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how do i make an addition to a page?[edit]

Hi How do I make an addition to an existing page? thank you,

Click on 'edit this page' at the top of the page, and change the relevant part of the page. For help with markup, see the Editing help link below the edit box. --ais523 12:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi how do you make a page?

elective english[edit]

margin note taking method-Wikipedia


I have found a page that was about me, I am a figure skater and I would like to add my biography to it. I have added a picture and its still there but the biography is not. The biography is mine and written by myself and my publisist. When I logged in I got a message saying that I didn't list a source. I was woundering where I need to list the sourse?

The problem is that you need to source your material, so other people can check it. If you're published it, see Wikipedia:Citing sources; but, be aware that you might have a conflict of interest, and so might be better served by letting the users on the talk page adopt your biography for you -- since it's probably copyrighted, and so needs to be used, not duplicated. --Haemo


Can someone help with formatting the article, "Godfrey Mwakikagile"? Italicization of titles of books, journals, newspapers and magazines cited in the article; categorization, etc. - Dave1959 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave1959 (talkcontribs) 14:39, 24 July 2007

What to do with knowledge on a subject & potential conflict of interest?[edit]


I'm a long time reader of Wikipedia, but I'm getting more of an interest in helping edit.

I've got knowledge on some subjects that there could also be a perceived conflict of interest in.

My specific example is the page: Business Coach. I have extensive knowledge of the history and early founders of the industry, in addition to current resources. I also work in the industry, so there may be a conflict of interest. Is there a way I can edit this subject & add verifiable knowledge, without adding anything pertaining to me, or my business?

In the interest of neutrality, I can also include the opposite viewpoint that Business Coaching is seen as not-needed at best, and full of fakes at worst.

I'd like the thoughts from more experienced Wikifolks before I dive into this project.


Meg Meyer —Preceding unsigned comment added by MegMeyer (talkcontribs) 16:03, 27 July 2007

The COI guideline is precisely that, but should probably be a policy. Either way, it is trumped by the related policies of NPOV and OR. The gist of it is: avoid writing about yourself, your product, your company or employer, or close friends/relatives. Anything that is likely to risk infringing those two policies. Adrian M. H. 15:09, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, so, by the sounds of it, writing about my industry in general should be fine, then. I'll do more digging about style, etc., before I make any contributions / edits & maybe just cue another more experienced user to check my work, once I'm done. Thanks for clarifying for me! 17:07, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

As long as you're not biased about it. For example, saying "They should do this this and this and not that" would be biased, saying "They should do this this and this, but xx doesn't" would be biased", just filling in bits of information would be helpful though --Lie! 13:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

new catagories[edit]

sorry people out there, as if there is not enough to do. I work in a profession that likes to share knowledge and not re-invent the wheel, most of the time! So I have set up a template Template:User Museum Heritage worker so that hopefully us that work in this field can begin to notice each other, and who knows! But (and there was one coming) maybe I should have set the category up first. Can someone look and if possible tell me where I went wrong, so I can learn by putting it right, or the page I put in my request. With Thanks --Edmund Patrick 17:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

No, you did it the right way around; you create a category by using it and then following the red link. I added a description for you, which you can change to whatever you think works best. Adrian M. H. 18:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Another thought: You might want to get it into a parent category, such as Wikipedians by profession. Just add [[Category:Wikipedians by profession]] to your new category. And you may want to rename it to match the popular naming convention for user cats. Adrian M. H. 18:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks, did the simple first but seem to have created a page that has placed a link to itself in under my original userbox, (obviously not got the sandbox sorted quite yet), whilst trying to add the professions category. The naming I thought I had sorted but will recheck later this week, at the same time try to get the link and new page removed. --Edmund Patrick 19:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I have fixed the name to Category:Wikipedian heritage museum workers and added it into Category:Wikipedians by profession. Make sure that you begin to populate the category fairly promptly to avoid deletion. Adrian M. H. 20:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I have tidied up the mess as much as I can. When i added box to my user page it created all loads of a mess with my user name appearing alongside it. As soon as I removed the categories it was fine!? Maybe its a sign. --Edmund Patrick 12:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
It should be easy enough to get the cat entry to work (lots of UBXs use it), so have another look at how the others do it in case you missed something (which is easily done when making templates). Adrian M. H. 16:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
sorted finally, many thanks for your support, now the tricky bit, does anyone want it..--Edmund Patrick 20:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Reset indent: I'm sure it will get used more often over time. If there was a WikiProject for Museum articles, you could mention it on its talk page, but I haven't been able to find such a project. Adrian M. H. 21:29, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Fancy Signatures[edit]

Just wondering how to make a bright and colourful signature? User talk:Muffin Man 23 20:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

On the upperright, click "my preferences", then click "Raw sig" and you can edit your sig in there. Keep in mind that colorful signatures are usually long, and sigs that are very long tend to upset people. I personally recommend you use a simple '''[[User:Example|Example]]'''<sup>''[[User talk:Example|(Talk)]''</sup> for your signature if you don't know what to make. --Lie! 11:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Cross reference /footnote?[edit]

This week on BBC 7 audio: Brief history of Ireland. a brief mention was made that at the end of the US civil war the soldiers of Irish nationality, unable to return to Ireland to fight for Independence from England in 1860's. not being able to find passage with armaments, there was a lashing out at the closest Crown property to them, Canada . one fort was seized, but having no supply line, that effort was caused to be abandoned.

This is first hearing of this fact, and I, not having access to other history archives wish to present this to the Wiki Community for further clarification and discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:08, 29 July 2007

I'm not sure what your question actually is.... Adrian M. H. 20:13, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's "I heard this cool fact on the radio the other day, how do I reference this in Wikipedia, please?" -Malkinann 21:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

How can I get a review for an edit I made?[edit]

I've just made my first complete overhaul of an article (Dieselboy), and I want to make sure I didn't do anything that's really out of sync with guidelines. How can I get someone more experienced to take a look? Deptstoremook 16:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

For major revisions with the prospect of further work and targets (GA, etc.) go to RFF. For more minor edits that do not fit at RFF, EA/R is the best place. Adrian M. H. 16:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


How do I edit a category? I am on Music Schools in the Republic of Ireland and I want to edit the Music Schools category i.e. add schools to the list, as opposed to the Universities and Colleges category. Tildas aren't working so maye you could answer me on my talk page Artydiana —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artydiana (talkcontribs) 20:15, 30 July 2007

You don't, unless you wish to change the category's textual description or other header content. Article are categorised by placing category entries at the bottom. Adrian M. H. 19:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

New entry[edit]

How long does it take for you to publish a new entry? 23:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

About as long as it takes to click the Save button. Adrian M. H. 00:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
If you register an account, you can write an article, save it, and it will appear instantly. However, if you have listed an article to be created at WP:AFC, then you will have to wait for a willing contributor to manually create the article him/herself. ugen64 05:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I already have an account. I have crated another one. How do i delete the extra account which ever it might be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafathmuneer (talkcontribs)

You cannot delete Wikipedia accounts --Longing.... 08:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Multiple references[edit]

How do I write my references so that the small a,b etc. comes up instead of just repeating the same reference over and over in the reference list. You can see my problem at the site I'm working on entitled Makuleke.

