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Duplicate article[edit]

Found duplicate articles, F.B.Area (Gulberg Town), Karachi and Federal B. Area. They need to be merged and named 'Federal B Area' with a 'F B Area' redirect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.88.165.192 (talk) 20:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I've come across 2 essentially identical articles, Totalai and the newer Totalai Tehsil. The latter was created recently by Wisalahmad523 with the notation correct a huge mistake in a name of tehsil. I'm posting here to check which version of the article name is preferred; I do note that most articles omit "Tehsil". If the longer name is preferred in this case, a history merge will be required due to the content being copied from the other article. Thanks! CrowCaw 22:28, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

After checking a few articles, it does seem that none of them use the "Tehsil" suffix in the title, and so the original title can be used. However, there is another issue: the templates, and the two articles, are not consistent about whether it is a "tehsil" or a "union council," which as I understand are two different levels of organization. Is there any clarity on which this actually is? Vanamonde (talk) 04:15, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
I expect there has been lots of reorganization over the years and what was once a tehsil might now be a union council or vice versa. YBG (talk) 06:51, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
A tehsil is a subdivision of a district (which itself is a subdivision of a province), and usually districts and tehsils are named after the city or town they contain. For example, the city of Jacobabad is located inside Jacobabad Tehsil which itself is a division of Jacobabad District. Union councils come in later in the tier system (so Jacobabad for example would be divided into further union councils). So the two articles above are likely to be seperate, where Totalai is part of the Totalai Tehsil. Mar4d (talk) 09:56, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Agree with Mar4d. It is a good idea to use "Tehsil" and "District" suffixes in all cases so that we have a uniform naming convention. The corresponding towns of course need have no such suffix. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:33, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Article deletion nominations[edit]

The articles India and state-sponsored terrorism and 2016 Indian military raid in Pakistan-administered Kashmir have been nominated for deletion. Please take a look. Thanks. Filpro (talk) 16:52, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

List of senators in the 14th Parliament of Pakistan[edit]

I am hoping to get this as featured list but it is not ready yet. The lead needs to be well-written. Anyone willing to work on it? --Saqib (talk) 16:26, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Federal ministers[edit]

Lately, I have been working on fixing the issues with the biography pages of Federal Ministers of Pakistan. Out of 21 pages, most of the pages were poorly sourced and very promotional. So it took me a while to fix them all up and since now the pages have been cleaned-up to meet the WP guidelines, I request volunteers to keep an eye on them and remove any sort of vandalism and unsourced or objectionable text added to pages which could possibly put article's quality at stake, again. I believe the pages of current cabinet members are important and should be neccessary to keep them clean and properly sourced. --Saqib (talk) 09:54, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Dandot RS[edit]

Please verify. What is RS?Xx236 (talk) 06:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

My first thought was WP:RS, but of course not!! On further thought, maybe it is Railway Station. Probably should be merged with Dandot railway station. YBG (talk) 08:15, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
Or maybe not. Dandot RS claims to be in Jhelum District, Punjab, but Dandot railway station claims to be in Sindh. YBG (talk) 08:18, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
And then there is Dandot claiming to be in Chakwal District, Punjab. YBG (talk) 08:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
There is a railway station in Dandot town, Jhelum as well so I assume the title referring to Dandot Railway Station. --Saqib (talk) 06:56, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Niaz Mohammad Khan[edit]

Can someone please add the Urdu script for Niaz Mohammad Khan, and please add sources if you can find them in any language. Does the article exist in Urdu? Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:04, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to Women in Red's special November activities[edit]

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November 2016

Announcing two exiting online editathons
Women in Food and Drink and Women Writers
as well as our strong support for articles on women in connection with
Wikipedia Asian Month
Faciliated by Women in Red

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--Ipigott (talk) 11:11, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

(To subscribe, Women in Red/Invite list. Unsubscribe, Women in Red/Opt-out list)

MQM Pakistan or MQM[edit]

Hi all, we need community opinion what to name the MQM related pages. --Saqib (talk) 07:55, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Various Punjabi dialects[edit]

Many of the articles on Western Punjabi dialects include lists of words in the given dialect. The trouble is that these are unsourced, the entries have sometimes been modified by various anonymous users, and these articles have generally been subjected to quite a bit of sockery and POV-pushing. I think the wordlists are unreliable and I'm planning to remove them all, but it would be nice if someone could have a look and let me know in case I'm wrong. There are such wordlists for example at Thalochi dialect, Jhangvi dialect and Multani dialect. – Uanfala (talk) 17:34, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

  • Update: I've removed the tables, and the links above go to the old article versions that had them. – Uanfala (talk) 11:09, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

BBC Wikipedia collaboration Edit-a-thon in Islamabad[edit]

BBC will be organsining Wikipedia Edit-a-thon (part of BBC annual BBC 100 Women Series) in Islamabad on December 8th. Editors in and around Islamabad willing to attend the event kindly contact Ahmen Khawaja (Ahmen.Khawaja@bbc.co.uk) --Saqib (talk) 12:04, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

@ Saqib I have created a Meetup page for the event. Will update as further details are shared. --SMS Talk 13:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

The Scholars Science College[edit]

Please develop or delete.Xx236 (talk) 13:11, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

I have redirected it to Wah Cantonment#Education for now. --SMS Talk 13:55, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Geography stub templates[edit]

Greetings! As Category:Khyber Pakhtunkhwa geography stubs has become very large, WikiProject Stub sorting has created upmerged stub templates for areas within Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, with sub-categories to be created as needed. Anyone wishing to sort stubs concerned with the geography of this region, please, have at it! Her Pegship (talk) 19:09, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Full protection requested for "Template:Overseas Pakistani"[edit]

@182.189.225.179: The Pakistani IPs don't seem to be getting the message. I got this message from an IP user criticizing me for correctly pointing out what "Indo-Canadian" means, accusing me of "vandalism". He removed the Toronto/Vancouver pages *despite* the fact I had them renamed to "South Asian" ameliorate this.

