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An image I uploaded

Hi, I have uploaded Image:David Borrow.jpg - I think it is fair use and have tried to add the correct templates and rational but as it's somewhat complicated I'd like someone to tell me if I've done this OK. AreaControl (talk) 22:15, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

That image is probably not usable on Wikipedia. The first of the non-free content criteria is that it be impossible to make a free alternative, and for people this is interpreted as meaning they have to be dead. Algebraist 22:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Ah, but perhaps if it is difficult to find the means of creating another image? AreaControl (talk) 22:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
You can try that argument when someone tries to delete it. I wouldn't bet on your chances though. <shrugs> Algebraist 22:30, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok thanks AreaControl (talk) 16:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Need clarification for what is a conflict of interest in creating an article

I teach at the Jandoli School of Journalism and Mass Communication at St. Bonaventure University. (It's also where I earned my bachelor's degree.) I noticed when I looked at the general university article that the Jandoli School has a red link. At some point, I'd like to try my hand at writing an article about the JMC School to fill in that red link ... but I don't want to be in violation of the conflict of interest policy. Should I go look for a different project to try for my first article or would this one be OK?

Can you leave an answer on my talk page, please? Thanks for your help Musicmountain (talk) 04:16, 1 September 2008 (UTC)musicmountain

Replied on user's talk page. TNX-Man 14:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Rabinovich Alexander

Rabinovich Alexander (21 juni 1947) — is the violin-maker from St. Petersburg, apprentice of Ivan Krivov. Currently, mr. Rabinovich has created more than 300 string instruments and bows. He makes classic string instruments - violins, violas, cellos and bows, as well as baroque violins, bows and quintons. Mr. Rabinovich also repairs antique instruments.

The main achievement of Alexander Rabinovich is revealing of the secrets of old Italians' grounding and lacquering of wood. It makes possible to compare the sounding of his new instruments to the best of the old Italian ones. Many publications in the mass media are dedicated to this fact.

Many famous musicians, such as Ilia Gringoltz, Virtuoso violinist, winner of Paganini contes and Sergey Levitin, the concertmaster of British Royal Opera House [[Covent Garden|Covent-Garden. His instruments are also in the possession of the St. Petersburg State Conservatory

THe master continues to work actively in his home city of St. Petersburg.

[Home Page] —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Your first article if you want to create an article. But your current text would be unsuited because it has no independent sources to establish notability, and it is promotional. See Wikipedia:Notability (people), and see Wikipedia:Autobiography or Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if you are the subject or somebody close. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

How to add a geneological chart which in excel to an articel

Hi I would like to paste a geneology chart which i have created in excel, which is in two pages width, could you please show me how to do this in wikipedia Khengar (talk) 10:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia uses a wikitext format and does not allow Excel format. If you want to convert then you could try Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content from other formats to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format. See Category:Genealogy formatting templates for how Wikipedia articles often format geneology (I assume the automated converter tools cannot use those templates). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

User Contribution count


I'm quite new to making contributions - and have gone along well enough, until now

My query is - I just added a small paragraph - and it doesn't appear in my User Contribution count

The page in question is

and I placed at the top of the section 'Honors and Refs', the following text

Former Yankees legend Graig Nettles has a lot to report about Martin in his book 'Balls' (1984) co-written with Peter Golenbock. This includes the fact that Billy was once analyzed in her daily syndicated newspaper column (the Post) by Joyce Brothers, well-known American psychologist and advice columnist.

Here's my list which doesn't 'credit' me with this item. Can you clarify why please?

I'm Colin Kilgour .......... email

Colinkilgour (talk) 12:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

<email removed to prevent spam> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colinkilgour (talkcontribs) 12:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

You were logged out when you added that text. The edits are thus attributed to your IP address, Algebraist 12:21, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Click the "history" tab at top of Billy Martin to see the contributors. IP edits cannot be transferred to a user account. See Help:Logging in for tips on how to stay logged in. Clicking "Remember me" at login works great for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for response - I had discounted not being logged in, as I presumed the edit wouldn't thus have been 'accepted' Colinkilgour (talk) 14:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Many people are surprised that anybody can just click edit and start editing, but that's how Wikipedia does it (although many have suggested to change it). A relatively small number of semi-protected pages require an autoconfirmed account (like you have) to edit. An even smaller number of fully protected pages can only be edited by administrators. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Centre for Market and Public Organisation

The Centre for Market and Public Organisation (CMPO) is a leading research centre, combining expertise in economics, geography and law. Their objective is to study the intersection between the public and private sectors of the economy, and in particular to understand the right way to organise and deliver public services. The Centre aims to develop research, contribute to the public debate and inform policy-making.

CMPO, now an ESRC Research Centre, was established in 1998 with two large grants from The Leverhulme Trust . In 2004 they were awarded ESRC Research Centre status, and CMPO now combines core funding from both the ESRC and the Trust.

The CMPO is based in the Bristol Institute of Public Affairs, University of Bristol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecalt (talkcontribs) 15:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi! This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Did you have a question, possibly about creating an article? TNX-Man 16:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Entry for Ihab Hassan in Wikepedia

Some facts that need to be added: 1. Ihab Hassan is now Emeritus Vilas Professor 2. He was awarded honorary doctorates of letters from the University of Uppsala (Sweden) and the Universirty of Giessen (Germany). 3. He has received 2 Guggenheim Fellowships and 2 Senior Fulbright Lectureships (France). How can these facts be added to the entry of Ihab Hassan? Thank you.Whiteoak2008 (talk) 16:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Algebraist 16:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Bedri Rahmi Eyüboğlu in english

my edited text is not saved exactly as it was written. a line box generated itself and part of the tex is lost How do I modify this error?Yazmame (talk) 18:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Whenever you put in a space at the beginning of a line, it generates a dotted-line box.
This is an example.

I corrected this issue in the article on which you were working. Cheers! TNX-Man 18:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

URL for my page

Good morning,

I have updated my page over the last week, but have found that the URL for my page ends with "wiki/User: P_C_McKinnon" My page also doesn't come up with a search. All the McKinnons come up, but not mine. Did I do something wrong to have this URL? When will the URL change to "wiki/P_C_McKinnon" ?

Thanks for your assistance. (talk) 16:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, you created the article in User space (ie as a user page) rather than as an article page. It could be moved to the article space, but at the moment it reads a little like a vanity piece. Do you have any reliable sources to support the notability of the subject? As you are the subject of the article you have a pretty big conflict of interest so you should not be writing articles about yourself. If you are notable, someone else will write an article about you sooner or later. See WP:BIO.  – ukexpat (talk) 17:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Messed up editing article: Green Grow the Lilacs

I wanted to add information to the article that the song "Green Grow the Lilacs" appears in the LP album "The Old Chisholm Trail" songs of the american southwest by TONY KRABER. Mercury Records LP MG 20008.

I first added information directly to the Notes section. I then realized that I should add a line to the body of the article and create a reference instead. I did that, and the main body looks OK, but the Notes section is hopelessly garbled. I believe there were four other references initially.

(Minor question: Should I capitalize the reference as above, which is the way the album does it, or use normal capitalization?)

Thanks for your help.

JFistere (talk) 21:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

There was an unclosed ref tag in [1]. An editor fixed it in [2]. There is only reason to name a ref tag if it's used more than once. See Wikipedia:Footnotes. You shouldn't write all capitals like TONY KRABER in a reference just because the source does it. If "songs of the american southwest" is part of an official title then it might be written like that but then it should also be clear with quotes or italics that it's a title. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
See more at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (titles) and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters)#All caps. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Actually, I was the one who fixed it the way you recommended even before I read your post. I'm learning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JFistere (talkcontribs) 00:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Good! There is more learning at Help:Logging in#How to log in and Wikipedia:Signatures#How to sign your posts ;-) PrimeHunter (talk) 01:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

need help in the following article.

I want to submit following article on wikipedia but am unable to get approval for the following article. Would appreciate if you could provide me with the feedback how I can improve it so that it goes live on wikipedia.

Soffront software develops Customer Relationship Management (CRM) software for Small and medium enterprises .

Contents [hide] 1 History 2 Products 3 Deployment types 4 License 5 See also 6 External links 7 References

[edit] History Soffront software was founded in 1992 by Manu Das who was recognized as CRM Leader by CRM Magazine for the year 2004. Soffront launched its first customer service application in 1993.Since its inception Soffront CRM has been installed in more than 2500 corporations worldwide.

[edit] Products Soffront solution is Web-based and XML compliant. It operates as a zero foot-print web client. The databases supported include Oracle, and Microsoft SQL Server. Soffront CRM is comprised of following Solutions:

Sales Automation: Automates Sales process Marketing Automation: Automates Marketing process Customer Support: Web based customer support Employee Help desk: Enter, track, manage, resolve and escalate employee support tickets. Knowledge Management: Knowledge Management System for support agents, engineers, employees and customers. CRM Portals: Customer portal: For Customers Partner portal: For Channel Employee Portal: For employees Asset and Inventory Management: Enter, Audit and track company assets and inventories. Sales order processing: Automates the sales order process and integrates with accounting and ERP systems.

[edit] Deployment types Soffront software offers hosted, on-premises and host to own solutions.

[edit] License Soffront's licensing options are - floating, dedicated, site, departmental, timed or leased.

