time for which he served in the senate. Show me a source that says that he was known for getting signature legislation passed or the like, and you will have a case for saying there is something missing. BD2412 T 16:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Post-posting Support - Definitely for RD. Article looks decent enough for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 12:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Cundall[edit]

Article: Peter Cundall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Australian gardening personality Stephen 08:47, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Comprehensive article which is well written and referenced.KittenKlub (talk) 09:40, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Not that it matters, but this is the first time I've heard a nominee described as a "gardening personality." Cheers. – Sca (talk) 13:42, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Cundall can also be described as a bloody commie gardener, but that violates NPOV.KittenKlub (talk) 14:15, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
In the UK there's been Percy Thrower, Alan Titchmarsh, Monty Don... c'mon, there must be some US gardening personalities. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:56, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 16:54, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

December 4[edit]

Arts and culture

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Law and crime

Politics and elections


RD: Stonewall Jackson[edit]

Article: Stonewall Jackson (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox News, New York Times
Credits:

Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: Grand Ole Opry inductee, Waterloo country crossover hit and 43 other charting songs. CoatCheck (talk) 01:48, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

  • The Discography section is unsourced. The prose has a few {cn} tags, too. Please add more refs. --PFHLai (talk) 03:13, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Gambian presidential election[edit]

Proposed image
Article: 2021 Gambian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Adama Barrow (pictured) is re-elected President of the Gambia. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Al Jazeera, DW
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: The article is sourced and updated. --Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 05:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support The article seems ready, although it doesn’t have an "Aftermath" or "Reactions" section. I would change the proposed photo to the one on his wikibio, which looks more up to date. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 01:13, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Vinod Dua[edit]

Article: Vinod Dua (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NDTV
Credits:

Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: Indian journalist. Orange tagged. Will require some work. Ktin (talk) 19:11, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose: The whole career is covered under early life. Unnecessary controversy section (WP:CSECTION), with undue expanded statements; needs to be heavily condensed and incorporated into a career section. Gotitbro (talk) 13:18, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Claude Humphrey[edit]

Article: Claude Humphrey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: National Football League hall of famer. Article could use a bit of work. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 17:21, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Too many footnote-free paragraphs. Please add more refs. --PFHLai (talk) 01:28, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Eileen Ash[edit]

Article: Eileen Ash (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, ECB
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: World's oldest Test cricketer Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 14:05, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support was coming by to nominate this myself. Article looks good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:44, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - the article is sourced and updated. What a long life! TJMSmith (talk) 18:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 20:39, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Semeru eruption[edit]

Article: 2021 Semeru eruption (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The Semeru volcano erupts on the island of Java, killing at least 13 and injuring dozens. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Mount Semeru in Indonesia erupts, killing 14 people and injuring hundreds of others.
News source(s): Reuters, AP, AlJazeera, BBC, DW, LAT
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Still being updated, although most of the sources are not in English. Dora the Axe-plorer (Nopen't) 05:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Plenty of sources in English, including NYT, not listed above due to paywall. - Sca (talk) 17:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • No worries. The word "hundreds" (plural) did not make it to MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 16:12, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Basically disagree. Current blurb says "injuring more than a hundred people." Most RS articles linked above don't support such a large number. Also, RS's put toll at 13-14, which one must acknowledge isn't really a huge number as natural disasters go. – Sca (talk) 17:19, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
PS: FWIW, this event isn't currently listed in the French, Dutch, German, Swedish or Russian versions of ITN. – Sca (talk) 17:22, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
FWIW, it's Sunday afternoon in Europe.--65.94.214.139 (talk) 19:50, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the suggestion, Jeromi Mikhael. Things look too tiny once the image is squished onto the ITN template. It would be better to put it in the article than on MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 16:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
The current blurb pic. of dormant Mt. Semeru on a blue-sky day, though fairly recent, doesn't do much to illustrate this news event, IMO. – Sca (talk) 17:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
If you have a better pic, please proposed it here at ITN/C. If appropriate, a later screenshot from the same YouTube videoclip showing the damages may be useful. --PFHLai (talk) 20:33, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
PFHLai, how about this? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:54, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Ratusan rumah tertimbun abu vulkanik erupsi gunung Semeru (2, cropped).jpg
Thanks, Jeromi Mikhael. That is pretty much what I had in mind. I have prepared a cropped and brightened version (shown on the right), hoping that viewers can see the damages caused by the eruption. Does this work? Need a caption? --PFHLai (talk) 11:38, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
@PFHLai: Thanks for the edit m8, I think you just need to add (damage pictured) or something like that to the blurb. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
The pic is now posted. --PFHLai (talk) 18:48, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment – Most RS reports put the number of injured at 56 (Reuters, BBC, AlJazeera, DW) or 57 (AP, LAT), substantially less than the "more than 100" in the current blurb. Suggest we replace "more than 100" with "more than 50," which would be accurate based on what's been reported so far.
    Sca (talk) 19:43, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Please revise and update the article with reliable sources and afterwards let us know here at ITN. The blurb should match the article. --PFHLai (talk) 20:33, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • And remember, a lot of people don't go to the hospital when they're hurt. I don't know how many. But AP (copied in LAT) says 57 "hospitalized". InedibleHulk (talk) 21:15, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • The blurb on MainPage is now updated to "... killing fifteen people and injuring dozens others." --PFHLai (talk) 11:30, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