Profberger 12:42, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

When writing references, you should give each a name in the reference take, e.g. <ref name="Citation1">URL</ref>. Each time you want to cite the same reference, then just use the same reference name. Hydrostatics 12:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
An important fact that was omitted by the previous respondent is that you must self-close the named references upon subsequent uses: <ref name="Citation1"/> Adrian M. H. 13:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok I'm a degreed dunce! I have tried a number of permutations of the above and I either delete my refs - end up with refs that don't make sense or have my entire reference list behind each ref! Could someone take these two refs and put them the format of a repeated reference and I'll play the kindergarten student and copy the smarter kid sitting next to me!



Thanks in advance!

Profberger 17:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It is very simple to do, but I went ahead and tidied the refs for you. Because you are using what appear to be self-published sources (judging by your user name), it is important that you read this section of Verifiability. That policy is very important. Adrian M. H. 19:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Got it - I think that due to the fact that I own all copyright to my own work and did this under a referencable book its ok but please discuss in greater detail on my talk page if you disagree. I'm just trying to get as much content onto wiki as I can...

Profberger 19:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

how do i edit title of article i have written[edit]

how do i edit title of article i have written —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamrod (talkcontribs) 13:52, 31 July 2007

You technically can't rename an article. What you can do however is move an article that you have already written to another place under a new name, effectively giving it a new name. At the top, where all the tabs are (e.g. Article ... Discussion) one of them says "Move" - if you click that it will ask you for a new name and a reason for moving. Just put in what you want to rename it to and you're done! It will also set up a redirect page on the old article, so if anyone goes to that page, not realising it's been moved, it will be redirected to the new article.
Best of luck! Hydrostatics 12:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

A layout format for Videogame articles?[edit]

Hi, as an inexperienced editor I would like to get started editing various articles in relation to video-games and possibly in the future other articles in other categories that need work. My question; Is there currently an accepted layout for video-game articles that I can use as a reference for what to include within them as well as a structure that I may use or edit around that I could follow? I have been attempting to look at as a guide the featured article on Final Fantasy VII however I think it's exceedingly difficult though not impossible, especially for older, less critically acclaimed games to follow that format. Apologies in advance if this question's in the wrong place! RBlowes 17:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

99% of articles will look great with the following formula: six-nine line intro, info box at the right, informative image in the image box, rest of article, a See also section to sequels, spinoffs, genres, or EXTREMELY similar games (for example, Wolfenstein should not link to Doom, Armagetron should however link to other Lightcycle games) Remember that more content doesn't make an article better. For example, compare this revision of Perfect World to this article I haven't heard of until just now, and tell me which one you think I'd call a better article --Longing.... 21:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

The Controllers (Punk)[edit]

In other articles, "The Controllers (Punk)" shows up in red when it should be blue. Also I cannot find my article with a search engine. I WANT OUR FANS TO BE ABLE TO FIND US. WE HAVE A DISTINCT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. Sincerely, DOA Dan Davis of the Controllers —Preceding unsigned comment added by DOA Dan (talkcontribs)

Hi there. It's showing up red because it's been spelled in all caps: it's at THE CONTROLLERS (PUNK) - but should be moved to The Controllers (band) per our regular naming conventions. It may not be showing up in search engines yet due to database issues or something else - I'm not savvy enough to say what. The article itself needs a lot of help to meet our requirements; I'm going to mark it with some templates to help draw more experienced editors in to aid in making it fit under the guidelines. One thing you can do, as the creator, is point out (probably on the article talk page is best) some good online sources that can be used to verify the article. It looks like the band meets music guidelines but it needs to be edited into an encyclopedic style and sources added. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

sending images to wikimedia commons[edit]

Is there a simple way to send images from Wikipedia English to Wikimedia commons without uploading the original files one at a time? I had added about 60 images to Wikipedia before someone told me that other language users can't access them.

Profberger 07:42, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I believe you will need to upload them all again, then tag the local copies for deletion. I cannot offer any more detail, so I suggest that you ask at VPA or perhaps a talk page of one of the image help pages. Adrian M. H. 14:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Aha I think I have seen a loophole! If I clearly state that I cede these images to wikipediacommons then they may be sent by effectivley any user - am I right? - see my

male lion face

and the message attached for transefering to wikicommons. I certainly do transfer the rights on all my images but do I have to do each one? I know I'm being a pedantic a**hole but I'd like to see the system work more smoothly....

19:05, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

New article "help"[edit]

This is much more of a labarath than I anticipated. I'm pretty fluent in HTML, but I'm having difficulty understanding the Wikipedia way. Things like the "Sandbox" also confuse me further. I'm of above above average intelligence and think would be great to add some things that I find no reference to, but this is hard!

Is there anyone who could hold my hand and maybe tutor me a little until I get the feel?

Fishing464 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fishing (talkcontribs) 46415:32, 1 August 2007

Read WP:FIRST. It will give a good idea of how to actually write the article. Also, Wikipedia does not use HTML. We use what's called Wikitext. I highly recommend you read that article, as well as the ones it links to, as it will give you a good idea of what do to. Wikitext is designed to be an easy to learn method of formatting text, as well as being able to be read and look just fine in it's plaintext version. I also highly recommend This Index of good things to know to any new users. If you need any help, feel free to stop by my talk page (it's in my signature and leave a comment) --Longing.... 14:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

how to create a page[edit]

how to create a page

WP:FIRST --Longing.... 18:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Global Gaming Expo Asia (G2E Asia)[edit]

Global Gaming Expo Asia (G2E Asia) is the international gaming exhibition and conference dedicated for the Asian gaming markets.

Organized annually by Reed Exhibitions and the American Gaming Association, G2E Asia made its debut in June 2007.

Global Gaming Expo Asia (G2E Asia) official site (

RE: the Paul Liberman information[edit]

What is written there is ambiguous. I do not think Paul himself was the source of that information. The MJAA has quite a liberal viewpoint on many topics. The UMJC is quite conservative and some of them venture into orthodoxy. Does it make sense that a very well known leader of a liberal messianic movement would be a co-founder of a conservation movement? Although it is true, some Rabbi's of the two movements will interchangeably speak as guests at conferences, it is not likely that an executive of MJAA (which is true) founded their competition (probably not true). Their business practices and teachings can be quite different.

To the best of my recollection it was the Segals who were heading the Joseph Project in Israel. Paul was the CEO of the Jerusalem Counsel II organization that sought out legal rights for messianics in Israel. Rumor has it he spent much time in the Israeli courts.

You want to bring this up on the "Discussion" page of the article, e.g. this Discussion page re Paul Liberman. That's where people are interested in the actual subject matter and the correctness and apropriateness of the material. Here at the New Contributor's Help page we're interested in answering questions about the mechanics of contributing.Pete St.John 15:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Executive Producer[edit]

I understand that Darren Bagert, the two-time TONY Award-winning producer, has been hired in the past to Executive Producer other shows in NYC and elsewhere. Does anyone have contact information for him or his website? Much appreciated.