[edit] See also Customer Relationship Management Sales Force Automation Web application

[edit] External links Main website

[edit] References,-Inc.-836.aspx,7211,41032,00.html Retrieved from ""

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuzhatara (talkcontribs) 21:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuzhatara (talkcontribs) 21:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Editors must be autoconfirmed in order to create articles: have their account exist for 4 days and have at least 10 edits. In the process of asking these questions, you've passed the 10 edit mark, so you should be able to create the article. However, before creating the article, please read Wikipedia:Notability to be sure that your article is notable by Wikipedia's standards. Striking out my not very knowledgeable comments. :) -- Natalya 21:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually, you don't have to be autoconfirmed to create an article, as that page you linked to says. However, I suspect that the original poster has tried to create Soffront, and found that the title has been protected. If you look at the page, it even says why: "repeated recreation of spam article - contact an admin with a sample article to have this page unprotected". Put simply, this is what you need to do to have the article:
  1. Read WP:N and WP:CORP to see what kind of companies can have an article in Wikipedia.
  2. Read WP:NPOV and WP:SPAM to see why articles need to be written neutrally, and not appear to be advertisements.
  3. Read WP:COI to see why someone with a conflict of interest is advised not to write articles related to that interest, such as an employee of a company writing an article about that company (however, it does not prevent you entirely from doing so, but if you do, do it with caution).
  4. Create a draft of the article as a subpage of your user page, in a manner that complies with the above-linked policies and guidelines.
  5. Contact an administrator, or put a request at deletion review, asking for the title Soffront to be unprotected. In your request, link to the draft you have created.
Having done this, the administrator will let you know if your draft does indeed comply with policy, and if so will unprotect the title and probably move it for you. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Help with DramaWiki

Hello. I am a first time user and i have made a Wiki account but dramawiki will not let me create an account. I repeatedly go to the create an account/log in page but all it shows is the log in area, NOT how to make a user account. Please help me because i would like to make a correction on a page on dramawiki!

Roxyk9246 (talk) 04:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello. We are not dramawiki so therefore we can't really help you make an account on DramaWiki. BoL (Talk) 04:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't know DramaWiki but just looked at and noticed it says: "You will need to PM Ruroshin at the D-Addicts forum for an account before you can begin editing." PrimeHunter (talk) 12:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Creating An Article

How do I add a biography for painter/artist Paul Collins without it being deleted?

Collins Fine Art (talk) 14:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:BLP and WP:BIO for policies on what is required. GtstrickyTalk or C 14:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Also, if you are Mr Collins, take a look at WP:COI. For assistance writing your first article, take a look at WP:YFA. – ukexpat (talk) 17:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Adding a Definition (talk) 15:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

How do I post a new definition of a word?

Well, to create an article, you must first create an account. Aside from being able to create articles, there are lots of other benefits. Secondly, new articles must be supported by reliable sources. New definitions sometimes run afoul of Wikipedia's guidelines on neologisms. I hope this helps! TNX-Man 15:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
On the other hand Wiktionary is just the place for definitions. SpinningSpark 17:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

How do "Warning Flags" on expanded articles get removed?

Last month I expanded a stub article on Keystone View Company into a longer article. Immediately 4 "Warning Flags" appeared on the top regarding: the article may need to be cleaned up; the introduction is too short; it may contain original research or unverified claims; and article is a coat rack article.

I've attempted to clean up the article, I expanded the introduction and removed every reference to a museum about Keystone View Company, since I thought that was what made it a "coat rack" article. But I actually reduced the number of reference citations, because I had so many that the last half of them got clumped all together in an unreadable mess. (I believe I now have 13 references, and they all are listed neatly.)

After all my efforts to clean up the article, there are still those 4 warnings at the top, and I feel that makes it appear to readers that there are many errors in the article.

Does an editor, or some Wikipedia official have to review the article and remove those warnings at the top? When making text changes I was sorely tempted to go ahead and delete those warnings, but I assume that is a major contributors' sin.

How do those warning flags go away? --Karenthewriter (talk) 16:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, once the issues have been addressed, the tags can be removed by anyone. If you'd like, you could ask the editor who added the tags to review the article and see what s/he thinks. Or, you could discuss the issues on the article's talk page. Since it seems like you're interested in improving the article, it shouldn't be too much trouble to remove the tags. Cheers! TNX-Man 16:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Humāt ad-Diyār

There is a user who has changed this page for Homat el Diyar to the current title. I think the new title is not simple enough - no English speaker with anything less than a native level knowledge of Arabic will search for Humāt ad-Diyār. So the user may be right but they seem to be going around articles "correcting" things in such a way that will make them inaccessible! I have made my argument on his talk page User talk:HD1986. I don't know if according to Wikipedia rules I am wrong if so I will back off but I think the title should be accessible to English speakers and that the simplified long standing arabic transliterated title should be re-instated. After all this is geared to English speakers. AreaControl (talk) 20:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

See WP:Name for the official policy. I think you will find that someone else has already moved the article back to its original title. SpinningSpark 21:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I have moved it back to Homat el Diyar per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) and posted to User talk:HD1986. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Note that while it is certainly better at the name it has been moved back to, your concern about it being inaccessible under the other name is probably unnecessary. When an article is moved to a new name, a redirect is automatically created under the prior name, pointing to the new name. This happened here, so anyone who typed the anglified name would still have found themselves at the correct article. The same is now true in reverse.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
By the way, getting Homat el Diyar on my watchlist broke it! See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Special:Watchlist not working. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you both very much. I did not want to assert myself too much in case I was wrong AreaControl (talk) 14:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The editor was also rather incivil [3][4] and may not be nice to deal with but I can take it. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Well he called me humbly educated but thats by far not as bad as the language in your talk page. I'm sorry for causing you to recieve such attacks. AreaControl (talk) 17:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
No problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

what is the internal web address for its students`'s

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. (talk) 12:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Instead of replacing the above text with a question, you left the instructions in and posted no question. Your section header does not provide enough context to know what you are asking about. You can click the little blue edit tab just to the right of your post and still replace the instructions with your question.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

How do I find out which editor added tags to article?

Yesterday I asked a question about how to have warning flags removed from an expanded article. It was suggested that I ask the editor who added the tags to review the article to see what he or she thinks about the changes I made. But how do I find out which editor put the tags on my expanded article? Thank you for your assistance with this matter.--Karenthewriter (talk) 15:34, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the history tab on the article, you can look at the different revisions (or perhaps just see in the edit summaries) during which edit the flags were added, and then see which editor added them. -- Natalya 15:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
If you look at the very top of the page, you should see a "history" tab. This lists all of the changes made to the article and which editor/IP address made them. If an edit summary was used, that will display as well. Cheers! TNX-Man 15:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
If you believe that the problem the tag relates to is fixed there is nothing preventing you from being bold and removing it yourself. SpinningSpark 12:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
And if you do, a short note on the article's talk page explaining the fixes would be helpful. – ukexpat (talk) 13:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Social Development International (SDI) Cameroon

What is Social Development International(SDI)Cameroon doing for the Social risks and vulnerability issues in Cameroon, Africa.

Brima Bangura (talk) 11:33, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.

Cheers mate!

Λuα (Operibus anteire) 14:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Removing no references criticism

Hi Who do I contact about removing the no references criticism on a contribution? Many references have now been added but the No references criticism remains. Thanks . Wazzleido Wazzleido (talk) 14:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

You mean the tag? If so, just remove it yourself if sources have been added.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 14:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I just removed it. However, the article needs a lot of work so I suggest that Wazzleido reads WP:MOS, WP:YFA and Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify. – ukexpat (talk) 14:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

aj —Preceding unsigned comment added by HYPER AJ (talkcontribs) 18:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


HYPER MAGNIFICENT DANCERS also known as "THE MAGNIFICENT DANCERS" This is an all male group of DANCERS from MANILA PHILIPPINES. This is Originally Managed by MR. NOLI MADRIGAL(a.k.a NOEL MADRIDEO) a broadcaster/radio commentator and a showbiz reporter. HYPER MAGNIFICENT DANCERS is also the official Dance squad of THE NATIONAL TRI-MEDIA ACTION GROUP. They are also the official dancer for JACKIE CERVANTES of AQUARIUS RECORDS. They can be seen in GMA-7 Late night show "MASTERSHOWMAN presents". they can also be seen in some schools performing for some seminars whom which aim is to avoid the youth in involving with crimes and addiction.


ronald john delas verlas
allan jay
mar mar
John Len
anthony Jeffrey Tuason
anthony Jordan Tuason
Carlo Cesar Bantoy
Gerald Poligratis
Christopher Ang
Claude Salinas
Jay Borja
Jayson Tupaz
Jericho Masikip

There are also a group name after them in QUEZON and SAN PABLO. "THE HYPER MAGNIFICENT DANCERS" of SAN PABLO and QUEZON.

Good for them. Is there a question in there? Also, you might want to see WP:YFA and especially WP:N. Paragon12321 19:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Centered Headings in Infobox

Is there a way to center a heading in an infobox that is collapsible? The [show]/[hide] offsets it normally. MrKIA11 (talk) 18:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

It depends on how the infobox template has been coded. But in this example Template:Linear analog electronic filter (which uses the "infobox" class in the template) putting an align parameter before the heading works as in

! align=center | <type your heading here>

Collapsing the boxes still retains centered headings. If you are trying to use a pre-existing infobox this might not be possible however, some of them use fiendishly complicated code that is not always predictable when you try to do something clever. SpinningSpark 19:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

What is the infobox in question? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
That didn't work for my situation. The template is {{Infobox VG}}, but I'm working on it here since it's protected. Feel free to edit my page if you know how to fix it. MrKIA11 (talk) 19:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
You can pad the title by using {{pad}}. This same issue was fixed in {{navbox}} some time back, but I can't remember who fixed it. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone else know a way? Using {{pad}} would be a hassle in this case. MrKIA11 (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Help, please, someone? MrKIA11 (talk) 13:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


I read something about Wiki... e-mail. Is there e-mail on wiki... for contributors? If so how do I access it? Bmoc2012tms (talk) 20:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:E-mailing users. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Click on your preferences at the top of the page. There is a section for your e-mail address there. If someone has enabled e-mail for themselves, it will have a link under toolbox on the left that says E-mail this user. (ec) MrKIA11 (talk) 20:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
If you are asking about an e-mail server (like hotmail, gmail) for WP contributors, then I am afraid that does not exist (yet!).
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 15:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Nor is there likely to be (I hope). User talk pages are the place for communication among editors. – ukexpat (talk) 15:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Come on! :)
Don't say does not appeal to you!
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 13:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Uh oh, I think you just clogged up the postmaster's mailbox with "unknown address" messages.  – ukexpat (talk) 15:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

thanks guys!!! I am hoping that "wikimail" will exist in the next year!!!  ;) Bmoc2012tms (talk) 16:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Uploading an image and other questions from a very new contributor

I've just created an article on my user page and want to upload an image file of the person it is about. I don't have rights to do so (within the 4 days and haven't edited any other pages yet) so how do I go about it? Can someone else do it for me?