I think it's time to do full protection.

I also edited the lead of Indo-Canadian to make it clear that A. the term *also* includes other South Asians and B. when Statistics Canada differentiates specifically post-partition India it uses "East Indian" and not "Indo-Canadian" as the differentiating word. (although in reality that too gets mixed up with the other words) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:10, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Cannabis in Pakistan needs improvement[edit]

We have a new article Cannabis in Pakistan, but it could really use improvement and expansion, especially from anyone who can read Urdu sources. With a little polishing, it'd also be really useful to make a translated version for Urdu Wikipedia since it's a topic of increasing interesting these days. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 03:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Saraiki dialect -> Saraiki language[edit]

There is a move discussion at Talk:Saraiki dialect, where you're welcome to participate. Thanks! – Uanfala (talk) 02:51, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Chaaval / Chawal at RFD[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_December_22#Chaaval. It could use some input from someone fluent in Hindi/Urdu and who perhaps better understands the context of the word. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:47, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the Nishan-e-Pakistan has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Recipients of the Nishan-e-Pakistan, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.RevelationDirect (talk) 03:59, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Dera Ghazi Khan cleanup[edit]

I've put in some work on Dera Ghazi Khan, partly copyediting for grammar and clarity, and partly factual correction. But if the article is improved enough to be kept, it will really need attention from someone more familiar with Pakistan. Please see Talk:Dera Ghazi Khan § Cleanup, January 2017.

Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 05:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Adal Soomro[edit]

Came across Adal Soomro, which had been prodded. It seems like he is quite notable as a poet, and also passes WP:PROF for the distinguished chair he held. Unfortunately, I'm not able to access/read most of the sources about him. I've added a little bit and deprodded but it could still use a bit of work if anyone is so inclined... — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:56, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Duplicate articles[edit]

Found duplicate articles, F.B.Area (Gulberg Town), Karachi and Federal B. Area. They need to be merged and renamed 'Federal B Area' with a 'F B Area' redirect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfarazbaig (talkcontribs) 00:04, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Pakistan needs major restructuring[edit]

After having compared Pakistan with United States, India and China articles, I have come to the following conclusion.

i. 'Economy' sub-section needs to be given its own Section (move it out of 'Infrastructure').

ii. 'Geography, environment and climate' section should be listed right after 'History' and above 'Government and politics'.

iii. 'Urbanisation' sub-section needs to be moved and listed under 'Demographics' section.

iv. 'Military' sub-section needs to be given its own Section (move it out of 'Government and politics').

v. 'Science and technology' sub-section can have its own Section (move it out of 'Infrastructure').

Consensus is sought for the necessary changes (which obviously should be carried out by senior Wikipedians), after which this article needs to be nominated for Good Article status.

P.S. Each recommended point should be debated separately so that the ones with consensus can be implemented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfarazbaig (talkcontribs) 00:10, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

At first glance, these sound like fine ideas. The discussion should take place on the article's talk page at Talk:Pakistan § Major Restructuring Needed. YBG (talk) 00:15, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
You are right. That's why I initially posted it there about a week ago but received no response. Mfarazbaig —Preceding undated comment added 19:01, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Calenders[edit]

I've got some Wiki Loves Earth 2017 calendars and post cards to distribute. If anyone would like to have some, send me an e-mail with your postal address. --Saqib (talk) 14:01, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Kot_Adu[edit]

Greetings, I have no domain knowledge on the general topic of Pakistan however I noticed the Kot_Adu article has recently had about 12K worth of text added, with no sources provided for the new text. The text needs copy editing for grammar, and some aspects of the writing sound very non-encyclopedic. Before I take a run at cleaning it up, I wanted to reach out here and see if someone with more expertise on Pakistan could check it out and groom this article a bit. There may be some good content in the new edit however, you may be better equipped with proper RS's to validate whether the content is good or not. I'll watch this page so if someone wants to take it on, please let me know. Otherwise I'll try to circle back to it. My aim here is just to keep the article clean so that any non-sensical content doesn't detract from what may be meaningful and actually verifiable. Cheers and thanks! Curdigirl (talk) 07:32, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

@Curdigirl: Merge it with Kot Addu City. --Saqib (talk) 08:02, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Perfect! Yep, found that duplicate moments after reaching out here. Thanks, @@Saqib:! Curdigirl (talk) 08:05, 24 February 2017 (UTC)Curdigirl (talk) 08:06, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Map of Punjab region[edit]

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There is a discussion about the accuracy of this map of Punjab at Talk:Punjab (region)#Amritpal Singh Mann.27s map. Please feel free to contribute. utcursch | talk 12:52, 14 March 2017 (UTC)