December 3[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports


2021 Pakistan Sialkot lynching[edit]

Article: Lynching of Priyantha Kumara (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Islamist mob lynch Sri Lankan worker for alleged blasphemy. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​A mob in Pakistan lynches a foreign national for alleged blasphemy.
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Highlights the growing Islamic radicalisation of Pakistan 27.7.182.218 (talk) 07:52, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Not sure at this stage whether this deserves listing, but I am sure the Nominator's comment above are inflammatory and unhelpful. I would prefer to see wording more like "An example of what some see as incidents of violence over alleged blasphemy in Pakistan." HiLo48 (talk) 08:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Article is unusually well-referenced and composed. The very large number of people arrested for this, and the quick reactions from the international community, indicate that this is not a garden variety criminal proceeding. That this is directly related to Islamism and blasphemy is well-supported in sources. Altblurb added to conform to our general format.130.233.213.55 (talk) 08:38, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Has this already been determined by a court of law to be a murder or lynching? 331dot (talk) 09:00, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
The Pakistani PM calls it plainly "the Sialkot lynching". I'm unsure if Pakistan has a statutory definition of lynching (like the US), but it's the most concise and descriptive term available. Alternative could be "kills" but sources on all sides have gone beyond that.130.233.213.55 (talk) 09:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
The PM is entitled to his opinion, but that is not a judgment by a court. (even just as a murder). 331dot (talk) 11:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support Altblurb. Per 130.233.213.55, this is significant. Canadianerk (talk) 10:59, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Note: Event occurred on December 3. The oldest current blurb is dated December 4. Story is stale. --Jayron32 13:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    @Jayron32 This is a major news. Was widely published in all countries. Please consider making an exception to post this. Venkat TL (talk) 13:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    We post stories chronologically. There's no where to put this story in the ITN box. --Jayron32 13:07, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    Understood. But WP:IAR should apply here. There is no date mentioned in the box anyway. So adding it will not break anything. Could be added on top or bottom. Venkat TL (talk) 13:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    We simply don't do that. There could be arguments if this story had taken a while to propagate to major sources, but the Guardian piece is dated Dec 3, the day it happened. This simply missed the ITN window. --Masem (t) 13:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) You've asserted that IAR should apply. You've provided no particular evidence in support that it should. There are many widely published news stories. You've made no case that this one story is important enough to post even though you waited 5 extra days to nominate it. --Jayron32 13:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose – A mob riot that lacks general significance or wider impact. – Sca (talk) 13:03, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Stale Significance is debatable, but not even in the ballpark of significance that would justify invoking IAR. Would also oppose as tabloid fodder; religious violence is somewhat common in the subcontinent. Inflating one story or another is inflammatory. GreatCaesarsGhost 13:31, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Support struck per stale, but just barely. An outside possibility might be to shorten either the Austrian or Nagaland blurbs to free up one line at ITN for this item, but I can't recall such happening before.130.233.213.55 (talk) 13:35, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Françoise Delord[edit]

Article: Françoise Delord (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Point
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: French zookeeper and owner. Concise but well-sourced article. Hopefully it can be expanded a little more. TJMSmith (talk) 18:56, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support - Start-class and fully sourced.--Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 21:49, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
  • DYK check says there are only 1414 characters (235 words) of readable prose. Any more to add? This is a brand-new wikiarticle. Might as well expand it to 1500+ characters and qualify for a DYK nomination, too. --PFHLai (talk) 00:01, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Needs 1 more fully fleshed out paragraph to meet ITN 3 paragraph minimum. SpencerT•C 02:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
I added a few details with citations. I'm somewhat limited due to most sources being in French. TJMSmith (talk) 23:51, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. I’ve added some details to indicate the significance of her zoo. Seems to me it’s long enough now but just one editor’s opinion! Innisfree987 (talk) 20:43, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • With 2217 characters (379 words) of readable prose, this wikibio is long enough to not be considered a stub. There seems to be enough footnotes where they are expected. IMO, this wikibio is READY for RD. --PFHLai (talk) 22:45, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 05:48, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Charlotte Mailliard Shultz[edit]