Also, it is not clear from what I've read (far too many pages similar pages by the way - very confusing knowing where to begin) how I create the main title of the article. On my user page I've tried using =title=, which gives it the right style but screws up the numbering in the table of contents.

Also, when I am ready to 'publish' it, how do I go about it? Do I have to transfer the code and text to another page (I know I have to do a search and when it doesn't find a page I can click on create a page and go from there) or can I do it directly from my user page?

Could you please post your reply to my talk page.

Many thanks Idmc (talk) 23:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Will reply on user's talk page. Scottydude review 23:49, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I cannot upload pictures!


Can someone give me step-by-step instructions. The ones Wikipiedia gives me are soooo complicated. My CP runs on WINDOWS VISTA  :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmoc2012tms (talkcontribs) 14:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

picture problem!!!

My CP runs on WINDOWS VISTA :) but I can't upload a picture onto a page (728th Military Police).


Can someone explain IN DETAIL how to put a picture on this page? Please the Wiki... instructions are too complicated!!!  :’(

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. Bmoc2012tms (talk) 14:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Bmoc2012tms (talk) 14:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I can see from your log that you have not uploaded anything. A picture from your computer cannot be directly uploaded onto an article here, you need to upload that picture to Wikipedia first: go to Wikipedia:Upload and follow the instruction there. I think it is very detailed already, but if you're stuck at some point, feel free to ask more questions. :) --PeaceNT (talk) 14:55, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
You must make 3 more edits to become autoconfirmed before you can upload images to Wikipedia. At Wikimedia Commons you can upload images right away if you create an account there. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. (talk) 17:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm having a hard time determining your question. Can you click on the edit tab at the upper right of this section and ask again? Cheers! TNX-Man 17:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Questionable content

This article contains uncited information on how to remove an abuse-inhibiting ingredient that this drug is manufactured with. Is this not medical advice, non-encyclopedic, original research, how-to, ect? Mjpresson (talk) 18:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I would agree with you. That being said, I had to read the section two or three times to figure out what it was saying. :-) It looks like all of that info was added by an IP address. You can be bold and remove it or start a discussion on the article's talk page. Based on the number of edits to the page, I'm guessing it's not one of our more popular articles. Cheers! TNX-Man 18:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

pic problem...... AGAIN

My uploaded picture will not display. It is korea.jpg. Will it display for anyone else? Is it just my computer? You can find it on the 728th Military Police page.

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Bmoc2012tms (talk) 18:29, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

It looks to me like there are general image problems right now. So, don't worry about this- the problem will probably go away in time. Friday (talk) 18:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
It's displaying now at 728th Military Police. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

New Article

i'm having trouble placing my biography on Wikipedia. i pasted the bio into a new article; but don't think i established a "subject" with my name in it. Can you give me a step by step instruction on how to post my personal biography on Wikipedia? Dennisflannery (talk) 11:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Autobiography. You are strongly discouraged from writing your own biography. If you think that this article should be in Wikipedia then the best thing to do is request it here under the correct category, since an article about you written by yourself is likely to be deleted under WP:CSD. Also, you are not autoconfirmed yet, so you can't create an article. To be autoconfirmed you need at least 10 edits and 4 days of editing Wikipedia. Chamal Talk ± 12:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Article creation does not require autoconfirmed status. Algebraist 12:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
My mistake. I was thinking about image uploading. Sorry. Chamal Talk ± 12:14, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Your bio details are on your user page User:Dennisflannery, which seems to be the only new page you have so far created here. As noted above, if you are trying to create a new Wikipedia article about yourself then you should first read the notability guideline at Wikipedia:Notability (people) and the "conflict of interest" guidelines at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Autobiography. In a nutshell, the latter guideline says "Avoid writing or editing an article about yourself, other than to correct unambiguous errors of fact.". You may also want to consider just how much personal information you want to reveal about yourself, even on your own user page. Gandalf61 (talk) 12:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Bios can be posted at: Wikipopuli and Wikibios - they are not Wikipedia, but they don't have Wikipedia's notability requirements. – ukexpat (talk) 14:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Can I speak with someone?

is it possible to speak with a Wikipedia expert to get help? Dennisflannery (talk) 11:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

You can't 'speak' directly but you can ask your question here or at the Help Desk. You can also ask your question on your own talk page and type {{helpme}} and someone will come along and deal with your problem. If you want to ask from a specific user though, you can ask them on their talk page. If you're talking about long-term help and guidance, then you might be interested in WP:ADOPT. Hope this helps. Chamal Talk ± 11:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Linking to an external website as a reference

Hi there

I've been trying to edit the end of the article on British Sea Power but every time I try to save it I get a message telling me that I need to add no follow code. I think I've done this,but I don't seem to be getting anywhere, please help! I've pasted in the code below that I've tried to use. Luck-beckoning cat (talk) 21:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

On the 22nd July, 2008, the band were announced as one of the nominees for the 2008 Mercury Prize. To coincide with their nomination they re-released their song Waving Flags on the 8th September 2008[1], which they also performed at the award ceremony the following day.[2]

I think you are misunderstanding the message. It contains "Please note that the nofollow HTML attribute is applied to external links in Wikipedia, instructing search engines to ignore these links when computing page ranks." This information is only there to deter people who think they can increase the page rank of a website (for example their own commercial site) by linking it from Wikipedia. Nofollow is added automatically by the wiki software and you don't have to do anything regarding nofollow. Later the message should say "To help protect against automated spam, please enter the words that appear below in the box (more info)." Do you get that text and can you see the mentioned words? Entering them should allow your edit to be saved. When your account becomes autoconfirmed you should be able to save external links without having to enter such words (which are meant to stop programs adding spam links). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't sure what the problem could have been so I tried it for myself: [5]; so the information is now in the article. I linked to User:Luck-beckoning cat and the diff on this page in the edit summary (for GFDL). I had forgotten that autoconfirmed could have been the problem, otherwise I would have tried with my non-autoconfirmed alternative account to see what the problem could have been. --Snigbrook (talk) 00:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Trying my non-autoconfirmed alternative account is exactly what I did. The message is from MediaWiki:Fancycaptcha-addurl. Should it be modified, for example by changing "is applied" to "is automatically applied"? I haven't heard of other users who thought they had to add nofollow but I suppose there could be others. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:33, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Name conflict between Wikipedia and Wiktionary


I've been a contributor at English Wiktionary for a long time, my name there is Language Lover.

But I am not the Language Lover here at Wikipedia.

Well, that's okay, I'll just use this name here instead.

The problem is, with the new universal login code, if I login here as Glowing Face Man, it logs me in at English Wiktionary as Glowing Face Man, even if I'm already logged in there as Language Lover. And if I log out at English Wiktionary and log back in there as Language Lover, then it kicks me out here and leaves me not-logged-in!

How should I fix this, and please don't say "change your name at Wiktionary" :)

Glowing Face Man (talk) 22:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I see your question has been languishing, which sometimes means no one knows or there's a more targeted forum for asking. I took a look at m:Help talk:Unified login and found two users with similar problems (see here and here). They didn't receive answers to your question, but you could try asking at that forum. I did glean from that page that you can make a request to delete your global account, thus apparently placing yourself back in the situation you were in before your unification (or in your case, balkanization). You can do this at m:Steward requests/SUL requests. This is not to say that you should do this straight away. There may be a real solution, and if there is, I imagine that resolves to cookie isolation on your computer or something similar (tech stuff that is over my head). For that reason, if no one else pops by soon with a definitive answer, I think you might find the village pump technical a good place to try next.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

How do I contribute important name of people?

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my name is peter i have had cysteine stones for 19 years i drink 4 depanamine 4 times a day 4 sodi bic 4 times aday 2 peradoxine 2times aday and still get stones please help me

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Thank you for your time.

We cannot give you any medical advice. You need to see a doctor. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 12:40, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Adding a Link

I work with clinical trials and I was wondering if it was possible to add a link to a clinical trial via adding a clinical study link to disease specific indications. I'm not sure if there is an issue, other than you are providing users with information regarding investigational treatments. I just want to go about adding the information in a way that is allowable. Michelle stone1 (talk) 17:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

If the trials were published somewhere respectable, it is generally OK to include as an external link or to use it to reference information on clinical trials in the article itself. I've removed the sections on clinical trials that you've added to Wikipedia because these studies have not yet been published, or probably even finished, so they don't actually add any information to the articles. Someguy1221 (talk) 17:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

user page edit

I am working on my user page. I can't seem to get it to work right. I have a doted square around the first line of each section. How do I get rid of this? Driven To Prevail (talk) 04:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll edit your page. The dotted square is due to the space before the first line. Please check my edits if it is OK to you. E Wing (talk) 04:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Also, at the end of my page is says about Driven To Prevail. I never put that there. When I go to edit it out. It's not there. Driven To Prevail (talk) 04:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Done with the edit. Please see your userpage. E Wing (talk) 04:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

is there such a thing as tenevoxy?

my friend & I read a lot and when we read words, we get pictures from them. They're hard to describe, but they're not like the word pictures from synesthesia, at least not like we've heard them described. We wanted to come up with a word for it, because we didn't think there was one. In Latin, 'tenor' means sense, 'vox' means word, and all together, 'tenevox' means understand. We thought that tenevox could be a person who sees that sort of thing, and tenevoxy could be the actual thing, like the word pictures of synesthesia. I looked it up here, on Wikipedia, and didn't see anything about it! Can I put 'tenevox' on it, or is that a DON'T of creating new articles? (talk) 22:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello and thanks for your question! You are right in suspecting that adding a neologism such as this one isn't allowed. Specifically, Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. Also since Wikipedia is not a dictionary, a simple word definition wouldn't be allowed in any case. It is a very interesting and original combination of Latin forms, though. Thanks again for your question and be well. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 22:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Your Latin is a little dodgy. Tenor does not mean "sense", the Latin word for that is sensus (noun) or sentire (verb). The word for "word" is verbum, vox means "voice". – ukexpat (talk) 14:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC) (used to be a Classics scholar)
My Latin is a bit shaky, but I do remember tenor having something to do with sense, although it comes from tenere (from which we also have tener (es) & tenir (fr) ) meaning to hold, thus tenor would mean the holder. Again, I still believe it has something to do with sense.
That's for my 2 cents. :)
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 20:44, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

meaning of paid up capital

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Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Zain Ebrahim's answer is perfectly correct. However, this definition from investopedia may be what you are looking for. – ukexpat (talk) 14:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Quck question on conflict of interest

