Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Riot damage in Minneapolis
Riot damage in Minneapolis

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated) in UTC.
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Remember, we use UTC dates.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.
  • Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so.
  • The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page.

Please do not...[edit]

  1. add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  2. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  3. accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  4. comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)
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June 3[edit]

International relations

Law and crime

Ongoing: COVID-19 pandemic[edit]

Article: COVID-19 pandemic (talk, history)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): LA Times, BBC, NY Times, Der Speigel, El País, Le Monde and Pravda
Credits:

Nominator's comments: A cursory review of the above high profile RSs reveals that the COVID-19 has certainly stopped dominating the news cycle. Above COVID-19 at BBC was an article about vegan seafood. Only two of these RSs had COVID-19 in their above-the-fold headlines. While the pandemic is certainly ongoing, receiving press and articles are being updated, the extraordinary circumstance that brought us to create the COVID-19 banner has, by my lights, passed. I suggest we move this to Ongoing, and pull the banner. 130.233.2.170 (talk) 07:10, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose as premature -- it's likely we'll see cases rise, particularly in the developed world. -- Rockstone[Send me a message!] 07:12, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose - many countries are yet to reach the peak. India itself is still showing no signs of an end to this nightmare, after a two-month long lockdown. I know that even India is considering lifting the lockdown, but that is because a lockdown is simply unsustainable for too long. RedBulbBlueBlood9911Talk 08:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose - COVID-19 is still a major unprecedented global pandemic that is hitting countries hard. India had its "highest single-day spike" [1] -- Fuzheado | Talk 08:44, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The reason "Above COVID-19 at BBC was an article about vegan seafood" is the case is that you're looking at the website for BBC Television, not BBC News; at the time of writing the BBC News website has twelve stories above-the-fold, seven of which are about the coronavirus. ‑ Iridescent 08:48, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Iridescent, 7 out top 10 stories on the BBC relate to Covid. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:54, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support COVID-19 will still be prominently featured in the box, in the Ongoing section. This change simply removes the myriad of links to poorer quality articles and frees up space in the box for an additional blurb. Opposes based on COVID-19 still being in the news don't make sense because we're not removing the story from the box. --LaserLegs (talk) 09:19, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose - This is in no way over, it has hardly reach its peak in many parts of the world.BabbaQ (talk) 10:27, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Please note that this is a nomination to add the article to Ongoing. Apologies for the BBC confusion; for some reason I persistently get a redirect to their .com TLD site no matter what I type.130.233.2.170 (talk) 10:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. There's no point in adding this to Ongoing if we're keeping the banner. COVID remains the overwhelmingly dominant news story in almost every country, so the banner should stay. It's not as if we have any other pressing nominations to put in the space instead. Modest Genius talk 10:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2[edit]

Business and economy

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

RD: Héctor Suárez[edit]

Article: Héctor Suárez (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press; NBC News; KABC-TV
Credits:

 Bloom6132 (talk) 03:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Support - added 1 cn tag, but seems acceptable. Good work on the updates. - Indefensible (talk) 04:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • My bad – I just forgot to use the AP source again. No tags remaining now. —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

RD: Carlo Ubbiali[edit]

Article: Carlo Ubbiali (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RoadracingWorld
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Italian motorcycle racer. - Indefensible (talk) 22:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment References are in order and the <1.5 kb of prose that is already there is very good, but it gives so far no information about the subject beyond birth, death, and CV. A few sentences about family or education or life outside of motorsport and I could support.130.233.2.170 (talk) 10:51, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wes Unseld[edit]

Article: Wes Unseld (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MSN
Credits:

Nominator's comments: American athlete. - Indefensible (talk) 22:18, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Arrogate[edit]

Article: Arrogate (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Racing Post
Credits:

Nominator's comments: American racehorse. - Indefensible (talk) 21:56, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

RD: Munir Khan Orakzai[edit]