This board is for help on the basics of Wikipedia, not a general chat page. That said, I recommend taking this to perhaps and check out their culture or general forum. BQZip01 talk 06:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixing missing images in articles[edit]

I found an article with a thumbnail of a now-gone file. What do I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitalgadget (talkcontribs) 18:09, 2 August 2007

If you know of no alternative, just remove the wiki syntax that displayed the image. Adrian M. H. 17:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I did. I wish there was something more I could do. --Digitalgadget 17:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

need to delete page[edit]

I am a new contributor. I wanted to change the title of my page, and instead of moving it (which I didn't know I could do) I just made a new page with the same information. I'd like to delete "184th Wing" and keep "184th Wing Kansas Air National Guard." Can someone help me do this? 184jayhawks 17:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

You cannot delete it, only administrators can but you should move it not create a new one with the exact title. 17:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I read something about "Speedy deletion" tags. --DigitalGadget 17:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes per the WP:CSD, 17:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I Can't Find the Article I was Prepping[edit]

Hi. I started working on an article about bowler Buzz Fazio. I had to stop momentarily so I saved the work, or so I thought, by clicking the "Save" button on that page. Now I'm back but I can't find my work. Can you help? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Information Outlet (talkcontribs) 18:58, 2 August 2007

Did you create it? If so it must have been deleted because your only contribution is to here, what was the article called? 17:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Buzz Fazio - There you go. Please also consider reading WP:BIO and WP:RS. PeaceNT 03:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Tables: Formulas?[edit]

Are the Tables in Wikipedia able to process mathematical formulas?

In other words, if I want the sum of cells A1+A2 to appear in cell A3, can I do it?
In calculating the populations of countries, it would sure be nice to be able to have it add all the numbers in the column and sum them up in a total box.

Does Wikipedia already have this feature? If so, where can I find the formulas that work in cells? I've been looking all afternoon trying to find information but without success.

(TS Brumwell 21:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC))

Nothing beyond what you will find in Magic words and Parser functions. Adrian M. H. 21:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
The second one, incidentally, can get complex to the point of being annoying. Adrian M. H. 21:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

unknown band using wiki for advertising[edit]

Hi, I brought up a local band here in Portland that has a wiki page that is only used for advertising. I spotted it like 6 months ago and tried to edit it, but the mods put it back. I am wondering how this band can get away with having a wiki site when they are not popular, unknown, unsigned and have incorrect info throughout their page. It is basically a Myspace site wihtout the friends. the band name is " Still Pending " if anyone would care to ive me some info. If they are OK having a page, can I create a page for a few better known bands that actually DO have major endorsements and product sponsors and do actually get on TV a lot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxpowersimpson (talkcontribs)

Well, it appears that Still Pending might be unsigned, but it's also got quite a few citations and appears to have been on Cartoon Network as well as involved in some interesting programs. The article was deleted through AFD but overturned at Deletion Review not long afterwards due to new information being provided. If you feel it should be deleted, you can always try another Articles for Deletion discussion. If there are problems with the article, then discuss them on the talk page if your changes are reverted. As for adding other bands, if you feel they meet the music guidelines, especially with regards to having multiple, non-trivial reliable sources indicating why they're notable, then go for it. Tony Fox (arf!) 03:51, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Articles with limited sources[edit]

I guess you could say I'm a fan of the underdog and a huge contributor to putting information online about rising stars... or neglected ones! Sometimes though, the problem is that I don't have an extensive range of sources to use. While I do have few of them (including and for the most part) I'm worried that only citing two websites in an article (or more, depending) will promote its proposal for deletion. Are and considered reliable sources for Wikipedia? I know that I've tried submitting information to both these sites and had my contribution rejected because my source was not reliable enough (the reason was that it was not an official site, etc.) which gives me the impression that the information found on these websites are completely, or as close as can be, to accurate. In less words, are and good enough sources for information on new actors, musicians and models? I'm mad about adding the information I can find (given that it is reliable) to profiles of upcoming names, and Wikipedia is a great way to get the information known... I just don't want to encounter 'vandalism' deletions or have my articles proposed for deletion. Thankyou!

--Rosario 01:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Please see our reliable source policy, specifically Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Examples#Use of electronic or online sources. PeaceNT 03:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
See WT:RS: The IMDB is not considered to be a reliable source at all. The discussion there outlines why. Adrian M. H. 09:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Patti Smith Early Years[edit]

I have a different account of Patti Smith that I would like to post. How do I do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Puluki (talkcontribs)

Well, the Patti Smith article is right there; if you have information that would be of use in that article, then as long as it's verifiable and properly sourced, you may be able to insert it there. If it's something that might be contentious, though, discuss it on the talk page of that article, and see what other editors think. Tony Fox (arf!) 03:57, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Removing biased and personal views from a page[edit]

Hi, I want to edit the page on Brain Gym. As it stands, the page has a large part of the content that reflects the personal antagonistic and biased view of a particular person who is conducting what amounts to a vendetta against the Brain Gym technique, its practitioners and the many people who have written to him to say he is wrong!

I have tried to edit out the middle paragraph (included below to show the situation) so that this personal view is removed and the content becomes more balanced. However, the Wikipedia system has not allowed me to do this.

Paragraph that I would like to remove:- Brain Gym has been particularly criticized by Ben Goldacre of The Guardian's Bad Science pages. He found no supporting evidence for the assertions put forward by Brain Gym proponents in any of the main public research databases.[2] Upon learning that the program was used at hundreds of UK state schools, he called it a "vast empire of pseudoscience" and went on to dissect parts of their teaching materials, refuting for instance claims that rubbing the chest would stimulate the carotid arteries, that "[p]rocessed foods do not contain water", or that liquids other than water "are processed in the body as food, and do not serve the body's water needs."[3] Many teachers responded by writing letters in support of Brain Gym. Goldacre reiterated his point that exercises and breaks were good for students, and that he was merely attacking "the stupid underlying science of Brain Gym".[4] In a separate column, Philip Beadle sided with him, adding that Goldacre's "argument is with what Dr Barry Beyerstein, a professor of psychology at Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, Canada, describes as 'commercial ventures promoted by hucksters who mislead consumers into thinking that their products are sound applications of scientific knowledge'." [5]

Please advise me.

thanks Braingymer Braingymer 15:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's a well sourced entry. You should probably not remove it. Discuss it on the article's talk page --L-- 15:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

More on Brain Gym entry[edit]

A respondant replied to my recent post saying that I should not remove a biased, personal view, because the paragraph was well sourced.

Just because an article is well-sourced does not mean that the sourcing accurately relates to the topic of the article!

For example, look at the last sentance of this paragraph.

"In a separate column, Philip Beadle sided with him, adding that Goldacre's "argument is with what Dr Barry Beyerstein, a professor of psychology at Simon Fraser University in Burnaby, Canada, describes as 'commercial ventures promoted by hucksters who mislead consumers into thinking that their products are sound applications of scientific knowledge'." [5]"

The included quote about hucksters was NOT about Brain Gym. It is very biased to include this incorrect, implied connection between hucksters who mislead consumers and Brain Gym, which was published elsewhere without foundation, just on the grounds that it was published so must be included!

I'd appreciate more advice, please!