The Different Skies electronic music festival starts next week, and I note that Wikipedia doesn't have an article for it. I have previously played at the festival but am not this year; would it be considered a conflict of interest for me to add a page for the festival as Different Skies Festival (this also avoids having to disambiguate different skies, though that might be a good thing to do as well)?Pemungkah (talk) 20:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for your question! I don't see that as a past performer you would have a conflict of interest regarding such an article. Just be sure to establish notability in the article by verifying the information with citations to reliable sources, preferably by using footnotes. As for disambiguation page being needed, I think a simple hatnote on both Different Skies and the article you plan to create would be sufficient. Hope this addresses your concerns, happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 20:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
In further explanation, that depends how notable the festival is. If you could up with proof that it's notable, with maybe a link to a website (list it here), and if the festival has done something special (anything that separates it from others), then it would be notable. If those requirements can't be met, then, if you created the page, it would most likely be tagged for COF and for being unremarkable. Hope that answers your question.--LAAFansign review 20:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


MANswers is a comedic late night television series that premiered on Spike TV on September 19th, 2007. This half-hour long show introduces trivia for Spike viewers by presenting ludicrous questions with comedic re-enactments and delivering answers with professional and statistical verification. MANswers features expert one-on-ones and man-on-the-street interviews to educate Spike viewers on the taboo topics. The barrage of guy-oriented trivia is presented in a fast-paced manner and emulates with irreverent style.

The series is produced by Super Delicious, and airs on Spike TV and MTV Networks. The executive producers are Akifumi Takuma and Michael Schelp with additional help from producer Brant Reiter. The series premiere of Manswers beat all key demo benchmarks and saw π hour gains in male teens despite overall usage declines at midnight. The show also garnered an average of 1.1 million viewers during its first year among a specific target audience. It has ranked #2 with Men in the range of 25 to 34 years old and #3 with Men in the range of 18 to 34 in its 11:00pm timeslot on Wednesdays.

The first season consisted of 9 half hour episodes. MANswers would continue for its second season which is planned to consist of 13 episodes, running weekly on Spike TV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhomma01 (talkcontribs) 04:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

This is not a place to post articles, but rather a place where you ask questions abouts using Wikipedia. There is already an article on MANswers, you can expand it if you like by adding the above info with some sources. I also checked whether it's notable enough, and indeed it was.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 07:41, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Adding Fictional Character to page


I was adding a fictional character to the Lola name page. If my web site is not referenced, can I still not add the character because she was created by me?

Misaramirez (talk) 18:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC) Misa Ramirez
Hello. If there is evidence as to the notability of this character, then it could be worthy of inclusion. However, Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. Useight (talk) 19:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Starting out small

I have been using wikipedia for research for a long time, and I have recently decided to help contribute to wikipedia by registering and making minor edits here and there to articles where I feel it is necessary. I know little about copyright licensing and citations and referencing, and so I need some help. I want to help improve wikipedia and I don't want my articles to end up getting deleted. If you would be so kind as to explain the legalities about article creation it would be much appreciated. Thanks Murphy321 (talk) 23:10, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Here's a general message for this type of question:
Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 23:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Secret about table of contents?

Is there a secret ingredient to include a ToC on a page? In sandboxes and the first article I started from scratch, I had no problem. Then I expanded a stub and couldn't produce a ToC. Initially I suspected that the summary preceding sections must be a single paragraph. I tried and made ToC appear on this page. But then, this trick won't do in this page that I started from scratch - even after ToC it in my sand box, or in this stub that I expanded. Then, I noticed that many articles with ToC have multiple paragraphs in summary so it cannot be a deciding factor. What is the trick? Sillyvalley (talk) 17:20, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

The ToC doesn't appear automatically in pages with 3 or fewer headings. See WP:TOC for more information. Algebraist 17:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, yes there are tricks. To put a TOC on any page you can use the wikicode __TOC__. That's "_""_"TOC"_""_". The TOC will appear where ever you put that line. If you put it lower than normal, you may want to include {{skiptotoc)) on the top of the page. Hope this helps! :-) Fr33kmantalk APW 19:58, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your pointers and offers! Got 'em work'n Sillyvalley (talk) 06:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Affordable Insurance & Financial Services Pensacola,Florida

Finding home insurance in Florida is a huge task and very frustrating to homeowners to secure. This is one of the main reasons that Affordable Insurance & Financial Services opened its doors. Due to the many hurricanes and severe flooding since hurricane Andrew in 1992 the market has changed and it is hard to find coveage outside of Citizens Property which is a state pool (State backed and operated). —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

This page is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. Do you have a question? Maybe Wikipedia:FAQ/Business is relevant. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Citation template

What would be the one to reference a dvd booklet? Mjpresson (talk) 00:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

{{Cite DVD-notes}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Capitialization of Article Title

Hello, I cannot figure out how to properly capitalize the first letter of the middle and last name on this entry: Yousef al otaiba, thanks, cabUaeinfo75 (talk) 03:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Uaeinfo75. In order to rename an article you need to move it to a new target name. Moving articles, and a few other features of the software, are restricted to autoconfirmed users; that is, users whose accounts are more than 4 days old and who have made at least 10 edits. Your account is 2 edits and 3½ days short of the threshold so I moved the article for you. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Non-Roman fonts in English articles

Where can I find documentation on how to include phrases in non-Roman fonts in Wikipedia articles (something I notice is often done?) Strawberryjampot (talk) 14:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Look at your edit screen. You will see, usually at the lower left, a radio box, set by default at Insert. The other settings are Wiki markup, Symbols, Latin, Greek, Hebrew, and IPA. (Greek breathings and non-acute accents can be cut and pasted from Polytonic orthography; such characters should be used with {{polytonic}} - and even so some systems will not display them.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I will try it out. Strawberryjampot (talk) 18:00, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Material on other web sites

What should be done if I find material that has been copied verbatim from a web site into a Wikipedia entry? LLDMart (talk) 20:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Remove the content immediately and give the editor who added it the copyright violation warning, {{uw-copyright}}. If the entire page is and has always been such a violation, tag it for speedy deletion with {{db-copyvio}}. However, keep in mind that sometimes it is the other webiste that copies Wikipedia. If the copyright notice at the bottom of a website, or the date of authorship for that website is newer than the page history shows the information to have been on Wikipedia, this is probably the case, and there is nothing we need to do. You can also see Wikipedia:Copyright violations, and you may report violations to Wikipedia:Copyright problems if you're not sure of the right course of action. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
And some material is not under copyright: chiefly government publications and material published before 1923. Those aren't problems either. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:20, 15 September 200 (UTC)
That's true for US Government websites, but not necessarily others. For example, material on UK Government websites may be protected under Crown copyright. – ukexpat (talk) 00:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Simple name differences

Why can't the Wikipedia be designed to recognize simple and human differences in names that are in the Wikipedia. For example, as I have re-checked & confirmed, the Wikipedia has an article on Mount Graham, but when I put a link into another article to Mt. Graham the Wikipedia did not recognize this. This ought to be programmed in universally, and not just on a case-by-case basis. For other examples, everyone knows that Mt. McKinley and Mount McKinley are the same place, and so are Mt Blanc, Mt. Blanc, Mount Blanc. Also, everyone knows that Mt. Graham and Mt Graham are the same place. (talk) 07:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Please don't post the same question in multiple places. This is being answered on the Help Desk. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 08:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


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Infobox question

I added "|president = name of president" to infobox but it's not showing. Why? And why the text: [[Image:|150px]] shows up on top of my logo? How do I get rid of it? Thank you much!--Hydrangea Blue (talk) 19:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Which page did you have this problem on? Someguy1221 (talk) 21:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC) --Hydrangea Blue (talk) 22:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
You didn't need to wikilink the logo's image in the infobox, I've fixed that for you. You can go to the {{Infobox Organization}} template page to read a bit about the parameters, though it doesn't mention that the image doesn't have to be linked. Infoboxes aren't (yet) standardized, so some do require the image to be linked and some don't- if it's not documented you just have to try it both ways. The template doesn't have a parameter for "president" per se, rather it has two fields, |leader_title = and |leader_name = that need to be filled out appropriately. Hope that helped, cheers! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 22:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much Elipongo! --Hydrangea Blue (talk) 22:49, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Cit template

Is there one to cite audio comments made by a film director on a special dvd version of a film over which the director speaks and describes the making of the scenes, ect.?Mjpresson (talk) 22:03, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for the question!. I would probably use {{cite video}} to provide a reference to an audio commentary. You can use the |quote= parameter to say that it's from the director's audio commentary track. Hope that helps, happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 22:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Jack Innes

Jack Innes is an 11 year old Go-Kart racer who is a part of the Wollongong Kart racing club. Last year, Jacks first year of Karting, he collected many podium positions, icluding a 5th at the inurigal Prokart twilight nationals at Wollongong. Jack has been accepted to compete in a charity relay event to raise funds for MS on December 3, 2008. The event pairs Go Kart drivers with V8 supercar drivers. Jack will be paired with Tony D'Alberto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonjack66 (talkcontribs) 23:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi and Welcome to Wikipedia! I believe you are trying to submit an article, but this is not the correct place for that- follow the link to read about how to start a new article. Please note that when writing a new article you need to be sure to establish the subject's notability in the article by verifying the information with citations to reliable sources, preferably by using footnotes. Articles that don't establish their subject's notability may be deleted. Feel free to stop back if you have any more questions and happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 00:34, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Help with photos for album pages for musicians?