Article: Munir Khan Orakzai (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dawn
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: A good-length and referenced article that's also updated. Invisible Lad (talk) 15:05, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose - either there are not enough sources or they are incorrectly positioned. References generally come at the end of each sentence/paragraph they support. RedBulbBlueBlood9911Talk 15:16, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose Article needs copy editing. Most sentences begin with the pronoun "he" and the article reads in a somewhat stilted manner. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose a couple of unreferenced sentences, and barely beyond a stub. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 19:56, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

June 1[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

RD: David McAtee[edit]

Article: David McAtee (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, NPR
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: African-American fatally shot by law enforcement dispersing crowd during a George Floyd protest in Louisville, Kentucky. —Bagumba (talk) 08:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose Article is written as an event, not a BLP; there only a single sentence (first under Incident) that contains any information about the subject's life. As such, the suitable route is a non-RD blurb.130.233.2.170 (talk) 10:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Silver Donald Cameron[edit]

Article: Silver Donald Cameron (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Canadian author, journalist, academic. - Indefensible (talk) 03:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

RD: Myroslav Skoryk[edit]

Article: Myroslav Skoryk (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): KP
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Ukrainian composer. Article needs improvement. Hrodvarsson (talk) 20:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

May 31[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

(Posted) RD: Jayanendra Chand Thakuri[edit]

Article: Jayanendra Chand Thakuri (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Himalayan Times Republica
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Nepali actor known for his work in Nepali cinema. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose pretty stubby for me, what's there appears okay but very brief. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 14:11, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    The Rambling Man, I have added more info to the page. The article meets the requirements to be nominated for DYK. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 14:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    Weak support it's still short once you eliminate the lead (which only should summarise the article) and the filmog table. But what's there appears to be satis. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 07:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support short but sufficient JW 1961 Talk 16:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak support: per others, short but what there is looks ok. Some suggestions: (1) It is a pity that nothing is explicitly said about when he was born, although age at death and categorisation do seem to imply a view. (I have seen the talk page discussion.) (2) Given that he apparently became an actor in his 40s, it is a pity that nothing is said about the circumstances. (3) If his first film was in 1982 and his last in 2012, it seems a stretch to say he was "acting for almost four decades". (4) If Jeevan Rekha is a notable work of Nepali cinema, as a talk page commenter seems to suggest, there is (I think) no shame in having a red link to it, particularly if that encouraged someone to create that article. (Although CAPTAIN MEDUSA needs no hinting on content creation, so feel free to ignore.) -- PaulBetteridge (talk) 09:43, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted. Black Kite (talk) 10:52, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mady Mesplé[edit]

Article: Mady Mesplé (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Figaro
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Another opera singer of a century. I know there should be more lead, and a few ends lack refs, - could someone who knows French please help? The Figaro ref probably covers more. Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

RD: Fabio Lombini[edit]

Article: Fabio Lombini (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): 1, 2
  • If this is an RD nomination, no blurb is necessary. 331dot (talk) 09:47, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Ow, yes, sorry. Was supposed to be my “comment”. SportsOlympic (talk) 09:58, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Converted to RD per discussion.130.233.2.88 (talk) 10:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Osia Lewis[edit]

Article: Osia Lewis (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): OregonLive, Tennessean
Credits:

Nominator's comments: American athlete & coach. - Indefensible (talk) 04:51, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Christo[edit]

Article: Christo (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, NYT, CNN
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Conceptual artist known for large-scale, international spectacle events, many of which are independently notable czar 23:46, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose - article has multiple issues which must be addressed before posting. - Indefensible (talk) 23:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality alone - the article is long, but it seems to have many issues. By the way, shouldn’t the "Early Life" section be before the "Marriage and Career" section? RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk 03:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC) Weak Support - article is in acceptable shape now, but would need some more sourcing to be completely acceptable. RedBulbBlueBlood9911|Talk 04:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Indefensible and RedBulbBlueBlood9911, the article and its tags has been updated, if you'll revisit. To the question, no, the early lives of the artists need not precede their careers, which is the focus of the article. czar 04:16, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    User:Czar, good work with the updates but still not ready in my opinion, there is much that currently does not look referenced. - Indefensible (talk) 04:28, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose inline external links and unreferenced awards. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:09, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
@The Rambling Man and Indefensible, after much ado, fully sourced now, if you'll revisit czar 06:58, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
He was quite a wrap star, all right. – Sca (talk) 13:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - good enough now. Ever had a case where you changed your vote on an RD twice? RedBulbBlueBlood9911Talk 07:47, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - article looks like it meets the requirements now, good work on the updates. - Indefensible (talk) 15:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted. 331dot (talk) 20:12, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