Braingymer 15:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

As L suggested, it's best to take discussion of major edits to the talk page of the article itself; you'll find discussion ongoing there regarding your edits. Tony Fox (arf!) 15:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

please help![edit]

PLEASE HELP! I cannot understand the instructions. There's a file I scanned of a Ballantine promotional marker (ballantine_marker0001.jpg) that I'm trying to upload AND link to the Ballantine page ( It seems to upload, but is not visibly connected to that page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chameleonesta (talkcontribs) 11:41, 4 August 2007

It seems the image has been deleted by Quadell. The rationale provided for this was "Image with unknown source or unknown copyright status which has been tagged as unknown for more than 7 days (CSD I4). Speedy concern: Image with unknown source or unknown copyright status which has been tagged as unknown for more than 7 days (CSD I4)."
Would that be the reason why it won't show? Onnaghar ( 14:10, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


i am attemping to edit a page alana and on the right hand side Her name appers in white and i dont know hor to get the red rectangle block to appers

please help me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Optimus omega supreme (talkcontribs) 21:31, 4 August 2007

It's infobox formatting; it's supposed to be that way. :-) « ANIMUM » 21:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Also because the 'Autobot Friend' should be Autobot for it to automatically go red. :) -- Stwalkerster talk 21:37, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

thank you both —Preceding unsigned comment added by Optimus omega supreme (talkcontribs) 21:39, 4 August 2007


on most pages theere is a section for content in the top left of the article i think i need to add it to remove the things wrong with my article


Hi! for us to help you you will need to tell us which article you are refering to. :-) Stwalkerster talk 22:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

same name, two different persons[edit]

What if I want to write an article on a person but there is another article on another person with the same name ?

al_forcier —Preceding unsigned comment added by Al forcier (talkcontribs) 14:56, 5 August 2007

Hi! you can do something like this: an article on John Smith exists, and he is a singer. However, you want to write about John Smith the actor. Create the article named John Smith (actor), and place on John Smith the following:

:''This article is about the singer; for the actor, see [[John Smith (actor)]].''

I hope this helps. :-) Stwalkerster talk 15:01, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

This and related issues are covered in NC, DAB and MOSDAB. Adrian M. H. 15:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Song lyrics[edit]

I'm looking for lyrics for a Rush song, can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2007

As it says at the top, this page is for questions about editing WP. Try the Ref Desk instead. Adrian M. H. 20:08, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Formatting Question[edit]


I recently uploaded an image to Wikipedia - could you please let me know how to format text to wrap around an image?

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natalya178 (talkcontribs) 17:45, 6 August 2007

For all your imaging needs, I recommend:
BQZip01 talk 17:55, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
And IUP and ICT. Very important, those. Adrian M. H. 18:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

making a new entry[edit]

I have an entry about a musician that i would like to put on your do i do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twerpuser (talkcontribs) 20:17, 6 August 2007

First of all, you should check through some of the very important and useful links that are shortly to appear on your talk page. Then if you think that this subject is notable enough and verifiable enough, you can have a go at writing it. As always, I strongly recommend working offline or in a user sub-page before uploading and seeing your effort deleted because it was not up to scratch. Message me if I can help. Adrian M. H. 20:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

John Roy Lynch[edit]

Information about John Roy Lynch — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Ref desk
I would normally phrase that more politely, but you didn't.... Adrian M. H. 20:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Peacock terms[edit]

Dear Editors,

I have noticed the "peacock terms" of my future school at International Institute for Management Development and tried my best to remove all such terms. However, it still shows "The quality of this article or section may be compromised by "peacock terms". You can help Wikipedia by removing peacock terms.". Would you please kindly enlighten me what's wrong with the revised article now?

Thank you & wish you a nice day!

Shalom —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalomtang (talkcontribs) 08:40, 7 August 2007

If the problem is fixed (you must apply neutral unbiased editorial judgment) then remove the tag. Adrian M. H. 10:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixing numbers blending into images[edit]

How do I fix numbers in the reference list that blend into an image - see Rinkhals (Hemachatus haemachatus)

Profberger 17:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

It's a problem with numbered lists and 'floated' images. One solution is to make sure that the image that overlaps that section is floated to the right, rather than the left; if this would be inappropriate on the article, you could write {{-}} just before the references section to move it below the image, but this opens up a lot of space in the article (which can be fixed by writing more text in the article so that the space is filled). Hope that helps! --ais523 17:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! That did the trick!

Profberger 17:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

article name[edit]

Is there a part in the editing process where I get to name my article, or will it just appear to be the username? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cqgmarcomm (talkcontribs) 17:06, 7 August 2007

The name of the article is the name of the page. If you make a link to [[foobarbaz]] (any new title; "foobarbaz" is supposed to be a random example) and then click on that link, if the page does not already exist, it will be created (named "foobarbaz") and you will be editting it.Pete St.John 17:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
please be sure to read WP:OWN – it will not be "your" article. Adrian M. H. 17:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Semi Protected Pages[edit]

How can I submit information that has pertinence to a to a semi-protected page for posting evaluation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fascinated (talkcontribs) 17:51, 7 August 2007

Easy, actually. Wait 96 hours. You'll see what I mean once that time has elapsed. Adrian M. H. 17:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
If you want to add it sooner than that, you could also try suggesting it on the talk page of the article, and hopefully someone else would be able to add it for you. Tra (Talk) 18:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

My entry on sexual identity therapy[edit]

My entry on sexual identity therapy was deleted as an advertisement. This is an inappropriate deletion. I am having trouble figuring out how to communicate with Phil Sandifer who deleted it to learn how to reintroduce this content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wthrockmorton (talkcontribs) 18:04, 7 August 2007

In my experience, SDs are rarely inappropriate; but a usually result of a misunderstanding of content guidelines. Please view the links on your talk page to understand more about content guidelines and the deletion process. Adrian M. H. 18:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Paragraph added to History of numerical approximations of pi, Miscellaneous formulae[edit]

19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)David W. Hoffman 19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Earlier today I posted a paragraph adding to the article on History of numerical approximations of pi under the subheading of Miscellaneous formulae. My paragraph presented and discussed a formula I discovered a few years ago, which is quite elegant and which my research has determined to be previously unknown. I spent several hours learning how to use the protocol for mathematical formulas. My paragraph was almost half a page and contained three formulas. I believe it was non-controversial, as anyone could try the formulas for themselves to determine that they do indeed yield the first ten digits of pi (a number of other formuas appear in this article, some less accurate than mine, some more accurateDavid W. Hoffman 19:39, 7 August 2007 (UTC). Shortly after posting the article I looked it up and found it, but now a few hours later my contribution seems to have disappeared. I did append my user name as requested. My questions are, did I do something wrong, how do I find out what happened to it, and why was it deleted?

You seem to have created a bit of a mess here. When you sign comments on talk pages and project pages, you need to place four tildes (or three or five for certain types of formatting) at the end of the comment. Or use the sig button in the edit toolbar. You cannot sign article edits, unless you entered four tildes into the article!!! In the absence of a wikilink, I will have to go away and check your contribs to find out exactly which article you edited. Adrian M. H. 20:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, the summary seen in this diff explains it clearly. Original research. Material must be verifiable by reference to independent sources, preferably with non-trivial coverage of the subject, that can be deemed to be reliable. Whether your formulae were verifiable by testing is irrelevant because we cannot accept original research in any form. That and verifiability are content policies, and very important ones at that. Sorry if this system, or the revert, seems harsh, but this is the process that we have to follow. Edits that do not meet relevant guidelines are likely to be re-edited. Adrian M. H. 21:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
It's compuationally ineffective to use a formula with thousand-digit numbers to compute a 9 digit number; better to just write down the 9 digits, than write down the thousand digits of his formula (I don't mean "thousand" literally, I don't care how many digits are in a Google). The work is not publishable, IMO, as original mathematics, even in math journals. One could invent endlessly many such formulae. Pete St.John 17:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

remove ip address[edit]

Hi: I just edited my own page and realized that I had not logged in (I screwed up), and therefore my ip address appeared in history. Due to vandalism vulnerability, how do I have that number removed? Please advise —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nancycalef (talkcontribs) 18:48, 8 August 2007

You cannot. Revision history is far too important to be subject to the oversight method because of an IP. Thousands of regular contributors do so anonymously. Oversight is reserved for the removal of things like sensitive or damaging personal information, which does not include an IP. Adrian M. H. 19:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

No edit button on page[edit]

Hello, There is no way to edit this page . Someone has removed a link to our charity website so I'd like to add it please. Thanks Liz Carnell Bullying Online —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinnermoney (talkcontribs) 13:19, 9 August 2007

The page is semi-protected which means no one with an unregistered account or an account newer than 5 days old can edit. The external links section is already extremely long and, more than likely, fails to meet Wikipedia policy regarding external links. Lara♥Love 13:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
That list should really be cut by about 80%, I would say. Only the most appropriate, most relevant, and best quality. Adrian M. H. 13:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Related: WP:AN/I#LinkSPAM binge by Dinnermoney. And please remember that Wikipedia is under no obligation to support a certain charity. It is an encyclopedia. x42bn6 Talk Mess 17:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
If I remember rightly Bullying is semi-protected because there were so many downright silly edits appearing (of the "fred has a big nose" school of editing). But the external links really are out of control as well. The trouble with an article like Bullying is that there are a) A lot of people with personal websites who think they should be included (most should not) and b) A lot of really good websites that would be worthy of inclusion if only there were not SO MANY of them. The only answer is to raise the bar on inclusion very high indeed, limiting it to National, Government sites and totally unique information. --Zeraeph 16:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding pages[edit]


I notice that you have some pages that are not editable like How do I get something added to this?

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:00, 9 August 2007

If you want to list a page in a category, add [[Category:Online dating]] to the bottom of the page. Hut 8.5 19:10, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
There may be a bit more to it than that, though, because you often need to sort them. Help:Category should cover it. The old fashioned way (with which I see nothing wrong, actually) is [[Category:Online dating|Name of article as it should be alphabetised]], such as Smith, John. It doesn't affect the title as it appears in the category, but it will be under S rather than J. The newer method is {{DEFAULTSORT}}, which is actually less a template and more a magic word. Adrian M. H. 17:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Screwing up redirects[edit]

Hi guys. In trying to be helpful, I broke the Powell Memo set of pages. I have it mostly fixed except that now Powell_memo is a page that needs to be deleted due to a double redirect issue. Can someone look at Powell Memo, Powell memo, Powell_Manifesto, and Powell_Memorandum and toss some help? I really think I've got it so if you just delete Powell memo everything works. And sorry... Beutelmd 20:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I've gone through them; they should be OK now. Tra (Talk) 21:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

speedy deletion unfair![edit]

I've been trying to get the article I wrote for Pike County Arts & Crafts into Wikipedia but just received an alert that it is under attack by a "speedy deletion." It's not blatant self-advertising (I don't think -- it's a nonprofit award-winning arts organization). Is it that I had it listed by user name Elizabethcmurphy -- who I am, incompetent as I may be? I'm a newbie and sorry for not understanding how to submit the new article. Thanks for your help. Elizabeth

Hello Elizabeth. A few things:
  • Please sign your comments by ending them with four tildes (~~~~). This will automatically sign them with your username and a timestamp.
  • Your user page isn't the place for what's ostensibly an article. (See WP:USER for some words on what should go there.) That's probably why it was deleted; people who spam Wikipedia often post such things on their user space as a sort of last resort. However, if you created (for instance) your own personal sandbox, it's unlikely content will get deleted from there.
  • As an article, Pike County Arts & Crafts needs some work. It doesn't cite any sources at all, and the "Current Work" section is particularly unencyclopedic in tone.
  • Please do note that if one of your articles does get speedily deleted, you can usually ask an administrator to userfy it -- that is, restore the deleted text to a subpage of your user space.
Don't be discouraged, though -- although writing articles for Wikipedia is complicated, you're already well on your way. Iknowyourider (t c) 17:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Metric system.[edit]

I realize that most collaborators are probably from USA, and therefore are not used to the metric system. But even after living in the US for some years, I still think in meters and kilograms.
According to Wikipedia's own article, the metric system is very close to a worldwide standard.
My question is:
Would it be OK if I "translate" any measures given in Imperial system to Metric, and leave the Imperial value as secondary? I mean, change "20 inches" for "51 cm (20 inches)" ? I know it might not seem important, but I would like to help, and I don't have the knowledge or time to write a full article, or even make important / interesting additions.
Diego bf109 04:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

See WP:MOS#Units_of_measurement. --Sopoforic 04:54, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Firefox formatting issues[edit]

I noticed the formatting is messed up in Network layer on Firefox (and not on IE). The text runs into the five-layer TCP/IP model box. Any thoughts on how to fix it? Egret 07:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

It's really the CSS in the template that needs improvement, but I haven't got the energy, so I made a quick fix by repositioning it further down the page. You are welcome to do this sort of thing yourself. Adrian M. H. 10:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! Egret 04:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

i want to know nanning expo2007-oct 20 to 23 detial buillding and how many dement[edit]

I am than htun aung when i get invite letter very instery iwant to see expo building want to know jade bangle, bead carving how many deman .what are they interesting kind of jade attending 1person lower rate cost per day —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thanhtunaung (talkcontribs) 08:52, 11 August 2007

I have to reiterate what it says in the header: this page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. I think you may have intended to post this at a different website entirely. It's not really a Ref Desk question either, which is where we would normally send questions that do not relate to WP. Adrian M. H. 10:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Correct Way of doing External link/Reference[edit]

In making an External link/Reference is there a preferred "Wikipedia way" to refer to an article or source that is private, members only. For example, you have to be a member of AIME, specifically Society of Mining Engineers (SME), to retrieve an article from or through their website. I am about to reference an article on Construction Aggregate from the June 2007 Mining Engineering ( in the Construction Aggregate wiki. Mining Engineering would be available in major libraries.

Please reply on my talk page.Bmhtayl 19:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi! You may wish to take a look at Wikipedia:External Links because this says that some types of links should normally be avoided, including Links to sites that require payment or registration to view the relevant content. Sites that require registration or a paid subscription should be avoided because they are of limited use to most readers. Many online newspapers require registration to access some or all of their content, while some require a subscription. Online magazines frequently require subscriptions to access their sites or for premium content. If old newspaper and magazines articles are archived, there is usually a fee for accessing them. A site that requires registration or a subscription should not be linked unless the web site itself is the topic of the article. I hope this helps, :-) Stwalkerster talk 19:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, links to registration-only articles should generally be avoided in standard "further reading" types of External links in preference to material that is more accessible. BUT if you are using an article as a reference you should definitely be including all information to help find the reference: title, author, date, etc -- and in that case there is no real drawback to linking the title of the referenced piece to the site -- those who have access to the site can look it up there, and those who can't still have all the info they need to look it up at the library. — Catherine\talk 15:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


hi i am new in Wikipedia, my classmates and I just created an article about our University(UEES) as a class project. i put some pictures of the buildings and there is a little bit of information of each building at the beginning of the article. so i want to link the word: Building A, Building B, etc... with each picture that is on the bottom of the article! can someone please help me?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romina m (talkcontribs) 20:12, 11 August 2007

I had to check your contribs to find UEES. First of all, have a read of Wikipedia's naming conventions because the article will need to be renamed. There are other issues that I won't go into here for reasons of time, but they are important, so I might message you later. What you have at the bottom is an image gallery. See the images section of the Help menu (link on the left) for how to add captions, but you cannot add anchor links as far as I know. Adrian M. H. 21:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Convert account to another Wikipedia[edit]

I have created account in this Wikipedia. I want to use it in another Wikipedia. How can I do it?

Every Wikipedia is different; you need to register an account on the other Wikipedia as well. --Haemo 07:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Image Removed?[edit]

Hello. I have read the FAQ's and I still have not figured out what happened to an image on an article I wrote a couple weeks ago. (article: Buzz Fazio)I did not see it's removal on the deletion log. I do believe it was posted within the rules. I have reviewed my settings on my computer and yet it does not appear. Can you confirm for me whether or not it was removed by Wikipedia? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Information Outlet (talkcontribs) 16:09, 12 August 2007

If you did not act on the bot-generated notice on your talk page in good time, then the image was destined for deletion, which is what happened. It is essential (for reasons that I hope are obvious to anyone who adds images or any other material content to Wikipedia) that all images are appropriately licensed and described accordingly. if the image can meet the licensing requirements, just upload it again and make certain that it is correctly described. Adrian M. H. 16:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Rowland White[edit]

Dear Sir, I have in my possession a plaque named to Rowland Abert White. CWGC states he lost his life on 11/11/14 while serving on HMS Niger.There is an article on one of the pages that states there was no loss of life? Regards j.a. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:58, 12 August 2007

Which article is it? I'm not sure if a plaque really meets Verifiability, but you could be bold and improve the article. I would not change it myself, since I have no verification to support the change. Adrian M. H. 18:11, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The Controllers (band)[edit]

How do I edit or rewrite my article? I cannot find it. All I can find are your editors admonitions. Do you protect minority opinion at Wikipedia? Sincerely, DOA Dan G. Davis, M.A. of The Controllers(Punk77)

See WP:COI for why this is a bad idea --Lucid 22:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Help with Custom sig[edit]

I edit on Uncyclopedia, and when I came here, I made a custom sig. I tried to set it as my sig, but the code for the Preferences is different on the two Wikis. If you could set me straight on the code for setting a sig subpage as my sig would be greatly appreciated (I feel like such a noob for asking this)! --KRAPENHOEFFER! talk 03:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:SIGNATURE should be helpful to you. Lara♥Love 03:58, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank You. --KRAPENHOEFFER! talk 20:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


Have registered as Threshold Pilot on 12 August 2007. Have written an article (with no extra images) for Mathematics/Primes section. Have checked preview and attempted to upload. Not sure about Source and Destination Titles - used the article's title. Wikipedia response is 'File is empty'.

What's wrong, please?

Threshold Pilot —Preceding unsigned comment added by Threshold Pilot (talkcontribs) 10:02, 13 August 2007

Can you clarify this please? Articles are not uploaded as such, which makes wonder if you tried to upload a file. Your contribs show that you have not really done anything yet. Adrian M. H. 10:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
User has posted to my talk page and I have responded there. Adrian M. H. 13:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


Someone keeps vandalising my notable group link (Group Help Center) from the MSN Groups article. The person concerned is and I cannot find the warning templates to warn them to stop being a troll and because they have already exceeded the three reverts per day rule! Please can someone also revert the vandalism on the MSN Groups page to re-include my notable group (Group Help Center) as if I revert the article I will also break the three reverts per day rule, which I don't want to do. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

The link you added has been removed by a few different users because you did not show why your group is notable. This is especially important for an article like MSN Groups because it would very soon be swamped with hundreds of links to different groups if the article editors allowed it. There are also comments relating to this on your talk page - if it helps, you could read through WP:LINKS to understand why your link is considered be unsuitable. EyeSereneTALK 16:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

how do you post an article?[edit]

how do you post something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Dogrl123 (talkcontribs)

Hey there, and welcome to Wikipedia. You may want to take a look at the Getting Started list of topics to give yourself a start on editing here. To answer your question, this tip explains how to start a new article. Be sure to read the guidelines regarding verifiability and reliable sources before you do - to make sure that your article is both. And, you may want to do a search to ensure that the article doesn't exist. If it doesn't, take a look at the notability guidelines as well to see if the topic is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. I'll drop a welcome message on your user talk page in a moment so you have some handy links to work with. Also, please sign your posts with four tildes, like ~~~~ this. Welcome to Wikipedia! Tony Fox (arf!) 04:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

To Adrian M. H. (or whoever deals with this)[edit]

Thanks again. Apologies that I still haven't adequately grasped the plot re procedures. The basic question remains: How do I get my original and ready-to-upload article, which so far as I can tell doesn't infringe any rules, approved for uploading as a contribution to the mathematics/prime numbers section?

Please reply to My Talk page. Thanks in anticipation,

(Threshold Pilot)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Threshold Pilot (talkcontribs) 09:32, 14 August, 2007

I already responded on my talk page, but I have had no feedback from you. Adrian M. H. 16:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Responded on user talk page. EyeSereneTALK 16:43, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Alun Jones[edit]

Could you help me promote Alun Jones (an Australian tennis player) bursted out on the scene this year and has a respectable ranking of 129. This is considered high and notable and this ain reflected on the amount of info i wrote and others wrote (none). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrishello92 (talkcontribs) 11:14, 14 August 2007

Wikipedia is not here to promote people or subjects. If they are notable enough and the material can be verified with the required independent sources, then someone is likely to initiate an article. Notability is measured primarily by the quantity of non-trivial written treatments that a subject has received from the aforementioned independent sources and secondarily by their achievements in their field. I suggest that you post at Requested Articles with as much pertinent information as you can provide. Adrian M. H. 16:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Primary source usage?[edit]

I'm a bit confused about the rules on primary sources. If I have, for example, a series of original documents from Medieval Spain, one of which is a Visigothic code of laws that contain stringent regulations on non-Christian groups, can I cite that as evidence of the legal environment at the time? Or is that original research? Of course, I am analyzing the document to a certain extent, and I suppose, another more knowledgeable than I could say, 'oh, that document is famously known to be inaccurate,' or something like that, but it seems like the improvement to the article would be far greater than anything else. --Sammermpc 17:53, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Read the discussions at WT:V and WT:RS and it will become clearer. Adrian M. H. 12:27, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I think this is an intrinsically tricky issue. Of course, if you publish your analysis of this antique document in a scholarly journal, you could cite your own paper in your wiki article. Also, you can cite any document as a source. The problem is that antique and rare documents are not generally treated as direct sources, but more like evidence; it may be a forgery, a translation to any modern language from an extinct medieval poetical dialect may be inaccurate, and the context of the document may be lost or poorly understood (perhaps it was obvious at that time that the unicorn symbolizes Christ, the way it would be obvious today that the Twin Towers symbolize a disaster, while a hundred years from now a picture of them might be just two buildings). So your situation is in a gray area. I'd say that uploading an image of a page of this antique document would certainly be OK, but citing a translation of a passage as evidence of politics at the time would probably be taken as original research. But you could site a specific, e.g. "Isabella bestowed the duchy on the knight, cf ..." Good luck. Pete St.John 15:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Note that you can always look for other scholarship on the document too -- then you could say, "Document X from year Y says that non-Christians were not allowed to own yo-yos. Scholar Q, in his book J, said that this meant Christians had no sense of humor." And if necessary, add, "However, Scholar M disagrees, interpreting the restriction as an attempt to stifle dissent." You are merely citing someone else's interpretation of the documents, not trying to interpret them yourself. By the way, if you have access to the original documents, there might be a good home for them on Wikisource. — Catherine\talk 17:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Oops! Wrong page![edit]

I added a minor edit to "Pagliacci" in which I wrote the lyric of the song "Tears Of A Clown" by Smokey Robinson and The Miracles in which Smokey sings, "Just like Pagliacci did, I try to keep my sadness hid." I wanted to add it beneath the previous entry about "Tears Of A Clown", but it wound up in the media section, where you press to play bits of the opera. Can you please move it back to where it should be? Or tell me how to do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ida Knows (talkcontribs) 19:14, 15 August 2007

I've moved it to the trivia section, and merged it with the other entry, as there's a fair bit of overlap between the two lines. If you make a mistake editing, just press the "edit this page" tab, and fix up your mistake. Happy editing. Recurring dreams 11:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Recently edited pages[edit]

Where can I go to see pages that have been recently edited or created? I just want to do my part to cut down on vandalism to make Wikipedia a truly reliable source.

You can use Special:Recentchanges, but I'd actually recommend you have a look at the tools and tricks of the trade found at Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol -- Twinkle, VandalProof, Lupin's tool, and IRC come pretty well recommended. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) You can always look at Special:Recentchanges, but several edits are made to Wikipedia per second, so it isn't very useful. Usually, most users use some sort of tool to filter useful edits out; these are listed in more detail on the Cleaning up vandalism portal.
As for new pages, the volume is not as high, so you can monitor Special:Newpages too.
Overall, this process is called Recent changes patrol, and there are loads of info about the subject on the pages I linked before. Hope that helps, Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

New page deletion[edit]

I've recenty done up a Wiki page on Waluigi, but it keeps getting deleted!

Can you tell me why this keeps happening, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raz2b (talkcontribs) 08:36, 17 August 2007

This is reverted because the character does not warrant an article on himself. It has been redirected to the main article. The reason it doesnt warrant its own article is because the subject is not notable enough by himself, is not verifiable by reliable sources. Did that help? Also, it's helful if you sign your posts by typing ~~~~ at the end of what you wrote. Thanks! i said 08:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

writing about a company[edit]

Can write about a company that I work for/own? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seespeut (talkcontribs) 17:52, 17 August 2007

In simple terms, it is very inadvisable, particularly if you own or run the company in question. WP:COI is the guideline for which you are looking, and others that apply are WP:NPOV (a Five Pillars policy) and WP:CORP, aka Notability (companies and organisations). Adrian M. H. 18:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Robert St. John - Journalist/Author[edit]

I spent last night working on a new page and thought I followed the directions accurately to save it. But, when I search for it this morning I cannot find it. This is my first time doing this and I am not a very facile user. I'm sure there is a simple explanation for this and it is probably somewhere simple, but I just don't know enough to find it and work on it further. Can you help me? Also, as I'm not sure where to go to find your response, you can reach me at <e-mail removed per posting guidelines at top of page>. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by SSC06877 (talkcontribs) 12:30, 18 August 2007

Remember that searchable databases normally take a while to become updated; more so with Wikipedia's database. Check your contributions and you will find it. Adrian M. H. 12:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I see from your contribs that you edited the sandbox at Wikipedia:Introduction and placed the content in question there. I think the links on your talk page will be very useful before you make the serious step of creating an article. Adrian M. H. 12:55, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back to me. I did as you suggested and checked my contributions, but when I go to the Introduction page I don't find anything I wrote. I see items written by others, but nothing on Robert St. John. By the way, how long does it usually take for a searchable database to be updated?SSC06877 14:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
A few days or maybe weeks sometimes. The sandboxes are cleared out frequently, not to mention being subject to frequent and fairly indiscriminate editing by anyone and everyone. Check the diffs if you want to retrieve it (History tab...) but maybe keep it in a user sub-page while you bring it up to standard. Adrian M. H. 15:27, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Adrian, thanks for that. The problem continues to be that I cannot find what I wrote. I've clicked on everything in history I can find, the differences, etc. So I can't even put it in a sub-page (however I might wish to do so). I started by writing just a couple sentences and then saved that. But it appeared that I was doing it as an edit to another page. So I restarted and wrote several (3 maybe) full pages of text (I checked the title, it wasn't found, and followed the directions after "create a page?"). I appreciate your help so far, but do you know where these pages might be? I completed it at about 12:30 a.m. Sat morning if that helps. Thanks
It's easy. I found two diffs in the history with your user name beside them: this one and this one. If you have your preferences set to show 50 per screen, your diffs are on the second screen. If you want it in a sub-page, but don't know how, let me know. Adrian M. H. 16:00, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

IP--->Username :?:[edit]

Hi! I was edited some articles before i registered and
those editions are marked with my IP address.
Now i have a user account and i wish to replace those
IP numbers with my nick, to show that i was who made
those changes.

Is it possible? If yes then how?
Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaa3-other (talkcontribs) 15:14, 18 August 2007

No, that is not possible (neither technically nor in GFDL terms). Adrian M. H. 15:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
If you want people just to know, link to your IP address on your user page and say "this was me". --Haemo 06:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I go back and capitalize the title of the article I submitted?[edit]

How do I go back and capitalize the title of the article I submitted?

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirmorley (talkcontribs) 18:00, 18 August 2007

Go to the article, and click on the [move] tab, next to the history tab. This will allow you to move it to a new title. Do not cut and paste to a new title, as that does not move the history. If you cannot do it because your account is too new (<5 days) send me a note and I shall do it for you. i said 18:05, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Sources, infringement and other matters[edit]

Hi, I've run into some perplexing issues. As an author and show biz historian, I'm finding a lot of Wikipedia content that derives from my books. The Spike Jones entry for example had considerable content of this nature, without attribution (though someone kindly added my book as a resource before I jumped in). After making a number of edits and posting on the talk page that my book was the major source of my info, I was gently warned that I ran the risk of COI and advised to cite other sources. Problem is, my book is the primary source for almost everything published on Jones since it first appeared in '84, from All Music Guide articles to CD liner notes. It's been suggested in this forum that someone could write an article and then cite it as a source--so is this kosher or not? I don't want it to look like I'm promoting my book, but I don't wish to be taken advantage of either.

The Red Ingle entry is largely a thin paraphrase of an All Music Guide article it cites/links to--99% of AMG's info derives from my book, and it infringes on my copyright with a lengthy quote--picked up by Wikipedia. The Jack Benny entry also infringes on my copyright with a lengthy quote from one of my books; it's attributed but used without permission. These instances seem to violate Wikipedia's policies. I haven't decided what to do about them yet, but "there'll be some changes made," as the song says. Thanks for any advice you can give.Jordan R. Young 06:12, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. If you see unsourced material which has been copied from your book basically verbatim, please be bold and remove or re-word it. If you can't do this, or otherwise, we have formal channels which you can do to get someone in authority to fix it. --Haemo 06:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Nothing to add directly to your prediciment (Haemo has done a fine job), though thank you for approaching the problem in a very WP:CIVIL way - you have every right to be concerned. Other than that, I think resolving copyright infringement is somewhat more important than a conflict of interest - which may be more important in, say, someone editing an article about themselves or voting against the deletion of an article which they created. You will spot copyvios of your own work quicker than others can. I also believe that it may be possible for administrators to clear the history - so that, having been removed from the article, it will no longer be visible in the history.martianlostinspace email me 13:09, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Oversight only removes copyvios at the request of the foundation. Adrian M. H. 13:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

battles in the mexican american war[edit]

a few days after the Mexican American war ended many people from the American army went to south Mexico to the state of yucatan to fight for the white Mexicans against the Indian Mexicans in the guerra de castas. and the American soldiers lost all the combats. you need to put the info in the Mexican American war battles. thanks and see you soon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 19:10:48, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

Find a reliable source with which you can verify this with citations and you can be bold and edit it yourself. Without verification, it would count as original research and would not be accepted. Adrian M. H. 20:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Move my article to post[edit]

On my article, I see no move button for submission. Many of your editors are childhood friends/enemies. Please be aware of that fact. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 23:40:39, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

First of all, it is not your article, and second of all, you have to log in to move articles. –Animum 23:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Deleting an article[edit]

How can I delete a page I created?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rach703 (talkcontribs) 13:34, August 20, 2007 (UTC).

As a general rule, you don't; see the above link to WP:OWN (and WP:ADMIN) for why. If no one else has contributed to it, you may request deletion (it may not be accepted) with {{db-author}}. User space pages can be treated with {{db-userreq}}. Adrian M. H. 16:29, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


1. I created an article but it is on my username page. If I move it will that keep it from possibly getting deleted? My username page was deleted because of insufficient notability. My subject is referenced in at least six other articles for musicians she collaborated with, she is an R&B singer. (search Ledisi)

2. How can I prevent someone from editing the contents of my page? I know there are levels of protection, but how to I get full or semi? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LeddyLover (talkcontribs) 18:10, August 20, 2007 (UTC).

The content on your userpage should not actually be deleted, because it's not yet part of the main wikipedia. To create a page entitled "Ledisi" click on this red link, copy and paste your content, and then save the page. Recurring dreams 08:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
And to answer point #2; you don't. Please remember that you do not own any content that you create and the use of protection is applied judiciously in cases of persistent vandalism or serious edit wars, given that the "anyone can edit" philosophy is a principal tenet set by the Foundation. See also: Userpage guidelines and Deletion policy. Adrian M. H. 10:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

New article[edit]

Forgive me for a question that must have been asked previously, but how do I 'upload' or publish the page I've created? I find Wikipedia easy to use but hard to contribute towards. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Father Stuart (talkcontribs).

Not sure what your question is. If you wish to create a new page that you have written elsewhere (in a text editor, say), see Starting a new page and Your first article. If it isn't, say, showing up in a search, then wait a while. It takes time for the server to cache new articles. x42bn6 Talk Mess 11:30, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Creating Talk page[edit]

I wish to create a Talk page but it's got one of these WP Biography templates at the top. I got to a "Editing Talk:Red Ingle/Comments" page where I could type in a box, but that's NOT the same as a "Editing Talk:Red Ingle" page, is it? I'm confused by the help pages I've read. Thanks. Jordan R. Young 07:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Are you referring to Talk:Red Ingle that page? If so, the page is already created. Discuss whatever you need to there. You can edit the page as a whole, or click the + tab to add a new section. i said 07:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia practising browser discrimination.[edit]

Why can I edit through Firefox, but not OperaTor? Both browsers are installed on the same computer. Firefox is a good browser, but, according to reviews and my own experience, OperaTor is the most secure browser available for Windows. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 12:06, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia do not practise browser discrimination. Wikipedia however do ban editing using open proxies such as Tor. KTC 14:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

need help...********publishing a glossary*****[edit]

I would like to get more information or if someone can hep direct me to the right path on publishing a long list of terms.

Basically my company along with other high-tech companies would like to publish a massive list of terms relating to B2B (Business 2 Business) technlogy standards that we already maintain.

Do you know how we would go about starting this? Is there any cost or things we need to follow?

Any guidance would be much appreciated

Thank you cscokaren —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cscokaren (talkcontribs) 14:38, 22 August 2007

The above editor contacted me about this and I replied at my talk page. Adrian M. H. 16:37, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

describing word[edit]

What word would you use to describe a person that speaks in a tone that puts you on the defense? it's not a loud tone it's just.......

i need the word to describe this persons behavior not just tone.

thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ck8280 (talkcontribs) 19:57, 22 August 2007

You may want to ask at the Wikipedia: Reference Desk. This page is for asking questions about Wikipedia. Natalie 19:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Recovery of deleted work[edit]

I submitted a page today that was deleted (Kall8). I'd like to adjust the entry to make it comply with your guidelines, but now that it is deleted I cannot edit it. How can I get the copy I submitted? --Wickersheim 22:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

This is why you should always work on articles either offline (Notepad) or in a user sub-page. I'm a quick article writer, but even I would take a few hours to get a half-decent article up together. Some admins are – depending on the circumstances – willing to userfy or e-mail deleted content if you ask nicely and give a good reason. But if really was well below par (ie, speedied), it may not be possible to bring it up to the requisite standard. Adrian M. H. 22:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

VDU process[edit]

Video Display Units (Monitor and controller) Tip: If you do not have good documentation on your VDU, try to look at the sticker GNU/Linux pre−installation checklist 2.6. Floppy drives 7 Page 10 (nameplate) on the back of your VDU, you may find the answers to some of the questions given below. 1. What kind of monitor do you have [Monochrome, Color] [EGA, VGA, CGA ..] ? What make ? 2. Size of screen [14", 15", 19"] ? Is it an interlaced monitor ? 3. What are the resolutions, and number of colors possible on this monitor [600x480, 800x600, 1024x768]? 4. What is your monitor's vertical refresh rate / vertical sync. frequency (could be a range)? 5. What is your monitor's horizontal refresh rate / horizontal sync. frequency (could be a range) ? 6. Monitor's bandwidth ? 7. Video RAM size ? 8. VDU Control card : make and model ? 9. Chip set used in VDU control card ? 10. What RAMDAC do you have ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shravangangula (talkcontribs) 09:20, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I need to post a picture from a different language version of wiki to the english language version[edit]

.....and it doesn't appear. What do I need to do to the image markup?

Image in question

Code, I've used (see box below:

Exarcheia at the second half of the 19th Century.

What am I doing wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alefbetac (talkcontribs) 10:51, 23 August 2007

Uh, you need to upload it to Commons. The language versions of Wikipedia cannot share images directly. Adrian M. H. 22:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
    • ^ Hilton-Barber, B. & Berger, L.R. (2004). Exploring Kruger. Prime Origins Publishing. ISBN 0-620-31866-x. 
    • ^ Hilton-Barber, B. & Berger, L.R. (2004). Exploring Kruger. Prime Origins Publishing. ISBN 0-620-31866-x.