Gosh, I somehow really embarrassed myself and messed up the last question... but.. My question is this: I started a page for Alun Davies who was a supporting musician for Cat Stevens before Stevens adopted Islam and became Yusuf Islam, and once again plays with him. I found though, that Davies recorded several albums of a similar genre to Stevens, ending as a solo performer in 1972. What must I do to upload smaller versions of the covers of his albums for album pages? There is lots of information about them, and though I realize the copyright likely belongs to CBS (in one case), the albums have been out of circulation for some time, and would illustrate information on the main artist page. Is there a group here that handles album pages, or anyone who can advise me on this? --leahtwosaints (talk) 18:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

How to create page?

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. AwesomeManTails (talk) 20:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I am AwesomeManTails. I am a new user with one question-how do I create a page?!?

Please take a look at WP:YFA for the basics. – ukexpat (talk) 21:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Translation from German to English WP

Hello, my english is not so good, and I tried to translate Laudach and Vorchdorf (both related to Austria). Could someone please reread and correct style, grammatic and expression errors? The text is not so long anyway. (If I'm wrong here, please give me a hinte, where to asek). thanks and regards, --FrancescoA (talk) 11:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I fixed up Vorchdorf to some extent. I'm confused about the section where the article lists a whole bunch of regions with a section header implying they're inside Vorchdorf. This must refer to erm, neighbooring communities? something else? Also, what does "well binded to traffic" mean? It doesn't come across in English. Maybe that the community is used to/inured to traffic? Mired in traffic? Well located for visiting? --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Fuhghettaboutit, thank you very much for your work. Vorchdorf is a "Gemeinde" (community or municipality) and that consists of small parts (no politically important), which are called "Ortschaften". It comes mainly from history. The "core" is Vorchdorf as "Ortschaft" itself and the whole community is called Vorchdorf and the surrounding areas in the region of Vorchdorf are the 28(???) parts (Ortschaften). I suspect the word district is not the correct one. "well binded to traffic" I mean, it is easily reached by car. well located, yes (for vistiting and for economy). Please ask again, if something is unclear. regards, --FrancescoA (talk) 12:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Maybe a "locality" or "hamlet" could better describe a "Ortschaft". --FrancescoA (talk) 13:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Ah, Okay thanks for the clarifications. Just so you know, traffic often has a negative connotation in English, depending on context, as in "dammit, I'm stuck in traffic!" I'll do some more later (at work right now).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I see, I did not distinguish between traffic (from my school english) from the "negative" meaning. For Laudach, I would be also graceful, only the worst things, I typed in. :) I do not want to oblige you, of course. ;) Cheers, and thanks for the feedback. --FrancescoA (talk) 21:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
For future reference, WP:TRANSLATE specializes in this. Paragon12321 22:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Creating a bio

how do i create a bioMARKZARRILLI (talk) 17:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Citing sources from software program

Hi! I am writing an article about an industry software. I would like to cite a line of text from the Help Manual that's currently under the Help menu in the Software itself. How do I write my reference? Any example? Thanks! --Hydrangea Blue (talk) 22:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Hydrangea Blue. I looked for an existing example and was unable to find one, but the important point about sourcing is to make your source as transparent as possible. Before starting, take a look to see whether the text of the subject page is available online and if so, include that in the reference (you can search Google for a quote from the relevant page to see if it exists). Here's what I'd suggest using a hypothetical source (I am assuming here that we are speaking of referencing using inline citations): <ref>[[Internet Explorer]], version 8 Beta, internal software help page: ''Managing Web Browser Add-Ons: Disable a Browser Add-on''. Digitized version at [ page/87631022] and retrieved on [[September 18]], [[2008]].</ref>. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The info is not available anywhere on the Internet. So I am going to make use of your suggestion and modify it. =) Thank you!--Hydrangea Blue (talk) 23:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Help with Google search results

Hello - I created a page on the Ambassador of the UAE Yousef Al Otaiba. At the beginning, it showed up on the top 10 of any google search of the Ambassador's name. Then, all of a sudden, it disappeared. Can someone tell me if it's something that I did with the page that made it not appear AT ALL in any Google search? If not, any idea what it is, or how to make it show up on Google searches of "Yousef Al Otaiba"? Thank you very much. Uaeinfo75 (talk) 23:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

When I just used Google to search for "Yousef Al Otaiba" (in quotation marks), the Wikipedia article came up second. It also came up second in a search without quotation marks. Might you have accidentally misspelled the name when searching? Deor (talk) 06:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I tried the Google search when I saw the post yesterday and the Wikipedia article was nowhere. Now I also get it. It's my experience that Google can be quite unpredictable and inconsistent but I don't have any inside knowledge about them (I'm still a fan who uses Google a lot). PrimeHunter (talk) 18:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

My article was deleted but I could not find it in the deletion log

Hi, I posted an article yesterday and I could well see it. However, today when I tried to search for it, it says the page does not exist. I was not able to find it in the deletion log. May I know what could be the cause of it? Kohkelyn (talk) 05:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

If you are talking about Citycare, it was because it was a copyright violation, see - Icewedge (talk) 06:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay noted. I apologise for that but I am the author for the article. There was no blatant copying from any site. Anyway, may I also check then how to make my piece displayable? Kohkelyn (talk) 06:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

If the original author of the article is you, and you can prove it, then it can be un-deleted by any administrator. I have a requested some admin help from the admin's noticeboard to that effect. They should be showing up shortly. - Icewedge (talk) 06:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Kohkelyn, what is your relationship to This is a user from whose talk page you have repeatedly deleted warnings and on which you pasted the entire text of the Citycare article (which looks like blatant spam, the reason it was deleted the second time). I ask because at this moment, it looks about 95% likely that you're a sockpuppet. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 06:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I had already deleted and reverted where appropriate and was about to suggest a connection to the accounts, but I was apparently beaten to the punch. This might be a WP:DUCK. Ice Cold Beer (talk) 06:40, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

(ec) This article has actually been deleted twicesix times, four times at Citycare, and twice at a userfied version I checked again, and unfortunately the latest version still reads very much like an advertisement, so it's unsuitable for restoration. Kohkelyn, if you want to try again, you're welcome, but please rewrite it from scratch, and make very sure you write strictly in a neutral, matter-of-fact, encyclopedic tone, and give ample references to independent reliable sources demonstrating this organisation is notable. It must have been the object of extensive, non-trivial discussion in multiple independent, reputable sources (such as news media, books, TV coverage) to qualify.(on seeing the extent of previous spamming: well, maybe it would be better if you just stopped. To Steven: the original account was apparently blocked as a username block, so continuing under a new account name wouldn't ipso facto be prohibited sockpuppeting. Fut.Perf. 06:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I stand corrected and ashamed. Your rebuke is well taken. Of course a user blocked for a username violation has every right to create a new account with another name. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 06:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
To be fair, if I'd been aware of just how persistent the spamming had previously been, I'd have worded this differently. Fut.Perf. 06:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Let me just figure how I can go about doing this better. I have no intention of spamming, blatant copying or anything near that. Thanks for the advice. Kohkelyn (talk) 06:53, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

As a first step read WP:Your first article. – ukexpat (talk) 18:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

win xp

what is mean by error performing inpage operation and how to solve this problem in win xp —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

You could try a Google search like [6]. Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

creating a new page

Hello, i would like to know how you can you make new pages for wikipeidia? IF you're able to.

    ~~Alexander Maden~~  —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:53, 19 September 2008 (UTC) 
You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 21:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


Hi guys,

I'm new in this wikipedia edit and I want to contribute. I added and expanded some articles in wikipedia. One of them is Llovizna (telenovela). I learned how to edit and add new articles in wikipedia. What I don't know is how to upload image and put correct "Permission", "Licensing" and entire process of uploading pictures. I wanted upload index image for Llovizna (telenovela) and I did but I got stuck up with this "Permission", "Licensing" process because I can't figure out how it works. I ask if somebody can write entire and I mean entire process of uploading images or pictures. For ex. How to put logos in indexes? What kind of "Permission", "Licensing" to put and process how to put it. Thanks in advance. Bye Milex (talk) 01:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page. SpinningSpark 08:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


When im editing something and there isnt already a image how do i add one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zac langsford (talkcontribs) 07:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

You can add an image if the image already exists either in Wikipedia or in Commons. For example, if the name of the image is "Example.jpg", then you can add a thumbnail image by typing [[Image:Example.jpg|thumb|Caption]]. Please read Wikipedia:Images for more detailed information, and other ways of adding images. If the image doesn't exist, you'll have to Upload it of course. But before uploading an image, please make sure that it doesn't violate the Image use policy. Cheers. Chamal Talk ± 08:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

my edit has been reverted


I've asked in the discussion tab if anyone had any objection to me removing the word 'bisexual' from a discription of a character in a movie (in the biog about kevin zegers) i expained why i thought it should go, left it for a while and eventually removed the word. the word was put back in almost immediatly but i see no explanation as to why. someone obviously disagreed with me but what do i do next? I'm happy just to leave it as it's no big deal but thats not the point of a wiki is it! do i take it out again? moan about it in the discussion section? the editer who took it out seems annoymous .. but im new so im not sure.. any advice? Bawdekin (talk) 14:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Neither your contributions nor revision history of the page show any edits by you to the article Kevin Zegers. The term 'bisexual' was removed from the article by an anonymous editor (or was it you, without logging in?), but has been reverted by Bankbryan. You can drop a message on his talk page and ask him why he reverted the edit if you like. Most probably he assumed it to be vandalism (Due to the high rate of vandalism on Wikipedia, users who are reverting vandalism can't read talk pages for clarifying each and every edit. If it seems to be vandalism at first glance, they revert it. So it's best to provide a clear reason for an edit like that in the edit summary). Anyway, my advice is to discuss this with him and clear out this problem. Cheers. Chamal Talk ± 15:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

i understand. yes it was me without logging on. i know now for the future! i'll drop him a line.Bawdekin (talk) 15:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

ive asked him but it's interesting to note that there seem to be many queries from other wikipedians about him editing and reverting edits without entering into discussion! if i hear nothing from him i assume it is ok for me to put back my edit, logging in of course this time!Bawdekin (talk) 15:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I see he has replied to you saying it's OK to remove bisexual so I'm marking this resolved. By the way, I haven't seen the film but a Google search easily found some reviews calling the character bisexual. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