RD: Norman Lamm[edit]

Article: Norman Lamm (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2][3]
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Chancellor of Yeshiva University, Major leader of American Modern Orthodox Judaism, Author, scholar and communal leader. I think even a blurb might be appropriate in this case. Sir Joseph (talk) 18:21, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose article is a mess, also for the record, oppose blurb should by some miracle the article gets polished sufficiently. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 19:20, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose nowhere near qualifying for blurb - not even the leader of a minor religion in one country. Oppose RD at the moment, it looks to be improved since TRM's comment, but its referencing is still a mess. Kingsif (talk) 21:33, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose - suffers from long article curse; the more material the article has, the more referencing is required and thus the more likely it will not meet on quality. - Indefensible (talk) 22:41, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose – At 2,800 words this seems overlong for an RD-only nom. (BTW, includes "Writings by relatives" section of questionable relevance.)Sca (talk) 13:18, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    I agree with the small point, but the length of an article in words doesn't really have a bearing on its suitability for RD specifically, unless it's too short of course. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 14:26, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
True, but it seems like overkill – and I, too, would oppose a blurb. – Sca (talk) 15:46, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Sca, the article has been update and I think it is OK for an RD at this time. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Still a considerable amount of unsourced material. Black Kite (talk) 01:27, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

May 30[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections
  • COVID-19 pandemic in Russia
    • Russian President Vladimir Putin announces the adoption of a new package of measures to support the economy and citizens in the context of the coronavirus pandemic. This payment does not cancel but supplements the previously introduced support measures. Additionally, Putin proposed to establish a monthly payment of five thousand rubles for families with children under three years of age. (RT)

Science and technology

(Posted) RD: Michel Gauthier[edit]

Article: Michel Gauthier (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; The Globe and Mail; La Presse (in French)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Leader of the Official Opposition in Canada from 1996 to 1997. Bloom6132 (talk) 11:33, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Yawovi Agboyibo[edit]

Article: Yawovi Agboyibo (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): L-frii (French)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Prime Minister of Togo. - Indefensible (talk) 05:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Nzenze[edit]

Article: John Nzenze (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Nation
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Kenyan musician. - Indefensible (talk) 05:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Support – well referenced. It would be nice though to have a sentence in the prose on his death (when, where, age and perhaps cause if one is given). —Bloom6132 (talk) 07:38, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 00:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Hassan Hosny[edit]

Article: Hassan Hosny (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The National, Gulf News
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Veteran Egyptian actor and comedian who performed in almost 500 films, plays and TV shows over a 50+ year career. Well-known in the Arab World. Droodkin (talk) 13:25, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I have adjusted the section accordingly and hope for a second look. Droodkin (talk) 23:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Both WP:ELP and WP:CITINGIMDB state that you cannot use IMDb as a reliable source. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:28, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Stale Stephen 23:09, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Elsa Dorfman[edit]

Article: Elsa Dorfman (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Boston Globe; WBUR-FM
Credits:

Article updated

 Bloom6132 (talk) 12:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bobby Morrow[edit]

Article: Bobby Morrow (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press; ValleyCentral News
Credits:

Article updated

 Bloom6132 (talk) 02:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Crew Dragon[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Crew Dragon Demo-2 (talk, history)
Blurb: SpaceX's Crew Dragon and Falcon 9 make their first crewed launch (pictured) for NASA. (Post)
Alternative blurb: SpaceX's Crew Dragon makes its first crewed launch (pictured) for NASA aboard Falcon 9.
News source(s): NYT; BBC
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