Article: Charlotte Mailliard Shultz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): San Francisco Chronical
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: American heiress, socialite, and philanthropist. TJMSmith (talk) 01:07, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Antony Sher[edit]

Article: Antony Sher (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5] [6] [7]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British actor and two time Laurence Olivier Award winner Margueryllis 16:50, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment needs lots more sourcing. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:15, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Joseph is being kind. Every item on Stage performances, Filmography and Awards and nominations has to be sourced (and current count is zero...) KittenKlub (talk) 17:37, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Laos-China Railway[edit]

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Article: Boten-Vientiane railway (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The Vientiane-Boten rail link opens as Laos' first high-speed railway for passengers and freight services. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​The 1035 km Laos-China railway, Laos' first high-speed railway, opens to passengers and freight services.
News source(s): Vientiane Times, Vientiane Times, Global Times, CGTN, teleSUR, Reuters, Reuters, France 24, China Daily,
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: This is the opening of the first high-speed railway in Laos. The railway included 167 tunnels and 301 bridges, which consisted over 900 km of its 1035 km length. Previously, the country only had 4 km of railway. Viva Nicolás (talk) 11:53, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose Very interesting article and development. Article is in good shape, however this is not high speed. "suitable for 160 km/h passenger" High-speed rail is defined as >= 250 km/h for new lines and >= 200 km/h for upgraded lines. KittenKlub (talk) 12:41, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Am I missing how this is ITNR? 331dot (talk) 13:05, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
    Ditto. – Sca (talk) 13:22, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
    Removed. 331dot (talk) 15:31, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Opposr per KittenKlub Even if it was high speed, I don't think we would nominate it unless it was the first on the continent or something.Scaramouche33 (talk) 13:24, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 16:34, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support This is a significant link in China's Belt and Road Initiative. See SCMP for some analysis of its strategic significance. The current top blurb is days old and is a similar matter of South Asian development or lack of same. China is getting things done while India isn't. Either way, they are in the news. Andrew🐉(talk) 23:53, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This boils down to "railway opens". This isn't even technically a high speed railway. Countries spending money in other countries as diplomacy or part of a geopolitical struggle is common. 331dot (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - Laos' first high speed rail doesn't seem to be the key point of the news overall (especially when it should be considered higher-speed rail instead according to definition). This could be significant but the blurb needs to shift the focus. Sun8908Talk 18:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose The broader impact of this beyond development aid/loan is not immediately discernible from the blurbs or the article. Gotitbro (talk) 07:01, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

December 2[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

  • A group of four former Serbian state security officers, including Radomir Marković, are found guilty of the murder of Slavko Ćuruvija. Two have been sentenced to 20 years in prison, while Marković and the remaining officer will serve a 30-year sentence. (Balkan Insight)

Politics and elections

Sports


RD: Darlene Hard[edit]

Article: Darlene Hard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American tennis player, Hall of Famer, and 3-time major tennis champion. Needs a few citations. TJMSmith (talk) 19:01, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment: IMHO, a 300-word start-class article cannot provide good enough coverage for a Hall-of-Fame career with 16 Grand Slam titles and quite a few medals and trophies won while representing her country in international tournaments. Quite some elaboration and expansion are sorely needed. BTW, the tables need refs. --PFHLai (talk) 02:08, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Poedjono Pranyoto[edit]

Article: Poedjono Pranyoto (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Suara.com
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former governor and parliament deputy speaker. Article created approx. 9 hours after his death. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Support Looks good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 12:28, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support The article is in good shape and well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 17:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment looks good enough for RD to me, marked as ready. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:50, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) MLB lockout begins[edit]

A consensus to post will not develop. DYK is a good suggestion since the article is new. --Tone 09:52, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Nominator's comments: The first lockout in MLB in over a quarter-century, will likely cause significant disruptions in the baseball offseason, and has large implications for the economics of the sport. — GhostRiver 05:43, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Article could use some additional information about what the practical impact of a lockout is ("labor stoppage" is mentioned but not much additional detail). I know some stuff could be CRYSTALBALL but how does this affect the league now, especially since it's the off season? SpencerT•C 07:04, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment The strike 26 years ago isn't called a lockout on WP, and the lockout 31 years ago is called the seventh work stoppage. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:16, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
A strike is when the bosses want the workers to go inside but the workers refuse, a lockout is when the workers want the workers to go inside but the bosses refuse or the bosses want the bosses to go inside but the workers refuse. Though there are more possibilities: The bosses want the bosses to go outside and the workers refuse or the workers want the workers to go outside and the bosses refuse or the bosses want the workers to go outside but they refuse or the workers want the bosses to go outside but they refuse or the workers want the bosses to go inside but they refuse. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 09:15, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Precisely! But is this a strike? WaPo doesn't confirm, WaPo don't deny. In any case, MLB could mean anyone to the average schmuck. A better blurb might explain who's stopping who from working and why. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:24, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
A lockout is when management prevents the workers from working; a strike is when the workers refuse to work. 331dot (talk) 09:38, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose rich men want to get richer and throw their toys out. DYK time. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 09:17, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose In case we reach consensus on its significance, the right time to post would be when it ends. That's what we did with the 2011 NBA lockout, and this is nothing different from it.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:30, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. This is less significant because the season is over. If this goes into next year and prevents the start of the season, that would be more notable. 331dot (talk) 09:36, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict × 2) Oppose. Baseball itself is a sport of little interest to most of the world and some baseball players striking in one country, no matter how "rare" it might be, is not news to most of the world or even the country it's happening in. Even the NYT and WaPo don't consider it newsworthy enough to mention it on the top of their websites, you have to scroll down to find it. On non-US newssites like The Guardian, The Times, Der Spiegel etc. you won't even find it mentioned in their sports sections (they do mention Arsenal's Gabriel repelling home invaders with a baseball bat though which thus would actually be more newsworthy since it's been reported in multiple countries). I agree with TRM that this might well be a good fit for DYK but ITN is already oftentimes too US-centric as it is (plus there is already a baseball-related item in there). Regards SoWhy 09:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

December 1[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Politics and elections


RD: Alvin Lucier[edit]

Article: Alvin Lucier (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Experimental composer and professor of music at Wesleyan University rgm38 (talk) 09:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose - Orange tagged and very unsourced.--Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 19:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Still too many footnote-free paragraphs. Please add more refs. --PFHLai (talk) 01:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) India repeals 2020 farm laws[edit]

Article: 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​Following a year of protests by farmers, India repeals the Indian agriculture acts of 2020. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Hindu, India Today
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: Major policy decision, following one of Independent India's largest protests. Jose Mathew (talk) 03:29, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment From what I'm reading the farmers are still striking until they know for certain that the laws are repealed. Dunno if that affects the timing here. --Masem (t) 04:50, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support - further status and article updates have been made since previous nomination. - Indefensible (talk) 05:08, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support The bill cleared both houses and received assent. It's ready to proceed to mainpage. Canadianerk (talk) 05:20, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support article has been updated for the repeal. This was opposed a few weeks ago on ITN as there were no definitive details, but now there are, it can be posted. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:06, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 10:14, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
    Amakuru, Following a year of protests by farmers, India repeals the Indian agriculture acts of 2020 is probably better. It would quite strange, if not impossible, for India to revoke the Afghanistan/Russian/... agriculture acts of 2020. TrangaBellam (talk) 13:11, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Post-posting comment – Do four yes votes constitute a consensus? – Sca (talk) 20:36, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
There is no opposition to this nomination. 331dot (talk) 20:57, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
FYI, at WP:FPC, it takes five supports (a so-called 'quorum') for promotion to a (potential) TFP. – Sca (talk) 13:35, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Post-posting support to fulfill a "quorum". We don't want to be like AFD where discussion is decided in a week... Howard the Duck (talk) 13:38, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
    I didn't say we should be like any other Wiki entity. It was more an explanation of why I asked the question. – Sca (talk) 13:50, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

WTA suspends Chinese tournaments[edit]

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Article: Peng Shuai (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​The Women's Tennis Association suspends all tournaments in China over concerns for the wellbeing of Peng Shuai (pictured). (Post)
News source(s): BBC, AP, Guardian, Reuters, DW
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Seems like a fairly notable development in this story. Unfortunately the Peng Shuai article is woefully undercited at the moment Dumelow (talk) 20:13, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment – Fairly widely covered, However, the update consists of one sentence added to each target article. In the best of all possible worlds, a separate article on the WTA decision and its background would be advisable. But that seems rather unlikely. – Sca (talk) 23:20, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality grounds per Sca's comments and the fact that I had to add a {{blp sources}} tag because of all the unsourced paragraphs in the Career section. Undecided on significance. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:23, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Question what is the actual impact of this? There's been no WTA tournaments in China or Hong Kong for 2 years because of the pandemic, and none confirmed for either country in the 2022 WTA Tour so far as I can see. So this suspension seems to just be symbolic (unless I'm missing something). Joseph2302 (talk) 00:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Joseph2302 The BBC radio story I was listening to this morning said this would affect 10 tournaments (including 1 in Hong Kong) in 2022, with a total of $100m prize money. There is (or would have been), for example, a tournament with $14m prize money in Shenzhen. [9] Black Kite (talk) 15:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support in principle Looks like acceptably widespread coverage. Pulling out of China is a significant move for the WTA; three of the top tier tournaments (two WTA 1000 tournaments and the WTA Finals) are contracted to be played there. --RaiderAspect (talk) 03:26, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose As Joseph points out, there's no immediate changes in any planned tournaments from this. It would be different if this was a much larger sporting organization, like the Olympics, pulling out of China. --Masem (t) 03:30, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support, per RaiderAspect. The comparison to the Olympics is an unreasonable expectation to place, in my opinion. The world has taken notice of this story, with the article noting that the EU has expressed concern, adding further weight to this story. Canadianerk (talk) 05:27, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - the article is a long way from being ready on quality, so discussion about significance is a bit moot at this point. I am leaning oppose on that ground per Joseph and Masem though, on the grounds that we're not a news ticker and the overall concrete impact of this seems limited.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:33, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Further coverage on Thursday includes Chinese condemnation: [10] [11]. However, the WTA target article still contains only one sentence about this event. Not enough. – Sca (talk) 13:38, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Ah, well the target article in the nomination box is Peng Shuai all right, but the proposed blurb also contains a link to the WTA.
Kinda confusing for an old dog like me. Still oppose nom. – Sca (talk) 15:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
PS: Made a couple anti-POV edits. – Sca (talk) 15:26, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Question How common is it for us to post an event at ITN (in this case the suspension) that is seemingly not notable enough to deserve its own article? (Note: this is a genuine question, and should not be misinterpreted as an Oppose, or at least not yet; indeed I was originally thinking of supporting, until I noticed this aspect of the matter.) Tlhslobus (talk) 17:53, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
    Not very common, although it sometimes happens. – Sca (talk) 19:42, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
    I think the sexual assault allegations are very much notable enough for an event article. Peng Shuai#Sexual assault allegation and disappearance has become long and unwieldy, and the fact that no one hasn't done it yet doesn't mean that we shouldn't split it into its own page and replace the section with a shorter summary. -- King of ♥ 20:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Sexual allegations are made every day. Further, they are just that – allegations – until corroborated in some fashion.
Sca (talk) 13:30, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
That section needs massive trimming. Remember that we're not a newspaper and should not be reporting day to day events at that level of detail, but what's enduring about it. The section's not inappropriate but it is overly detailed for an encyclopedia given that we're talking only allegations and speculation. --Masem (t) 20:18, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
A sports related controversy upto an ITN level blurb would have to be a country wide doping ban or similar. Don't see the significance otherwise. Gotitbro (talk) 07:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose How is this still open after a week? Obviously there is no consensus to post and at this point the story has entirely left the news cycle. Regardless, the target article is still missing several sources and only dedicates a single sentence to the story. BSMRD (talk) 05:34, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Grand Jojo[edit]

Article: Grand Jojo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Soir, Het Nieuwsblad, La Libre Belgique
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Famous in Belgium, unknown elsewhere: the first performer of the Olé, Olé, Olé football chant now used worldwide. Fram (talk) 09:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Yesterday, I've cleaned up the worst, however his page still needs a lot of work including referencing his endless discography. The biography is not ready yet. KittenKlub (talk) 09:59, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Support it's been cleaned up and referenced. KittenKlub (talk) 16:54, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment agree that it needs discography sourcing. Also, it doesn't mention Olé, Olé, Olé (or "Allez, Allez, Allez", as I believe they performed it in French), would be nice to add. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:02, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Support article is ready. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posted --PFHLai (talk) 07:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

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