How to edit the title of a redirect page

There is an article called Panther (Publisher) about the publishing company, Panther Books. It is not a good title for the page really but as there are quite a few links already to it I didn't think it a good idea to change the title, so I decided to create a redirect page called Panther Books instead. Inadvertantly, however, when I created the page I left the double quotes I'd used when doing the original search around title Panther Books so now there is a redirect page called "Panther Books" - not very useful! It works so well that I can't get to the actual redirect page to edit it and remove the double quotes. Could someone please help me do this. Could you please reply to me on my talk page. Thanks Idmc (talk) 02:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I have moved Panther (Publisher) to Panther Books and updated the redirects, the issue about the links is really no big deal because when someone clicks them they will just be redirected. - Icewedge (talk) 03:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
(e/c) First, if the other title is better, then it is a very good idea to move the article to the better name. When you move an article from the name to anotehr name a redirect for the old name is automatically created, so you needn't worry about the existing links to the name causing a problem; all of the links will still function (all double redirects need to be fixed however; a bot will sometimes do this for you). With regard to fixing the redirect name, you have a choice: you can either move the redirect to the name without the quotes, or you can ask for it to be deleted by tagging it with {{db-redirtypo}} and simply create the properly named redirect as a new page. The way to access a redirect page is to click on the link "redirected from [name]" at the top of an article after seacrhing for it using the redirected name. Note that once a redirect has two edits in its history, only an administrator can move it. You can request such moves at Wikipedia:Requested moves. I was just about to move the article to Panther Books, but another user, Icewedge, already did so. I have deleted the redirect page with quotes in the title. I think all your issues have been addressed but I wanted to provide an explanation. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


i'm looking for information on rainforest. what is the largest rainforest and what continet is ist located? (talk) 03:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Questions like this should really only be asked at the reference desk as this page is supposed to only be for questions about using Wikipedia. Anyways, The answer to your question is the Amazon Rainforest which is in South America. - Icewedge (talk) 04:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


I want to upload some information about a film or give a link how do I do this?Miratanna (talk) 12:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

If you have reliable sources just click 'edit this page' at the top of the article you'd like to edit and add the information where you see fit. Then cite your sources. Scottydude review 13:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Or if you are looking for help creating a new article, please read WP:YFA. – ukexpat (talk) 16:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Replace a logo uploaded by another contributor

I would like to replace a logo of an article. How do I do that? Please instruct. Thank you.--Hydrangea Blue (talk) 05:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello again, thanks for stopping back! There are a couple of ways to replace a company logo on that company's article. If you uploaded the original logo yourself, the easiest thing to do may be to upload a new version to the same file name. If you go to the image page you'll find a link near the bottom lableled "Upload a new version of this file". Click on that and follow the instructions. If, however, you didn't upload the original logo, or if you don't want to change the file for some other reason, you can just upload an image under a different file name (making sure to provide a good fair use arugument), then change the image file name in the article's infobox. If you don't find a valid use for the old file on the article, it will eventually be deleted since we don't keep copyrighted images unless they're in use on a fair use article. (what a tortured sentence!) Hope this answers your question. If I'm off the mark, stop back and clarify. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 07:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I followed your advice. I uploaded a new logo under different name, then changed the file name in the infobox. I thought I would see the old image in the history file, but the old image is gone! Oh well... Thanks again for helping out.--Hydrangea Blue (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

techanic of prepration energy drink like red bull

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. (talk) 06:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 07:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

linking to translations in other languages

Hi, I have written an article on a British West End actor and translated it into several languages (French and German so far, Spanish to come) uploading it to the German and French Wikipedias as well. I noticed that for the English article there is a box saying other languages on the left hand side referring to the French version. I was wondering why there is no reference to the German one and what I need to do to make that happen. Thanks for your help, Kimt2003 (talk) 07:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! What you are asking about are called InterWiki links. They are formatted thusly: [[language code:Title]]. The language code is the two letter ISO 639-1 code,. English is "en", German is "de", etc. The title is the title of the article on the other Wiki. They're usually placed in alphabetical order at the very bottom of articles, after the categories. For more detail, click InterWiki. Thank you very much for your contributions, interlanguage support is sorely needed on the project and your contributions are very valuable. Hope this answered your question thouroughly, if not stop back and ask again. Happy editing! —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 07:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Perfect! Thank you for your help :-) Kimt2003 (talk) 07:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

regarding technique of preparation of energy drink

I am starting a new company of energy drink. so i want to know the technique of processing and preparation of energy drinkReetika jain (talk) 07:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.—Elipongo (Talk contribs) 07:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Is there any tv proramme running on any tv chanel which is bassed on true stories of fatel accidents

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. (talk) 10:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

The best place for you to ask this is at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. This page is for getting help in how to edit Wikipedia. I can see from your IP address that you seem to be in India. Is it only TV programmes available in India that you're interested in? There was a British TV programme called 999 based on this concept (but strangely there's no Wikipedia article on it as far as I can see).-- (talk) 11:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Recreating an article

My article was deleted. Is it possible to recreate it?--Hydrangea Blue (talk) 19:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

In your case, it can be recreated if:
Notability status has changed: The subject matter may not have been notable at the time the page was initially deleted. For example, the article could be about a growing company. When an article was first created, the subject was not notable, but coverage has since expanded, thereby establishing notability.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 19:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

"The best way to address this concern [establish notability] is to reference published, third-party sources about the subject."

Can someone tell me how many references are required in an article? Thank you in advance! --Hydrangea Blue (talk) 19:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

It is also possible to re-create the article as a user subpage, ie a user sandbox where you can work on the article without fear of it being deleted. Please let me know if you need assistance with this. – ukexpat (talk) 19:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
There is no hard and fast rule about the number of sources. Take a look at WP:RS for further guidance. Note however that AutoQuotes was deleted as advertising not for lack of sources. There is a difference between an encyclopedic article and a press release/advertising piece, so you should probably take a look at WP:SPAM for guidance on that. – ukexpat (talk) 19:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
The reason I ask is because I get a notability tag on Foodservice Equipment Distributors Association page. And I wonder if there is anyway I can improve the article. On AutoQuotes, I didn't mean to "advertise" the software. I wrote about it because I notice almost every foodservice equipment and supplies manufacturers, dealers, operators and consultants in the US are utilizing the software. As far as I know (forgive me if I am wrong since I am a newbie), Wikipedia has very little info about the foodservice equipment and supplies industry. And I don't see stub template for this particular industry. As a newbie, I don't know if I should propose one. --Hydrangea Blue (talk) 19:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I put the notability tag on Foodservice Equipment Distributors Association because at the moment the only reference is to the organization's own website and self references are not reliable references per WP:RS - please read that guidance and WP:V for assistance with references and verifiability. With respect to AutoQuotes, you may not have intended it to be advertising but that's the way it read. If you want to re-create the article the best idea would be to do so as a user subpage - User:Hydrangea Blue/AutoQuotes for example - and have other editors review and comment before it is moved to the main article space. To propose a new stub, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. Hope this helps.  – ukexpat (talk) 20:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.--Hydrangea Blue (talk) 22:22, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

2 questions

Ok I have 2 questions.

1. In an article about someone, its says he spent 30 years as CEO of several businesss but doesn't mention the names of any of the businesses. THat is the first paragraph. The rest of the entire page discusses his life as an author of business related books.

How can I ask that additional source information be added to verify that he was in fact CEO of businesses and what business names are?

2. It looks like the subject of the biography has made numerous entries on his own biography. Isn't this a violation of guidelines?


forgot to sign hope I"m doing this right this time. please be nice to the newbie!

18:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bargal (talkcontribs)

If there are no references whatsoever, add the {{unreferenced}} template to the top of the article and, to be absolutely clear, post a comment on the article's talk page. As for the conflict of interest, there is no rule or guideline prohibiting someone from editing or creating their own bio, though it is discouraged. But if it complies with policies and guidelines it should be OK. However such bios will and should come under severe scrutiny for non-neutral POV, being spam/vanity pieces, appropriate references etc. – ukexpat (talk) 18:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
As Ukexpat says there is nothing preventing them from editing their own biograpy, however you may ask the user to read: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help, or if you direct me to their page, I may consider it Theterribletwins1111 (talk)

Ok thanks. I added a note on the TALK page. There are references on the page to his printed books and articles but nothing about the first 30 years of his business career. So I assume a "unreferenced" tag isn't approppriate? or...? Theterrible - can i send you the URL offline somehow? thanks Bargal (talk) 18:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The article appears to be John Renesch - I just checked that page, and it needs help - I stripped some marketspeak from the intro, and tagged it as needing sources and its tone evaluated. It's pretty shining in its description of the subject. Tony Fox (arf!) 18:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
In refrence to the chap editing his own biography, a note has been left on his talk page Here, also Bargal, if you want to guide me to a page, instead of sending me a link offline (I'm afraid I don't supplie my E-mail), you can use this: [["page name to link to"]] Much simpler :) Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 19:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Blimey, even in its much cleaned up state it still reads like vanity piece or PR bio! – ukexpat (talk) 19:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

A page has been deleted without significant discussion. Please put it back.