Nominator's comments: The hatch is closed and the countdown running but the weather is not looking good again.... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:13, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Support article is fine, assuming she goes up only a tense update keeps this off the main page. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:17, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support – Weather looks good so far. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 18:56, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose even if it launches As someone who works in the space industry, this is a huge fucking deal for it, but I'm unsure as to its impact outside of the space industry or the United States. Perhaps something like a Moon return/crewed Mars landing might be better for us. I won't particularly mind being overturned by consensus though, and have added an altblurb. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 19:06, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Manned spaceflight is on WP:ITNR which means it gets an automatic pass for notability --LaserLegs (talk) 19:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
      • Hopefully that'll change this decade (since it'll be too common), but duly noted. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 19:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support, unless it's called off in the next 2 minutes. We might want to find a way to note that it's the first private launch rather than calling out the specific company. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 19:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support it's happening Wqwt (talk) 19:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support per above. Davey2116 (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted For changes and updated photos go to WP:ERRORS - Fuzheado | Talk 19:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Change blurb to a more topical one that notes of its importance; "The first crewed orbital mission launched from the United States in nine years commences, with SpaceX's Crew Dragon for NASA". Also swap the featured image with the higher quality File:SpaceX Demo-2 Launch (NHQ202005300041).jpgPhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 01:16, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
    • I would oppose that change given that it's a bit US-centric (I am aware of the "Please do not..." section on the matter, but still) compared to the current blurb. I have no opinion regarding the photos. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 01:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
      • @John M Wolfson: Isn't that what makes it uniquely newsworthy than most human spaceflights, though? ITN is usually stuck-up about items having to be uniquely newsworthy, so being the first American crewed orbital spaceflight in nearly a decade seems to fit that bill. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 01:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
        • While that's true (and would itself be noteworthy), the newsworthiness derives from this being SpaceX's first crewed flight, which is in of itself a huge deal in the commercial space industry and thereby more globally than the US; besides, even if the ITN pedants complained about this (as I did earlier), crewed spaceflight is ITNR. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 01:31, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
          • The blurb is absolutely fine as it is. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 10:12, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
            • The blurb is very confusing. I had no idea who SpaceX or NASA was until I clicked the link, only to find out that once again they're in the US which is a great Satan where nothing interesting ever happens. How can I know to oppose and complain about a nom without reading the articles or understanding the subject unless it's clearly labeled "in the US"? --LaserLegs (talk) 21:53, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
              • I think the fact that the article is at NASA means the initialism is well understood, perhaps not by you but by the vast majority of readers. The nationalities of this "story" are completely irrelevant. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:18, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

May 29[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

(Posted) RD: Shahine Robinson[edit]

Article: Shahine Robinson (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jamaica Observer
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Jamaican politician. - Indefensible (talk) 05:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jerzy Pilch[edit]

Article: Jerzy Pilch (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Polskie Radio 24
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Polish author & journalist. - Indefensible (talk) 05:27, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment – there's still one paragraph and the second last sentence unreferenced. Also, the three books that do not have ISBNs should be referenced some other way. —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Support – looks like it meets requirements now. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:02, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:30, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Maikanti Baru[edit]

Article: Maikanti Baru (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Cable
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Nigerian oil marketer, former chief of state oil company. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:02, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Support article just about long enough. I would move the sentence on the death though. Juxlos (talk) 06:35, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose Limited depth of coverage. His role as Group Managing Director of NNPC seems important; what did he do in that role? SpencerT•C 15:04, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Now stale. Black Kite (talk) 10:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Twin Cities riots[edit]

New blurb posted, item bumped, issues with it can go to WP:ERRORS --LaserLegs (talk) 09:55, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Proposed image
Articles: Twin Cities riots (talk, history) and Death of George Floyd (talk, history)
Blurb: ​In the United States, protests and riots (pictured) break out following the death of George Floyd during a police arrest in Minneapolis. (Post)
News source(s): WaPo, Yahoo!, BBC, France24, AP, Mpls. Star-Tribune
Credits:

Both articles updated
Nominator's comments: International coverage, notable development. Though there is a proposed rename, it seems to be closing soon. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 15:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - would normally not support this straight away, but this is extraordinary events and escalations.BabbaQ (talk) 16:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Question isn't this in the box already? Are you seeking a blurb update? --LaserLegs (talk) 16:11, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support the blurb update. Feels like the riots have overshadowed the murder itself in coverage. Juxlos (talk) 16:33, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support a worthy story(ies) for blurbing. ——Serial # 16:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support the confluence not only of the riots, but the arrests of the CNN crew, Trump's response which Twitter flagged tied to Section 230 stuff - all literally overnight - its a mess and agreed now this is much larger than the actual death issue. --Masem (t) 16:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support but some of the details in the the Death of George Floyd article should be trimmed. There is pretty significant duplication in both articles. TJMSmith (talk) 16:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - It is notable for inclusion. Myxomatosis57 (talk) 18:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • SupportJohn M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 18:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • plus PostedBagumba (talk) 19:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Post-posting comment – Does the name Philando Castile ring a bell, by any chance? – Sca (talk) 22:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Update – Fired police officer Derek Chauvin charged with murder, manslaughter in George Floyd death. – Sca (talk) 22:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Which is true, but the protests are the news item not the police brutality nor the charges against the officer. No need to update the blurb. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
Also remember: we usually only post on conviction, not arrest. --Masem (t) 05:43, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Update as the protests (and rioting) seem to have spread to other cities across the US (AP reports clashes in Atlanta and NYC), should this link to the national-leval article George Floyd protests instead? Juxlos (talk) 05:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    • The protest article is not in good shape to be linked, but I have devised a solution by bringing some of the most notable/worst cases of those incidents into the riots article so that the highlighted article is covering them, so that we not buried the nationwide violence going on in the main topic story. --Masem (t) 05:43, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Absolutely no media mention where I come from of "Twin Cities". What is that? Described exclusively as being "Minneapolis". Any chance we can change this to a more globally recognisable name? Because "Twin Cities" simply isn't in the news here. HiLo48 (talk) 05:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    That is a comment for Talk:Twin Cities riots where several RM discussions are taking place — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:02, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    No it's not. That page is a mess, with all sorts of RM discussions (as you say) and none of them to what I'm suggesting. We can fix this bit ourselves. I checked all the sources at the top of this nomination. The first is paywalled, so I have no idea what it says, but all the others describe these riots as being in Minneapolis. No mention of Twin Cities. Minneapolis Riots is already a redirect to Twin Cities riots. For clarity, can we simply change the title of this section to Minneapolis riots? (How did this ever get the name Twin Cities riots in the first place? It obviously doesn't reflect the sources.) HiLo48 (talk) 08:52, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    A cursory search for "Twin Cities riots" give 25.6 million results, "Minneapolis riots" give 161 million. Juxlos (talk) 09:12, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    I have attempted a reword of the blurb (comments invited) but I can't unilaterally move the article. That will have to wait for the RM to conclude. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

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(Stale) RD: Abderrahmane Youssoufi[edit]

Article: Abderrahmane Youssoufi (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Middle East Online
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Moroccan lawyer, politician, former PM of Morocco, socialist activist and of other causes. On the short side, but sourced. ^_^ CoryGlee (talk) 12:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Support Well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 17:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Insufficient coverage of the subject's political career; article is essentially a resume in prose format. His work as PM is summarized as "His government provided greater freedoms for the people and media", which is pretty vague IMO. SpencerT•C 17:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
That's sadly true. CoryGlee (talk) 18:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

(Stale) RD: Ajit Jogi[edit]

Article: Ajit Jogi (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times
Credits:
Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: First Chief Minister of Chhattisgarh Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose Has some but not complete referencing; has a general list of political positions and committees without depth of coverage regarding what the subject did in those roles. Controversies section shows some depth of coverage but isn't really balanced by what the subject did as a politician (and thus could possibly be UNDUE, but due to the limited detail elsewhere in the article). SpencerT•C 21:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Now stale. Black Kite (talk) 10:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

May 28[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Sports

(Posted) RD: Peter Alexander (artist)[edit]

Article: Peter Alexander (artist) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Died on May 26, but his death was only first reported on May 28. Bloom6132 (talk) 10:41, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Support pretty well referenced and updated article JW 1961 Talk 18:27, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose Limited depth of coverage of the subject; article seems to be essentially a resume in prose format, with a mild scattering of additional details. Would like to know about the artists' themes in his work. SpencerT•C 21:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Spencer: Alright, I've started a new "Themes" section. —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:30, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Marking ready. SpencerT•C 01:36, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted. No objection after being ready for 14 hours, so posting. SpencerT•C 15:03, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Decision on Hong Kong national security legislation[edit]

Articles: National People's Congress Decision on Hong Kong national security legislation (talk, history) and 2019–20 Hong Kong protests (talk, history)
Blurb: ​The Chinese Goverment approved a decision to draft and enact the Decision on Hong Kong national security legislation law in response to the 2019–20 Hong Kong protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​The Chinese Goverment approved a decision to draft and enact the Decision on Hong Kong national security legislation law and the United States declared that Hong Kong is no longer autonomous from China in response to the 2019–20 Hong Kong protests.
Alternative blurb II: ​The Chinese Goverment approved a decision to draft and enact the Decision on Hong Kong national security legislation law, with only one person opposing and 6 abstaining, in response to the 2019–20 Hong Kong protests.
Alternative blurb III: ​The Hong Kong national security legislation law is enacted by the Chinese government, giving them increased control over Hong Kong.
Alternative blurb IV: ​US to suspend Hong Kong special trade status after China decides to draft and enact national security legislation for Hong Kong
News source(s): BBC, Bloomberg, South China Morning Post & more. BBC (alt1)
Credits:

Both articles updated

 RealFakeKimT 10:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment: I think "pass…a law" should really read "approved a decision to draft and enact a [whatever] law", since the decision, as noted on the talk page, is not the law. Also, surely "autonomous from", not "autonomous to"? Docentation (talk) 10:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I have addressed your concerns. Thank you for the feedback. RealFakeKimT 10:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Question What does "agree to a decision to draft and enact" mean in China? Is the law on the books today or not? --LaserLegs (talk) 11:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • The decision authorises a separate body to start writing the actual law. It isn't really in and of itself much of a law in the ordinary sense; we can think of it more as a statement of intent, albeit one with legal effect. The national security law that will follow hasn't even been written yet. Docentation (talk) 11:17, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • When do government agencies start to carry out the intent of the law? Now, or when it's enacted? --LaserLegs (talk) 11:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • When it's enacted. There may also be new government agencies established, but, again, those will be created after the enactment of the law. Docentation (talk) 16:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • In that case I'm leaning more towards wait for it to actually come into force, or if it's posted now then to not post it again as it moves through the legislative process --LaserLegs (talk) 16:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Hm, interesting suggestion. Perhaps you're right—maybe we should wait. I think the furore itself might be worth covering, but that's not as clear cut. (Obviously in that case my initial alt. IV is fairly unhelpful, so I'll change it.) Docentation (talk) 18:11, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose in it's current state 2/3 of the article is "background" and "responses" filler and while some domestic responses are pertinent, a lot of it is just fluff. --LaserLegs (talk) 11:04, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I should say that the background/legal authority section is not just about background, and most of it in fact is pretty directly germane to the decision, in that it concerns whether or not the decision was constitutionally permissible. I agree that much of the "response" section is fluff, but at least the US international response section is probably worth including, in that more than words could follow. Docentation (talk) 11:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • That Dotard and his lackeys would use any excuse they can to antagonize the PRC should surprise no one. The US has zero credibility in this regard. I retract my objection to the background section, upon reflection, you are correct. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I've cleaned up the reaction section quite a bit. I wouldn't say it was fluff so much as inflated—I think it was more that undue weight was given to it, in that that section was far too long. I've cut it down so that now it's clear that many countries have opposed it without having to duplicate mostly fairly similar statements for each. And yes, as for the Trump stuff, it seems quite probable that there will be more than words here, and the conflict will escalate quite a bit, so it is worth leaving in the different steps—decertification of autonomy, proposals to impose sanctions, etc.—though I did remove some duplication and Trump asking exactly what was going on in his usual, er, bombastic fashion; we now have better idea from his officials of what exactly will be done. Docentation (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • The proposed blurbs are too arcane - which I suppose is residue of the Chinese legislative process. The only think concrete at this stage is Pompeo's decertification - that might be a good way to position. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Yes, except the target would still need to be the law... it's tricky. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment – Agree that the suggested blurbs are too diffuse and prolix (as is the title of this nom.). Most of the mainstream coverage I've seen hangs its hat on a simple idea – usually the move to "make insulting China’s national anthem a criminal offense" (Time). – Sca (talk) 13:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • The National Anthem Bill and the national security decision are two separate things that shouldn't be conflated. Docentation (talk) 16:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support in principle but the blurbs are lengthy (the protests should not be bolded, for example) and the quality of the articles is subpar. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 14:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support in principle, not a big fan of the blurbs though. Needs something more concise, something that's both not too long and yet clarifies what's at stake. Rami R 15:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Added alt3 as a concise alternative; please tweak if the phrasing is inaccurate. Kingsif (talk) 16:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Made it more neutral as it doesn't do that on paper but probably will in practices. RealFakeKimT 17:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • It's enacted, or they've decided to draft legislation? --LaserLegs (talk) 17:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment yet another alternative, hopefully sufficiently clear, but more accurate. Docentation (talk) 18:08, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Wait. This is a significant story with major implications for Hong Kong's autonomy, but all that has happened so far is the rubber-stamping of permission to draft a security law that the central government is threatening to impose. If/when that law is actually completed and imposed on Hong Kong, that will be a major development worth posting in ITN. Mere formalities around the drafting process are not. We should wait until the law is implemented or there are major public protests (minor ones have begun). Modest Genius talk 18:18, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Note that given China's political system, this would not be occurring if there was any chance the government would reject this effort. Their legislature is a rubber-stamp body. 331dot (talk) 19:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
In addition to that, I should say that the US reaction is possibly newsworthy. Docentation (talk) 19:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Well yes, that's the point. The decision had already been taken privately; the NPC vote is just a rubber-stamp. Why post the stage that was never in any doubt? Modest Genius talk 20:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
China has a habit of doing this sort of thing in an incremental way that prevents people from taking note until it's all over. When would you have it posted? GreatCaesarsGhost 00:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
As I said above: when the law actually comes into force, or when large-scale protests erupt. ITN's role is to post important events, not minor ones that seem to be a step on the way to something significant. Modest Genius talk 11:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose - For now. The law is not in effect yet. Until that happens I don’t see a reason to post.BabbaQ (talk) 08:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Until actually enacted. Gotitbro (talk) 01:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Agree this is a news item to post once it is enacted, but it does not appear to be close to that at this point. --Masem (t) 01:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article is tagged and under review at DRN. It's a well-covered topic that would be posted quickly here but for wont of a suitable article. The comment above, to the effect that subject's political system operates incrementally and thus necessarily never affords a watershed moment for posting, is spot on. "Wait" is the wrong response, but the article has to be at least free of tags. Edit history suggests that article could use some pp.130.233.2.88 (talk) 07:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment—in view of developments a few hours ago I have altered Alt. IV. Also, I think the article has now been cleaned up to a reasonable extent. The reaction section is fairly short and concise, especially in the statements subsection. Most of the space is dedicated to actual policy responses. The factual accuracy dispute has been resolved. The earlier background/legal authority section mostly concerns whether the decision's proposals are constitutional, so aren't just about earlier developments. Docentation (talk) 22:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support (alt. IV)—suspension of HK trade status is reasonably impactful. There is an article about the thing that triggered this (the decision to draft and enact the law), and there is something reasonably newsworthy. Docentation (talk) 22:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Paul Shrubb[edit]