A page that I was contributing to from time-to-time was eliminated by supposed merging to another page without any significant discussion. The name of the article was “Scripture.” There is no trace of the article on the page to which to was supposedly merged – “Religious text.” How can one editor (or two) make the decision to do that? That editor should be reprimanded and the page should be returned. It seems that that particular editor has been causing editing trouble since discovering the page. What can be done about it? References were provided to support article commentary and progress was being made. I have noted that many pages on Wikipedia, even when there are disagreements, are retained so that they can be worked out. Is there a time frame for building articles that I don’t know about? How long do editors have to work on a page before some god-like editor makes a decision for merging or deleting a page because that editor doesn’t seem to like the topic. It borders on censorship. It certainly is a form of vandalism. — Ayapota (talk) 22:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Very little data is ever lost on WIkipedia. The last version of the page you are talking about is here. I have not looked at the merge discussion or outcome, but in general, you are free to merge whatever you want from the last version into religious text. No-one here is paid, so people often react a bit chilly to demands that something "has to be done". And of course, most things done by one editor can be undone by another (although that is not always the wisest course - see WP:3RR and Wikipedia:Edit war). --Stephan Schulz (talk) 23:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
If you feel that there's a strong case for a separate article entitled "Scripture" (as opposed to one entitled "Religious text" and beginning "Religious texts, also known as Sacred Scripture, are...") then there's no problem proposing and discussing the matter at Talk:Religious_text. If you feel unhappy with the outcome of the actions of the editor in question, feel free to approach them yourself on their talk page to discuss a solution. Karenjc 23:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

How do I upload my file?

How do I upload my file? I find the sustem exremely cumbersom, Is there now where a step by step guide to take met to the end? My contribution is there and I need it to appear on the encyclopedia now. Thanks in advance Wernerbooysen (talk) 07:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I see you created Wikipedia:User:wernerbooysen. You should have typed that into your userpage which is at User:Wernerbooysen (don't worry, I moved it there for you). Then to create the article, type it into .458 Express. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 09:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Actually, you need to move your user page to .458 Express. Note that Wikipedia deletes thousands of articles for failing to comply with WP:Notability. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I would advise that it not be moved in its present form - it will almost certainly be nominated for deletion for not being notable. Instead, I suggest that Wernerbooysen reads a few of our guidelines and policies first, and then works on the article in user space: WP:YFA, WP:N, WP:V, and WP:RS are good places to start. – ukexpat (talk) 13:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

New article not coming up in Google search

Hello. I just created a new article for William Seale today, Sept. 25, 2008. I can see it if I navigate to Wikipedia and search for it. However, it does not come up in a Google search. I have looked at the first 15 pages of the search results and could not find it. Is there something I should do to make it come up? Thank you. Whhapubl (talk) 14:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Google can have a lag of a couple of days. Give it a while before it "knows" this new article is there. Scottydude review 15:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

How to add a page when there is a page with the same name

I wanted to add some pages about japanese modern artists. I started with PINKMAN, but there is already an article for an American in a pink suit called: Pinkman. How can i add a page about PINKMAN the artist when there is already a page about a different person with the same "name"? Please reply to my talk if possible. Tigerjapan (talk) 15:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

  • First move the current content of Pink Man to Michael Maxfield (you'll have to tag Michael Maxfield for deletion "reason: Make way for move"). Then Write your article at the location Pink Man, don't forget to include a {{Otherusers|Michael Maxfield}} template at the very top of the page. If you want to write an article called Pinkman (not Pink Man), please let me know and I'll take you though that. If any of this dosn't make sense, don't hesitate to ask me Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 15:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
    • P.S., are you sure your artists real name is Pinkman? surely he must have a "real" name? Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 15:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
(ec) Actually, the existing article name is Pink Man. The article Pinkman is just a redirect so could be edited to be a new article. However I suggest you call your page Pinkman (artist). The Pinkman page should be turned into a disambiguation page with links to both articles.
Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. SpinningSpark 15:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Also note that copy and paste moves as suggested by Theterribletwins1111 are counter to guidelines and can lead to big problems for admins to fix to keep edit histories in the correct place. – ukexpat (talk) 15:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Before your note I had altered my comment to suggest a move instead, thanks Theterribletwins1111 (talk)

How to improve wikipedia articles page rank on google search engine,

Hi, I would like to know how I can improve my wikipedia articles's page rank on google search engine

Please help. Do i need to add any templates or meta tags? If you how do I do this? (talk) 17:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)cherry

You mean some sort of a google bomb? You might want to see PageRank to understand how it works and how it can be achieved.
If you can't do the above, then simply waiting will increase the ranking as more and more sites (mostly mirrors) link to that article.
Cheers mate!
Λuα (Operibus anteire) 17:29, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you know if I can add any meta tags/keywords to improve my wikipedia articles siterankings, currently google ranking is 0, is there anything preventing the article from being ranked? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

No, you can't directly add meta tags and keywords to Wikipedia articles. What page, specifically, are you interested in? If it's new, it might not have been indexed yet. Algebraist 18:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I am talking about the following page "Britannia Driving School article on wikipedia" (talk) 18:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)Cherry

Apologies in advance if this is bitey. If you are contributing articles just to get the page ranking up on Google then you are contributing for entirely the wrong reason -- that sounds like promotion, not creating an encyclopedia. This is not a popularity contest. – ukexpat (talk) 19:08, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Britannia Driving School has been indexed by Google, and is currently twenty-seventh in the results for the search term "Britannia Driving School". What's the problem? Algebraist 19:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Dont apologize. When I type in the wopds, sometimes the article shows up on google and sometimes it wont. So I wondering it has something to do with the ranking. I am not too familar with the concept so I was wondering why this was happening. (talk) 19:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)cherry

Template error

I was attempting to create a new template but somehow messed up the current template MountaineersRunningbacks which now has the page name FightingIrishrunningbacks and so it gives we an error when I try to access and correct it. (talk) 17:37, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I've reverted your edits to {{MountaineersRunningbacks}}. To create a template titled FightingIrishrunningbacks, click here. Algebraist 17:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Except that unregistered users can't create templates. You can create an account, or submit the template to Articles for creation. Someguy1221 (talk) 17:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. رياض الرفاعي (talk) 21:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:CUN. – ukexpat (talk) 21:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Don't bother, they will just tell you to do it manually as you have only 1 edit. Simply create a new account, and discontinue using your current one Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 09:24, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

difference between pseudocode and algoritm

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. (talk) 12:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

You didn't replace the instructional text with a question so it's hard to know what you are asking. We do, however, have encyclopedia articles on pseudocode and algorithms. Please note that knowledge questions shold be asked at an appropriate section of the reference desk. There are separate sections for computer-specific questions, mathematics-specific questions and for miscellaneous questions; this page is for questions about using Wikipedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

reporting an entry with bad information

I'm a newbie and am not sure how to report a false entry I found: From the entry "social science" someone has put in the ridiculous comment: "It comes from a person called Jim Castady 1800 years ago[citation needed]" It needs to be struck. Cathy Davidson (talk) 15:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the erroneous information. In the future, feel free to remove any obvious mis-information. That's the great thing about Wikipedia: anyone can edit! If you have any other questions, feel free to drop me a line on my talk page. Cheers! TNX-Man 15:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


Hello, my name is Harry. I am curious as to what the role of of House of Commons is? Could you please send me some information about the House's functions and features?

P.S. If you don't mind could give a detailed e-mail about what is happening in England? For example, construction sites, new government regulations and policies? I also want to know who Doug a former patient at Greystone Park Pyschiatric Hospital in the United States of America in the state of New Jersey? Please send me that person's e-mail address so we can chat!!!!! Please!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!

Sincerely, Harshad —Preceding unsigned comment added by 28harry (talkcontribs) 18:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about House of Commons. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Algebraist 19:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
For general UK stuff there is always Auntie Beeb or the British Government. – ukexpat (talk) 20:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Adobe User

I recently lost my Adobe Flash Player. And I was wondering if Adobe Flash Player was a free product. This doesnt involve uploading it on wikipedia. I just need to get at info that required these program in order to read. I'm just wondering if it causes money or not to upload the latest version. CHANLONG (talk) 10:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia - you should really have asked this at the Computing reference desk. However, I do happen to know that Adobe Flash Player is a free download. There's detailed information about compatibility etc in the Flash Player Support FAQ on the Adobe site, here. Karenjc 19:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Willis

Thomas Willis !!!

Thomas Willis was born on Aug 16th Thomas Willis (talk) 19:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Good for him. Does he have a question about using Wikipedia, which is what this page is for? Karenjc 19:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Merton Football Club

Merton FC, the oldest amateur soccer club in the Borough, is celebrating its 98th season. From humble origins in 1910, the club has grown steadily and is now firmly established with 7 regular senior teams playing on Saturdays. We also run a womens side and a youth Sunday side. It is notably a lot of people having a great deal of fun and making lots of friends.

Merton FC went straight into the Southern Amateur League, which started three years before the club. For the first 30 years of its life, the club shared a pitch with Merton Hockey Club on the John Innes Recreation Ground in Merton Park. A first and reserve team were fielded along with a third side known as the "Strollers" who played friendly games away from home. The "Strollers" were older, senior players who needed to be as good at drinking and socialising as they were at football to qualify for the team. This was, so as to enable them to obtain and keep the best available fixtures.

During the Second World War, Merton managed to field one regular home side. Any member who was in the services was always offered a game to make his stay at home more enjoyable. The club played some memorable games at this time, often against professional clubs. One of the regular fixtures was against the Scots Guards from Pirbright Barracks. On one special occasion, they turned up with their band, bagpipes, kilts and all, providing Merton with its biggest crowd for years.

The Southern Amateur League boasted some good teams until the 1940's with the likes of Cambridge Town and Ipswich. Merton always used to play these clubs away because they had enclosed ground and could charge admission fees. Merton could not afford to bring these clubs to London and pay their fares out of a crowd collection at half time, which would typically raise 50 bob (£2.50). On one visit we beat Ipswich 4-0 just before they turned professional.

In the 1946/7 season the first team were Division 1 Champions, clinching the title over Easter with two crucial games, beating Hastings 3-2 and Eastbourne 5-1, the resulting celebrations caused the coach journey back to London to take more than eight hours. The Amateur Football Alliance has provided some memorable games for Merton, among them an away game against Old Chesterfieldians, which we lost 5-4, the same Merton player scored all four goals but still got some stick on the way home for not scoring more.

Merton Council helped the club improve their ground and at the end of the 70's the club itself spent £3,500 on improvements with the labour provided by the players in their spare time.

Merton's other claim to fame is that Efan Ekoku once of Wimbledon FC played for the club in the season 1987/88, also representing the league and AFA side. Alan Pardew, who is a local lad, trained us for a couple of seasons before he became famous.

In the 1988/89 season, the 1st team won the division three title and the Surrey AFA Senior Cup.

1989 was a sad year as the club lost its President Bill Cox who died suddenly in December he had been with the club since 1932.

We have been quite successful in recent years. 2004/05 the 2nd team winning their respective league, 2005/06 the 1st and 5th teams winning their respective leagues and 6th team gaining promotion. 2006/07 the 4th team gained promotion. 2007/08 the 3rd team gained promotion. We now have 6 of our 7 teams in division 2.

One of the provisions of the SAL is that all players are to be provided with a hot meal and socialise after every game irrespective of which team they play in.

In 1990 the clubhouse at our spiritual home John Innes Recreation Ground was set ablaze by vandals, and was rebuilt in 1992 and opened by the Mayor of Merton.

In 1999 the club moved to its present home at Joseph Hood Recreation Ground, Martin Way, Morden where we can accommodate 3 home teams each week and provide better facilities.

Merton FC is a self funded amateur club run by hard working volunteers and are always looking for sponsors and new club members from the local community —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kernow7 (talkcontribs) 15:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Moving an article from your subpage to make it available through Wikipedia search

Hello! I am finished with editing an article. Now I want to "post" it where everyone who is interested can see it. How do I do that? (I tried to discern how to do this by searching the HELP information, but I could find the answer to this question). Thanks Jean Tisserand (talk) 19:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Go to the user subpage and, in the tabs on top of it, click on "move". Then type in the name you want for the article, fill in a summary, and click "move page". Bart133 t c @ How's my driving? 19:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
If you are the only contributor then you can also copy the source to a new page like James G. Stewart. In order to satisfy the GFDL you must move it if there are other contributors. Moving preserves the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
By the way, after you move it, you may want to edit your userpage. If you use the move button, it will replace your user page with a redirect to James G. Stewart. Just delete the redirect from your page, to avoid confusing other users. Bart133 t c @ How's my driving? 00:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Message to leave edit summary?

Is there a template message I can leave a user who never has left an edit summary? Mjpresson (talk) 14:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

You can try {{Editsummary}}. Cheers! TNX-Man 14:36, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Or {{Summary}} or {{Summary2}}. Scottydude review 14:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
(more) However, the template is pretty bare-bones. You may want to leave a note on the user's talk page instead. Hope this helps. TNX-Man 14:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
And there is also {{Uw-editsummary}} which has additional parameters. – ukexpat (talk) 16:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Smiley Faces

Smiley faces our just circles with eyes and mouths.They make all kinds of smiley faces.Some are so adorable.While I will write more soon=) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kittymitty51 (talkcontribs) 19:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a page for questions about Wikipedia and getting started. Is there something with which we can help you? TNX-Man 20:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Smiley and Wikipedia:Emoticons may interest you. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
As may {{ikon}}. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The author of Wikipedia (talk) 02:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

What is the author of Wikipedia?


If you want this information in order to cite Wikipedia then see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Otherwise see Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia and Wikipedia:About. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

inserting footnote in tables

I've searched but couldn't find the answer, so sorry in advance if this is posted somewhere. But, how do you insert footnote notations into a table entry, without messing up the table? I'm trying to add footnotes to this page Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball seasons

There are 2 seasons where other coaches coached briefly during Phog Allen's career and I wanted to put clickable footnotes for those years, but couldn't figure out how without messing up the entire table.

Thanks for any help!

Kmanblue (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I have added <references/> so inline references are displayed. See Wikipedia:Footnotes. What are you doing to mess up the table? Footnotes should work the same way inside and outside tables, but they may cause table cells to become larger. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

When I tried to add a footnote tag, the table would terminate at the tag and not show any of the data after my footnote tag. It looks like someone else just typed in "*" and a "**" without making them real clickable footnotes after my effort.

Kmanblue (talk) 21:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Based on your description I guess you didn't close the reference correctly. A reference starting with <ref> must end with </ref>. If it doesn't end like that then the software thinks the following text is part of the reference. This is not specific to tables. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks PrimeHunter! I don't know how I missed the </ref> not being there! But one last question is, how do you put references in the Notes section? The 2nd Note on that page needs a reference to the URL it came from. Again, I've searched in the Wikipedia:Footnotes page, but didn't see it before becoming utterly lost. Thanks for any help from anyone! Kmanblue (talk) 01:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

References created with <ref>...</ref> are automatically displayed whereever {{reflist}} or <references/> is placed. This will usually be below a manually created section heading called References or Notes. Currently Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball seasons#References contains {{Reflist}} while the Notes section uses another type of reference system. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:31, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I've found that I had to put the References section AFTER the Notes section in order for a reference in the Notes section to show up in the References section where {{reflist}} is located. Thanks for all the help! Kmanblue (talk) 02:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

The way it's formatted now is confusing - there are numbered notes and numbered references, using the same numbers. – ukexpat (talk) 04:08, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Changed the Notes to letters to avoid confusion with numbered references. Kmanblue (talk) 04:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I think you understand all the necessary inline citation coding now. However, for future reference, you might find {{Refref}} a good cheat sheet.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I should have said that {{reflist}} or <references/> only display references placed before that point. I changed the note notation on the page a little. [7] was bad formatting. Remember readers have different browser windows and line lengths. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the help and cleaning up my sloppy coding! Now I know what "*" on the left will do. ha ha Kmanblue (talk) 21:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

dispute, conflict of interest

I am not new to reading wikipedia but i am new to editing, correcting, and all your codes for the various actions. However, today i once again read your biography of Charles Gordone. i find that it was last modified on 14 august 2008. i find no user name but it is rather clearly written by susan kouyomjian who claims to be gordone's widow. this has been going on for ten years during which i have not made any efforts on the internet to resolve this dispute or conflict of interest or copyright law violation. i am holding back on writing a new entry or editing her rewrite of history. i would like to get assistance from an editor about how to breathe a little air into this entry which has numerous errors of fact, omissions which can be substantiated with letters and legal documents. i do not know her email and have NOT been in direct contact with her since my huusband's death in 1995. please help me. Jeanne warner-gordone (talk) 04:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia content should be purely factual, and appropriately referenced from verifiable published sources. It should not be a battleground for opposing parties to war over versions of some particular story. Wikipedia is not about proclaiming "the Truth", but about stating those facts that can be verified. Please accept my apologies if I have read this wrong, but this appears to concern a controversy between two people, both of whom regard themselves as a spouse bereaved by Mr Gordone's death, and who have different views about how the details of his life and work should be recounted. To start with, both those people have a potential conflict of interest and should be strongly discouraged from editing any Wikipedia article about him. Any material they do choose to add must be neutral, factual, and supported by reliable sources. Unpublished letters and legal documents would not normally be acceptable sources for Wikipedia, because they cannot be confirmed as genuine and consulted by a reader in the way that a published source can be.
We can have no idea whether any of the article's previous contributors is Ms Kouyomjian, although the article's talk page does tend to imply that she has been consulted about it. The article is partially sourced at present, but would be better with more sources, and with its existing sources converted to proper inline citations. If you feel unable to edit the article because of a conflict of interest, but wish to suggest corrections or improvements that are supported by reliable published sources, you can do so on the article's talk page. I'll leave you some useful links on your talk page to help you with the basics of editing and navigation here. Karenjc 12:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Please help with best next step

Recently there was false information in Wiki about our company. In efforts to correct this, we completely rewrote our entry, unaware that we were not upholding the spirit and etiquette of Wiki. Long story short, our entry is now flagged as conflict of interest (among other things) and we'd like to fix this in good faith. We're newbies to this process and would like to know the best next step would be. Revert to old page and make edits correct false information? Wait a few days? Post this as a discussion somewhere? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks DomRes (talk) 12:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

First of all, thank you for your proactive attitude. Many people go off on rants when they run against Wikipedia's rules and guidelines; your approach is greatly refreshing.
I would first point you to a few of Wikipedia's rules and guidelines covering this sort of situation. FAQ/Business is probably a good place to start, and remember that the most important principles to keep in mind here are to write with a Neutral point of view and to verify all the facts in an article. Since you are representing the company, it's going to be very difficult for you to edit neutrally, so my recommendation would be to leave the article alone. Wikipedia articles progress over time to an improved state (as users edit and improve them), as will yours. If you spot incorrect information in your article, leave a message on the article's talk page pointing it out, with a link to a source backing up your claim (verifiability again). Resist the urge to "improve" the article to make your company look better, stick to the hard facts (ideally you should leave the article completely alone, but...). If you spot a serious problem with the article, take a look at Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from enterprise) for some steps to take.
As for the article's current state, I would leave it as it is. Editors have access to the article history if they want to find information which you changed or removed.
I hope this answers your question - if not, feel free to ask for further clarification. — QuantumEleven 13:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I strongly suggest that you change your user name. As it is now, and based on your current edits, it is likely to be considered in breach of Wikipedia's user name policy as being a promotional user name, and liable to be blocked from editing. – ukexpat (talk) 16:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

What type of documents do receptionist use196.32.34.10 (talk) 13:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)'s

Please fill in the subject box above, then REPLACE ALL OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS with your question, and don't forget to sign by leaving the following four tildes (~'s) in place which automatically formats to your signature once you click "save page" below. (talk) 13:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

You didn't replace the instruction text with a question so the only thing we have to go on is the title you gave your post. First, please note that this page is for questions about using Wikipedia; knowledge questions can be asked at the reference desk. In any event, a receptionist's duties can vary wildly even in jobs in the same type of industry and would certainly be different across different fields. Some common documents may be typical such as maintaining a rolodex, often electronic today, some type of way to record messages such as a message pad and so on. For such a general job with such a variety of possible duties subject to field and the pecularities of the individual situation, it is impossible to be any more specific.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
And remember, if this is a homework question, we don't do your homework for you! – ukexpat (talk) 16:16, 30 September 2008 (UTC)