Article: Paul Shrubb (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Aldershot Town FC
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: English football player and manager, seems a decently referenced little article JW 1961 Talk 21:00, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Support - Short but sufficient.BabbaQ (talk) 21:05, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

May 27[edit]

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

(Posted) RD: Biff Pocoroba[edit]

Article: Biff Pocoroba (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press; NBC Sports; The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Died on May 24, but his death was only first reported on May 27. Bloom6132 (talk) 17:47, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Support - Seems ready for RD.BabbaQ (talk) 20:54, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - Short but well referenced article JW 1961 Talk 21:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sam Johnson[edit]

Article: Sam Johnson (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times / Reuters, Associated Press, The Dallas Morning News
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: US congressman who served in both the Korean War and the Vietnam WarBloom6132 (talk) 03:54, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose one or two citations missing and a few inline external links which need to be converted to references or moved to the "External links" section. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 07:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @The Rambling Man: Fixed – added a couple of citations, converted the inline external links into refs, and removed an unsourced statement that turned out to be false. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support as it is now a pretty well referenced article JW 1961 Talk 11:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 12:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Crew Dragon[edit]

Closing as the launch was scrubbed. Can be renominated when the launch occurs. 331dot (talk) 20:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
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Proposed image
Article: Dragon 2 (talk, history)
Blurb: ​SpaceX's Crew Dragon (pictured) makes its first manned launch for NASA (Post)
News source(s): BBC; CNN
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.
Nominator's comments: I'm watching the countdown and feeling the excitement of the original space race. Coverage such as the BBC example is calling this a historic new era. The outcome remains to be seen but we should be getting an entry ready. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • That's fine by me. The exact details and blurb may need amendment if the launch doesn't go to plan. If it's aborted then we'd probably have to leave it for now but we shall see. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I agree; the article on this launch specifically should be the target article.-- P-K3 (talk) 19:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Put it up tomorrow if we can, today's launch has been scrubbed. Neverbuffed (talk) 20:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Scrubbed at T -16, alas. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:19, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Suggest close without prejudice and renominating on launch. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:20, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Crew Dragon Demo-2 is decent, few CN tags I added but even without refs the passages aren't scandalous. A bit proseline-y and we should wait until the actual launch before posting (which I admit is in 15 minutes) due to the possibility of a weather related scrub. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:19, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Larry Kramer[edit]

Article: Larry Kramer (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: American playwright and LGBT rights activist dies at age 84. Non-COVID. Davey2116 (talk) 15:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose There are cite tags to take care of. P-K3 (talk) 17:26, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support He was one of the most important activists in the AIDS Crisis in the US. Fwiw, I'll spend some time on fixing refs over the next few hours. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 19:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Needs fixing of a few {{cn}} tags, otherwise appears fine. Gotitbro (talk) 20:41, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose I've tagged it, plenty of unreferenced material in there, including awards.... The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 21:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support once the citation tags are addressed. Would consider a blurb. TJMSmith (talk) 00:05, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support He founded ACT UP and was a crucial HIV+/AIDS activist. Open to a blurb-TenorTwelve (talk) 06:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment there are still quite a few cn's in there, will support when fixed JW 1961 Talk 11:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
    Yes there's quite a long way to do quality-wise. It's all very well people saying they want a blurb, but the article needs to be fixed first.-- P-K3 (talk) 12:42, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment I've provided refs for all the remaining {{cn}} notes that hadn't already been caught. (Kudos to Sunshineisles2, Bmclaughlin9, All Hallow's Wraith and Ryn AAPB in pticlr for their work in the last 24 hours.) I'm sure there will be other aspects of the article that can be improved before it could go to WP:GAN, but I'd suggest it might be good enough for ITN now? — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 22:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC) (PingingP-K3 and The Rambling Man, for updated feedback.)
  • Support Now properly referenced, it certainly meets the ITN standard. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 22:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:59, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

References[edit]

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents: